Does OLED Matter? Steam Deck VS ALLY X

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  • @MichaelLochowitz
    @MichaelLochowitz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I just wish the Ally had a slightly bigger screen. With some games the text is just a little too small, but it is at least very clear. I think 7.5-8” would be fantastic.

    • @JudahiamKng
      @JudahiamKng 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agree I have both Rog ally X and a portal that 8 inch display makes a huge difference especially with seeing words

    • @kamalprime9307
      @kamalprime9307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The screen 7 on x looks like the older deck

  • @Evobed562
    @Evobed562 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1:09 who else is guilty of sniffing their vents ? Lol! I agree OLED is the best in colors/contrast hands down. Then again these are gaming devices so Asus sticking to vrr is a no brainer it'll just add smoothness to our beloved games and enhance the experience, at least they went with a decent LCD that has pretty good colors compared to the other dull LCDs. This is just the beginning of handheld gaming PCs I know for sure we will see an OLED vrr 120hz+ in the future 👌👌

  • @illogik
    @illogik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    You guys feed off each other so well. The chemistry can’t be duplicated.

  • @nathanjuan6042
    @nathanjuan6042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Sharper and crisper image due to that 1080p with VRR for smoother gameplay is perfect for me add the fact that it has AMD fluid motion its hard to change for different handheld. Although I wish for the next ally 2 hopefully we can have bigger screen for more immersive gameplay.

    • @d0minant24
      @d0minant24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I use to want a bigger screen but now, I hope they stick with 7”, maybe 8” at max . I use XR glasses when I need a bigger screen and I’d rather not have too much weight on my hands and make it less portable.

    • @nathanjuan6042
      @nathanjuan6042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@d0minant24 Fair enough. I do love my Ally for its portability. However, they could still make the screen bigger without increasing the device size by making the bezels thinner.

    • @Abizzy84
      @Abizzy84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      $800 for Asus Rog X? A midrange gaming laptop are from $950 to $1300! The GIGABYTE G6 (2024) is $950 at Best buy and Amazon! The Steamdeck Oled is still the best handheld, the Steamdeck can play more games NOT just indie games!

    • @d0minant24
      @d0minant24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Abizzy84 a gaming laptop != a gaming handheld. Two totally different gaming experiences. Also, the Deck OLED is the best for indie games. It’s not the most performant handheld out there for AAA games and heavy emulation like Switch / PS3. It’s a $250 difference between the 512GB Deck OLED, which isn’t a totally fair comparison as the Ally X has 1TB and has a 2280 SSD which is much cheaper to upgrade in the future than a 2230. The 1TB Deck OLED is only $150 cheaper than the Ally X. Also, don’t forget that with Windows, you have access to GamePass and MANY other launchers where you can get games much cheaper than the locked ecosystem of Steam that you have to out with as a Deck user.

    • @nathanjuan6042
      @nathanjuan6042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Abizzy84 Dude, a laptop needs a desk and a mouse to play a game. We're talking about a handheld-something you can use in bed, on the couch, easily take anywhere, and fit in any bag. A laptop is still heavier and bigger than a handheld. The Deck struggles with modern AAA games, and that’s a fact. I have a gaming laptop, but I use my Ally more because it’s more portable. The best part is, I don’t need to switch back to my laptop for more demanding games. I do a lot of productivity work on my laptop, with multiple files and tabs open, so I prefer having a separate device just for gaming

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    It just really depends on the game. Say a Hi-Fi Rush with good calibration can pop even on an LCD. But play a Resident Evil 7 in dark areas and OLED obliterates anything else. As a fan of horror games, there’s no other type of panel I can tolerate.

  • @d0minant24
    @d0minant24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    You guys hit the nail on the head on this comparison. I upgraded from Deck OLED to Ally X and easily the 1080p VRR is a much more pleasant (and sharp) experience for me than the OLED non-VRR 800p of the Deck. Not even just for PC AAA games, but the way the Ally handles VRR on Switch emulation with all of it’s hiccups and stutters, it’s a much smoother experience playing on Ally than it was on Deck.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Haven't tried any emulation on my ALLY X yet but that's a really good point! VRR is a godsend and I really hope we see an OLED VRR in a couple years on an ALLY 2 for example!

    • @louissolano9929
      @louissolano9929 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      💯 had a SD Oled myself and switched to Ally X. Yes OLED pops and wish Asus shrunk the bezels like Valve did, but the 1080p, VRR, performance, and ability to dualboot is solid to where I don’t regret the switch. I have a desktop PC as well so having the X feels like a true extension of my PC on the go.

    • @hk6926
      @hk6926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's not an upgrade , that's a downgrade lol . 7 inch micro screen .

    • @harissonbond7499
      @harissonbond7499 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would VRR fix remote play streaming stutters ?

    • @hk6926
      @hk6926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@harissonbond7499 no it wouldn't.

  • @MrSupersonic2012
    @MrSupersonic2012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The OLED screen is really good. Compared to your standard LCD there's competition. The Ally X is tempting for the extra performance, and amazing battery life. But $800 is steep. I'll most likely get one when it goes on sale.

    • @JudahiamKng
      @JudahiamKng 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The reason it’s 800 because it’s an actual PC which means you can do more with it. Not to mention Asus has to make a profit where as with the steamdeck valve is using it to make a profit off its OS using SteamOs

    • @MrSupersonic2012
      @MrSupersonic2012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JudahiamKng $800 is still expensive for what it is. Which is why I'll wait. It's been pretty successful, Asus is most likely making a profit. The price will go down that's usually how it works for stuff like this. The white Ally used to cost more and it went down in price. Even the original Steam Deck LCD went down in price when they introduced OLED.

  • @l.radicchi
    @l.radicchi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Playing Geforce now on steam deck OLED is just incredible.

  • @spaceandsky1829
    @spaceandsky1829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Simply put if you can afford it and want the best handheld right now buy ally x if your happy for some compromises get the SD and be happy with either

  • @anotherdenin
    @anotherdenin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hilarious how one guy profusely agrees with the other while one is talking 😂😂

  • @danielwick6088
    @danielwick6088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Back then everyone was Mad when we got an Switch Oled instead of a Pro, now Moving forward we got an Rog Ally thats kinda a Pro with better specs but People are mad that it has no Oled 😂😂

  • @01kmacias
    @01kmacias 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Cool video.
    I'm seeing this become a console war though. I know people want to defend their purchase, but dang, be happy with what you have. Some other handheld with be crowned king next year. It makes sense that a new and more expensive device is going to perform better. Personally, I have the Steam Deck Oled and don't feel the need to upgrade yet. I bought it to compliment my pc and serves that purpose very well :)

    • @nathanjuan6042
      @nathanjuan6042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s refreshing to see an honest Deck user. Most Deck users are in denial and bash every new handheld that comes out, making their community seem very toxic. What you said is true, and this is the first time I’ve agreed with a comment from a Deck user

    • @01kmacias
      @01kmacias 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nathanjuan6042 I agree with you. Getting upset about a new handheld being better is a waste of energy. We all benefit from it. Now we’ll likely see a cool update to the LeGo. And maybe the Steam Deck later too. Competition is healthy. All these consoles do roughly the same thing, but they all excel in different ways. I play mostly indies and strategy games, so an easier to use, less expensive, and oled device with trackpads makes a lot of sense for me. But the steam deck oled won’t make sense for someone trying to max out their fps. Different strokes for different folks.

  • @jimmytimber7074
    @jimmytimber7074 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do prefer OLED. I have a Samsung G8 OLED for my main rig and a lg C1 for a TV. OLED is pretty amazing but honestly not having OLED on the ally x doesn't really bother me. Its a nice screen and for a handheld its just fine.

  • @Justin-dp7pg
    @Justin-dp7pg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Absolutely torn on which one to keep. The Steam Deck OLED is better for emulation due to the screen size. Old 4:3 games are tiny on the already small screen of the Ally. However AAA games play amazing on the Ally amd AFMF2 nealry doubles the frames in some games. Given that i have a 4090 PC i'm leaning towards the deck. Just an overall better emulation experience.

  • @christycho9871
    @christycho9871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for finally covering what I've been talking about since I picked up the Ally! VRR is super important. I play a variety of games and many of them will fluctuate instead of being a constant fsp. I can't go back to screen tearing. The heck with OLED. Screen tearing aint worth it.

  • @cborel83
    @cborel83 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the Oled smells better

  • @vladstark2091
    @vladstark2091 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does VRR matter if you lock 40 or 30 fps anyway???

    • @felippedias5446
      @felippedias5446 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, you can configure to VRR to a range between 28 and 42 Hz for example, this will not show any hiccups during gameplay, if it has any.

  • @Respectmyskill07
    @Respectmyskill07 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for being the first TH-camr to answer this question and actually do a side-by-side comparison. Seeing the displays side by side, you realize the OLED isn't much better, thus making the ROG Ally the better handheld with no compromises.

  • @steveford1070
    @steveford1070 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ROG used LCD so they can release an oled in 6 months

    • @liksoonlo
      @liksoonlo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ROG Ally X Pro MAX

  • @DariusPL
    @DariusPL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I love “retina” pixel density and VRR but you could also argue that once you go OLED, it’s hard to go back. I think you are massively underplaying the OLED’s advantage in darker games or games with HDR. Come on, stating that an edge-lit IPS doesn’t induce a feeling “damn, I wish it was OLED” in such games once you have actually tasted OLED gaming is just ridiculous. Plus, there are already complaints about squeaking/stuck buttons on the Ally X and other QC issues. No trackpads, Windows on a handheld (great compatibility but crappy UX), no case included, higher price, I could go on… I think they are roughly on par - Ally as a “full fat PC replacement” and Deck as a user friendly “PC console” for couch or mobile gaming, complementing your gaming PC. BTW, watch the latest DF video on VRR. It’s super useful but please don’t mislead people telling them that 40 or 60 FPS (or 40-60 FPS fluctuations) with adaptive sync looks virtually the same, like you are trying to imply in your video. No, it does not, and VRR cannot magically fix it.

    • @rodrigokokito2014
      @rodrigokokito2014 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      No VRR is a no for me. Eurogamer/IGN is a huge promoter of the Steam Deck and the Ps5, no surprise suddenly VRR is "not as good as people think".

    • @Abizzy84
      @Abizzy84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      $800 for Asus Rog X? A midrange gaming laptop are from $950 to $1300! The GIGABYTE G6 (2024) is $950 at Best buy and Amazon! The Steamdeck Oled is still the best handheld, the Steamdeck can play more games NOT just indie games!

    • @JudahiamKng
      @JudahiamKng 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Abizzy84you have no clue Wtf you are talking about. The steamdeck can’t play more games than the rog

    • @robharrie
      @robharrie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Abizzy84why do people simp for a company lol, have some respect for yourself

    • @divertiti
      @divertiti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      VRR is a game changer. OLED steam deck is good for casual who don't care about performance or gameplay smoothness. Ally x is good for actual gamers

  • @jamesfisher7426
    @jamesfisher7426 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love my ally x. Didn't get on with my legion go as well. Too big and too clunky.

  • @UnrequitedLove23
    @UnrequitedLove23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Once you get a taste of OLED HDR gaming, there is no going back.

    • @JudahiamKng
      @JudahiamKng 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That’s kinda true and kinda not when it comes to VRR. Gaming at higher frames makes games much enjoyable

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not really. I can still go back to LCDs but pretty much all of them are fairly high quality LCD panels

    • @hk6926
      @hk6926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂​@@crestofhonor2349

    • @christycho9871
      @christycho9871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes there is. Screen tearing is the worst. The Ally's LCD screen is definatley good enough.

    • @arclight7892
      @arclight7892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@christycho9871 Asus really missed the opportunity to use an oled screen for the ally x. It would have been near perfect with vrr, oled screen, hdr, 120hz, 1080p and 80wh battery.

  • @alh5470
    @alh5470 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    oled tv,oled monitor,oled switch, oled deck and oled psvr2 ... oled has ruined me... i picked the deck over the ally x purely for the screen... no regerts.

  • @yamazakitakahiro5515
    @yamazakitakahiro5515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a steam deck fanboy, I have to admit they did a good job with the X. I would get it over the deck, if not for that crime against humanity which is Windows… Great hardware

    • @JudahiamKng
      @JudahiamKng 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes windows is terrible but here is the pros with windows over Linux is you can do more with it. It was also confirmed by Valve that SteamOS is coming to the Rog ally and you have other alternatives like Bazzite

    • @JudahiamKng
      @JudahiamKng 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes windows is terrible but here is the pros with windows over Linux is you can do more with it. It was also confirmed by Valve that SteamOS is coming to the Rog ally and you have other alternatives like Bazzite

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bazzite is great with it if you don't like windows. Although windows issues are greatly overexaggerated with these devices

    • @kamalprime9307
      @kamalprime9307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But if you had sd oled you don't need to buy ally x

    • @asunavk69
      @asunavk69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@crestofhonor2349 about windows trueish, i will be honest.
      That aside i just like linux and we so are need of some competition, a balance, alternatives, mb more feel this way too when leaving such opinions.
      Altho there are more reasons i prefer linux, but ye.

  • @Icyblue11-k4n
    @Icyblue11-k4n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It depends on the game but generally on AAA games, higher resolution LCD screen + better processor > lower resolution OLED + worse processor.

  • @hk6926
    @hk6926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Asus please help this channel with sponsorship, they are literally crying for it 😂😂

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are... I feel a public compaign coming ;)

    • @hk6926
      @hk6926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@128KB hahah best of luck

  • @nawafsohsk6611
    @nawafsohsk6611 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey 128KB team, your tech insights are always super helpful! With 2024 bringing us so many cool handheld options, I’m torn between the Steam Deck OLED and the regular ASUS ROG Ally. For your next video, it’d be awesome if you could do a deep dive comparison to see which one of both is more worthy in 2024. Your breakdowns always make these tough choices easier. Looking forward to your thoughts!

  • @LaymanGamin
    @LaymanGamin หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have deck oled with huge ssd and love it. But I want ally x too but don’t u need to be a computer wiz to do all the updating n drivers for windows ? I heard that rog ally x isn’t made for controller or portrait n it’s always janky to get it right. Is all this true???

  • @JudahiamKng
    @JudahiamKng 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes OLED is very hard to leave once your eyes leave the display the colors pop so well, however when it comes to that VRR that’s where the deck loses me. Being able to play games at 100+ fps and the smoothness of the gameplay is hard to pass up

  • @AIM1986
    @AIM1986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great content guys. Have you experienced squeaky triggers on any of your units? I got mine on launch day but had been dealing with a squeaky RT. Now waiting for a new replacement. Love the Ally X but it appears to be fairly common issue and not acceptable at £799.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you! Yeah I get you. No squeaky triggers on my personal unit, sometimes the spring can be heard but I don't notice unless the volume is off, I'll likely just reseat it myself! Hope your replacement comes soon!

    • @d0minant24
      @d0minant24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a squeaky RT. I didn’t trade mine in though or return it. It’s not that audible to hear it unless I put my ear next to the trigger.

    • @AIM1986
      @AIM1986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@128KB Unfortunately my RT spring was way more audible than that & I'm coming from console gaming so not quite plucked up the courage to open it up....yet (although your guide was great). Any chance of you doing some content on VRR docks?

    • @jinx20001
      @jinx20001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      yep mine had the squeeky trigger, i opened it up to install a new nvme so while i was at it i put a smidge of copper grease on the spring using a q-tip and gave it a press a few times and the squeek is gone... it seems to be extremely common and i agree not acceptable for the price.

    • @liksoonlo
      @liksoonlo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tofu dreg.

  • @SayanOfRagnarok
    @SayanOfRagnarok 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think one thing no one talks about is the high letency with vrr enabled. So sure your games look smoother, but the input lag is worse

  • @ahurtado62
    @ahurtado62 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the Lenovo legion go and it looks absolutely gorgeous it’s like play on 1440p hi refresh rate monitor. Idk why no one talks about it more

  • @squiffzor
    @squiffzor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    People who whine about VRR and extra fps haven't experienced it. Once you've played 60+ fps going back to 30 is gross. If I'm paying £800 I'm looking for performance and tech that impacts actual gameplay, not a shiny OLED.

  • @Andorski
    @Andorski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Owned a LCD Steam Deck and upgraded when the OLED came out. Love the system...
    In 2024 I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who's looking to play anything more than small indie games. AAA games within the last year or so are struggling to keep a stable 30fps on the Deck. It's to the point where Deck players have to wait for benchmarks for any AAA game that comes out to see if it's actually playable.
    With the Ally X you don't have to do that for the next couple of years.

    • @danielaltamirano322
      @danielaltamirano322 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I returned my og ally for the steam deck oled and still regret that. I’m not really into indie games and all the AAA games I have struggle. I’ll be waiting for the next ally.

  • @artemis_9741
    @artemis_9741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for my second handheld, I already have the switch oled, I'm trying to decide between getting the SD old and ROG Ally X, im totally okay with fiddling with settings and stuff. Any advice?

  • @jessewarren9109
    @jessewarren9109 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The OLED is great don't get me wrong. Wonderful for indie games and low end stuff. Ask it to do anything more modern and it works but its 720P 30FPS. Is that really what you want to be playing at in 2024?

  • @JustStay16
    @JustStay16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s how I feel about the ally x screen compared to the legion go screen. I can’t unsee how small the screen is after using the legion go. I wish ally did at 8 inch screen it be perfect device.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah 8" would be epic on the Ally X

  • @jadebrady5826
    @jadebrady5826 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will get through the video but before I forget… what case are you using for the ROG??

  • @brokensword2621
    @brokensword2621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This depends on what kind of games you play on your device. If you are mostly on 2d and lite 3d games or emulators like me, steam deck is way better and easier to use. Also, the oled panel is a great bonus for me in this situation. But for modern and heavy games, rog Ally x is better because of better hardware.

  • @pierrebello4702
    @pierrebello4702 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you try oled you can not go back , so yes it is matter . I sold my rog ally x and my legion go to keep only the steam deck, cause for the same job the screen change everything

  • @Dr.D00p
    @Dr.D00p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I dont care so much about OLED. I just know 16:10 aspect ratio is far superior to 16:9.
    OLED Screens only uses more power when it's combined with VRR. ASUS could have one, but not both. They valued VRR more than OLED so they stuck with LCD.

    • @DeathJerrie
      @DeathJerrie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was hoping they would point that out (at the beginning) when talking about power efficiency. OLED is generally better than LCD, when it comes to power consumption. The reason Asus chose the LCD screen over an OLED was purely because VRR OLEDs specifically don't work like they should.

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DeathJerrie OLED panels consume more power overall. They are not more efficient. The only time OLED panels are more efficient is when showing dark colors and black

  • @Philantronic
    @Philantronic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you store your Rog Ally X? Do you have an advice on a Travel/Storage Case?

    • @kaiichinose9590
      @kaiichinose9590 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I got the Tom toc carry case they make for the og ally for my Ally x and it still fits perfect and even still with a case on it from Amazon.

    • @Philantronic
      @Philantronic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kaiichinose9590 Yeah. But I heard it can damage the sticks? Are you sure you can use it? I would love to buy that as I love TomToc. But they removed the compatiblity from their website. What you think?

    • @paulsegrue5133
      @paulsegrue5133 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just got the Ally X premium hard case by Asus, definitely worth the £35

  • @GamerEnLinux
    @GamerEnLinux 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for me I would prefer VRR over OLED 100% times. OLED is not bad but not the best thing. is just a good value thing.

  • @MikJames-d1g
    @MikJames-d1g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not just LCD vs OLED, it's low contrast LCD vs OLED. A VA panel would be fine for most people, the best VA panels have ~5x the contrast of IPS.
    You're on a brightly lit set and I can still spot the OLED even in a daylight scene, it's just that much better. The difference in darker games under darker lighting is night and day.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We're actually comparing VRR technology VS OLED and what's more important when gaming, not just LCD VS OLED.

    • @MikJames-d1g
      @MikJames-d1g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @128KB
      Indeed, and it depends on your definition of "gaming". In my experience, it's more important to have a variety of refresh available to lock too than to have it variable, and SD Oled certainly has you covered there. In any case, you can't just pick and choose one aspect for "gamerz" who just want to play fortnight. Gamers who enjoy single player games and image quality do exist, and they're far better off with an OLED.
      I'm being charitable to LCD though, it's not that it couldn't be done properly with a VA panel. The industry is just set on IPS for outdated marketing reasons.

  • @jenzfc
    @jenzfc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love my Ally X. Wish it had OLED, sure, but the screen is great enough that does not bother me at all.
    VRR all day though.

    • @LaymanGamin
      @LaymanGamin หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard the screen looks hella small n hard to read text. Is this true?

  • @SayanOfRagnarok
    @SayanOfRagnarok 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the ally, but I can't support Asus, which isn't a great company or gamer friendly anymore. The horror stories online as far as customer service and warrenty service is why I can't justify the price. You spend 800 and have to pray nothing fails because there's a low chance Asus will fix it without charging you an arm and a leg.

    • @doomedthunder6638
      @doomedthunder6638 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s what kept me from buying one. I think there are a lot of companies like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, ETC but I’m glad they are being exposed for terrible customer support.

  • @XxvaxionxX
    @XxvaxionxX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being able to play at 60fps matters but OLED does not. A pretty good quality IPS display can come pretty close to OLED except for the blacks levels. ROG Ally display is pretty good quality and it's sound system is just on another level that I've never seen anywhere on any handheld.
    It's the perfect handheld and that's why even Steam is supporting it with Steam OS made for Ally.

  • @brandonjohnson4962
    @brandonjohnson4962 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great points! I need to see both screens but you may have just chanhed my mind. What do you think about the fact that you can get an OLED deck for $550 but there is only a $800 model of the Ally X? Still feel like the Ally wins out? Im thinking about buying one but cant decide which.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly it depends on what games you want to play on it. If you want the best performance and AAA games, then hands down the Ally X is the way to go. If you play more indie's or older games etc, then SD Oled is epic.

  • @zomg346
    @zomg346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    iam still waiting for my x and onexgpu to arrive but i had oled deck before hopefully its just as comfy

  • @MrCeelo122
    @MrCeelo122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Say if I want this for some AAA games and emulators which one would be the best? The base models for both are on sale right now for $399??

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ally X is better

    • @alexh7513
      @alexh7513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% rog ally. You get up to 50 % more power for the same price and the VRR screen.

  • @Bikertyke
    @Bikertyke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Oled Deck as gone. Couldn't justify keeping it. Absolutely love the Ally X. Don't miss it. But would dual boot if steam os comes to the Ally X. Just to have the best of both. Won't be installing bazzite

  • @MrIchikun21
    @MrIchikun21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what means VRA ??

  • @johnarigi11
    @johnarigi11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to hear your take on legion go vs rog ally especially the display. You have both covered well the display for SD OLED vs VRR on the rog ally

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I much prefer the Ally's screen for VRR and the fact that it's 1080p. 1080p looks much sharper than running at 1920x1200 on the Legion Go's screen

    • @alexh7513
      @alexh7513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very simple. Rog Ally has VRR and legion go has no VRR. So the rog ally is better.

  • @Yamatoshinjimoto
    @Yamatoshinjimoto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got the steam deck oled and I love it for what it is, and having come from an oled switch it was a great leap. But I need more performance and frames. I want to play halo infinite at 60fps, destiny 2 at 60fps, cyberpunk at 60fps locked those are my three favourite games and are the ones that would swing me. I am thinking of getting an ally x because the vrr sounds like it would help in those kinds games but the legion go has a really big screen and I think it might just be powerful enough to lock the fps to 60 without vrr in most situations. I'm conflicted.

  • @jakesmith5278
    @jakesmith5278 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The price is what really matter.

  • @l.radicchi
    @l.radicchi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If PS5 Pro at 700 is too expensive, this thing at 800 quid... impossible.

  • @Vanxiety12
    @Vanxiety12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    OLED is insanely amazing!

  • @alexh7513
    @alexh7513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most new big games only run at 30-50 fps on these handhelds. So VRR is better. If the games run with stable 45 or more then i would choose oled. The best would be an oled VRR screen.
    But to do nothing with the screen on the ally x was a wrong move. They should have made it a little bigger (less bezels) and a little brighter (600 nits). So we have a small upgrade with the screen at least. The iPad Pros are using a 600 nits ips display since 2017, so it should be possible in 2024.

  • @kingofsurvival6680
    @kingofsurvival6680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Steam deck is better in terms of optimisation

    • @Mmmmmk247
      @Mmmmmk247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Better optimized deck still doesn’t make it outperform the x though

    • @kaizel2264
      @kaizel2264 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Mmmmmk247 it is a Better User Experience and Better support Lol And Asus Suck ass as A Company

    • @nathanjuan6042
      @nathanjuan6042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Ally can boot into Bazzite OS if you prefer Linux, and it will perform great. You can also switch back to Windows when a game doesn’t work on Linux. In contrast, the Deck is really only optimized for Steam OS because its processor is custom-made for it, which is why it performs worse when booted into Windows. Additionally, Steam OS will eventually come to the Ally, making it the most flexible handheld with support for three operating systems. Plus, it offers better performance, a superior screen, longer battery life, and better speakers, along with VRR support that eliminates stutters when a game fluctuates below 60fps.

    • @kingofsurvival6680
      @kingofsurvival6680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nathanjuan6042 yes but for people that don't like constantly tweaking windows and updating the deck is much better so for me the win goes to deck

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not really. The Deck isn't more optimized in anything. Games don't run better on the Deck anyways and no PC game is specifically optimized for the Deck. Any game that is optimized to run on the deck well will also see those improvements on any other PC

  • @Coreygunz252
    @Coreygunz252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do love my steam deck. But I’ll be honest I can’t play a lot of old-school games. I love splinter cell and it can’t play splinter cell. Therefore I’ll just have to settle for the rogue ally X! I put 9.5 TB in my Ally X can’t do that with the steam deck!

    • @glennpenzone145
      @glennpenzone145 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why can’t you play old games on the oled? I’m debating on the Steam Deck oled or ally x. Purchasing this week I hope if I can come to a decision.

    • @Coreygunz252
      @Coreygunz252 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@glennpenzone145 because if I wanna play games like splinter cell which I happen to love. The steam deck does not allow Ubisoft sign in and if it does, it always crashes on the steamdeck.

  • @JamieR
    @JamieR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these talks. Thanks for doing this short episodes guys!
    Got the Ally X coming in a few days and I'm quite excited

  • @ArmasReverence
    @ArmasReverence 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vrr makes 45fps feel like 90fps. Can't play cyberpunk at mid without it

  • @WidePhotographs
    @WidePhotographs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I want to play AAA games, I use my pc to get the best graphic experience. Handheld gaming for me is for indie games as you guys mentioned.
    I will sell my OLED Steam deck once Nintendo officially announce the release of their new console.

  • @WarAlex16
    @WarAlex16 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Asus Ally X still uses a 7 inch 16 by 9 LCD. Asus should have used a 8 inch OLED without VRR. That could have been a selling point for next year model. I made the decision to return my Asus ally x. It isn’t a steam deck plug and play. Mouse and keyboard is just needed. Touchscreen doesn’t always work when using the ally x so I can’t bring up the virtual keyboard. I have to restart the device. It’s been a frustrating situation. A gaming laptop makes sense for windows 11. Not a handheld.

    • @Respectmyskill07
      @Respectmyskill07 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody wants to lose vrr

  • @disasterincarnate
    @disasterincarnate 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the ally x's battery is not more efficient than the deck, it just has more raw battery capacity, thats capacity not efficiency, if they had equal watt hours the deck wins because it is more efficient, beating the lcd deck by quite a bit in some cases.

  • @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753
    @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Ally x a pc or toy beasd off gba

  • @abcdoooabcd
    @abcdoooabcd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i bough oled because i hate lcd screens

  • @InterstellarTaco
    @InterstellarTaco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny thing is, the Ally x is far newer than the Steam Deck and is still far less popular.

  • @thegixlad27
    @thegixlad27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A OLED VRR Display doesn’t exist on the market yet

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not at that size. There are OLED TVs and monitors that support VRR through a very specific method

  • @kamalprime9307
    @kamalprime9307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oled screen had better colours and lights than LCD vRR actually ally x should had oled after 800+ price nobody care about most running all AAA games like laptop 💻 with 5000$

  • @TehSmithy
    @TehSmithy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmmm to buy or not to buy 😆

  • @J_Madison
    @J_Madison 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wont buy a handheld gaming computer until I can get VRR and OLED in one unit.

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then you'll be waiting a long time. There are specific limitations with how OLED panels work and getting them to work on a screen that is within the handheld form factor

  • @mr.boombastictm4080
    @mr.boombastictm4080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.

  • @QF-Khersi
    @QF-Khersi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Once you go OLED you can’t go back

    • @victorxmaster634
      @victorxmaster634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can though

    • @andyredfearn3002
      @andyredfearn3002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah couldn't imagine dropping superior OLED tech for a much smaller LCD display (16:19 vs 10), regardless of VRR advantages. 90Hz OLED has superior G2G response over 120Hz LCD smear fest (in comparison). VRR is nice but not worth losing the OLED advantage for. Once Asus figures out VRR + OLED along with Zen5/RNDA3.5 I'll buy. A nice 15% performance per watt boost over the Ally X would allow for a smaller battery or bigger screen leading to more comfortable device to game on. The weight on these portal PC handhelds have to come down to under 500g.

  • @yulongqiu
    @yulongqiu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steam deck cannot run fling trainer, that’s enough reason to get ally x.

  • @tyo101
    @tyo101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes!

  • @zzzzzap
    @zzzzzap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Of course the oled screen is better, there is no doubt. That's the reason why we have oled tv's! Also the steam deck screen is slightly bigger than the screen of the rog ally. VRR is overrated. I would prefer the oled screen cause it looks much better. No wonder also iPhones and good VR Headsets have oled screens.

    • @nathanjuan6042
      @nathanjuan6042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Iphones don't need VRR because its not meant for gaming and mobile games is not on par on PC games. OLED doesn't do anything on gaming VRR is which eliminates stutters when your framerate fluctuates below 60fps. Just like what they said you won't see the difference until you've played with both device side by side.

    • @zzzzzap
      @zzzzzap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nathanjuan6042 That's not true... Oled makes a great picture with a perfect black and much better colours. So the screen quality is important for gaming and so is oled.

    • @Respectmyskill07
      @Respectmyskill07 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zzzzzap 800p on the 7.4 inch screen ruins the image quality much more than oled vs lcd.

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zzzzzap OLED panels don't have better colors than LCD panels. Colors are down to individual displays themselves. LCD panels are just cheaper and have been around for significantly longer as well as coming in at many more price points. There are plenty of LCD panels that have better colors than many OLED displays. The main advantage for OLED is response times and perfect blacks

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't agree. It's about on par. It's a nice panel but the LCD is no slouch. When it comes to most games the colors aren't that different since both panels are very accurate and most games don't have wide color gamuts unless they use HDR. The slightly bigger screen is just in the vertical area otherwise it's not that noticeable. VRR is also much better than you're making it out. It does help a lot when it comes to smoothing out slight frame drops

  • @bogujang9
    @bogujang9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ye, yeap, yes

  • @BVLVI
    @BVLVI 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own the ally and ally X I hate the bezels. IPhone 1 design. Makes it look cheap and old. MY TV OLED MY PHONE OLED, MY ROG ALLY X old looking 2007 display. Honestly my mom wouldn't know it's new because the display looks old enough to drive a car. I hate they make a premium product look old right out of the box.

  • @bobbyghost2594
    @bobbyghost2594 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:25 My brother has the ally x i have the oled deck the sharpness isn’t that noticeable 15:25 the contrast on the Oled and the brightness jump evens the clarity difference out

  • @andrewsanchez25733
    @andrewsanchez25733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have all of them i can say the deck is basically the switch of pc handhelds then the msi claw then the rog then the legion

  • @ciespi
    @ciespi หลายเดือนก่อน

    You two are obviously Steam Deck riders too, and you two are just reaching to try to say the Deck is better than the Ally and is trying to avoid giving Ally X its' points. You also try to talk like the Ally can't do everything the Steam Deck can do. If you're going to say something does something better than explain why it does it better. You guys seem like another group of hot word sellers. People that just want to sell a feature instead selling what can actually work for everyone.

  • @alface7449
    @alface7449 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hacer que las cosas causen dudas de que comprar, es lo que provoca en las personas el comprar tonterias que no necesita

  • @nickc572
    @nickc572 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love how OLEDs look but with my experience with the Switch OLED, I'd rather not have it. I think I might be one of the unlucky ones in the world who have eyes that are super sensitive to PWM and can't look at these things for more than 5 minutes without feeling strain.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've definitely heard of people that struggle with OLED panels, I've not looked into why but it's definitely interesting. Sorry to hear it affects you!

    • @nickc572
      @nickc572 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@128KB yeah I'm not quite sure what's causing it. Normally I'm staring at other screens for long periods of time without feeling any sort of strain but OLEDs really just feel like a nightmare.
      BTW, love the channel! Your reviews ultimately what sold me on the Mobapad M6 HD and I have been absolutely loving it!

    • @Justin-dp7pg
      @Justin-dp7pg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Asus OLED Nebula displays don’t use PWM and have VRR. I think we will see it in the next system. Only issues is that the Nebula displays use more power which has something to do with running VRR on OLED.

  • @zachpowell8653
    @zachpowell8653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It sucks because its actually really hard to play my Oled after playing the Ally X. It now looks blurry to me. And I love my Oled like my child.

  • @mr_omega_007
    @mr_omega_007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    I love you guys BUT everyone talking like the Steam Deck OLED is a Nintendo Switch regards power. I've played AAA games on mine just fine!! All it comes down to is the mainstream push for FOMO just because the Ally X has just come out. So gay. Fuck Windows. £800, no case, no cloth, no 100w charger in the box, no track pads x2, no 4 back buttons, no OLED screen - oh wait. I might get a couple extra FPS and can do some spreadsheets and power point while on the go rather than game? No thanks. LOVE ❤️ YOU though guys

    • @mr_omega_007
      @mr_omega_007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I'm personally waiting for the actual Steam Deck 2 and new chipset whenever that is

    • @gangwu4541
      @gangwu4541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I get your point. But you really don’t need to ‘fuck windows’ to enjoy your steam deck or while waiting for your deck2😊

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Totally get you, appreciate the love, SD OLED is an absolute dream unit really and playing AAA at 30FPS is fine for me on most games. With Frame Generation becoming more of a thing, like in Ghost of Tsushima, SD OLED will be able to keep playing newer titles for sure! I'm hoping Lossless Scaling app gets a Linux version to help with that soon. ALLY X definitely has more power, a good 20FPS more on demanding stuff but as you said is almost double the price of the SD OLED so it is aimed at those wanting the most from it!

    • @d0minant24
      @d0minant24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mr_omega_007I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for a Deck 2. Valve just confirmed they are working on distributing SteamOS to the Ally. I think they prefer to have the competitors sell the hardware while they sell you the software. They were selling the Deck at a loss to get you into their platform.

    • @cameronphelps6740
      @cameronphelps6740 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      lol what are you saying it’s legit better in every way Cept the oled screen. Lol if you’re a console gamer then sure..enjoy that simple shit. I have both and I’d rather take the vrr over the colors poppin and being super limited.. so confused when ppl go up to bat for something that is inferior just cuz you don’t have one lol

  • @ItsMendes
    @ItsMendes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You mfs need to stop comparing a 800 dollars device to a cheaper, budget friendly one, obviously the Ally x is gonna be better, it has a 1080p VRR display, 2280 1TB SSD, 80WH battery, but you know what else it has ? 250 dollars added in price, this comparisons don't make sense.

    • @cameronphelps6740
      @cameronphelps6740 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It makes sense when everybody on planet earth that has a steam deck thinks it’s better.. so yeah it does let’s put that shit back in its place. Lolol steam deck is trash compared. Period. Sit down steam deck. Sit down. Lolololol

    • @cameronphelps6740
      @cameronphelps6740 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I have both by the way so don’t even try me lol

    • @wesbyEric
      @wesbyEric 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Price is somewhat irrelevant here, the comparison is about which is the best one available, not which is the best bang for the buck. I got my rog ally x open box excellent for 670 plus tax anyway, so you can get it for nearly the same as an SD OLED if you look for deals.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This is a screen comparison, between OLED panels & LCD VRR panels. Really, the devices are irrelevant. Did you watch the video?

    • @hk6926
      @hk6926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Steam deck oled is still better . 7 inch screen is too small .

  • @vinnyavalanche
    @vinnyavalanche 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And i have no need for the overpriced oled what so ever

  • @strider775
    @strider775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Steam Deck OLED has no smell.. Good luck trying to sniff it!! lol

    • @128KB
      @128KB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hahaha but that new fan smell!!

  • @HctudYT
    @HctudYT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    msi paws killed them both

  • @benc2798
    @benc2798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much details do people expect to see on a 6" screen?😂

    • @Respectmyskill07
      @Respectmyskill07 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Both screens are 7" what are you talking about

    • @benc2798
      @benc2798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Respectmyskill07 fine, i give you 8". how much detail do you want to see from 8" screen

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ?? The Deck OLED is 7.4in and the Ally is 7in

    • @nathanjuan6042
      @nathanjuan6042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can clearly see the difference just by watching them side by side. Ally is clearly sharper and crisper image if you can't see or notice it then I don't know what eyes you have. And just so you know its 7 inch not 6 inch.

    • @alexh7513
      @alexh7513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow your comment instantly confirms that you have no knowledge in PC handhelds. The rog ally has 7" and not 6.

  • @user-vl4ex5dr6o
    @user-vl4ex5dr6o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hell yeah, love watching your videos on ally x, best content creator out there !!!

  • @Abizzy84
    @Abizzy84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $800 for Asus Rog X? A midrange gaming laptop are from $950 to $1300! The GIGABYTE G6 (2024) is $950 at Best buy and Amazon! The Steamdeck Oled is still the best handheld is the best, the Steamdeck can play more games NOT just indie games!

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No it isn't. Also handhelds are separate form gaming laptops. If you're in the market for a gaming laptop you wouldn't be looking at either the Deck OLED or the Ally X. Gaming laptops are considerably more powerful and less portable while being better suited for more general use. Also the Ally X can play more games than the Deck OLED even if we don't consider the incompatible games on Linux.
      No one ever said the Deck OLED can only play indie games and Steam statistics show that every time they show off what are the most popular games on Steam Deck

    • @alexh7513
      @alexh7513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can get the rog ally z1 extreme for 500 $. I wouldn't recomend the ally x, only if money is not a problem and you want the best ally version right now. So i think the base ally z1 extreme is the best handheld right now. You get up to 50 % more fps for the same price as the 512 gb steamdeck.