I've had motomaster AT 2's and AT 3's' and loved them. I'm going to buy a set of these this Fall. You should see a much bigger improvement in icy winter driving with these, as all that siping is for ice traction.
Yes I live in Barrie Ontario and we've had some snow here already this year. The Motomasters beat the k02s. The tread blocks are thicker, and the siping is great in snow. I hardly ever need 4wd. The k02s were terrible on ice.
A replacement doesn't have to be the same tire. Have run mismatched pairs for decades, or run three of one and one of another a few times too. So that's not an advantage. Talk to veteran car guys..many have run four different tires on their cars or SUV's when money was really tight...there's no big deal difference to be worried about but tire companies will always try to push the fear agenda that you better buy their same tire or doomsday happens....except they're lying...shocking that they'd lie to make a profit.
35/12.5/17s Grabber AT/x and Dirty Life Mayhem rims. Been really reliable so far. Not great in deep snow, but everything else they have been outstanding. We were just in CT looking at new tires for the wife's new JK. We saw these compared to Duratracs and I will be watching for an update. Safe travels in BC. Lots of high alpine snow still and mosquitos.
I have BFG AT (KO2) on my Aussie FJ - around 80,000km and still reasonable amount of tread - my next ones will be mud terrain, mainly because I’d like to compare the two
Where were the off-roading footage shot? I see you're around the Newmarket area. I'm in the GTA and have an Outback with some Toyo Open Country 3s. Nothing too tough but I'd love to try out some of those trails myself.
I can’t trust what you say because you got free tires ! If you didn’t give a good review you would not get anymore free stuff from Canadian tire. I’m going to find a review from someone that actually paid for the own tires ! It’s easy to give a review on Free tires !
I got the 285 copper SST pro mud tires on my FJ. swear they will crawl up a glass wall. Things my all terrains could not do in 4x4 low, they do without spinning in just rear wheel drive. pushing 50,000 km, and still hanging in there. They are an E rated tire so harder rubber, balance like crap, but man do they dig. they also have a built in crease to air down. excellent on snow and ice as they have sips in the lugs, and strange little indented teath keeps the mud from packing in.
Sorry I don't have any comments on the tires but I do have a question regarding your videography...did you train yourself or you went to school for it.
I didn't go to school for it, I've always just played around with video since I was a kid, and recently decided to train myself through trial/error and TH-cam. Movies and documentaries also play a huge part for inspiration!
Thanks! I have a lift of 1.5 to 2", and i did have to do a body mount chop to fit them. Without a lift and without body mount chop, you're probably going to get some slight rubbing at full lock with 33" tires
@@GhostlyGhille I will say if you have the best version of the FJ with the manual you get full time 4WD and the gearing works better for bigger tires from the factory and you get a lower 1st gear for off roading. I wish all FJ’s were manual like Honda did with the S2000
Interesting. Hope you can do another review after 6months.I run Patagonia MT 33" and was looking to go AT 35" soon. Would be great that Canadian Tire offers special discounts for your followers!
@@stokedtour Finally bought other brand. CanadianTire were rude and unhelpful.. Strange usually not the case. I was finally told they are not available 8n 33 or 35".
Wait, so did you adjust the speedometer/odometer to accommodate the tire size difference? Or was your gas efficiency calculation already taken into consideration of the larger tires? I am running KO2s, nothing special there, but I LOVE my bronze TRD wheels found on the 2013 TT edition.
Oooo those are nice wheels 👍 And yeah I added an adjustment factor due to the speedo and odo showing lower values than actual with the larger tires. I've noticed the same kind of thing last year when I was running the BFG KM3 33's - the difference was too close to notice, but I also drive like a grandma on the road, so maybe if you are harder on the gas pedal, the differences will be more apparent
Hello, Seriously thinking about these tires for my 2022 F-150, just wondering your thoughts now that you had them a while ? As crazy as it sounds it’s going to be these in a LT or KO2s. Regards Mark
I'm going to grab a set of these for my 2022 Sierra I think. Leveled and some 285/60r20 is exactly what I'm looking for and ability to do interest free financing on my CT card is dope to. Had 33x12.5 with a couple inches of poke for a while but the rubbing and mileage made me want to move away from that style. Also these tires are crazy lightweight which you can't find in E rated larger tire sizes like you can with these. There's only a few select brands in select tires that offer this. This tire in the size I said is almost 20lbs lighter than a KO2. That's HUGE for power delivery and gas mileage. Not to mention KO2s have a super annoying sound that I can't stand. It's just the pitch of the sound vs most other tires. I'd honestly rather have a mud terrain lol.
Boy that wheel (rim) is gonna get destroyed with that offset you got there .. the old rims are way more protective offroad .. the ribs are sticking way to far out..
Just picked up a set of LT275/55R20 for my tundra. The KO2's, Toyo OC, and Falken Wilpeaks are all 460 to 480 per tire. Picked these up with a 10% discount for 259 per tire. Honestly they are almost identical to the Open country AT3's so they should be awesome.
Hi, Where is the follow up review for these tires in snow and offroad? I searched your channel but didn't find the video. Would you be able to send me the link to the second part of the test? Thanks
Those tires and wheels look badass. I treated myself to some Toyo AT3s... 285/70/17 on mine last year and I love them. I went with Toyo because they are a little softer rubber and They were pretty good in the snow last winter. Not as good as a designated snow tire but they did good. Cheers my friend.
Still like them after 10 months? Always though CT tires were crap but you make me wonder... Was thinking about getting Grabber ATX, but reconsidering...
How did you find the Motomasters on Ice? I have the Yokohama G051 and found the Ice grip horrible but it seems to be the same case for all 3 peak tires I have read up on.. For _everything_ else the they were great - But sneaking up 70,000 km it is time to look at replacing them but tire prices have gone crazy and I am looking at Khumo and the Motomaster
I don’t know about the Khumos, but I will say I have had no problems so far with the Motomaster XTrails. Been really impressed with them! I’ll have a full review of them in a few weeks hopefully 👍🏼
I picked up some of these now that my k02s are worn down. Got them for 900.00 installed. The k02s got hard , loud and they lost the snow traction after 50% tread hopefully the Motomasters will be good I have a Chevy Colorado.
@stokedtour yea side wall tread is not the same as what you got This link would say what I'm trying to say I got the same tires as this guy th-cam.com/video/yApEpdaUq3M/w-d-xo.html&si=-Gu0_zwKLb_Bp41B P.s love your channel BTW ❤️ ♥️
Fuel consumption just naturally drops a little bit with bigger tires, and is more noticeable with in-city driving. With only highway driving, I can’t tell the difference.
I just run the recommended PSI for the tires (30-33 PSI I think...it's labelled on the door frame)...sometimes I go a bit higher, but it all depends on personal preference and safety
the New Motomaster Eliminator Do Look Really Tough....Egressive..& Capable! ...Enjoy your Adventures Stoked!! Cheers Stealth Civic ( currently On the Sideline ).
@@stokedtour i'm fortunate..to 'borrow' my Mom's Honda CRV! ...to Commute to 'work'. ..but for occasional 'Weekend-driving'..i have an '87 Porsche 944...& a '99 E55 AMG as well. Be SAFE..Stay Healthy ( 'Samson' ). ..On your Travels! 'We Fans Await Your next Video! Cheers..Robert..🙂
Currently running 265/75/16 Cooper Discoverer AT3s. I was looking to get Falken Wildpeaks but the price difference was too much to justify. What lift do you have for 33" and did you need to do a BMC?
So I have a 1.5-2" lift in the front and I did need to do a BMC to clear the 33" tires. I remember doing my research into this and people have gotten away with not doing a BMC, but they just get rubbing at full lock both sides. The BMC was pretty easy to do though! It's funny because I was going to cover that in this video, but it was going to make it too long. Maybe I'll cover it in a Short or something
@@stokedtour 37” is older style now a day, compare to folks having a gladiators, they’re run 38”+40’s but dose need to re-gears, I run 37”s with stock 4.1 ratios for now tho….
Trying my best to get one out soon! Hoping within the next two weeks...have to first clear off a bunch of other work first...then I can focus on it. Appreciate the message man 🙏
What wheels and tires are you currently running? Would you try these motomaster eliminator x-trials out? Let me know below!
Stock 16” TRD wheels -Yokohama Geolandar g003 MT 305/70R16
KENDA KLEVER R/Ts 35x12.50r17 on 17in Method MR316s in Titanium Gloss. 2008 Toyota Tundra 4x4
Loving the falken wild peaks!
Currently Cooper AT3s
Pick up my set of Motomaster X tomorrow.
Check in again in a few weeks
I've had motomaster AT 2's and AT 3's' and loved them. I'm going to buy a set of these this Fall. You should see a much bigger improvement in icy winter driving with these, as all that siping is for ice traction.
Yes I live in Barrie Ontario and we've had some snow here already this year. The Motomasters beat the k02s. The tread blocks are thicker, and the siping is great in snow. I hardly ever need 4wd.
The k02s were terrible on ice.
@@leadnsteel1428 I got a price on Goodyear Duratracs I couldn't pass up. I'm heading into my first Canadian winter with a '19 Ranger. Fingers crossed.
KO2 may not be the best. But you can buy a replacement anywhere in the world. That's their advantage.
A replacement doesn't have to be the same tire. Have run mismatched pairs for decades, or run three of one and one of another a few times too. So that's not an advantage. Talk to veteran car guys..many have run four different tires on their cars or SUV's when money was really tight...there's no big deal difference to be worried about but tire companies will always try to push the fear agenda that you better buy their same tire or doomsday happens....except they're lying...shocking that they'd lie to make a profit.
Would love to see the follow up. I'm pretty keen on these tires if they match up to some of the big names like the KO2s.
Same! Still waiting for it to properly snow haha
We need these tires in the States 🙏🏽
35/12.5/17s Grabber AT/x and Dirty Life Mayhem rims. Been really reliable so far. Not great in deep snow, but everything else they have been outstanding. We were just in CT looking at new tires for the wife's new JK. We saw these compared to Duratracs and I will be watching for an update. Safe travels in BC. Lots of high alpine snow still and mosquitos.
So how are they now? I don’t like the sidewalls or the lettering. But. If they’re good that’s amazing
They’ve held up for me! I have a 1-year review video here: th-cam.com/video/QrxtIVTEbhU/w-d-xo.html
Hope it helps!
How did they end up running in the snow over the K02’s?? Are they worth saving a bit of cash.
The snow performance is very similar. I have another video coming out doing an overview of the X-Trails after 1 year of use - be on the lookout!
What wheels did you have before?
I have BFG AT (KO2) on my Aussie FJ - around 80,000km and still reasonable amount of tread - my next ones will be mud terrain, mainly because I’d like to compare the two
Yeah the KO2's have such a long life, I was super surprised. What MT tires have you got your eyes on?
@@stokedtour BFG again -- no need to change what has been a wining recipe so far 🙂
@@chrisharris4047 I would try the general grabber x3. I use Yokohama geolander Mt on a jeep and I love them.
i have the KO2's and the KM2's , the BF are unbeatable ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
2nd
Bf Goodrich are better and there are the best tires in the world
You won't be getting 80k from ko2. 60 at best
Where were the off-roading footage shot? I see you're around the Newmarket area. I'm in the GTA and have an Outback with some Toyo Open Country 3s. Nothing too tough but I'd love to try out some of those trails myself.
I can’t trust what you say because you got free tires ! If you didn’t give a good review you would not get anymore free stuff from Canadian tire. I’m going to find a review from someone that actually paid for the own tires ! It’s easy to give a review on Free tires !
285s 👌🏻
How long are you in BC? I have a Toyota crew, we should adventure together ✌🏻
The fuel economy comparison is interesting since the BFG's were smaller tires and usually going up a size hurts economy.
I got the 285 copper SST pro mud tires on my FJ. swear they will crawl up a glass wall. Things my all terrains could not do in 4x4 low, they do without spinning in just rear wheel drive. pushing 50,000 km, and still hanging in there. They are an E rated tire so harder rubber, balance like crap, but man do they dig. they also have a built in crease to air down. excellent on snow and ice as they have sips in the lugs, and strange little indented teath keeps the mud from packing in.
I also have these tires. I have not had them in snow ❄️ yet I was wondering how they preform in the white stuff.
Hello, did you have to body mount chop to fit 33? what is your wheels offset?
Sorry I don't have any comments on the tires but I do have a question regarding your videography...did you train yourself or you went to school for it.
I didn't go to school for it, I've always just played around with video since I was a kid, and recently decided to train myself through trial/error and TH-cam. Movies and documentaries also play a huge part for inspiration!
I’m running 285/70/17 perelli scorpions with original 07 rims.
Too bad these didn't put the cooper name on them. Seems the partnwrship ended with Goodyear on the territory
Ko2 are no longer the benchmark. They're your father's tires
Great video.
Did you have any lift or space doing these 33s or will it work on original?
Thanks! I have a lift of 1.5 to 2", and i did have to do a body mount chop to fit them. Without a lift and without body mount chop, you're probably going to get some slight rubbing at full lock with 33" tires
@@stokedtour OK, you think they would be street/road worthy. I mean only issues off-road or is that still a no no?
When going up in tire size. You NEED to rear gear, your rear axle and front OFS gears. If not you will suffer in gas mileage and Performance
Well you naturally will still take a hit for added unsprung mass. But gearing does play a huge party
For sure - this will be a future project, just need to decide on a tire size to stick with first haha
@@GhostlyGhille I will say if you have the best version of the FJ with the manual you get full time 4WD and the gearing works better for bigger tires from the factory and you get a lower 1st gear for off roading. I wish all FJ’s were manual like Honda did with the S2000
Interesting. Hope you can do another review after 6months.I run Patagonia MT 33" and was looking to go AT 35" soon.
Would be great that Canadian Tire offers special discounts for your followers!
Still waiting for snow before the next review 🥲
@@stokedtour Finally bought other brand. CanadianTire were rude and unhelpful.. Strange usually not the case. I was finally told they are not available 8n 33 or 35".
Hmm…mine is a 33..?
@@stokedtour Strange, both stores were acting like is i was annoying them. Maybe in Quebec no 33" ?
@@realbob6669 hmm, I'm not sure...maybe they just don't have that size in stock? Mine is a 285/70R17 which is a 33" equivalent
My tires are so old I don’t even know what they are! Looks like Canadian tire has some good options, I’ll be checking them out for my next set.
🙌 did you get a tesla yet??
Wait, so did you adjust the speedometer/odometer to accommodate the tire size difference? Or was your gas efficiency calculation already taken into consideration of the larger tires? I am running KO2s, nothing special there, but I LOVE my bronze TRD wheels found on the 2013 TT edition.
Oooo those are nice wheels 👍 And yeah I added an adjustment factor due to the speedo and odo showing lower values than actual with the larger tires. I've noticed the same kind of thing last year when I was running the BFG KM3 33's - the difference was too close to notice, but I also drive like a grandma on the road, so maybe if you are harder on the gas pedal, the differences will be more apparent
1:35 265 hehehe you're reading upside down
Hello,
Seriously thinking about these tires for my 2022 F-150, just wondering your thoughts now that you had them a while ? As crazy as it sounds it’s going to be these in a LT or KO2s.
Regards
Mark
I'm putting them on my 19 F150 next week, 275 55r 20.I'm going with P rated in XL version
Much more cost effective than Ko2s and just as good from what I hear,we'll see
@@jasonbrushett2005 just picked up a set last week, hard to beat the sale. I really love the look of them, yet to install. Thanks for the comments.
@backcountrypipe yes I took advantage of the sale as well,mine go on next Thursday!
tbh the tires look like they will do well with snow and ice. would really like to try the cooper rugged maybe the mickey thompson baja boss
I hope so!
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whats the name of those rims? size? love the look
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How did these tires hold up? And any good in the snow.. thanks
They’re good! I have a 1 year review video coming out in a few weeks so keep an eye out!
I am running the Cooper Discovery STT PRO’s in a 285/70/17 on Black TRD Sema wheels. 👍🏻
I'm going to grab a set of these for my 2022 Sierra I think. Leveled and some 285/60r20 is exactly what I'm looking for and ability to do interest free financing on my CT card is dope to. Had 33x12.5 with a couple inches of poke for a while but the rubbing and mileage made me want to move away from that style. Also these tires are crazy lightweight which you can't find in E rated larger tire sizes like you can with these. There's only a few select brands in select tires that offer this. This tire in the size I said is almost 20lbs lighter than a KO2. That's HUGE for power delivery and gas mileage. Not to mention KO2s have a super annoying sound that I can't stand. It's just the pitch of the sound vs most other tires. I'd honestly rather have a mud terrain lol.
Boy that wheel (rim) is gonna get destroyed with that offset you got there .. the old rims are way more protective offroad .. the ribs are sticking way to far out..
295x70x17 Toyo M/T
Yokohama 265/70/17 LT works well in both street and desert off road
Standard wheels
I have the stock 2010 fj rims and I'm running the same size 285/70/17 ko2, just got them last month.
Been using this motomaster eliminator x-trail for 2 years on my 2005 ford escape 4wd. Performed well in calgary weather.
Just picked up a set of LT275/55R20 for my tundra. The KO2's, Toyo OC, and Falken Wilpeaks are all 460 to 480 per tire. Picked these up with a 10% discount for 259 per tire. Honestly they are almost identical to the Open country AT3's so they should be awesome.
Hi, Where is the follow up review for these tires in snow and offroad? I searched your channel but didn't find the video. Would you be able to send me the link to the second part of the test? Thanks
Video will be out in a few weeks!
Holy crap am I glad I came across this channel. Dude’s pretty thorough and shows you as well as tells you.
Those tires and wheels look badass. I treated myself to some Toyo AT3s... 285/70/17 on mine last year and I love them. I went with Toyo because they are a little softer rubber and They were pretty good in the snow last winter. Not as good as a designated snow tire but they did good. Cheers my friend.
Why not just get the Cooper? If they are a sub brand. They have a close to the same price much for aggressive, plus 60k mile life.
Well I mean, they are Cooper tires...just without the word Cooper on the tire. And these also have 60k mile life...✌
Still like them after 10 months? Always though CT tires were crap but you make me wonder... Was thinking about getting Grabber ATX, but reconsidering...
Yup! They have not let me down so far. A 1 year review is coming out soon so stay tuned!
How did you find the Motomasters on Ice? I have the Yokohama G051 and found the Ice grip horrible but it seems to be the same case for all 3 peak tires I have read up on.. For _everything_ else the they were great - But sneaking up 70,000 km it is time to look at replacing them but tire prices have gone crazy and I am looking at Khumo and the Motomaster
I don’t know about the Khumos, but I will say I have had no problems so far with the Motomaster XTrails. Been really impressed with them! I’ll have a full review of them in a few weeks hopefully 👍🏼
What wheels are those? Love the look
Envy Wheels!
I picked up some of these now that my k02s are worn down. Got them for 900.00 installed.
The k02s got hard , loud and they lost the snow traction after 50% tread hopefully the Motomasters will be good I have a Chevy Colorado.
I found this with my KO2's as well. Fingers crossed for them in the snow too as I'm waiting for the snow to test them out! 900 installed is 👌
I bought this and the side wall tread wasn't as aggressive as what was shown in this video
umm...are you sure you bought the same tire? 😅
@@stokedtour I did, I told the sales rep that I need this tire
@stokedtour I also saw a guy on TH-cam who got the same issue
the issue being that the sidewall tread doesn't look the same??
@stokedtour yea side wall tread is not the same as what you got
This link would say what I'm trying to say I got the same tires as this guy
th-cam.com/video/yApEpdaUq3M/w-d-xo.html&si=-Gu0_zwKLb_Bp41B
P.s love your channel BTW ❤️ ♥️
If I can ask, i am using my Fj as the only vehicle I have,
How is the fuel consumption in these bigger tires ????
Fuel consumption just naturally drops a little bit with bigger tires, and is more noticeable with in-city driving. With only highway driving, I can’t tell the difference.
Even Hass 😅 lmfao
Crappy tire to the rescue! Thanks for the review
Super cool Video! Le Questionnn… what psi do you think is right for a 285 70 R17?
I just run the recommended PSI for the tires (30-33 PSI I think...it's labelled on the door frame)...sometimes I go a bit higher, but it all depends on personal preference and safety
the New Motomaster Eliminator Do Look Really Tough....Egressive..& Capable! ...Enjoy your Adventures Stoked!! Cheers Stealth Civic ( currently On the Sideline ).
thanks Robert! What you driving now??
@@stokedtour i'm fortunate..to 'borrow' my Mom's Honda CRV! ...to Commute to 'work'. ..but for occasional 'Weekend-driving'..i have an '87 Porsche 944...& a '99 E55 AMG as well. Be SAFE..Stay Healthy ( 'Samson' ). ..On your Travels! 'We Fans Await Your next Video! Cheers..Robert..🙂
They definitely look the part. Looking forward to seeing if they act the part!
Yeah man! Just went out with them this weekend and so far so good!
Awesome video, professionally don e👍How many Kms do you get per litre?
between 11 - 15L/100km, so between 6 to 10 kms 😅
305/55r20 KO2 on my 2014 fj
Currently running 265/75/16 Cooper Discoverer AT3s. I was looking to get Falken Wildpeaks but the price difference was too much to justify. What lift do you have for 33" and did you need to do a BMC?
Wild peaks were a great set of tires 👌
@@GhostlyGhille are they $90 a tire better though?
So I have a 1.5-2" lift in the front and I did need to do a BMC to clear the 33" tires. I remember doing my research into this and people have gotten away with not doing a BMC, but they just get rubbing at full lock both sides. The BMC was pretty easy to do though! It's funny because I was going to cover that in this video, but it was going to make it too long. Maybe I'll cover it in a Short or something
I run Toyo Open Country R/T 37" on my Jeep Gladiator Rubicon tho, your looks awesome dude
oh man, 37's! Must look like a beast!
@@stokedtour 37” is older style now a day, compare to folks having a gladiators, they’re run 38”+40’s but dose need to re-gears, I run 37”s with stock 4.1 ratios for now tho….
But does it taste like tires 🤔
Love these videos! So cool Sam.
Awesome vid.
Sweet tires
I have the same and it increased my MPG!
🙌
I wish these were available in the US! 😩
Right?! I'm sure Canadian Tire could branch out once again..
Miss your videos mate
Trying my best to get one out soon! Hoping within the next two weeks...have to first clear off a bunch of other work first...then I can focus on it. Appreciate the message man 🙏
looks killah.. killah!
Haha thanks!
How are these on snow and ice?
Currently waiting for ice and snow to arrive in Ontario!
Looking at these of the Falken Wildpeak A/T3. Most concern about wet and snow/ice
Check out Truck King on TH-cam, father and son channel, they tested them in winter and performed great!
@@bradbrinker1456 also another guy on TH-cam tested them and gave a great review
Running $400 35s, firestone destination mt2 🥲
Oh man, everyone commenting here has 35's and above haha