Tbh I had steam deck and it was really good in every way bbbuuutttt I sold it and I got legion go and it was big upgrade from screen and the performance and running windows and made me play more games that I can't play on steam deck
Bruh the Go is S tier the only people that hate on it don't like the best Versatility which what you need on the go! I mean best screen 2k at 144 the Z1 chip and the option to be a true tablet the ally x could never and steam deck couldn't keep up with frames alone lmao S tier and hands down the best
It must be an AD they are doing it at Microcenter, the Go is sold at Microcenter, they probably have a bunch of Go stock and are trying to push it that's why Matt is so interested in making the Go an S tier, sneaky
@@I_eatfactsI’m okay with the Go being S tier (it’s all opinion) BUT the ONLY S tier? Austin didn’t even like the controller wobble. Plus, how did the LCD Deck Almost end up over the OLED? Hole list questionable. 😅🤷🏽♂️🤔
It's the best option. Steam decks suck ass for most games, those things overheat in less than an hr. I can play damn near w.e game i want on legion go and those fans will keep up. I haven't used rog ally but all the ppl who bought one get fucked over on warranties. The smaller screen is why I didn't buy that one tbh
There are 2 S tier Devices, Ally X, and Steam Deck OLED. The Legion Go is a solid A tier, Yea, it's got a huge screen, it's flexible, and has joycon like removable controllers. But it doesn't feel solid in the hands where the controllers connect, and it has a portrait native screen that aside from the issues rotated screens cause with certain games in windows it doesn't have VRR and it being QHD means you have to fuss about with resolution on everything to have a smooth gaming experience unless your playing games that aren't very demanding. There's too much faffing about compared to other options for it to beat them out and take an S.
@@RedMageGaming I’d even argue A++/S- tier for the LGO, but without a doubt, leaving the others as A tier after LGO only made S tier via RPS? Was baffling
@@davidcohen9016 I just can't personally give LGO an S, top of the A teir surely, but the issues it has, while minor keep it out of the S tier for me. Ally X solved the issues that kept the og ally from being as good as it could have been, and the OLED deck is just, BETTER steam deck, which is only not S tier because the OLED exists.
@@malikkellythe console from 7 years ago gets out performed by newer consoles? Ya don't say. At least with switch you can just game and go. A lot of times, even with my Steam Deck OLED i have to fiddle with settings to get an optimal performance. Switch is still a good console and the Switch 2 is gonna be even better.
@@Randomninja47You can emulate console games and not fiddle with anything. It's running weak games with no to minimal settings. Your argument is PC has more freedom? If you really wanted, you could turn on system-wide aggressive FSR and not touch any settings too.
I just think that if your going to release games that are only supported on one device that it should be pushed to its full potential. On top of the fact that switch games never drop in price. I can run switch games at 60fps in 4k on my pc why would i spend $300 for it to run worse? Makes zero sense. Nintendo needs to change there company ideas.
@@Rspsand07sure you can, as long as you're emulating them legally. I was more so talking about PC games running on Steam Deck. The average consumer doesn't want to fiddle with that stuff. And FSR doesn't always solve everything. To get some older games running, like Bully, I had to download a widescreen patch and another patch to get a stable fps. You guys don't think from the average consumers point of view. I sold my old Steam Deck to my boss and I've had to help him get some games running smoothly. Sure there's more freedom, if you're willing to put in the work.
Hold up hold up, your phone being a better handheld than the switch? I'll give you the point against joycon drift, but the switch supercharged this whole handheld gaming pc market
Anyone with a supported Iphone or current gen Galaxy S/Z is better off than a Switch. The Switch did not supercharge the handheld PC market, the Steam Deck did.
I mean.....I play all the Nintendo switch games on my Android phone through emulators....and playstation 1, playstation 2, psp, ps Vita , 3ds, Wii GameCube, retro like Gameboy.....and now PS3 and wiiU are on the way and AAA games through PC emulators but it needs power so it's not quite there. But can it do almost anything? Yeah
Yo, NGL, I checked out after Steamdeck OLED didn’t get S tier. How can two people only have 1 S tier ranking. When one of them didn’t even want the Go to be S tier? And then mat bullies Austin out of making the Ally X S tier. I’m not saying Steamdeck OLED is a guaranteed S, though it should be, but how is there only 1 S tier for two people when it wasn’t even uninamous?
I'd pick any day a ROG Ally X with Bazzite/SteamOS (as they are working on directly supporting it) over the Steamdeck Oled... It just performs better, battery life is better and the VRR screen a clear win OLED or not...
@@DJNightKat I mean if your talking about handheld and not the price ally X is clearly better than the deck OLED due to its versatility on being good on any OS. Windows 11 with Amory crate, Bazzite OS (linux), and upcoming Steam OS (linux custom by Valve). The reason deck is not good when booting windows is because its processor is custom made on steam OS that is why booting in windows it performs worse.
The biggest comment that stood out to me was when Matt said the SD LCD was the better recommendation over the SD OLED……sir, you have never been MORE wrong!
Legion Go, in S? hard disagree there. If it was OLED and silent, I'd agree. But with the noise it makes, the low battery life, the IPS screen, the Legion Go is a C at best. I wish I had never bought the Legion Go. Steam Deck OLED is the only S so far, probably Rog Ally X would be an A thanks to the battery and VRR(though I don't own this one, just based on reviews). Also, why is Matt so obnoxious? I wish he did these videos with Ken. They'd be a lot more fun to watch.
steam deck oled is s tier. its a midlife refresh but it aint just a new screen. it's my entry into linux gaming and ive actually been using it as a desktop pc for about a week now. prior, it was my vampire survivors machine, but it really surprised me with being able to handle talos principle 2!
As much as I think these handhelds are neat I just can't see justifying the price of something like the ROG X thing when I can get a laptop that does better for just a few dollars more. Hell, my two year old HP Victus is better IMO. Add a 40 dollar wireless gamepad and viola, better experience all around.
steam deck oled is the true OG and the only worthy of SS. only other handheld to get close is the Ally/AllyX and it's just not better than the deck because of Windows. Ally with Steam OS might be the only thing that can drop the deck oled from the pedestal.
Fr. I had a Legion Go, and returned it within a week. It’s an okay handheld but Windows brings it down so hard. Steamdeck OLED isn’t as powerful, and is lacking a kickstand fr, but battery, screen quality, ease of use, value and… heck it’s still really versatile…..
@@thefilmdirector1 Ally X is clearly better than the deck OLED due to its versatility on being good on any OS. Windows 11 with Amory crate, Bazzite OS (linux), and upcoming Steam OS (linux custom by Valve). The reason deck is not good when booting windows is because its processor is custom made on steam OS that is why booting in windows it performs worse. Ally X has better processor, VRR, 1080p, better battery life, better sound, much portable, and supports 3 OS so you can play any game without having any limitations.
Steam Deck OLED, Switch Lite, and a Playdate…. That’s my combo for playing all of the games. Edit: my first gaming handheld PC was a Ayaneo Air Pro. I got that over the Steam Deck LCD due to my thinking at 5he time that the Deck would be too big for daily driving in a backpack. Turns out the Deck OLED is fine with a kill switch travel case. The biggest criticism that I can place on the Ayaneo Air Pro, which I don’t hear from others is what I find to be a very inconsistent experience in booting it up from sleep. It takes juuuuuust enough of a delay that I wonder, "did I press the power button correctly ¿” and press it again, which makes it go back to sleep just it wakes up when I press it a second time. I fall for this often.
I just don't understand micro center.. only their new customer deals are good. I hate supporting Amazon but they almost always have better prices. Like lemme go check pcpp Ok, just opened the first cpu, the 7800x3d, it's out of stock on amazon and cheaper on MC (pick up only). So i guess I'll eat my words
In Miami, Legion go with 2tb last week at Micro center was only 650 ... The Ally X with 1TB is 799. The performance is so close with the Ally only having a better battery and more RAM , the Legion go with the bigger screen and 150 dollars cheaper the legion go was my pick. If the Ally X was the same price it would have been a harder decision.
I’m the son of a carpenter and grew up in a farming community. We have always had Cargart. When I became an EMat, bibs were my cold weather gear. I’ve got 20 year old jackets still kicking around. Can’t kill them. Never cared if they were trendy. They last and are warm. And a damn good product all around.
I fairly disagree with your rating up the Legipn Go above the Rog Ally X,yes it is pricy but the huge battery,better Ram and the compact size gives to the X the definition of portability unlike the Legion Go.
What about onexplayer 1 and 2 pro. I have one and i run two hdmi monitors including the build in, total 3 monitors. I have that come with win 11 home instead of pro
The PS Portal is amazing for what it is. It’s not even that laggy if you have your console wired in. The controls are in a tier of their own and the screen is great at that price point considering it comes with a built in controller. It needed WiFi 7, though.
Just got a legion go was considering mini pcs with radeon 880m for 500 or a handheld. I got the legion because like the switch taking it apart is really helpful and comfortable for my hands. And i like the option of handheld,tablet, and desktop. But the thing that sold me was matts enthusiasm for it. So thanks for helping me decide im hoping no issues like when i got and returned z1 extreme rog ally due to blue screen issues.
I absolutely LOVE my Legion Go, especially after I found the 2280 SSD Adapter board that let me put a 4TB SSD in it. My Only real complaint is the Dpad, but I put a PSVita Dpad cover on it and that improved it quite a bit
Weird rank, ayaneo got every model separate but anbernic it's al together? And a phone is better than dedicated devices for emulation like the anbernic and retroids Wich you didn't even mention, I understand if you go only for top tier handhelds but in the quality/price this little emulation machines are godlike
asus ally or msi claw? Is it any good with drawing pictures? Since it has a touch screen. Rather it then a tablet. Steam deck why just steam os. analogue pocket is pretty good. the analogue os unlocks the cores. now can play neogeo at home legit.
I 100% agree with this tier list due to me having the Legion Go , Ally X and the Deck Oled which are the bestest out there and I can confirm that I only use the Legion Go
I choose to believe every tier list is a troll to some extent. It helps me sleep at night. That and the picture of Austin's house burning down, that I keep beside my bed.
honestly after having my rog ally die after a few months, having asus charge me even more to fix it. then not having a single problem with a legion go it surprised me.
Which one of these handhelds would you guys recommend the most from all the ones that you’re talking about one that I can set up and just play my games without really changing the aspect ratio or doing much tinkering to the game but still play most every game on it And which onewould you recommend and why? And also, I would maybe like to be able to watch some movies and maybe do some other stuff but mostly gaming
I wish the gaming handheld devices uses the 2280 nvme ssd instead of the the 2230 nvme ssd. The highest capacity I found on amazon for the 2230 nvme ssd is onlb which is too small since newer games take up more storage space. The highest capacity for the 2280 nvme ssd is 4tb which is double the capacity of the 2230 nvme ssd. The 2280 nvme ssd is like the size of a single stick of gum and the size of the 2230 nvme ssd is like the size of a single amd ryzen cpu. There is no 4tb and 8tb capacity options for the 2230 nvme ssd but there are 4tb and 8tb 2280 nvme ssds. The 2280 nvme ssds are very common since they are used in laptops and gaming pc's as well being used for external ssd enclosures and even in nas home media servers. If there was an option to use 2280 nvme ssd inside of an android phone. I would choose to have the 4tb or 8tb options for the 2280 nvme ssd and use the high capacity for my entire 4k, blu ray and dvd discs that I rip in full uncompressed iso video format since the iso video format from the discs are an exact duplicate bit perfect copy of the discs including all menus, languages, special features, all the surround sound formats etc. and my library of hi res audio like dsd audio files and 24 bit 96khz flac lossless audio files as well games, roms and emulators.
Steam deck is getting old now but I feel they still offer a cost and battery life option for pc games. Been a few months and some new more capable better battery options for pc hand helds are coming out and I suspect theres some shuffling on this board.
I love this is. lol I literally don’t buy or interact with most of the stuff in this video… im a OG gameboy pocket girlie or switch oled but man I just love watching y’all’s crazy funny chemistry lol ❤
The Legion Go is B Tier at best, the huge screen is nice until you play games on it and you experience how awful it feels to not have vrr or the option to set the hz like the Allys or Steam Decks.
Huh? You can cap the frame rate on the LeGo just like you can on the Deck. It doesn’t have VRR, true. Only the Allies and the Claw do (some “exotics” might as well but I wouldn’t risk buying them).
Ally X and Deck OLED should be S tier. The whole point of a gaming handheld is handheld gaming and the LeGo is just too heavy to be comfortably handheld. Plus it's got a while kit that needs to be brought along.
The analogue pocket can run roms. It's not even some hacky or modded feature, it's officially supported even if the cores aren't developed by analogue. That said there will be a MiSter based handheld soon. So, unless the design is awful, the analogue pocket will be a completely irrelevant device within it's niche. Unless you are obsessed with sticking cartridges in things of course.
IMO the Legion Go, the Deck OLED and the Ally X are fairly evenly matched. I wouldn’t risk crowning any of them. Each of them has some unique advantages while being far from perfect. If you want performance, compatibility, a trackpad, Hall effect sticks and a huge screen, go Lenovo. Just be aware of subpar ergonomics, audio, fairly noisy cooling, native portrait screen and middling battery life. If your priorities are ease of use, ergonomics, superb sleep/resume, decent cooling, trackpads, great support and image contrast/HDR/pixel response, go Valve. Keep in mind the limited compatibility, screen resolution and performance, however. If you value battery life, huge RAM/good performance, portability, VRR, quiet cooling or good speakers, get the ASUS. I would just be careful with the Ally, seeing how many users are already reporting QC issues, mainly with controls. Also, the screen is on the smaller side, plus there are no trackpads. BTW, I consider the LeGo’s tabletop/FPS mode a pure gimmick but YMMV. Oh, one more thing - I don’t think the LeGo deserves the sole S spot, it just has too many little flaws. I also think the Switch should be ranked higher - it’s a fun handheld with an awesome game catalog, even if its performance sucks and so does joycon drift… Oh, and the Kun is missing. One of the best models, in fact (even though I wouldn’t buy it).
For me, I say the best handheld gaming device is the one you already have. For most people, that would be an iPhone or Galaxy S phone. My best gaming device is a Steam Deck. I almost regret getting my 64GB LCD Steam Deck. I got my Steam Deck in September of 2022. I probably should have waited for the ROG Ally or Legion Go, but I didn't want to wait 9+ months or 13+ months when I could get a Steam Deck in as little as 3 weeks.
The disrespect on ally for being on the same list as the OG deck. Ally should be above the OG deck its not even close ally supports 3 OS and performs well on those 3 Windows 11 with Amory crate, Bazzite OS (linux), and upcoming Steam OS (linux custom by Valve). The reason deck is not good when booting windows is because its processor is custom made on steam OS that is why booting in windows it performs worse. Ally has better processor, VRR, 1080p, better sound, much portable, and supports 3 OS so you can play any game without having any limitations.
@@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords I've had mine for 7 months never had an issue with it. Models that has serial number R8 and R9 are all good only the earlier models has issue with the SD card.
@@nathanjuan6042 nah I just meant there's still old models being shoveled around in the used market vs Steam Deck never really any tech issues but I don't hate the ROG, as long as person has 1 of them its a win
I bought Ally for $352 open box good. I love it. I also have a Steam, and I love the simplicity. But I prefer the size of the Ally and the flexibility.
Steam Deck even without the OLED I think should be S tier. It’s definitely the best bang for the buck. I’ve ran a deck now for a year, I haven’t been able to try any others I’m not rich 😂. But I’ve had zero complaints it’s ran any game I’ve thrown at it. The upgradability is really good and I’ve heard some reasonably good things about the customer service. So for the fact you can get one for like $300, and play honestly almost any game in your steam library it’s a hell of steal.
I've not finished watching the video yet, but thought it was funny legion go got s tier when I'm watching this on a legion go (completely agree with the battery life, it's well enough but could be better for the size of the device but I get no flex when I'm playing on it, so how hard is Austin gripping it😅)
13:20 steam deck OLED battery life is nearly 50% better and performance is about 3-10% better according to digital foundry. Display is also hdr so A tier is justified ✅
I would almost agree with Matt on the Legion’s S tier.. if it wasn’t for support. Drivers are drastically outdated and improvements found in recent AMD graphics drivers are nowhere to be found. Where as the Ally, and Ally X, releases a new one at least once every 2 months. And there are noticeable differences in some games with a more recent drivers on an APU. The SSD 2242 form factor is also a huge downside But the screen.. and kickstand for other activities is amazing A tier for Legion. S tier for Ally X
I have all the big hitters of the handhelds (O.G. rog ally z1 extreme , Legion go, and steam deck, sold and got the oled). The oled for me is the best system. I love the size of the legion go, but it isn't as comfortable as the steam deck. The battery life on the oled is a lot better than the legion go, and the O.G. steam deck. Steam deck for the win, better controllers, better feel, better vent smell.
I really hate Austin's take on PS portal. "if I want to spend $200 I'll buy the switch lite" yeah because I also want to play PS5 games on a f-ing switch. Really the portal shouldn't be on the list, because It is not a gaming handheld like the others. It is a PS5 accessory. Crazy how people can't understand the difference. Same form factor does not mean same function.
Rog ally x should be at least 2 levels above legion go!! That 80WH battery alone is enough reason to put it up there in S tier.. Yes Legion go gives u that large display but almost every AAA game wont run good in 1600p so whats the point?
Putting the Legion Go ABOVE the Steam Deck OLED and ROG Ally X? Is this your application to work at IGN? WTF?
Rog Ally X is far more portable and better than legion
He only likes it because he likes heft and mouse mode... literally all it is lol not S worthy its literally priced only 100 less
Tbh I had steam deck and it was really good in every way bbbuuutttt I sold it and I got legion go and it was big upgrade from screen and the performance and running windows and made me play more games that I can't play on steam deck
@@BANDIRYA you had the Oled? I had the LCD and sold it cause I didn’t like it.
Bruh the Go is S tier the only people that hate on it don't like the best Versatility which what you need on the go! I mean best screen 2k at 144 the Z1 chip and the option to be a true tablet the ally x could never and steam deck couldn't keep up with frames alone lmao S tier and hands down the best
Legion Go being the only S tier is wild
Was this all an Ad? 😅
It must be an AD they are doing it at Microcenter, the Go is sold at Microcenter, they probably have a bunch of Go stock and are trying to push it that's why Matt is so interested in making the Go an S tier, sneaky
@@I_eatfactsI’m okay with the Go being S tier (it’s all opinion) BUT the ONLY S tier?
Austin didn’t even like the controller wobble.
Plus, how did the LCD Deck Almost end up over the OLED?
Hole list questionable. 😅🤷🏽♂️🤔
@@BarelyAverageDude Same, I don't have anything against the Go being S tier if that's their take, but as you say the whole list is a weird take.
@@I_eatfacts lmao bet you never even owned a legion Go 😂😂 what do you own just curious?? If u say the underpowered SD 💀🤡 u goofy
It's the best option. Steam decks suck ass for most games, those things overheat in less than an hr. I can play damn near w.e game i want on legion go and those fans will keep up. I haven't used rog ally but all the ppl who bought one get fucked over on warranties. The smaller screen is why I didn't buy that one tbh
There are 2 S tier Devices, Ally X, and Steam Deck OLED. The Legion Go is a solid A tier, Yea, it's got a huge screen, it's flexible, and has joycon like removable controllers. But it doesn't feel solid in the hands where the controllers connect, and it has a portrait native screen that aside from the issues rotated screens cause with certain games in windows it doesn't have VRR and it being QHD means you have to fuss about with resolution on everything to have a smooth gaming experience unless your playing games that aren't very demanding. There's too much faffing about compared to other options for it to beat them out and take an S.
@@RedMageGaming I’d even argue A++/S- tier for the LGO, but without a doubt, leaving the others as A tier after LGO only made S tier via RPS? Was baffling
@@davidcohen9016 I just can't personally give LGO an S, top of the A teir surely, but the issues it has, while minor keep it out of the S tier for me. Ally X solved the issues that kept the og ally from being as good as it could have been, and the OLED deck is just, BETTER steam deck, which is only not S tier because the OLED exists.
Just run FSR or Lossless scaling. It looks better than running at 800p on steam deck
i think the ambernic should also be S, at about $50, it's amazing value for an emulation device
Also the Legion Go has the absolute worst sounding speakers ever. The audio quality of the LeGo is 2 /10 on its best day.
Some of the worst rankings I've ever seen holy shit
Isn’t the point of this channel to be full of “controversial” opinions on purpose? I’m pretty sure I heard they saying that at some point.
@@valen961yes but this is a pathetic ranking .
The steam deck peasant mad 😂
stay back steam deck lovers, Windows is always at the top LUL
@@LeRouxMashinrou 🤮
The Lenovo is S tier but the SD Oled and Ally X aren't? HAVE Y'ALL LOST YOUR MINDS??
I’d also place the SD OLED in A. But maybe put the Ally X in S if the Legion Go is up there.
My top two are Legion Go and SD OLED
@@JM-pm1yb legion go is S teir definitely, but I do agree the Ally X is also S teir. Steam deck should be ranked below those two.
Matt's Crazy. The Steam Deck OLED is so much better than the LCD for me.
That and his Switch hate is unacceptable.
Switch is trash ngl. Any of those other handheld can rel switch games in better fps and resolution than the switch
@@malikkellythe console from 7 years ago gets out performed by newer consoles? Ya don't say.
At least with switch you can just game and go.
A lot of times, even with my Steam Deck OLED i have to fiddle with settings to get an optimal performance.
Switch is still a good console and the Switch 2 is gonna be even better.
@@Randomninja47You can emulate console games and not fiddle with anything. It's running weak games with no to minimal settings. Your argument is PC has more freedom?
If you really wanted, you could turn on system-wide aggressive FSR and not touch any settings too.
I just think that if your going to release games that are only supported on one device that it should be pushed to its full potential. On top of the fact that switch games never drop in price. I can run switch games at 60fps in 4k on my pc why would i spend $300 for it to run worse? Makes zero sense. Nintendo needs to change there company ideas.
@@Rspsand07sure you can, as long as you're emulating them legally.
I was more so talking about PC games running on Steam Deck. The average consumer doesn't want to fiddle with that stuff.
And FSR doesn't always solve everything. To get some older games running, like Bully, I had to download a widescreen patch and another patch to get a stable fps.
You guys don't think from the average consumers point of view. I sold my old Steam Deck to my boss and I've had to help him get some games running smoothly.
Sure there's more freedom, if you're willing to put in the work.
This video needs to be re written because holy shit
They got their engagement, no need for a rewrite
Hold up hold up, your phone being a better handheld than the switch? I'll give you the point against joycon drift, but the switch supercharged this whole handheld gaming pc market
Anyone with a supported Iphone or current gen Galaxy S/Z is better off than a Switch. The Switch did not supercharge the handheld PC market, the Steam Deck did.
I mean.....I play all the Nintendo switch games on my Android phone through emulators....and playstation 1, playstation 2, psp, ps Vita , 3ds, Wii GameCube, retro like Gameboy.....and now PS3 and wiiU are on the way and AAA games through PC emulators but it needs power so it's not quite there. But can it do almost anything? Yeah
Yo, NGL, I checked out after Steamdeck OLED didn’t get S tier. How can two people only have 1 S tier ranking. When one of them didn’t even want the Go to be S tier? And then mat bullies Austin out of making the Ally X S tier. I’m not saying Steamdeck OLED is a guaranteed S, though it should be, but how is there only 1 S tier for two people when it wasn’t even uninamous?
I'd pick any day a ROG Ally X with Bazzite/SteamOS (as they are working on directly supporting it) over the Steamdeck Oled... It just performs better, battery life is better and the VRR screen a clear win OLED or not...
This list is a joke
@@histerical90 I don’t disagree. But the two devices are $250 apart. I don’t even think they compete with each other.
@@DJNightKat I mean if your talking about handheld and not the price ally X is clearly better than the deck OLED due to its versatility on being good on any OS. Windows 11 with Amory crate, Bazzite OS (linux), and upcoming Steam OS (linux custom by Valve). The reason deck is not good when booting windows is because its processor is custom made on steam OS that is why booting in windows it performs worse.
Oh wow.. where is the Odin2?🤨
The biggest comment that stood out to me was when Matt said the SD LCD was the better recommendation over the SD OLED……sir, you have never been MORE wrong!
The Legion Go being S-Tier already invalidates this list lol
Legion Go, in S? hard disagree there. If it was OLED and silent, I'd agree. But with the noise it makes, the low battery life, the IPS screen, the Legion Go is a C at best. I wish I had never bought the Legion Go.
Steam Deck OLED is the only S so far, probably Rog Ally X would be an A thanks to the battery and VRR(though I don't own this one, just based on reviews).
Also, why is Matt so obnoxious? I wish he did these videos with Ken. They'd be a lot more fun to watch.
steam deck oled is s tier. its a midlife refresh but it aint just a new screen. it's my entry into linux gaming and ive actually been using it as a desktop pc for about a week now. prior, it was my vampire survivors machine, but it really surprised me with being able to handle talos principle 2!
As much as I think these handhelds are neat I just can't see justifying the price of something like the ROG X thing when I can get a laptop that does better for just a few dollars more. Hell, my two year old HP Victus is better IMO. Add a 40 dollar wireless gamepad and viola, better experience all around.
steam deck oled is the true OG and the only worthy of SS. only other handheld to get close is the Ally/AllyX and it's just not better than the deck because of Windows. Ally with Steam OS might be the only thing that can drop the deck oled from the pedestal.
Steam deck deserved A to S tier minimum for the combination battery life, power, versatility, OS, and price.
Fr. I had a Legion Go, and returned it within a week. It’s an okay handheld but Windows brings it down so hard. Steamdeck OLED isn’t as powerful, and is lacking a kickstand fr, but battery, screen quality, ease of use, value and… heck it’s still really versatile…..
Steamdeck is the all around GOAT, its hands down the best device for everyone. The rest start to get into gimmick or niche territory.
@@thefilmdirector1 Ally X is clearly better than the deck OLED due to its versatility on being good on any OS. Windows 11 with Amory crate, Bazzite OS (linux), and upcoming Steam OS (linux custom by Valve). The reason deck is not good when booting windows is because its processor is custom made on steam OS that is why booting in windows it performs worse. Ally X has better processor, VRR, 1080p, better battery life, better sound, much portable, and supports 3 OS so you can play any game without having any limitations.
Steam Deck OLED, Switch Lite, and a Playdate…. That’s my combo for playing all of the games.
Edit: my first gaming handheld PC was a Ayaneo Air Pro. I got that over the Steam Deck LCD due to my thinking at 5he time that the Deck would be too big for daily driving in a backpack. Turns out the Deck OLED is fine with a kill switch travel case.
The biggest criticism that I can place on the Ayaneo Air Pro, which I don’t hear from others is what I find to be a very inconsistent experience in booting it up from sleep.
It takes juuuuuust enough of a delay that I wonder, "did I press the power button correctly ¿” and press it again, which makes it go back to sleep just it wakes up when I press it a second time. I fall for this often.
Got my Steam Deck Oled and I'm happy.
I’m still rolling with my OG Z1 Extreme Ally. I want the X but I’m gonna hold off for the official Next Gen version
I just don't understand micro center.. only their new customer deals are good. I hate supporting Amazon but they almost always have better prices. Like lemme go check pcpp
Ok, just opened the first cpu, the 7800x3d, it's out of stock on amazon and cheaper on MC (pick up only). So i guess I'll eat my words
My MicroCenter will price match Amazon. But I've heard your mileage may vary
In Miami, Legion go with 2tb last week at Micro center was only 650 ... The Ally X with 1TB is 799. The performance is so close with the Ally only having a better battery and more RAM , the Legion go with the bigger screen and 150 dollars cheaper the legion go was my pick. If the Ally X was the same price it would have been a harder decision.
I’m the son of a carpenter and grew up in a farming community. We have always had Cargart. When I became an EMat, bibs were my cold weather gear. I’ve got 20 year old jackets still kicking around. Can’t kill them. Never cared if they were trendy. They last and are warm. And a damn good product all around.
Switch should be S-tier for inventing the entire category, and Steam Deck S-tier for perfecting it.
I have a rog ally z1 extreme, i want a legion go to try to incorporate it into a camera rig
Msi Claw all day i freaking love it hall effect joysticks and its the best feeling in the hand. Intel.
Yes Sir! Was lookin for fam in comments, Claw has better wifi bt ect ect ect. just not ram, wait till their mid life refresh!
Does anyone know the game that is showcased at 13:27
I love ThisIs they are never incorrect!
I fairly disagree with your rating up the Legipn Go above the Rog Ally X,yes it is pricy but the huge battery,better Ram and the compact size gives to the X the definition of portability unlike the Legion Go.
What about onexplayer 1 and 2 pro. I have one and i run two hdmi monitors including the build in, total 3 monitors. I have that come with win 11 home instead of pro
16:11 they're literally launching the second edition of that in a month I'm talking about the MSI cloth😅
I know Matt's been back for a min now but.. it is good to know he's actually back in the video now..
The PS Portal is amazing for what it is. It’s not even that laggy if you have your console wired in. The controls are in a tier of their own and the screen is great at that price point considering it comes with a built in controller. It needed WiFi 7, though.
Just got a legion go was considering mini pcs with radeon 880m for 500 or a handheld. I got the legion because like the switch taking it apart is really helpful and comfortable for my hands. And i like the option of handheld,tablet, and desktop. But the thing that sold me was matts enthusiasm for it. So thanks for helping me decide im hoping no issues like when i got and returned z1 extreme rog ally due to blue screen issues.
Making a video in the middle of a Micro enter with people casually shopping in the background lol
I absolutely LOVE my Legion Go, especially after I found the 2280 SSD Adapter board that let me put a 4TB SSD in it. My Only real complaint is the Dpad, but I put a PSVita Dpad cover on it and that improved it quite a bit
And The retroid pockets ?
The cloud being in f is an atrocity
Weird rank, ayaneo got every model separate but anbernic it's al together? And a phone is better than dedicated devices for emulation like the anbernic and retroids Wich you didn't even mention, I understand if you go only for top tier handhelds but in the quality/price this little emulation machines are godlike
Yay Matt I finally agree on a tech thing with you, the Legion Go is seriously underrated, it's so versatile!
asus ally or msi claw?
Is it any good with drawing pictures? Since it has a touch screen. Rather it then a tablet.
Steam deck why just steam os.
analogue pocket is pretty good. the analogue os unlocks the cores. now can play neogeo at home legit.
phones should be A tier in my book👍
I 100% agree with this tier list due to me having the Legion Go , Ally X and the Deck Oled which are the bestest out there and I can confirm that I only use the Legion Go
I choose to believe every tier list is a troll to some extent. It helps me sleep at night. That and the picture of Austin's house burning down, that I keep beside my bed.
Upgrading from the OG ROG Ally to Legion Go is the best decision I’ve ever made
honestly after having my rog ally die after a few months, having asus charge me even more to fix it. then not having a single problem with a legion go it surprised me.
Loving the teir list, Legion go baby 🔥🔥🔥🔥 anyone who has an issue with that has never owned a GO
i want one in Orlando
Just ignored SS. Lmao
Which one of these handhelds would you guys recommend the most from all the ones that you’re talking about one that I can set up and just play my games without really changing the aspect ratio or doing much tinkering to the game but still play most every game on it And which onewould you recommend and why? And also, I would maybe like to be able to watch some movies and maybe do some other stuff but mostly gaming
I literally bought a legion go second hand for £500 and wasnt too sure if i did the right choice but this made me feel better.
I wish the gaming handheld devices uses the 2280 nvme ssd instead of the the 2230 nvme ssd. The highest capacity I found on amazon for the 2230 nvme ssd is onlb which is too small since newer games take up more storage space. The highest capacity for the 2280 nvme ssd is 4tb which is double the capacity of the 2230 nvme ssd. The 2280 nvme ssd is like the size of a single stick of gum and the size of the 2230 nvme ssd is like the size of a single amd ryzen cpu. There is no 4tb and 8tb capacity options for the 2230 nvme ssd but there are 4tb and 8tb 2280 nvme ssds. The 2280 nvme ssds are very common since they are used in laptops and gaming pc's as well being used for external ssd enclosures and even in nas home media servers. If there was an option to use 2280 nvme ssd inside of an android phone. I would choose to have the 4tb or 8tb options for the 2280 nvme ssd and use the high capacity for my entire 4k, blu ray and dvd discs that I rip in full uncompressed iso video format since the iso video format from the discs are an exact duplicate bit perfect copy of the discs including all menus, languages, special features, all the surround sound formats etc. and my library of hi res audio like dsd audio files and 24 bit 96khz flac lossless audio files as well games, roms and emulators.
Steam deck is getting old now but I feel they still offer a cost and battery life option for pc games. Been a few months and some new more capable better battery options for pc hand helds are coming out and I suspect theres some shuffling on this board.
I love this is. lol I literally don’t buy or interact with most of the stuff in this video… im a OG gameboy pocket girlie or switch oled but man I just love watching y’all’s crazy funny chemistry lol ❤
The Legion Go is B Tier at best, the huge screen is nice until you play games on it and you experience how awful it feels to not have vrr or the option to set the hz like the Allys or Steam Decks.
Huh? You can cap the frame rate on the LeGo just like you can on the Deck. It doesn’t have VRR, true. Only the Allies and the Claw do (some “exotics” might as well but I wouldn’t risk buying them).
The "ayaneo next" sticker was actually the ROG Ally z1 & Z1E models lol
Ally X and Deck OLED should be S tier. The whole point of a gaming handheld is handheld gaming and the LeGo is just too heavy to be comfortably handheld. Plus it's got a while kit that needs to be brought along.
I absolutely love the Portal. I have been using remote play since its conception on the psp to connect to the ps3.
This video is wild. Only two you should consider is 1. Steam deck 2. Ally X
I recently noticed they are selling ayaneo now in best buy
The analogue pocket can run roms. It's not even some hacky or modded feature, it's officially supported even if the cores aren't developed by analogue. That said there will be a MiSter based handheld soon. So, unless the design is awful, the analogue pocket will be a completely irrelevant device within it's niche. Unless you are obsessed with sticking cartridges in things of course.
Just saw you at the micro center in Miami so cooooooool 😊
IMO the Legion Go, the Deck OLED and the Ally X are fairly evenly matched. I wouldn’t risk crowning any of them. Each of them has some unique advantages while being far from perfect. If you want performance, compatibility, a trackpad, Hall effect sticks and a huge screen, go Lenovo. Just be aware of subpar ergonomics, audio, fairly noisy cooling, native portrait screen and middling battery life. If your priorities are ease of use, ergonomics, superb sleep/resume, decent cooling, trackpads, great support and image contrast/HDR/pixel response, go Valve. Keep in mind the limited compatibility, screen resolution and performance, however. If you value battery life, huge RAM/good performance, portability, VRR, quiet cooling or good speakers, get the ASUS. I would just be careful with the Ally, seeing how many users are already reporting QC issues, mainly with controls. Also, the screen is on the smaller side, plus there are no trackpads. BTW, I consider the LeGo’s tabletop/FPS mode a pure gimmick but YMMV. Oh, one more thing - I don’t think the LeGo deserves the sole S spot, it just has too many little flaws. I also think the Switch should be ranked higher - it’s a fun handheld with an awesome game catalog, even if its performance sucks and so does joycon drift… Oh, and the Kun is missing. One of the best models, in fact (even though I wouldn’t buy it).
Hi ur rare candy app isn’t working I enter in my number an flag and the six digit code then I get stuck it won’t continue from there😢
Great break down
1:09 Except it can also play Game Gear, Neo Geo Pocket, and Lynx games. It's almost as if they've never used an Analogue Pocket. Hmm...
You're phone is hands down the best way to play Dragon Quest V in the west, and for that, it deserved an A
I'm watching on my rg556 Amoled screen for under 200$
556 enjoyers unite
For me, I say the best handheld gaming device is the one you already have. For most people, that would be an iPhone or Galaxy S phone. My best gaming device is a Steam Deck. I almost regret getting my 64GB LCD Steam Deck. I got my Steam Deck in September of 2022. I probably should have waited for the ROG Ally or Legion Go, but I didn't want to wait 9+ months or 13+ months when I could get a Steam Deck in as little as 3 weeks.
I need a Microcenter in my town
Austin really doesnt like GPD Win Mini and Max 2. Imagine getting much ayaneo but none of gpd products 😂
The Digimon T shirt 😍
I agree with Matt on the Legion Go. I love mine. However, since the ally x came out, I think they are tied for S tier.
My favourite handheld is the NES Zapper.
seriously put orginal steamdeck at same rating ally, come on guys
But its really not
The disrespect on ally for being on the same list as the OG deck. Ally should be above the OG deck its not even close ally supports 3 OS and performs well on those 3 Windows 11 with Amory crate, Bazzite OS (linux), and upcoming Steam OS (linux custom by Valve). The reason deck is not good when booting windows is because its processor is custom made on steam OS that is why booting in windows it performs worse. Ally has better processor, VRR, 1080p, better sound, much portable, and supports 3 OS so you can play any game without having any limitations.
@@nathanjuan6042 the thing still burns SD cards lol
@@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords I've had mine for 7 months never had an issue with it. Models that has serial number R8 and R9 are all good only the earlier models has issue with the SD card.
@@nathanjuan6042 nah I just meant there's still old models being shoveled around in the used market vs Steam Deck never really any tech issues but I don't hate the ROG, as long as person has 1 of them its a win
I bought Ally for $352 open box good. I love it. I also have a Steam, and I love the simplicity. But I prefer the size of the Ally and the flexibility.
Steam Deck even without the OLED I think should be S tier. It’s definitely the best bang for the buck. I’ve ran a deck now for a year, I haven’t been able to try any others I’m not rich 😂. But I’ve had zero complaints it’s ran any game I’ve thrown at it. The upgradability is really good and I’ve heard some reasonably good things about the customer service. So for the fact you can get one for like $300, and play honestly almost any game in your steam library it’s a hell of steal.
Ayaneo missed the ball on making a newer version of a sidekick with the slide
heard all i need to. MSI Claw it is!
I’m using a Steam Deck OLED and love it. I would have put that a S tier.
RGB30! Really cool retro handheld with a great selection of... software.
I use the heck out of the ps portal. Great for dad mode when everyone is sleeping .
There needs to be a micro center come to Jacksonville, Florida
I've not finished watching the video yet, but thought it was funny legion go got s tier when I'm watching this on a legion go (completely agree with the battery life, it's well enough but could be better for the size of the device but I get no flex when I'm playing on it, so how hard is Austin gripping it😅)
13:20 steam deck OLED battery life is nearly 50% better and performance is about 3-10% better according to digital foundry. Display is also hdr so A tier is justified ✅
Ally X with Bazzite I think jumps up to S tier. It'll never ship with it stock though due to the Microsoft corporate partnership.
Y'all must've been high making this tier list 😂
Matt is nuts. Steam Derck OLED is S-Tier. Ally X should be right next to it. Legion Go is weak sauce and would be lucky to land in A-Tier.
I would almost agree with Matt on the Legion’s S tier.. if it wasn’t for support. Drivers are drastically outdated and improvements found in recent AMD graphics drivers are nowhere to be found. Where as the Ally, and Ally X, releases a new one at least once every 2 months. And there are noticeable differences in some games with a more recent drivers on an APU.
The SSD 2242 form factor is also a huge downside
But the screen.. and kickstand for other activities is amazing
A tier for Legion. S tier for Ally X
I have all the big hitters of the handhelds (O.G. rog ally z1 extreme , Legion go, and steam deck, sold and got the oled). The oled for me is the best system. I love the size of the legion go, but it isn't as comfortable as the steam deck. The battery life on the oled is a lot better than the legion go, and the O.G. steam deck. Steam deck for the win, better controllers, better feel, better vent smell.
if legion go is S tier the X is as well.although to me nothing belongs in S tier yet. no device has checked off every box yet.
12:36 don’t threaten me with a good time, Matt.
I really hate Austin's take on PS portal. "if I want to spend $200 I'll buy the switch lite" yeah because I also want to play PS5 games on a f-ing switch. Really the portal shouldn't be on the list, because It is not a gaming handheld like the others. It is a PS5 accessory. Crazy how people can't understand the difference. Same form factor does not mean same function.
THANK YOUUUU!
Yes I was thinking the same!
Rog ally x should be at least 2 levels above legion go!! That 80WH battery alone is enough reason to put it up there in S tier.. Yes Legion go gives u that large display but almost every AAA game wont run good in 1600p so whats the point?
Missing out the GPD Win 4 😢. Much better than the Slide.
The rog ally ofc. Commenting even before watching the video
100% confirm
Ally X and Legion Go with bazzite OS is S tier
2:42 Hey I was a serious PUBG Mobile gamer for a few years. Those will sell great. But I never used those controls. For me all touchscreen.
The PSP is the og and the best of all in my opinion