Having a tough time choosing tires. The Cooper AT3 4S's, or the Mortormaster X Trail Eliminators. I have seen them both with rebates on the coopers the price is 4 dollars different right now. The x tail looks like a tire cooper has called the discoverer rugged trek that i see online but if you look almost the same. When I press down on both tires( tire by themself 2 hands) the x trail is very stable makes me think once a rim and air are in there it would be more solid, or not. But the softness or flex could be better for when the temp drops, providing more grip. etc. The cooper did at3 4s and had more flex but I imagine that is just a difference in the compound or tread direction, but the plys are the same🤔...anyways the x trails felt stickier a bit lil more than the Cooper at3 4s, but only a little more....siping both were good 👍 tread patterns were different but the siping on the coopers from yrs in the past window shopping, I know they go all the way down and know the performance on snow and ice are good something to consider. Even though both tires in ratings are almost identical the x-trails are 100% On Ice'96 on snow, Coopers are 100% on snow 96 or 96 on ice, they're both all weather all terrains and have the three Peak Mountain snowflakes and like I said the motor Masters X trails are made by Cooper. If you go check out Cooper's rugged Trek discoverer, I don't know how old they are, not considering those at all, just something I noticed and thought was interesting. So other than both of them being weather rated and made by Cooper it's tuff. I mention don't 't know if this makes sense or a difference, but pressing down on both of them just standing up, and one had a little bit more Flex than the other Lil easier to push down, that was the Cooper at34s, the x-trail being a little harder depressed down, which appealed to me because my passenger snow tires I had last year, sidewall bulged out the side didn't like at all soft didn't' give that stability you have from an A/T tire which also can take bumps and hard terrains like packed ice in the back alleys and side roads, and not be rattled. It was not a good experience, I have had all terrains the entire time owning this vehicle(2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.3l awd, which is why I am going with snow-rated A/T. Maybe that is one reason to go for the Motormasters, though I don't imagine I would have much of a problem even though these are passenger tires A/Ts with a stronger compound. Stiffer might not be the best either because I was told the light truck tires weren't recommended for my vehicle because would be harder on the suspension, I figured this could be true with the x-trail even though it's designed for the size of the vehicle, but I would rather have the security and stability than a flimsy tire that bulge, I would take that chance, plus the plys are the same as I mentioned. All in all, they're both about the same and they're both made by Cooper, they both have the snowflake, and both have been tested in the severe Canadian weather that we get in this region. Other than the motor master x-trail eliminators being newer and a little more sticky than the Discover a t 3 4, and a little stiffer to push down, I'm at a stalemate. The siping direction and tread pattern are different but seem really good. The pattern of the Cooper is more forward directional, which for stopping and starting might grip better, but the multi-direction of the Motormaster's might help in sliding sideways to recapture and regrip, who knows? I know the Cooper AT3 4S are definitely good performers around the globe and have had time because they have been around longer. I have to make a decision in a couple of weeks for my appointment to get them on, but I am going down to Canadian Tire now to put a deposit on both, till I decide. . If somebody could help me I appreciate it, and let me know about the push test that might not nothing to do with anything, and also look at the Cooper rugged Trek I'm not buying or looking at, but they look similar tread wise sidewall-wise to the motor Master Eliminator X trails. I've studied and watched and seen the performance online of the AT3 discoverers so I know they are good, but those have been out for 4 years already, and the x-trails might be the newer better version, or Cooper might be holding a little back for their own name brand. All in all, it's going to be City driving. neither Tire would be fine. Appreciate it if you made it this far.
I think the reason they are not as aggressive as compared to the picture, you do not have the LT's. The LT version have bigger and deeper tread along with more aggressive side walls.
The Motomaster X-Trail AT are excellent tires. I put them on my 2017 Chevy Silverado as a replacement for the Goodyear Wranglers. I regularly pull a 16’ trailer and drive in many back country roads with uneven surfaces. I’m completely satisfied with these USA made tires
I have a set of Faulken Wildpeaks on my Titan. 265/75/17. Amazing tires good on-road and off-road manners. Very confident in the snow and on trails. Not very good traction in the rain. Also my tires have 45k miles and they still look like they are brand new.
I've been window shopping for AT tires recently. These tires have the best siping for our icy roads, than anything else I can find. I've had the AT2's and AT3's and unbelievable long life out of them .
@@TitanTown Ya, can't beat the price. My only nit-pick about them is I don't like the looks of them. But in this economy, beggers can't be choosers lol.
@@chadolive1 Yes, the Motomaster at2 & at3 made by Cooper. They were no good for a winter tire though. I'm confident the new x-trails would be good in winter if you have 4wd, AWD or traction control. Lots of sipes for an a.t. tire . I ended up getting the Goodyear Duratrac from Canadian Tire, they were on sale, and they had no X-trails my size, in stock.
Hey thanks one more question, they have in both brands SUV truck and SUV light truck, what is the difference other than a light truck tire sounds tougher and better, same price for both...? also not just the AT3, but the AT3 4s... same questions as before...thanks for getting back so quick they are low on stock, so I again appreciate your time.
I had ko2 and was not good on snow and rain , I had atturo mt tires and believe or not was good really good but noisier , now I have Toyo open country RT
Sorry for the repetition, just headed to Canadian Tire right now was there last night, but going back to make a deposit on both tires, until I can come to decision at my appointment in 2 weeks. Having a tough time choosing tires. The Cooper AT3 4S's, or the Mortormaster X Trail Eliminators. I have seen them both with rebates on the coopers the price is 4 dollars different right now. The x tail looks like a tire cooper has called the discoverer rugged trek that i see online but if you look almost the same. When I press down on both tires( tire by themself 2 hands) the x trail is very stable makes me think once a rim and air are in there it would be more solid, or not. But the softness or flex could be better for when the temp drops, providing more grip. etc. The cooper did at3 4s and had more flex but I imagine that is just a difference in the compound or tread direction, but the plys are the same🤔...anyways the x trails felt stickier a bit lil more than the Cooper at3 4s, but only a little more....siping both were good 👍 tread patterns were different but the siping on the coopers from yrs in the past window shopping, I know they go all the way down and know the performance on snow and ice are good something to consider. Even though both tires in ratings are almost identical the x-trails are 100% On Ice'96 on snow, Coopers are 100% on snow 96 or 96 on ice, they're both all weather all terrains and have the three Peak Mountain snowflakes and like I said the motor Masters X trails are made by Cooper. If you go check out Cooper's rugged Trek discoverer, I don't know how old they are, not considering those at all, just something I noticed and thought was interesting. So other than both of them being weather rated and made by Cooper it's tuff. I mention don't 't know if this makes sense or a difference, but pressing down on both of them just standing up, and one had a little bit more Flex than the other Lil easier to push down, that was the Cooper at34s, the x-trail being a little harder depressed down, which appealed to me because my passenger snow tires I had last year, sidewall bulged out the side didn't like at all soft didn't' give that stability you have from an A/T tire which also can take bumps and hard terrains like packed ice in the back alleys and side roads, and not be rattled. It was not a good experience, I have had all terrains the entire time owning this vehicle(2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.3l awd, which is why I am going with snow-rated A/T. Maybe that is one reason to go for the Motormasters, though I don't imagine I would have much of a problem even though these are passenger tires A/Ts with a stronger compound. Stiffer might not be the best either because I was told the light truck tires weren't recommended for my vehicle because would be harder on the suspension, I figured this could be true with the x-trail even though it's designed for the size of the vehicle, but I would rather have the security and stability than a flimsy tire that bulge, I would take that chance, plus the plys are the same as I mentioned. All in all, they're both about the same and they're both made by Cooper, they both have the snowflake, and both have been tested in the severe Canadian weather that we get in this region. Other than the motor master x-trail eliminators being newer and a little more sticky than the Discover a t 3 4, and a little stiffer to push down, I'm at a stalemate. The siping direction and tread pattern are different but seem really good. The pattern of the Cooper is more forward directional, which for stopping and starting might grip better, but the multi-direction of the Motormaster's might help in sliding sideways to recapture and regrip, who knows? I know the Cooper AT3 4S are definitely good performers around the globe and have had time because they have been around longer. I have to make a decision in a couple of weeks for my appointment to get them on, but I am going down to Canadian Tire now to put a deposit on both, till I decide. . If somebody could help me I appreciate it, and let me know about the push test that might not nothing to do with anything, and also look at the Cooper rugged Trek I'm not buying or looking at, but they look similar tread wise sidewall-wise to the motor Master Eliminator X trails. I've studied and watched and seen the performance online of the AT3 discoverers so I know they are good, but those have been out for 4 years already, and the x-trails might be the newer better version, or Cooper might be holding a little back for their own name brand. All in all, it's going to be City driving. neither Tire would be fine. Appreciate it if you made it this far.
Thats true. they may lose traction. The siping on the BGGs go all the way to the bottom of the tread block. The siping on my new Predator tires only goes about 1/3 of the way down into the tread.
Not needing mine much for the mud at all really, are the x trails better because they are newer, the ice rating is better than the at3 4s cooper has and it's not by much, but city driving pretty much, back roads are a nightmare, the trails looker bigger and rougher, but I've seen the at3 4s's in a lot of online footage and they don't look like they disappoint...any info would be great...
Both of these tires has been better overall than many other tires i've run. I've never ran coopers but you can't beat the price of the X Trails if they are on your list.
thanks for your reply appreciated it. Cooper designed and made these for Canadian Tire. 633 for them now, and 707 for the Coopers, Coopers come with a rebate of 70 bucks, so the price difference is 4 dollars lol. One question both of these tires in the store standing up...pushing on the xTrail was very sturdy, Cooper too, but they were the softer or the one that went down with a push easiest, does that matter? What I mean to ask is will a stiffer tire be a bit better in tire wear as well. Appreciate your time to respond and make the video...
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Having a tough time choosing tires. The Cooper AT3 4S's, or the Mortormaster X Trail Eliminators. I have seen them both with rebates on the coopers the price is 4 dollars different right now. The x tail looks like a tire cooper has called the discoverer rugged trek that i see online but if you look almost the same. When I press down on both tires( tire by themself 2 hands) the x trail is very stable makes me think once a rim and air are in there it would be more solid, or not. But the softness or flex could be better for when the temp drops, providing more grip. etc. The cooper did at3 4s and had more flex but I imagine that is just a difference in the compound or tread direction, but the plys are the same🤔...anyways the x trails felt stickier a bit lil more than the Cooper at3 4s, but only a little more....siping both were good 👍 tread patterns were different but the siping on the coopers from yrs in the past window shopping, I know they go all the way down and know the performance on snow and ice are good something to consider. Even though both tires in ratings are almost identical the x-trails are 100% On Ice'96 on snow, Coopers are 100% on snow 96 or 96 on ice, they're both all weather all terrains and have the three Peak Mountain snowflakes and like I said the motor Masters X trails are made by Cooper. If you go check out Cooper's rugged Trek discoverer, I don't know how old they are, not considering those at all, just something I noticed and thought was interesting. So other than both of them being weather rated and made by Cooper it's tuff. I mention don't 't know if this makes sense or a difference, but pressing down on both of them just standing up, and one had a little bit more Flex than the other Lil easier to push down, that was the Cooper at34s, the x-trail being a little harder depressed down, which appealed to me because my passenger snow tires I had last year, sidewall bulged out the side didn't like at all soft didn't' give that stability you have from an A/T tire which also can take bumps and hard terrains like packed ice in the back alleys and side roads, and not be rattled. It was not a good experience, I have had all terrains the entire time owning this vehicle(2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.3l awd, which is why I am going with snow-rated A/T. Maybe that is one reason to go for the Motormasters, though I don't imagine I would have much of a problem even though these are passenger tires A/Ts with a stronger compound. Stiffer might not be the best either because I was told the light truck tires weren't recommended for my vehicle because would be harder on the suspension, I figured this could be true with the x-trail even though it's designed for the size of the vehicle, but I would rather have the security and stability than a flimsy tire that bulge, I would take that chance, plus the plys are the same as I mentioned. All in all, they're both about the same and they're both made by Cooper, they both have the snowflake, and both have been tested in the severe Canadian weather that we get in this region. Other than the motor master x-trail eliminators being newer and a little more sticky than the Discover a t 3 4, and a little stiffer to push down, I'm at a stalemate. The siping direction and tread pattern are different but seem really good. The pattern of the Cooper is more forward directional, which for stopping and starting might grip better, but the multi-direction of the Motormaster's might help in sliding sideways to recapture and regrip, who knows? I know the Cooper AT3 4S are definitely good performers around the globe and have had time because they have been around longer. I have to make a decision in a couple of weeks for my appointment to get them on, but I am going down to Canadian Tire now to put a deposit on both, till I decide. . If somebody could help me I appreciate it, and let me know about the push test that might not nothing to do with anything, and also look at the Cooper rugged Trek I'm not buying or looking at, but they look similar tread wise sidewall-wise to the motor Master Eliminator X trails. I've studied and watched and seen the performance online of the AT3 discoverers so I know they are good, but those have been out for 4 years already, and the x-trails might be the newer better version, or Cooper might be holding a little back for their own name brand. All in all, it's going to be City driving. neither Tire would be fine. Appreciate it if you made it this far.
I think the reason they are not as aggressive as compared to the picture, you do not have the LT's. The LT version have bigger and deeper tread along with more aggressive side walls.
Interesting. You might be right. I was pretty sure I was getting LTs but they don't say LT on them anywhere.
@@TitanTown Just purchased a set of LT275 55R20. Yours will be just Passenger rating not for Light Truck.
The Motomaster X-Trail AT are excellent tires. I put them on my 2017 Chevy Silverado as a replacement for the Goodyear Wranglers. I regularly pull a 16’ trailer and drive in many back country roads with uneven surfaces. I’m completely satisfied with these USA made tires
Thanks for your input.
I have a set of Faulken Wildpeaks on my Titan. 265/75/17. Amazing tires good on-road and off-road manners. Very confident in the snow and on trails. Not very good traction in the rain. Also my tires have 45k miles and they still look like they are brand new.
I'm eyeing the Falken Widpeaks for my next set. I like the 305 65 18 size.
I've been window shopping for AT tires recently. These tires have the best siping for our icy roads, than anything else I can find. I've had the AT2's and AT3's and unbelievable long life out of them .
They are an excellent tire and at a good price.
@@TitanTown Ya, can't beat the price. My only nit-pick about them is I don't like the looks of them. But in this economy, beggers can't be choosers lol.
@@TheBeatenPaths I'm not a fan of the sidewalls but the tread pattern doesn't look bad.
@@chadolive1 Yes, the Motomaster at2 & at3 made by Cooper. They were no good for a winter tire though. I'm confident the new x-trails would be good in winter if you have 4wd, AWD or traction control. Lots of sipes for an a.t. tire .
I ended up getting the Goodyear Duratrac from Canadian Tire, they were on sale, and they had no X-trails my size, in stock.
Hey thanks one more question, they have in both brands SUV truck and SUV light truck, what is the difference other than a light truck tire sounds tougher and better, same price for both...? also not just the AT3, but the AT3 4s... same questions as before...thanks for getting back so quick they are low on stock, so I again appreciate your time.
I had ko2 and was not good on snow and rain , I had atturo mt tires and believe or not was good really good but noisier , now I have Toyo open country RT
I want to try Falken Wildpeaks next
@@TitanTown that one is really good
Sorry for the repetition, just headed to Canadian Tire right now was there last night, but going back to make a deposit on both tires, until I can come to decision at my appointment in 2 weeks.
Having a tough time choosing tires. The Cooper AT3 4S's, or the Mortormaster X Trail Eliminators. I have seen them both with rebates on the coopers the price is 4 dollars different right now. The x tail looks like a tire cooper has called the discoverer rugged trek that i see online but if you look almost the same. When I press down on both tires( tire by themself 2 hands) the x trail is very stable makes me think once a rim and air are in there it would be more solid, or not. But the softness or flex could be better for when the temp drops, providing more grip. etc. The cooper did at3 4s and had more flex but I imagine that is just a difference in the compound or tread direction, but the plys are the same🤔...anyways the x trails felt stickier a bit lil more than the Cooper at3 4s, but only a little more....siping both were good 👍 tread patterns were different but the siping on the coopers from yrs in the past window shopping, I know they go all the way down and know the performance on snow and ice are good something to consider. Even though both tires in ratings are almost identical the x-trails are 100% On Ice'96 on snow, Coopers are 100% on snow 96 or 96 on ice, they're both all weather all terrains and have the three Peak Mountain snowflakes and like I said the motor Masters X trails are made by Cooper. If you go check out Cooper's rugged Trek discoverer, I don't know how old they are, not considering those at all, just something I noticed and thought was interesting. So other than both of them being weather rated and made by Cooper it's tuff. I mention don't 't know if this makes sense or a difference, but pressing down on both of them just standing up, and one had a little bit more Flex than the other Lil easier to push down, that was the Cooper at34s, the x-trail being a little harder depressed down, which appealed to me because my passenger snow tires I had last year, sidewall bulged out the side didn't like at all soft didn't' give that stability you have from an A/T tire which also can take bumps and hard terrains like packed ice in the back alleys and side roads, and not be rattled. It was not a good experience, I have had all terrains the entire time owning this vehicle(2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.3l awd, which is why I am going with snow-rated A/T. Maybe that is one reason to go for the Motormasters, though I don't imagine I would have much of a problem even though these are passenger tires A/Ts with a stronger compound. Stiffer might not be the best either because I was told the light truck tires weren't recommended for my vehicle because would be harder on the suspension, I figured this could be true with the x-trail even though it's designed for the size of the vehicle, but I would rather have the security and stability than a flimsy tire that bulge, I would take that chance, plus the plys are the same as I mentioned. All in all, they're both about the same and they're both made by Cooper, they both have the snowflake, and both have been tested in the severe Canadian weather that we get in this region. Other than the motor master x-trail eliminators being newer and a little more sticky than the Discover a t 3 4, and a little stiffer to push down, I'm at a stalemate. The siping direction and tread pattern are different but seem really good. The pattern of the Cooper is more forward directional, which for stopping and starting might grip better, but the multi-direction of the Motormaster's might help in sliding sideways to recapture and regrip, who knows? I know the Cooper AT3 4S are definitely good performers around the globe and have had time because they have been around longer. I have to make a decision in a couple of weeks for my appointment to get them on, but I am going down to Canadian Tire now to put a deposit on both, till I decide. . If somebody could help me I appreciate it, and let me know about the push test that might not nothing to do with anything, and also look at the Cooper rugged Trek I'm not buying or looking at, but they look similar tread wise sidewall-wise to the motor Master Eliminator X trails. I've studied and watched and seen the performance online of the AT3 discoverers so I know they are good, but those have been out for 4 years already, and the x-trails might be the newer better version, or Cooper might be holding a little back for their own name brand. All in all, it's going to be City driving. neither Tire would be fine. Appreciate it if you made it this far.
Both are pretty similar I don't think you would go wrong with either.
I just can't get over their names. Sounds like a booster pack.
LOL. Not a bad tire but i probably wouldn't buy them again.
I like them....but my only concern is the siping doesn't go to far into the rubber
Thats true. they may lose traction. The siping on the BGGs go all the way to the bottom of the tread block. The siping on my new Predator tires only goes about 1/3 of the way down into the tread.
Not needing mine much for the mud at all really, are the x trails better because they are newer, the ice rating is better than the at3 4s cooper has and it's not by much, but city driving pretty much, back roads are a nightmare, the trails looker bigger and rougher, but I've seen the at3 4s's in a lot of online footage and they don't look like they disappoint...any info would be great...
Both of these tires has been better overall than many other tires i've run. I've never ran coopers but you can't beat the price of the X Trails if they are on your list.
thanks for your reply appreciated it. Cooper designed and made these for Canadian Tire. 633 for them now, and 707 for the Coopers, Coopers come with a rebate of 70 bucks, so the price difference is 4 dollars lol. One question both of these tires in the store standing up...pushing on the xTrail was very sturdy, Cooper too, but they were the softer or the one that went down with a push easiest, does that matter? What I mean to ask is will a stiffer tire be a bit better in tire wear as well. Appreciate your time to respond and make the video...
i run xtrails they are great tire all round ,canadian tire backs them so they are motomaster get over it.
I wouldn't buy them again.
In other words, its asphalt bias
Pretty much.