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If you want to move to Spain or to another country, give it a thought and go for it, just enjoy the experience you will learn a lot about yourself, as well as, the culture and the language (a real academic booster) even if it doesn't go the way you expect it.... It's interesting and you might not be able to do that again! When opportunities come up, grab it!
I moved to different countries many times, it made me grow as a person and even the negative becomes positive if you give it a chance. :)
I completely agree 💯
ago You have no idea how spectacular Spain is. The arguments you give are given from all countries, or what happens that in the USA, UNITED KINGDOM, FRANCE, AUSTRALIA, ETC, there is no hunger, everything is great, everyone earns 5,000 euros and people are super friendly, smiling. Electricity, gas, gasoline and taxes are free, they give you everything. SPAIN IS NOT PERFECT BUT IT HAS A VERY GREAT STANDARD OF LIVING, THAT'S WHY WE ARE THE 2 LONGEST-LIVING COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD. The oldest universities in Europe, this goes for one who says around here that education in Spain is pathetic. One of the best cuisines in the world and the 2nd country with the most visitors 85 million people and the 5th country with the most gdp in Europe. I INVITE YOU ALL TO VISIT THIS GREAT COUNTRY. WHAT IS SPAIN
I love Spain.. that's why I live here ☺️ but not every country is for everyone
I'm Spanish and I agree with all points. The one that we are unfairly blamed of being "inefficient" or "unproductive" is true. They say it's because the siesta culture, or they say we didn't have an Enlightment, etc. And the truth is we work as hard as the rest of Europeans, and in some cases with extra working hours that are not paid. A poor country doesn't mean a lazy country.
Well said 👏
I do not think we owe explanations to anyone, don't be naive. You do not know whom you're dealing with. Un saludo.
Lo único que les hace falta a los extranjeros que intentan tirar por tierra España es que los propios españoles les demos la razon.... sinceramente, puede tener razón en algunos puntos, pero en otros? Por lo que veo, ella vive o ha vivido en Málaga y Málaga no es la representación de España entera. Normal que hable de ruidos cuando en general en Andalucía se habla más alto que en otras regiones. Normal que hable de calefacción cuando en Andalucía las casas no están preparadas para el invierno.....No se puede generalizar de esa manera si solo has vivido en una zona de España.
Poor country? Where did you get that from?
You don't have to discuss this subjects like we see in the shameful spanish political atmosphere. Just check the many sociocultural statistic indicators to compare, no discussion about numbers... and i'm affraid there is a difference in many of that numbers, don't you take it personal...
0:50 Spaniards tend to be loud. TRUE. And you haven't met my younger sister. She's loud even for Spanish standards.
1:41 Taxes. National/regional/local governments don't care about fair taxes. They want you to pay. If they reduced taxes where they're too much they'd have to force others to pay more, even if they should. That wouldn't make the governing party very popular.
2:46 Cold winters (inside). In Madrid most homes have central heating. But in the south it's going to be like 20-30 really cold nights per year. It'd be expensive to have your home adapted to the cold for so few days. We're not that wealthy. Money is always the problem.
3:27 Bureaucracy. Spaniards hate it too.
4:55 Inefficiency. Thank you for saying that it's not true. It can be true when mixed with bureaucracy, but not most of the time, IMHO.
5:30 Rude. If you ask someone from France or Northern Italy they'd say we ARE indeed rude. :-) I'm kidding. Yes, we're very direct, not as direct as Germans, but we're direct and we tend to dislike situations when people masquerade what they want to say or spend too much time explaining what they're about to say. Say it directly!!! :-) And yes, being loud doesn't help.
thank you for your observations :)
The loudest , rudest and unpoilte citicens in the world are the ENGLISH HOOLIGANS.
Just two notes.
It is very common that the foreigner and unknowing tend to look for housing in tourist areas or nightlife areas or in the cultural center of the chosen city... mistake.
The apartment looks great, you have beautiful views and it is close to (here put the fashionable neighborhood of any Spanish city) and of course later they find that people are in the street until 2 in the morning and they get up at 6 o'clock
It is important to know the area before buying or renting a home.
Regarding taxes, I am with you, the current tax rates are excessively high.
But just to remind you that when some foreigner says things like: "great free public health or great transportation or clean streets" ... as Mrs. Thatcher said, there is no such thing as free, they are what get us out of taxes.
Thanks for the video!
Thank you for your input! :)
you can have great things without having insane tax rates, the US didn't even have an income tax until 1913 and they had pretty much all the base services that you could expect.
You have inspired me to actually take action and plan my move to Spain. Thanks a lot!
Awesome 🥳
Welcome to high taxes
@@kippsguitar6539 And 21% vat on sky high electricity bills. The reduction at the moment is only temporary.
I live in Portland, Oregon. I'm lucky to bring home half my paycheck after taxes/ etc, it's rainy most of the year and can get down to roughly -7 degrees C with piles of snow and no central heat, in the summer it has gotten higher than ~ 45 degrees C with NO a/c at all, the last few years there have been so many fires the air has been unbreathable for weeks on end, I have neighbors with raucous children yelling and stomping around at all hours of the night, for some reason ... Also, the section about "all the complicated offices and hoops you have to jump through" sounds easier than my current month trying to arrange medical visits, and that doesn't even ADDRESS having to pay for them, which, no idea how that will happen!
I still love it here, honestly, but I can't see how Spain could be WORSE in those specific regards! XD
@@headbuttsforphaticcommunio3731 jajajaj te de dónde has sacado esa estupidez de que solo los negros son aceptados en España en grupos de amigos??? Y te echaron de trabajos por enseñar demasiado bien.... jajajajajaja
I still like Spain!
Me too 😀 🇪🇸
@@FriiInfo Me too!! Oops, I'm from Spain therefore... does it count? :-)
Still counts of course!
@@FriiInfo of course not, the Spanish are very self adoring and are always blowing their own trumpet, best food , blablabla but.most of them have never traveled
Is there a lot of crime there ?
I’m Spanish , and you are right ,I don’t like the noises
If someone thinks spanish are rude, try NY
😉
I think it depends on location. There's an AIRBNB in a small town that had to BOYCOTT its group of loudmouth renters who stayed up until 4 a.m. Police were also called.
Yes, tourists and foreigners can be really loud too 😊
Ruidosos los españoles......??????depende del momento y el lugar. Yo soy española y no me gusta el ruido y las voces. En los apartamentos , pisos, no hay ruido , salvo excepciones. Hay Ruido en las discotecas, calles estrechas llenas de terrazas, en el fútbol, en las fiestas callejeras, en Ibiza, Magaluf, Salou, y otras zonas de vacaciones de extranjeros borrachos.
first point is SO TRUE. I wasn't expecting that violent amount of noise. I once complained about a neighbor letting his kids playing soccer for hours in their flat and they got offended then told me to call the cops if i wasn't happy. This is sadly just one of many issues i had in all the places i got to live in. I am leaving Spain for that reason. I'll come back when i could afford to buy a house in Asturias, much more green and quiet.
For a while I thought it was only be because I am quite sensitive to noise. .. But then I noticed how many foreigners (and locals) complain as well. Sounds nice with a quiet house! :)
@@FriiInfo Definitely not you hahaha at least Spain has a lot to offer !
@@FriiInfo it's a massive issue for many people
Saludos from Asturias 🌧🌧🌧
@Kiko Rianzo surprisingly a lot of locals complain about that kind of issues. Keep your pointless comment for yourself and get out
One of my dreams is to purchase a property and relocate to Spain. Where I'm from, people are rude, racist, loud at times, entitled, property prices are extremely high, rent is very expensive, full of homeless, parts of the city are filthy, so many people receiving welfare( living off government-sponsored assistance programs), way too much burocracy. The plus thing here is that we have high salaries compared Europe. So yeah, Spain sounds like a dream country to live.
Many of those things exist in Spain as well. Of course that if you comapre American income with Spanish expenses you get a big advantage.
In relation to the economy I could say that although it seems that in Spain wages are lower than in the USA, I can explain some things.
They are different ways of measuring. In the USA they speak of Gross salary, and not NET.
That is to say that from there you have to take away fees, health insurance and other things.
There are also many other differences:
In the USA a car INSURANCE costs about $ 300 per MONTH. In Europe € 350 per YEAR.
In the USA the public transport service is basic or non-existent, which requires 1 car for each person in the family. In Europe the public transport service is excellent and you can perfectly live without a car.
In the USA, a health insurance that gives you the service provided by health insurance in Spain can cost $ 1,500 per month. (Spain has the third best health system in the world, FREE. It is already discounted from the salary)
In the USA, medicines can be up to 10 times more expensive than in Spain
In the USA doing a career does not go down than $ 50,000 and up to $ 200,000 while in Europe it is free or as in Spain € 2,000 a year. (amortizing the investment made, you should remove a good part of the salary in the first years of work)
A plane trip in the USA does not lower than $ 300 when in Europe traveling between countries can cost € 30 to € 100 either by plane or high-speed train.
In the USA the same as a professional earns a lot, when he hires another professional he pays him a lot. In the USA a lawyer can cost $ 200 an hour .. and in Spain € 50 an hour.
In the USA the rents are much more expensive.
In the USA there are no public parks like there are in Spain (Public are only the Malls)
In the USA the cost of food can be double than in Spain
In the USA the official protection houses are unlivable neighborhoods, and in Europe many are of very good quality.
In the USA vacations are not paid, and in Europe we have a month of paid vacations and more paid holidays.
In the USA there are no paid paternity leave, and in Europe they pay you 4 months' salary to take care of your children.
In the USA there is no babysitting service, and in regions like Madrid you have FREE nurseries up to the age of 3 when the child enters school.
There is a support of days off, help for children with problems, people with few resources, free services, subsidies, work-life balance, social integration, etc. that does not exist in the USA.
www.telemadrid.es/programas/buenos-dias-madrid/Comunidad-gratuidad-escuelas-infantiles-publicas-2-2111208859--20190409073245.html
In Spain they give aid and discounts for the elderly to travel at very low prices. (IMSERSO)
www.20minutos.es/noticia/3566652/0/que-es-el-imserso/
Another difference is that the retirement in Spain for a teacher with 35 years of work would be 100% of the salary and with ALL the aforementioned Social rights and in the USA he would retire with 50% of her salary (sometimes less).
And so we could be explaining the differences for a long time.
If two people working, with two children, two vehicles, they could need at least $ 6,000 per month to live in the USA.
Taking their children to a nursery, the expenses of the two cars, trips, rent, expenses, etc. loans to pay for the race, they would need to pay bills of at least $ 8,000 a month or more in the USA.
In Spain you could have the same quality of life for € 2,000. Everything else is provided by the State. Vacations, health insurance, subsidized travel, subsidized medicine, free childcare, etc.
This is called the welfare state.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state
True for sure :)
Here we are racist, so go to Russia, ARRIBA ESPAÑA!
@@vgjl1824 yes you are
All foreigners think Spain is just Sun, beaches and good weather. As a spaniard i can tell u that aint how the vast mayority of Spain isnt like that, outside Mediterranean cost. And no, u shouldnt move to the middle of nowhere, ur not taking in mind the climate. I dont really think any european can resist, or like, the extreme high temepratures in the interior, aswell as the dry and cold winter. Spain is also a very arid country, so no, it is not very good idea to move to the middle of nowhere. All that beside its difficult to make money, if u dont do a great investment, and jobs aint easy or a lot
2:00 That could be considered false actually, yes, the taxes are "high" but they take at the end of the year around 20% of your income, meanwhile in the US they actually take 43% of your income. It is true that it seems in Spain like a lots but it's because our standards of living are pretty cheap
If you make good money you will have to pay more than 20%. Also remember social security, when adding that to the overall equation it becomes a lot more than 20%.
@@FriiInfo yeah, it's 24% at the end of the year, shopping and doing anything, meanwhile, as I said, the US takes 43%, even tho they don't say it, with sales taxes for example
@@den_bla_gripen2080 Sales tax alone in Spain (VAT) is (for most products) 21%. As far as I am aware, that is not the case in the US and some states don't even have a sales tax correct?
@@FriiInfo that tax is mostly 19th century medical system you got
I am from Turkey and as far as I could say, all those are true for my own country too and even it is traditional in Turkey to go to wedding with convoy so if someone in the neighbor is marrying, you could here lots of music and car noises that possibly distract you a lot so to be honest all this cultural stuff are not a deal breaker for me but I would love to learn about the current employment rate since I am planning continuing my career in Spain after my graduation. I heard lots of stuff from lots of people, some are foreigner living in Spain without European citizenship and so on but I do not have solid experience about the issue so I would love to know whether it is true or not. Thanks for the video by the way.
Heey :) As a non-eu it's a bit more tricky. Maybe with your degree, you could get "Highly Skilled Professional Visa" although if you are just starting your career now, it could be difficult. You could also get hired remotely by another company and apply for the digital nomad visa.
@@FriiInfo Thank you a lot for your kind and detailed response. It really helped a lot 🥰
my issue is there soo much downsides in moving to any places in the world... just have to figure out if the benefits outweigh the negatives...
Agreed. Everywhere is a compromise in the end
Great video! Seriously, you make your points quickly and thoroughly. Intelligent, engaging, and not a narcissist TH-camr. So rare!!! Good luck to you!
Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words, you just made my day 💚
Vast majority of homens in cold part of Spain has central heating!!
I'm not Spanish and I don't live in Spain but have been considering the country for the last couple of months. At first, I wanted to move to the richer west like Netherlands or Sweden but then quickly changed my mind after the situation with new gas issue and caused inflation by it. I've been reading and listening to a lot of opinions from people who made exactly the same videos like you just for different countries. It all comes down to the same issues like you listed in your video for Spain. We all like to live in high standards and have high quality of life but we don't like to pay high taxes. These 2 do not correlate anywhere in the world. If you wish to pay very low taxes you should consider the cheaper countries like Bulgaria and Romania. However, way worse things are expected there. Because of the hot summers, like you mentioned, everyone has air conditioner, which can also be used for heating. In fact heating your house with air conditioner is cheaper than having central heating. Although, for a person who is used to live in winters with -15C, going to Spain you won't even need to heat in the winter because that's like Autumn for us. I'm already with shorts and sweater outside at 10C and this is your winter in Spain. What do I need heating for inside my house when it's probably 20 degrees inside lol? Everyone's running away from central heating now because that's all on gas. As you can see Europewide, countries who are reliant on gas are in the worst situation and do not even want to imagine how they're going to function in this winter, let alone heat. Also there's no housing issue in Spain because it's not as small like Netherlands for example, which leads to rent not being so high at this economy's stage, as the land can house more people geographically. Spain has a very bright future for where the world is heading. It will probably be one of the most preferred placed to migrate to in the very near future, as we're about to experience the biggest recession of all times in Europe due to this inflation and gas. Nobody will want to live in a cold country from this winter forward.
I personally survive without heating my apartment most of the time, but temperatures do drop to 5 degrees celcius on early winter mornings at times - and even for a Viking like me that is too cold 😅
Spain does get cold in winter and often there is humidity as well. The main problem is that most apartments and houses in Spain have zero insulation in the walls and roof so all the heating goes straight out and it can be colder inside than outside in winter.
I have lived in Spain for more than a decade and i can tell you i agree with every single point
1) The noise is a big problem in Spain specially in the weekends, just dont even think about buying or rent a home near any bar or pubs.
2) Taxes are really high and dificult to save due to a low salaries.
3) The houses are not centrally heated and you can`t even afford it due to a average low salaries again, yes the weather is amazing here but the winter without heating are not really enjoyable.
4) Bureaucracy here measures your patience just , get ready to wait a lot for your administrative things to be done.
5) You can`t say peoples are that bad, not really , instead you`ll find them open and friendly but yeah also nothing of politeness, hyped, yelling for nothing and oftenly rude.
6) No customer service here in Spain ! you`ll spend waiting literally 20 minutes to be attended wherever you go, while the owner or worker finish talking to his friends or to whatever he/she knows
7) And yeah you forgot about the unemployment rate here which the most highest in the Europe and America or world i can say, and it can be due to many reasons.
Also :
The safety, weather , healthcare, unemployment benefit, retirement and Easy language are the strong point of Spain.
Sinceramente, no sé como gustándote tan poco nuestro país llevas aquí más de 10 años.... es bastante ofensivo todo lo que cuentas, ya no de España, sino de los españoles.... por favor si no te gustamos, que haces aquí tanto tiempo?
IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPAIN AND THE SPANISH PEOPLE SO MUCH, THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL, LIVING THERE ? WHY DON'T YOU, JUST GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN ? NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO STAY IN SPAIN.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPAIN AND THE PEOPLE THERE, THEN WHY ARE U STILL LIVING THERE ? YOU CAN ALWAYS LEAVE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO STAY THERE.
THE UK AND AMERICA HAS IT'S OWN DISADVANTAGES THERE WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF, ARE STILL, LIVING IN SPAIN, EVEN THOUGH U ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT, HOW THINGS ARE THERE. THE FACT THAT, YOU ARE STILL, LIVING IN SPAIN, MEANS THAT, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT COUNTRY WHICH IS MUCH BETTER THAN, THE COUNTRY U ORIGINATED FROM.
The high temperature is not pleasent, it will become hotter.
That is 2-3 months per year. The rest of the time it's nice 🌴
En España se pagan 300€ los Autonomos y en USA se pagan 600 $ por un seguro médico incompleto en prestaciones.
Claro, no es mejor en EEUU.... Pero en mi opinión debería ser un porcentaje, no una tasa fija.. Es muy caro ser autonomo y pobre en España.
@@FriiInfo Pero puedes operarte y tratar cualquier enfermedad, estudiar una carrera universitaria por 2000 euros año o menos con beca y tener la mejor asistencia obstétrica y neonatologica y pediátrica casi del mundo, etc.etc.
Decide pagar pocos autónomos, pero pagarte el 80% de la sanidad para ti y tu familia. Es una opción. Todo no se puede tener.
En Suiza el salario minimo 3600€ , en francos suizos, pero el alquiler y sanidad son más de 2000€ Y el transporte carísimo y nada de ir a los bares y restaurantes. Un chocolate suizo😹
@@FriiInfo Los autónomos en España pueden hacer muchas trampas , yo soy española, se desgraban hasta el desayuno que toman en el bar con un amigo.
Yo siempre he tenido mi nómina , estoy jubilada.
Y los servicios fundamentales del país hay que pagarlos. Desde la sanidad a la seguridad etc
It would be interesting to know what culture you are comparing Spain to. I find a lot of videos claiming the winters are cold but then it turns out the Spanish winters are 0- 5 C. Being from north eastern US, loud, cold (-5 - 10F in January) rude, direct, crowds are all things that are normal here. And often take other Americans by surprise.
I'm from Scandinavia.. Way colder than Spain 😀
actually it depends on the building as well. Some modern ones are bad both for summer and winter. Others are completely the opposite.
I'm from Finland and I'm planning to move permanently to southern Spain in a next 2-3 years.
These are some of my OPINIONS (Don't take them as absolute truth).
Also these are my point of views, I understand that not every1 have these same possibilities that I currently have, so that's why maybe many people can't relate I don't know, but if there is someone with the same background and possibilities than I have, then these OPINIONS might give you something to think about.
1) Spanish ppl are loud yes, we as fins mostly aren't. If you are not trying to find new culture experience with the local people and try to integrate with them, then this most likely will not be an issue if you can handle the fact that you most likely find yourself from area among other foreigners (most likely other Europeans and their tourists). For example I don't really care about finding new people or cultures (even tho, I do respect them), I simply want to live somewhere I can be under the sun with the heat. Looping back to the loudness, if you are able to buy a house (villa as they call it) from the area of new build houses only, you most likely won't find many or any Spanish people (I don't know if this is the case with tourist places like Fuengirola if you consider renting apartment, since I'm not about to do so).
Summary: Loudness is not a problem or at least deal breaker if you LIVE among other EU foreigners (or US I feel).
2) Taxes are not the issue (for me). Finland have about the same or even higher taxes. We also have pretty good salaries in the fields like IT where I come from and in which you are able to work from other country to your home country. This is why I would never move to Spain and work for them, since they have big taxes but not even average but low salaries. So even tho we have high taxes, I will earn twice as much for working remotely.
Self-employment I don't have opinion since that's not the case for me and I'm not interested in it.
Summary: If you are able to make enough good living by working remotely to your own country, taxes shouldn't be deal breaker either.
Taxes like buying a house and moving are one time things, so I tolerate them.
3) New build houses now days have usually floor heating and or air heat pump, so "cold" is not an issue.
Also our winters we might have like -20 Celsius, so these so called winters that Spain has (especially in the south), are like warm springs for us.
Summary: If you have a floor heat or air heat pump, you will be fine. (This will cost but it is what it is)
4) Bureaucracy is a problem for me too, and it will make me rip off my hairs but there are a lot of tedious bureaucracy things that you are only doing once like getting NIE, open bank account, arrange your work, moving and starting living in Spain, so they are not deal breakers either, you just need to be patience with them and remember, they are only done ONCE.
Summary: Be patience with bureaucracy.
Thank you so much for sharing all of this 👏
Nice summary, I'm planning to do the same but my home country is Israel and I work as a software engineer and the salaries here are super high so I will be living like a "king" in Spain. The secret for good life is work remotely in a poor economy country.
Hi Antti. I am Spanish who lived in Finland for several years and I have something to say about your statements. I am choosing carefully my words not to get banned from TH-cam. Recommending people to find places in Spain where there are no Spanish people around (and buy property on top of that) is very close to a war declaration. If you don’t want to integrate in Spanish society yet benefit from the geography without paying taxes you’re an invader.
You’re attitude resembles pretty much that one of the English who come to Spain and refuse to learn the language, create ghettos where they display their flag carelessly and cause disturbances when they’re drunk.
When I lived for few years in Finland I tried to integrate in Finnish society, learned the language and had to cope with the ‘silent’, xenophobic, boring Finns. Did I move to a place where there were more no Finns around?, no I didn’t, despite how unwelcome I felt there. If I had to name the countries where foreigners are unwelcome Finland deserves a position in the top three.
And now you come here telling people to come to Spain and avoid the Spanish. Make yourself a favor and reconsider your life choices because you sound quite hostile to me. After all Finland is not that depressing place to live, isn’t it?.
@@dor.332 when you mention “poor economy country” you just compared the GDP of Israel with that one of Spain?
You should be more specific about where in Spain got your experience. There are huge cultural differences between cities and the country, but even more between the south of Spain and the North. About your points:
- 1. Noise: 100% agree, although it's very geography dependent.
- 2. Taxes self-employ: 200% agree, that's the reason so many Spanish people start freelancing "in black".
- 3. Temperatures: absolutely dependent on the North/South geography
- 4. Burocracy: Horrible, not only because inefficient and complex but mostly because arbitrary.
Spain can be bearable if you keep your business activities "under the radar", low-profile. If not it can be a nightmare and there ate better alternatives, like Portugal with a similar climate and culture but with a lighter government much more Nomade/expat-friendly.
True, Spain is a big country :)
i dont think that people moving to spain are really taking into account that the geography of the iberian peninsula matters A LOT. You mentioned the noise for example. Then just go to the north!
True, but if we're talking about moving that far, one might as well go to another country entirely
You make excellent points. The thing about speaking in a direct manner is super interesting. I've learned that I communicate in a direct manner. In my case it's not cultural; it's a personality trait. Those of us who communicate directly are in the minority in the US population so it gets me in trouble. It's good to know I will fit in when I move to Spain. Olé!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like you would fit in just fine then 😃👍☺
AMERICANS ARE VERY LOUD, WHEN THEY TALK, AS WELL. GAS AND ELECTRICITY IS ALSO, VERY EXPENSIVE IN THE UK, AS WELL.
But.... where have you lived in Spain?? The coldest cities in Spain, normally, have or central heating or another system to warm the house......
1:14 not true
In spain you can't make noise after 10pm otherwise neighbors will call the police
I'm not so sure the police would take me seriously if I were to complain about my neighbors slamming doors and watching loud TV...
What about having sex?
Please. I lived there for 22 years. People make lots of noise. Not to mention during fiestas....
Agree on Spanish houses being very cold in winter and noise level, but in the long run it's not so difficult to get used to. Bureaucracy though, is quite ok and becoming more and more digitalized. I used to live in Spain and now I'm in Germany and German bureaucracy is much worse, everything is sent by snail mail. Also Germans are more direct borderline rude than Spanish
Accurate and to the point, I agree with everything stated, it's refreshing
Good to hear 🤗👍
I like the way you addressed the topic very honestly and insightful. I was looking for a video on the negative side of living in Spain and your video was the only one addressing the topic from a perspective of someone who lived in the country and comes from a pretty different culture. Thanks for it! Regarding the inefficiencies, unfortunately I can not agree with you and I can guarantee you I moved here as an Italian without any prejudice. On the contrary I was the one always defending Spain. I experienced a great number of inefficiencies and unreliability from all type of necessary services you need that are making my mind change about wanting to live here. Even if I am Italian, I moved to Spain from Germany and I miss a lot the system there. It cost me so much time, effort and nerves to get things done here. I need to see if the pro are worth these efforts. I wanna also highlight that I live in my own apartment as a owner in Spain so I have to take care of everything. Living in a shared apartment relieves many expats from these experiences because the owner manage that.
Thank you for your perspective 😊 I try to give a *realistic* idea of what it's like to live here as I find a lot of content to be all unicorns and rainbows 😅 regarding the inefficiencies: I have also had my share of problems. But in my experience nothing is impossible, it's just a bit of s hassle sometimes. Maybe I'll make video about my negative experiences specifically.
NIE is not a paper NIE is an identity card where it show u are resident in spain
I'm afraid that's incorrect. NIE has nothing to do with residency. It's also not a card, it's just a number used for identification and tax purposes.
NIE is a number
Obviously I came across to this video because Ive been thinking on emigrating to Spain. Well, I still dunno which visa should I get since I have to weigh the pros & cons of looking for a job whilst im there and to be able to achieve and process my residency.
Im a business & finance graduate and actually planning to take my Masters there but Ive been told that it is quite relatively difficult to land a job in this sector.
Anyways, such an informative content. Cheers!
There are quite a few big international companies in the tech park, maybe you could find a job there ☺
@@FriiInfo That I will have a look through. Tho I still do not know where exactly to go ovet. Do you mimd giving me any advise or tips? Id appreciate it, really
@@HamidSpencer always! :) You could try Oracle, I know a lot of internationals that moved to Spain and got started working there. You could also consider joining the coworking space that I use (The Living Room) - it is an awesome community and great for networking and people are super helpful :)
@@FriiInfo Heyy, I attest that it is indeed helpful and you did share a lot. Really appreciate it! Oh, btw do you use LinkedIn?
@@HamidSpencer glad to hear 😊 yup - you can find me here: www.linkedin.com/in/nina-f-jensen/
I have a family and i pay 9 euro electricity bill per month .. i have a bono
Damn that's nice 💪
THANK YOU for making this video! I’m finding it nearly impossible to ask for information I NEED in order to live a happy life free from the things and people I don’t want to be near. Everyone has that right however, because I strongly prefer not to live near any British whatsoever, I take a lot of heat posting in English, which I also like about as much. Still, you have a valuable resource here and may I please make use of it? Where on the Med are the FEWEST Brits? I find that French and German people are like antibiotics for the Brit and I love them. Spaniards, French, German, Italian, everyone except Brits. Where might I hope to find the least of Brits on the Med? I know that Cádiz is a great choice but is on the Atlanta. If I could find out whether the Ocean currents are safe there, that would open up a new venue. My trip to Málaga was ruined by English speakers, since I went there to study Spanish. It was horrible. Where might be more Spanish? I love the loud Spanish, the vibrant life free of the gray, dull, arrogance of elsewhere.
I think you need to find a remote village in central Spain if you want to avoid English speakers :) Anywhere in the South I think you will find English speakers - even in the villages in the mountains. Go further inland would be my advice.
Another reason for not moving to Spain might be the horrific torture perpetrated by hunters against the Galgo hunting dog including low hangings where the dog's feet just touch the ground. They take days to die. They are often beaten around the genitals to help them on their way. These hangings are celebrated as family outings. Happy travelling.
300 Euros a month or a year ??? be specific !!!
Are you talking about social security? Per month.
That is the reason why i work in switzerland and spend almost all weekend's in Spain.
Switzerland has a great salary, low taxes and the Air tickets to Spain are Cheaper as to spend the weekend in switzerland..
Sounds like a sweet solution
Switzerland low taxes? Is that true?
I move to London 5 years ago, next year I going back to Spain, London it too boring for my
Interesting 👏
I find people in France are loud too, many times I can listen to a conversation between two people standing next to each other over 300 meters away. Luckily I live in the country with very few people around, But I do see it as bad manners, but maybe that is because I'm not French.
Oh no!! You can't just move in!! You have to fill paperwork and apply for an id card, a residence and/or job permit, a healthcare card (feel free not to pls), a social security number, and probably even a bank account! Not to mention all the things they required for opening a business! Like registration and taxes and etc.
How weird! How unheard of!
I guess I could just simply move to Sweden, and apply for nothing!
In some countries you have one only ID number that works for all purposes.
August 2022: Spain has one of the cheapest electricity bills in Europe.
Yea? 😊 That's definitely wasn't the case in the past
Love your brass tacks!!
How come you moved to Spain?
It was the nicest place I was offered a job when I originally moved here 😊
Don't ignore the advantages for Spain.😄
for sure no :)
After living in Spain more that 20 years your last 2 points that you say it's a myth are also true!
Efficiency. Couple of examples, road workers sleep on their machinery or side of road for a siesta then work late working under torchlight to complete the 8 hours! Office workers leave the AC banging away and all the lights on for hours while having siesta then return to work, wasting electricity!
Rudeness. Spanish people don't understand what forming a queue is or waiting in one, check out waterparks or a bar, you will soon see someone shout out, (oye, dos cervezas) trying to enter a road or cross on a zebra, nobody will give way. You will hear buenas días, but you won't hear gracias as often.
I could go on but I'm sure you already know 🤷♂️
The siesta part makes sense for many types of manual labor. Working in the afternoon in the sun can be unbearable.
I think people are good at giving way for the most part 🙂 . But yes, the general level of service and politeness is not always great I agree.
Not tax easy, groceries are expensive, utilities are high, not much saving to move there.
Expensive groceries - well it's all relative I guess. Compared to where? :)
I’ve spent lots of time perhaps 2 years being in Spain much of the time sailing coastwise in the Mediterranean on a US military sealift command commercial charter with a small 21 man crew living aboard a fairly large freighter where everyone got their own room. We spent roughly half of our time anchored out in various Spanish ports while also visiting France and Italy. Spain was the only place where we were allowed to tie up to the pier at the Spanish naval base in Rota across the bay from Cadiz. To me Spain is tourist heaven but I couldn’t imagine trying to live and work there while fitting in to a lot of EU bureaucratic nonsense. On the plus side I took 5 years of Spanish in school and can rapidly teach myself phrases in that language. Nevertheless, the guy in the know, or my bosun, always recommended Morocco over Spain as a place to buy a condo or what have you. I would really prefer to be a drifter spending no more than 90 days in each country rotating on a circuit and most definitely not working or paying taxes in Europe. It might even be best to buy a used sailboat to do this.
Great video! I'm moving to spain and came across your video! Does the flat minimum for social security as an autonomo rise if a person is making say 3000 euro a month? When you say flat, do you mean that everything over the 300 something are voluntary payments?
Hi! There are in the process of changing the social security rates, so the rate would depend on your income (however, I am not sure how far along they are in the process). From what I have seen, I think an income along 3000€ per month would hit the same flat rate as now, but since it doesn't seem to be final yet don't quote me on it. I believe there is a way to pay for more security, but you could also add a private insurance on top depending on what type of coverage you are looking for. Hope that helps!
La verdad es que no hace falta que venga nadie de fuera a España.... ya somos muchos, sobráis.
Spain literally has programs to get people to move there. The government WANTS foreigners moving there.
Se diria por los comentarios aqui que muchos espanoles son hostiles o arrogantes....
They pay almost 300 euros in taxes.. a month? a year?
Hmmm are you referring to social security payments? That is the standard rate if you're self-employed PER MONTH. However, it's been changed and unless you make very little money it's even more than 300€.
Yo estoy de acuerdo Frii mucha gente deberia irse de España la verdad es aqui deberia estar quien quiera estar los demas sobran
Sinceramente, no sé que hacen aquí si tan horrible les parece nuestro país....
En España tenemos una forma de hablar que afortunadamente es rápida y directa, y a la vez es educada y adecuada, la forma de comunicarse las personas de algunos países a mi culturalmente me resultan cursis, amaneradas, rebuscadas, superficiales y torpes por poco prácticas, aunque nunca se me ocurriría criticar que en sus países se traten como mejor les parezca, por eso encuentro una falta de educación que opines negativamente sobre como usamos nuestro idioma en nuestra patria. Sobre el exceso de ruidos estoy de acuerdo, a mi también me molesta, pero te puedo decir que los turistas extranjeros superan con vergonzosa diferencia a los nacionales haciendo ruidos y molestado al prójimo. ...Y siempre podéis volver por donde habéis venido, no nos vamos a ir los españoles para que os sintáis mas cómodos.
Toma ya!.... que gracia, que hablamos alto... cuando los ingleses sobre todo vienen a España son unos becerros . No sé de donde viene esta mujer , su país debe ser una maravilla...
los gringos están muy acostumbrados a lo complacientes y serviciales que pueden ser los trabajadores de habla hispana "que emigran a Estados Unidos". Pero en este caso, en España, ahora ellos son la minoría y por ende los ciudadanos no tienen compromiso de complacerles o adaptarse a ellos. Se quedaron con el cliché de "mi casa es tu casa".
Frii por si te sirve en Bahamas de vive muy bien y se pagan pocos impuestos!!!
Bahamas 🌞
The people of Spain are yes-men
agreed
Nice video how about Estonia and Georgia ?
Sorry, I think I will keep the channel about Spain for now :)
Im estonian and definetly dont recomend moving here. everything is really expensive and salaries are really low
@@ImCJfromgrovest THANKS WILL TRY SOME OTHER COUNTRIES TOO
Why do u think we get to sleep the most??
It's too hot. I'm moving home to Scotland.
Right now - I agree 🤣
I’ve decided I’m moving here.
Good decision ☺️ 🇪🇸
As a Spaniard myself I agree with every point
🤑
Ha ha, the Spanish ARE often rude and can be extremely disrespectful, even racist. There is also often a lack of empathy. Manners and respect are often in short supply and foreigners are often seen as bank accounts and not people or human beings. Customer service is often non-existent. Smoking is prevalent pretty much everywhere you go and so is dog poop on sidewalks/pavements. Ofcourse there are many great things about Spain, but since you are talking about the cons, I would say these are important ones to consider as well.
Having to avoid I-don't-know-how-many dog poops this morning I concur 😅
Wow!
Love the fact that the video made you go wow
España esta bien
Comparado con estados unidos te digo que no
where are you from Frii??
Originally Denmark
@@FriiInfo obviamente el caracter español y el danés no tiene nada que ver. Normal que te extrañen ciertas cosas..
y más si has vivido en Málaga.... tal vez en Madrid, Barcelona o ciudades más grandes la vida no sea tan similar a la de ciudades más pequeñas como Málaga y con un carácter tan andaluz....
i was born in Madrid, Spain, and moved to Florida when I was just 3 years old. 10 years later, my mom is was having second thoughts on whether we should stay in Florida anymore since my aunt has [assed away recently (she was living in Maryland at the time). now she's sure that she wants to take me back to Spain this summer and I've already told her so many times that I don't want to. ever since the third grade, I was in advanced and gifted classes, which don't even exist in Spain. skipping a grade would make sense but that's not an option in Spain either. spain's school system is really messed up, and my education and grades are my top priority. I don't even care about being closer to my cousin and family. he doesn't give a fuck about school and that would just give me a negative influence. not to mention, I barely even speak Spanish. I'm already at the age where learning a new language is impossible. I hate Spain and everyone in it, even my stupid family that's forcing me to go back there.
i could go on and on and on but one other thing I'm gonna add here is that houses in Spain are suuuper small. they're not even houses, just apartments. currently, my parents and I are living in a 2 story home (excluding basement) with a huge lake where ducks and turtles can roam around and a pool that's shared by my neighborhood. in Spain, this would be practically be considered a mansion because apartments are so common there.
@@2.fatducksis it your family so wealthy?
@@manuelfg2902 no, my parents are just renting the house so it'll be cheaper
@@2.fatducks ah ok, what city are you, if i may ask
Are you 13 years old? Tell your mum that she should wait until you are, at least, 18 y/o. I moved from Spain to UK because Spain is the worst European country where to grow and thrive. My two children are also gifted and the mandatory education level in Spain was low and too obsessed with "equality" (in the bad sense).
I understand that it's not your choice, but you should try to negotiate with your mother to be there a few years more, at least until you have to go the university. In Spain there are very good universities and their fees are much lower than in US or UK, you should use these years to improve your Spanish language. Tell your mother that she really should consider waiting a bit, if she moved to provide you with a better future, moving back now will waste all your past effort. Good luck.
Frii yo que tu me iria!!
And the Canary Islands? 🇮🇨 It’s Spain too
Of course 🇪🇸
@@FriiInfo And why don't they appear on the map of Spain that you show in your video?
@@ixora04 Because this particular animated video map of Spain didn't show them. But some of the videos are from the canaries so in that sense they are well represented.
@@FriiInfo Well then, and this is my opinion. You should have looked for one in which the Canary Islands appeared because when you talk about Spain you must talk about the Canarian island🇮🇨 territory in this case and Ceuta and Melilla.
As for what you say in your video, taxes are true, but we pay less than in other countries and we have universal public health, rude? Have you been to all parts of Spain to say that? In the Canary Islands, are we rude, for example?
I don't mention the other aspects because they seem too insignificant to me (noise in the street or the park with children
oh my god what a crime)
and an excuse to pad content.
The presentation of your video with the map of my country and my flag 🇪🇦crossed out is UNFORTUNATE at best.
@@ixora04 I think you have misunderstood my points in the video :) If you have animated stock footage that also highlights the canaries in particular you are very welcome to forward them to my email and I will gladly use them in the future.
I think all your points are valid except for taxes in Spain, i agree with the government, if you are a low income earner you should pay more as a percentage in taxes than someone earning higher incomes. It promotes the idea of working harder, learning skills and being less of a burden on society. While salaries are not as high as some other countries the cost of living in Spain is great, healthy living and high quality and life expectancy, it’s not for everybody but it’s worth trying even just too learn some Spanish.
Hard work doesn't necessarily mean more money. I would argue that setting the social security flat rate that high discourages people from becoming self-employed as you start out every month from minus 300 and not from 0.
i found the taxes too much
@Forty Seven if have million or few, you would hate to part with 300lk euros more than you need to...plus a host of " indirect taxes"...it makes a massive difference..that is why despite harping on about it, the big banks from the uk did not move to Europe after brexit...The taxes in most eu countries were astronomical...
Can a uk resident living in france move to spain full time ?
Galgo dogs Wikipedia.
Eso; eso no vengáis España no vale nada!😱
No? 🙃
You got dots on i's well placed...noise can't stand it in Southern Europe looks like they are on constant yell mode in streets and even indoors!
En España la gente no habla, la gente chilla y grita 🤣
Si tu lo dices 🙈😆
No se en que parte de España has vivido, lo del ruido se lo dejamos a loa britanicos y demas individuos sin civilizar que nos visitan.
Claro los turistas son ruidosas pero mis vecinos (todos españoles) también.
@@FriiInfo no cozco a ningun Español que moleste con ruido, y tengo mis años.
Que comentario más estúpido
@@sandrachao72 Pues si
This is a red flag. I don't want to go to a xenophobic country. Your comment shows you are xenophobic and reflects badly on you and other Spaniards.
Someone is jealous here... 😆😉😝
Yea? 😅
Also, Spain is a big ash tray: everybody smokes everywhere at all times.
Yea? I haven't noticed that 😊
Im from spain and i agree all points, spain is beautiful place to visit but if you live in USA, France and more, you shouldn't come to live to Spain ALL is so EXPENSIVE
Cost of living in Spain is lower than the u.s.
@@sunnyday6679 But in usa the when the people work have more money than the people that work in spain
Pufff
the magic dragon? 🙃
Spain is the best country in the World.
🇪🇦🥳
exMichigan in Spain 🇪🇸 since 2000. Have public health service, don't need two or three jobs like in USA. Have paid vacaciones and other holidays off. ( Not in the USA) unless you work large corpoation or gov't job. Enjoy traveling to villages. Castles etc.
BS
Okay then? ☺
Muy Bien Aqui ! Todo correcto. Youth Unemployment is another Contra, Terrible driving, inefficient councils, Taxes are self-defeating, driving many into the Black Market. Weather cannot make up for All the Downsides. Too many Bandits now, Too many moroc/roma stealing continually versus Lazy Plod. Prices have nearly met the UK RipOff. Adios to the dream ;-(
I guess we have to focus on the positives! "Taxes are self-defeating, driving many into the Black Market" = YES - very well put!!
They are trying to build a lie of some inconveniences that all the countries of Europe have( Especially UK where its capital has a Muslim mayor, like many other cities. It's not true about the black market. I don't know what you say about bandits .. The only bandit is you)
Youth unemployment affects the South of Spain more. However, there is news every day in the media that hundreds of thousands of workers are needed but employers cannot find them.
Each city council works in a different way, you don't know the more than 8,000 city councils in the country. Perhaps you know one or two from the South of Spain.
SPAIN, 2ND EU COUNTRY WITH THE BEST DIGITAL PUBLIC SERVICES
www.thisistherealspain.com/en/spain-in-the-world/competitiveness/spain-2nd-eu-country-with-the-best-digital-public-services
The UK's problem is not food prices, but housing prices, and the UK definitely needs many more years of work to buy a beachfront house.
Summarizing that Spain has a good climate, is having your head a bit empty. You failed to say that alcohol is not good.
Spain is one of the safest countries in the world.
In the North of Spain there are about 8 homicides a year, and in Denmark with the same population there are 70 homicides a year.
Even large cities like Madrid or Barcelona have much lower crime rates than London or similar cities.
The Health System is one of the best in the world
semesur.com/en/blog-en/spains-healthcare-system-is-one-of-the-best-in-the-world
www.linkedin.com/pulse/spains-healthcare-system-best-europe-albert-visiedo
Spain is one of the first countries in the world in terms of gender equality (It is the country in Europe with more women governing)
www.forbes.com/sites/anagarciavaldivia/2019/12/20/spain-enters-the-worlds-top-10-for-gender-equality/
It is one of the countries in the world in acceptance of sexual diversity
According to the UN, it is the fifth best country in the world to live
www.yourviva.com/blog/spain-fifth-best-country-to-live-in
It is the first country in the world with the most organ donations.
It is the healthiest country in the world according to Bloomberg.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-24/spain-tops-italy-as-world-s-healthiest-nation-while-u-s-slips
Spain is one of the countries with the longest life expectancy in the world. (Madrid is the city with the longest life expectancy, surpassing Tokyo)
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31694-5/fulltext#%20
Third country in the world with the most World Heritage sites. Only after China and Italy.
www.thisistherealspain.com/en/spain-in-the-world/culture/spain-is-the-third-country-with-the-most-unesco-world-heritage-sites/
According to some statistics, Spain is the best country in the world to travel alone.
1st in Blue Flag Beaches of the World.
SPAIN - THIRD RANKED COUNTRY IN TERMS OF MOST INCLUSIVE INTERNET
www.thisistherealspain.com/en/spain-in-the-world/innovation/spain-ranks-third-inclusive-internet-index/
www.thisistherealspain.com/en/modernity/spain-a-country-connected-in-record-time
Spain has the second largest network in the world in high-speed trains, only from China. And the number 1 in kilometers per capita.
Spain ranks first in Europe in kilometers of motorways and expressways, and most of them are free.
The Spanish airline is the most punctual in the world, for two years in a row.
english.elpais.com/elpais/2015/04/10/inenglish/1428654100_152443.html
Spain ranks first in biosphere reserves
www.spain.info/en/query/spain-biosphere-reserves/
thecorner.eu/news-europe/spain-leader-in-fibre-optic-to-homes-in-europe-with-1-6-million-subscribers-in-one-year/70981/
Spain is the European country with the highest fiber to the home (FTTH) penetration rate in Europe.
How the Basque Country has become a world power in education.
www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-36550903
etc
Spain is a declining nation and getting worse and house break ins are a serious problem now
I guess that you, as every British, live on the coast, where there is more unemployment and black market and thieves. Maybe in Alicante? I've lived in Liverpool, Wales, London and Birmingham so imagine what if I tell everyone that UK is full of drank people who stabs you on the streets.
Spain is also very susceptible to climate change. People should keep that in mind before moving as the world gets hotter.