BJØRRN I freaking love these videos, I was just thinking when you were gonna upload the 1000km challenge with the G6. Thanks a lot for your work in your videos!!!!!
Fun informative video. Software is so important on EVs. At least it makes EV life so much easier if software helpes you! And a nice purple Volvo C40 at around the 7:00 mark at Varberg. 😊 Was nice to have a quick chat with you there. Thanks. Keep up the good work!
Those charging numbers are really impressive! Makes my Model 3 (P 2021) looks like a grandpa :D I do wonder about long term battery health, though. Any idea if that's a factor (with these much higher and longer charging numbers)?
Agreed. Software isn't just a feature, it is fundamental to the ownership experience. Lag and pinch-to-zoom issues aside (which may be chip related), the amount of information (way too much) and tiny writing on the driver's display speaks volumes about this company re software design.
14℃ with no precipitation is not exactly what we should be calling winter conditions. Model 3 had rain 40% of the time during its test. If there's a man who'll retest it will be Bjørn.
The bigger picture is the Chinese new models and its improvements will come to mkt in 2 years instead of 5. So in 5 years they are already 2 models ahead. Tesla against BYD , Zeekr , Xiaomi , Li , Aion , etc. I think it will be a very difficult challenge. The Chinese mkt is also the largest with around 23M cars. And it’s now 50% penetrations, if they reach 80% , it’s game over.
Except charging, how is this better than MEB cars? Luckily, i think from following several groups on the likes of Facebook, people dont really care that much about charging time, as long as its not +40 mins.
The software problems appear to be localisation issues. The usage culture and 3rd party providers vary from region to region and will take time to smoothen out.
@@gummibando are you annoyed it is a localisation issue? Im not pro china or pro west, but we shouldnt lie or create false narratives for either side to appease our view point. Have a good day mate
Apparently, Xpeng ran out of colour for their press cars, too. btw: Those inserts at @4:28 seem a bit off: "Distance left: 289 km, Time spent: 711 km" 🤣
The G9 and G6 have different processors (ask GPT) so it may be a hardware issue. I do know, for example, early Lucid Air cars had pinch-to-zoom and sluggish software issue that were fixed ONLY via Lucid fortunately offering existing owners a processor chip upgrade path without the need to buy a whole new car-the right move given the situation. Other corporate design culture issues for Xpeng is their propensity for tiny writing and too much display information. Software designers must understand text and icon sizes and touch target sizes, and knowing what to leave out. You cannot learn this on a whim; you need design leaders with decision authority who understand this design philosophy.
The charging speed may not always depend on a car, it can also depend on the commercial charger in question or can it also depend on the software if the car and the charger are not so well optimized for each other?
@hardywoodaway9912 Model Y has hard seats and headrest along with firm suspension. This makes it very uncomfortable ride for backseat passengers. The seat at the back is also shorter than the Xpeng.
Off topic: How is status on A Better Route Planner with ODB connection? I remember you discovered some bugs or missing features a while ago. It would be nice with a video on that maybe?
Is this the long range? Why is showing you 440 km on 100%? Last saturday we drove Xpeng G6 long range and on the screen it showed us around 520 km with 97%.
The function regarding temperature to charge the battery in that car may not be quite what you think? maybe instead a function to ensure that the battery does not go over a certain temperature to preserve battery health as much as possible? read the user manual. hopefully there is one it could therefore be that the car reduces the charging speed to keep the battery temperature at a certain maximum temperature. However, this is just my theory. You mentioned it yourself The Chinese image They might think a little differently about the Chinese car company is it a European or American car company would have thought
The story is that he recieved some criticism from a viewer about the pronunciation of that place. He was pronuncing it wrong and now as a joke he always say it three times with the wrong pronunciation.
It might charge fast AF, but with a infotainment system that sucks this bad it’s absolutely worthless. Most people will fast charge a handful of time in a year but will use the infotainment system on a daily basis.
The story is that he recieved some criticism from a viewer about the pronunciation of that place. He was pronuncing it wrong and now as a joke he always say it three times with the wrong pronunciation
Off cause you always have the EXPENSIVE version to testdrive.... Performance ..... I don't need that (the cheaper edition would be fine enougth for me) . But I wonder if I should buy the G6 - looks like a comfortable good car. But power consumption is quit bad ..... about 24KWH/100km :( OK - Tesla Y is not much better, but comparing to a Hyundai KONA which I drive now (of course much smaller car) 33% more power is a price to pay for the total distanse. Is it worth the extra comfort and space ... perhaps ;) NOTE: Now I testdrive an XPeng G6 AWD and it was great!!! Comfortable and quiet car! Unfortunally 512.000NOK is a lot of money I rather would like to buy and Xpeng MONA 03 for 1/2 price ;)
With consideration for differences in personal preferences in different markets (e.g. to me, the "drone view" is basically just a gimmick), I really don't see why Chinese EV software is often so highly praised. The UX is just not good, even when compared to sub-par systems like VWs older-gen MIB. What's with the Passenger Airbag info? Icon shows _disabled_ but text says "Airbag On"?
There is nothing revolutionary about Xpeng. They charge really fast and thats important to some people. Their software is decent, but i dont really understand why its so important. Most use AA/ACP anyway. I was really focused on how fast the car could charge when i was looking, but going through a winter where i were using fast chargers almost exclusively with 35.000km/year in my Polestar 2, i came to realize that sub 30 mins from 10-80% is more than enough. Never thought i should say it, but MEB cars from Volkswagen group are actually really good. Their new software works just as it should and their cars are just really good to drive. And i bet you that TCO is about the same, or maybe even better for MEB cars.
@@Colt16v I so wish more EVs would support signaling the car's SoC to AA/ACP. AFAIK, for CarPlay only the Porsche Taycan (probably the new Macan as well) and Ford Mach-E support this. I recently read somewhere that future EVs have to provide this functionality for Android Auto certification.
Its not only the software. I hesr everywhere hoe good chinese evs are and they are better than germans. Than i watch videos on this channel and made some research and i found out that thats not the case at all. Mercedes eqs with old technology still has more range than most of the new chinese cars. Than they always exaggerate eith their range data often the real range is much lower Software problems efficiency problems also. There are some western guys living in china and making videos ablut chinese car. They always shoot against west and europe. The video is always about how got chinese cars are. But no real range test avsible on their channels. Maybe they have some reasons for that..😊
xPeNg iS A BeTtEr cOmPaNy bEcAuSe tHeIr cEo aNd i sHaRe tHe sAmE AgEnDa aNd wE CaN’T ThInK FoR OuRsElVeS. aNyBoDy wHo dIsAgReEs wItH Me iS CrAzY AnD I Am aLwAyS RiGhT AnD I KnOw eVeRyThInG!
I would go foocking mental if the car slowed down in normal highway curves! That and the other silly software stuff like not adjusting mirrors etc negates the good charge speed!
exactly. An extra 10mins for charging is no big deal, especially during meal times. The other issues will be a deal braker for me. No SOC when adding destination, very small font on both screens, clumsy UI, nav not picking up charging stations or other major POI, lane keep assist is ping ponging the car b/w the lines, speedo under reporting by 4km/h, efficiency reading vague, having to calculate charge times all the time to see if you have enough charge.
EU just fined Uber 324 million dollars for sending their drivers personal data to the US. A violation of EU regulations. I am not making this up. You can verify this yourself.
Uber just did that by sending their drivers personal data to US. EU fined them 324 million dollars for violation their regulation. You can verify this. I am not making this up.
When you were showing the fail navigation I noticed something, it says Gothenburg instead of Göteborg, Boras and Jonkoping as if it can't display åäö but then spells Växjö correctly, all at the same time!! WTF Xpeng?! 😂 FAIL
Why does seeing all the views of the car on the 360 degree camera surprise you? BYD cars do this too. It’s actually better in the BYD. You’re really deprived of decent cars in Europe.
Re efficiency, Why does Bjorn always drive 15km/h over the limits on these challenges? Owners would not normally do this in other countries (get fined) and the Wh/km greatly drops above 100km/h for most cars, 130+ would expect high in-efficiencies from drag. Even to match GPS speed is normally ~5km/h out but not 15, or is he locked in driving style to compare to past challenge times? :\
Someone who does not understand that kW doesn't matter, the C-Charge rate matters. The 92kWh battery charges with 288kW, that's 3.1C which is why the charging from 10-80% is 20min. A Model Y SR with BYD Blade batteries has a C-Charge rate of 3C and also charges from 10-80% in 20min, a Model Y LR/Performance also has 3C, yet it charges way slower because of the weak charging curve due to limited cooling capabilities and a weak battery management system or battery cell structure. The Xpeng will probably have lower degradation that the Model Y LR/Performance due to better thermal stability!
@@PT-mj3bk just checking what you think I would see. My OnePlus 10 Pro has dropped from 95% -> 92% in 2,5 years (it was not in 100% based on AccuBattery Pro even when new). Previous 7 Pro was also 90%+ (do not remember if 90 or 92) after 4 years.
The Chinese G9 went up to 475kW charging speed, 2 years ago already, if you bought it with that option in China. And China actually has a few charging stalls (some exploited by Xpeng themselves) that can reach that speed. Kind of a shame that they didn't release the option in the EU. Would have been fun to obliterate the competition when it comes to charging speed although it would be practically pretty useless due to our slower charging infrastructure.
Someone who does not understand that kW doesn't matter, the C-Charge rate matters... The 92kWh battery charges with 288kW, that's 3.1C which is why the charging from 10-80% is 20min. A Model Y SR with BYD Blade batteries has a C-Charge rate of 3C and also charges from 10-80% in 20min, a Model Y LR/Performance has 3C, yet it charges way slower because of the weak charging curve due to limited cooling capabilities and a weak battery management system or battery cell structure. The Xpeng will probably have lower degradation that the Model Y LR/Performance due to better thermal stability! A Porsche Taycan charges with 320-325kW peak and demands 300kW from the charger until 60% SoC. It has a C-Charge rate of 3.2C, very close to the values mentioned above. Taycan charges from 10-80% in 18min, slightly faster due to a slightly increased max C-charge rate, but mainly because of better themal management and BMS which enable the battery to take in high charge rate for wider SoC ranges. Degradation will be quite the same in all of these (except that the BYD LFP battery generally has more degradation buffer due to higher number of charge cycles).
I still prefer better range over faster charging speed. If I have to take a 30 minute break, I dont want to take it every 250-350km if I know I can drive further without problems. And I want to have the freedom to stop anywhere not when I have to due to low SoC especially after a highway/autobahn trip.
EV's are definitely real cars. It's just that a lot of chinese cars aren't tuned for the european market but give them time and they will be. Or are you someone who hates EVs and just likes to comment that on every video about EVs even though you don't care about them?
@@H3aby84 if, when you buy a car, you get along with it a "range anxiety" issue, for me this is not a car. It is a very expensive gadget which some not very smart people for some reason decided to pay for. And all EVs without exception are dominated by CEVs in terms of design, either exterior or interior. All EVs look cheap, plastic and without real buttons anymore 😂
VW can‘t get their software fixed, so they invested in Xpeng 😅 doesn‘t seem to make sense seeing this 🙈 I guess that is why they also went to Rivian lately.
I dont think it beats Model Y at all.. It just seems to be as good as copy as possible from model Y, but do they have to copy to beat them? I would choose a Tesla anyday, they are simply the best electric cars if you think of it as a whole package. I drove the G6, but wasnt really that impressed
@@bjornnylandThat's fine, but theres more to it than that. When its really beating the Y ( if that ever happens), then its also a perfect copy of Y, so its just Tesla in another form really then. For me the Y is a way better car, a more ingenious car, and they dont copy, they ponder everything out for themselfes..and That's the hard thing😊
game over? software is important - Tesla leads by a lot. But also with efficiency - with smaller batteries and slower charging -they can keep up. If Y gets an upgrade here theres "game over" ...again.
In china tesla is behind on software. I don't know why xpeng have so much trouble when they release new models in Europe. Mby because they are one of the smaller manufacturers.
I wouldn't buy from either country, Teslas have idiotic solutions especially for those driving in Northern-Europe and Chinese, well, nobody dares to buy them.
Just wait for the Onvo L60. This car will have it all and beats all the evs in efficiency. It has very good software and it’s cheap plus it will have battery swap technology.
@@Drini666 if it works better in China it's because the data doesn't have far to travel when "Sending data to China". Your point proves that this is happening.
@@Tescam14 Its because local data providers provide better data to Chinese manufacturers in China than what European data providers provide to Chinese manufacturers in the European market. "Your point proves that this is happening." Your point proves you are a bit of a simpleton.
@@ensteffo so you are denying that data is being sent to China? Why is the USA Govt concerned about all the data that EVs capture and Bjorn commenting on it all the time. Have you not even thought that Chinese made EVs may be the ability to be shutdown remotely by the CCP in the event of war. So if data is being sent to China, wouldn't it be quicker from China than Norway?
ye no this doesnt beat model 3 nor model y what you on about lol, 600 km easy whit tesla, only thing it has it cahrges sooner yes but for 400 km...not 600 km as tesla does....
Xpeng G6 Performance literally has more range than the Model Y Performance and it charges faster, too. It should even beat the Model Y "LR" AWD, it certainly does on a 1000km roadtrip.
consumption is very high and this evs are just like my children s remote toy cars. they are very overpriced. once I with my frend Ev stuck in traffic about 3 hours in winter so that was catastrophic..
An EV doesn't consume much in 3 hours in stand still traffic... Stop lying. Björn even have videos here on his channel that Model S survived over 100 hours stationary with 23 degrees cabin heat in winter.
@@Danne89 First of all, if you don't know person, you shouldn't insult him and accuse him of lying, otherwise you will meet someone who will cut your tongue for such behavior! Second, not everyone has an model S with a huge battery and the car can't be full charged all the time, so you're a small boy, you don't have the life experience and you don't have the courtesy, I recommend you to prepare lessons.
@@jasonhe1287 personally i’ve phev Volt and my friends Leaf and eGolf so in warm weather its ok but in winter its disaster, we do not have such a wide network of chargers as in Northern Europe or America. and what is your experience about EV Share, maybe there is something that I don't know
Tack för bra och tydliga tester av intressanta elbilar!
Noticed in the manual there is a function called Adaptive Turn Cruise (ATC). ATC improves the turning comfort
and stability by adjusting the speed.
Let's go Björn! Keep up the good work!
I stay with Tesla!!!
The Euroncap crash test result for G6 has just been published - it does really good
It gets five stars, but _insanely good_ ?
Then there are EVs in the small SUV class that are more insanely good.
@@gummibando sorry dude. You are right, I changed it to really instead.
BJØRRN I freaking love these videos, I was just thinking when you were gonna upload the 1000km challenge with the G6. Thanks a lot for your work in your videos!!!!!
Fun informative video. Software is so important on EVs. At least it makes EV life so much easier if software helpes you!
And a nice purple Volvo C40 at around the 7:00 mark at Varberg. 😊 Was nice to have a quick chat with you there. Thanks.
Keep up the good work!
Choosing between Xpeng g6 performance and Kia Ev6 GT line Awd, which one whould you pick @bjornnyland ?
G6
eGMP 800V cars get the same on v4 supercharger. My Kia EV6 shows 97 kW when I use Tesla v4.
I think all the Belgians here can only agree on our infamous road quality 😂
Well roads isn’t waffles, chocolate, fries or beer - so that’s given
The Dutch as well 😜
More than compensated for with your beautiful cities.
We don't have money to fix our Belgian roads, we need it to pay all our governments. 😢
Yup
I really enjoy watching your videos Björn! I would really like to see you test the Volvo ex30 LFP, I have one on order "poor mans Volvo"😀.
Thanks for you good job Bjorn!
I wish you could try the 1000km challenge with a 150kWh ET5😊
Those charging numbers are really impressive! Makes my Model 3 (P 2021) looks like a grandpa :D I do wonder about long term battery health, though. Any idea if that's a factor (with these much higher and longer charging numbers)?
All of that software/UI and nav would drive me insane!! (And slowing down in curves!)
Agreed. Software isn't just a feature, it is fundamental to the ownership experience. Lag and pinch-to-zoom issues aside (which may be chip related), the amount of information (way too much) and tiny writing on the driver's display speaks volumes about this company re software design.
Great job
Xpeng is really awesome.
Can you retest xpeng g9 with updated software and not in winter conditions?
14℃ with no precipitation is not exactly what we should be calling winter conditions. Model 3 had rain 40% of the time during its test. If there's a man who'll retest it will be Bjørn.
@@savedfaves He wrote G9 not G6
thanks for the nice videos and good comparisons. GRENZSTAU - is that the new Rammstein song? :-)
Oh the car had the option color change option :)
Software software software!!
The bigger picture is the Chinese new models and its improvements will come to mkt in 2 years instead of 5. So in 5 years they are already 2 models ahead. Tesla against BYD , Zeekr , Xiaomi , Li , Aion , etc. I think it will be a very difficult challenge. The Chinese mkt is also the largest with around 23M cars. And it’s now 50% penetrations, if they reach 80% , it’s game over.
Except charging, how is this better than MEB cars? Luckily, i think from following several groups on the likes of Facebook, people dont really care that much about charging time, as long as its not +40 mins.
64%
The software problems appear to be localisation issues. The usage culture and 3rd party providers vary from region to region and will take time to smoothen out.
ADAS conking out, mirrors not able to adjust or the satnav sluggishness are certainly not localization issues.
@@gummibandohaving used this car in china i can confirm the software is completely flawless on the mainland
@@JBr-pk7wu Good for you, bot.
@@gummibando are you annoyed it is a localisation issue? Im not pro china or pro west, but we shouldnt lie or create false narratives for either side to appease our view point. Have a good day mate
@@JBr-pk7wu If these issues originate from localization, there is a serious problem with the underlying software architecture. Mate.
EV6 goes to 96kW on v3 SuC, so about the same for E-GMP
People shitting on VW for software. And then I see this. Wtf?
Just because something even shittier exists doesn't mean the less shitty thing isn't shitty
Thats chinese propaganda i think. Many people still thinkg china has the best evs.its not true
Do you think that it is useful to have "times spent charging" on these challenges?
Absolutely , because as you know, the companies tend to exaggerate their claims quite a bit about charging speed and km range.
Sending deta to China 🇨🇳 😂 is too funny. You sound like the American president
You can ask Uber how they felt after getting fined 324 million dollars by EU for doing just that. Sending their drivers personal data to the US.
Very curious to see how long these batteries last/what degradation is with these rates of charge.
Apparently, Xpeng ran out of colour for their press cars, too.
btw: Those inserts at @4:28 seem a bit off: "Distance left: 289 km, Time spent: 711 km" 🤣
In my G9 the pinch to zoom is really fast, this one seems sluggish...
The G9 and G6 have different processors (ask GPT) so it may be a hardware issue. I do know, for example, early Lucid Air cars had pinch-to-zoom and sluggish software issue that were fixed ONLY via Lucid fortunately offering existing owners a processor chip upgrade path without the need to buy a whole new car-the right move given the situation.
Other corporate design culture issues for Xpeng is their propensity for tiny writing and too much display information. Software designers must understand text and icon sizes and touch target sizes, and knowing what to leave out. You cannot learn this on a whim; you need design leaders with decision authority who understand this design philosophy.
his is defective, it shouldn't be like that, mine is smooth responsive.
Tela is Toast (at least in UK, if they get the price right and we avoid tariffs..)
Most be something wrong with the screen😅 had the cheap G3 for two years. The screen worked perfectly on that car.
The charging speed may not always depend on a car, it can also depend on the commercial charger in question or can it also depend on the software if the car and the charger are not so well optimized for each other?
How would you rank the xpeng againts the Enyaq 85, Ioniq 5 fl, model y and id4? what would you choose?
The G6 would still provide way more features, space and tech for the money than any of those.
@@Jajalaatmaarmodel y just works, hyundai could charge fast, Enyaq is the better VW and Xpeng sends data to China and has software issues
@hardywoodaway9912 Model Y has hard seats and headrest along with firm suspension. This makes it very uncomfortable ride for backseat passengers. The seat at the back is also shorter than the Xpeng.
@@hardywoodaway9912 Lol
I would choose y, scenic, ioniq5. Id4 has tremendous problems with everything. Enyaq may be similar.
how 800v cars charge on 400v chargers? I need a technical answer so I can start researching stuff
Off topic: How is status on A Better Route Planner with ODB connection? I remember you discovered some bugs or missing features a while ago. It would be nice with a video on that maybe?
This is the only Chinese EV I have been waiting about the test! ❤
Is this the 2024 G6? I think I've seen G6 with better translation and to add the new one comes without the ambient lights
How would you compare it to the ID 7 almost fully equiped if they would cost me the same.
Is this the long range? Why is showing you 440 km on 100%? Last saturday we drove Xpeng G6 long range and on the screen it showed us around 520 km with 97%.
Dynamic range was displayed.
So it has ambient lighting? I couldn't find it in the specs
great car for pulling a trailer. Ut should outperform many other cars.
It would shot me to tears with the taxes you pay on imported cars in Europe.
Left lane hugger :)
@Björn Nyland.
Kannst du eine Satteliten Ansicht machen ? Wie Google Maps ?
Design nice, reload nice, the consumption is hell...
so is 10 to 80% on par with the kia EV6 ? (ev6 takes 150 kwh @79%)
*kW
The function regarding temperature to charge the battery in that car may not be quite what you think? maybe instead a function to ensure that the battery does not go over a certain temperature to preserve battery health as much as possible? read the user manual. hopefully there is one
it could therefore be that the car reduces the charging speed to keep the battery temperature at a certain maximum temperature. However, this is just my theory. You mentioned it yourself The Chinese image They might think a little differently about the Chinese car company is it a European or American car company would have thought
Spekkerespekkerespekkeröd
I don't understand that "joke" i missed that video or is it a Norwegian thing?
@@Tescam14 me neither but it sounds funny. I'm from Germany. 😁
I think it's the same as during the countdown : NEIN ,NEIN,NEIN!!!
Or Hyper charger: Scooter "Hyper Hyper"😂
The story is that he recieved some criticism from a viewer about the pronunciation of that place. He was pronuncing it wrong and now as a joke he always say it three times with the wrong pronunciation.
@@danielolzon1974 thanks for your info! Now it's even funnier :D
Impressive charging speeds, but that software is a massive red flag.
That navigation system is a bummer, really bad.
Adverts in Norway now where it seems that you are endorsing the G6 in a paid commercial. Are you doing endorsements for a fee?
The ride feels German because the suspension system IS German! That's important as Bjorn's beef is with the UI which can be easily remedied.
It might charge fast AF, but with a infotainment system that sucks this bad it’s absolutely worthless. Most people will fast charge a handful of time in a year but will use the infotainment system on a daily basis.
it seems pretty noisy inside. How good is sound insulation?
Very good
What is the story behind "spekerød,spekerød,spekerød" ?
The story is that he recieved some criticism from a viewer about the pronunciation of that place. He was pronuncing it wrong and now as a joke he always say it three times with the wrong pronunciation
That 360 camera angles at speed are one up on the Koreans which only allows for rear view at speed. 😁
That softer is GAGA
When will you range test Model Y LR RWD?
Agree, that would be good to watch!
Off cause you always have the EXPENSIVE version to testdrive.... Performance ..... I don't need that (the cheaper edition would be fine enougth for me) . But I wonder if I should buy the G6 - looks like a comfortable good car. But power consumption is quit bad ..... about 24KWH/100km :( OK - Tesla Y is not much better, but comparing to a Hyundai KONA which I drive now (of course much smaller car) 33% more power is a price to pay for the total distanse. Is it worth the extra comfort and space ... perhaps ;)
NOTE: Now I testdrive an XPeng G6 AWD and it was great!!! Comfortable and quiet car! Unfortunally 512.000NOK is a lot of money I rather would like to buy and Xpeng MONA 03 for 1/2 price ;)
I wait for the P7 facelift or P5 facelift.
also getiing 98 kwh on my EV6 at tesla superchargers
*kW
You guys stil do cabels in 2024?
Hi from an Nio owner.
At least the cables are open 24/7 and not closed at night...
With consideration for differences in personal preferences in different markets (e.g. to me, the "drone view" is basically just a gimmick), I really don't see why Chinese EV software is often so highly praised. The UX is just not good, even when compared to sub-par systems like VWs older-gen MIB.
What's with the Passenger Airbag info? Icon shows _disabled_ but text says "Airbag On"?
There is nothing revolutionary about Xpeng. They charge really fast and thats important to some people. Their software is decent, but i dont really understand why its so important. Most use AA/ACP anyway. I was really focused on how fast the car could charge when i was looking, but going through a winter where i were using fast chargers almost exclusively with 35.000km/year in my Polestar 2, i came to realize that sub 30 mins from 10-80% is more than enough.
Never thought i should say it, but MEB cars from Volkswagen group are actually really good. Their new software works just as it should and their cars are just really good to drive. And i bet you that TCO is about the same, or maybe even better for MEB cars.
@@Colt16v I so wish more EVs would support signaling the car's SoC to AA/ACP. AFAIK, for CarPlay only the Porsche Taycan (probably the new Macan as well) and Ford Mach-E support this. I recently read somewhere that future EVs have to provide this functionality for Android Auto certification.
Its not only the software. I hesr everywhere hoe good chinese evs are and they are better than germans. Than i watch videos on this channel and made some research and i found out that thats not the case at all. Mercedes eqs with old technology still has more range than most of the new chinese cars. Than they always exaggerate eith their range data often the real range is much lower
Software problems efficiency problems also. There are some western guys living in china and making videos ablut chinese car. They always shoot against west and europe. The video is always about how got chinese cars are. But no real range test avsible on their channels. Maybe they have some reasons for that..😊
There are a lot of probabilitys that you have an accident since you are all the time touching the screen. Be careful
The biggest advantage of the xPeng is, that their CEO isnt insane!
xPeNg iS A BeTtEr cOmPaNy bEcAuSe tHeIr cEo aNd i sHaRe tHe sAmE AgEnDa aNd wE CaN’T ThInK FoR OuRsElVeS. aNyBoDy wHo dIsAgReEs wItH Me iS CrAzY AnD I Am aLwAyS RiGhT AnD I KnOw eVeRyThInG!
@@c-fb absolutely
Same with Tesla. Elon is very smart.
I would go foocking mental if the car slowed down in normal highway curves! That and the other silly software stuff like not adjusting mirrors etc negates the good charge speed!
exactly. An extra 10mins for charging is no big deal, especially during meal times. The other issues will be a deal braker for me. No SOC when adding destination, very small font on both screens, clumsy UI, nav not picking up charging stations or other major POI, lane keep assist is ping ponging the car b/w the lines, speedo under reporting by 4km/h, efficiency reading vague, having to calculate charge times all the time to see if you have enough charge.
ONVO L60 from Nio comin.....
Sending Data To China…🤖
SB
No one will collect worthless data. It may cost time and money. Who will spend money to buy a piece of sHT
EU just fined Uber 324 million dollars for sending their drivers personal data to the US. A violation of EU regulations. I am not making this up. You can verify this yourself.
whaha "sending data to China" 🤣
Uber just did that by sending their drivers personal data to US. EU fined them 324 million dollars for violation their regulation. You can verify this. I am not making this up.
When you were showing the fail navigation I noticed something, it says Gothenburg instead of Göteborg, Boras and Jonkoping as if it can't display åäö but then spells Växjö correctly, all at the same time!! WTF Xpeng?! 😂 FAIL
Why does seeing all the views of the car on the 360 degree camera surprise you? BYD cars do this too. It’s actually better in the BYD. You’re really deprived of decent cars in Europe.
Und bei FSD ist Mercedes auch vorne was bleibt musk jetzt noch???
Re efficiency, Why does Bjorn always drive 15km/h over the limits on these challenges? Owners would not normally do this in other countries (get fined) and the Wh/km greatly drops above 100km/h for most cars, 130+ would expect high in-efficiencies from drag. Even to match GPS speed is normally ~5km/h out but not 15, or is he locked in driving style to compare to past challenge times? :\
I stay with Tesla!
288 kW charging? Boy, do I wanna see the long-term battery degradation on this boy.
Look at a 2-4 year old OnePlus smartphone that was only supercharged and youll have an idea
Kind of a cope remark, isn't it?
Someone who does not understand that kW doesn't matter, the C-Charge rate matters. The 92kWh battery charges with 288kW, that's 3.1C which is why the charging from 10-80% is 20min. A Model Y SR with BYD Blade batteries has a C-Charge rate of 3C and also charges from 10-80% in 20min, a Model Y LR/Performance also has 3C, yet it charges way slower because of the weak charging curve due to limited cooling capabilities and a weak battery management system or battery cell structure.
The Xpeng will probably have lower degradation that the Model Y LR/Performance due to better thermal stability!
@@PT-mj3bk just checking what you think I would see. My OnePlus 10 Pro has dropped from 95% -> 92% in 2,5 years (it was not in 100% based on AccuBattery Pro even when new). Previous 7 Pro was also 90%+ (do not remember if 90 or 92) after 4 years.
@@PT-mj3bk about 3 years battery on my OnePlus 10 Pro ist dead😂
Please Björn!! Xpeng is not pronounced Expeng - It should be ShiaoPöng
I know.
Jeez, the heater on 25C? Damn, that ate a lot of power.
Nope. 25°C in Chinese cars are tuned like 21°C in Western cars. I have mentioned this many times in my video.
Wait what different car?😂
Check the test date at the end. I borrowed this G6 long time ago and then the orange G6.
The GUi response is abysmal
bro that gear stalk straight outta tesla
More accurately, out of a Mercedes. These stalks were first on Mercs before they were used on Teslas.
I think some serious testing needs to be done on how Xpeng manages the battery while charging at 280kw.
The Chinese G9 went up to 475kW charging speed, 2 years ago already, if you bought it with that option in China. And China actually has a few charging stalls (some exploited by Xpeng themselves) that can reach that speed.
Kind of a shame that they didn't release the option in the EU. Would have been fun to obliterate the competition when it comes to charging speed although it would be practically pretty useless due to our slower charging infrastructure.
Someone who does not understand that kW doesn't matter, the C-Charge rate matters... The 92kWh battery charges with 288kW, that's 3.1C which is why the charging from 10-80% is 20min. A Model Y SR with BYD Blade batteries has a C-Charge rate of 3C and also charges from 10-80% in 20min, a Model Y LR/Performance has 3C, yet it charges way slower because of the weak charging curve due to limited cooling capabilities and a weak battery management system or battery cell structure.
The Xpeng will probably have lower degradation that the Model Y LR/Performance due to better thermal stability!
A Porsche Taycan charges with 320-325kW peak and demands 300kW from the charger until 60% SoC. It has a C-Charge rate of 3.2C, very close to the values mentioned above. Taycan charges from 10-80% in 18min, slightly faster due to a slightly increased max C-charge rate, but mainly because of better themal management and BMS which enable the battery to take in high charge rate for wider SoC ranges. Degradation will be quite the same in all of these (except that the BYD LFP battery generally has more degradation buffer due to higher number of charge cycles).
xpeng claims 550km wltp range and on your screen at11:06 I see 275km/80% which would be about 350km at 100% - how that???
I still prefer better range over faster charging speed. If I have to take a 30 minute break, I dont want to take it every 250-350km if I know I can drive further without problems. And I want to have the freedom to stop anywhere not when I have to due to low SoC especially after a highway/autobahn trip.
great video, keep it up Björn! proves again that EVs are not real cars
EV's are definitely real cars. It's just that a lot of chinese cars aren't tuned for the european market but give them time and they will be. Or are you someone who hates EVs and just likes to comment that on every video about EVs even though you don't care about them?
@@H3aby84 if, when you buy a car, you get along with it a "range anxiety" issue, for me this is not a car. It is a very expensive gadget which some not very smart people for some reason decided to pay for. And all EVs without exception are dominated by CEVs in terms of design, either exterior or interior. All EVs look cheap, plastic and without real buttons anymore 😂
VW can‘t get their software fixed, so they invested in Xpeng 😅 doesn‘t seem to make sense seeing this 🙈 I guess that is why they also went to Rivian lately.
but where they take the money from to get Rivian…
Looks like xpeng decided to use VW software, must have been problem with translation 🤣
No its not because of that.
20% more consumption than Tesla Model Y LR - says it all.
Lets se how it is in 5-10 years 😂
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Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland
I dont think it beats Model Y at all.. It just seems to be as good as copy as possible from model Y, but do they have to copy to beat them? I would choose a Tesla anyday, they are simply the best electric cars if you think of it as a whole package. I drove the G6, but wasnt really that impressed
Last time I checked, 9 hours and 30 minutes (G6) is beating 9 hours and 45 minutes (Model Y)
Elon Musk is a good reson for many to avoid Teslas, but I would avoid Chinese too.
@@iam5085Exactly, hes a timebomb.
@@bjornnylandThat's fine, but theres more to it than that. When its really beating the Y ( if that ever happens), then its also a perfect copy of Y, so its just Tesla in another form really then. For me the Y is a way better car, a more ingenious car, and they dont copy, they ponder everything out for themselfes..and That's the hard thing😊
@@bjornnyland who care about chargitn time lol when tesla beats it any any other thing
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game over? software is important - Tesla leads by a lot. But also with efficiency - with smaller batteries and slower charging -they can keep up. If Y gets an upgrade here theres "game over" ...again.
Tesla leads by a lot with efficiency? Laughs in Ioniq classic.
In china tesla is behind on software. I don't know why xpeng have so much trouble when they release new models in Europe. Mby because they are one of the smaller manufacturers.
I wouldn't buy from either country, Teslas have idiotic solutions especially for those driving in Northern-Europe and Chinese, well, nobody dares to buy them.
Just wait for the Onvo L60. This car will have it all and beats all the evs in efficiency. It has very good software and it’s cheap plus it will have battery swap technology.
Gr8 to see Xpeng did not fall for placing the chargeport on the incorrect side
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Navigation, maps and software in chinese cars are a disaster
Maps are from local 3rd party providers.
They work brilliant in china but buggy in Europe 😢
@@Drini666 if it works better in China it's because the data doesn't have far to travel when "Sending data to China". Your point proves that this is happening.
@@Tescam14 Its because local data providers provide better data to Chinese manufacturers in China than what European data providers provide to Chinese manufacturers in the European market.
"Your point proves that this is happening." Your point proves you are a bit of a simpleton.
@@ensteffo so you are denying that data is being sent to China? Why is the USA Govt concerned about all the data that EVs capture and Bjorn commenting on it all the time. Have you not even thought that Chinese made EVs may be the ability to be shutdown remotely by the CCP in the event of war. So if data is being sent to China, wouldn't it be quicker from China than Norway?
chines logic is not the same as mine 🙃
Doesn't matter. Don't buy Chinese stuff...
ye no this doesnt beat model 3 nor model y what you on about lol, 600 km easy whit tesla, only thing it has it cahrges sooner yes but for 400 km...not 600 km as tesla does....
Xpeng G6 Performance literally has more range than the Model Y Performance and it charges faster, too. It should even beat the Model Y "LR" AWD, it certainly does on a 1000km roadtrip.
You should test drive the two cars at the same speed to compare their performance.
@@Aztasuwhere is the video of this g6
consumption is very high and this evs are just like my children s remote toy cars. they are very overpriced. once I with my frend Ev stuck in traffic about 3 hours in winter so that was catastrophic..
An EV doesn't consume much in 3 hours in stand still traffic... Stop lying. Björn even have videos here on his channel that Model S survived over 100 hours stationary with 23 degrees cabin heat in winter.
@@Danne89 First of all, if you don't know person, you shouldn't insult him and accuse him of lying, otherwise you will meet someone who will cut your tongue for such behavior! Second, not everyone has an model S with a huge battery and the car can't be full charged all the time, so you're a small boy, you don't have the life experience and you don't have the courtesy, I recommend you to prepare lessons.
If you have that experience, let us know which EV you have. If you don't and just imagine it, please learn more about EVs.
@@jasonhe1287 personally i’ve phev Volt and my friends Leaf and eGolf so in warm weather its ok but in winter its disaster, we do not have such a wide network of chargers as in Northern Europe or America. and what is your experience about EV Share, maybe there is something that I don't know
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