Okay as an idiot I’m gonna say how much grip surface is actually on the ground how much grip surface how much of the surface is actually gripping the tarmac on the ground that’s my definition, not tread pattern but give me the grip pattern because the grip on the ground is what we need, so how much grip the tyres havedo they grip the road unforgiving tarmac? How much traction can these tyres get on tarmac?
Absolutely. Choosing an All Season Tire is searching a good compromise. I have chosen to go with Goodyear Vector 4 Season. Their performance is nearly always good. I don't have to worry about grip, even when they were near the winter markings. This channel helped me to choose a tire matching my needs. The test methods match everyday using behavior.
i have a bmw x5 all wheel drive. best rain tire i ever had was quite by accident, dunlap winter sports 235-50-18., directional snow tires. unlreal the handling, was like on dry grounds in pouring rain, made a 6000 lb truck drive like it was on rails ,, i was able to smoothly corner at 45- 50 mph on turns i would only do 35-40 with my scorpion zeros
I'm sticking with CC2's,2nd winter in the north and they have done things in the great white north that have blown my mind. When I need to R&R my tires now ,I'm going back to the CC's. One thing they did, on hard packed snow was, I hit the brakes hard at 50 mph and the car stopped like it was on blacktop. The car stopped straight and the anti locks never activated .there's more ,no time to write a book.
CrossClimate2 if properly taken care of and inflated to correct PSI (check every 2 weeks or monthly), rotation at each 5K or 7.5K Oil Change, you can get more than 60K miles up to 80K miles on them. A couple people (TH-camrs) claim they were able to get 100K miles on CC2. I have had CC2 for 19 months and gone through 2 Northeastern U.S. winter seasons and have not swapped tires/wheels. Why should I ? They are All-Weather and tread wear is minimal, so no need to go Summer "All-Season" to a Winter/Snow tire. CrossClimate2 is a all year round tire. Note: you will lose 2 to 3 MPG "miles per gallon" then some drivers who have bad habits and type of vehicle driven could lose 5 MPG or more (CC2 are not fuel efficient). They are quiet except on snow, smooth handling, excellent control on the road and cornering, braking is reasonable, somewhat comfortable as may depend on your Wheel Size. No tire can be rated a perfect 10. Overall I will give CC2 an 8.2 out of 10. Most other competitive tires vs the Michelin CC2 would receive a 7 to 8. If strictly a Summer Tire you could find a 9. As for a Winter Tire there might be an 8.5 or 8.7 out there. But for overall performance with an all year all weather tire ... CC2 still leads the bunch. You won't be disappointed with CC2. Cost in the U.S.A. average $265 USD per tire for 235/40R19.
You've confirmed my findings. I've always been a Crossclimate driver since they arrived on British shores but Crossclimate 2 changed the dynamics, it was too focused as a snow tyre, slithery in wet conditions, insecure through deep water corners, noticeable block movement through dry fast corners and overall quite noisy. This winter I changed to the Bridgestone and it's everything that the Michelin needed to be, surefooted in the wet, great braking in wet and dry, secure in subzero temperatures and a much lower purchase price; sorry Michelin, the Bridgestone is my new champion of all season tyres!
@@formicone7 In another video with convoy wear testing they stated that both the drivers and the sets of tires were rotated between vehicles. I would assume the same procedure was used here.
@@formicone7 they follow industry practice of rotating leaders (If I recall correctly from one of their earlier videos where they introduced this test).
@@tyrereviews I am very satisfied with them, only thing I noticed is a little bit aquaplaning in deep water puddles, I didnt have a chance to drive them in snow this year and my car is rear wheel drive , so that would be interesting
I also put them on my wifes A Class after she had a scary moment on ice. We’ve been very impressed by the new continentals so much so they’re going on my Tesla when the OEM summer Michelins wear out. She was confident leaving the house in snow the one day it snowed this year but I was sliding sideways down the drive on summer tyres.
Awesome review. My favorite tire used to be the Goodyear Assuarance TripleTreds. Now I love my CrossClimate2's and their longevity is outstanding. For the all-around best tire for my needs and use, the Michelin's are still king to me. Great video as always.
Same, having the crossclimates on my car for 3 years now and they look almost brand new, 2 more years and the savings from not having to change tires will pay for themselves :D
I had cc2 on my rear wheel drive 335d for 60k Kms, phenomenal tires and even with the weight and torque that tire was good in wet and light snow. Plenty of tread left over after 3 yrs.
Hands down the best tire reviewer. Im in need of tires very soon and planned on the Michelin due to your other videos, but its great to see a better value tire perform almost equally well(continental). Cant wait to try them!
Another fantastic, really helpful video. Great to see consideration of residual speed on the cheaper tyres - crashing at 40+ km/hour can be life-changing in all the wrong ways - so important to get that message out
I've had the Michelin Cross Climate 2 for a couple of years now, and I absolutely love them. It's good to see other brands challenging it, because competition is good for consumers, and technology.
@@donaldpiper9763uh oh. Another person incredibly triggered when they hear an opposing opinion on politics. Wonder who made them that way, bet my savings it was extremism from the democrats.
Pirelli looked so good... and then it did what it does on the motorcycle side also: provide a fantastic tire that wears too quickly, and performance degrades quickly in the last quarter of life.
Michelin has been my #1 go to for years. I live in Colorado and the weather is all over the place for most of the year. I started off with the Michelin Primacy tires first that I really liked then the Cross Climate series came out and I haven't bought any other tires. The Cross Climate 2 have been amazing and has earned the top spot for any vehicle that I own. Also, Costco usually have a great deal on Michelin. I am going to buy a new Volvo this December and it comes with the Pirelli Scorpion Verde. Soon as those tires wear out I will be going right back to the Cross Climate 2. Now if only Michelin could actually produce good wiper blades that last like Valeo and Bosch have I'd buy their wiper blades as well.
My cross climate plus tires were finished at 40,000kms. I switched to the Hankook 4s2, and feel that they are amazing in the snow and rain, far better than the cc+ tires. I was going to put the cc2 on, but the Hankook 4s2 was such a great deal, that I couldn't pass them up. An excellent tire and was convinced to try them after the excellent review TR posted. Thank you!!
Have the Hankook as well. Terrible flatspotting from being parked. I haven't got cc or cc2 to compare to, but I have generally not been super impressed by the snow performance.
I'm satisfied with my set. Wet and dry are excellent. For snow, they are great in a straight line both acceleration and braking. They are a bit prone to understeer in snow. I've had to use the handbrake to get enough rotation in tight turns. Fwd Mazda 3.
I bought the Hankooks too - first ever AS tyre for me. Find them way harder ride than the Michelin summer tyres I came from. How are they for firmness compared to other AS tyres for those that have had others - are Michelin CC a better ride comfort wise?
I have driven all-season tires by many manufacturers over the past 40+ years. All of my Michelins worked OK initially , but turned hard and unusable within 20 K miles or so. I have had the best experience with the latest All-Season Continentals, combining performance, grip, and litte wear / long lasting tires..
I know the weatherpeak is a US only tire, but I really want to see it tested against the CC2, especially in the snow. It's a non-directional tire, and it consistently gets very good reviews
Pirelli is having progress year by year. And I like that we got a tire which is very good for summer and acceptable for winter. This is something we lost with the changes of the CrossClimates 2
Bought Continental ASC 2 few months ago, already 5000km and very happy with it. 245/40/19 Thanks @tyrereviews for advising to buy Continental. Keep the good work with the videos!
hi there. It's 8 months later, could you share your findings about the Continental ASC2's in terms of wear, comfort and noise levels, especially in the summer? I live in southern Germany where we only get light snow these years. So I'm also considering getting all-seasons instead of switching between summer and winter tyres every 6 months.
@ all good, 20k km. Never tested on snow yet. Wear is okey, been rotating tyres every 5k km. Noise is ofc not summer tyre level, but very close. Wet traction is very very good, car is stable even in high speeds in autoban. Over all very happy, just need test snow/ice performance.
Had the older contis on a previous car, and they were excellent. Good to see the new ones are even better. Living in Wales, cold, wet weather performance is more important to me than outright snow abilities.
Really content with the Hankook Kinergy 4S, especially in dry and wet breaking! But all clients on the Michelin CrossClimate drove a really decent distance over the 90.000 km, and still have 3+ mm on profile left, that’s making them worthwhile the few extra € in price.
Yeah, a lot depends on the price difference of the Michelin's and the Hankooks for your particular car at the time you want them. Either are a great choice. As are some of the other premium all season tyres.
Excellent review! Last september I bought a set of Bridgestone All Season 6 tyres, it was a bit of a gamble since it was just released. I am really impressed with the wet performance, perfect for Dutch winters. Your review confirms this. I have them mounted on a Z4 3.0si coupe. For summer tyres I have a set of Bridgestone Potenza Sport, they work perfect during the summer giving grip straight away with out the need of warming the tyres also they preform solid on a occasional lap on the Nurburgring.
THANK YOU soooo much for residual speed! This adds something I can reference when making recommendations for those that say 'well that's track driving". Thank you! thank you! I originally missed this upload. Notifications are now actually ON!
A couple of years ago I put a set of Continental Contour Contact tires on my Grand Marquis. (AFAIK, they're exclusive to Discount Tire) Living in western Oregon, we get a lot of rain. Even so, my "discount" Conti's rain performance on my landbarge is excellent. I've got a few roads and intersections where I try to maintain or improve my skill level. They stick like glue regardless of how hard it's raining. When it's snowed, they've only broken loose once that I didn't expect, when I hit an off-camber dip in the road. Other than that, they've been solid in the slick. Of course, with about 750,000 miles in commercial trucks, many of those miles on ice and snow, I don't hurry at all in those conditions. Slow and steady gets me home. Excellent test! Since these are European tires, can we expect an American edition? Keep up the excellent work!
@@yamahass66Most people in the UK use cheap summer tyres in the winter. My car is fitted with Michelin Crossclimate 2s and my partner has Vredestein Quatracs on her car. I'm very happy with both of them 🙂
Same for the Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons I imagine; the priority was testing as many new products as possible against the all-round industry benchmark for reference.
LOVE these tire reviews - Best Format, Best Information, Best Subjective Feedback ! Kudos! I am however quite frustrated that I can find Only the Michelin CC2 in the US! C'mon Pirelli and Continental - Please share these great tires with us Yanks.
Continental has the Extreme Contact DWS 06 in the states that I would have loved to see in this test. I would have really liked to see this tire in this test. It's been my tire of choice for years and performs amazingly in all conditions.
The issue is wear, none of these meet the standard America expects from its tyres. The US CC2 version is different from this as explained in the wear section.
I had Pirelli as OEM on on my 2017 BMW x1 here in Alberta, Canada. First 30,000 km (3 winters) they were pretty nice in winter (5 month snow coverage here), next 30,000 were becoming a bit iffy. Replaced then with another identical set at 60,000 km
@@tyrereviews Not sure about US, but in Canada these tires are like 50% more expensive. Michelin's I see for equivalent of 150 Euros, and 200 Euro tires are quite frequent
@@dmitripogosian5084 This may well be a size issue. The tested tyres are 205/55/R16. This is a very common tyre size in Europe (maybe in Canada as well?) and therefore quite affordable. Over here even a modestly different size like a 215/55/R16 can easily be 50% more expensive than the 205s.
Wow, this is exactly what I have searching for; been on the hunt for 3 or so weeks. Based on what I see here vs what I found on tirerack I think I am going to go with the Pirellis. Those are magnificent tires.
I am really impressed with your testing methodology and the quality of your explanations/information. Midway through I was thinking your test results and impressions would be more valid if you were blinded as to which tire you were testing, and right about that moment in the video you mentioned that's what you do when possible. Later when looking at the expected life of each tire I was surprised that the CC2 would be so low since it is a 60k mile tire, and once again you addressed that with your explanation of the differences between the US and Euro versions. Top quality work, it's definitely appreciated!
@ 5:33 "That must be worth a subscription" Sure thing. Enjoyed this and other tests on your channel massively, even if snow and ice are not really conditions I see here...ever on the Mexican desert.
Not so surprised that Conti are top of the list. I've had a few different winter tyres over the years, Vredestein, Khumo, Radar Dimax, and Conti Winter Contact. And while all were good at winter conditions i think of all of them Conti were top. They had the most difficult of conditions and dealt with it exceptionally well and while loads of other drivers were struggling to get traction in the heavy snow that was thick on the road surface for miles in Alpine Mountains at temps of -19C, my rear wheel drive BMW went up everthing i asked of it without hesitation and no loss of control.
This test feels exactly suited for the uk climate where rain performance outweighs snow tests with the exception of the north of scotland of course. Glad to see pirelli back to their best and finally cc2 knocked off their overhyped overpriced perch in my opinion. Great test.
@@tyrereviews Awesome! Any plans on testing the US versions from these brands? Like Pirelli weatheractive? Or bridgestones all weather tire? Is the CC2 the only tire in this mix available in the US? Great video as usual!
Great update. I have used Bridgestone on my A6 for a number of years. About 15 years ago I bought some cheap tyres, which after 500 miles I changed for a big brand tyres as the performance was so bad.
DUNLOP and YOKOHAMA!! This is simply great! Thank you very much for including them both in a current test. It's great that you read and implemented the comments and wishes from previous videos! There was actually never a proper test of either tire - which especially annoyed me with the Dunlop. I found this one particularly interesting because the Sport All Season is one of the last ones that still has an asymmetrical tire profile. Based on your tests and recommendations over the last 2 years, we now have the CrossClimate2 on 2 everyday cars, but I was curious and bought a set of Dunlops in the fall of '23. But - to be on the safer side - for an older all-wheel drive Audi, as I had already suspected that the performance would be limited on snow due to the profile pattern. I can absolutely confirm your test values. The Dunlop steers very precisely, the wet handling and dry handling are really good, much better than expected! The tire also runs unexpectedly quietly and comfortably (quieter than the Conti summer tires that were previously on the A6). And - as quattro zero traction issues or oversteer tendency. Keep up your great testing! You're the best! 👍
We just had a massive blizzard here in the southern plains (Jan 3rd) and I still have my CC2's that I bought 5 years ago now, though they only have about 15k miles on them. We had ZERO issues getting around with them. The unique problem with this blizzard was the amount of ice that came before the snow, so under all that snow was no traction to be found but a nice thick half inch layer of ice on blacktop. I'm only one of three people in our city that have CC2's and we were probably the only three people not getting stuck anywhere, not even from the pure ice problem. There was an older gentleman that has gone through 3 sets of CC2's and only uses studded when it gets real bad in his state of Michigan that put up a review about the CC2's. He showed the current set he was on, as he is a Lyft driver, that had 75000 miles on them and still had 5/32's of tread left on them. He said they were still gripping great in the snow, but he noticed the water and dry running wasn't as "tight" as they were obviously when newer. But the one thing he did bring up about the CC2's that most people are ignoring and just using their "factory" PSI rating on the door panel, was that you do have to inflate the CC2's slightly higher than the standard PSI rating on the door and he's right. I run mine between 38-40 psi, usually 38 for all four wheels. At 38 psi in the CC2's you get nice even tread wearing, more stable MPG (except in the first 5000 miles of the CC2's because they start at 11/32 or at least the ones for the USA do), and probably the best "grip" you're going to get. I just don't drive as much as I used to, but our 2nd vehicle is in the shop, so my wife has been driving the car and hasn't even felt afraid to drive on this snow and ice compared to her vehicle that just has M+S tires on it that we just leave on there year round. This isn't really an area of the country that you need two sets of tires if you find a good all weather tire like the CrossClimate 2. My price for all 4 tires was around 1400.00 USD for 245/45R19's. This was also when you could only get them through a wholesaler. They're more available now at multiple tire dealers and the cost has come down quite a bit.
Good stuff as always. Agree that wet performance is key, but whats increasingly becoming important to to me for an all season in the UK is how it handles pot holes, not sure how you can test that though. Some of the roads near me feel like an AT is the way to go!
I had no idea these were so disliked! I love these and collect them at the parks I go to and I love the durability of them. They’ve certainly helped me when I got lost. I literally seek these out at gift shops because I find them so handy.
Since everyone agrees that a 4 season tyre is a very much of a compromise on various weather conditions, I think that it would be extremely useful testing them in hot weather as well, as they are much more common around Europe!!
I am running Uniroyal AllSeasonExpert2 on my winter beater in true winter conditions with 25cm snow and ice. And they are completely acceptable. I would recommend all season tires if they are of good make and you are travelling 5-8k km a year.
I used to always use winter tires, but over the last 10-15 years the winters have become much less harsh. 20 years ago the roads were snow covered for a good percent of the winter. Now they are dry 95% of the time. So now I switch my summer wheels/tires to winter skewed all season tires. They work good enough for the limited snow and work better on pavement than winter tires since dry pavement is now the majority of the winter.
Finally a Dunlop in test... I am glad that you tested the Sport All Season in particular, as am thinking about switching to all season tires. I would have liked to see them against Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen3, because I'm trying to decide between these two...
I live on a mountain in CT in the USA where we have snow every winter. Climbing the mountain is highly important or you walk home. AWD is also important or you walk home. When I moved here with FWD cars and snow tires, I could not get home and I would walk about 2 km to get home in the snow (not pleasant). Bought AWD cars and snow tires at first. Then switched the first gen Michelin CrossClimate. Now use the second generation and still don't have problems getting home in the winter. Very interesting to see Pirelli getting close but still not quite as good as the Michelin in the snow which is the priority for me, but some of these others seem to be a viable option now (not Bridgestone). Thank you for doing this detailed analysis - the best I have ever seen!
@@CristianChereji Have not seen it yet. Last winter the worst storm brought us 18 inches in 24 hours, one of the worst in years. I bet you are right at some point but as of 2023 not yet.
Just ordered some of the Continentals to replace the tires that came with my new car last week so I’m very pleased to see they have such a good result in the tests. Looking forward to getting them fitted, very promising. Thank you for your hard work. I based my decision on what I saw on the reviews left on your website, they seemed to be about as good as you could hope to get 👍
AWESOME TESTING AND REPORTING. THANK YOU! AMAZING HOW A VISUAL OF A TIRES SIPES AND DESIGN MAY NOT BE HOW IT PERFORMS IN ALL CONDITIONS. I TOO AM IMPRESSED WITH THE RESULTS OF THE CONTINENTALS ALL AROUND PERFORMANCE. OUGHT TO WORK GREAT ON MY AWD SUV. WITH THE PRICE OF TIRES, ONE WANTS HIS INVESTMENT TO RISE TO ALL OCCASIONS FOR SAFETY AND PERFORMANCE.
Did the same with CC2 with a new car to get the most resell value out of the free set of factory ECO tires that is only good for MPG to gain massive safety, performance and convenience of a set of premium All Season for year round safety use.
@@AA-ih6kt I’m European but you can probably order them online. They were discounted at the shop I bought them from. I’d be very surprised if Continental aren’t selling them in the USA already, after all it’s a huge market. You’re probably best off searching online and ordering them to a tire fitter of your choice. Hope that helps
I actually picked up some CrossClimate 2's for an 07 Civic, after my poor Sonic gave it's last in a collision. It changed the car completely. The feeling of safety and confidence is 100% a thing. And they've already seen a few Utah snowfalls.
Thanks for the review. I am using the cross climate for a year on my Q3 quattro and Tesla AWD long range. The best AS I have ever had, impressed with the snow capability, speed, braking. No complaints from me so far and have done close to 20,000 miles on them.
I have Conti ASC2 on a Cupra Born and they do a good job on usual roads. We had a lot of rain since 3 months and it works fine!! including when I do some small drift with the car, this tires feel safety. On the other hands, the factory tyres (EcoContact) had bad feeling, essentially on wet road
Not quite the same but in North America we have WeatherPeak from Bridgestone (all weather tire and is compared to cc2 a lot on Bridgestone’s website), which was not included in the video.
While not the same tire you tested, I absolutely love my Continental ExtremeContact DWS All Season tires on my (nearing classic age)26+ year old '98 BMW 328i. Never a worry in any condition, and gave admirable performance for a rear-wheel drive, manual transmission car in several inches of snow. Can't speak to ice performance as we rarely see any around here in New Jersey thanks(?) to all the salt on the roads. But it is very comfortable, quiet, great performing in the dry and not too far off in the wet. I've had this car since 2013 and over 100,000mi, and am only on my 2nd set. I will be buying my third set soon. Excellent value tire as well, as you pointed out in your test.
Have the CrossClimate 2 on my car with about 35,000 miles on them; great handling, exceptional grip on all surfaces, mpg went up by 1/2 mpg per mile, tread looks very good and hope to get at least another 45000 miles on them. I used to use Bridgestone tires but they seemed to attract nails; 8 flat tires that destroyed the tires (total replacement) over a period of a couple years. Ran our other car that had Michelins on that same road surface and never had a flat.
Great great video, as always. Happy to see that a new generation of tires are coming, and they beat the CC2 king. I think Continental is an excellent product here, as are all their tires. Cheers.
Hi there. It's 8 months later, I'd like to ask if you could you share your findings about the Continental ASC2's, especially in terms of wear, comfort and noise levels in the summer? I live in southern Germany where we only get light snow in the winter, so I'm also considering getting all-seasons instead of switching between summer and winter tyres every 6 months.
@@dixonkimanifells I put them on the car yesterday. Wear is pretty good, I would say 1mm in 10k km just made a swap front to back to have a even wear. I live in Elsass and the weather is the same.
I'd personally like more info on comfort. You can get objective data using a decibel meter for sound and a vibration gauge over a cattle grid for vibration. I spend vastly more time cruising around doing work and errands than trying to lap a wet racing circuit. Comfort is something that definitely would influence my choice, but the review barely touches it.
still has its strong points though like comfort/low noise, dry handling and high mileage. but overall it's outclassed by the newcomers. I'm just replacing mine with Contis after 3 years and 61.000 km!
Great review as usual, great to see the new generation coming through. Happy to stick to my 16" Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen - 3. We get lots of wet country lanes in Weardale they are great for this.
I have had Crossclimate, ASC, SF2 and Hankook 4S2. One factor that I would really like to see analysed in the reviews is the capacity of the tire to survive hot summers: I have experienced heavy thread destruction at even slow paces in Italian summer (30+ °C), so it would be interesting to see if there are differences in the range of temperature in which they are performing well! I would also be very interested in getting these with a runflat/self sealing technology since most cars nowadays are missing the spare wheel! Thank you for your immense work, it helped me a lot through the years!
Runflat sidewalls are thicker making the tyre heavier and less supple. As a result the ride is harsher. Lots of people regret picking run-flats and swap back to non run-flats next change.
I made with my Crossclimate+, 45.000km in 3 years and they are still good for next 10.000km. Dimensions of tires are 255/35/19. I live on Croatia where summers are wery hot.
CrossClimate2 is my choice and still using them 365 days per year. Had them since December 2022 as gone through 2 U.S. Northeast winters as where I live gets an annual average of 126 inches of snowfall. Still have plenty of tread and expect to last another 4 whole years. I don't have to swap between Summer/ All-Season to Winter/Snow tires as CC2's are All-Weather and all year round tires. However, you do lose 2 to 4 MPG on fuel efficiency sometimes worse MPG depending on terrain, how you drive - aka driver bad habits, and maintaining proper PSI - inflation. Expect to get more life as the CC2 should get you between 60,000 to 80,000 miles before replacing. A couple of TH-camr Video folks have claimed 100k miles on CrossClimate2s. They are relatively quiet, except in snow, handle weather conditions well, and good on the road. Comfort depends on wheel size ... I have 235/40R19 [2023 Toyota Camry XSE V6] and on good surfaced roads they are comfortable, get on choppy and terrible roads I tend to feel all the roads imperfections. Overall, CC2 is a great tire. The OE tires were BridgeStone Turanza EL440's which are 1,000 percent dangerous and unsafe tires as I had them shredded. The Best Top 3 Brand Name tire companies are Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, and worth an honorable mention is Good Year. Stay far away from any Asian/Korean/Japan made tires and that include Mexico.
Been on a CrossClimate 2 for several years now. Nothing you said persuades me to change. i am a ski instructor so need solid snow performance. Drove to Corsica n back this summer - no drama. Came back up through the Italian/Swiss Alps with loads of standing water in an absolute deluge - not a wobble. I’ll stick with Cross Climate 2. Wear has been great too 25k plus miles (2 years now.) Will probably replace this winter hence my interest in your review.
Wish I would've seen this before recently getting some cross climate 2's put on but at least I can still be content with the snow performance. Best tire reviews out there! Keep it up!
A very interesting comparison test. I am a big fan of the CrossClimate 2’s on my wife’s car, so it’s heartening to know so many others are working to complete. Thank you.
Jon absolutely smashes it with these tire reviews. Dude jam packs so much information in these comprehensive tests that you need multiple viewings to absorb it all! I'm gonna have to disagree with Jon on his criticism of Michelin.The CrossClimate2 tires are essentially snow tires that can be driven year-round and that's exactly what buyers want. Michelin should NOT back off their snow performance. The CrossClimate2 are perfect for Pacific Northwest or Rocky Mountain drivers who drive into the mountains every weekend to go skiing and spend the rest of the week commuting on wet roads. We want the best snow tire available to keep us safe in the snow but still competent in town where it's warmer. The cherry on top is that we can keep them mounted on the car all year.
@@tyrereviews I'd counter that it's not like the CC2s magically got worse though. They’re still just as good today in the dry/wet as they were when first introduced. Snow storms are highly variable and potentially far more treacherous than wet pavement that drivers contend with on the daily anyways?
agree 110% am in colorado and its a fantasticcccccccccccccccc tire....most places pricematch..i got the 235/65/17 for 207.59 a tire on pricematch just this week.
I switched to michelin Crossclimate about 5-6 years ago (i think i was also influenced by a clip from this channel). I'm going to switch to summer tires because all season tires seem (very) noisy to me. Last winter we had 2 days with snow so... Congratulations for your work man!
@@borianmAbsolutely! I had the Michelin bofore I bought the Hankook in October 2022. Most importantly the Hankook perform way better in rain while the Michelin tend to understeer frequently.
Stavo per scrivere la stessa cosa. Monto questo tipo di allseason da ormai diversi anni e su 2 auto. I primi furono le Michelin Crossclimate per una Insignia OPC , ne sono rimasto davvero sorpreso soprattutto in estate dove i vecchi allseason arrivavano al limite, mentre questi erano davvero buoni . Lo stesso anno per l'auto più piccola (Ds3) fui costretto a prendere i Continental perché i Michelin erano purtroppo esauriti nella mia misura e devo dire che sono rimasto molto soddisfatto. L'autunno scorso per la Ds3 dopo 4 anni e ca. 35k km (auto che uso per andare al lavoro) ho voluto provare le Hankook , soprattutto per il prezzo più basso rispetto alle Michelin e Conti e durante questo inverno si sono comportate benissimo , anche su neve fresca di 20 cm , adesso aspetto con ansia l'estate..
Holy cow. I didn't think anything would beat the CrossClimate 2. It's good to see the other brands shaking it up! I still have the CC2's I bought when I got my Model Y. Best tires I've ever driven on. I'll have to keep up to date for my next set now that the other brands are back in the competition.
For all us North American viewers, here is my dream comparison test lineup request: Michelin CrossClimate 2 vs. Hankook Kinergy 4S2 vs. Toyo Celsius II vs. Falken Aklimate vs. Bridgestone WeatherActive vs. Pirelli Cinturato/Scorpion Weatheractive vs. Firestone Weathergrip vs. Nokian Remedy WRG5. Any chance we could see something like that in the next year? Your North American viewers want to know. Amazing review once again. Thank you!
@@-JayHenry- Still pretty hard to beat the Michelin. But my most popular tire with the most positive feedback is the Toyo Celsius II. The Falkens are too new for any kind of testing or feedback. The Hankooks seem to be great for traction but I had several complaints about them being very noisy
Have the Michelins on my 2020 Kia Soul GT line. The tires have over 38,000 miles on them and still look great, a lot of tread left and they do perform. I do rotate them every 5K.
Great testing, as always. I hope you can please test some American all-weather tires. I really want to see a comparison between the Michelin CC2 and the Nokian WRG - now WRG5. I also want to see a test with the Falken Aklimate, which is incredibly inexpensive - cheaper than many American all-season tires. Tire Rack is testing the Falken Aklimate, but only against the Toyo Celsius II and Nokian Encompass AW01, but not against the Michelin nor against the Nokian WRG. Thanks again, as always.
I got the continental ASC 2, was a bet since their were no tests. I am very satisfied with them. Good grip in all occasions, they are very silent, fuel consumption was better than the OEM summer tyres. Comfort is quite good, being a conti it is a bit firmer, but also meaning it has good road feedback. On my previous car I had the Michelin CC2 and while on paper they are better, they dissapointed me, in everyday use the conti's are amazing, they actually surprised me
I'm also considering getting the Contis ASC2. Do you live in an area with hot summers, where temps get to 30C for at least 2 months or so? If yes, how does the wear hold up in over the hot summer months?
@@dixonkimaniYes, in Belgium. Summers can reach above 30 degrees Celsius like last summer. Also alot of rain. Very occasionally snow. They performed excellent everywhere. Bought a new car now which standard had the michelin CC2, and I really miss the conti's
Replaced all season Michelin’s with Michelin Cross Country (American version) and really love them for the traction, smoothness, quiet ride, and grip in rain, on Ford Flex AWD, here in California Bay Area. Mostly dry, sometimes Pineapple Express brings tropical downpour where the lane markers disappear on freeways and not possible to distinguish flooded road from just an inch or so of water.
There seems to be a cult-like following for the CrossClimate 2 (and maybe it's well-deserved) but I've pointed out before that your testing showed how it sacrifices wet braking. Good to see it has some competition.
Such important testing, thank you! I live in the US mountain west and wet traction is completely unimportant because my roads are either dry or snow-covered for 16 hours. AllSeasonContact 2 looks impressive as a CrossClimate 2 alternative but not for the sale in the US yet from what I can tell. I can't bring myself to consider Pirelli or Bridgestone based on prior experiences despite your testing. Reputation is a hell of a thing to blow and try to claw back.
not in usa yet correct..its wierd as their promo stuff all said avail end of 2023 and its out in uk...why not here yet? Maybe an issue with the tire/compounds/design here???? I was waiting but ended up with another set of cc3 on the 2 cars i have after 4 yrs on the cc2 and couldnt wait any longer..i needed tires
i simply love these videos so so much. I got the Nokian outpost nat tire and i absolutly love them. I wish i didn't have to say this but they have saved me from two crashes already. Once on straight ice where every single car but mine slipped off the road, and one foolish driver not looking and pulling out infront of me ( I had to swerve into the opposite lane very quickly)
One of the things that sold me on the M crossclimate2 was that it's performance remains quite steady even as it wears, even to the point that it's overall performance is supposedly quite close at the end of it's life compared to the overall performance when new. Is that BS, or not?? THAT is actually more important to me than a tire that puts out great numbers when new, but so-so when worn. I bought these CC2s for my wife's car because I wanted safe tires for her, particularly in the wet, that would perform even as they were worn. Comments?? 🤔
This is the best tire review channel. Exemplary production quality and driver value when combined with an exhaustively data intense website.
Better than TireRack which is a shame. But I’m sure these type of reviews would affect their supplier relationships.
Okay as an idiot I’m gonna say how much grip surface is actually on the ground how much grip surface how much of the surface is actually gripping the tarmac on the ground that’s my definition, not tread pattern but give me the grip pattern because the grip on the ground is what we need, so how much grip the tyres havedo they grip the road unforgiving tarmac? How much traction can these tyres get on tarmac?
Agreed. Been watching for years so much effort put into the tests
Absolutely. Choosing an All Season Tire is searching a good compromise. I have chosen to go with Goodyear Vector 4 Season.
Their performance is nearly always good. I don't have to worry about grip, even when they were near the winter markings.
This channel helped me to choose a tire matching my needs. The test methods match everyday using behavior.
i have a bmw x5 all wheel drive. best rain tire i ever had was quite by accident, dunlap winter sports 235-50-18., directional snow tires. unlreal the handling, was like on dry grounds in pouring rain, made a 6000 lb truck drive like it was on rails ,, i was able to smoothly corner at 45- 50 mph on turns i would only do 35-40 with my scorpion zeros
These videos are my prime source of information for choosing a new all season tire.
I'm sticking with CC2's,2nd winter in the north and they have done things in the great white north that have blown my mind.
When I need to R&R my tires now ,I'm going back to the CC's.
One thing they did, on hard packed snow was, I hit the brakes hard at 50 mph and the car stopped like it was on blacktop.
The car stopped straight and the anti locks never activated .there's more ,no time to write a book.
CrossClimate2 if properly taken care of and inflated to correct PSI (check every 2 weeks or monthly), rotation at each 5K or 7.5K Oil Change, you can get more than 60K miles up to 80K miles on them. A couple people (TH-camrs) claim they were able to get 100K miles on CC2. I have had CC2 for 19 months and gone through 2 Northeastern U.S. winter seasons and have not swapped tires/wheels. Why should I ? They are All-Weather and tread wear is minimal, so no need to go Summer "All-Season" to a Winter/Snow tire. CrossClimate2 is a all year round tire. Note: you will lose 2 to 3 MPG "miles per gallon" then some drivers who have bad habits and type of vehicle driven could lose 5 MPG or more (CC2 are not fuel efficient). They are quiet except on snow, smooth handling, excellent control on the road and cornering, braking is reasonable, somewhat comfortable as may depend on your Wheel Size. No tire can be rated a perfect 10. Overall I will give CC2 an 8.2 out of 10. Most other competitive tires vs the Michelin CC2 would receive a 7 to 8. If strictly a Summer Tire you could find a 9. As for a Winter Tire there might be an 8.5 or 8.7 out there. But for overall performance with an all year all weather tire ... CC2 still leads the bunch. You won't be disappointed with CC2. Cost in the U.S.A. average $265 USD per tire for 235/40R19.
You've confirmed my findings. I've always been a Crossclimate driver since they arrived on British shores but Crossclimate 2 changed the dynamics, it was too focused as a snow tyre, slithery in wet conditions, insecure through deep water corners, noticeable block movement through dry fast corners and overall quite noisy. This winter I changed to the Bridgestone and it's everything that the Michelin needed to be, surefooted in the wet, great braking in wet and dry, secure in subzero temperatures and a much lower purchase price; sorry Michelin, the Bridgestone is my new champion of all season tyres!
doing a convoy wear test is going above and beyond
Did you switch the leader of the convoy or the same tyre was on front all the time?
@@formicone7 In another video with convoy wear testing they stated that both the drivers and the sets of tires were rotated between vehicles. I would assume the same procedure was used here.
@@formicone7 they follow industry practice of rotating leaders (If I recall correctly from one of their earlier videos where they introduced this test).
That moustache transition was on another level tho
:D it started because i'm glazy, now i feel like I need to teach a gym class.
He's got a list of tyres and he's crossing them off test by test. He's just trying to find a better tyre. His name is Jonathan.
Glad to see he's joined the moustache club. Strong look. Now cut off that beard!
😂😂😂😂
winter cuts were maybe in movember?
I bought Continental ASC2 in october, but could not find any tests like this, now I'm glad i did.
Nice choice, how are you finding them?
@@tyrereviews I am very satisfied with them, only thing I noticed is a little bit aquaplaning in deep water puddles, I didnt have a chance to drive them in snow this year and my car is rear wheel drive , so that would be interesting
I also put them on my wifes A Class after she had a scary moment on ice. We’ve been very impressed by the new continentals so much so they’re going on my Tesla when the OEM summer Michelins wear out. She was confident leaving the house in snow the one day it snowed this year but I was sliding sideways down the drive on summer tyres.
did you buy in usa? i cant find them in usa
@@johnkirkman6185 where in usa did you get them?
Awesome review. My favorite tire used to be the Goodyear Assuarance TripleTreds. Now I love my CrossClimate2's and their longevity is outstanding. For the all-around best tire for my needs and use, the Michelin's are still king to me. Great video as always.
Same, having the crossclimates on my car for 3 years now and they look almost brand new, 2 more years and the savings from not having to change tires will pay for themselves :D
I am glad that competitors have caught up and surpassed Michelin. Perhaps this will motivate them to come out with a CC3.
I have CrossClimate2 on my Crosstrek. They are phenomenal all season tires. Especially for a daily driver.
I had cc2 on my rear wheel drive 335d for 60k Kms, phenomenal tires and even with the weight and torque that tire was good in wet and light snow. Plenty of tread left over after 3 yrs.
I also have CC2, but they became loud after ca 40000km...
So you habe the same experience?
I look forward to these tests every year. So much effort and details go into these reviews, truly a gold standard in tires content. Keep it up!
Hands down the best tire reviewer. Im in need of tires very soon and planned on the Michelin due to your other videos, but its great to see a better value tire perform almost equally well(continental). Cant wait to try them!
Another fantastic, really helpful video. Great to see consideration of residual speed on the cheaper tyres - crashing at 40+ km/hour can be life-changing in all the wrong ways - so important to get that message out
Especially when braking from 80 mph rather than 80 kph.
Finally tires from Dunlop and Yokohama in the test. Thanks a lot.
Glad someone appreciates it!
I do, too. I've always liked the idea of Yokahamas. Just barely ever bought them.
I've had the Michelin Cross Climate 2 for a couple of years now, and I absolutely love them. It's good to see other brands challenging it, because competition is good for consumers, and technology.
Agreed. Which is why the democrat platform this year of price control is absolutely insane!
@@mojorizn72Shut up this is about tires not ignorance.
@@donaldpiper9763uh oh. Another person incredibly triggered when they hear an opposing opinion on politics. Wonder who made them that way, bet my savings it was extremism from the democrats.
Been waiting for this video. Will guide my choice in Oct.
There will be another one by October!
Pirelli looked so good... and then it did what it does on the motorcycle side also: provide a fantastic tire that wears too quickly, and performance degrades quickly in the last quarter of life.
Michelin has been my #1 go to for years. I live in Colorado and the weather is all over the place for most of the year. I started off with the Michelin Primacy tires first that I really liked then the Cross Climate series came out and I haven't bought any other tires. The Cross Climate 2 have been amazing and has earned the top spot for any vehicle that I own.
Also, Costco usually have a great deal on Michelin. I am going to buy a new Volvo this December and it comes with the Pirelli Scorpion Verde. Soon as those tires wear out I will be going right back to the Cross Climate 2. Now if only Michelin could actually produce good wiper blades that last like Valeo and Bosch have I'd buy their wiper blades as well.
My cross climate plus tires were finished at 40,000kms. I switched to the Hankook 4s2, and feel that they are amazing in the snow and rain, far better than the cc+ tires. I was going to put the cc2 on, but the Hankook 4s2 was such a great deal, that I couldn't pass them up. An excellent tire and was convinced to try them after the excellent review TR posted. Thank you!!
I second that, very happy with the feel of the Hankooks.
Have the Hankook as well. Terrible flatspotting from being parked. I haven't got cc or cc2 to compare to, but I have generally not been super impressed by the snow performance.
I'm satisfied with my set. Wet and dry are excellent. For snow, they are great in a straight line both acceleration and braking. They are a bit prone to understeer in snow. I've had to use the handbrake to get enough rotation in tight turns. Fwd Mazda 3.
I bought the Hankooks too - first ever AS tyre for me. Find them way harder ride than the Michelin summer tyres I came from. How are they for firmness compared to other AS tyres for those that have had others - are Michelin CC a better ride comfort wise?
@@thebrowns5337 to me the first cc seemed harder.
I have driven all-season tires by many manufacturers over the past 40+ years. All of my Michelins worked OK initially , but turned hard and unusable within 20 K miles or so. I have had the best experience with the latest All-Season Continentals, combining performance, grip, and litte wear / long lasting tires..
I know the weatherpeak is a US only tire, but I really want to see it tested against the CC2, especially in the snow. It's a non-directional tire, and it consistently gets very good reviews
Pirelli is having progress year by year. And I like that we got a tire which is very good for summer and acceptable for winter. This is something we lost with the changes of the CrossClimates 2
Yeha pirelli was kind of bad for general use up until these past few years where their linup is getting better and better
Bought Continental ASC 2 few months ago, already 5000km and very happy with it. 245/40/19 Thanks @tyrereviews for advising to buy Continental. Keep the good work with the videos!
Glad you like them, get a review on www.tyrereviews.com :)
hi there. It's 8 months later, could you share your findings about the Continental ASC2's in terms of wear, comfort and noise levels, especially in the summer? I live in southern Germany where we only get light snow these years. So I'm also considering getting all-seasons instead of switching between summer and winter tyres every 6 months.
@ all good, 20k km. Never tested on snow yet. Wear is okey, been rotating tyres every 5k km. Noise is ofc not summer tyre level, but very close. Wet traction is very very good, car is stable even in high speeds in autoban. Over all very happy, just need test snow/ice performance.
Had the older contis on a previous car, and they were excellent. Good to see the new ones are even better. Living in Wales, cold, wet weather performance is more important to me than outright snow abilities.
Best channel for tire review on TH-cam. Keep up the good work 🎊
I bought new set of tyres yesterday Bridgestone Turanza Allseason 6. Thnx for your detailed review.
Really content with the Hankook Kinergy 4S, especially in dry and wet breaking! But all clients on the Michelin CrossClimate drove a really decent distance over the 90.000 km, and still have 3+ mm on profile left, that’s making them worthwhile the few extra € in price.
Yeah, a lot depends on the price difference of the Michelin's and the Hankooks for your particular car at the time you want them. Either are a great choice. As are some of the other premium all season tyres.
Excellent review! Last september I bought a set of Bridgestone All Season 6 tyres, it was a bit of a gamble since it was just released. I am really impressed with the wet performance, perfect for Dutch winters. Your review confirms this. I have them mounted on a Z4 3.0si coupe. For summer tyres I have a set of Bridgestone Potenza Sport, they work perfect during the summer giving grip straight away with out the need of warming the tyres also they preform solid on a occasional lap on the Nurburgring.
Nice combination! There must be a pretty big subjective difference between the two when swapping?
Where are the Goodyear Vector 4Seasons ?
Probably dragging it out he will do a big round up in the future double dip that way 😂
In the trash. Goodyear is garbage
@@Caxel108kid
Would have liked the hankook
Where Kama tyres? Or Viatti?
THANK YOU soooo much for residual speed! This adds something I can reference when making recommendations for those that say 'well that's track driving".
Thank you! thank you! I originally missed this upload. Notifications are now actually ON!
Exactly the review I was waiting for before outfitting our 2 cars with new all-season tires. Very informative!
A couple of years ago I put a set of Continental Contour Contact tires on my Grand Marquis. (AFAIK, they're exclusive to Discount Tire) Living in western Oregon, we get a lot of rain. Even so, my "discount" Conti's rain performance on my landbarge is excellent. I've got a few roads and intersections where I try to maintain or improve my skill level. They stick like glue regardless of how hard it's raining.
When it's snowed, they've only broken loose once that I didn't expect, when I hit an off-camber dip in the road. Other than that, they've been solid in the slick. Of course, with about 750,000 miles in commercial trucks, many of those miles on ice and snow, I don't hurry at all in those conditions. Slow and steady gets me home.
Excellent test! Since these are European tires, can we expect an American edition?
Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks for making testing data available, for Canada I would weight snow and ice higher than dry and even wet.
That's the beauty of the data being public, though I would argue if you want that level of winter performance a full winter tyre would be best
@@tyrereviews been running the CrossClimate 2 for a few years and it's been good enough coming from dedicated winter tires
Wait... No Vredesteins? Their all-seasons were the best in the wet last time. Perfect for the UK winters (IMO)
Why would you like a tyre wich is a few % better in Rain then Snow? Never mind normal people have a set of winter tyres.
Because it almost never snows where I live. And rains nearly every single day in winter. @@yamahass66
@@yamahass66Most people in the UK use cheap summer tyres in the winter.
My car is fitted with Michelin Crossclimate 2s and my partner has Vredestein Quatracs on her car. I'm very happy with both of them 🙂
Same for the Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons I imagine; the priority was testing as many new products as possible against the all-round industry benchmark for reference.
@04smallmj Yes you do thats why the accidents are sky-high at winter. Why Prioritizing 5% better rain when you can drive a bit slower in that case?
LOVE these tire reviews - Best Format, Best Information, Best Subjective Feedback ! Kudos!
I am however quite frustrated that I can find Only the Michelin CC2 in the US!
C'mon Pirelli and Continental - Please share these great tires with us Yanks.
Continental has the Extreme Contact DWS 06 in the states that I would have loved to see in this test. I would have really liked to see this tire in this test.
It's been my tire of choice for years and performs amazingly in all conditions.
The issue is wear, none of these meet the standard America expects from its tyres. The US CC2 version is different from this as explained in the wear section.
I had Pirelli as OEM on on my 2017 BMW x1 here in Alberta, Canada. First 30,000 km (3 winters) they were pretty nice in winter (5 month snow coverage here), next 30,000 were becoming a bit iffy. Replaced then with another identical set at 60,000 km
@@tyrereviews Not sure about US, but in Canada these tires are like 50% more expensive. Michelin's I see for equivalent of 150 Euros, and 200 Euro tires are quite frequent
@@dmitripogosian5084 This may well be a size issue. The tested tyres are 205/55/R16. This is a very common tyre size in Europe (maybe in Canada as well?) and therefore quite affordable. Over here even a modestly different size like a 215/55/R16 can easily be 50% more expensive than the 205s.
Wow, this is exactly what I have searching for; been on the hunt for 3 or so weeks. Based on what I see here vs what I found on tirerack I think I am going to go with the Pirellis. Those are magnificent tires.
I am really impressed with your testing methodology and the quality of your explanations/information. Midway through I was thinking your test results and impressions would be more valid if you were blinded as to which tire you were testing, and right about that moment in the video you mentioned that's what you do when possible. Later when looking at the expected life of each tire I was surprised that the CC2 would be so low since it is a 60k mile tire, and once again you addressed that with your explanation of the differences between the US and Euro versions. Top quality work, it's definitely appreciated!
Glad you found it useful!
@ 5:33 "That must be worth a subscription"
Sure thing. Enjoyed this and other tests on your channel massively, even if snow and ice are not really conditions I see here...ever on the Mexican desert.
Not so surprised that Conti are top of the list. I've had a few different winter tyres over the years, Vredestein, Khumo, Radar Dimax, and Conti Winter Contact. And while all were good at winter conditions i think of all of them Conti were top. They had the most difficult of conditions and dealt with it exceptionally well and while loads of other drivers were struggling to get traction in the heavy snow that was thick on the road surface for miles in Alpine Mountains at temps of -19C, my rear wheel drive BMW went up everthing i asked of it without hesitation and no loss of control.
This test feels exactly suited for the uk climate where rain performance outweighs snow tests with the exception of the north of scotland of course. Glad to see pirelli back to their best and finally cc2 knocked off their overhyped overpriced perch in my opinion. Great test.
Best tire reviews out there. Well done! Would have been nice to seen the Nokian Remedy WRG5. Perhaps you can fold them in to a future round up?
Working on getting a G5 in the mix
@@tyrereviews Awesome! Any plans on testing the US versions from these brands? Like Pirelli weatheractive? Or bridgestones all weather tire? Is the CC2 the only tire in this mix available in the US? Great video as usual!
yeah that's the plan, get all the US brands in one test!@@ipcamtalk4314
Great update. I have used Bridgestone on my A6 for a number of years. About 15 years ago I bought some cheap tyres, which after 500 miles I changed for a big brand tyres as the performance was so bad.
DUNLOP and YOKOHAMA!! This is simply great! Thank you very much for including them both in a current test.
It's great that you read and implemented the comments and wishes from previous videos! There was actually never a proper test of either tire - which especially annoyed me with the Dunlop.
I found this one particularly interesting because the Sport All Season is one of the last ones that still has an asymmetrical tire profile.
Based on your tests and recommendations over the last 2 years, we now have the CrossClimate2 on 2 everyday cars, but I was curious and bought a set of Dunlops in the fall of '23.
But - to be on the safer side - for an older all-wheel drive Audi, as I had already suspected that the performance would be limited on snow due to the profile pattern.
I can absolutely confirm your test values. The Dunlop steers very precisely, the wet handling and dry handling are really good, much better than expected!
The tire also runs unexpectedly quietly and comfortably (quieter than the Conti summer tires that were previously on the A6). And - as quattro zero traction issues or oversteer tendency.
Keep up your great testing! You're the best! 👍
We just had a massive blizzard here in the southern plains (Jan 3rd) and I still have my CC2's that I bought 5 years ago now, though they only have about 15k miles on them. We had ZERO issues getting around with them. The unique problem with this blizzard was the amount of ice that came before the snow, so under all that snow was no traction to be found but a nice thick half inch layer of ice on blacktop. I'm only one of three people in our city that have CC2's and we were probably the only three people not getting stuck anywhere, not even from the pure ice problem.
There was an older gentleman that has gone through 3 sets of CC2's and only uses studded when it gets real bad in his state of Michigan that put up a review about the CC2's. He showed the current set he was on, as he is a Lyft driver, that had 75000 miles on them and still had 5/32's of tread left on them. He said they were still gripping great in the snow, but he noticed the water and dry running wasn't as "tight" as they were obviously when newer. But the one thing he did bring up about the CC2's that most people are ignoring and just using their "factory" PSI rating on the door panel, was that you do have to inflate the CC2's slightly higher than the standard PSI rating on the door and he's right. I run mine between 38-40 psi, usually 38 for all four wheels. At 38 psi in the CC2's you get nice even tread wearing, more stable MPG (except in the first 5000 miles of the CC2's because they start at 11/32 or at least the ones for the USA do), and probably the best "grip" you're going to get.
I just don't drive as much as I used to, but our 2nd vehicle is in the shop, so my wife has been driving the car and hasn't even felt afraid to drive on this snow and ice compared to her vehicle that just has M+S tires on it that we just leave on there year round. This isn't really an area of the country that you need two sets of tires if you find a good all weather tire like the CrossClimate 2. My price for all 4 tires was around 1400.00 USD for 245/45R19's. This was also when you could only get them through a wholesaler. They're more available now at multiple tire dealers and the cost has come down quite a bit.
Good stuff as always. Agree that wet performance is key, but whats increasingly becoming important to to me for an all season in the UK is how it handles pot holes, not sure how you can test that though. Some of the roads near me feel like an AT is the way to go!
You can use impact bars for endurance testing but it's pretty expensive as it can be quite destructive to wheels and suspension etc
I had no idea these were so disliked! I love these and collect them at the parks I go to and I love the durability of them. They’ve certainly helped me when I got lost. I literally seek these out at gift shops because I find them so handy.
Since everyone agrees that a 4 season tyre is a very much of a compromise on various weather conditions, I think that it would be extremely useful testing them in hot weather as well, as they are much more common around Europe!!
I am running Uniroyal AllSeasonExpert2 on my winter beater in true winter conditions with 25cm snow and ice. And they are completely acceptable. I would recommend all season tires if they are of good make and you are travelling 5-8k km a year.
I used to always use winter tires, but over the last 10-15 years the winters have become much less harsh. 20 years ago the roads were snow covered for a good percent of the winter. Now they are dry 95% of the time. So now I switch my summer wheels/tires to winter skewed all season tires. They work good enough for the limited snow and work better on pavement than winter tires since dry pavement is now the majority of the winter.
I agree. Snow is the lowest priority for me. I'd rather see a tire that excels in cold and wet winters rather than snowy/icy sub zero conditions.
Liked and subscribed. Your details and transparency separate your work from others I've seen.
Much appreciated.
Finally a Dunlop in test...
I am glad that you tested the Sport All Season in particular, as am thinking about switching to all season tires.
I would have liked to see them against Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen3, because I'm trying to decide between these two...
The Goodyear is an outstanding tyre, if the price is the same it would be a pretty easy choice for me.
@@tyrereviews
Thank you!
I live on a mountain in CT in the USA where we have snow every winter. Climbing the mountain is highly important or you walk home. AWD is also important or you walk home. When I moved here with FWD cars and snow tires, I could not get home and I would walk about 2 km to get home in the snow (not pleasant). Bought AWD cars and snow tires at first. Then switched the first gen Michelin CrossClimate. Now use the second generation and still don't have problems getting home in the winter. Very interesting to see Pirelli getting close but still not quite as good as the Michelin in the snow which is the priority for me, but some of these others seem to be a viable option now (not Bridgestone). Thank you for doing this detailed analysis - the best I have ever seen!
Clilmate change, it will be better and better, soon you can change back to FWD and summer tires 😜
@@CristianChereji Have not seen it yet. Last winter the worst storm brought us 18 inches in 24 hours, one of the worst in years. I bet you are right at some point but as of 2023 not yet.
Just ordered some of the Continentals to replace the tires that came with my new car last week so I’m very pleased to see they have such a good result in the tests. Looking forward to getting them fitted, very promising. Thank you for your hard work. I based my decision on what I saw on the reviews left on your website, they seemed to be about as good as you could hope to get 👍
AWESOME TESTING AND REPORTING. THANK YOU! AMAZING HOW A VISUAL OF A TIRES SIPES AND DESIGN MAY NOT BE HOW IT PERFORMS IN ALL CONDITIONS. I TOO AM IMPRESSED WITH THE RESULTS OF THE CONTINENTALS ALL AROUND PERFORMANCE. OUGHT TO WORK GREAT ON MY AWD SUV. WITH THE PRICE OF TIRES, ONE WANTS HIS INVESTMENT TO RISE TO ALL OCCASIONS FOR SAFETY AND PERFORMANCE.
Did the same with CC2 with a new car to get the most resell value out of the free set of factory ECO tires that is only good for MPG to gain massive safety, performance and convenience of a set of premium All Season for year round safety use.
Great to hear! Let me know how you like them!
where did you find them in usa?
@@AA-ih6kt I’m European but you can probably order them online. They were discounted at the shop I bought them from. I’d be very surprised if Continental aren’t selling them in the USA already, after all it’s a huge market. You’re probably best off searching online and ordering them to a tire fitter of your choice. Hope that helps
I actually picked up some CrossClimate 2's for an 07 Civic, after my poor Sonic gave it's last in a collision. It changed the car completely. The feeling of safety and confidence is 100% a thing. And they've already seen a few Utah snowfalls.
Amazing test, definitely the best tire channel on yt 🎉
Thanks for the review. I am using the cross climate for a year on my Q3 quattro and Tesla AWD long range. The best AS I have ever had, impressed with the snow capability, speed, braking. No complaints from me so far and have done close to 20,000 miles on them.
Well, I guess my next all season tire will be Bridgestone again. It's really good in a place with little snow.
I have Conti ASC2 on a Cupra Born and they do a good job on usual roads. We had a lot of rain since 3 months and it works fine!! including when I do some small drift with the car, this tires feel safety. On the other hands, the factory tyres (EcoContact) had bad feeling, essentially on wet road
Great review! Sadly the bridgestone turanza all season 6 isn't on the Bridgestone Canada website, yet.
Not quite the same but in North America we have WeatherPeak from Bridgestone (all weather tire and is compared to cc2 a lot on Bridgestone’s website), which was not included in the video.
While not the same tire you tested, I absolutely love my Continental ExtremeContact DWS All Season tires on my (nearing classic age)26+ year old '98 BMW 328i. Never a worry in any condition, and gave admirable performance for a rear-wheel drive, manual transmission car in several inches of snow. Can't speak to ice performance as we rarely see any around here in New Jersey thanks(?) to all the salt on the roads. But it is very comfortable, quiet, great performing in the dry and not too far off in the wet. I've had this car since 2013 and over 100,000mi, and am only on my 2nd set. I will be buying my third set soon. Excellent value tire as well, as you pointed out in your test.
Have the CrossClimate 2 on my car with about 35,000 miles on them; great handling, exceptional grip on all surfaces, mpg went up by 1/2 mpg per mile, tread looks very good and hope to get at least another 45000 miles on them. I used to use Bridgestone tires but they seemed to attract nails; 8 flat tires that destroyed the tires (total replacement) over a period of a couple years. Ran our other car that had Michelins on that same road surface and never had a flat.
Great great video, as always. Happy to see that a new generation of tires are coming, and they beat the CC2 king. I think Continental is an excellent product here, as are all their tires. Cheers.
This is the best all season tire breakdown review I have ever seen.
I have Nokian WRG4 tires here. Have been extremely pleased with them.
had those on our model s and they lasted very poorly for us on tesla car...
The best tire reviews on TH-cam. (England based) Well done, Sir.
HA! just got the Continental AllSeasonContact 2... now your test says they are the best. So glad to hear it.
Are you still pleased. Most expensive of the group of tyres?
Yes. After 3k km no issues. Ride is smooth. They are less noisy than my old winter tyres Conti TS 850P.
Hi there. It's 8 months later, I'd like to ask if you could you share your findings about the Continental ASC2's, especially in terms of wear, comfort and noise levels in the summer? I live in southern Germany where we only get light snow in the winter, so I'm also considering getting all-seasons instead of switching between summer and winter tyres every 6 months.
@@dixonkimanifells I put them on the car yesterday. Wear is pretty good, I would say 1mm in 10k km just made a swap front to back to have a even wear. I live in Elsass and the weather is the same.
@@Zorro-XX great to hear they're that good. Then I will also get the Contis ASC2. Thanks for the quick reply!
Got the Contis after this review and I am impressed. They are really great tyres. So thank you so much for this video!
Amazing work once again!!!
Well, after two and a half years asking you to test Dunlop, I must say it has decent results.
Kudos to YOU for making this happen! 🙂
You present these Tyres so Nice that i want to collect and buy them all😄 The Pirelli’ and Conti’s are my favourites ! Thanks John! Regs from CH🇨🇭
I'd personally like more info on comfort. You can get objective data using a decibel meter for sound and a vibration gauge over a cattle grid for vibration.
I spend vastly more time cruising around doing work and errands than trying to lap a wet racing circuit. Comfort is something that definitely would influence my choice, but the review barely touches it.
I had a perfect lane change test, a settee in pieces on the a1 , high speed dodging various bit of furniture was required.
I would love to see a Goodyear tire in the mix.
still has its strong points though like comfort/low noise, dry handling and high mileage. but overall it's outclassed by the newcomers.
I'm just replacing mine with Contis after 3 years and 61.000 km!
Awesome! Thanks for doing an ice test!
Would have loved to see where the Goodyear and the Hankook stack up against this bunch in same test conditions.
Great review as usual, great to see the new generation coming through.
Happy to stick to my 16" Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen - 3.
We get lots of wet country lanes in Weardale they are great for this.
I have had Crossclimate, ASC, SF2 and Hankook 4S2. One factor that I would really like to see analysed in the reviews is the capacity of the tire to survive hot summers: I have experienced heavy thread destruction at even slow paces in Italian summer (30+ °C), so it would be interesting to see if there are differences in the range of temperature in which they are performing well! I would also be very interested in getting these with a runflat/self sealing technology since most cars nowadays are missing the spare wheel! Thank you for your immense work, it helped me a lot through the years!
Test in the US or Australia
Runflat sidewalls are thicker making the tyre heavier and less supple. As a result the ride is harsher. Lots of people regret picking run-flats and swap back to non run-flats next change.
I made with my Crossclimate+, 45.000km in 3 years and they are still good for next 10.000km. Dimensions of tires are 255/35/19. I live on Croatia where summers are wery hot.
@@stolarijarendula7502 a taman mene zanima preživljavaju li cijelogodišnje gume naša ljeta.
I have cc2 after 16k km.5mm thread left. Normal driving.Montenegro also realy hot specialy this summer.i@@stolarijarendula7502
CrossClimate2 is my choice and still using them 365 days per year. Had them since December 2022 as gone through 2 U.S. Northeast winters as where I live gets an annual average of 126 inches of snowfall. Still have plenty of tread and expect to last another 4 whole years. I don't have to swap between Summer/ All-Season to Winter/Snow tires as CC2's are All-Weather and all year round tires. However, you do lose 2 to 4 MPG on fuel efficiency sometimes worse MPG depending on terrain, how you drive - aka driver bad habits, and maintaining proper PSI - inflation. Expect to get more life as the CC2 should get you between 60,000 to 80,000 miles before replacing. A couple of TH-camr Video folks have claimed 100k miles on CrossClimate2s. They are relatively quiet, except in snow, handle weather conditions well, and good on the road. Comfort depends on wheel size ... I have 235/40R19 [2023 Toyota Camry XSE V6] and on good surfaced roads they are comfortable, get on choppy and terrible roads I tend to feel all the roads imperfections. Overall, CC2 is a great tire. The OE tires were BridgeStone Turanza EL440's which are 1,000 percent dangerous and unsafe tires as I had them shredded. The Best Top 3 Brand Name tire companies are Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, and worth an honorable mention is Good Year. Stay far away from any Asian/Korean/Japan made tires and that include Mexico.
Been on a CrossClimate 2 for several years now. Nothing you said persuades me to change. i am a ski instructor so need solid snow performance. Drove to Corsica n back this summer - no drama. Came back up through the Italian/Swiss Alps with loads of standing water in an absolute deluge - not a wobble. I’ll stick with Cross Climate 2. Wear has been great too 25k plus miles (2 years now.) Will probably replace this winter hence my interest in your review.
Buying Continental AllSeasonContact 2 next month thanks to you! Thanks a lot for this awesome test! ❤
Wish I would've seen this before recently getting some cross climate 2's put on but at least I can still be content with the snow performance. Best tire reviews out there! Keep it up!
A very interesting comparison test.
I am a big fan of the CrossClimate 2’s on my wife’s car, so it’s heartening to know so many others are working to complete.
Thank you.
Jon absolutely smashes it with these tire reviews. Dude jam packs so much information in these comprehensive tests that you need multiple viewings to absorb it all! I'm gonna have to disagree with Jon on his criticism of Michelin.The CrossClimate2 tires are essentially snow tires that can be driven year-round and that's exactly what buyers want. Michelin should NOT back off their snow performance.
The CrossClimate2 are perfect for Pacific Northwest or Rocky Mountain drivers who drive into the mountains every weekend to go skiing and spend the rest of the week commuting on wet roads. We want the best snow tire available to keep us safe in the snow but still competent in town where it's warmer. The cherry on top is that we can keep them mounted on the car all year.
If you spend the rest of the week commuting on wet roads and only ski for 1 of 7 days, surely you want the best tyre for 6 of those days?
@@tyrereviews I'd counter that it's not like the CC2s magically got worse though. They’re still just as good today in the dry/wet as they were when first introduced. Snow storms are highly variable and potentially far more treacherous than wet pavement that drivers contend with on the daily anyways?
agree 110% am in colorado and its a fantasticcccccccccccccccc tire....most places pricematch..i got the 235/65/17 for 207.59 a tire on pricematch just this week.
This category is getting more and more interesting!
Anyone, notice after watching Tyre reviews everyone is happy. In fact everything I watch one I'm more confused about which tire I need.
I switched to michelin Crossclimate about 5-6 years ago (i think i was also influenced by a clip from this channel). I'm going to switch to summer tires because all season tires seem (very) noisy to me. Last winter we had 2 days with snow so...
Congratulations for your work man!
Shame the Hankook 4s2 data/ wasn't included in this test. Great test all the same.
Sadly only had budget for 6 tyres in the wear test
purchased 4s2 2 years ago, still very satisfied.
@@borianmAbsolutely! I had the Michelin bofore I bought the Hankook in October 2022. Most importantly the Hankook perform way better in rain while the Michelin tend to understeer frequently.
Stavo per scrivere la stessa cosa.
Monto questo tipo di allseason da ormai diversi anni e su 2 auto. I primi furono le Michelin Crossclimate per una Insignia OPC , ne sono rimasto davvero sorpreso soprattutto in estate dove i vecchi allseason arrivavano al limite, mentre questi erano davvero buoni .
Lo stesso anno per l'auto più piccola (Ds3) fui costretto a prendere i Continental perché i Michelin erano purtroppo esauriti nella mia misura e devo dire che sono rimasto molto soddisfatto.
L'autunno scorso per la Ds3 dopo 4 anni e ca. 35k km (auto che uso per andare al lavoro) ho voluto provare le Hankook , soprattutto per il prezzo più basso rispetto alle Michelin e Conti e durante questo inverno si sono comportate benissimo , anche su neve fresca di 20 cm , adesso aspetto con ansia l'estate..
You gave me more than enough information for me to choose my new tires. Thank you for your detailed analysis.
Also subscribed.
Holy cow. I didn't think anything would beat the CrossClimate 2. It's good to see the other brands shaking it up!
I still have the CC2's I bought when I got my Model Y. Best tires I've ever driven on. I'll have to keep up to date for my next set now that the other brands are back in the competition.
For all us North American viewers, here is my dream comparison test lineup request: Michelin CrossClimate 2 vs. Hankook Kinergy 4S2 vs. Toyo Celsius II vs. Falken Aklimate vs. Bridgestone WeatherActive vs. Pirelli Cinturato/Scorpion Weatheractive vs. Firestone Weathergrip vs. Nokian Remedy WRG5. Any chance we could see something like that in the next year? Your North American viewers want to know. Amazing review once again. Thank you!
^^^ Did you mean Bridgestone WeatherPeak?
Which all weather tire to you perfer in North America?
@@-JayHenry- Still pretty hard to beat the Michelin. But my most popular tire with the most positive feedback is the Toyo Celsius II. The Falkens are too new for any kind of testing or feedback. The Hankooks seem to be great for traction but I had several complaints about them being very noisy
It could be interesting to see some of the first "new generation" all season tires like CrossClimate or AllSeasonContact in the comparison.
Have the Michelins on my 2020 Kia Soul GT line. The tires have over 38,000 miles on them and still look great, a lot of tread left and they do perform. I do rotate them every 5K.
Great testing, as always.
I hope you can please test some American all-weather tires. I really want to see a comparison between the Michelin CC2 and the Nokian WRG - now WRG5.
I also want to see a test with the Falken Aklimate, which is incredibly inexpensive - cheaper than many American all-season tires.
Tire Rack is testing the Falken Aklimate, but only against the Toyo Celsius II and Nokian Encompass AW01, but not against the Michelin nor against the Nokian WRG.
Thanks again, as always.
Working on it :)
Those turanza tires are looking REEEEAL good considering i plan on having Blizzaks as dedicated snow tires.
I got the continental ASC 2, was a bet since their were no tests. I am very satisfied with them. Good grip in all occasions, they are very silent, fuel consumption was better than the OEM summer tyres. Comfort is quite good, being a conti it is a bit firmer, but also meaning it has good road feedback. On my previous car I had the Michelin CC2 and while on paper they are better, they dissapointed me, in everyday use the conti's are amazing, they actually surprised me
Glad you like them, get a review on www.tyrereviews.com :)
I'm also considering getting the Contis ASC2. Do you live in an area with hot summers, where temps get to 30C for at least 2 months or so? If yes, how does the wear hold up in over the hot summer months?
@@dixonkimaniYes, in Belgium. Summers can reach above 30 degrees Celsius like last summer. Also alot of rain. Very occasionally snow. They performed excellent everywhere. Bought a new car now which standard had the michelin CC2, and I really miss the conti's
@@wesleyt2896 perfekt! Thanks for the quick reply!
Replaced all season Michelin’s with Michelin Cross Country (American version) and really love them for the traction, smoothness, quiet ride, and grip in rain, on Ford Flex AWD, here in California Bay Area. Mostly dry, sometimes Pineapple Express brings tropical downpour where the lane markers disappear on freeways and not possible to distinguish flooded road from just an inch or so of water.
There seems to be a cult-like following for the CrossClimate 2 (and maybe it's well-deserved) but I've pointed out before that your testing showed how it sacrifices wet braking. Good to see it has some competition.
Such important testing, thank you! I live in the US mountain west and wet traction is completely unimportant because my roads are either dry or snow-covered for 16 hours. AllSeasonContact 2 looks impressive as a CrossClimate 2 alternative but not for the sale in the US yet from what I can tell. I can't bring myself to consider Pirelli or Bridgestone based on prior experiences despite your testing. Reputation is a hell of a thing to blow and try to claw back.
not in usa yet correct..its wierd as their promo stuff all said avail end of 2023 and its out in uk...why not here yet? Maybe an issue with the tire/compounds/design here???? I was waiting but ended up with another set of cc3 on the 2 cars i have after 4 yrs on the cc2 and couldnt wait any longer..i needed tires
Goodyear to the list please
i simply love these videos so so much. I got the Nokian outpost nat tire and i absolutly love them. I wish i didn't have to say this but they have saved me from two crashes already. Once on straight ice where every single car but mine slipped off the road, and one foolish driver not looking and pulling out infront of me ( I had to swerve into the opposite lane very quickly)
One of the things that sold me on the M crossclimate2 was that it's performance remains quite steady even as it wears, even to the point that it's overall performance is supposedly quite close at the end of it's life compared to the overall performance when new. Is that BS, or not?? THAT is actually more important to me than a tire that puts out great numbers when new, but so-so when worn. I bought these CC2s for my wife's car because I wanted safe tires for her, particularly in the wet, that would perform even as they were worn. Comments?? 🤔
Excellent point. This would be a great last metric, second half of life degradation.
Thank you for a very thorough evaluation of these tires. It was quite interesting to see how they compared.