That's exactly what I've always thought. I'm so behind on culture stuff, I've never even seen facetune before. And now I'm beginning to feel better with that fact.
But the majority of people who use facetune do it because they have a mass amount of followers who won't see them in real life and if they do most people will not be able to compare on the spot or will view it as good lighting and posing. While yes, you can get a bomb ass picture with a solid pose and a ring light it only goes so far.
@@samikay9599 I don't know how that could be true. The population of influencers is much smaller than compared to regular people. What, there's probably 100's to maybe into the 1,000's of influencers. There are 100s of millions of people in the U.S. alone. Then you consider the entire world. You really think that out of billions of average non-influencers people on the planet, there are fewer than a couple thousand using face tune in a regular? Because that's the only way your statement could be true. I think face tune is simply a tool that all types of people use to a great degree, influencers are included in that number, not leading the number. Which is the problem being addressed in this video. Everyday photos/selfies being altered like every image is going to be on a magazine cover, then people come to rely on those retouches, and then their insecurity grows deeper.
@@asideofaioli4630 there is way more than that in the way of influencers. If you are thinking of the big ones maybe but every person how has a couple of 100 thousand followers are influencers. Even people like me who posts mostly art is considered a influencer because my art page has 250k.
@@samikay9599 Not really. And I get what you're saying, but I think you greatly overestimate influencer numbers and greatly underestimate the amount of average people using face tune. *To influence really just means to have an effect on someone.* So we're all technically influencers. But in today's terms,an Influencer is a position- someone who possesses marketable or social power; and not just over a few, but to be an influencer the numbers must be there in more ways than 1. They must have a distinctive audience,who also has some form of loyalty to the influencer (whether that be following, lurking, copying, listening to, buying recommended products/services, etc). And simply having followers isn't enough. That audience must be generally consistent in consuming your output (I "follow" lots of people's pages, but I'm not going back each week, or month. So I would not be a consistent follower, nor do they have much of an effect on my buying, ideas or decisions. Rather, I saw something I liked and essentially saved the page, or channel). If everyone is an "influencer," then no one is. Sort of like, if everyone is special, no one is. Very few slots are filled with people that have true influencer power. I'm not saying one needs to be a James Charles. Someone can have lower subscribers than you, but they possess more views and more power over that smaller group of people and/or more power on aspects in society. So subscribers alone aren't a determinant. Otherwise, that channel of the guy demonstrating diagnostic help for computers and phones is an influencer, because he has a nice follower count. But he isn't. Because he lacks power and significant marketable influence. But yeah, at the end of the day, we might just have to agree to disagree. This particular convo chain isn't all that important anyway. I hope you have a great week 😊
People always complain that “oh middle schoolers don’t have weird phases anymore, they grow up too fast” but when a kid does have that phase they’re put in cringe comps and made fun of
Ok so this is just my opinion and I think middle schoolers still have wierd phrases and quite a lot of insecurities and people complaining doesn’t make it any better
The reason a lot of young girls wear makeup is because they feel like they need to look good or else they will be made fun of by older people (funny enough, those people are usually the same that claim that they shouldn't wear so much makeup at such a young age)
omg can you please talk about how teens are not allowed to have that 'awkward phase' anymore? like 14 year olds now (especially with social media) try to look like they're 18 or 20? I mean look at let's say, ashley tisdale at age 13 or 14 vs how millie bobby brown who's now 13-14 looks, she looks like a grown up (and she looks very nice because she has stylists that manage it all, but she sets the standard very high for young people. Teens now are not allowed to be teens anymore, it seems like they jump from being kids to looking 20.
@@tiffanyferg aaaaand they wear like full faces of makeup now?? like all me and my friends wore at 14-15 to PARTIES was eyeliner, mascara and lipstick??!! i remember this video from like two years ago and it was like 'middle school makeup' where a 14 or 15 (i think??) year old helped her friend that was probs like 12 to go makeup shopping and she LEGIT made her buy a lot of stuff like foundation, concealer and a lot of other things a 12 year old doesnt really need??? idk im not really sure if girls should start wearing that much makeup at that age
@@tiffanyferg th-cam.com/video/Euxyso_eMi4/w-d-xo.html here's the video lol im sorry if im too annoying with this topic and im not shaming the girls because they seem like they are having fun but it really does concern me the fact that tweens and teens arent allowed to act their age anymore?? ok bye
I feel like a lot of it has to do with how much we sexualize youth. A lot of times TV shows that focus on high schoolers are played by adult actors because they want the characters to still have some sex appeal, and casting adults is the only way they can do that.
I remove my acne scars and give myself a nice skin, but I only feel ugly afterwards because I then realize what I could've looked like without bad skin. It's just damaging and self-destructive behavior tbh.
anityy Have you ever heard of shell of mother-of-pearl? It removed my acne scars in about a week (it may vary depending on how long you’ve had them, just like with stretch marks) But I would really recommend you give it a try!
I feel like snapchat "pretty" filters are just as much of a problem, it's upsetting to me to see myself made 'prettier' by smoothing my skin and widening my eyes and narrowing my face, making my nose smaller, etc. I hope that in the uocoming years we more embrace imperfections in our bodies, not being afraid to show acne, scars, cellulite, uneven skin tone and natural body types in a more mainstream way.
I get freaked out by them. Even the animal ears ones have this weird distortion effect that makes me look.... not right (not counting the actual animal ears.） Also, why does it put makeup on me?!!
Atleast those a re super obvious though. Like you know people only look that ay because eof the filters. With factune an dohtoshop you start thinking that's the way people look
As a professional photographer, I flat refuse to remove anything in a picture that isn't a pimple or a temporary blemish. I will not ever change the way a body looks.
But... but... I'm gonna diet! And exercise! In six months I WILL look like that! And if all else fails, I'll get plastic surgery! I just want my photos to match the way I intend to look!
The dog filter never used to have the makeup included. It was just simple ears, nose, tongue and smoothing a little skin. Idk why they ruined it and the fake lenses just make my eyes look weird.
I always find the worst/most patronizing issue with heavily Facetuned and edited influencers being when they turn around and say “life isn’t perfect! I’m not perfect! Don’t believe everything on instagram!” And yet, they are the ones perpetuating it and turning it around on the viewer to feel guilt and responsible.
B A P T I S M because its mixed messages, should you be against it or not, are you supposed to believe what you see or not. Then you feel guilty for not knowing like you should know. They make you feel bad for feeling bad when you see face tuned pictures.
Yes!!!! Say it louder for those in the back! If they just posted their photos how they naturally look, imperfections and all, places like Instagram would be a lot more bearable!
Glad your listening and it helps! I am 32 and remember my times of different type of online drama. How possesed a huge mass of people are under instagram was highly unexpected and disturbing. I remember the world prior to instagram and post. There is a reason why I never created an account
People don't believe me when I say I don't have an Instagram since I have a channel but I just can't do it, being on it for five minutes has me looking in the mirror different. It's crazy
Ugh forreal I’ve had Instagram since maybe 2014 but I’d use it to keep in contact with my friends and just post like pictures of weather or some shit lmao, it was used so differently back then, and now I’ve just stopped using it altogether, because now it’s only used for showing off your body, idk maybe sometimes I’ll go on insta just to like my friends pictures and keep in contact with long decent friendships but I only post like once a year because it’s just such a toxic platform. I’m 15 and I see girls my age and younger showing off their body and there’s no problem with it, like, they can do whatever they want, but they only do it for the likes and it’s worse when the pictures clearly photoshopped. Idk makes me feel pressured about my image and even the amount of likes I might get on a picture. uGh it’s so stupid. 🙅🏻♀️
Lorraine Gold girl, same here! I’ve never had an Insta, I know myself and I know that seeing all these girls on there would be incredibly detrimental to my mental health. I’ve already had a lot of problems with body confidence, so I’ve decided to be kind to myself and not put that kind of stuff in my head.
To be honest: I don't really understand that. You only see things of people you follow and you don't have to follow these "fake perfect" people. Most people I follow only post books or dogs. You can definitely be on Instagram and not see these toxic things.
I feel that... I love makeup and I always feel like my makeup is great and I love it. Then I go on Instagram and feel like I'm doing everything all wrong and that I can never look like others on the gram. It's annoying! Having confidence on there is hard af
I feel like having an online persona (a digital self) is becoming more and more like owning an IMVU or second life avatar. You modify and transform your digital self into a perfect version of your real life self, and you use this fake self to represent you online. For me, this is pretty similar to having a fake avatar on one of those life simulation online!
i agree but i also think that comparison just goes to show how unattainable these images are, which people naturally compare themselves to without the understanding that it is an 'avatar'
tiffanyferg Well I’m not mad about that because that’s the best House BUT the way you make all that research about these topics and are so curious and get lost in your own thoughts and shit really reminded me of Ravenclaw. My bad 💛🖤💛
you say that like it's a bad thing. Ravenclaw everyday!! And yes I am actually Ravenclaw, and no not because my name is Raven (also yes, that is my legal parent-given name)
I find it really strange that people separate Facetune from Photoshop, as though Facetune is less harmful..."Photoshop" is just the name of a photo editing program -- Facetune is a photo editing app. They're doing the exact same thing, but Facetune provides a more direct-to-consumer product specifically to distort ("enhance") portrait photography. If anything, Facetune is more problematic than Photoshop because is so user-friendly and doesn't require any sort of learning curve, so users are seeing the direct change between their real self and their "beautified" self, which absolutely exacerbates body dysmorphia compared to seeing models/celebrities who are shot and edited professionally.
Photoshop is just for professionals (or like, people with more money lol bc that shit is expensive) and has like 1000 other things it's used for. Especially in advertising etc. Facetune was literally only created to tune your face, like the name says, wasn't it? Of course people could still do the workaround of sending their selfie to a computer, opening Photoshop on it, doing the exact same thing to their body, and uploading the result on their phone again, but that's so many more steps you don't need when you have Facetune … sadly! It's way too easy to use it seems (I wouldn't know bc I don't use it) (Idk if this gets through but I agree with you! I hope it doesn't sound like I don't … I just want others to understand haha)
I think it’s boring tbh. Everyone trying so hard to look perfect for “the sake of art” as James Charles says is immature. I much rather see people with all shapes and sizes skin tones, “imperfections”. It makes us human an unique!
Agreed. I used to edit my photos to oblivion. I still do edit them - male colours pop more etc and I always whiten up my teeth and white of my eyes cos they a little yellow lol but I’m a smoker and on heavy meds and my teeth and eyes look like shit. But I used to smooth out everything and now I’m like fucking whatever I’m a mum of two, i look tired, whatever. I’ve never edited my body though I wouldn’t know how although I would smooth out my legs sometimes blur my scars and stuff and im over that now lol i have scars and imperfections and stretch marks and I’ve battled an eating disorder for ten years and I’m DONE trying to look ‘perfect’. I’ve got rid of so many people I followed on IG and replaced them with body positive perfectly imperfect people and ACTUAL art. It makes my feed way nicer and I feel better going on there now.
@@justme3846 nobody claimed that he was facetuning it on. the issue comes with decreasing texture, harshness, blurring the skin etc which is does do...sis
@@justme3846 but that wasn't your point lol that was my point.You just said it doesn't make him less of a makeup artists but it kinda does if he's not showing the true product
Sv Vr also the fact that he gets nervous when the lighting isn’t good. Like damn, people are being subjected to always having to be in perfect lighting because THEY will notice the imperfections on them that most people won’t notice.
he says he likes that, it's the style he is going for, if he didn't liked he wouldn't even do it, please watch his videos where he talks about facetuning. plus he even facetuned his viewers in a video, as the style he goes for. IS NOT ABOUT LOOKING "NATURAL". YOU CAN DU THE F YOU WANT JUST LIKE MAKEUP
@@pedofragilistico4837 that's not the point. He said he even edits his hair line because he doesnt like it. Also changes his face shape. This is when you go too far with facetune. Its not just smoothing ur face or whatever, if you have to change ur bone structure in every photo you've got a problem
I'm slowly quitting almost all social media to protect my health Edit: I love the positive vibes here :D I deleted my Twitter, Goodreads, Instagram, Snapchat, Pinterest and LinkedIn. I only use Facebook to contact distant family now. And only go on Tumblr to talk with some friends. I'm pretty happy with the direction I'm going.
Yes!! I did this for my mental health, and it has been incredible. I’m glad you’re taking that step too. I keep TH-cam and Reddit because the only things I see are the things that I seek out. Social media is seriously wrecking certain aspects of society.. I do think you’ll enjoy being a little less “plugged in” :)
@@jazminevaughan3177 thank you and everyone for the very supportive commends 😊 i wasn't born in the midst of social media and thus never really understood instagram and snapchat etc. I hardly use most of my accounts and only to update life events or to talk to distant relatives. I want to delete snapchat bc I dislike it but taking that step is a bit scary because everyone I know uses it and I don't want to isolate myself. I want to say goodbye to my Goodreads account too because it's one of those things were you just constantly compare your reading to others.
I deleted my Instagram a week ago. It is so toxic and detrimental for our mental health. I worry about the children growing up with this being the norm, and I am so worried for my own daughter and what reality will be like when she is older. So scary.
I deleted in December because the holiday season had people posting so much and so happy and perfect and that made me extremely uncomfortable and a little sad. Deleting the app was the best decision I've ever made. (twitter too, people are extremely toxic there)
i think another big thing about gen z’s relationship with social media is they never really got the chance to just look like kids, everything now has to be seen as perfect or on trend that it almost seems like they wouldn’t post a cringy picture just for the fun of it. they have an even more unrealistic standard of beauty (18-20years old) when they’re 12
I'm apart of gen Z, I'm 15 1/2, and yeah the examples we have are sooo toxic. Especially Instagram. But trust me I had my awkward middle school phase... Now I'm just going through that awkward Highschool phase
París Arts its true, you can surround yourself with other people that dont necessarily follow the norm but its so much harder to escape from those beauty standards imposed by society, and if you think about it kids dont necessarily have to be “”pretty”” (by beauty standards i mean), kids are just supposed to be kids that do and dress however they like bc that brings them happiness! not bc they are pressured by their peers to look like a template that society made
I think the people who are trying to normalize this don’t realize how hypocritical it really is. You can’t say everyone’s beautiful how they are, no matter the shape, color, size, etc... but then turn around and change major aspects of themselves via facetune. It’s putting a message out there that how they themselves are isn’t good enough, so why would you trust them when they say you’re enough? Furthermore, it’s negatively reinforcing a new cultural norm that, as you said, isn’t attainable. If everyone is photoshopping their waists, but VERY few people actually have those waists, it’s like we’re creating a false sense of perfection to idolize that really doesn’t even exist outside of social media. Ah I could rant forever but loved this vid!!
Melody Schnapp i think a lot of people say 'everyone is beautiful' over and over to try and convince themselves they are but deep down they know they don't fit the standard of beauty that is currently in place and feel the need they have to change to do that. I always sit there and tell myself 'beauty is subjective' and somedays im okay, i think yeah i look real good, but other days i will go through Instagram and know that a lot of people won't find me attractive because i dont look like kylie jenner, or sommer ray or whoever i think its hard trying to convince yourself you are beautiful when you have no evidence, which then turns you to social media looking for validation starting the cycle all over again. I know ive definitely become more insecure over the years than when i was younger which is strange because you are supposed to be most insecure when you are a young teen, but the more i use Instagram to catch up with people who went away to uni the more i see my own self love disappear
Rowankeenanx3 you make such a great point! It’s interesting how a lot of cosmetically enhanced individuals are beginning to all look alike. When I used to have Instagram (I deleted it several years ago when I began my neuropsychology program. I realized how poorly it affected my mental well-being) it was so strange to see so many girls looking alike. I feel like hearing “everyone is beAutiful” is a cop out, because we’re no longer celebrating our unique differences... we’re striving for one checklist of beauty that most girls don’t have without procedures or facetune. It’s creating an unhealthy image of perfection. I totally relate to what you said about some days feeling great and other days feeling low. Social media is so powerful and because of its consuming nature, it feels more important than it actually is. I hope you’re feeling beautiful today!!
@Nikoab me too. Just for pimples and use good angles. But I love good makeup so I rarely need to even for pimples. I'm aging so I don't like to retouch pictures. other wise in person I just look older, and more tired.
Yes! I actually kind of experienced this with a former friend irl and it honestly was so shocking and weird. My friend showed me a picture of this former friend that was unedited because she took it on her phone. The former friend posted her own edited version of this photo on her FB, and she had made herself look 30-40lbs lighter easily. Like... ??? Why. I don't get the point. Like we SEE YOU in real life how you REALLY are, you aren't fooling anyone.
The only thing I’ll ever do is put a filter to enhance the background. But I use to use Facetune when I had extremely bad acne, and it just made me feel worse about myself, I never wanted to take photos because the thought of editing was in the back of my mind.
when i was anorexic (still recovering atm tho) i'd look at fashion pages and "thinspo" . i thought it was healthy and okay to look so thin. if i knew it was fake it would've put less pressure on me. i had body dysmorphia and actually thought i was fat, i obsessed over my thighs and stomach.
The thigh gap thing got me wild, I had a pro ana tumblr and had so many quotes on my phone like "a minute on the lips is years on the hips" I'm almost glad about this "slim thicc" thing because it made me not so worried about not having a thigh gap. Its crazy that tumblr kinda normalized that stuff. I was never even fat, just not as skinny as "tumblr girls".
Yeah I went through anorexia thinking not eating and being super skin was normal. I would get happy when we discuss Anorexia in health class and seeing all the films about anorexia because it inspired me more. I’m in my recovery period and I truly feel like I’ve fully recovered because I’m on a weight gain journey but I do get those moments where I miss my super flat stomach
Omg this. Looking back I was severely underweight and genuinely thought I was fat. And not just in a “oh I’m not as skinny as I want to be” way like no I thought I was FAT. It’s so crazy being able to look back now at how warped my self perception was
@@maddylovesbooks the whole slim thick thing is just as bad though. They're photoshopped to hell too and now we're expected to be big everywhere while having a tiny waist and stomach
@@brittanytaylor3261 Im not sure how much this is related to media tbh. I had that twice in my life and looking back it had everything to do with how I felt and who were the people I interacted most with, what messages I was getting about my body from the people I cared about and trusted, especially since the people I did like their bodies in the media for me were always the thick sporty types :) And since people in this comment section were in recovery for anorexia, you guys know anorexia is about taking control, very little to really do with body image. And please dont take this the wrong way, Im not saying that media doesnt affect us or doesnt have a role in it, im just saying we historically tend to give media a lot more power in conversations than it actually has cause its a clear way of talking about it.
I'm a Gen Z, born 2000, had a flip phone tho, but still, I totally agree that my generation is affected much more than even my 24 yo sister. Being 18 now, I can't imagine posting an unedited picture (no facetune, just simple editing, but still) and am always in shock whenever she sends pictures with no makeup on. I get the feeling that even around family I tend to try to look perfect, kinda scared of looking bad. In front of my own family! Growing up on social media these days can really mess with you, even if you're aware of it all. Great content, thank you so much for making me rethink all of that again.
blackmoony Imagine living in the 1950s though. Everyone had to be even more perfect. You weren’t a perfect Christian Women/man, you were basically institutionalized or excommunicated from your family
Even though Photoshop hasn't been around forever, doctoring photos since the near invention of them are common, and has existed since the popularity in the Victorian ages. I suggest looking at a video by Karolina Żebrowska, where she explains about it. th-cam.com/video/ZXbcPgfiB0Q/w-d-xo.html
Breanne Dixon wow thats so weird right? tbh i am too afraid to completely delete my social medias bc i DO think that if you use It wisely it can become a nice tool to help you grow, learn new things, meets new people etc so from some time now ive been unfollowing a lot of creators and people in general that i feel like are not real or advertise toxic ideas, allowing only people that i believe to be inspiring, talented and that can add something for me, but in the most real way possible I also only post unedited photos now, it really helps with the body dismorphia thing
James Charles insta posts look NOTHING like he does irl😭 like dude if you’re gonna be a makeup influencer don’t edit your makeup looks and tell people to check out the video on your channel, total bull
He uses live filters on his videos too! When he's doing his makeup and his hand goes in front of his eyes his face will glitch. James Welsh explains it in a video
Creators straight up editing in new bone structure (not just covering zits, discoloration, wrinkles) is unnecessary and so bizarre.. most of them already have at least some kind of cosmetic surgery so it just doesn't make sense to me.
But it's prolly healthier to take a face-tuned version of you to your cosmetic surgeon as an idealised target point than a photo of this or that celebrity and their bone structure that is unattainable because it has no bearing on your face.
Sarah Barabe yeah, yeah it is, but if a trans woman wants facial feminisation or someone with bdd wants to be a little comfier in their skin, I can only see bringing the doc an attainable goal as a good thing. If you walk in with a realistic expectation-unless your underlying bone structure is very much like X celebrity's, you won't look like them when you've healed, regardless of how many photos of them you brought your surgeon-you're less likely to still be in a dysphoric place when things are all healed up.
i'm a gen z kid and i have resisted joining instagram or snapchat for exactly those reasons. i have a lot of body image issues, and have since i was younger, and they're slowly getting better. i am NOT about to trade recovery for the possibility of an expanded social network tbh
Same. My frinds don't really get it tbh. They think I'm sick and I have major problems and should go to therepy. But I'm actually fine. I feel better now that I'm off social media....
It sucks being a Gen Z teen. I’m 15 F and I’m so hyper aware/critical of my appearance online and in real life and sometimes it gets to the point where I cry when I look in the mirror. Edit: thank you guys for all your nice comments. I usually don’t feel like people don’t care about me unless I’m on the verge of suicide and it’s really nice to not feel that way :)
amber i had Youcam makeup and i would put fake make up on my face, change my eye colour yada yada. It was very fun and i only did it for fun and not cos i was insecure
I'm an older millenial (31) and totally agree that Gen Z is being hit hard by the facetune/instagram. It makes me sad to think that an idealized image is becoming the norm; not just for celebrities but for regular folks. I live in LA and everywhere I go I see copies of the same face. Plumped up lips, contoured make up etc. Bring back variety in appearance! There is no one size fits all in beauty!
Shoutout to the dude who wanted to hook up with me, but I declined. After that, called me 'a six'. When I asked "so you don't think I'm attractive?" he said "yes, you are very pretty. But look at these libanese porn models. They're proper 10s". He then showed me pics of women that barely even looked like real people because everything about them was fake or touched up (to a toddlers and tiaras headshot degree) and I'm like.. Wauw. Okay. Yeah, no wonder, man. I just can't believe how people find fakeness so attractive. I can't wrap my mind around it because I feel like natural men and women are so much more authentic and therefore more beautiful.
I'm glad you get rid of that idiot. You deserve better girl. I've always loved make up and I'm pretty very good at it. But since 2-3 years ago when the "porn star ultra fake" make up trend took place people say me things like "you are very pretty but your make up is very simple" "why don't you use fake lashes or more contour" and I say I love my skin and the natural look I don't want to go out with a cake frost over my face. And I've have an idiot ex boyfriend who told me that i have a great body but that my boobs were very small. Thanks to this trend men want pornstars not a classy, simple or minimalistic look in a woman. And the sad truth is that women want to look like pornstars
Right?! It’s also sad to see so many women on social media degrade and cheat themselves trying to capitalize off of posting photos of over sexualized, fake versions of themselves. I can’t imagine how damaging that must be to your happiness and mental health
@@princessirulancorrino4695 this is so true. More power to you for going for your own look! People like Kylie Jenner have really brought back the whole faker than fake look. Well, too bad for those men then. I'm gonna be who I am with my simple liner and mascara. If that isn't enough, they can go for their libanese pornstars and women with their fake, huge breasts and asses and lips. Good luck. Im really sorry to hear that an ex BOYFRIEND had the nerve to tell you such a thing. The asshole that told me I wasn't enough, was barely a friend of mine. But it must hurt far more when it's someone so close to you saying that. I sometimes believe that many men have no idea what a simple remark like that can cause with a woman. They have no idea what it feels like to be rejected based on looks, while the whole world keeps telling you looks are what's most important in a woman. Besides, why do so many men and women feel entitled to call out things about someone else they don't think are perfect? Who are they, God? Women should stand together instead of tearing each other down as well. We're all in the same boat. You sound like an intelligent woman and girl, don't let some piece of shit drag you down.❤️
Honestly I aspire to be like you in that ... your impact is so profound. For someone over 10 years younger than me but so wise and intelligent and well spoken, it’s inspiring. It makes me want to use my platform for good.
I usually use Facetune for the saturation; defocus, and whitening tools to edit the colors and backgrounds of my photos. But I also find myself using it to smooth my skin and “fix” my jaw, and I have to stop myself before I go too far. I think a little bit of editing is ok (like hiding acne, etc) but it definitely is damaging to easily create an unattainable version of yourself within minutes.
J O R I N Are you really hurting that much inside, you want to hurt others too? That doesn’t work dude. In fact, being kind to others is a lot better method to finding your own happiness.
panicatdx because most acne is temporary. sometimes, people with generally clear skin may have a random pimple appear and not want that in a photo. i’m assuming she’s meaning that kind of acne, and not the more severe side of acne scarring, which is less temporary
same for make up here.. dont edit your face too much or you wont love the real one anymore. this doesnt apply to anyone but at least for me and a few it does. underline your beautiful features and "imperfections" and love them for what they are ♥
I haven’t used facetune but I have felt the effects from Snapchat filters! Ever since I downloaded the app I hate taking selfies without a Snapchat filter. Prior to me having the app I loved taking selfies with no filters or editing. It has really changed the way I perceive my face. (I’m trying to take more pictures without a filter and get used to seeing my real face again.) People even have surgeries to look more like their Snapchat filter face!! Obviously it’s very toxic :( Great video!
I used to do the filters in 2016 but later on i don’t use it anymore because i love my face a little bit more (improving angles and such things like that) 😅
You should be a technology teacher in highschools. Social media is no longer just cyber bullying, it's created a cycle of bullying between you, yourself, and the screen. Maybe in the future you could create a program with this lessons to pitch to schools??
I have such a love hate relationship with social media. I want to go completely off grid because of things like facetune and FOMO and social media addiction and anxiety, but I also love using it to stay in touch with loved ones and getting to enjoy this type of content from creators I love. Since deleting my Instagram though I’ve noticed such a massive weight off my shoulders. And I’m trying to be more mindful about how I use Facebook and TH-cam and Snapchat, which are the platforms I do love using.
A friend of mine, she makes her jaw much sharper and body much slimmer when she posts photos BUT she's....already so damn beautiful without it. I just really wonder what her motive is.
i deleted my instagram 6 months ago and i’ve never looked back. my grades at uni have improved tremendously because i wasn’t using it to procrastinate, along with my confidence also improving!
It’s so weird being my age, 25, and having seen social media grow from its infancy to what it is now. In a lot of ways it’s stayed the same, from the photoshopping (all tho back then it was done very poorly haha) to the social media addiction, but it’s like everything’s increased ten fold.
same! i just turned 27 and i remember being 14 and signing up for a myspace account ~illegally~ bcus you had to be 16 at the time to sign up haha. but yes i agree, everything's just snowballed the more and more people got into social media.
I love this discussion. I’m a borderline Gen X-Millenial and the pressure to stay youthful in my appearance is real! I will sometimes use Facetune to smooth out some fine wrinkles I’m getting which are small but I feel a lot of women older than me completely opt out of putting ANY pictures of themself anymore (50+) because they feel they just can’t keep up with the beauty standard we place on women in our society. It’s quite sad, really.
Its up to you if you want to perpetuate the problem. Rejecting perfectionism starts with YOU not fixing YOUR wrinkles. You complain of the problem but you are the problem?
Was seriously thinking about this the other day. I was mulling over whether things like photoshop and facetune might be creating something like “beauty inflation” that means a 6 by 1990’s standards would be considered a 4 now (or w/e), solely based off a subconscious standards adjustment that happened gradually thanks to technology. Like maybe we consider more irl people to be “average” or even ugly looking than we did in the pre-internet era, just because our tech has raised the threshold of attainable hotness pretty high, even if it is artificially so. Along this vein of thought, I’d love to see a survey to see how many people have been surprised by a tinder date’s real life appearance versus their photo. Another thought provoking video, thank you.
Great insight. I'm 44 and was a my peak in the 90s. I had an obsession with perfection then and I thank God everyday I am not young now. It's brutal. That's why the beauty industry has exploded. There was 1/5 the brands in the 90s and no Sephora or Ulta. People strive to look in real life like the filters.
ty for being so delicate when talking abt gen z- as someone born in 2000 it means a lot when someone doesnt shit on u for ur generation’s habits/tendencies but just talks about them nonjudgementally
I totally agree. The amount of people (millennials included) who say "oh gen z wears too much makeup at such a young age, I never wore makeup at fourteen" and its like bro, first off that's only like 1/2 of gen z teens, also if they like it, good for them, and also part of the reason we wear makeup is from famous people from older generations that we want to be like.
I'd say the worst part about facetune is how attractive and charming someone can look no matter how bad of an personality they have. I'm always shook when I find the profile of someone I dislike and they seem so beautiful and supportive online even though that doesn't represent themselves in person. Maybe the compliments get to their heads and they somehow lose touch to reality and how to treat someone.
Hi! Neuropsychologist here! Your part about the disconnect between reality and what people think they look like is indeed a very important part in BDD, adn in the development of BDD! There's been an increase in both BDD, anxiety disorders, and eating disorders with the rise of social media platforms. The disconnect seen in BDD is also seen in anorexia, where people continuously perceive themselves as fat, even when they have no muscle or fat left on their bodies and they literally are just skeletons with a tiny layer of skin. Therapies for anorexia have focused on breaking that disconnect, and having the patients reasess how they look (for example having to draw themselves fullscale, then lying down on the drawing and having someone trace their actual outline, to compare that disconnect). I'm not sure what the current treatments are for BDD, but I guess they are an adamptation of the therapies used for OCD because of the overlap between those disorders :)
this is a slight tangent but the way we look at and talk about skin and skincare is so interesting. we talk about having 'good' or 'bad' skin, 'clear' skin, and call acne prone skin 'problem' skin. we often feel the need to correct acne out of our photos- in part because we feel as if everybody on the planet has clear skin, because everybody edits out acne. it's a vicious ass cycle. skin is the largest organ on our body, skin does so much to protect us and heal us and yet we call it 'bad' if it produces a pimple??? idk.
All of this comes back to capitalism really. The makeup industry (when it comes to creating dewy acne free looking skin) and the skincare industry know they have to feed on people hating their own skins to make the money they need. Same goes for FaceTune and "weight loss" as a goal, this is what the diet industry has worked the hardest on. Making people believe being fat is inherently unhealthy and ugly. A lot of our views of "perfection" exist only for monetary gains of others.
@@oohcomma But... If you exercise you won't be the bad-fat. It is possible to be "good"-fat but only if you're built that way. I mean, we all are different. (Not counting medical stuff!)
I have never used facetune but since getting snapchat and using those filters I have noticed that a picture of me I would have thought was cute a few years ago is not good enough and I feel like I'm ugly unless I use a filter to "fix it" And I'm a moderately confident 30 year old...I can't even imagine the negative impact these things in social media would have had on me as an insecure teenager😢
@@gretchensmith2852 I read about that too! At the time I didnt think it applied to me but lately I can see the impact its had on me....I feel so sad for these little ones growing up right now.😢
Yes! I just commented about this too. I quit using those filters a couple months ago but it was roughy at first. I don’t even turn it on now. It helps.
You are one of the most emotionally intelligent people I’ve ever interacted with, especially on the Internet. I so appreciate how much work you put into researching and presenting a controversial topic. Thank you
I feel like there is a double standard about editing how we look in photos. I also grew up in a time where magazines were criticized for editing the people (women) in them. It was fought against & industries have been changing that slowly. Remember when Aeropostalé (Aerie) made the switch? But now we've gone back to it being okay on social media because we're the ones controlling it. I feel like there's an imbalance because these two sides exist with each other rn. I hope this makes sense. It's just interesting...
When I was growing up, magazines got flack for touching up photos because it was seen as creating an unrealistic standard (great for marketers, since everyone will always feel inadequate, but bad for self image). With social media and apps like Facetune, now ordinary people are doing the editing too...although I don't think the motive is to sell products so much as just make the best possible impression among strangers who are unlikely to ever see them in real life.
I didn't know of face tune before and certainly didn't think people edited there bodies. As someone who is recovering from an eating disorder (I don't have body dysmorphia), this is probably a bad idea but my stupid brain couldn't resist testing it out. So I took a picture from when I was almost underweight (that was the only time I took body pictures), and made my waist a bit smaller. And there I saw how I wanted to look, I got so miserable and sick to achieve what can not be achieved cause I realized now that I just have a larger waist, even if I'm thin. Seeing myself look how I wanted, It was really triggering and I deleted the app and the photo immediately. I'm not gonna let it affect my eating but if you're in an earlier stage of recovery, please don't use the app.
Currently been in recovery for about three months, and I am so glad I never got into this kind of thing. My body image/comparison was (is, tbh) terrible enough without it, and I can't imagine how bad it could've felt, especially since even the images in this video were triggering. Hope you're doing well!
Thank you so much for talking about it. I'm so tired of huge fake lips, huge fake hips, huge fake boobs, white strike on the cheek as highlighter, tiny fake nose, tiny fake waist that makes me feel like I'm ever good enough. It's at a point you can't tell influencers apart. Watching this video is giving me hope that something might actually change one day or another. But please do talk about surgery because that's a massive issue on Instagram. I see 19 year old influencers with overdone lips who give botox sessions away in their stories and...no. I've seen people who couldn't manage to become successful on IG who decided to have their lips done to attract more people AND IT WORKED ?
I'm white and have super wide hips and a small waist in comparison. I'm still super tall for a woman though (a little over 5'11'') so it's not the "ideal" but it's funny how something I used to be shamed for as a young teen, when tiny hips were IT, now is being idolized. I've always been very attractive to guys though... Must be a biological thing when you have obvious-looking child-bearing hips lol. Edit: but, for real, I'm one of the whitest white girls you'll ever meet lol. It's not exclusive to black people is all I'm saying.
No Name actually African women are generally more bottom heavy. Their breasts are actually generally really small, except when people are obese. White women have the biggest boobs in average.
Even Black Women do not have those bodies. Their bodies are incredibly plastic. Show me a Women who has a natural hour shape that doesn't have bigger thighs to match. I have a natural hour glass shape and yet I still get insecure because of my thighs. I see "Instagram models" with my shape BUT super skinny thighs. Or Women with bigger perky breast (which i know is possible) but it's natural to have some sag. I get incredibly insecure. How is that even possible to have this "Instagram body" without surgery or photoshop?
It’s also really unhealthy in general for people to be that obsessed with their own beauty. People have cared how they looked in pictures since the camera was invented, but constantly projecting and curating an image of yourself as if you have some responsibility to be attractive is poisonous to a happy life. You should definitely do those other videos you talked about! Good stuff.
not only since the camera. since the beginning of time. why else do people (especially edwardian) fake tiny waists? for their image. i believe it was since the beginning of time.
Also, to give you another perspective, I’m a teenage gen-z. I totally agree with you and when I joined Instagram I found it was so toxic to me both with body image and I started to want to go places not to have fun there or do something but to post it and that Is so messed up to me so I gave up my phone altogether for six months and now only use TH-cam and Pinterest. It was terrible and even before I used social media when I was eight I was obsessed with “fitness” (in quotes because fitness shouldn’t be about starving yourself and disordered eating) I made a list at age eight of the exercise I forced myself to do for different snacks I ate even if they were healthy or nutritious. And that was only with the photoshop I saw in magazines and people in movies, I can’t imagine younger kids. Both of my two sisters and I have had trouble with eating disorders and I think a lot of that has to do with social media
Its the 3mm focal length,portrait photographers tend to use 85mm at the very least to avoid distortion.phone cameras distort the hell out of the image.
I like myself in the mirror but on photos I look like the literall hunchback of notredame, I always get depressed when photos are taken and tressure the few photos I look ok on and I keep asking myself if the mirror reflexion or the photos are what I actually look like. Then I remember that I am never actually gonna see myself because it's physically impossible and I get creeped out.
I'm too lazy to use face tune tbh. I might add a filter but other than that, the public is getting what they get when it comes to me😂 plus I think a lot of people look like actual aliens when they facetune their photos. I think it's sad that people feel the need to do this to themselves and I hope this changes soon:/
instagram is so toxic, whenever I see a photo of someone looking impossibly gorgeous and i scroll through the comments, there are people who are like "i want to be as pretty as you" or "can i be you". idk if they're joking but if they're not that's just really upsetting. sometimes social media advocates impossible perfection that no one can achieve instead of showing people body positivity and acceptance
i hate how people are normalizing this, how everyone says to love yourself but then face tune every single pic. i used to face tune my pics and that’s honestly when my self confidence was lowest because what I saw on social media wasn’t what I saw in the mirror. I’m not face tuning anymore and I am starting to feel more confident in myself :) but I also get slight edits to make an overall pic look better for the a e s t h e t i c Lolol
As someone with diagnosed body dysmorphic disorder, looking at facetuned pictures of myself is more triggering for me and has prompted me to consider cosmetic surgery almost compulsively
As someone who has BDD and has used facetune in the past, I can tell you that for me at least the answer to your question is no. I could edit myself to look like a whole new person and that still wouldnt be enough, there would always be someone else who sets the bar higher and higher that I would never reach
11:10 I have anorexia and honestly, every time I hit a goal weight or lost weight in an area that bothered me, my goal weight would change and my perception gets worse. You never like what you see
fun fact: we are part of a crossover generation. I'm 20 and I don't fully relate to either one, not that anyone does. But, we aren't considered really either because the years aren't defined.
It honestly depends on the life you were living. I'm 27 going on 28 and some of the things that people 20-23 are things I can't really relate with but that's just one personal example. I do think it's true that people born towards the late 90s are kind of in a crossover as they were experiencing a bit of the tail end of the mid 00s.
@Periwinkleeyes70 I think you mean Xanga? The website right? lol I remember back in the day a friend said I should make a profile there and when I did, I only spent like 2 days on it because I was so preoccupied with other things. But I was actually more into MSN Messenger & Yahoo Messenger. Oh and AIM... Man I feel old... lol
@Periwinkleeyes70 Ah I see lol Yeah I remember signing up for a Xanga account when I was in the 7th grade but yeah, I was way more hooked on MSN Messenger during those days. That and a bit of MySpace (I actually wasn't on it as much as some others were, only checked it once every few days except on like Fridays where I'd browse a little longer lol)
Same, I'm 19 and im at a very awkward stage of some people really caring and some not caring at all. I do find for me though that Instagram has made me far more insecure than i used to be. It does make me feel ugly even though i know it shouldn't matter
Gen Z is from 1995 -2010 or 2012. You were either born in 98 or 99. You are Gen Z. There is no "crossover group" because there are people who are older who are Gen Z like people who are 23 or even 24. You arent a 90s kid. You're a 2000s kid. Its really not that hard to understand. You are *definitely* not a millennial. You are just on the older end of the Gen Z. Digital Natives. All generations have a starting point and youre a part of it. People born on 1982 wont be exactly like those born in 92 but they are the same generation. Millennial. Works the same way for Gen Z. Youre thinking of little kids born in 2010 but most Gen Z people are in the tweens or teens. The young are like 8 or 9. Thats only a 10-12 year difference from you. Thats not far at all. Just seems that way singe when you are young, development is starkly different but when they are 32 and you 42 its not that big of a difference.
I used facetune just once and it made me incredibly uncomfortable. Looking at an uncannily edited version of yourself that you're meant to "like better" creates such an off putting cognitive dissonance. I can't judge others for using it, but I don't think it's something I want in my life or something I want to promote on my social media accounts.
Alice Dayton same ! Ive used it only once to make my teeth whiter and it just didnt seem right at all, so I deleted this picture. I dont understand people using facetune because I just dont feel comfortable using an edited pic of myself, it always feel weird
Exactly.! I once asked a friend to edit my photos to have a better background and she ended up slimming my body as well. It's was subtle, but I felt so sick seeing the image. I felt fake even looking at that slimmed down version of myself, and I.m not that overweight to begin with! I felt the exact same thing you described.
As someone who currently edits their photos with facetune, After watching this I’m completely shocked. Ive been using it for years. And recently while looking into the mirror I have become more and more distant with who I truly am. I have literally tricked my mind and eyes into believing I actually look like my pictures. And now, While looking in the mirror a state of depression and confusion take over. And its even worse because I AM TRANSGENDER. So it makes me feel like I NEED facetune. Because if not I will look to manly. With that being said, I haven’t taken pictures recently. Im deep in the rabbit hole. One day I will pull myself out. -Tessa.
Baby I'm sure you are beautiful inside and out, don't let fake standards make you believe otherwise. We as woman need to accept and love ourselves, hard as it is in the society we live in. You can do it ❤️❤️❤️
I don't know if you had seen this, but James Charles actually did a video where he facetuned one of his fans photos. Obviously the fan consented and was a willing participant, but I was still quite shocked. At first I felt it rude to take a photo of someone else and fix what he(?) deemed imperfections. Second I found it crazy that he would send out a message like that and would be teaching his young fans how to facetune. This is where it goes beyond the fact of someone doing it for themselves but it actually effecting others. I enjoy James Charles but this kind of behavior should not be encouraged and it's a little concerning. I feel like a couple of years ago there was a revolution of confronting photoshoppers and confronting the media for its promotion of unattainable beauty standards and here we are still fixing our photos. I enjoyed this video and can't wait for more!
I just wanna mention that the video in question he didn't facetune what he found to be imperfections, the fans specifically asked him to do certain parts of their face but I get your message.
I saw the same video (though I didn't watch it because James Charles isn't my thing) and I thought the same thing. Most of his fans are young, so surely that's sending the message to them that they SHOULD be facetuning their selfies. Ick.
Emily E B How can you judge a video you didn’t watch? In the video, James just brightens the makeup and fixes small things the girls suggested. He doesn’t massively alter their faces, but more accurately portrays the way makeup looks in real life versus through the camera. I’m not a James Charles fan, but I did watch the video because I had the same thoughts as you but didn’t want to make assumptions.
Besides beauty gurus, I wonder how dietitians and fitness gurus use Facetune? Considering diet and fitness services and equipment are much more expensive and longterm investments than a makeup palette, I'd find this very problematic.
I remember when I was younger (born 1999) I used to like, suck in my cheeks, I wanted more defined cheekbones, I wanted that look....now I'm an adult with an adult face and I realize that kids don't really often look that way. I thought to be pretty I had to look like girls on magazines, but kids just CAN'T look that way, they have baby fat!! I feel like thats another place the danger lies, kids want to use face app and contour and shit to look like adults but their face arent at that point yet.
I literally did the same thing, I haaaaaaaaated my chubby cheeks. My face got a little more defined around the age of 15, but my cheeks were still here. It took me a long time and lots of other people convincing me that there is nothing wrong with my face
i'm 13 and i had a similar problem in a way -- for about a year now i've noticed that i have a habit of clenching my jaw as an exercise to give myself more of a jawline. It's like a tic. Of course i'm not gonna have a bloody jawline i'm a *child* and i excessively comfort eat *what do i expect-* When i was 11 i had this blinking tic where i just could not stop mf blinking and winking and truthfully that stemmed from me wanting "higher eyebrows" so i looked up "exercises for higher eyebrows" and one of them entailed closing ur eyes and rolling your eyes up until you can like feel the pull (hard to explain pffft), and that turned into a tic. I got mildly picked on at school for said tic and tbh if i had it in year8 and 9 as well i would have got bodied so it's a bloody miracle i sorted that shit out in time. But as you can see obsessive insecurity can cause big ass problems and unrealistic beauty standards set by shit like Facetune do *not help pfffft-*
I’m 11 and have no baby fat.. my jaw is pretty strong I guess. (I’m female) sometimes people tease me and say "your face is so skinny!" I get so annoyed..
You seem to be very in tune with society, which is what we don’t see a lot of these days. There are so many people on social media who are feeding this idea of what we need to look like, and they don’t even know they’re doing it! It’s not a crime to have insecurities, which is what most of these influencers have. All they believe is that they are just editing their photos so no one else will call them ugly. But they don’t realize that the photos they share promotes this idea that manipulation is what will keep you from getting called ugly. To be so afraid of being called out for flaws and imperfections that they need to manipulate the photos to what they believe people want them to look like. But every time they get a like on their photo, it shows approval from their audience and they keep editing their photos in this vicious cycle.
but the girl who did this video manipulated her beauty countless times! so did you and so did I, we weren't born with this body we have now and damn in five minutes we wont have the same body
Heres my question, lets say a young girl uploads pics untouched and doesnt get much reaction but then she posts a pic thats been "facetuned" and receives a lot of attention and compliments... is she then going to feel inadequate and as if her real, untouched, unaltered self isn't good enough? Isnt pretty enough? And when she does begin to feel that way is it a slippery slope to body dismorphia? Does she begin to feel the need to cosmetically change herself to match the altered image believing thats all she needs to be happy when in all reality it will never be enough? ?? As a mom of a 13 yr old, and being 13 myself, albeit 18 yrs ago, and seeing 100s of images a day that made me feel inadequate, its terrifying. I grew up with 2 older brothers and heard all their friends talk about how X girl on X magazine was perfect and then would look at myself knowing i didnt measure up. It tore my confidence to shreds even though i was smart enough to know the images were altered, unfortunately my brothers dumb friends weren't haha and so their perception of what a woman is suppose to look like is so skewed and warped no real woman will ever measure up. I saw a Harvard study done in 2013, icr the name or who did it, but basically it focused on how young men ages 18-24 were shown images of real breats and cosmetically enhanced breats with implants and they showed to not only favor implants they couldn't get aroused by the natural breasts and when asked they all said "they dont look real"... so these young men have grown up being exposed to porn, pictures, magazine covers etc etc of women with either implants or heavily photoshopped breasts to the point where the altered breasts are "normal" and "real" to them that real, natural breasts look wrong.... it blew my mind, their reality is so warped... and yet we are suppose to live up to that?!? And its only getting worse... Ps i feel rly sorry for those guys because its going to be a really lonely existence trying to find a woman who meets their "reality" because she doesnt exist in real life. No matter how much surgery one has it will never stand up to photoshop...
Storie Smith and it’s getting so much worse, young men in their 20s are having porn induced erectile dysfunction and can’t perform with a real partner. It makes the young lady feel inadequate and it just sucks all around. I used to be 100% fine w porn but now that I’ve seen how damaging it can be , and how it’s changed to become more graphic and violent, it’s a real eye opener as to the damage it can cause in guys and relationships.
It's so difficult... I post make-up photos, and I could paint the Sistine chapel on my face.... but I don't get the feedback that photoshoppers do with weaker skills. Do I care? Not really, I don't define my skill by how man people hit like...but I see how people are flocking to the farce.
@@Puglover130It's especially problematic that porn is getting more violent, the rough sex that they show is often more painful than fun for the woman and a lot of men get hurt too. You never see how they put on protection or how sore they are after doing it, it creates an image of sex that is so different from the reality that people do things wrong and feel like they're not good enough at it. It makes people frustrated and sad, it breaks relationships and blurs boundaries. I was shocked when I heard that the most popular porn on websites is rape porn, how in the world is that legal?! Research has shown that people who watch a lot of rape porn become more and more desensitized from the harm and trauma it inflicts on the victim. The classic ''she said no but afterwards she liked it so it's fine'' is so toxic and scary, I've heard too many rapists say that they thought it would be okay because online it always is... Violent sex and rape should not be depicted in porn, it's not a normal fetish. We don't spread child porn for the same reason: you can't seriously promote the content and say it's okay to get turned on by someone's suffering. If someone wants to date me, they'll have to show me their porn history. All seriousness, I can deal with a fetish or two but if you enjoy rape porn I'll send you to a therapist and we will never be together.
Storie Smith My baby sis is 12. Most of the kids in her class uses Facetune or similar (although, for the most part badly) A few of Them complained when the school put a few pictures of Them on fastelavn (Danish halloweeen) Not because the pictures where inapropriate or without consent, but because They where ‘ugly’. Most of Them where also dressed as sexy mice or nurses. So yes, it is definetly an issue. My sister is not allowed to have social media Yet, because we know how easily she gets influenced (as example wanting a product because a youtuber made an add. She legit asked for a 2k handbag yesterday, because she had been doing good in school) Her classmates for the most part has social media and Unfortunatly it has already put Them into trouble.
I think the problem with all the facetuning is that influencers are not just some models somewhere. There are many influencers that seem way more "Girl/Guy Next Door"-like compared to the Kardashians or whoever. It pressures you more when you feel that some normal person still looks perfect.
as a person who also seems to be in the millennial - gen z gap, I watched this happen and just didn't understand why it all does. I never really participated in this whole social media thing, never even started and I find all of these things believable and *wild* but ultimately unsurprising.
Hannah Stahl AGREED 100%. We need to stop using them as the examples of “perfect bodies”. Especially due to the high amounts of plastic surgery they get.
I have BDD and I just don;t take pics cuz I hate my image soooo much. and even if i were to take pics, i wouldn't use facetune or the like because that would just kill me more :( like "this could be me but its not" :((((
i feel the same, like i already hate how i look in photos, but then editing them to make me feel better feels super fake, like the person in the photo isn't me and i would be lying to myself if i said it is, and i would be lying even more if i post it on sns
I don't think I have BDD, but I can _totally, absolutely_ relate. I refuse to be in *any* pictures and try to hide my face from other people as much as possible. Ugh.
Same, but isn’t it disgusting that media/societal expectations have made it so people are ashamed of your image so much you can’t bear to look at yourself. There should be no way you -have- to look, just to be allowed to exist normally
I totally agree. The issue with the "why do you care if this person does this" is that nothing exists in a vacuum! People are so quick to defend their idols by declaring their actions are their own, but they're not, none of us exist in a vacuum.
Fuck Off I somehow read the first part of your username and the second part of your comment and thought you commented “fuck too.” I was confused, to say the least.
A few months ago I was really into the big beauty TH-camrs and watched a lot of James Charles. It never did sit right with me though how he was so positive about facetune tough and how he said that it changes your face the same way as makeup does. I never could quite put into words why I didn't agree with that statement, but this did a great job of it. Thank you for the video!
Facetune costs on AppStore and I'm not spending money on some editing app lol. I've recently stopped using snapchat filters though. Just find some good lighting and angles tbh
When I would go into the bathroom I would never look at myself in the mirror Bcs I was literally disgusted and I would hate seeing pictures of myself I would get very sad. Also Instagram really affects me. I never know what Is photoshopped, so when I see girls bodies I get very tough on myself and just really insecure
Here is a thing that worked for me: for today, just look the mirror and don’t think about your imperfections, think like this “I will see this imperfection tomorrow, but today I am not”. And the next day, do the same. For some days or weeks, it is gonna be hard. After that, look at the mirror and see what you like about it. Try it, and your brain will forced to get used to it. In some weeks or months, you will start to like yourself more. Sorry my English, it’s not my original language.
I facetuned a photo of myself once out of curiosity, I made tiny (what i thought were subtle) changes in my body & face. When I was finished and saw the two photos in comparison I was horrified at how completely different I had made myself look without realising it. haven't touched it since, it made me feel disgusted in my appearance for a long time afterwards and i couldn't help but see myself as gross, bloated and misshapen in a way I hadn't before. Not for me I guess haha
i remember reading some discussion a couple years back how preteens (10-14) are freaking experts in makeup and fashion whereas when millennials were that age, we didnt even wear makeup to post on the internet. like theres such a hyper focus on wealth/looks/perfection bcus of today's social media websites and its influencing young kids to attempt to emulate these unattainable standards. your video perfectly sums up my feelings on facetune and man. i worry about the kiddos :(
@@seacat6048 when i was in middle school i rarely saw girls wear makeup outside of a few rare myspace selfies. i feel like it was okay to be silly and childish andweird during middle school but now kids (and girls in particular) see all this on the internet and think that they should be acting older and doing older things. i hope these kids have a mentor or parent who is there for them if their psyche ends up in a dark place due to this.
Luckily, the make up madness hasn't arrived here in Uruguay. I was born in 2000 and we used disquettes til' 2009 aprox, so I guess we are way back in time.
I wasn't even allowed to wear makeup in middle school, and now 12 year olds be doin smokey eye looks and shit for their little social studies classes. Bizarre.
pris diaz im 16 and never grew up with make up so even now i can only do masacara (literally) but i see my cousin and young 12 year old girls do full faces. Its sad they don’t even act like kids and like when i was a kid. They grew up too fast
I use Instagram but I avoid the toxicity by following people that don't just post hot photos of themselves. I follow activists, artists, and other people who post things of substance.
I agree with you it’s definitely problematic because it becomes deceitful. I don’t really have a problem with ppl tweaking very minor things on otherwise great picture. Like sometimes you squeeze your arm flab the wrong way when you know in person it looks different. But very different things to change your body proportions like your waist, your butt your face, everything. That’s just a serious lie. How do you explain yourself when people see you in person?
Thanks for your work. I'm 36 years old, so I didn't grow up with face tuning etc. About 10 years ago a friend took a photo of me and she used a filter to remove any blemishes I had, when she showed me the photo I recoiled, I didn't recognise this bland, cartoonist version of myself. Suffice to say I have never embraced face tuning etc. To me, it's pointless, I grew up free of such pressure. My heart goes out to younger people who have grown up with this pressure... please know there is always the affirming option to simply present your real self. All the best, Maeve in Ireland
Maeve Carroll This is neither here or there, but i adore your name. 😊 Major name envy here (and there). Oh, also, i googled it, because for some reason i have been half-convinced Maeve means „seagull” in Gaelic, but apparently it means „she who intoxicates”, which is a hundred times better, heh. You learn something new everyday! * end of pointless comment *
I’m guilty of this. I make my self skinner and make my acne scars disappear but not that much. But this video is making me think I shouldn’t thank you 😭💕
I find Facetune extremely bizarre. We can see you in real life mate.
That's exactly what I've always thought. I'm so behind on culture stuff, I've never even seen facetune before. And now I'm beginning to feel better with that fact.
But the majority of people who use facetune do it because they have a mass amount of followers who won't see them in real life and if they do most people will not be able to compare on the spot or will view it as good lighting and posing. While yes, you can get a bomb ass picture with a solid pose and a ring light it only goes so far.
@@samikay9599 I don't know how that could be true. The population of influencers is much smaller than compared to regular people. What, there's probably 100's to maybe into the 1,000's of influencers. There are 100s of millions of people in the U.S. alone. Then you consider the entire world. You really think that out of billions of average non-influencers people on the planet, there are fewer than a couple thousand using face tune in a regular? Because that's the only way your statement could be true. I think face tune is simply a tool that all types of people use to a great degree, influencers are included in that number, not leading the number. Which is the problem being addressed in this video. Everyday photos/selfies being altered like every image is going to be on a magazine cover, then people come to rely on those retouches, and then their insecurity grows deeper.
@@asideofaioli4630 there is way more than that in the way of influencers. If you are thinking of the big ones maybe but every person how has a couple of 100 thousand followers are influencers. Even people like me who posts mostly art is considered a influencer because my art page has 250k.
@@samikay9599 Not really. And I get what you're saying, but I think you greatly overestimate influencer numbers and greatly underestimate the amount of average people using face tune. *To influence really just means to have an effect on someone.* So we're all technically influencers. But in today's terms,an Influencer is a position- someone who possesses marketable or social power; and not just over a few, but to be an influencer the numbers must be there in more ways than 1.
They must have a distinctive audience,who also has some form of loyalty to the influencer (whether that be following, lurking, copying, listening to, buying recommended products/services, etc). And simply having followers isn't enough. That audience must be generally consistent in consuming your output (I "follow" lots of people's pages, but I'm not going back each week, or month. So I would not be a consistent follower, nor do they have much of an effect on my buying, ideas or decisions. Rather, I saw something I liked and essentially saved the page, or channel). If everyone is an "influencer," then no one is. Sort of like, if everyone is special, no one is. Very few slots are filled with people that have true influencer power. I'm not saying one needs to be a James Charles. Someone can have lower subscribers than you, but they possess more views and more power over that smaller group of people and/or more power on aspects in society. So subscribers alone aren't a determinant. Otherwise, that channel of the guy demonstrating diagnostic help for computers and phones is an influencer, because he has a nice follower count. But he isn't. Because he lacks power and significant marketable influence.
But yeah, at the end of the day, we might just have to agree to disagree. This particular convo chain isn't all that important anyway. I hope you have a great week 😊
People always complain that “oh middle schoolers don’t have weird phases anymore, they grow up too fast” but when a kid does have that phase they’re put in cringe comps and made fun of
That's a part of it: shaming those who don't look and act flawlessly graceful all the time.
Ok so this is just my opinion and I think middle schoolers still have wierd phrases and quite a lot of insecurities and people complaining doesn’t make it any better
Carla 29 yeah some still do, I knew some people like that in middle school but they were classified as “the weird kid” for that
The reason a lot of young girls wear makeup is because they feel like they need to look good or else they will be made fun of by older people (funny enough, those people are usually the same that claim that they shouldn't wear so much makeup at such a young age)
Here's the thing, though. 12-13 year olds shouldn't be posting themselves on the internet in the first place.
omg can you please talk about how teens are not allowed to have that 'awkward phase' anymore? like 14 year olds now (especially with social media) try to look like they're 18 or 20? I mean look at let's say, ashley tisdale at age 13 or 14 vs how millie bobby brown who's now 13-14 looks, she looks like a grown up (and she looks very nice because she has stylists that manage it all, but she sets the standard very high for young people. Teens now are not allowed to be teens anymore, it seems like they jump from being kids to looking 20.
@@tiffanyferg aaaaand they wear like full faces of makeup now?? like all me and my friends wore at 14-15 to PARTIES was eyeliner, mascara and lipstick??!! i remember this video from like two years ago and it was like 'middle school makeup' where a 14 or 15 (i think??) year old helped her friend that was probs like 12 to go makeup shopping and she LEGIT made her buy a lot of stuff like foundation, concealer and a lot of other things a 12 year old doesnt really need??? idk im not really sure if girls should start wearing that much makeup at that age
@@tiffanyferg th-cam.com/video/Euxyso_eMi4/w-d-xo.html here's the video lol im sorry if im too annoying with this topic and im not shaming the girls because they seem like they are having fun but it really does concern me the fact that tweens and teens arent allowed to act their age anymore?? ok bye
Mónica Wong yes, please!!
I feel like a lot of it has to do with how much we sexualize youth. A lot of times TV shows that focus on high schoolers are played by adult actors because they want the characters to still have some sex appeal, and casting adults is the only way they can do that.
OMG yes
They need to make a black mirror episode where when ever you facetune or bodytune yourself it alters it in real life PAINFULLY.
NOAH BODIES or like a cautionary tale, you sharpen your jaw on facetune then wake up and OOP
YES. PLEASE.
I love how you’ve written painfully in caps 😂 makes the idea so much darker
There’s an episode on a kdrama that kind of goes into this!
YESSSSS
I remove my acne scars and give myself a nice skin, but I only feel ugly afterwards because I then realize what I could've looked like without bad skin. It's just damaging and self-destructive behavior tbh.
I do the same thing. If it weren't for these scars I'd be popping lol
I do the same thing and it really does just make me anxious and upset afterwards.
anityy Have you ever heard of shell of mother-of-pearl?
It removed my acne scars in about a week (it may vary depending on how long you’ve had them, just like with stretch marks)
But I would really recommend you give it a try!
@anityy off topic but whats the album cover in your pfp. I cant remember what song i liked lol
i used to do the same thing.
I feel like snapchat "pretty" filters are just as much of a problem, it's upsetting to me to see myself made 'prettier' by smoothing my skin and widening my eyes and narrowing my face, making my nose smaller, etc. I hope that in the uocoming years we more embrace imperfections in our bodies, not being afraid to show acne, scars, cellulite, uneven skin tone and natural body types in a more mainstream way.
True, I stopped using them and find myself alot prettier without them now.
Omg i hadn't seen that you'd made a video about this exact topic when i left this comment lol
I get freaked out by them. Even the animal ears ones have this weird distortion effect that makes me look.... not right (not counting the actual animal ears.） Also, why does it put makeup on me?!!
Atleast those a re super obvious though. Like you know people only look that ay because eof the filters. With factune an dohtoshop you start thinking that's the way people look
And always giving me blue or hazel eyes and/or freckles like I can’t just have my natural features..
We need to stop liking these pictures. Period
But Those people would die without your attention! Lol
I know! I hate people who complain about Instagram photos they give it attention.
If people hadn't this need of this aesthetic they wouldn't make it so popular. What we need is education and not restriction.
How do we know when some are so well done?
Right, but sometimes you can’t tell if it’s edited or not
As a professional photographer, I flat refuse to remove anything in a picture that isn't a pimple or a temporary blemish. I will not ever change the way a body looks.
Thank you
But... but... I'm gonna diet! And exercise! In six months I WILL look like that! And if all else fails, I'll get plastic surgery! I just want my photos to match the way I intend to look!
I respect you.
thank you, you changing their body can make them feel insecure. good on you
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i wish i could use a snapchat filter without it altering my face. i just want dog ears, not a makeover!!
The dog filter never used to have the makeup included. It was just simple ears, nose, tongue and smoothing a little skin. Idk why they ruined it and the fake lenses just make my eyes look weird.
That’s why I love the instagram filters, if you follow the right people, filters will be funny or artistic
MooCloud_123 • okay?
@@maddikemp9164 LMFAO
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I always find the worst/most patronizing issue with heavily Facetuned and edited influencers being when they turn around and say “life isn’t perfect! I’m not perfect! Don’t believe everything on instagram!” And yet, they are the ones perpetuating it and turning it around on the viewer to feel guilt and responsible.
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why guilt??
Halen Sav exactly
B A P T I S M because its mixed messages, should you be against it or not, are you supposed to believe what you see or not. Then you feel guilty for not knowing like you should know. They make you feel bad for feeling bad when you see face tuned pictures.
Yes!!!! Say it louder for those in the back! If they just posted their photos how they naturally look, imperfections and all, places like Instagram would be a lot more bearable!
We've come along way from red eye corrector :)
Discovermyview lol we have. But that never worked for me. Maybe I was dumb
Random Woman mood
*a long
As a 17 year old white dude, it really helps to hear an informed woman talk about these issues. Thank you for doing this
Glad your listening and it helps!
I am 32 and remember my times of different type of online drama.
How possesed a huge mass of people are under instagram was highly unexpected and disturbing.
I remember the world prior to instagram and post. There is a reason why I never created an account
Idk why your race matters tho? Lol
Ugh why you gotta always make it about race, dude?
Holly Harpel hes just explaining what demographic hes from
Octo Official beta
People don't believe me when I say I don't have an Instagram since I have a channel but I just can't do it, being on it for five minutes has me looking in the mirror different. It's crazy
Ugh forreal I’ve had Instagram since maybe 2014 but I’d use it to keep in contact with my friends and just post like pictures of weather or some shit lmao, it was used so differently back then, and now I’ve just stopped using it altogether, because now it’s only used for showing off your body, idk maybe sometimes I’ll go on insta just to like my friends pictures and keep in contact with long decent friendships but I only post like once a year because it’s just such a toxic platform. I’m 15 and I see girls my age and younger showing off their body and there’s no problem with it, like, they can do whatever they want, but they only do it for the likes and it’s worse when the pictures clearly photoshopped. Idk makes me feel pressured about my image and even the amount of likes I might get on a picture. uGh it’s so stupid. 🙅🏻♀️
Lorraine Gold girl, same here! I’ve never had an Insta, I know myself and I know that seeing all these girls on there would be incredibly detrimental to my mental health. I’ve already had a lot of problems with body confidence, so I’ve decided to be kind to myself and not put that kind of stuff in my head.
I deleted my insta when bc of that reason Im so glad I got rid of it
To be honest: I don't really understand that. You only see things of people you follow and you don't have to follow these "fake perfect" people. Most people I follow only post books or dogs. You can definitely be on Instagram and not see these toxic things.
I feel that... I love makeup and I always feel like my makeup is great and I love it. Then I go on Instagram and feel like I'm doing everything all wrong and that I can never look like others on the gram. It's annoying! Having confidence on there is hard af
I feel like having an online persona (a digital self) is becoming more and more like owning an IMVU or second life avatar. You modify and transform your digital self into a perfect version of your real life self, and you use this fake self to represent you online. For me, this is pretty similar to having a fake avatar on one of those life simulation online!
Interesting comparison!
i agree but i also think that comparison just goes to show how unattainable these images are, which people naturally compare themselves to without the understanding that it is an 'avatar'
black mirror 🤯
literally half if them look like imvu characters
that's some black mirror shit
I’m sorry but... you’re such a Ravenclaw
tiffanyferg Well I’m not mad about that because that’s the best House BUT the way you make all that research about these topics and are so curious and get lost in your own thoughts and shit really reminded me of Ravenclaw. My bad 💛🖤💛
@@nani-cb1xt i love how the heart emojis represent hufflepuff LOL
Wooo hufflepuffs in the house
you say that like it's a bad thing. Ravenclaw everyday!! And yes I am actually Ravenclaw, and no not because my name is Raven (also yes, that is my legal parent-given name)
Haha I thought the same - just another Ravenclaw 😂
I find it really strange that people separate Facetune from Photoshop, as though Facetune is less harmful..."Photoshop" is just the name of a photo editing program -- Facetune is a photo editing app. They're doing the exact same thing, but Facetune provides a more direct-to-consumer product specifically to distort ("enhance") portrait photography. If anything, Facetune is more problematic than Photoshop because is so user-friendly and doesn't require any sort of learning curve, so users are seeing the direct change between their real self and their "beautified" self, which absolutely exacerbates body dysmorphia compared to seeing models/celebrities who are shot and edited professionally.
kuro-tan yes!!!! Exactly I'm sick of reading all the comments trying to act like they are NOT THE SAME. Also face tune is worse like you said.
Photoshop is just for professionals (or like, people with more money lol bc that shit is expensive) and has like 1000 other things it's used for. Especially in advertising etc. Facetune was literally only created to tune your face, like the name says, wasn't it? Of course people could still do the workaround of sending their selfie to a computer, opening Photoshop on it, doing the exact same thing to their body, and uploading the result on their phone again, but that's so many more steps you don't need when you have Facetune … sadly! It's way too easy to use it seems (I wouldn't know bc I don't use it)
(Idk if this gets through but I agree with you! I hope it doesn't sound like I don't … I just want others to understand haha)
@@DasDudu thanks haha that's basically what I was trying to say but I ended up sort of word-vomitting...
@@che_gozira omg no i think you said it very well haha
You could do this with any free art app in the App Store. I could do this with my free sketchbook app I have on my phone right now.
I think it’s boring tbh. Everyone trying so hard to look perfect for “the sake of art” as James Charles says is immature. I much rather see people with all shapes and sizes skin tones, “imperfections”. It makes us human an unique!
Amby I agree! I don’t consider facetune beauty. I think that imperfections ARE beauty.
Agreed. I used to edit my photos to oblivion. I still do edit them - male colours pop more etc and I always whiten up my teeth and white of my eyes cos they a little yellow lol but I’m a smoker and on heavy meds and my teeth and eyes look like shit. But I used to smooth out everything and now I’m like fucking whatever I’m a mum of two, i look tired, whatever. I’ve never edited my body though I wouldn’t know how although I would smooth out my legs sometimes blur my scars and stuff and im over that now lol i have scars and imperfections and stretch marks and I’ve battled an eating disorder for ten years and I’m DONE trying to look ‘perfect’. I’ve got rid of so many people I followed on IG and replaced them with body positive perfectly imperfect people and ACTUAL art. It makes my feed way nicer and I feel better going on there now.
You see that everyday.
Agreed. How can it be art if there's no creativity involved? The goal is predetermined to be perfection. Each time you do it is the same task.
I just don’t like when people are claiming to be a makeup artist but they have to facetune the makeup 🙄🙄
James Charles ??
@@justme3846 nobody claimed that he was facetuning it on. the issue comes with decreasing texture, harshness, blurring the skin etc which is does do...sis
@@justme3846 maybe it shows how nicely he applied his makeup instead of using face tune to make it look better
@@justme3846 you actually can get rid of texture completely using face tune
@@justme3846 but that wasn't your point lol that was my point.You just said it doesn't make him less of a makeup artists but it kinda does if he's not showing the true product
james charles looks like a robot in some of his instagram pics. He facetunes himself way too much
Sv Vr also the fact that he gets nervous when the lighting isn’t good. Like damn, people are being subjected to always having to be in perfect lighting because THEY will notice the imperfections on them that most people won’t notice.
i always think in his thumbnails he looks like someone did makeup on a ken doll, he looks like his face is fake lol
he says he likes that, it's the style he is going for, if he didn't liked he wouldn't even do it, please watch his videos where he talks about facetuning. plus he even facetuned his viewers in a video, as the style he goes for. IS NOT ABOUT LOOKING "NATURAL". YOU CAN DU THE F YOU WANT JUST LIKE MAKEUP
@@pedofragilistico4837 that's not the point. He said he even edits his hair line because he doesnt like it. Also changes his face shape. This is when you go too far with facetune. Its not just smoothing ur face or whatever, if you have to change ur bone structure in every photo you've got a problem
He looks incredibly ridiculous when he facetune! Like a damn doll with a huge mouth!
I'm slowly quitting almost all social media to protect my health
Edit: I love the positive vibes here :D
I deleted my Twitter, Goodreads, Instagram, Snapchat, Pinterest and LinkedIn. I only use Facebook to contact distant family now. And only go on Tumblr to talk with some friends. I'm pretty happy with the direction I'm going.
I already have deleted all. I only use TH-cam and whatsapp.
Only youtube now myself.
Yes!! I did this for my mental health, and it has been incredible. I’m glad you’re taking that step too. I keep TH-cam and Reddit because the only things I see are the things that I seek out. Social media is seriously wrecking certain aspects of society.. I do think you’ll enjoy being a little less “plugged in” :)
@@jazminevaughan3177 thank you and everyone for the very supportive commends 😊 i wasn't born in the midst of social media and thus never really understood instagram and snapchat etc.
I hardly use most of my accounts and only to update life events or to talk to distant relatives.
I want to delete snapchat bc I dislike it but taking that step is a bit scary because everyone I know uses it and I don't want to isolate myself.
I want to say goodbye to my Goodreads account too because it's one of those things were you just constantly compare your reading to others.
i'm only left with youtube and pinterest but i do dissappear from them for a month or so
Thank you for adding how this can impact people with body dysmorphia.
yes.
Exactly. Also nice to see another Audra!!
I deleted my Instagram a week ago. It is so toxic and detrimental for our mental health. I worry about the children growing up with this being the norm, and I am so worried for my own daughter and what reality will be like when she is older. So scary.
same, i literally hate being on there. unfortunately, it kinda is like the facebook of my generation
I deleted in December because the holiday season had people posting so much and so happy and perfect and that made me extremely uncomfortable and a little sad. Deleting the app was the best decision I've ever made.
(twitter too, people are extremely toxic there)
Kirky Instagram is literally the worst and most toxic form of social media
I deleted it a year ago and my mental health has never been better
I deleted mine last summer and it was the best thing I've ever done??
Dude so weird I was going to discuss this too! Awesome topic!
I'd still love to see you make a video on this topic!
READY TO GLARE please still make it! I love your videos!
Please still discuss it though 😭
Yes! Please still make a video!😍😍
Hey ready to glare glad to see you here I love your videos 💕
The ad that came up before this video was literally from Facetune... Damn
DriaOnLife Smith
I just got the same ad 😂
yup, same here
I got the same ad djsjdjdjd
Resist the temptation!
I got a mobile money loan ad. Broke.
i think another big thing about gen z’s relationship with social media is they never really got the chance to just look like kids, everything now has to be seen as perfect or on trend that it almost seems like they wouldn’t post a cringy picture just for the fun of it. they have an even more unrealistic standard of beauty (18-20years old) when they’re 12
I'm apart of gen Z, I'm 15 1/2, and yeah the examples we have are sooo toxic. Especially Instagram. But trust me I had my awkward middle school phase... Now I'm just going through that awkward Highschool phase
agreed
París Arts glad to know I’m not the only one 😅
Hmm
París Arts its true, you can surround yourself with other people that dont necessarily follow the norm but its so much harder to escape from those beauty standards imposed by society, and if you think about it kids dont necessarily have to be “”pretty”” (by beauty standards i mean), kids are just supposed to be kids that do and dress however they like bc that brings them happiness! not bc they are pressured by their peers to look like a template that society made
I think the people who are trying to normalize this don’t realize how hypocritical it really is. You can’t say everyone’s beautiful how they are, no matter the shape, color, size, etc... but then turn around and change major aspects of themselves via facetune. It’s putting a message out there that how they themselves are isn’t good enough, so why would you trust them when they say you’re enough? Furthermore, it’s negatively reinforcing a new cultural norm that, as you said, isn’t attainable. If everyone is photoshopping their waists, but VERY few people actually have those waists, it’s like we’re creating a false sense of perfection to idolize that really doesn’t even exist outside of social media.
Ah I could rant forever but loved this vid!!
Melody Schnapp i think a lot of people say 'everyone is beautiful' over and over to try and convince themselves they are but deep down they know they don't fit the standard of beauty that is currently in place and feel the need they have to change to do that.
I always sit there and tell myself 'beauty is subjective' and somedays im okay, i think yeah i look real good, but other days i will go through Instagram and know that a lot of people won't find me attractive because i dont look like kylie jenner, or sommer ray or whoever i think its hard trying to convince yourself you are beautiful when you have no evidence, which then turns you to social media looking for validation starting the cycle all over again. I know ive definitely become more insecure over the years than when i was younger which is strange because you are supposed to be most insecure when you are a young teen, but the more i use Instagram to catch up with people who went away to uni the more i see my own self love disappear
Rowankeenanx3 you make such a great point! It’s interesting how a lot of cosmetically enhanced individuals are beginning to all look alike. When I used to have Instagram (I deleted it several years ago when I began my neuropsychology program. I realized how poorly it affected my mental well-being) it was so strange to see so many girls looking alike. I feel like hearing “everyone is beAutiful” is a cop out, because we’re no longer celebrating our unique differences... we’re striving for one checklist of beauty that most girls don’t have without procedures or facetune. It’s creating an unhealthy image of perfection.
I totally relate to what you said about some days feeling great and other days feeling low. Social media is so powerful and because of its consuming nature, it feels more important than it actually is. I hope you’re feeling beautiful today!!
I dont edit pictures because i want people to recognize me when they see me
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@Nikoab me too. Just for pimples and use good angles. But I love good makeup so I rarely need to even for pimples. I'm aging so I don't like to retouch pictures. other wise in person I just look older, and more tired.
Yes! I actually kind of experienced this with a former friend irl and it honestly was so shocking and weird. My friend showed me a picture of this former friend that was unedited because she took it on her phone. The former friend posted her own edited version of this photo on her FB, and she had made herself look 30-40lbs lighter easily. Like... ??? Why. I don't get the point. Like we SEE YOU in real life how you REALLY are, you aren't fooling anyone.
The only thing I’ll ever do is put a filter to enhance the background. But I use to use Facetune when I had extremely bad acne, and it just made me feel worse about myself, I never wanted to take photos because the thought of editing was in the back of my mind.
I don't so people think i look better in person. 100% works everytime.
when i was anorexic (still recovering atm tho) i'd look at fashion pages and "thinspo" . i thought it was healthy and okay to look so thin. if i knew it was fake it would've put less pressure on me. i had body dysmorphia and actually thought i was fat, i obsessed over my thighs and stomach.
The thigh gap thing got me wild, I had a pro ana tumblr and had so many quotes on my phone like "a minute on the lips is years on the hips" I'm almost glad about this "slim thicc" thing because it made me not so worried about not having a thigh gap. Its crazy that tumblr kinda normalized that stuff. I was never even fat, just not as skinny as "tumblr girls".
Yeah I went through anorexia thinking not eating and being super skin was normal. I would get happy when we discuss Anorexia in health class and seeing all the films about anorexia because it inspired me more. I’m in my recovery period and I truly feel like I’ve fully recovered because I’m on a weight gain journey but I do get those moments where I miss my super flat stomach
Omg this. Looking back I was severely underweight and genuinely thought I was fat. And not just in a “oh I’m not as skinny as I want to be” way like no I thought I was FAT. It’s so crazy being able to look back now at how warped my self perception was
@@maddylovesbooks the whole slim thick thing is just as bad though. They're photoshopped to hell too and now we're expected to be big everywhere while having a tiny waist and stomach
@@brittanytaylor3261 Im not sure how much this is related to media tbh. I had that twice in my life and looking back it had everything to do with how I felt and who were the people I interacted most with, what messages I was getting about my body from the people I cared about and trusted, especially since the people I did like their bodies in the media for me were always the thick sporty types :) And since people in this comment section were in recovery for anorexia, you guys know anorexia is about taking control, very little to really do with body image. And please dont take this the wrong way, Im not saying that media doesnt affect us or doesnt have a role in it, im just saying we historically tend to give media a lot more power in conversations than it actually has cause its a clear way of talking about it.
I'm a Gen Z, born 2000, had a flip phone tho, but still, I totally agree that my generation is affected much more than even my 24 yo sister. Being 18 now, I can't imagine posting an unedited picture (no facetune, just simple editing, but still) and am always in shock whenever she sends pictures with no makeup on. I get the feeling that even around family I tend to try to look perfect, kinda scared of looking bad. In front of my own family! Growing up on social media these days can really mess with you, even if you're aware of it all. Great content, thank you so much for making me rethink all of that again.
blackmoony Imagine living in the 1950s though. Everyone had to be even more perfect. You weren’t a perfect Christian Women/man, you were basically institutionalized or excommunicated from your family
Even though Photoshop hasn't been around forever, doctoring photos since the near invention of them are common, and has existed since the popularity in the Victorian ages. I suggest looking at a video by Karolina Żebrowska, where she explains about it.
th-cam.com/video/ZXbcPgfiB0Q/w-d-xo.html
@@tokyo-toaccess6438 I adore Karolina! Thanks for the suggestion!
Breanne Dixon wow thats so weird right? tbh i am too afraid to completely delete my social medias bc i DO think that if you use It wisely it can become a nice tool to help you grow, learn new things, meets new people etc so from some time now ive been unfollowing a lot of creators and people in general that i feel like are not real or advertise toxic ideas, allowing only people that i believe to be inspiring, talented and that can add something for me, but in the most real way possible
I also only post unedited photos now, it really helps with the body dismorphia thing
Legit the same
James Charles insta posts look NOTHING like he does irl😭 like dude if you’re gonna be a makeup influencer don’t edit your makeup looks and tell people to check out the video on your channel, total bull
He uses live filters on his videos too! When he's doing his makeup and his hand goes in front of his eyes his face will glitch. James Welsh explains it in a video
I find his edited pics horrible tbh, he looks so cute irl.
Creators straight up editing in new bone structure (not just covering zits, discoloration, wrinkles) is unnecessary and so bizarre.. most of them already have at least some kind of cosmetic surgery so it just doesn't make sense to me.
But it's prolly healthier to take a face-tuned version of you to your cosmetic surgeon as an idealised target point than a photo of this or that celebrity and their bone structure that is unattainable because it has no bearing on your face.
@@mischa2643 wanna know what's healthier? Accepting yourself and not getting any surgery.
Sarah Barabe yeah, yeah it is, but if a trans woman wants facial feminisation or someone with bdd wants to be a little comfier in their skin, I can only see bringing the doc an attainable goal as a good thing. If you walk in with a realistic expectation-unless your underlying bone structure is very much like X celebrity's, you won't look like them when you've healed, regardless of how many photos of them you brought your surgeon-you're less likely to still be in a dysphoric place when things are all healed up.
i'm a gen z kid and i have resisted joining instagram or snapchat for exactly those reasons. i have a lot of body image issues, and have since i was younger, and they're slowly getting better. i am NOT about to trade recovery for the possibility of an expanded social network tbh
Same.
Same. My frinds don't really get it tbh. They think I'm sick and I have major problems and should go to therepy. But I'm actually fine. I feel better now that I'm off social media....
Completely off topic but your makeup in this video is bomb
I was just thinking this! I'm dying to know what she used
Talking about body disorder triggering and not looking at things honestly. I'm sorry, but it's just a question of where you draw a line
She used facetune for video! It’s fake!
*sees title* finally someone is gonna comment on this
Catta Bonata queen I love your icon so much
Seriously. I see so many celebrities doing it like it's normal and it weird
Catta Bonata people have been for a while
It sucks being a Gen Z teen. I’m 15 F and I’m so hyper aware/critical of my appearance online and in real life and sometimes it gets to the point where I cry when I look in the mirror.
Edit: thank you guys for all your nice comments. I usually don’t feel like people don’t care about me unless I’m on the verge of suicide and it’s really nice to not feel that way :)
Meme Dreams oh honey no I know how you feel I bet you that you are more beautiful then you think
You don’t have to look like a Kardashian to be pretty.
achooe I don’t want to look like them sjsjjdkf
@@memedreams8558 ik but im just saying that because they seem to set a pretty unrealistic standard of beauty
achooe yes they do
When I was young I used to looove editing my photos but it was with lighting, blurring, contrast and saturation
same haha i would like get make up apps and put like a ton of makeup on my picture, it was so fun!
same!!! like i used to take pictures on my nintendo dsi of the flowers in my front yard and put filters on them lol
amber i had Youcam makeup and i would put fake make up on my face, change my eye colour yada yada. It was very fun and i only did it for fun and not cos i was insecure
i do that!
hey this is awesome
Sarah Baska ilyyy 🤙🏾🤙🏾
Sarah!! Hi :) I like your videos a lot, they’re pretty great
SARAH
wow didnt think sarah could get any cooler n now i see she watched dis
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I'm an older millenial (31) and totally agree that Gen Z is being hit hard by the facetune/instagram. It makes me sad to think that an idealized image is becoming the norm; not just for celebrities but for regular folks. I live in LA and everywhere I go I see copies of the same face. Plumped up lips, contoured make up etc. Bring back variety in appearance! There is no one size fits all in beauty!
I think it's not just Gen Z but the younger millennials too (early ish to mid twenties).
Shoutout to the dude who wanted to hook up with me, but I declined. After that, called me 'a six'. When I asked "so you don't think I'm attractive?" he said "yes, you are very pretty. But look at these libanese porn models. They're proper 10s". He then showed me pics of women that barely even looked like real people because everything about them was fake or touched up (to a toddlers and tiaras headshot degree) and I'm like.. Wauw. Okay. Yeah, no wonder, man.
I just can't believe how people find fakeness so attractive. I can't wrap my mind around it because I feel like natural men and women are so much more authentic and therefore more beautiful.
Wow, he sounds like...a keeper. Sounds like you dodged a bullet there.
I'm glad you get rid of that idiot. You deserve better girl.
I've always loved make up and I'm pretty very good at it. But since 2-3 years ago when the "porn star ultra fake" make up trend took place people say me things like "you are very pretty but your make up is very simple" "why don't you use fake lashes or more contour" and I say I love my skin and the natural look I don't want to go out with a cake frost over my face. And I've have an idiot ex boyfriend who told me that i have a great body but that my boobs were very small. Thanks to this trend men want pornstars not a classy, simple or minimalistic look in a woman. And the sad truth is that women want to look like pornstars
Right?! It’s also sad to see so many women on social media degrade and cheat themselves trying to capitalize off of posting photos of over sexualized, fake versions of themselves. I can’t imagine how damaging that must be to your happiness and mental health
@@Jennifermarie493 They're basically adding to the problem. It's really sad, indeed.
@@princessirulancorrino4695 this is so true. More power to you for going for your own look! People like Kylie Jenner have really brought back the whole faker than fake look. Well, too bad for those men then. I'm gonna be who I am with my simple liner and mascara. If that isn't enough, they can go for their libanese pornstars and women with their fake, huge breasts and asses and lips. Good luck.
Im really sorry to hear that an ex BOYFRIEND had the nerve to tell you such a thing. The asshole that told me I wasn't enough, was barely a friend of mine. But it must hurt far more when it's someone so close to you saying that. I sometimes believe that many men have no idea what a simple remark like that can cause with a woman. They have no idea what it feels like to be rejected based on looks, while the whole world keeps telling you looks are what's most important in a woman. Besides, why do so many men and women feel entitled to call out things about someone else they don't think are perfect? Who are they, God? Women should stand together instead of tearing each other down as well. We're all in the same boat.
You sound like an intelligent woman and girl, don't let some piece of shit drag you down.❤️
Honestly I aspire to be like you in that ... your impact is so profound. For someone over 10 years younger than me but so wise and intelligent and well spoken, it’s inspiring. It makes me want to use my platform for good.
ah kimbyr! so happy to see you here and spearheading a good message
Well said
This did age well
I usually use Facetune for the saturation; defocus, and whitening tools to edit the colors and backgrounds of my photos. But I also find myself using it to smooth my skin and “fix” my jaw, and I have to stop myself before I go too far. I think a little bit of editing is ok (like hiding acne, etc) but it definitely is damaging to easily create an unattainable version of yourself within minutes.
J O R I N lmao at least I don’t have your ugly personality
J O R I N Are you really hurting that much inside, you want to hurt others too? That doesn’t work dude. In fact, being kind to others is a lot better method to finding your own happiness.
panicatdx
because most acne is temporary. sometimes, people with generally clear skin may have a random pimple appear and not want that in a photo. i’m assuming she’s meaning that kind of acne, and not the more severe side of acne scarring, which is less temporary
same for make up here.. dont edit your face too much or you wont love the real one anymore. this doesnt apply to anyone but at least for me and a few it does. underline your beautiful features and "imperfections" and love them for what they are ♥
your gorgeous !
I haven’t used facetune but I have felt the effects from Snapchat filters! Ever since I downloaded the app I hate taking selfies without a Snapchat filter. Prior to me having the app I loved taking selfies with no filters or editing. It has really changed the way I perceive my face. (I’m trying to take more pictures without a filter and get used to seeing my real face again.) People even have surgeries to look more like their Snapchat filter face!! Obviously it’s very toxic :(
Great video!
jamie ikr i love how my face looks when i have the dog filter it sucks
I have the same thought .. ❤️✨
the dog filter makes my big nose look smaller. I uninstalled Snapchat 2 years ago.
Me too. I stopped adding the filters and it’s really helping me as of late
I used to do the filters in 2016 but later on i don’t use it anymore because i love my face a little bit more (improving angles and such things like that) 😅
You should be a technology teacher in highschools. Social media is no longer just cyber bullying, it's created a cycle of bullying between you, yourself, and the screen. Maybe in the future you could create a program with this lessons to pitch to schools??
rowyal media literacy at the jr high/high school is so important & I’ve been baffled that it’s not compulsory
I have such a love hate relationship with social media. I want to go completely off grid because of things like facetune and FOMO and social media addiction and anxiety, but I also love using it to stay in touch with loved ones and getting to enjoy this type of content from creators I love.
Since deleting my Instagram though I’ve noticed such a massive weight off my shoulders. And I’m trying to be more mindful about how I use Facebook and TH-cam and Snapchat, which are the platforms I do love using.
this is awesome we should all delete our social medias. can you imagine how different the world would be?
Social media makes me feel like a deformed thing, like troll under a bridge.
I only use Instagram to look at animals and art! it's fun :)
A friend of mine, she makes her jaw much sharper and body much slimmer when she posts photos BUT she's....already so damn beautiful without it. I just really wonder what her motive is.
Society's beauty standard.
Probably because she doesn't think she is as pretty as she is. We're our own worst critics.
it's phycological and very hard for someone else (anyone except the person in question) to understand
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@@patricew.4010 but people don't really express their expectations and leave it to the media to force their standards on people!
i deleted my instagram 6 months ago and i’ve never looked back. my grades at uni have improved tremendously because i wasn’t using it to procrastinate, along with my confidence also improving!
Violet Verdict i never said my grades WERE failing. procrastination is what prevented me from achieving my potential.
It’s so weird being my age, 25, and having seen social media grow from its infancy to what it is now. In a lot of ways it’s stayed the same, from the photoshopping (all tho back then it was done very poorly haha) to the social media addiction, but it’s like everything’s increased ten fold.
same! i just turned 27 and i remember being 14 and signing up for a myspace account ~illegally~ bcus you had to be 16 at the time to sign up haha. but yes i agree, everything's just snowballed the more and more people got into social media.
SAME. so much is so rapidly changing.... and their brains aren’t even fully developed.
Yeah... Another 27 year old going on 28 and I remember the MySpace days lol
Got a Facetune 2 ad before this video even started 🤣
superholly ayee mija! Me encantan tus vídeos! Aprendí much de ti y tu consejo de español! Gracias por todooo 🤭😊
It’s crazy how even having social media can put a huge filter on the world and how we view things and reality.
Amazing video
Sara ❤❤
Much love Sara
I love this discussion. I’m a borderline Gen X-Millenial and the pressure to stay youthful in my appearance is real! I will sometimes use Facetune to smooth out some fine wrinkles I’m getting which are small but I feel a lot of women older than me completely opt out of putting ANY pictures of themself anymore (50+) because they feel they just can’t keep up with the beauty standard we place on women in our society. It’s quite sad, really.
wmnpwr98 By FaceTuning your perfectly normal fine lines you are contributing to them feeling that way about themselves though.
Than just stop using facetune. Show the real you.
Its up to you if you want to perpetuate the problem. Rejecting perfectionism starts with YOU not fixing YOUR wrinkles. You complain of the problem but you are the problem?
@@rachelright8464 it's perfectly normal to perpetuate the issues you, yourself hate. Its part of the journey.
@@selty I think you just described mental illness but ok.
Was seriously thinking about this the other day. I was mulling over whether things like photoshop and facetune might be creating something like “beauty inflation” that means a 6 by 1990’s standards would be considered a 4 now (or w/e), solely based off a subconscious standards adjustment that happened gradually thanks to technology. Like maybe we consider more irl people to be “average” or even ugly looking than we did in the pre-internet era, just because our tech has raised the threshold of attainable hotness pretty high, even if it is artificially so. Along this vein of thought, I’d love to see a survey to see how many people have been surprised by a tinder date’s real life appearance versus their photo.
Another thought provoking video, thank you.
AHH "beauty inflation" is a great way to put it
Your comment is really insightful, love the term “Beauty Inflation” as well!!
Emiliaphilia exactly! soon no real person will be considered pretty because the only attractiveness will be artificial
Great insight. I'm 44 and was a my peak in the 90s. I had an obsession with perfection then and I thank God everyday I am not young now. It's brutal. That's why the beauty industry has exploded. There was 1/5 the brands in the 90s and no Sephora or Ulta. People strive to look in real life like the filters.
Daniel Peters haha I totally agree. In the future, compliments are gonna sound like “She’s got an 8-Bit face, but the rest is a 10!”
ty for being so delicate when talking abt gen z- as someone born in 2000 it means a lot when someone doesnt shit on u for ur generation’s habits/tendencies but just talks about them nonjudgementally
I totally agree. The amount of people (millennials included) who say "oh gen z wears too much makeup at such a young age, I never wore makeup at fourteen" and its like bro, first off that's only like 1/2 of gen z teens, also if they like it, good for them, and also part of the reason we wear makeup is from famous people from older generations that we want to be like.
You guys got it lucky. The younger 2000's kids had technology and these things introduced at a younger age.
Yeah I was born in 2000 and I pretty much never wear makeup (homecoming, prom and my cousins’ weddings being the exception)
I was born in 2000, and I really didn’t start wearing makeup until I turned 18.
I'd say the worst part about facetune is how attractive and charming someone can look no matter how bad of an personality they have. I'm always shook when I find the profile of someone I dislike and they seem so beautiful and supportive online even though that doesn't represent themselves in person. Maybe the compliments get to their heads and they somehow lose touch to reality and how to treat someone.
That eyeshadow makes your eyes pop so beautifully!
Hi! Neuropsychologist here! Your part about the disconnect between reality and what people think they look like is indeed a very important part in BDD, adn in the development of BDD! There's been an increase in both BDD, anxiety disorders, and eating disorders with the rise of social media platforms. The disconnect seen in BDD is also seen in anorexia, where people continuously perceive themselves as fat, even when they have no muscle or fat left on their bodies and they literally are just skeletons with a tiny layer of skin. Therapies for anorexia have focused on breaking that disconnect, and having the patients reasess how they look (for example having to draw themselves fullscale, then lying down on the drawing and having someone trace their actual outline, to compare that disconnect). I'm not sure what the current treatments are for BDD, but I guess they are an adamptation of the therapies used for OCD because of the overlap between those disorders :)
this is a slight tangent but the way we look at and talk about skin and skincare is so interesting. we talk about having 'good' or 'bad' skin, 'clear' skin, and call acne prone skin 'problem' skin. we often feel the need to correct acne out of our photos- in part because we feel as if everybody on the planet has clear skin, because everybody edits out acne. it's a vicious ass cycle. skin is the largest organ on our body, skin does so much to protect us and heal us and yet we call it 'bad' if it produces a pimple??? idk.
All of this comes back to capitalism really. The makeup industry (when it comes to creating dewy acne free looking skin) and the skincare industry know they have to feed on people hating their own skins to make the money they need. Same goes for FaceTune and "weight loss" as a goal, this is what the diet industry has worked the hardest on. Making people believe being fat is inherently unhealthy and ugly. A lot of our views of "perfection" exist only for monetary gains of others.
Emily Kennedy oh absolutely!! I just mean that hormonal acne is demonised despite being something that most if not all people experience.
Megan I think people consider it bad, bc acne points to a health issue. It’s not healthy skin.
@@oohcomma But... If you exercise you won't be the bad-fat. It is possible to be "good"-fat but only if you're built that way. I mean, we all are different. (Not counting medical stuff!)
@@reinal7896 what about ppl who suffer w/ constant acne through genetics? You're saying they have unhealthy skin?
I have never used facetune but since getting snapchat and using those filters I have noticed that a picture of me I would have thought was cute a few years ago is not good enough and I feel like I'm ugly unless I use a filter to "fix it" And I'm a moderately confident 30 year old...I can't even imagine the negative impact these things in social media would have had on me as an insecure teenager😢
"Snapchat dysmorphia" is a term used in some medical journals last year. 😟
@@gretchensmith2852 I read about that too! At the time I didnt think it applied to me but lately I can see the impact its had on me....I feel so sad for these little ones growing up right now.😢
Yes! I just commented about this too. I quit using those filters a couple months ago but it was roughy at first. I don’t even turn it on now. It helps.
You are one of the most emotionally intelligent people I’ve ever interacted with, especially on the Internet. I so appreciate how much work you put into researching and presenting a controversial topic. Thank you
I feel like there is a double standard about editing how we look in photos. I also grew up in a time where magazines were criticized for editing the people (women) in them. It was fought against & industries have been changing that slowly. Remember when Aeropostalé (Aerie) made the switch? But now we've gone back to it being okay on social media because we're the ones controlling it. I feel like there's an imbalance because these two sides exist with each other rn. I hope this makes sense. It's just interesting...
When that happened I really thought things would change for the better lol now we're literally living with black mirror-esque consequences
Fun fact, Aerie is actually a sister company of American Eagle. It has no affiliation with Aeropostale!
When I was growing up, magazines got flack for touching up photos because it was seen as creating an unrealistic standard (great for marketers, since everyone will always feel inadequate, but bad for self image). With social media and apps like Facetune, now ordinary people are doing the editing too...although I don't think the motive is to sell products so much as just make the best possible impression among strangers who are unlikely to ever see them in real life.
I didn't know of face tune before and certainly didn't think people edited there bodies. As someone who is recovering from an eating disorder (I don't have body dysmorphia), this is probably a bad idea but my stupid brain couldn't resist testing it out. So I took a picture from when I was almost underweight (that was the only time I took body pictures), and made my waist a bit smaller. And there I saw how I wanted to look, I got so miserable and sick to achieve what can not be achieved cause I realized now that I just have a larger waist, even if I'm thin. Seeing myself look how I wanted, It was really triggering and I deleted the app and the photo immediately. I'm not gonna let it affect my eating but if you're in an earlier stage of recovery, please don't use the app.
@@tiffanyferg Thank you and I'm glad you made this video, it really needed to be said
Thanks for sharing.
Currently been in recovery for about three months, and I am so glad I never got into this kind of thing. My body image/comparison was (is, tbh) terrible enough without it, and I can't imagine how bad it could've felt, especially since even the images in this video were triggering. Hope you're doing well!
Thank you so much for talking about it. I'm so tired of huge fake lips, huge fake hips, huge fake boobs, white strike on the cheek as highlighter, tiny fake nose, tiny fake waist that makes me feel like I'm ever good enough. It's at a point you can't tell influencers apart. Watching this video is giving me hope that something might actually change one day or another. But please do talk about surgery because that's a massive issue on Instagram. I see 19 year old influencers with overdone lips who give botox sessions away in their stories and...no. I've seen people who couldn't manage to become successful on IG who decided to have their lips done to attract more people AND IT WORKED ?
Eye roll at “Kardashian body” we all know who they’re really trying to emulate.
I'm white and have super wide hips and a small waist in comparison. I'm still super tall for a woman though (a little over 5'11'') so it's not the "ideal" but it's funny how something I used to be shamed for as a young teen, when tiny hips were IT, now is being idolized. I've always been very attractive to guys though... Must be a biological thing when you have obvious-looking child-bearing hips lol.
Edit: but, for real, I'm one of the whitest white girls you'll ever meet lol. It's not exclusive to black people is all I'm saying.
No Name actually African women are generally more bottom heavy. Their breasts are actually generally really small, except when people are obese.
White women have the biggest boobs in average.
@@Lilliz91 LOL.... I believe you😂🤣🤣🤫🤔😂
Thank you! It’s annoyingly hearing Kim K and Kardashians when they just trying to look Ethnic.
Even Black Women do not have those bodies. Their bodies are incredibly plastic. Show me a Women who has a natural hour shape that doesn't have bigger thighs to match. I have a natural hour glass shape and yet I still get insecure because of my thighs. I see "Instagram models" with my shape BUT super skinny thighs. Or Women with bigger perky breast (which i know is possible) but it's natural to have some sag. I get incredibly insecure. How is that even possible to have this "Instagram body" without surgery or photoshop?
It’s also really unhealthy in general for people to be that obsessed with their own beauty. People have cared how they looked in pictures since the camera was invented, but constantly projecting and curating an image of yourself as if you have some responsibility to be attractive is poisonous to a happy life.
You should definitely do those other videos you talked about! Good stuff.
not only since the camera. since the beginning of time. why else do people (especially edwardian) fake tiny waists? for their image. i believe it was since the beginning of time.
@@missimperfectlyfine7 this is true. But we are talking about normal, middle class society in the past century or two.
Or even decades.
Even people started to be obsessed with looks when mirrors became a thing. Having cameras and editing programs have made this issue even worse.
Also, to give you another perspective, I’m a teenage gen-z. I totally agree with you and when I joined Instagram I found it was so toxic to me both with body image and I started to want to go places not to have fun there or do something but to post it and that Is so messed up to me so I gave up my phone altogether for six months and now only use TH-cam and Pinterest. It was terrible and even before I used social media when I was eight I was obsessed with “fitness” (in quotes because fitness shouldn’t be about starving yourself and disordered eating) I made a list at age eight of the exercise I forced myself to do for different snacks I ate even if they were healthy or nutritious. And that was only with the photoshop I saw in magazines and people in movies, I can’t imagine younger kids. Both of my two sisters and I have had trouble with eating disorders and I think a lot of that has to do with social media
Hey congratulations on getting through ED, that's huge 💖
Sammmmmeeeeeeeee 💕
tbh i just edit my photos to make them look closer to what i see in the mirror, cameras on phones can distort things
Megan Thompson in the mirror i look alright. On my phone i look ugly af. Camera phones are weird
true
Its the 3mm focal length,portrait photographers tend to use 85mm at the very least to avoid distortion.phone cameras distort the hell out of the image.
I like myself in the mirror but on photos I look like the literall hunchback of notredame, I always get depressed when photos are taken and tressure the few photos I look ok on and I keep asking myself if the mirror reflexion or the photos are what I actually look like. Then I remember that I am never actually gonna see myself because it's physically impossible and I get creeped out.
The snapchat camera is the best. Front lense cameras are weird.
I'm too lazy to use face tune tbh. I might add a filter but other than that, the public is getting what they get when it comes to me😂 plus I think a lot of people look like actual aliens when they facetune their photos. I think it's sad that people feel the need to do this to themselves and I hope this changes soon:/
instagram is so toxic, whenever I see a photo of someone looking impossibly gorgeous and i scroll through the comments, there are people who are like "i want to be as pretty as you" or "can i be you". idk if they're joking but if they're not that's just really upsetting. sometimes social media advocates impossible perfection that no one can achieve instead of showing people body positivity and acceptance
I also wonder if those comments are real…. Like i wonder why dont people say truth???
i hate how people are normalizing this, how everyone says to love yourself but then face tune every single pic. i used to face tune my pics and that’s honestly when my self confidence was lowest because what I saw on social media wasn’t what I saw in the mirror. I’m not face tuning anymore and I am starting to feel more confident in myself :) but I also get slight edits to make an overall pic look better for the a e s t h e t i c Lolol
As someone with diagnosed body dysmorphic disorder, looking at facetuned pictures of myself is more triggering for me and has prompted me to consider cosmetic surgery almost compulsively
largely because of the fact that there's an even bigger disassociation between what i see and how i perceive myself to look
As someone who has BDD and has used facetune in the past, I can tell you that for me at least the answer to your question is no. I could edit myself to look like a whole new person and that still wouldnt be enough, there would always be someone else who sets the bar higher and higher that I would never reach
11:10 I have anorexia and honestly, every time I hit a goal weight or lost weight in an area that bothered me, my goal weight would change and my perception gets worse. You never like what you see
i hope you are ok and doing well.
fun fact: we are part of a crossover generation. I'm 20 and I don't fully relate to either one, not that anyone does. But, we aren't considered really either because the years aren't defined.
It honestly depends on the life you were living. I'm 27 going on 28 and some of the things that people 20-23 are things I can't really relate with but that's just one personal example. I do think it's true that people born towards the late 90s are kind of in a crossover as they were experiencing a bit of the tail end of the mid 00s.
@Periwinkleeyes70 I think you mean Xanga? The website right? lol I remember back in the day a friend said I should make a profile there and when I did, I only spent like 2 days on it because I was so preoccupied with other things. But I was actually more into MSN Messenger & Yahoo Messenger. Oh and AIM... Man I feel old... lol
@Periwinkleeyes70 Ah I see lol Yeah I remember signing up for a Xanga account when I was in the 7th grade but yeah, I was way more hooked on MSN Messenger during those days. That and a bit of MySpace (I actually wasn't on it as much as some others were, only checked it once every few days except on like Fridays where I'd browse a little longer lol)
Same, I'm 19 and im at a very awkward stage of some people really caring and some not caring at all. I do find for me though that Instagram has made me far more insecure than i used to be. It does make me feel ugly even though i know it shouldn't matter
Gen Z is from 1995 -2010 or 2012. You were either born in 98 or 99. You are Gen Z. There is no "crossover group" because there are people who are older who are Gen Z like people who are 23 or even 24. You arent a 90s kid. You're a 2000s kid. Its really not that hard to understand. You are *definitely* not a millennial. You are just on the older end of the Gen Z. Digital Natives. All generations have a starting point and youre a part of it. People born on 1982 wont be exactly like those born in 92 but they are the same generation. Millennial. Works the same way for Gen Z. Youre thinking of little kids born in 2010 but most Gen Z people are in the tweens or teens. The young are like 8 or 9. Thats only a 10-12 year difference from you. Thats not far at all. Just seems that way singe when you are young, development is starkly different but when they are 32 and you 42 its not that big of a difference.
I used facetune just once and it made me incredibly uncomfortable. Looking at an uncannily edited version of yourself that you're meant to "like better" creates such an off putting cognitive dissonance. I can't judge others for using it, but I don't think it's something I want in my life or something I want to promote on my social media accounts.
Alice Dayton same ! Ive used it only once to make my teeth whiter and it just didnt seem right at all, so I deleted this picture. I dont understand people using facetune because I just dont feel comfortable using an edited pic of myself, it always feel weird
Exactly.! I once asked a friend to edit my photos to have a better background and she ended up slimming my body as well. It's was subtle, but I felt so sick seeing the image. I felt fake even looking at that slimmed down version of myself, and I.m not that overweight to begin with! I felt the exact same thing you described.
As someone who currently edits their photos with facetune, After watching this I’m completely shocked. Ive been using it for years. And recently while looking into the mirror I have become more and more distant with who I truly am. I have literally tricked my mind and eyes into believing I actually look like my pictures. And now, While looking in the mirror a state of depression and confusion take over. And its even worse because I AM TRANSGENDER. So it makes me feel like I NEED facetune. Because if not I will look to manly. With that being said, I haven’t taken pictures recently. Im deep in the rabbit hole. One day I will pull myself out. -Tessa.
Baby I'm sure you are beautiful inside and out, don't let fake standards make you believe otherwise. We as woman need to accept and love ourselves, hard as it is in the society we live in. You can do it ❤️❤️❤️
like iris said, i’m certain you’re really beautiful. i hope u can get out of it, remember you’re not alone in this!!
I feel you so much sis😣
please follow women on ig (cis and trans♡) that look like you. trust me, it helps.
I'm trans too and after discovering facetune I find it hard not to feminize my jaw for pictures.
I for one have never used face tune. Because i don't know how to.
the midimalist same
Me too. Because I don't want to.
Me too sis, me too...
"still feels weird to say i’m 23...wow i’m an adult i guess" ugh mood
im 24 :////
pinkskies21 *hugs*
Ughh I’m turning 22 in less than a month and I’m not ready to be a “real adult”
just turned 22, feels weird man
A thread full of people of my age. Loving this
I don't know if you had seen this, but James Charles actually did a video where he facetuned one of his fans photos. Obviously the fan consented and was a willing participant, but I was still quite shocked. At first I felt it rude to take a photo of someone else and fix what he(?) deemed imperfections. Second I found it crazy that he would send out a message like that and would be teaching his young fans how to facetune. This is where it goes beyond the fact of someone doing it for themselves but it actually effecting others. I enjoy James Charles but this kind of behavior should not be encouraged and it's a little concerning. I feel like a couple of years ago there was a revolution of confronting photoshoppers and confronting the media for its promotion of unattainable beauty standards and here we are still fixing our photos. I enjoyed this video and can't wait for more!
Madison Maraspini preach!
I just wanna mention that the video in question he didn't facetune what he found to be imperfections, the fans specifically asked him to do certain parts of their face but I get your message.
All he did was make their make up brighter.....
I saw the same video (though I didn't watch it because James Charles isn't my thing) and I thought the same thing. Most of his fans are young, so surely that's sending the message to them that they SHOULD be facetuning their selfies. Ick.
Emily E B How can you judge a video you didn’t watch? In the video, James just brightens the makeup and fixes small things the girls suggested. He doesn’t massively alter their faces, but more accurately portrays the way makeup looks in real life versus through the camera. I’m not a James Charles fan, but I did watch the video because I had the same thoughts as you but didn’t want to make assumptions.
Besides beauty gurus, I wonder how dietitians and fitness gurus use Facetune? Considering diet and fitness services and equipment are much more expensive and longterm investments than a makeup palette, I'd find this very problematic.
With facetune you can edit the body shape like make stomach look slimmer,lift butt, etc.
Reminds me of Legally Blonde when the fitness instructor got liposuction 😂
I remember when I was younger (born 1999) I used to like, suck in my cheeks, I wanted more defined cheekbones, I wanted that look....now I'm an adult with an adult face and I realize that kids don't really often look that way. I thought to be pretty I had to look like girls on magazines, but kids just CAN'T look that way, they have baby fat!! I feel like thats another place the danger lies, kids want to use face app and contour and shit to look like adults but their face arent at that point yet.
I literally did the same thing, I haaaaaaaaated my chubby cheeks. My face got a little more defined around the age of 15, but my cheeks were still here. It took me a long time and lots of other people convincing me that there is nothing wrong with my face
i'm 13 and i had a similar problem in a way -- for about a year now i've noticed that i have a habit of clenching my jaw as an exercise to give myself more of a jawline. It's like a tic. Of course i'm not gonna have a bloody jawline i'm a *child* and i excessively comfort eat *what do i expect-*
When i was 11 i had this blinking tic where i just could not stop mf blinking and winking and truthfully that stemmed from me wanting "higher eyebrows" so i looked up "exercises for higher eyebrows" and one of them entailed closing ur eyes and rolling your eyes up until you can like feel the pull (hard to explain pffft), and that turned into a tic. I got mildly picked on at school for said tic and tbh if i had it in year8 and 9 as well i would have got bodied so it's a bloody miracle i sorted that shit out in time. But as you can see obsessive insecurity can cause big ass problems and unrealistic beauty standards set by shit like Facetune do *not help pfffft-*
I literally did that SAME thing
I’m 11 and have no baby fat.. my jaw is pretty strong I guess. (I’m female) sometimes people tease me and say "your face is so skinny!" I get so annoyed..
You seem to be very in tune with society, which is what we don’t see a lot of these days. There are so many people on social media who are feeding this idea of what we need to look like, and they don’t even know they’re doing it! It’s not a crime to have insecurities, which is what most of these influencers have. All they believe is that they are just editing their photos so no one else will call them ugly. But they don’t realize that the photos they share promotes this idea that manipulation is what will keep you from getting called ugly. To be so afraid of being called out for flaws and imperfections that they need to manipulate the photos to what they believe people want them to look like. But every time they get a like on their photo, it shows approval from their audience and they keep editing their photos in this vicious cycle.
but the girl who did this video manipulated her beauty countless times! so did you and so did I, we weren't born with this body we have now and damn in five minutes we wont have the same body
Heres my question, lets say a young girl uploads pics untouched and doesnt get much reaction but then she posts a pic thats been "facetuned" and receives a lot of attention and compliments... is she then going to feel inadequate and as if her real, untouched, unaltered self isn't good enough? Isnt pretty enough? And when she does begin to feel that way is it a slippery slope to body dismorphia? Does she begin to feel the need to cosmetically change herself to match the altered image believing thats all she needs to be happy when in all reality it will never be enough? ??
As a mom of a 13 yr old, and being 13 myself, albeit 18 yrs ago, and seeing 100s of images a day that made me feel inadequate, its terrifying. I grew up with 2 older brothers and heard all their friends talk about how X girl on X magazine was perfect and then would look at myself knowing i didnt measure up. It tore my confidence to shreds even though i was smart enough to know the images were altered, unfortunately my brothers dumb friends weren't haha and so their perception of what a woman is suppose to look like is so skewed and warped no real woman will ever measure up. I saw a Harvard study done in 2013, icr the name or who did it, but basically it focused on how young men ages 18-24 were shown images of real breats and cosmetically enhanced breats with implants and they showed to not only favor implants they couldn't get aroused by the natural breasts and when asked they all said "they dont look real"... so these young men have grown up being exposed to porn, pictures, magazine covers etc etc of women with either implants or heavily photoshopped breasts to the point where the altered breasts are "normal" and "real" to them that real, natural breasts look wrong.... it blew my mind, their reality is so warped... and yet we are suppose to live up to that?!? And its only getting worse...
Ps i feel rly sorry for those guys because its going to be a really lonely existence trying to find a woman who meets their "reality" because she doesnt exist in real life. No matter how much surgery one has it will never stand up to photoshop...
Storie Smith and it’s getting so much worse, young men in their 20s are having porn induced erectile dysfunction and can’t perform with a real partner. It makes the young lady feel inadequate and it just sucks all around. I used to be 100% fine w porn but now that I’ve seen how damaging it can be , and how it’s changed to become more graphic and violent, it’s a real eye opener as to the damage it can cause in guys and relationships.
It's so difficult... I post make-up photos, and I could paint the Sistine chapel on my face.... but I don't get the feedback that photoshoppers do with weaker skills. Do I care? Not really, I don't define my skill by how man people hit like...but I see how people are flocking to the farce.
Storie Smith amen Lady! You said it right 100%
@@Puglover130It's especially problematic that porn is getting more violent, the rough sex that they show is often more painful than fun for the woman and a lot of men get hurt too. You never see how they put on protection or how sore they are after doing it, it creates an image of sex that is so different from the reality that people do things wrong and feel like they're not good enough at it. It makes people frustrated and sad, it breaks relationships and blurs boundaries. I was shocked when I heard that the most popular porn on websites is rape porn, how in the world is that legal?! Research has shown that people who watch a lot of rape porn become more and more desensitized from the harm and trauma it inflicts on the victim. The classic ''she said no but afterwards she liked it so it's fine'' is so toxic and scary, I've heard too many rapists say that they thought it would be okay because online it always is... Violent sex and rape should not be depicted in porn, it's not a normal fetish. We don't spread child porn for the same reason: you can't seriously promote the content and say it's okay to get turned on by someone's suffering. If someone wants to date me, they'll have to show me their porn history. All seriousness, I can deal with a fetish or two but if you enjoy rape porn I'll send you to a therapist and we will never be together.
Storie Smith My baby sis is 12. Most of the kids in her class uses Facetune or similar (although, for the most part badly) A few of Them complained when the school put a few pictures of Them on fastelavn (Danish halloweeen) Not because the pictures where inapropriate or without consent, but because They where ‘ugly’. Most of Them where also dressed as sexy mice or nurses. So yes, it is definetly an issue. My sister is not allowed to have social media Yet, because we know how easily she gets influenced (as example wanting a product because a youtuber made an add. She legit asked for a 2k handbag yesterday, because she had been doing good in school) Her classmates for the most part has social media and Unfortunatly it has already put Them into trouble.
I think the problem with all the facetuning is that influencers are not just some models somewhere. There are many influencers that seem way more "Girl/Guy Next Door"-like compared to the Kardashians or whoever. It pressures you more when you feel that some normal person still looks perfect.
as a person who also seems to be in the millennial - gen z gap, I watched this happen and just didn't understand why it all does. I never really participated in this whole social media thing, never even started and I find all of these things believable and *wild* but ultimately unsurprising.
I’m sorry but the kardashians do not have the best body to achieve. They look... freaky in a bad way
'Freaky' is honestly my favorite adjective lol
Hannah Stahl AGREED 100%. We need to stop using them as the examples of “perfect bodies”. Especially due to the high amounts of plastic surgery they get.
Theyre spooky scary
You can't say someone has an ideal body if it's 80% fake... be it plastic or surgically altered. Sorry... I'm playing semantic jerk here 🙄
I think they have bodies that look good in photo's but bad in real life
I have BDD and I just don;t take pics cuz I hate my image soooo much. and even if i were to take pics, i wouldn't use facetune or the like because that would just kill me more :( like "this could be me but its not" :((((
i feel the same, like i already hate how i look in photos, but then editing them to make me feel better feels super fake, like the person in the photo isn't me and i would be lying to myself if i said it is, and i would be lying even more if i post it on sns
I don't think I have BDD, but I can _totally, absolutely_ relate. I refuse to be in *any* pictures and try to hide my face from other people as much as possible. Ugh.
Same
Same, but isn’t it disgusting that media/societal expectations have made it so people are ashamed of your image so much you can’t bear to look at yourself. There should be no way you -have- to look, just to be allowed to exist normally
I totally agree. The issue with the "why do you care if this person does this" is that nothing exists in a vacuum! People are so quick to defend their idols by declaring their actions are their own, but they're not, none of us exist in a vacuum.
Is it ironic that I got a FaceTune 2 ad before this video?
I got the same
Me too.
Fuck Off I somehow read the first part of your username and the second part of your comment and thought you commented “fuck too.” I was confused, to say the least.
I’d call it mostly bad/ineffectual marketing. But ironic is probably accurate also.
Bel Sheahan Hahah
A few months ago I was really into the big beauty TH-camrs and watched a lot of James Charles. It never did sit right with me though how he was so positive about facetune tough and how he said that it changes your face the same way as makeup does. I never could quite put into words why I didn't agree with that statement, but this did a great job of it. Thank you for the video!
Facetune costs on AppStore and I'm not spending money on some editing app lol. I've recently stopped using snapchat filters though. Just find some good lighting and angles tbh
Sam Xx the app Meitu to fix lighting
Isn't that only facetune 2 or premium.
ARMY ~
i definitely agree with the fact that instagram is toxic which is why i deactivated my instagram account last year.
taking breaks from instagram is always a great idea. it can really screw up my self esteem sometimes
frnk same! :(
When I would go into the bathroom I would never look at myself in the mirror Bcs I was literally disgusted and I would hate seeing pictures of myself I would get very sad. Also Instagram really affects me. I never know what Is photoshopped, so when I see girls bodies I get very tough on myself and just really insecure
Here is a thing that worked for me: for today, just look the mirror and don’t think about your imperfections, think like this “I will see this imperfection tomorrow, but today I am not”. And the next day, do the same. For some days or weeks, it is gonna be hard. After that, look at the mirror and see what you like about it. Try it, and your brain will forced to get used to it. In some weeks or months, you will start to like yourself more. Sorry my English, it’s not my original language.
Omg same. In high school I wouldn’t even look up at the mirror when I went to the bathroom.
Delete ig.
I facetuned a photo of myself once out of curiosity, I made tiny (what i thought were subtle) changes in my body & face. When I was finished and saw the two photos in comparison I was horrified at how completely different I had made myself look without realising it. haven't touched it since, it made me feel disgusted in my appearance for a long time afterwards and i couldn't help but see myself as gross, bloated and misshapen in a way I hadn't before. Not for me I guess haha
i remember reading some discussion a couple years back how preteens (10-14) are freaking experts in makeup and fashion whereas when millennials were that age, we didnt even wear makeup to post on the internet. like theres such a hyper focus on wealth/looks/perfection bcus of today's social media websites and its influencing young kids to attempt to emulate these unattainable standards. your video perfectly sums up my feelings on facetune and man. i worry about the kiddos :(
pris diaz there’s so many people in my middle school like that :(
@@seacat6048 when i was in middle school i rarely saw girls wear makeup outside of a few rare myspace selfies. i feel like it was okay to be silly and childish andweird during middle school but now kids (and girls in particular) see all this on the internet and think that they should be acting older and doing older things. i hope these kids have a mentor or parent who is there for them if their psyche ends up in a dark place due to this.
Luckily, the make up madness hasn't arrived here in Uruguay. I was born in 2000 and we used disquettes til' 2009 aprox, so I guess we are way back in time.
I wasn't even allowed to wear makeup in middle school, and now 12 year olds be doin smokey eye looks and shit for their little social studies classes. Bizarre.
pris diaz im 16 and never grew up with make up so even now i can only do masacara (literally) but i see my cousin and young 12 year old girls do full faces. Its sad they don’t even act like kids and like when i was a kid. They grew up too fast
I use Instagram but I avoid the toxicity by following people that don't just post hot photos of themselves. I follow activists, artists, and other people who post things of substance.
DimaRakesah same bro
Yes i started unfollowing a lot of people like that because it was so toxic to the point i had to take a break from ig
I miss the days when teens were allowed to have an awkward phase and the shame was put on those that photoshopped people
I agree with you it’s definitely problematic because it becomes deceitful. I don’t really have a problem with ppl tweaking very minor things on otherwise great picture. Like sometimes you squeeze your arm flab the wrong way when you know in person it looks different. But very different things to change your body proportions like your waist, your butt your face, everything. That’s just a serious lie. How do you explain yourself when people see you in person?
@keepinitreal I'm curious, would you consider and form of makeup a lie also? Or hair dye? Like what exactly qualifies as a major or minor thing?
omg your eyes are absolutely surreal i'm in love
Thanks for your work. I'm 36 years old, so I didn't grow up with face tuning etc. About 10 years ago a friend took a photo of me and she used a filter to remove any blemishes I had, when she showed me the photo I recoiled, I didn't recognise this bland, cartoonist version of myself. Suffice to say I have never embraced face tuning etc. To me, it's pointless, I grew up free of such pressure. My heart goes out to younger people who have grown up with this pressure... please know there is always the affirming option to simply present your real self. All the best, Maeve in Ireland
Maeve Carroll This is neither here or there, but i adore your name. 😊 Major name envy here (and there). Oh, also, i googled it, because for some reason i have been half-convinced Maeve means „seagull” in Gaelic, but apparently it means „she who intoxicates”, which is a hundred times better, heh. You learn something new everyday!
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I’m guilty of this. I make my self skinner and make my acne scars disappear but not that much. But this video is making me think I shouldn’t thank you 😭💕