This movie is a grand achievement- it was absolutely mind-blowing. I was sure of one thing stepping in was that nothing could outdo the high expectations I had for this movie; as a fan if anything you can only expect to be let down by the high expectations....Never in my wildest dreams did I think it was possible that Dune Part 2 could exceed those expectations...And IT DID on every level...so many times during this movie from starting sequence to ending I had to sit back and just ghasp at what I was seeing. It's incredible what Villeneuve has accomplished here...I fell like I'm going back to childhood and just witnessed a LOTR quality anthology film for the first time...This will be a defining movie! It's living proof it is still possible to make amazing films in 2024
Couldn’t agree more. This was a monumental achievement in filmmaking and is nothing short of a masterpiece. I’m still reeling after watching this film and I can not wait to get back to the theater for round 2.
Is it a Grand Achievement to run from One Plot Point to the Next. We need this guy to be the messiah. Oh yeah, tell that fanatic there you knew his dead grandmother. We need a Sandoworm. Within 5 Minutes. Check. We need Dave Battista Gone. Oh wait 2 Minutes. We need the Empire of the Freaking Universe Defeated... And the Harkonnens... I mean we are talking here about the Emperor AND THE HARKonnens. Oh wait they both gave up within 10 Minutes. Yeah Great Achievement Right There. Fanboying all day. Lord of the Rings is a Good Movie. Dune is sadly not.
@@darioscomicschool1111 Tell me you don’t know the source material without telling me lol All your complaints perfectly comport to an adaptation of the events and I could address every single one of them but I won’t bother…I’m not going to convince you that you had a good time if you didn’t like it- I never asked anyone to….just like you’re not going to convince me or make me feel bad for enjoying something fervently like a grand majority of people I showed this movie to or that make videos to point out how mine blowing this film was to them…Haters gonna hate, I feel sorry you can’t enjoy it lol
@@TheMinarus A Majority of People also Smoke and Drink. Doesn't make it good though. Just Sayin' I do not understand the Hype. And It might not be justified. Thats all I am saying. And it needs to be Said.
The best movies of all times ....Dune 1 and 2 . And the score : Hans Zimmer rules again !!! This will be the best ever trilogy for decades !!! Everything in this film is fantastic. Everything.
Great defining movies come out and then studios try to chase that by making quick cheap products to ride the wind but it doesn’t change anything ultimately
If Villeneuve's "Messiah" is to follow both the spirit and the text of the book - and who doubts it? - Pugh as Irulan will be VERY involved indeed! The dynamics between Chani and Irulan (and Paul and Irulan and Mohaim and Irulan...) will be something to behold!
He didn’t follow the spirit of the first book. Which directly impacts plot points in Messiah. It’s fine if you liked it but don’t call it a faithful adaptation. It’s Denis vision not Herbert’s. No Thufir, Chani leaving, no Abomination, giving Feyd the Gam Jabar, Baron’s death, and other things plus the time skip was too short.
@@alexmartin3143 On whether Villeneuve has been faithful to the overall spirit (its "Big Ideas", as I like to call it) of Herbert's first book or not, different people will inevitably apply different standards. Like (I believe, based on TH-cam reaction alone) most fans of Herbert's Dune, I'm not insistent on every single plot line showing up in an adaptation or on every single plot point in the book involving exactly the same set of characters: such an "adaptation" of a book as dense as "Dune" would never be made into a film because the "purist"/by-the-book audience is just too small to make that a viable business proposition. In my books (so to speak), the critical issue is whether the film uses Herbert's Dune universe to deliver the thought-provoking gut punches of the (as I see it) modern Greek tragedy - to call it an "anti-hero" story doesn't quite do it justice - that Herbert seemed to have in mind every one of the times I have read (and re-read) the books. I'm reserving final judgement until I actually see Part II (tonight), but there was nothing in Part I to suggest Villeneuve has missed the boat on that score. (BTW, I'm also a fan of Asimov's Foundation and Tolkien's universe. BOTH "adaptations" of those works for the small screen - and especially the "Rings of Power"! - fail miserably in respecting the spirit of the works they're pretending to adapt...)
Thank you for again reiterating that this is an adaptation of the second part of the first novel. Adaptation. Not the same thing note for note from the written pages. This is a film. There was an interesting interview with Denis in which he expressed his opinion that audiences are craving longer movies, bigger stories, deeper meanings, and greater ramifications of the results of those movies outcomes and character choices because we've had about 15 years of "blockbuster" films that are more about connecting points of action and maybe not as much in recent years in connecting points of choice and reverberating the results. For example, the Stark vs. Cap fallout over the notion of a "global shield" against ominous incursions from outside our Earth in the MCU films, but that kind of got less and less as the series went forward, and certainly more diluted with all the various Marvel series. Denis does a good job of bringing Herbert's visions of multiple, generations-long consequences to the screen, and what that might mean for the inhabitants of that universe. And especially if he makes, as is his desire, an adaptation of Dune Messiah for a third Dune film. The casuals are probably not going to like it as it veers from the Hollywood tropes and tracks that have been tread for several decades. You may be right about the dawn of a golden age in sci fi. I certainly experienced in real time over the last 15 or so years with a golden age of horror, including films like The Witch, Midsommar, Talk to Me, The Babadook, M3GAN, The Night House, Hereditary, Barbarian, Smile, and heck, even the more experimental Skinamarink. It's just funny to me that so many folks who spend so much money at the theater and/or on streaming subs and then ask "what good is art? what purpose does it serve?" Well, in part, it tells us who we are, better than any other medium. Because things like religion only tell you what you should be.
Hi Erik! So i never read the books or saw the original movie. I watched both Dune 1 and 2 yesterday. Now i saw the second one in an incredible movie theater. The seat i sat in rumbled along with the movie. It was pretty cool. That being said i very much enjoyed this movie. I felt it to be one of the best i have seen in awhile. Good to see u back!
I'm seeing it Thursday. But I'm curious to see what happens with Dune Messiah. That separates the men from the boys. When it came out, fans weren't so receptive to it. Think Matrix Reloaded.
A lot of the people that didn't like it were probably the people that didn't pick up on the fact that Paul isn't exactly the heroic figure that his actions and the people around him believe he is. Paul is the protagonist, but the purpose frank Herbert had for him was to show how heroic figures can do terrible things, and because Paul can see the things he must do, he becomes an extremely cynical leader. Basically, a lot of people probably didn't like the 'hero' suddenly becoming kind of a dick. There's also the fact that messiah is so much less adventurous and exciting, and mostly ends up taking place inside a city. It's definitely very different from the first book, but honestly, EVERY dune book is different from just about all the others😂 crazy as it sounds, i think that children of dune actually feels more like the first book, and the closest feeling to messiah is probably god emperor of dune. I just made that connection now and I wonder if it was intentional, having Paul and Leto both find their powers and take control, then in their next book they're both all powerful, cynical, philosophize all the time, and basically die or disappear at the end after assassination attempts. It's hard to find people who genuinely enjoy all of the dune books because everything changes so much every time
@@restitvtororbis5330 I agree with you. I think that it was just the shock of where it goes. Honestly, and I admit it's just my opinion, I believe that Dune Messiah was really the first book of the series. Basically Dune was basically worldbuilding, and setting the stage for the themes that came out in Messiah. And you know what? About God Emperor of Dune, I think there was intention behind the writing. That one's my favorite of the series btw. We both know that the series was written as a warning against heroes. I think God Emperor was the answer to the issue of heroes, that Leto II made it possible for people to live without the prescience of any hero or charismatic leader. It was like the first three raised the issue of heroes and leaders, GEOD was where the people were freed from them. So I think you're on to something there. I'm re-reading the series right now, and all those ideas are coming to me and I love it. There is always something to catch with each reading. Can't wait until tomorrow.
I think Dune and Oppenheimer have done extremely well, it is going make executives realize that people still crave authentic filmaking and storytelling. They are always interested in the bottomline, if these films make them profits they will make more of them. With an independent film production company like A24 also creating these unique artistic films that are gaining popularity this will be the new trend. This is my prediction. We will get more movies of substance coming to the big screen.
Personally I think Hollywood is usually in a pretty good place. Not to say it doesn’t have obvious big flaws. But we are still getting lots of great and good movies every year. When you’re living through a time, the bad stuff stands out. But once it’s passed, you have rose colored glasses. Just ask 20 somethings about the 2000’s and 2010’s now. Hollywood is about as good as it’s ever been, and if they’re starting to focus more on quality then great.
Lord of the Rings was a "new Dawn", never happened. Things just got worse. Hollywood got ultra greedy and the Marvel model took over and it's a woke world now. LOTR was in fact the end of a golden age of innovation that started with 2001 a space odyssey. Nolan and Villeneuve are exceptions not a trend.
Yeah I think these kind of films are lightning in a bottle moments where the stars have to be aligned for this to work. You need an absolutely passionate team , a visionary director , a studio willing to bet on such a risky endeavor and more.
The first part is going to come off a bit snarky and mean, not my intent. My intent is humour. Ah "facial acting"! Otherwise known as "acting". ... yeah, humour doesn't work when you explain that you are being humourous up front, but I enjoyed your review and without context that would have seemed - to me - to be hostile. Anyway, I think your take on this being about religion is a _little_ reductive, though it is a helpful synecdoche for the larger issue at hand - one says without having seen the movie, just an avid book reader - which is more demagoguery. While, absolutely, this is present within charismatic religions it is just as pervasive in secular experience as well. There are plenty of examples, but yknow.... keep it light. I hope that you are correct about the future of hollywood. I have my doubts, but I like the optimism! I'd rather the tools to make great looking films democratised than the hollywood system be reinforced. But your point about good stories made by passionate people is true. Cheers!
'Masterpiece' is a terribly old-fashioned and unacademic term and concept, anyways. Let's not use it at all, not with Beethoven's Fifth, not with Michelangelo's cuppola for St. Peter's basilica, not for this movie. I find it very prohibiting when it comes to describing what makes a piece of art impactful and significant. All of these works inspire awe, yet none of them should or could be meanigfully explained by merely saying they're divinely inspired. They are much more results of decade-long education and training and very hard work.
If you never play any PC game you going to enjoy those stupid knifes battles. Why they don’t make the movie in the year 750 B.C. it’s the future! All of you are missing the futuristic high tech war like Star Wars. If you play the game you realize this history it’s not about trama. Imagine fremen with not technology only knifes attacking the impire strike back? It’s impossible but Paul wisdom with his strategic master mind you get= high tech weapons against wisdom The dragons vs the tiger Muscle vs brain How Paul with guerrillas assault are able to destroy the Star Wars empire with all theirs technology. Tsu su wisdom destroying the most powerful army in the universe. But no this movie is for people that don’t know nothing about Dune they will enjoy it
How….respectfully…have you not read any of the other books or seen any of the other like SYFY adaptations etc. but you’re so confidentiality stoked on this? I agree with you, this was a great movie and 1st book (out of many) and I appreciate this adaptation for ppl who are unfamiliar W the source material... But why’d you only read the first book and stop? How can you critique Florence Pews take on a very important character positively or negatively w/o any context? Not an attack at all my dude, I swear It’s just odd to be a *fanboy* (respectfully) of Dune 2 but haven’t reached beyond this to the novels or ANY other context/content. Great review tho, take care!!!
Avatar 2 was miles better than this pile of garbage. Now a bunch of nerds can jump on the bandwagon for this crap whilst the glory of the books becomes obscured. This film sucked.
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This movie is a grand achievement- it was absolutely mind-blowing. I was sure of one thing stepping in was that nothing could outdo the high expectations I had for this movie; as a fan if anything you can only expect to be let down by the high expectations....Never in my wildest dreams did I think it was possible that Dune Part 2 could exceed those expectations...And IT DID on every level...so many times during this movie from starting sequence to ending I had to sit back and just ghasp at what I was seeing. It's incredible what Villeneuve has accomplished here...I fell like I'm going back to childhood and just witnessed a LOTR quality anthology film for the first time...This will be a defining movie! It's living proof it is still possible to make amazing films in 2024
Couldn’t agree more. This was a monumental achievement in filmmaking and is nothing short of a masterpiece. I’m still reeling after watching this film and I can not wait to get back to the theater for round 2.
@@alesele20 oh yah gonna do another IMAX viewing this weekend
Is it a Grand Achievement to run from One Plot Point to the Next. We need this guy to be the messiah. Oh yeah, tell that fanatic there you knew his dead grandmother. We need a Sandoworm. Within 5 Minutes. Check. We need Dave Battista Gone. Oh wait 2 Minutes. We need the Empire of the Freaking Universe Defeated... And the Harkonnens... I mean we are talking here about the Emperor AND THE HARKonnens. Oh wait they both gave up within 10 Minutes. Yeah Great Achievement Right There. Fanboying all day. Lord of the Rings is a Good Movie. Dune is sadly not.
@@darioscomicschool1111 Tell me you don’t know the source material without telling me lol All your complaints perfectly comport to an adaptation of the events and I could address every single one of them but I won’t bother…I’m not going to convince you that you had a good time if you didn’t like it- I never asked anyone to….just like you’re not going to convince me or make me feel bad for enjoying something fervently like a grand majority of people I showed this movie to or that make videos to point out how mine blowing this film was to them…Haters gonna hate, I feel sorry you can’t enjoy it lol
@@TheMinarus A Majority of People also Smoke and Drink. Doesn't make it good though. Just Sayin' I do not understand the Hype. And It might not be justified. Thats all I am saying. And it needs to be Said.
I absolutely loved it! Denis has crafted a cinematic achievement of the highest caliber. This is now my favorite film of all time!
The best movies of all times ....Dune 1 and 2 . And the score : Hans Zimmer rules again !!! This will be the best ever trilogy for decades !!! Everything in this film is fantastic. Everything.
We’re not in a “New Dawn”. Dune 2 is just a Diamond in a huge rough of crap.
This movie went so hard
Great defining movies come out and then studios try to chase that by making quick cheap products to ride the wind but it doesn’t change anything ultimately
The golden age can only begin if we support this film to 700m-1b at the box office
If Villeneuve's "Messiah" is to follow both the spirit and the text of the book - and who doubts it? - Pugh as Irulan will be VERY involved indeed!
The dynamics between Chani and Irulan (and Paul and Irulan and Mohaim and Irulan...) will be something to behold!
He didn’t follow the spirit of the first book. Which directly impacts plot points in Messiah. It’s fine if you liked it but don’t call it a faithful adaptation. It’s Denis vision not Herbert’s. No Thufir, Chani leaving, no Abomination, giving Feyd the Gam Jabar, Baron’s death, and other things plus the time skip was too short.
@@alexmartin3143 On whether Villeneuve has been faithful to the overall spirit (its "Big Ideas", as I like to call it) of Herbert's first book or not, different people will inevitably apply different standards.
Like (I believe, based on TH-cam reaction alone) most fans of Herbert's Dune, I'm not insistent on every single plot line showing up in an adaptation or on every single plot point in the book involving exactly the same set of characters: such an "adaptation" of a book as dense as "Dune" would never be made into a film because the "purist"/by-the-book audience is just too small to make that a viable business proposition.
In my books (so to speak), the critical issue is whether the film uses Herbert's Dune universe to deliver the thought-provoking gut punches of the (as I see it) modern Greek tragedy - to call it an "anti-hero" story doesn't quite do it justice - that Herbert seemed to have in mind every one of the times I have read (and re-read) the books.
I'm reserving final judgement until I actually see Part II (tonight), but there was nothing in Part I to suggest Villeneuve has missed the boat on that score.
(BTW, I'm also a fan of Asimov's Foundation and Tolkien's universe. BOTH "adaptations" of those works for the small screen - and especially the "Rings of Power"! - fail miserably in respecting the spirit of the works they're pretending to adapt...)
Thank you for again reiterating that this is an adaptation of the second part of the first novel. Adaptation. Not the same thing note for note from the written pages. This is a film. There was an interesting interview with Denis in which he expressed his opinion that audiences are craving longer movies, bigger stories, deeper meanings, and greater ramifications of the results of those movies outcomes and character choices because we've had about 15 years of "blockbuster" films that are more about connecting points of action and maybe not as much in recent years in connecting points of choice and reverberating the results.
For example, the Stark vs. Cap fallout over the notion of a "global shield" against ominous incursions from outside our Earth in the MCU films, but that kind of got less and less as the series went forward, and certainly more diluted with all the various Marvel series.
Denis does a good job of bringing Herbert's visions of multiple, generations-long consequences to the screen, and what that might mean for the inhabitants of that universe. And especially if he makes, as is his desire, an adaptation of Dune Messiah for a third Dune film. The casuals are probably not going to like it as it veers from the Hollywood tropes and tracks that have been tread for several decades.
You may be right about the dawn of a golden age in sci fi. I certainly experienced in real time over the last 15 or so years with a golden age of horror, including films like The Witch, Midsommar, Talk to Me, The Babadook, M3GAN, The Night House, Hereditary, Barbarian, Smile, and heck, even the more experimental Skinamarink. It's just funny to me that so many folks who spend so much money at the theater and/or on streaming subs and then ask "what good is art? what purpose does it serve?" Well, in part, it tells us who we are, better than any other medium. Because things like religion only tell you what you should be.
Hi Erik! So i never read the books or saw the original movie. I watched both Dune 1 and 2 yesterday. Now i saw the second one in an incredible movie theater. The seat i sat in rumbled along with the movie. It was pretty cool. That being said i very much enjoyed this movie. I felt it to be one of the best i have seen in awhile. Good to see u back!
I'm seeing it Thursday. But I'm curious to see what happens with Dune Messiah. That separates the men from the boys. When it came out, fans weren't so receptive to it. Think Matrix Reloaded.
A lot of the people that didn't like it were probably the people that didn't pick up on the fact that Paul isn't exactly the heroic figure that his actions and the people around him believe he is. Paul is the protagonist, but the purpose frank Herbert had for him was to show how heroic figures can do terrible things, and because Paul can see the things he must do, he becomes an extremely cynical leader. Basically, a lot of people probably didn't like the 'hero' suddenly becoming kind of a dick. There's also the fact that messiah is so much less adventurous and exciting, and mostly ends up taking place inside a city.
It's definitely very different from the first book, but honestly, EVERY dune book is different from just about all the others😂 crazy as it sounds, i think that children of dune actually feels more like the first book, and the closest feeling to messiah is probably god emperor of dune. I just made that connection now and I wonder if it was intentional, having Paul and Leto both find their powers and take control, then in their next book they're both all powerful, cynical, philosophize all the time, and basically die or disappear at the end after assassination attempts.
It's hard to find people who genuinely enjoy all of the dune books because everything changes so much every time
@@restitvtororbis5330 I agree with you. I think that it was just the shock of where it goes. Honestly, and I admit it's just my opinion, I believe that Dune Messiah was really the first book of the series. Basically Dune was basically worldbuilding, and setting the stage for the themes that came out in Messiah. And you know what? About God Emperor of Dune, I think there was intention behind the writing. That one's my favorite of the series btw. We both know that the series was written as a warning against heroes. I think God Emperor was the answer to the issue of heroes, that Leto II made it possible for people to live without the prescience of any hero or charismatic leader. It was like the first three raised the issue of heroes and leaders, GEOD was where the people were freed from them. So I think you're on to something there. I'm re-reading the series right now, and all those ideas are coming to me and I love it. There is always something to catch with each reading. Can't wait until tomorrow.
This is my new favourite film. My previous favourite film was David Lynch’s Mulholland Drive
I just watched it and I only have one word: Epic.
I think Dune and Oppenheimer have done extremely well, it is going make executives realize that people still crave authentic filmaking and storytelling. They are always interested in the bottomline, if these films make them profits they will make more of them. With an independent film production company like A24 also creating these unique artistic films that are gaining popularity this will be the new trend. This is my prediction. We will get more movies of substance coming to the big screen.
The sleeper has awakened, no werding weapons are the top of my list of things omitted from this film.
Dune messiah please 🙏
Personally I think Hollywood is usually in a pretty good place. Not to say it doesn’t have obvious big flaws. But we are still getting lots of great and good movies every year. When you’re living through a time, the bad stuff stands out. But once it’s passed, you have rose colored glasses. Just ask 20 somethings about the 2000’s and 2010’s now. Hollywood is about as good as it’s ever been, and if they’re starting to focus more on quality then great.
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Lord of the Rings was a "new Dawn", never happened. Things just got worse. Hollywood got ultra greedy and the Marvel model took over and it's a woke world now. LOTR was in fact the end of a golden age of innovation that started with 2001 a space odyssey. Nolan and Villeneuve are exceptions not a trend.
Yeah I think these kind of films are lightning in a bottle moments where the stars have to be aligned for this to work.
You need an absolutely passionate team , a visionary director , a studio willing to bet on such a risky endeavor and more.
did you mean worse
Agreed. It takes more than one or two epic masters of their craft to bring about a rebirth in film.
I loved it! Without a doubt the BEST Science fiction movie I have ever seen!!!
It was epic
I will go this saturday, ready for fun😀😀
This movie is incredible
The first part is going to come off a bit snarky and mean, not my intent. My intent is humour.
Ah "facial acting"! Otherwise known as "acting".
... yeah, humour doesn't work when you explain that you are being humourous up front, but I enjoyed your review and without context that would have seemed - to me - to be hostile.
Anyway, I think your take on this being about religion is a _little_ reductive, though it is a helpful synecdoche for the larger issue at hand - one says without having seen the movie, just an avid book reader - which is more demagoguery. While, absolutely, this is present within charismatic religions it is just as pervasive in secular experience as well. There are plenty of examples, but yknow.... keep it light.
I hope that you are correct about the future of hollywood. I have my doubts, but I like the optimism! I'd rather the tools to make great looking films democratised than the hollywood system be reinforced. But your point about good stories made by passionate people is true.
Cheers!
Mhe Gusta
lol maybe you should watch frank herberts dune tv mini series is the all time best
It’s about showing not telling lol
I detest what they did to Chani in part two. It's a disgrace.
It's an exciting film. And a technical masterpiece. But the writing was wrong.
'Masterpiece' is a terribly old-fashioned and unacademic term and concept, anyways. Let's not use it at all, not with Beethoven's Fifth, not with Michelangelo's cuppola for St. Peter's basilica, not for this movie. I find it very prohibiting when it comes to describing what makes a piece of art impactful and significant. All of these works inspire awe, yet none of them should or could be meanigfully explained by merely saying they're divinely inspired. They are much more results of decade-long education and training and very hard work.
This movie is trash
If you never play any PC game you going to enjoy those stupid knifes battles.
Why they don’t make the movie in the year 750 B.C.
it’s the future! All of you are missing the futuristic high tech war like Star Wars.
If you play the game you realize this history it’s not about trama.
Imagine fremen with not technology only knifes attacking the impire strike back? It’s impossible but Paul wisdom with his strategic master mind you get= high tech weapons against wisdom
The dragons vs the tiger
Muscle vs brain
How Paul with guerrillas assault are able to destroy the Star Wars empire with all theirs technology.
Tsu su wisdom destroying the most powerful army in the universe.
But no this movie is for people that don’t know nothing about Dune they will enjoy it
Uh... have you read the books...? The battles are faifhful to the books, what do you mean?
You really don’t get it and this is a horrible take.
How….respectfully…have you not read any of the other books or seen any of the other like SYFY adaptations etc. but you’re so confidentiality stoked on this?
I agree with you, this was a great movie and 1st book (out of many) and I appreciate this adaptation for ppl who are unfamiliar W the source material... But why’d you only read the first book and stop? How can you critique Florence Pews take on a very important character positively or negatively w/o any context? Not an attack at all my dude, I swear It’s just odd to be a *fanboy* (respectfully) of Dune 2 but haven’t reached beyond this to the novels or ANY other context/content.
Great review tho, take care!!!
Avatar 2 was miles better than this pile of garbage. Now a bunch of nerds can jump on the bandwagon for this crap whilst the glory of the books becomes obscured. This film sucked.