Same! When I do game at home, it’s on a TV with a controller, not in an office next to a file cabinet. User space is all part of the experience, after all!
you can do open box at best buy for over $100 less when they become available and you can finance for 18 months with no interest to make less of an immediate financial impact. but dont do it if you are poor/not decent financially.
Ive actually came from Steam Deck and Oled when released to AllyX. I know what first Ally was, but battery was a big NO for me. Now I cant look back to Steam Deck, I do miss Oled screen, but ohh boy, everything works so much better, from installing whatever I want, not steam only or fidling about with linux to get it working (different game lunchers), to using and installing mods and this necessary bump to performance helps a ton to play with tech like afmf2 or fsr3 frame generation! I'm pushing Shadow of Erdtree to 70 - 80 fps, 1080p, high details with fsr3 frame gen mod on Ally X! Hardly any lag or glitches as much. Incredible!
I'm coming from a Lenovo legion go to the Asus ally x (not here yet), I know it's not a huge jump in performance but the extra RAM should smooth out most games I've had issues with on the Legion go, can't wait
I went with the Steam Deck. It's $100 cheaper for the 1 tb model and the custom Steam OS is more controller friendly when setting things up and navigating menus.
@TNTahirI mean it feels like you’re constantly “tinkering around” when using windows on a handheld. Just not anywhere even close to as fleshed out as windows on a pc.
@@patrickkarlmitton3556you can still get those games to work, it just takes some tinkering. My question is who’s buying a steam deck to play specifically competitive games on it? My guess would be not very many people
I just got my Steam Deck OLED this month and have zero regrets. The Deck has been able to easily handle everything I've thrown at it! The Ally is more expensive, I'd have to install Bazzite (really do not ever want to use Windows again) and the lack of trackpads and OLED are deal breakers for me personally.
I still don't understand how my series X cannot play series X/S optimized games on an external ssd, but I can play cyberpunk 2077 and games like that on a 1tb micro SD card in my steam deck oled
One of my favorite things about the Steam Deck OLED is never having to touch the screen lol. One my windows handheld I have to constantly clean fingerprints off of the screen
They already changed their warranty policies and gave an extended warranties for the original ally. At this point the only ones complaining about their customer support are Steamdeck users who never had an ally to begin with.
@@StopJerkingOff you are missing the point, the Asus Company itself is the problem with their customer support, not only the ally, it affects all their products. i own a lot of Asus products and i had my own share of problem in their CS
@@Tneo7 for me personally the ally X is the definitely the better handheld. If you want ease of use and use it to either emulate, play steam games or maybe stream and that’s it id go with the steam deck. The ally X can do way more like play game pass natively which to me is huge, play anti cheat games like Fortnite. Showing my brother who loves Fortnite that you could play on a handheld and so well blew his mind. I also bought a bunch of accessories and plan to run Bazzite which gives the steam experience as well as pc in dual boot , a dock to plug in a keyboard and mouse since I don’t have a pc yet and this becomes a portable one when I want it to. It’s more powerful so if you like triple a games like cod, gears of war, halo, baldurs gate this blows the steam deck out the water. There’s definitely things I’ll miss from the deck like the touch pads and oled but it’s not a deal breaker by any means.
@SilvaDreams I'd say you can do the same on the Ally x, plus it's much much more portable, has a longer battery, with more RAM, and delivers a much higher frame rate on all games. I think that's a checkmate, no?
I think the only issue with the comparison is the price. If they were the same price (or even $100 difference) I think the Ally X would win hands-down. I am still rocking the non-OLED Steam Deck and I still love it. I don't play all the AAA games so it's not as huge of an issue for me.
Much as I love the steam deck, I hate that games I play either aren’t compatible because of steam OS or I need to to do work arounds. Win11 has its issues but once it’s done and set up all my games on different platforms and those with anti cheat has 0 issues right out the gate. I don’t care for a track pad. It just means my gaming pc still finds use. I love that ASUS is upgrading armory crate so much to be on par with steam os.
Pretty much. The problems and minor jank you get with Windows on a handheld is surmountable. The Deck while having some advantages over the Windows handhelds, is just too limiting. I can deal with Windows jank.... I can't deal with a bunch of my favorite games not working at all and having a harder time installing non-steam games, if they will even work in Linux
The right decision is pick either but ensure you put a bigger SSD in there and dual boot. SteamOS + Win11 if you're on SD OLED Bazzite + Win11 if you're on the ROG Ally X I've honestly found this a game changer on the SD OLED I have and having tried Bazzite it's a major plus for the ROG now. Personally I'm sticking with the SD OLED as I love the track pads and use it almost like a tablet at times. The ROG Ally X is too expensive IMO but the battery, dual USB, eGPU stuff is excellent.
The ROG Ally X starts off at $800 while the Steam Deck OLED is $550 and you can get refurbished decks for the same price or less than a switch OLED. The ROG Ally X is clearly for people want high end performance that are willing to spend $800 for a handheld, The Steam Deck will always beat everything else in price and will always be more accessible than any other PC handheld
More accessible price wise? Yes. More accessible games wise? No. It's locking out epic stores and other stores! Clearly the opposite of providing access.
@@jal.ajeera found the person who never used a steam deck. You can literally play games from other stores with heroic games launcher. But you wouldn't know that because you commented without knowing anything about the deck
Torn. I love the SD OLED but also have a pair of those Viture Pro glasses that are OLED and those along with the Ally X might be the real winning combo. Dunno.
The trade off of losing the traditional console feel on ally x over the steam deck is worth it. If you are a windows user you will feel right at home and not have to worry about compatibility of steam os. 😊
Ive just sold my steam deck oled and have an ally x, I plan on upgrading the ssd and installing Bazzite and windows so i have the best of every thing. Just waiting on the ssd to arrive before performing the operation
Loved the steam deck oled, but I’m not gonna lie, some guy in Pennsylvania is loving my steam deck right now cuz I sold that ish as soon as I found out the Ally X performs better and has better battery life Installed bazzite, getting 2-13 hours of battery life depending on what I play. With the steam deck oled I was only getting 2-7 hours of battery life
I can get 8-10 hours on the oled, I noticed a lot of games, you can turn the TDP down to 7, sometimes even 6 and still get good gameplay, that adds a lot of battery life
@@josephhall7317 6w tdp and 12w tdp are perfect for steam deck but even at 15w a lot of games struggle to play on the deck which is why i got a z1e to replace my deck than i sold my z1e to buy the rog ally x it was 100% worth it (my wife took my steam deck lol)
I'm starting to hate windows and I much prefer OLED. Very happy with steam deck and touch pads are amazing. Also Valve is overall a better company. Warranty actually exists.
Yeah but I do understand why it’s more because of the more faster ram, better performing display, bigger battery and 1tb ssd. And 50 bucks isn’t much and also most places were offering 100 bucks off like Best Buy when financed through them at 0 percent and can literally pay it off immediately.
@@ttg889 then go ahead and pay in full. Others may not be able to do that, so there are options for those who can’t. I can. Maybe others should save until they can pay in full. Your opinion is your own so do what you will with your finances.
They raised the price in order to be able to cover people’s warranties. Valve doesn’t make any profit on their steamdecks damn near giving it out for free and hoping they make a profit off their steam digital sales.
Thanks to the awesome steam deck we have the awesome ROG Ally X ……..competition is great for all of us 👍🏼 hope they both continue success . I am truly enjoying my ROG Ally and can’t wait to sale in order to pick up the ROG X
I have both and if i was to choose, it would be the Ally. If theres one thing i would bring over from the SD it would be the OLED screen. The SD is sik but the Ally does it all and more!
Really like the new Ally X but the price is too much for me. Bought Steamdeck Oled 1TB and loving it so much. Very easy to use and with decky plugin, fun to set new art work and music. Even ubisoft and Epic is easy to set with some guide online for the deck.
I own the Steam Deck OLED and i have tried out the Ally X from a friend and to be honest for people that would play mainly online competitive like games or games that would have anti cheat software in them the Ally X would be the go-to system but for someone like myself that mainly plays single player games the Steam Deck OLED is the perfect handheld since i am able to play games like Kingdom Hearts 3 on low and medium settings getting almost 60fps and the new Gundam Breakers 4 game on high settings and get around 70fps (i personally locked it on 45fps for more battery life) and some other retro type of games like the Final Fantasy Pixel collection.
Valve doesn’t ship to Puerto Rico (and by the lack of help on their email they may ever will) so I’ve been waiting for reviews on the rog ally x to see if it’s a good alternative. For now, I think is the easiest, cheapest and safest option for me at the moment.
You need to include the ability to use universal frame generation technology like AFMF 2 and Lossless Scaling on the Ally X as a point of comparison. It literally doubles your framerate and the latency and artifacts have been reduced. The only way to accomplish this on the SD is by running Win11. I own an SD OLED and am contemplating a side grade to Ally X but will probably just wait for the Strix Point APU refresh. What I really want is the AMD Z1 Extreme in an SD OLED. Why this hasn't happened yet is beyond me. Van Gogh is not up to snuff for newer titles.
I have an original Ally and I think it's fantastic - if you're a PC tinkerer. It's not as easy and seamless out of the box the way the Steam Deck OLED is. But if you get joy out of tinkering with Windows a bit, you can really get a wonderful experience out of it. ASUS has also been doing an amazing job keeping it updated and supported. The Deck OLED screen has better colors, black levels, contrast, and viewing angles (and supports HDR), but the Ally and Ally X screens go up to 120hz, have VRR, and double the pixel density. And, while the colors and contrast aren't as nice, they're still pretty damn good. Much better than the Deck LCD. The screens really do trade blows.
I just got the ROG Ally X, I had thea Steam Deck OLED for seven months and I had old LCD before. I have to say, the Ally X is impressive. I'm amazed at how well the Ally handles performance compared to the Deck. Definitely worth the $800. The Steam Deck's performance and compatibility are not great in comparison. with the ally I can play basically any game at 60fps.
I found a well taken care Limited Edition Steam Deck on Ebay and I'm loving it. I'm sure the ROG Ally would do so much better but the SD has been good for me, got emulators on it, been hooked on Elden Ring and re playing some Playstation classics, and been looking into adding that Dual Boot at some point.
I got a Steam Deck OLED back in March and haven't looked back since. I chose it mainly cause I want to play it in the times where I just want to plop on the couch and play and not fuss with settings or OS stuff. I have my desktop for when I want to dial in the very best way to play a game. But the Deck helps me just get straight to playing and being able to play anything from indies to old titles to something like Elden Ring at a near constant 40fps, I don't need much else in a handheld until the Steam Deck 2 comes out
SD OLED is about £230 cheaper where I am and I had issues with windows on legion go, so ultimately ordered a SD OLED. Might wait for the next iteration of the windows handhelds or SD 2
The only thing that is stopping me from getting a rog ally x is the current quality assurance issues that some people are bringing up after they got their ally x from retailers. But overall, the deciding factor for me between the sd oled and rog ally x is emulation. The extra performance of the device along with the longer battery life is the second reason.
I got a gaming PC, the whole point of a cheap steam deck is to make it more affordable for the consumer take your gaming on the go as a complement to your already gaming PC, which if you know what your doing can be made super cheap. An almost 1k dollar device for 1080p gaming idk man. But hey that's just my specific case.
I agree. In the last two years I've played like 4 games that would benefit from more power than what a Steam Deck has, and those games are games I'd just play on my gaming PC anyway. Or VR games, which are their own thing anyway.
I sold my deck to help fund a new Mac computer, I knew I could use Crossover to run the games, and it works, and the computer is powerful enough to run the games at max settings and ray tracing in some.. you have to pay yearly to use Crossover and to get a lifetime licence costs more then a Steam Deck OLED. So I'll keep my Mac for work use and get another Steam Deck lol.
reminds me of apple (steam deck) vs android (rog x) steam is straight forward with limitations like anti cheat rog x is tinkering heaven, freedom to play ALL games
not completely correct, you can install windows on steam deck and play all games, but you probably won't want to since windows is a little stinky on handheld PCs
For me I went with the steam deck oled 1tb because I play mainly indie games, metroidvania's, RPGs and sid Meier's civilization games that aren't very demanding. So for me the steam deck was a better choice for my gaming preferences
Just bought a used ROG ALLY for $380 Canadian, not the X version, but I'd say it's very easy nowadays to get a cheap OG Ally Z1 extreme and nothings a massive difference especially when the X is $1099.99 new and none on the resell market
As a Linux, Windows and Mac User, the short comings of Windows is forgivable compared to the amount of work (and risk if you mess it up) needed to make the Steam Deck overcome all these compatibility issues, the best option right now would be the Legion Go (spec and price wise).
@@thefury4815 an fps limiter doesn't do the same thing that a VRR does, you really need to learn how both work before typing anything in the first place :D
@@altanatmac9896 I know it doesn’t do the same thing. But the fact that you can limit it after getting the game running above the target is exactly what console games use to do before vrr. For example if you don’t have a vrr display you’re locked to 60fps in Spider-Man remastered performance mode but if you have vrr and unlock the framerate you’ll see it runs way above 60fps. Vrr is obviously preferred but being able to limit the fps makes this less of an issue. But good try at assuming you know more than me👍
Steam OS is amazing however the biggest deal breaker to me with these devices has and always will be battery. What’s the point of going portable if you’re always plugged in ? Ally x is starting to address this issue so now I am tempted! I wish it had the amazing OS steam did but compatibility is worth windows flaws.
I’ve been playing a bit of FIFA 17 on my Lenovo Legion Go and honestly, on display any smaller than LeGo has, it would be rather impossible. Would LeGo have this kind of a battery, it would be perfect.
I have both systems, while the oles screen is better. The Ally’s LCD screen is so sharp a colorful it hardly matters. Also the increased performance, bigger battery, and higher ram are just too much to beat. The Ally is king until so,etching else better comes along.
Honestly I just picked both ASUS ROG Ally the original one and the Steam Deck the original one. Besides, they both are looking good, and they're both fantastic and they're both awesome. Now I can play all of the PC games on these two, except the none other profit. These two have windows games on it. Which is perfect. Although ASUS ROG Ally has more Windows games (unlike the Steam Deck, but it has more Windows games from Linux) Although ASUS ROG Ally and Steam Deck are both super cool. And also fantastic and cool (especially Lenovo Legion GO was the ASUS ROG Ally's teammate) Forgive me that I'm wrong but: ASUS ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion GO have the same feature in Windows 11 While Steam Deck has the different features in Steam OS. Don't know what it's gonna be obvious because, I knew right now that nothing in these devices will have different speed. They're both fast and powerful.
Thanks for the video. On the fence… a Steam deck 512 gb are much more affordable. On the other hand it would be nice with better performance. Tough choice :)
Considering the fact that valves support is great and asus' support is crap, I'd go for the steam deck. Sadly had to rma my deck after 7 months of hardcore use but the support they offered until now is great, can't wait to have it back.
@@fresco_dinero5155 with all the horror stories about the Asus RMA I consider you lucky. It took valve not even 2 days from the deck being delivered to the facility until I got the tracking number for the repaired deck. I just hope ups is quick this time.
I have to disagree with the I ally X because you decreased the power, it defeats the purpose of the gain performance therefore, it’s not worth it and it’s more expensive and hotter
I have a Steam Deck LCD and I honestly won't switch it until there is a new version of the console, with a new generation of AMD APUs and new specs. After the scandal about ASUS customer service, I also don't intend to buy ASUS products so quickly.
Love my steam deck oled. Play a few hours, put it to sleep, click a button and back to gaming....Also, no need to deal with all the windows bullshit when I simply want to pick it up and game. Also, oled is just a different ball game.
I had sd oled and asus Rog ally z1x, if you want the same amount of noise, then you need 18-19w tdp on ally and changed fan curves. With such limit you are going to 900p to feel comfortable in large games. And in the result you get the performance of the steam deck. So what's the point?
It's a shame that the potential advantage of the Steam Deck is a disadvantage, because the OLED screen used in SD is terribly low quality and destroys vision. It uses PWM flickering and temporal dithering. Ally / Ally X on the other hand have superb high quality LCD display with no PWM flickering which is much better for the eyes.
Personally, the way I see it if you buy a ROG Ally X you're losing out on everything except raw power and resolution; and I'm looking at my games library and the only games I've played in the last two years that would perhaps benefit from more power than what a Steam Deck has would be MSFS, RDR2, BeamNG and Cities Skylines. The rest are VR games, which are their own thing, or older titles, indie titles, or emulated games, all of which the Deck is perfect for with its superior controls thanks to not only the number of buttons it has but also Steam Input customizability, and the size of the Deck userbase making it so every game on earth has deck-tailored settings and plugins and mods and stuff around somewhere. And if you're playing sweaty ass FPS's you're better off with the highly customizable Deck trackpads anyway over joysticks. And even in those 4 games I mentioned, I personally wouldn't touch any of them outside my gaming PC anyway. So I'm just sitting here wondering exactly what games people are so anxious to play on the go that that the Steam Deck can't handle.
first of all I can't believe you're actually being serious typing that people would rather buy the SD cause it has trackpads for their FPS games (when they barely run in the first place) second, your own choice of games run at least 20% better on the ROG ally X than your SD, wanting more performance and fps is not an issue of anxiety like you think it is. Knowing that no matter what games come out, no matter what resolution you choose or what happens inside of said game being able to enjoy a smooth 60 fps because of the VRR inside of the ROG ally X is just a benefit that the SD can't have and lastly there are games that the SD legit can't run, you should try and emulate PS3 or XBOX360 games on your SD as some barely reach 20fps for example my favourite games like GOW 3, infamous or demon's souls all run poorly, and even some AAA games that are in theory supposed to run on the SD don't cause the games are optimised poorly that's when having more performance comes in clutch because you still get a smooth experience that you otherwise wouldn't on a different console. I know I am not the only person in this case i don't think the SteamOS is that appealing like you think it is, sure windows has it's issues and it's not the best OS for handheld gaming, but you still get to enjoy all the games with all the setups that you want and all game launcher, for example I have the xbox game pass and i still have steam games and being able to run both on the same device is just a given i would never want to give up on. And let's just not talk about running elden ring for barely more than a hour on a SD where you get at least 2 and half hour on the ally X.
After several journeys through the minefield of youtube reviewers, I've came to conclusion that everyone has a pro and a con with every handheld from lenovo steamdeck, Msi, and Rog, especially for the cost of these rigs. So I'm still confused . If anyone can point me in the right direction it's gratefully appreciated. 😊
Hoping to get some advice…. I currently have the SD LCD version and LOVE it, but am looking to upgrade. Should I keep my existing SD and just pick up the ALLY X? Or get the OLED version SD?
Steamdeck: No Windows 11! Gyroscope - fantastik, Touchpads - fantastik, Remote play from high-end PC (Sunshine + Moonlight) → in the comfortable bed, no compromise in setting... this device is unbeatable, but it depends how the user want to use it.
Does anyone know if you can download and play XBOX Game Pass games offline or do you need to be connected to WiFi? My experience with cloud gaming hasn't been great and this is one of my big points before buying
have both myself and i kinda have to disagree on the displays, OLED is without a doubt much better than IPS, in every way, the blacks, the pixel response etc etc... i use an LG C1 as my pc display and have done for 3 years now, would not go back, but in handheld form i find myself enjoying the display of the Ally X more... i play more games where the resolution has a direct impact on the experience, while the OLED only really starts to really shine when playing in a dark environment. For example a game like cult of the lamb looks pretty horrible on the deck OLED, the grass just looks like an aliased mess, rocket league is basically unplayable on deck for me because there is no detail in the depth as the opposite team is blurred out as well as aliasing, games like yakuza/judgement look ok until you pause the game and the menu writing is all broken up and incoherent thanks to the resolution. The ally has none of these issues with the display, the resolution is far crisper, small writing stays legible, it also lends itself to being kinder on the eyes when using FSR, VRR does what VRR does and deals with framerate fluctuation... yeh im taking the Ally display. Almost everything else, i prefer the deck OLED. I get a kick out of how efficient it is... even though it loses the battery battle so its meaningless i still get a kick out of playing games like cue club 2 at 3-4w achieving 90fps and getting 12 hours battery... i can get the ally X to last just as long but it does it by sheer brute force of battery size and its not nearly as satisfying in my head lol. I prefer steam OS, although i have dual booted bazzite to my ally X so its kinda best of both worlds... I think i prefer the Ally overall generally but something always makes me go back to main the deck.
Im going to disagree with you on the yakuza I havent had any issues with playing any of the games and I even played the demo for isshin like a dragon and it was smooth sailing but i play most of the games in deskstop mode
@@illicitburn9386 it was just in regards to resolution and it’s only in the pause menu (phone) on yakuza where the resolution is a clear example…. It does not pose a problem for playing the game in general and on steam deck it plays quite well, especially locked to 40fps. But yeh just an example of how the resolution affects small text. You see it right? The words are broken and not quite complete? That’s the resolution.
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Ah yes I've heard of that game it don't look too bad 😁
nobody asked!
Trash microtransaction game
@@ChampagneOppa facts
What best for elden ring
PC gaming on handhelds now because a mouse and keyboard just makes me think of work
Exactly man! Like I work in IT I don’t wanna play with another work related like equipment lmaoo
Either that or buy a gaming laptop and buy a gaming controller with it haha
@@Juju-s1z but I’m sucker for handhelds 😂
Same! When I do game at home, it’s on a TV with a controller, not in an office next to a file cabinet. User space is all part of the experience, after all!
Well thank god i work with my hands i guess. 😂
The ROG Ally X is none less than 1000 euros over here. I consider myself to be a true gamer, but that is where I draw the line lol
you can do open box at best buy for over $100 less when they become available and you can finance for 18 months with no interest to make less of an immediate financial impact. but dont do it if you are poor/not decent financially.
@@nemesis8508..... Nobody who is financially sound would finance this... Financing luxury items is dumb.
@@nemesis8508financing stuff that you want not need is dumb .
Its a bit cheaper where im from but im buying it as soon as possible
@@nemesis8508 If you are financing a video game device you are not in a good spot financially
Ive actually came from Steam Deck and Oled when released to AllyX. I know what first Ally was, but battery was a big NO for me. Now I cant look back to Steam Deck, I do miss Oled screen, but ohh boy, everything works so much better, from installing whatever I want, not steam only or fidling about with linux to get it working (different game lunchers), to using and installing mods and this necessary bump to performance helps a ton to play with tech like afmf2 or fsr3 frame generation!
I'm pushing Shadow of Erdtree to 70 - 80 fps, 1080p, high details with fsr3 frame gen mod on Ally X! Hardly any lag or glitches as much.
Incredible!
I'm coming from a Lenovo legion go to the Asus ally x (not here yet), I know it's not a huge jump in performance but the extra RAM should smooth out most games I've had issues with on the Legion go, can't wait
I went with the Steam Deck. It's $100 cheaper for the 1 tb model and the custom Steam OS is more controller friendly when setting things up and navigating menus.
Screen has pwm so if ur unlucky u cant use it without getting tierd eyes and headache
But some games are incompatible right? Like games with Anti Cheats
150$ cheaper, right?
@TNTahirI mean it feels like you’re constantly “tinkering around” when using windows on a handheld. Just not anywhere even close to as fleshed out as windows on a pc.
@@patrickkarlmitton3556you can still get those games to work, it just takes some tinkering. My question is who’s buying a steam deck to play specifically competitive games on it? My guess would be not very many people
I just got my Steam Deck OLED this month and have zero regrets. The Deck has been able to easily handle everything I've thrown at it! The Ally is more expensive, I'd have to install Bazzite (really do not ever want to use Windows again) and the lack of trackpads and OLED are deal breakers for me personally.
I have a Legion Go and have been considering installing Bazzite.
Steamdeck Oled is king! Most people already have a gaming PC or laptop LOL
@@Abizzy84legion go and ally x are better without a doubt. Steam deck is outdated in 2024
@@Godsslave777legion go is trash and ally x is too expensive. And they both run windows….
@@Abizzy84what’s your definition of “most people”? Because most people in general definitely don’t, but most gamers do, if that’s what you meant
I still don't understand how my series X cannot play series X/S optimized games on an external ssd, but I can play cyberpunk 2077 and games like that on a 1tb micro SD card in my steam deck oled
One of my favorite things about the Steam Deck OLED is never having to touch the screen lol. One my windows handheld I have to constantly clean fingerprints off of the screen
il just wanna add, Valve has a better Customer Support than Asus
This is a KEY difference. Needs mentioned in all comparisons.
They already changed their warranty policies and gave an extended warranties for the original ally. At this point the only ones complaining about their customer support are Steamdeck users who never had an ally to begin with.
@@StopJerkingOff you are missing the point, the Asus Company itself is the problem with their customer support, not only the ally, it affects all their products. i own a lot of Asus products and i had my own share of problem in their CS
@@iamdickel8574 yea buddy sure you do😂
The customer service in Europe is perfect, USA isn't the center of the World...
I ended up buying both cause I could not decide. They both come in on Friday and I’ll return the one I like less.
@@moethep4148 that’s dumb…
@@JudahiamKng not really
@@luck1057 yea really when both do the same thing except one does it better. The deck is highly overrated
Get them yet Which one are you keeping?
@@Tneo7 for me personally the ally X is the definitely the better handheld. If you want ease of use and use it to either emulate, play steam games or maybe stream and that’s it id go with the steam deck. The ally X can do way more like play game pass natively which to me is huge, play anti cheat games like Fortnite. Showing my brother who loves Fortnite that you could play on a handheld and so well blew his mind. I also bought a bunch of accessories and plan to run Bazzite which gives the steam experience as well as pc in dual boot , a dock to plug in a keyboard and mouse since I don’t have a pc yet and this becomes a portable one when I want it to. It’s more powerful so if you like triple a games like cod, gears of war, halo, baldurs gate this blows the steam deck out the water. There’s definitely things I’ll miss from the deck like the touch pads and oled but it’s not a deal breaker by any means.
OLED Deck owner. I have a beefy PC for all my demanding games, and the Deck for everything else :) the OS is unmatched
At the expense of playing any game I want? No thanks I'll stick to windows for now.
@kalista37 Now what if I told you that you can duel boot on the Steam Deck and have both?
@SilvaDreams I'd say you can do the same on the Ally x, plus it's much much more portable, has a longer battery, with more RAM, and delivers a much higher frame rate on all games. I think that's a checkmate, no?
I think the only issue with the comparison is the price. If they were the same price (or even $100 difference) I think the Ally X would win hands-down. I am still rocking the non-OLED Steam Deck and I still love it. I don't play all the AAA games so it's not as huge of an issue for me.
Steam Deck for me!!!
I have a Steam Deck OLED, and just swapped my Ally in for an Ally X! I will definitely take my Ally X over the Steam Deck as I did with the Ally.
Much as I love the steam deck, I hate that games I play either aren’t compatible because of steam OS or I need to to do work arounds. Win11 has its issues but once it’s done and set up all my games on different platforms and those with anti cheat has 0 issues right out the gate. I don’t care for a track pad. It just means my gaming pc still finds use. I love that ASUS is upgrading armory crate so much to be on par with steam os.
Pretty much. The problems and minor jank you get with Windows on a handheld is surmountable. The Deck while having some advantages over the Windows handhelds, is just too limiting. I can deal with Windows jank.... I can't deal with a bunch of my favorite games not working at all and having a harder time installing non-steam games, if they will even work in Linux
The right decision is pick either but ensure you put a bigger SSD in there and dual boot.
SteamOS + Win11 if you're on SD OLED
Bazzite + Win11 if you're on the ROG Ally X
I've honestly found this a game changer on the SD OLED I have and having tried Bazzite it's a major plus for the ROG now.
Personally I'm sticking with the SD OLED as I love the track pads and use it almost like a tablet at times.
The ROG Ally X is too expensive IMO but the battery, dual USB, eGPU stuff is excellent.
There is no windows driver for steamdeck oled , only for the lcd one
How do you do dual boot with the Steam deck ?
The ROG Ally X starts off at $800 while the Steam Deck OLED is $550 and you can get refurbished decks for the same price or less than a switch OLED.
The ROG Ally X is clearly for people want high end performance that are willing to spend $800 for a handheld, The Steam Deck will always beat everything else in price and will always be more accessible than any other PC handheld
@@BigMoods dude we already know that you love Asus, don't need to flood the comment section lol
Got my ally from best buy for 399 brand new. Its a fun toy
@@BigMoods I mostly dock my Steam Deck and play at 900p or 1080p
More accessible price wise? Yes.
More accessible games wise? No. It's locking out epic stores and other stores! Clearly the opposite of providing access.
@@jal.ajeera found the person who never used a steam deck. You can literally play games from other stores with heroic games launcher.
But you wouldn't know that because you commented without knowing anything about the deck
Torn. I love the SD OLED but also have a pair of those Viture Pro glasses that are OLED and those along with the Ally X might be the real winning combo. Dunno.
Watching this while my deck lcd has windows on it 😮
The Ally X its the best handled pc for me, no doubt!
Yea, I just picked it up and I already know I’m going to get the Ally 2 which will undoubtedly have a larger screen and an OLED screen at that.
For nearly 1000$ it better be.
Nice I really have to get either one of these handhelds for when our house loses power one day etc. :)
The trade off of losing the traditional console feel on ally x over the steam deck is worth it. If you are a windows user you will feel right at home and not have to worry about compatibility of steam os. 😊
And if I just buy both because I’m irresponsible?
Nah
Then you should learn to be more responsible? you dont need to buy everything that comes out. There is no point of owning two handheld pc's.
Who cares theyre both gonna cost u like 2k. Thats not even a flex
It's ur money do what you want
Skill issue
I'm just here for the Fuecoco in the background.
BD-1 for me
Ive just sold my steam deck oled and have an ally x, I plan on upgrading the ssd and installing Bazzite and windows so i have the best of every thing. Just waiting on the ssd to arrive before performing the operation
Bazzite is so goods 😊
Why sell steam deck oled? I could never lose my trackpads or sleep mode
@@DrawsWithCubes because I don’t require 2 handhelds and I don’t use the track pads. Sleep mode is supported with Bazzite so that’s covered also
@@BigMoods yea it looks fantastic, give me my steam deck experience and i get to dual boot into windows for the games that need anti cheat .. win win
@@DrawsWithCubesperformance is way too big a difference for me to even consider buying a steam deck plus you get used to using a stick.
Loved the steam deck oled, but I’m not gonna lie, some guy in Pennsylvania is loving my steam deck right now cuz I sold that ish as soon as I found out the Ally X performs better and has better battery life
Installed bazzite, getting 2-13 hours of battery life depending on what I play. With the steam deck oled I was only getting 2-7 hours of battery life
I can get 8-10 hours on the oled, I noticed a lot of games, you can turn the TDP down to 7, sometimes even 6 and still get good gameplay, that adds a lot of battery life
@@josephhall7317 6w tdp and 12w tdp are perfect for steam deck but even at 15w a lot of games struggle to play on the deck which is why i got a z1e to replace my deck than i sold my z1e to buy the rog ally x it was 100% worth it (my wife took my steam deck lol)
Same boat my good sir. My Oled gone. Bazzite on the x dual boot is the best of both worlds and I can play all my games.
Yeah it’s truly amazing. I’m really thinking of portioning my 4TB ssd to install bazzite.
@@Will_Bx_NYC_718it's worth it. It's literally a better steam deck with Bazzite.
perfectly captures the handheld scene
plus I t hink not enough people talk about vrr and how good it is in ally's, it make a big difference in gameplay!
I'm starting to hate windows and I much prefer OLED. Very happy with steam deck and touch pads are amazing.
Also Valve is overall a better company. Warranty actually exists.
Can it play dogma 2 😂😂😂😂
If this Ally X was $749 I think people would jump on it more it’s an Amazing machine .
Yeah but I do understand why it’s more because of the more faster ram, better performing display, bigger battery and 1tb ssd. And 50 bucks isn’t much and also most places were offering 100 bucks off like Best Buy when financed through them at 0 percent and can literally pay it off immediately.
Nope
@@ttg889 then go ahead and pay in full. Others may not be able to do that, so there are options for those who can’t. I can. Maybe others should save until they can pay in full. Your opinion is your own so do what you will with your finances.
They raised the price in order to be able to cover people’s warranties. Valve doesn’t make any profit on their steamdecks damn near giving it out for free and hoping they make a profit off their steam digital sales.
Thanks to the awesome steam deck we have the awesome ROG Ally X ……..competition is great for all of us 👍🏼 hope they both continue success . I am truly enjoying my ROG Ally and can’t wait to sale in order to pick up the ROG X
I have both and if i was to choose, it would be the Ally. If theres one thing i would bring over from the SD it would be the OLED screen. The SD is sik but the Ally does it all and more!
Really like the new Ally X but the price is too much for me. Bought Steamdeck Oled 1TB and loving it so much. Very easy to use and with decky plugin, fun to set new art work and music. Even ubisoft and Epic is easy to set with some guide online for the deck.
I own the Steam Deck OLED and i have tried out the Ally X from a friend and to be honest for people that would play mainly online competitive like games or games that would have anti cheat software in them the Ally X would be the go-to system but for someone like myself that mainly plays single player games the Steam Deck OLED is the perfect handheld since i am able to play games like Kingdom Hearts 3 on low and medium settings getting almost 60fps and the new Gundam Breakers 4 game on high settings and get around 70fps (i personally locked it on 45fps for more battery life) and some other retro type of games like the Final Fantasy Pixel collection.
So the steam deck is still the winner. Valve for the win! Can’t wait for the deck 2!
Smt v vengeance you have good taste 😊
Valve doesn’t ship to Puerto Rico (and by the lack of help on their email they may ever will) so I’ve been waiting for reviews on the rog ally x to see if it’s a good alternative. For now, I think is the easiest, cheapest and safest option for me at the moment.
You need to include the ability to use universal frame generation technology like AFMF 2 and Lossless Scaling on the Ally X as a point of comparison. It literally doubles your framerate and the latency and artifacts have been reduced. The only way to accomplish this on the SD is by running Win11. I own an SD OLED and am contemplating a side grade to Ally X but will probably just wait for the Strix Point APU refresh. What I really want is the AMD Z1 Extreme in an SD OLED. Why this hasn't happened yet is beyond me. Van Gogh is not up to snuff for newer titles.
For my money the steam deck is the best option out there.
I have an original Ally and I think it's fantastic - if you're a PC tinkerer. It's not as easy and seamless out of the box the way the Steam Deck OLED is. But if you get joy out of tinkering with Windows a bit, you can really get a wonderful experience out of it. ASUS has also been doing an amazing job keeping it updated and supported.
The Deck OLED screen has better colors, black levels, contrast, and viewing angles (and supports HDR), but the Ally and Ally X screens go up to 120hz, have VRR, and double the pixel density. And, while the colors and contrast aren't as nice, they're still pretty damn good. Much better than the Deck LCD. The screens really do trade blows.
Steamdeck is an easy choice for me, i don't need more power in my handheld honestly, the high graphics games i'll play on my PC anyway.
I just got the ROG Ally X, I had thea Steam Deck OLED for seven months and I had old LCD before. I have to say, the Ally X is impressive. I'm amazed at how well the Ally handles performance compared to the Deck. Definitely worth the $800. The Steam Deck's performance and compatibility are not great in comparison. with the ally I can play basically any game at 60fps.
I found a well taken care Limited Edition Steam Deck on Ebay and I'm loving it.
I'm sure the ROG Ally would do so much better but the SD has been good for me, got emulators on it, been hooked on Elden Ring and re playing some Playstation classics, and been looking into adding that Dual Boot at some point.
I got a Steam Deck OLED back in March and haven't looked back since. I chose it mainly cause I want to play it in the times where I just want to plop on the couch and play and not fuss with settings or OS stuff. I have my desktop for when I want to dial in the very best way to play a game. But the Deck helps me just get straight to playing and being able to play anything from indies to old titles to something like Elden Ring at a near constant 40fps, I don't need much else in a handheld until the Steam Deck 2 comes out
SD OLED is about £230 cheaper where I am and I had issues with windows on legion go, so ultimately ordered a SD OLED. Might wait for the next iteration of the windows handhelds or SD 2
The only thing that is stopping me from getting a rog ally x is the current quality assurance issues that some people are bringing up after they got their ally x from retailers. But overall, the deciding factor for me between the sd oled and rog ally x is emulation. The extra performance of the device along with the longer battery life is the second reason.
I got a gaming PC, the whole point of a cheap steam deck is to make it more affordable for the consumer take your gaming on the go as a complement to your already gaming PC, which if you know what your doing can be made super cheap. An almost 1k dollar device for 1080p gaming idk man.
But hey that's just my specific case.
I agree. In the last two years I've played like 4 games that would benefit from more power than what a Steam Deck has, and those games are games I'd just play on my gaming PC anyway. Or VR games, which are their own thing anyway.
I sold my deck to help fund a new Mac computer, I knew I could use Crossover to run the games, and it works, and the computer is powerful enough to run the games at max settings and ray tracing in some.. you have to pay yearly to use Crossover and to get a lifetime licence costs more then a Steam Deck OLED. So I'll keep my Mac for work use and get another Steam Deck lol.
reminds me of apple (steam deck) vs android (rog x)
steam is straight forward with limitations like anti cheat
rog x is tinkering heaven, freedom to play ALL games
not completely correct, you can install windows on steam deck and play all games, but you probably won't want to since windows is a little stinky on handheld PCs
@@TheNameIsSR was considering on installing win OS on the deck way back but you’re right about games not running well on deck🥲
For me I went with the steam deck oled 1tb because I play mainly indie games, metroidvania's, RPGs and sid Meier's civilization games that aren't very demanding. So for me the steam deck was a better choice for my gaming preferences
wait till the honey moon period is over from the ally X buyers then you'll get real feed back on the pros n cons
Just bought a used ROG ALLY for $380 Canadian, not the X version, but I'd say it's very easy nowadays to get a cheap OG Ally Z1 extreme and nothings a massive difference especially when the X is $1099.99 new and none on the resell market
As a Linux, Windows and Mac User, the short comings of Windows is forgivable compared to the amount of work (and risk if you mess it up) needed to make the Steam Deck overcome all these compatibility issues, the best option right now would be the Legion Go (spec and price wise).
The Ally and Ally X both have VRR, which is so vital for these handhelds. I'll take that screen.
Being able to set an fps limit removes this issue on the steam deck.
VRR is absolutely not vital.
@@thefury4815 an fps limiter doesn't do the same thing that a VRR does, you really need to learn how both work before typing anything in the first place :D
@@altanatmac9896 I know it doesn’t do the same thing. But the fact that you can limit it after getting the game running above the target is exactly what console games use to do before vrr. For example if you don’t have a vrr display you’re locked to 60fps in Spider-Man remastered performance mode but if you have vrr and unlock the framerate you’ll see it runs way above 60fps. Vrr is obviously preferred but being able to limit the fps makes this less of an issue. But good try at assuming you know more than me👍
Steam OS is amazing however the biggest deal breaker to me with these devices has and always will be battery. What’s the point of going portable if you’re always plugged in ? Ally x is starting to address this issue so now I am tempted! I wish it had the amazing OS steam did but compatibility is worth windows flaws.
I’ve been playing a bit of FIFA 17 on my Lenovo Legion Go and honestly, on display any smaller than LeGo has, it would be rather impossible.
Would LeGo have this kind of a battery, it would be perfect.
After all these Years Valve is still not selling Steam Deck World Wide wake up Valve.
2-3 hours battery life is insane
In a bad way
I'm a simple man. I see Trails in the Sky, I like.
No, you're not.
I have both systems, while the oles screen is better. The Ally’s LCD screen is so sharp a colorful it hardly matters. Also the increased performance, bigger battery, and higher ram are just too much to beat. The Ally is king until so,etching else better comes along.
Honestly I just picked both ASUS ROG Ally the original one and the Steam Deck the original one.
Besides, they both are looking good, and they're both fantastic and they're both awesome.
Now I can play all of the PC games on these two, except the none other profit.
These two have windows games on it. Which is perfect.
Although ASUS ROG Ally has more Windows games (unlike the Steam Deck, but it has more Windows games from Linux)
Although ASUS ROG Ally and Steam Deck are both super cool. And also fantastic and cool (especially Lenovo Legion GO was the ASUS ROG Ally's teammate)
Forgive me that I'm wrong but:
ASUS ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion GO have the same feature in Windows 11
While Steam Deck has the different features in Steam OS.
Don't know what it's gonna be obvious because, I knew right now that nothing in these devices will have different speed. They're both fast and powerful.
Thanks for the video. On the fence… a Steam deck 512 gb are much more affordable. On the other hand it would be nice with better performance. Tough choice :)
steam deck os for compatible games + up to ps2 emu and rog ally for games with trainers + ps3 emu. def need both
ROG ally is good machine probably going get one one day over all I have PC but I would love to use this thing for traveling
watching steam deck reviews while can't afford it
Rog Ally X rocks. I have been using it lately.
the ally x seems awesome, but i'm happy with my SD oled 512. maybe i'll reevaluate it once ally gets steam os.
Is the ROG Ally better if you want to play games from different launchers? Windows (Xbox play anywhere), Steam, Epic, etc.
Love my rog ally x glad i sold my z1e to pay for most of it
Considering the fact that valves support is great and asus' support is crap, I'd go for the steam deck.
Sadly had to rma my deck after 7 months of hardcore use but the support they offered until now is great, can't wait to have it back.
I had to RMA my Ally and got it back in 2 weeks flat and everything was fixed
@@fresco_dinero5155 with all the horror stories about the Asus RMA I consider you lucky.
It took valve not even 2 days from the deck being delivered to the facility until I got the tracking number for the repaired deck. I just hope ups is quick this time.
ROG is just missing an 120hz OLED and it’s game over for steam deck for now‼️
I have to disagree with the I ally X because you decreased the power, it defeats the purpose of the gain performance therefore, it’s not worth it and it’s more expensive and hotter
for mobile/handheld devices B A T T E R Y performance is priority.
I have a Steam Deck LCD and I honestly won't switch it until there is a new version of the console, with a new generation of AMD APUs and new specs. After the scandal about ASUS customer service, I also don't intend to buy ASUS products so quickly.
Love my steam deck oled. Play a few hours, put it to sleep, click a button and back to gaming....Also, no need to deal with all the windows bullshit when I simply want to pick it up and game. Also, oled is just a different ball game.
I had sd oled and asus Rog ally z1x, if you want the same amount of noise, then you need 18-19w tdp on ally and changed fan curves. With such limit you are going to 900p to feel comfortable in large games. And in the result you get the performance of the steam deck. So what's the point?
It's a shame that the potential advantage of the Steam Deck is a disadvantage, because the OLED screen used in SD is terribly low quality and destroys vision. It uses PWM flickering and temporal dithering. Ally / Ally X on the other hand have superb high quality LCD display with no PWM flickering which is much better for the eyes.
I have two games on Steam. I can't run on the deck, Yatagarasu Attack on Cataclysm and Vanguard Princess, but I can run them on the ROG Ally.
Ally w/ Bazzite / W11 dual boot ❤️
The LCD steam deck is still the best bang for your buck.
No. OG ally at $450 is best bang for buck
@@fresco_dinero5155 To play for 35 minutes AAA titles if unplugged ? Nah
@@javieralejandro3773 lcd steam deck battery life is like 15 minutes better
Personally, the way I see it if you buy a ROG Ally X you're losing out on everything except raw power and resolution; and I'm looking at my games library and the only games I've played in the last two years that would perhaps benefit from more power than what a Steam Deck has would be MSFS, RDR2, BeamNG and Cities Skylines. The rest are VR games, which are their own thing, or older titles, indie titles, or emulated games, all of which the Deck is perfect for with its superior controls thanks to not only the number of buttons it has but also Steam Input customizability, and the size of the Deck userbase making it so every game on earth has deck-tailored settings and plugins and mods and stuff around somewhere. And if you're playing sweaty ass FPS's you're better off with the highly customizable Deck trackpads anyway over joysticks.
And even in those 4 games I mentioned, I personally wouldn't touch any of them outside my gaming PC anyway. So I'm just sitting here wondering exactly what games people are so anxious to play on the go that that the Steam Deck can't handle.
first of all I can't believe you're actually being serious typing that people would rather buy the SD cause it has trackpads for their FPS games (when they barely run in the first place) second, your own choice of games run at least 20% better on the ROG ally X than your SD, wanting more performance and fps is not an issue of anxiety like you think it is. Knowing that no matter what games come out, no matter what resolution you choose or what happens inside of said game being able to enjoy a smooth 60 fps because of the VRR inside of the ROG ally X is just a benefit that the SD can't have and lastly there are games that the SD legit can't run, you should try and emulate PS3 or XBOX360 games on your SD as some barely reach 20fps for example my favourite games like GOW 3, infamous or demon's souls all run poorly, and even some AAA games that are in theory supposed to run on the SD don't cause the games are optimised poorly that's when having more performance comes in clutch because you still get a smooth experience that you otherwise wouldn't on a different console. I know I am not the only person in this case i don't think the SteamOS is that appealing like you think it is, sure windows has it's issues and it's not the best OS for handheld gaming, but you still get to enjoy all the games with all the setups that you want and all game launcher, for example I have the xbox game pass and i still have steam games and being able to run both on the same device is just a given i would never want to give up on. And let's just not talk about running elden ring for barely more than a hour on a SD where you get at least 2 and half hour on the ally X.
After several journeys through the minefield of youtube reviewers, I've came to conclusion that everyone has a pro and a con with every handheld from lenovo steamdeck, Msi, and Rog, especially for the cost of these rigs. So I'm still confused . If anyone can point me in the right direction it's gratefully appreciated. 😊
OLED deck 2 is what I want this ain't it. That and a steam deck VR would be nice lol
Steam OS on Steam Deck is stable. The Proton layers are not, unfortunately. Otherwise all games would be approved.
I have 1tb oled and Ally X. I'm looking at dual booting with bazzite and selling the Deck. Once ive researched it more
This would be great if they lowered the price.
Hoping to get some advice….
I currently have the SD LCD version and LOVE it, but am looking to upgrade. Should I keep my existing SD and just pick up the ALLY X? Or get the OLED version SD?
Steamdeck: No Windows 11! Gyroscope - fantastik, Touchpads - fantastik, Remote play from high-end PC (Sunshine + Moonlight) → in the comfortable bed, no compromise in setting... this device is unbeatable, but it depends how the user want to use it.
Came back here after 4 years , good stuff
so I'll wait for an ROG Ally with an OLED display..
Does anyone know if you can download and play XBOX Game Pass games offline or do you need to be connected to WiFi? My experience with cloud gaming hasn't been great and this is one of my big points before buying
have both myself and i kinda have to disagree on the displays, OLED is without a doubt much better than IPS, in every way, the blacks, the pixel response etc etc... i use an LG C1 as my pc display and have done for 3 years now, would not go back, but in handheld form i find myself enjoying the display of the Ally X more... i play more games where the resolution has a direct impact on the experience, while the OLED only really starts to really shine when playing in a dark environment. For example a game like cult of the lamb looks pretty horrible on the deck OLED, the grass just looks like an aliased mess, rocket league is basically unplayable on deck for me because there is no detail in the depth as the opposite team is blurred out as well as aliasing, games like yakuza/judgement look ok until you pause the game and the menu writing is all broken up and incoherent thanks to the resolution. The ally has none of these issues with the display, the resolution is far crisper, small writing stays legible, it also lends itself to being kinder on the eyes when using FSR, VRR does what VRR does and deals with framerate fluctuation... yeh im taking the Ally display.
Almost everything else, i prefer the deck OLED. I get a kick out of how efficient it is... even though it loses the battery battle so its meaningless i still get a kick out of playing games like cue club 2 at 3-4w achieving 90fps and getting 12 hours battery... i can get the ally X to last just as long but it does it by sheer brute force of battery size and its not nearly as satisfying in my head lol. I prefer steam OS, although i have dual booted bazzite to my ally X so its kinda best of both worlds... I think i prefer the Ally overall generally but something always makes me go back to main the deck.
Im going to disagree with you on the yakuza I havent had any issues with playing any of the games and I even played the demo for isshin like a dragon and it was smooth sailing but i play most of the games in deskstop mode
@@illicitburn9386 it was just in regards to resolution and it’s only in the pause menu (phone) on yakuza where the resolution is a clear example…. It does not pose a problem for playing the game in general and on steam deck it plays quite well, especially locked to 40fps. But yeh just an example of how the resolution affects small text. You see it right? The words are broken and not quite complete? That’s the resolution.
@@jinx20001 I gottacha
Ally x with bazzite is so good
You forgot to mention ally x has free sync.
I recently got a rog ally z1 extreme but I feel like I like my steam deck oled more still
Some games have anti-chear that actually needs Windows to run and isn't supported on steamdeck
I'm extremely torn when ppl ask me.I love the ALLY X, but it's 800uss.
How is the suspend/resume on the Ally X? Does it perform as well as the deck or do you need to save before-hand "just in case?"
Save because it doesn't work well.
Save cause u have I have no clue hire it works, lol
@@TheUAProdigyyou can easily change some settings around to enable a true sleep mode.
Legion Go. Size matters.
Its not the same storage because of the different form factors