I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Australia, a big factor when choosing a size for an overlanding rig, is to choose the most common option, so you can get a replacement wherever you go. 265/75 is available in almost every brand, whereas 235/85 is very limited.
I am in the US but I consider that as well my truck came with a 245/75 but will fit 285/75 without much issues but the 265/75 is easier to find so that is what I run
I had those 235/85 16's on my 3rd gen 4runner and I loved them. Yes, they looked skinny when compared to all the other guys on the trail rides. But they worked so well and I didn't have to cut any bodywork or need to change wheels or modify the suspension.
You don't have to cut, or bend anything to run 265/75r16s. You "may have to" for 285/75r16s. But from the factory, 265/75r16s don't rub even at full flex with the sway bar removed.
Back in the 1970's we were loggers in western Montana. We always used tall skinny tires on our work pickups and would we would go circles around pickups with wide fat tires, especially in snow and ice..
Had to switch from 265 bf to 235 bf on my landrover defender …bigger tires caused a lot of steering wobbling …solved it with 235 bf mud terrain …great steering …lighter …better gas mileage….great performance too …love your channel jimmy 👍🏼
Any good off-road instructor will tell you that the 235/85/16 is the gold standard! Especially for the Defender!!! The bigger A.Ts will quickly make a lot of noise on the road as soon as they are a third worn and do not have the 3pmsf approval which authorizes to be driven on snow (in Europe it is the law) and M.S will not tell you not allow, even if the tires have a good performance! In addition, as Jimmy says so well, the bigger ones have a harder rubber, so good for the lifespan but less good for snow, mud, and much noisier... so, apart from the look, I don't see any interest.
I run the tallest and narrowest tire i can. Never had a problem with traction and narrower is less resistance off road or on road helping fuel economy. Also if your spare fits underneath your truck narrower hangs down less. One more thing if you go off road alot airing up and down takes less time with narrower tires. It sounds crazy but a few minutes per tire adds up.
@@juliosdiy3206 did my research, and I am completely happy with Gerneral Altimax Rt43 on my AWD RAV4.. I was considering going with two separate sets of tires, all season and then a set of winter tires. Went with the Generals and couldn't be happier with all around performance in all conditions. I read, at that time I bought mine, make sure they are the Altimax RT43, not the regular Altimax. I even go on some trails for camping, not serious off road trails, but they sometimes get muddy. I haven't had a problem yet after a few years with them. I have used BFG AT's , and also some Firestone tires on previous 4 wheel drive vehicles that sadly disappointed during winter months.
I took a chance on Falken Wildpeak AT3W's for my Z71 Sierra (stock size 265/75/16) 2 years ago. They're still over half tread. Besides the Bilstein 5100's shocks, these tires are the best upgrade I've ever made to my truck🤘.
I have this size on my dodge Cummins. Chinese tires called " capital. Found the receipt yesterday. 9 years old now but nearing replacement stage.also I don't put on a lot of miles each year.
Got these brand new on a 2022 rubicon jeep gladiator 285/70R17 so far fantastic in the snow ❄ and ice. Too busy working to test out off road in summer...yet.
Been running the 265's on my Tahoe since I got it. Compares and performs as equal to my buddies with big overkill tires. Never got stuck and actually pulled them out of mud and snow with ease. Stock 4x4 by the way.
I'd go with the 235-85. They are lighter, and I like the look. Also it'll be better in the snow. (Although the winter rating may not seem as important as a long mileage warranty, one accident avoidance changes all of that).
I just saw this video, im like you on thinner tires they do grab the Ground better to me wider tires tend to float on surfaces and not get good traction thinner tires are the way to go and will get you out of problems better ,good video strat safe good bless
I noticed those new BFG tires are slightly taller than stock... so your speedometer will be slightly off so you won’t get accurate miles per gallon. the best way to find what tire pressure to run is wet your tread with water, drive over dry concrete and check to make sure your entire tread is touching the ground... I personally think 45 is way too high of pressure for any set up... I run 30 psi in my 33x12.5x15 on my jeep cherokee... lastly lift blocks aren’t the best way to lift a rig used for off-roading/overlanding, only real way to lift a rig is to put actual lift springs in, you get too much axle wrap with lift blocks
Went from 265/75/16 KO2 to 235/85/16 KO2 both 32” on my Tacoma TRD Offroad and what a difference. Better performance all around except in deep loose sand. Even 2mpg better in fuel consumption. No going back to wide tires. Some tell me they don’t like the look, I just say I don’t hang out at the mall. I want performance. Though for your bigger/heavier rig I might go with the 265.
If you're staying clear of deep mud and soft sand, go for the skinnies, it's clear you understand the advantages. Though, mileage in my 95 sub isn't bad on the 265/70/16 I had on when staying down at the 55-60 mph range. It's still truck mileage, but comparable to the newer Chevy's.
kstricl. imgnation milage? 5.7. will not get more then 12-13mpg that is why those old 1995s have 42 gallon tanks mind you my 6.0l. hybrid gets 24-25.5. on the highway. the highest ever was 26.7mpg hyw
I was in the same boat for the last couple weeks. I went with 265 70 17 I told myself it would corner slightly better with less sidewall while still keeping enough to look proper for a 89 obs
The skinnys will do much better in the snow. They will get down to the pavement instead of floating on top . Old men taught me this. Now I’m the old man! When you check you mileage make Sure you take into consideration the odometer (actual miles vs shown miles)and speedometer difference with the new tires.(don’t get a ticket) You will be traveling 3 mph faster wit the new tires (at 65 you will be traveling 68 mph. Also in an hour your odometer will show 3 miles less per hour.which will lower you mpg calculation)
Keep in mind when you go to a different size tire and stiffer sidewall load that the factory recommended tire pressure may go out the door, you may need to adjust your tire pressure without going over the tires max pressure, I use the chalk method and an open parking lot, of course this will change when carrying a load or towing, just a thought
@@a-dog8075 find a flat open area like a parking lot or your street, take a piece of chalk and shade a line in one or two spots completely across the tire tread from side to side, drive forward and back as straight as possible without turning, look at your chalk lines, if the center of your chalk lines are worn down or gone and the sides are not then the tire may be over inflated for the weight of the vehicle, what I look for is the even wear across the chalk line, I noticed on my truck that I could see light under the edges of my back tires while setting in the driveway, my truck is empty most of the time, I adjusted the tire pressure using this method to get even tire wear, keep in mind that to little air pressure can overheat a tire too, I hope this helps you
Lol this whole video gave me a headache, i have a 89 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, came with a 145hp 280ft lbs torque 5.9 liter engine, yes 145hp thanks to 70s emissions bs.. But its got plenty of power for 31-33-35 inch tires, you just have to regear the diff's.
A narrow tire will be lighter at the OD meaning it has a lower polar moment of inertia, therefore it will take less HP to spin. The tires all have the same outer diameter (more or less) and the polar moment of inertia makes more of a difference on acceleration.
i ran both on my 90 sub 235/85/16 were the stock size i liked them ran that truck for 500k before it retired all on road they were great in the snow less push
There are some pluses for the 235's. #1 they are easier on the wheel bearings, #2 they will last a bit longer and they will do better in the snow. Most of the comments here refer to the looks which is ok but I also like a tires performance.
My experience has been the complete opposite of that. Fatter tires have done much better for me in snow, sand, mud conditions hmmmmm All that and he went with the wider tires 😂🤦♂️
It depends on where you drive and how old you are. After all if you live somewhere the weather is mostly mild than smaller and harder is a better deal. If your fifty or older your going to find climbing to get in the truck a burden. The thing is take all things in consideration not just what looks good bang for the buck is often misinterpreted.
I always go 1-2 sizes wider for trucks and SUVs. They're already top heavy so stock and skinnier tires can cause problems in emergency maneuvers leading to a roll over. My 06 Silverado came with 245/70-17, but it has 18" rims (09 rims). Previously had 265/65-18 but that meant the speedo was off due to being taller. So with new tires I went with 265/60-18 which is same height as stock but a full 1" wider and I love how it runs and drives now. Better grip, less roll under on corners, and slightly better mileage (average 17mpg city with 5.3L and NV3500).
Don't mistake me, I'm not calling you a liar or anything but, it doesn't make sense that a wider tire could improve mileage. Wider tire = more tread on the road = more friction = lower mpg. I don't know, perhaps you are getting slightly better mpg but, it doesn't make any sense to me.
The reason you're getting 'better' mileage is because your new tires are slightly smaller diameter than your last tires, with 159 mm sidewalls as compared to 172.25 mm sidewall. Your speedo is still calibrated at XXX revolutions per mile, but each revolution is smaller. Basically, unless you recalibrated your speedo, the odometer is also off, showing more miles than you have actually traveled.
Tire width has zero effect on vehicle stability. CG height, sidewall height, sidewall stiffness, and track width make the difference. All the tires he looked at were the same diameter, so the sidewall height was the same. Sidewall stiffness may have been different, but that's unlikely since they were the same model of tire. He's keeping the stock rims, so the track width isn't changing. Both options were taller than the factory tires, so he is raising the CG slightly. Either way he goes he will have the same stability, just slightly less than stock.
Never put a BF Goodrich all terrain T/A on a heavy vehicle. If you do, you will only get 25 to 30 thousand miles out of them. Maybe this DT tire fixes the issue. Switching to the Cooper Discoverer ST (and now the ST Max), solved the problem for me.
Harder compound will last longer but not "flex" as well in colder temps. I change tires. In my 20-plus years almost everyone with that model Suburban goes with the 265. they seem to like that 1
From experience please don't go with the narrower tires. My 2001 GMC had narrow tires and every time I go to do something like get a stack of wood or pull off the road I would sink and have to get help to pull the beast out. With the factory tires my truck would go all the way to the axles. Now I have gone with wider tires no more sinking and a lot better ride.
@Robert Manning Another thing this guy needs to be aware of, don’t worry about a rougher ride!!! If you don’t put a 10ply tire on that Suburban, you won’t get a normal years worth of driving out of those tires!!! I mistakenly had a set of B F GOODRICH Long Trail 4ply Tires in the 265/75/16 tire size put on my truck(they had a 50,000 mile warranty on them as well) and they were just shy of bald when I had to replace them in LESS THAN A YEAR!!!! I would not have thrown my money away like that if I had know that they were only a 4ply tire!!!! On a vehicle like his Suburban or my F-150, tire size is not the only consideration!!! These vehicles weigh more than normal passenger cars, so having a tire with a *’P’* rating put on a vehicle that weighs over 5,000lbs curb weight is the wrong type of tire for that vehicle!!!! Don’t buy a tire solely on its tread life warranty!!!! But tires that are rated for the vehicle weight that you are putting those tires on!!! Where I live, the roads are filled with potholes, up and down grades with curves thrown in there and the normal everyday passenger car tire will not hold up to that kind of punishment on a truck!!! With the EXCEPTION of the 4ply tires that I bought not realizing that they were only 4ply; I have never had any tires with less that 8ply on this truck and I never should have focused on the per tire price and warranty for that set of tires!!! What I will focus on now and will as long as I continue to own this truck or any like it in the future, is the number of plys of steel belts and rubber between my truck and the road!!! The B F Goodrich tires I have on my truck now are 10ply KO2’s!!! They are noisy, but I’ve already had them on my truck for the better part of 2 years and other than some minor cupping, they appear to have nearly the same tread depth they had when I purchased them!!!
Yes. I run a set of K02’s on my 150 10ply with an E load rating. They have been great tires I have put over 80000km on them in 3.5 years with a mix of regular driving and towing a travel trailer. I am at the point where I need to think about replacing them and I will buy the K02 again.
I run the mastercraft 10 ply courser cxts 1 level below the mud terrain and yes thats also because I already own the 10 ply mud terrains mtxs, and have a Goodyear 8 ply Goodyear all terrain authority radials for during the summer, 265 75 r 16 10 ply is always the way to go
When I was still working the truck I drove with those thread designs had a fair amount of road noise! Also they were ok with snow but faur on ice! BF Goodrich makes a Dueler Rugged Terrain tire with softer compound, thread design with a few inches rain water on the road it doesn't hydrofoil. It grips in snow very well and the softer compound grips the ice better not like chains of course. The thread is very deep 15/16 of an inch. In my Tacoma 4x4 I have driven over Spooner Pass (7,143 ft alt coming home in Lake Tahoe) with 1 1/2 ft of snow on the road keeping a steady 30 mph in total control. I kept the speed for the occasional snow drifts. I didn't change the 245/75R16 tires as when turning to the stop on rough terrain, the tires scuffed on the bumps already.
That depends on what's on the road. When roads arnt plowed I've found a little fatter tire bits a little better. Even though you float on top of it better. But yes in most cases the skinnier tire is better. But I'd say just go with a 10.5 wide snow tire (assuming it's a suv or truck) and you cant complain with that
My 90 GMC 4X4 has used 265/75 16 since the day it was born. I will not change from stock. Got 400,000 miles on this; I am the original owner. I carry 5 matching wheels, 5 good tires.
I run 265/75R16s (load range E) on my 2500 GMC Suburban. It looks like a beast and I love it. I have had people randomly tell me that it looks good that way.
Did basically the same thing to my 04 Exploder. Whatever the stick width was I found a tire that was the same but went from a 65 aspect to an 85. Looked night and day better. May have also contributed to the trans exploding, who knows.
265/75 for the wider, safer footprint, and smoother ride. Make sure you figure out the pressure for your specific truck. The pressure marked on the sidewall says MAXIMUM (at so many pounds of weight), not ideal/specific pressure. If your truck weighs whatever the maximum weight is marked on the sidewall at each corner (i.e. 4500 lbs.) then you run the maximum pressure indicated if your truck actually weighs 4500 lbs at each corner. I drive new tires onto the wet surface of a car wash and then onto the dry surface to make a print. Then I measure shoulder to shoulder on the tire and compare that to the print on the surface. I lower the tire pressure until the width of the tire and footprint match or are within 1/4." You must monitor the tread wear from shoulder to shoulder and use a depth gauge at each shoulder and the center to make sure the wear is even. If center is of the tread is not as thick as the shoulders the tire is wearing more in the center because you have a bit too much pressure; air it down some. If the center is thicker than the shoulders air it up a bit and continue monitering the wear. In addition to mintoring the wear you are visually inspecting the tires for damage and other problems not seen if you do not pay attention. The trick above can be accomplished with a large peice of cardboard and paint also. Simply raise the tire and paint the tread, rotate the painted portion down, and lower tire onto the cardboard with all the weight of your truck on the cardboard. Raise the tire and measure as noted above and adjust pressure as needed. Please note that the front tires will measure differently than rear because the front is typically heavier. Thus, you must measure the front tires, then measure rear and make sure you record your final pressure, normal working pressure. If carry a load other than normal from time time to time, such as carrying lumber or cement blocks to your job site make sure you conduct the process at least on the rear tires and record that pressure so you can use it when ever you load your turck more than normal. The above trick will make your truck ride very nice and safe because you have the entire tread on the pavement/ground. Finally, do not fall for the, "You're tires need air" narrative from tire "specialists", or in the case of my hot grilfriend, old horny guys always offering to air up the tires. You conducted the tests for your particular truck with the particular tires you chose. New tires are the best time to do this because the edges of the tires are nice and sharp. You can do this with used tires, but the edges may be rounded so you must guess-timate where the edge would be, usually the center of the rounded edge. Make sure you monitor with a depth gauge and air pressure. I yield back the soap box...
Same. My beast PERFORMED so much better. Those little tires aren’t gonna last very long with that weight he’s got. She needs some meat on them bones; The more the cushion the more pushin’ lol
I ran this size on my 01 Tahoe. As heavy as it is ,I was happy with the traction off road. A skinny tire digs to much with all that wait in the winter on my soft ground. Gass mileage sucked but didn't get stuck as much
Just because the tire has a name brand, does not mean they are actually made by their factory. The name brands also make generic tires. (They are supposed to be made by the total spec. Rubber and belt ).
Not quite the same but have been running 285/75R16 mud tires on a 1997 5.4 Expedition, no lift. 3.73 final drive and drives better than with the stock 245 or 265 tires.
All other things being equal, (inflation pressure and load) 235/85 series tires will make longer contact patches, 265/75 series will make wider contact patches. With that said, 235/85 do require more inflation pressure to carry the same load as 265/75, so if you're "dialing in" an optimal inflation pressure, the 235/85 will produce higher ground pressure due to higher inflation pressure. One nice thing about a 235/85 is that its load carrying capacity per inflation pressure matches your OE 245/75 tire, so you can continue to follow the recommended tire pressures for your vehicle and not have to re-calculate for the "oversized" tire, since, in terms of load carrying, it is not oversized at all. I think those suburbs called for 45PSI. A 265 would run better on that load ~40PSI, and going up to a 285/75 would run better at 35PSI.
My factory size is 265/70/16. I went with 235/85/16 and had no loss in mileage or noticed power. I have a 97 4runner. It is hard finding different tires. Toyotas run best on a taller, thinner tire, contrary to popular belief. The only time a wider tire is worth it is on loose sand (beach/desert) or in snow trails where you want to "float" on the snow.
I have a Grand Marquis that calls for 225/60R16. For the winter I would want to use 235s for traction and rolling resistance on slick roads and 235s wouldn’t make such a big difference compared to 225s. I would want to stay close to stock so I don’t have to radically modify and throw things off too much.
@Miller Killer 64 Sorry, as I also own a 2003 cvpi, snow tires are best thinner then wider on the road. 235 is a wider tire offering better handling in dry road conditions. 225 is better. Snow tires, inherently are thinner then the same size all season tire. This allows it to cut through the snow/slush and reach the pavement to get more traction as apposed to floating on top of it. All 4 should be snow tires too. It can be scary having just snows on the rear. My wider tire comment for snow is for OFF ROAD only, where the roads are unplowed and a suggestion of where to be, not on road.
Thicker tires do look amazing but thinner tires cut like butter in the snow. Also thicker off road tires are just that. If your on dry road these tires are amazing. Once it starts to rain be careful not to slip. Going 40-45 miles one a simple curve on the road can cause your vehicle to skid.
Use 33x10.5R15 BFG ATs on Jeep TJ Wrangler w/ 3" lift and the best tires ever used. Love those pizza cutters and they perform better on snow & ice as they don't have the "hockey puck effect" of the 12.5" wide tires.
From a 2018 BFG website conversation: BFG: The BFG Team has redesigned the 6 sizes of the KO2 with the most wear Issues that go on HD (Heavy Duty) Trucks, and is adding a 50k mileage warranty because of a new sturdier tread compound. Unfortunately, these sizes won’t have the 3 Peak Mtn. Snowflake for severe weather conditions. · These more robust sizes will be called the KO2 DT and 2 sizes will be out in July, and the other 4 sizes will release in August. They will have new MSPNs.
i have to comment about BFGoodrich vs. Falken tires. I ran the BFG AT/KO tires for years. Tire lifespan was mediocre, at best, and traction in mud or snow left a lot to be desired unless you really get off on spinning your tires on every slightly damp patch of pavement. Off-road, all I can say is: failure to execute. Last set I bought Falken tires - for about 20% less than BFGs. I'm still at 60% tread after 3 years and 30k miles, and traction is a little better. I'll never buy the overpriced BFGs again. From my perspective they are overhyped, they underperform and they just don't last. YMMV.
265/75R16 is the factory size for the Z71 package. I have a set of them on my 98, usually get 60-80K out of a set driving mostly highway. On my 4th set, love them.
My 95 k1500 is not a z71 and it came stock with 265/75R16. With a 2in lift 285/75r16 are perfect. Almost no difference in mpg. 235's are a waste of money. I stopped running big years ago they suck in the rain. Nitto's or toyo's are way better in all conditions.
I know this is late to the game but I have the 265/75R16 on my 99 Tahoe (stock is also 245/75R16) and I really enjoy the look and the extra 1/2 inch extra ride height
The 235s wouldn’t do very good in sand or mud. If you’re set on true pizza cutters look into the 255/85/16 rubber comes out to 33/10/16. Keeps you a little taller and you’re in the middle. Air down and you’ll have plenty of width for traction.
This is only true if there's something to bite down there. And with the 8 in of ground clearance he has this would never become a factor. Skinny tires are never the option. I work in construction and I can tell you lgp tires are the way to go. There is never a scenario where less contact patch gives you more traction.
Hello, I am a french Guy and I discover this video juste now. I have a Toyota Land cruiser Prado 1998 . Normaly the size is 2656516 but since more than 10 years I drive with 2358516. The 2358516 are the best for the track because not too large and the traction is more concentrated on the grip of the tire. But on the motorway sometimes you Can loose a little the control if the road is slippery. I think I will decide to put 2657516 in the future to be cool on motorway and it will do the job on the track👍 😉
Either one of those tires is going to be noisier than what you are running. Also, (for everyone) always check the mfg dates on the tires before you allow them to be installed. Make sure they or within a year of mfg.
@@densilcardna Maybe we are talking 2 different things. NEVER buy a new tire that is more than a year past it's mfg date. I never saw that mentioned in any owners manual but not something I'd look for. I had tread separation on a set of Uniroyal's once. Because they were less than 5 years past mfg date, they replaced them for free. They were about half wore out. 3 years old.
Tread pattern is important for your planned usage. I also took tire weight into account. Adding more unsprung weight will slow down your vehicle. I went with Cooper AT/W for my Wrangler and Kumho for my 03 Tahoe.
I've ran lots of 235/85/16 over the years and love them as to the triple snow flake rating it because the compound is harder and confirms less to imperfections in the road surface
Does the E rating in the 235’s provide a stiff ride deflated off-road? It will be for a Ford Ranger on 17’s. Or would the E’s flex due to the tire being more narrow?
softer compounds are used for winter tires as the cold makes the rubber stiffen up. a softer compound retains the flexibility to retain traction. when they made it a stiffer compound to last longer it went away from snow ability but gained it durability in hotter weather(ie softer tires burn out faster in heat)
At my age it don't matter anyhow, ah, what was I talking about? I'll have another cup of coffee, was it important? Oh never mind. Ya know there was a time, time, bed time I think. nite
If you want taller and narrow, I believe BFG still makes a 255/85R16. Taller than both of those and still narrower than the 265. Of your 2 choices, I would go with the 265.
The 85 series tire is what I buy, 215-235-255 they all work awesome and 99% of the time you can only buy them in ten ply, I go have all three of them on vehicles that I own, I also run 285/75r16 when looking for a larger size
I personally run a 235/85R16 mud claw on a 1985 chevy c30 dually. You tend to find the 235/85R16 on a lot of dually trucks like tow trucks, small box trucks, and service trucks.
Normally I like a big fat tires but I'm with you! go with the skinny, back in the day ranchers always had tall skinny tires so they could get down below the mud and grab hard dirt!
I got 285/65/R18s on my 1999 Chevy suburban. Everyone said it couldn’t be done. It easily cleared without rubbing, but would slightly scrape the top with big bumps. This cleared after adjusting the torsion bars 1 inch and placing a 1 inch block on the back
I went from 245-75-R16 to 265-75-R16 in my 94 Chevy. The amount of stability and traction i gained was tremendous. Gas mileage was only like 1/3mpg worse for me and the speedometer is only 2mph slower. But all-in-all who cares as long as it looks good lmao!
I just bought falken tires 285-75-16 which is almost a 33 and almost a 10 inch tire. I am going to "add a leaf" spring to the rear and do a 4 inch lift to my 96 burb. Tires are awesome and can't wait for the lift.
Oregon here. I have a 2003 F-150 Supercrew I have and will always run BFG KO II's 265/75/17" 10 ply rating because of sharp rocks in the Outback's of our state. Heavy but durable. Gas mileage is a tradeoff. Great in snow. When newish in soft soil they will bury you fast. Have a winch and some buddies nearby.
All the old farmers in the midwest used SRW's with tall skinnies or pizza cutters for anything in the field. Duallies are just for hauling trailers, take them into the field and they'll be spinning. Fat tires are just for looks. The thin ones work just as well if not better, and the fit without rubbing.
With a more narrow tire you get less traction and less stability, and your vehicle can easily flip over in an emergency manuver, such as avoiding a pot hole or animal in the roadway..Also, it will wear out faster because the weight of the vehicle is concentrated in a smaller area vs a wider tire that's able to distribute the weight of the vehicle more evenly 🤠
For anyone reading this 2 years later, 235/85s are very old school and they work very well. My Wyoming rancher grandfather exclusively ran this size on all his pickups and he was the most practical man I ever knew. I personally had a 95 Chevy Cheyenne and ran the 265/75 on it. Loved them and the proportions were perfect with stock suspension. Ultimately, it comes down to what look you personally like better because they are both great sizes for this size/generation of truck.
I have all season tires on my car. Very good if you don't drive many kilometers per year. So don't look only the size of the tires. Greetings from Germany. Your channel is very good! Thanks!
Here’s a 4 year update on the tires: th-cam.com/video/niIG7e_wK8E/w-d-xo.html
your 95 suburban..looks great 👍🏽
I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Australia, a big factor when choosing a size for an overlanding rig, is to choose the most common option, so you can get a replacement wherever you go. 265/75 is available in almost every brand, whereas 235/85 is very limited.
Exactly, imagine stuck out at Windorah waiting for a new tyre
Exactly
You could just get the closest size available until your back home to order 235/85
I am in the US but I consider that as well my truck came with a 245/75 but will fit 285/75 without much issues but the 265/75 is easier to find so that is what I run
@@MrMarkguth Oh yeah, or Narnia even.
I had those 235/85 16's on my 3rd gen 4runner and I loved them. Yes, they looked skinny when compared to all the other guys on the trail rides. But they worked so well and I didn't have to cut any bodywork or need to change wheels or modify the suspension.
You don't have to cut, or bend anything to run 265/75r16s. You "may have to" for 285/75r16s. But from the factory, 265/75r16s don't rub even at full flex with the sway bar removed.
@@Slking507Will they fit a stock hilux?
Back in the 1970's we were loggers in western Montana. We always used tall skinny tires on our work pickups and would we would go circles around pickups with wide fat tires, especially in snow and ice..
Had to switch from 265 bf to 235 bf on my landrover defender …bigger tires caused a lot of steering wobbling …solved it with 235 bf mud terrain …great steering …lighter …better gas mileage….great performance too …love your channel jimmy 👍🏼
Any good off-road instructor will tell you that the 235/85/16 is the gold standard! Especially for the Defender!!! The bigger A.Ts will quickly make a lot of noise on the road as soon as they are a third worn and do not have the 3pmsf approval which authorizes to be driven on snow (in Europe it is the law) and M.S will not tell you not allow, even if the tires have a good performance! In addition, as Jimmy says so well, the bigger ones have a harder rubber, so good for the lifespan but less good for snow, mud, and much noisier... so, apart from the look, I don't see any interest.
Personally I'd get the round one, say what you will but a round one has always been my choice. And the rounder the better.
Triangular tires will soon be the norm, and then we will all have the ride that we demand.
Lol 😆 yes....
Yup, get the round ones
I prefer black. Like my soul. But to each their own I guess.
Round tires are now offensive so yes the rounder the better!
I run the tallest and narrowest tire i can. Never had a problem with traction and narrower is less resistance off road or on road helping fuel economy. Also if your spare fits underneath your truck narrower hangs down less. One more thing if you go off road alot airing up and down takes less time with narrower tires. It sounds crazy but a few minutes per tire adds up.
5 1/2 minutes into an 8:50 video and i’m still wondering what we should do before buying tires. This vid is a waste of time.
He does more babbling about nothing!
Will you please shut the hell up!
Excessive diarrhea of the mouth.
He has to be a salesman.
I forgot why I was watching it
Michael Cowan He's a photographer.
As are the few others he has out. Always check the comments before wasting time watching.
In the snow belt we routinely go one size narrower and one size taller to get the same diameter, and better traction on snow.
Bfg KO2,s are snow rated. The all eat snow.
I think i should do that for my forester.
@@juliosdiy3206 did my research, and I am completely happy with Gerneral Altimax Rt43 on my AWD RAV4.. I was considering going with two separate sets of tires, all season and then a set of winter tires. Went with the Generals and couldn't be happier with all around performance in all conditions. I read, at that time I bought mine, make sure they are the Altimax RT43, not the regular Altimax. I even go on some trails for camping, not serious off road trails, but they sometimes get muddy. I haven't had a problem yet after a few years with them. I have used BFG AT's , and also some Firestone tires on previous 4 wheel drive vehicles that sadly disappointed during winter months.
I took a chance on Falken Wildpeak AT3W's for my Z71 Sierra (stock size 265/75/16) 2 years ago. They're still over half tread. Besides the Bilstein 5100's shocks, these tires are the best upgrade I've ever made to my truck🤘.
I have this size on my dodge Cummins. Chinese tires called " capital. Found the receipt yesterday. 9 years old now but nearing replacement stage.also I don't put on a lot of miles each year.
Got these brand new on a 2022 rubicon jeep gladiator 285/70R17 so far fantastic in the snow ❄ and ice. Too busy working to test out off road in summer...yet.
Been running the 265's on my Tahoe since I got it. Compares and performs as equal to my buddies with big overkill tires. Never got stuck and actually pulled them out of mud and snow with ease. Stock 4x4 by the way.
If you've never been stuck, especially stock truck, then you've never been 4 wheeling. EVERYTHING can and will get stuck
I'd go with the 235-85.
They are lighter, and I like the look.
Also it'll be better in the snow. (Although the winter rating may not seem as important as a long mileage warranty, one accident avoidance changes all of that).
Try the Mickey Thompson all terrain 255/85 17r’s. They are a 10” wide 34” tall tire.
I just saw this video, im like you on thinner tires they do grab the Ground better to me wider tires tend to float on surfaces and not get good traction thinner tires are the way to go and will get you out of problems better ,good video strat safe good bless
I'm running 265/75r16 on my suburban and I have no complaints. My father is running the 235/85r16 of his dually and he likes the way it steers.
The 235 85 is usually used for duallys. That's why you didn't see much about it.
FTR..
235 75 is what my 95 econoline has.
Great to know that tire size actually exists. I like narrow tires myself and almost impossible to find in that height. I'd love that on 33's.
Just glad to see you doing a real world build instead of starting with a $70k bare SUV.
I noticed those new BFG tires are slightly taller than stock... so your speedometer will be slightly off so you won’t get accurate miles per gallon.
the best way to find what tire pressure to run is wet your tread with water, drive over dry concrete and check to make sure your entire tread is touching the ground... I personally think 45 is way too high of pressure for any set up... I run 30 psi in my 33x12.5x15 on my jeep cherokee... lastly lift blocks aren’t the best way to lift a rig used for off-roading/overlanding, only real way to lift a rig is to put actual lift springs in, you get too much axle wrap with lift blocks
Went from 265/75/16 KO2 to 235/85/16 KO2 both 32” on my Tacoma TRD Offroad and what a difference. Better performance all around except in deep loose sand. Even 2mpg better in fuel consumption. No going back to wide tires. Some tell me they don’t like the look, I just say I don’t hang out at the mall. I want performance. Though for your bigger/heavier rig I might go with the 265.
My 92 dodge cummins weighs more than 6000 pounds and a 235/85 works just fine. Forget about all the loosers running tires a foot wide. Fads change.
If you're staying clear of deep mud and soft sand, go for the skinnies, it's clear you understand the advantages. Though, mileage in my 95 sub isn't bad on the 265/70/16 I had on when staying down at the 55-60 mph range. It's still truck mileage, but comparable to the newer Chevy's.
kstricl. imgnation milage? 5.7. will not get more then 12-13mpg that is why those old 1995s have 42 gallon tanks
mind you my 6.0l. hybrid gets 24-25.5. on the highway. the highest ever was 26.7mpg hyw
My 94 tbi 4x4 can get 16 on the highway if you go 55 to 60.
My favorit tire is 235 85 16.... Amazing on ice and snow... More pounds per square inch... Wide tires suck in the winter...
My dads 99 suburban is on 265 75, and it seems perfectly fine doing the off roading he does with it
I was in the same boat for the last couple weeks. I went with 265 70 17
I told myself it would corner slightly better with less sidewall while still keeping enough to look proper for a 89 obs
Like the Suburban! I have a '94 Silverado and I have always ran 265. All I can say is, it's your project and you do what you want
The skinnys will do much better in the snow. They will get down to the pavement instead of floating on top .
Old men taught me this. Now I’m the old man!
When you check you mileage make Sure you take into consideration the odometer (actual miles vs shown miles)and speedometer difference with the new tires.(don’t get a ticket)
You will be traveling 3 mph faster wit the new tires (at 65 you will be traveling 68 mph. Also in an hour your odometer will show 3 miles less per hour.which will lower you mpg calculation)
This guy talks more than my girlfriend
Ewk VLOGS The first time I ever heard him I thought the same thing. LOL 😂
Is her name Carmen?
He should go away and talk about tampons, emotions, and relationships.
But does he put out like your girl is the ?
Cant imagine this guy on blow
265/75/16 my friend, got them on my 95 K1500 10 ply truck does great! Rob.
im buying 5 years tires from tire4coin
Keep in mind when you go to a different size tire and stiffer sidewall load that the factory recommended tire pressure may go out the door, you may need to adjust your tire pressure without going over the tires max pressure, I use the chalk method and an open parking lot, of course this will change when carrying a load or towing, just a thought
What's the chalk method?
@@a-dog8075 find a flat open area like a parking lot or your street, take a piece of chalk and shade a line in one or two spots completely across the tire tread from side to side, drive forward and back as straight as possible without turning, look at your chalk lines, if the center of your chalk lines are worn down or gone and the sides are not then the tire may be over inflated for the weight of the vehicle, what I look for is the even wear across the chalk line, I noticed on my truck that I could see light under the edges of my back tires while setting in the driveway, my truck is empty most of the time, I adjusted the tire pressure using this method to get even tire wear, keep in mind that to little air pressure can overheat a tire too, I hope this helps you
"my truck doesn't have much power so I want to put on a taller tire", Me... scratching my head
Lol this whole video gave me a headache, i have a 89 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, came with a 145hp 280ft lbs torque 5.9 liter engine, yes 145hp thanks to 70s emissions bs.. But its got plenty of power for 31-33-35 inch tires, you just have to regear the diff's.
Yeah, that sounds like twisted logic. If it's only an inch taller I don't think it would make too much of a difference. 🤔
@@slomotrainwreck
I think it is the wider tire being the issue when relating to rolling resistance.
A narrow tire will be lighter at the OD meaning it has a lower polar moment of inertia, therefore it will take less HP to spin. The tires all have the same outer diameter (more or less) and the polar moment of inertia makes more of a difference on acceleration.
"I want something that looks factory". So put on the factory size.
Same,i would like to later put on 285/65R17 on my 4 gen Toyota 4runner but still keep the factory look
Factory size doesn't tend to look factory once you've lifted it some.
@@hannahranga don't think of lifting my 4runner but keeping it stock.
Factory is 245 75 16. You only get less gas mileage, you have less pep as well.
Wrong
i ran both on my 90 sub 235/85/16 were the stock size i liked them ran that truck for 500k before it retired all on road they were great in the snow less push
There are some pluses for the 235's. #1 they are easier on the wheel bearings, #2 they will last a bit longer and they will do better in the snow. Most of the comments here refer to the looks which is ok but I also like a tires performance.
Absolutely skinnier tire with an aggressive tread does better in snow, more weight on a smaller contact patch. Cheaper price.
Absolutely. Pizza cutters rule when performance trumps fashion...........unless you also like the skinny look like I do. Win-win.
Will 235’s load range E flex pretty good deflated or ride stiff since it’s an E tire, light vehicle like a Ranger
My experience has been the complete opposite of that. Fatter tires have done much better for me in snow, sand, mud conditions hmmmmm
All that and he went with the wider tires 😂🤦♂️
@@Fordgroup00 Science says narrow tires do better in the snow in most conditions. Google is your friend.
It depends on where you drive and how old you are. After all if you live somewhere the weather is mostly mild than smaller and harder is a better deal. If your fifty or older your going to find climbing to get in the truck a burden. The thing is take all things in consideration not just what looks good bang for the buck is often misinterpreted.
Was rooting for 235. Skinny all the way.
I am due for new tires and have a raptor that comes stock with ko2s I well definitely ask the dealer about the dt tires . Good catch brother
I always go 1-2 sizes wider for trucks and SUVs. They're already top heavy so stock and skinnier tires can cause problems in emergency maneuvers leading to a roll over.
My 06 Silverado came with 245/70-17, but it has 18" rims (09 rims). Previously had 265/65-18 but that meant the speedo was off due to being taller. So with new tires I went with 265/60-18 which is same height as stock but a full 1" wider and I love how it runs and drives now. Better grip, less roll under on corners, and slightly better mileage (average 17mpg city with 5.3L and NV3500).
Don't mistake me, I'm not calling you a liar or anything but, it doesn't make sense that a wider tire could improve mileage. Wider tire = more tread on the road = more friction = lower mpg. I don't know, perhaps you are getting slightly better mpg but, it doesn't make any sense to me.
I think fatter is safer. Intuitively
The reason you're getting 'better' mileage is because your new tires are slightly smaller diameter than your last tires, with 159 mm sidewalls as compared to 172.25 mm sidewall. Your speedo is still calibrated at XXX revolutions per mile, but each revolution is smaller. Basically, unless you recalibrated your speedo, the odometer is also off, showing more miles than you have actually traveled.
Tire width has zero effect on vehicle stability. CG height, sidewall height, sidewall stiffness, and track width make the difference. All the tires he looked at were the same diameter, so the sidewall height was the same. Sidewall stiffness may have been different, but that's unlikely since they were the same model of tire. He's keeping the stock rims, so the track width isn't changing. Both options were taller than the factory tires, so he is raising the CG slightly. Either way he goes he will have the same stability, just slightly less than stock.
Maybe he meant better mpg than with the taller tire?
Never put a BF Goodrich all terrain T/A on a heavy vehicle. If you do, you will only get 25 to 30 thousand miles out of them.
Maybe this DT tire fixes the issue. Switching to the Cooper Discoverer ST (and now the ST Max), solved the problem for me.
Harder compound will last longer but not "flex" as well in colder temps. I change tires. In my 20-plus years almost everyone with that model Suburban goes with the 265. they seem to like that 1
I went tinner on my 2020 Tacoma with AT3 Toyo Open Country and loving it. Better gas mileage and much better acceleration
From experience please don't go with the narrower tires. My 2001 GMC had narrow tires and every time I go to do something like get a stack of wood or pull off the road I would sink and have to get help to pull the beast out. With the factory tires my truck would go all the way to the axles. Now I have gone with wider tires no more sinking and a lot better ride.
Yep. For the regular user (multi use vehicle) a decent width is the best all around option.
Be happy that he didn't go on to talk about the air that goes in the tires.
Go with 265 in the long run they'll give you better overall performance and stability.
@Robert Manning
Another thing this guy needs to be aware of, don’t worry about a rougher ride!!!
If you don’t put a 10ply tire on that Suburban, you won’t get a normal years worth of driving out of those tires!!!
I mistakenly had a set of B F GOODRICH Long Trail 4ply Tires in the 265/75/16 tire size put on my truck(they had a 50,000 mile warranty on them as well) and they were just shy of bald when I had to replace them in LESS THAN A YEAR!!!!
I would not have thrown my money away like that if I had know that they were only a 4ply tire!!!!
On a vehicle like his Suburban or my F-150, tire size is not the only consideration!!!
These vehicles weigh more than normal passenger cars, so having a tire with a *’P’* rating put on a vehicle that weighs over 5,000lbs curb weight is the wrong type of tire for that vehicle!!!!
Don’t buy a tire solely on its tread life warranty!!!!
But tires that are rated for the vehicle weight that you are putting those tires on!!!
Where I live, the roads are filled with potholes, up and down grades with curves thrown in there and the normal everyday passenger car tire will not hold up to that kind of punishment on a truck!!!
With the EXCEPTION of the 4ply tires that I bought not realizing that they were only 4ply; I have never had any tires with less that 8ply on this truck and I never should have focused on the per tire price and warranty for that set of tires!!!
What I will focus on now and will as long as I continue to own this truck or any like it in the future, is the number of plys of steel belts and rubber between my truck and the road!!!
The B F Goodrich tires I have on my truck now are 10ply KO2’s!!! They are noisy, but I’ve already had them on my truck for the better part of 2 years and other than some minor cupping, they appear to have nearly the same tread depth they had when I purchased them!!!
Should last longer too if you keep proper inflation and alignment
Yes. I run a set of K02’s on my 150 10ply with an E load rating. They have been great tires I have put over 80000km on them in 3.5 years with a mix of regular driving and towing a travel trailer. I am at the point where I need to think about replacing them and I will buy the K02 again.
I run the mastercraft 10 ply courser cxts 1 level below the mud terrain and yes thats also because I already own the 10 ply mud terrains mtxs, and have a Goodyear 8 ply Goodyear all terrain authority radials for during the summer, 265 75 r 16 10 ply is always the way to go
When I was still working the truck I drove with those thread designs had a fair amount of road noise! Also they were ok with snow but faur on ice! BF Goodrich makes a Dueler Rugged Terrain tire with softer compound, thread design with a few inches rain water on the road it doesn't hydrofoil. It grips in snow very well and the softer compound grips the ice better not like chains of course. The thread is very deep 15/16 of an inch. In my Tacoma 4x4 I have driven over Spooner Pass (7,143 ft alt coming home in Lake Tahoe) with 1 1/2 ft of snow on the road keeping a steady 30 mph in total control. I kept the speed for the occasional snow drifts. I didn't change the 245/75R16 tires as when turning to the stop on rough terrain, the tires scuffed on the bumps already.
Skinnier tires more pounds per square inch on the ground.
Skinnier tires actually work well in winter..
That depends on what's on the road. When roads arnt plowed I've found a little fatter tire bits a little better. Even though you float on top of it better. But yes in most cases the skinnier tire is better. But I'd say just go with a 10.5 wide snow tire (assuming it's a suv or truck) and you cant complain with that
@@MrMuffanga donut spares all the way around!!
Kidding 😂
Same reason tractor’s use skinny tires they have more traction they dig in the dirt better.
@@THETRUEKING12 more pounds per square inch.. Why is the chevron pattern on the tire reversed?
@@THETRUEKING12 That Suburban isn't a tractor. It is used for a whole bunch of thing that tractor would never do.
My 90 GMC 4X4 has used 265/75 16 since the day it was born. I will not change from stock. Got 400,000 miles on this; I am the original owner.
I carry 5 matching wheels, 5 good tires.
I run 265/75R16s (load range E) on my 2500 GMC Suburban. It looks like a beast and I love it. I have had people randomly tell me that it looks good that way.
I went with the 265/75 as well. I really like them and some tires look skinny off the rack and will fatten up once on the rim.
I run 265 75 16s on my 2000 Silverado and they look great and ive never had any issues.
The 235/85R16 is a phenomenal tire size. Does great in snow and shallower mud.
Did basically the same thing to my 04 Exploder. Whatever the stick width was I found a tire that was the same but went from a 65 aspect to an 85. Looked night and day better. May have also contributed to the trans exploding, who knows.
Exploder. 🙂
265/75 for the wider, safer footprint, and smoother ride. Make sure you figure out the pressure for your specific truck.
The pressure marked on the sidewall says MAXIMUM (at so many pounds of weight), not ideal/specific pressure. If your truck weighs whatever the maximum weight is marked on the sidewall at each corner (i.e. 4500 lbs.) then you run the maximum pressure indicated if your truck actually weighs 4500 lbs at each corner.
I drive new tires onto the wet surface of a car wash and then onto the dry surface to make a print. Then I measure shoulder to shoulder on the tire and compare that to the print on the surface. I lower the tire pressure until the width of the tire and footprint match or are within 1/4."
You must monitor the tread wear from shoulder to shoulder and use a depth gauge at each shoulder and the center to make sure the wear is even. If center is of the tread is not as thick as the shoulders the tire is wearing more in the center because you have a bit too much pressure; air it down some.
If the center is thicker than the shoulders air it up a bit and continue monitering the wear. In addition to mintoring the wear you are visually inspecting the tires for damage and other problems not seen if you do not pay attention.
The trick above can be accomplished with a large peice of cardboard and paint also. Simply raise the tire and paint the tread, rotate the painted portion down, and lower tire onto the cardboard with all the weight of your truck on the cardboard. Raise the tire and measure as noted above and adjust pressure as needed.
Please note that the front tires will measure differently than rear because the front is typically heavier. Thus, you must measure the front tires, then measure rear and make sure you record your final pressure, normal working pressure. If carry a load other than normal from time time to time, such as carrying lumber or cement blocks to your job site make sure you conduct the process at least on the rear tires and record that pressure so you can use it when ever you load your turck more than normal. The above trick will make your truck ride very nice and safe because you have the entire tread on the pavement/ground.
Finally, do not fall for the, "You're tires need air" narrative from tire "specialists", or in the case of my hot grilfriend, old horny guys always offering to air up the tires. You conducted the tests for your particular truck with the particular tires you chose. New tires are the best time to do this because the edges of the tires are nice and sharp. You can do this with used tires, but the edges may be rounded so you must guess-timate where the edge would be, usually the center of the rounded edge. Make sure you monitor with a depth gauge and air pressure.
I yield back the soap box...
285/75r16👌
Same. My beast PERFORMED so much better. Those little tires aren’t gonna last very long with that weight he’s got. She needs some meat on them bones; The more the cushion the more pushin’ lol
Haha yessir
I ran this size on my 01 Tahoe. As heavy as it is ,I was happy with the traction off road. A skinny tire digs to much with all that wait in the winter on my soft ground. Gass mileage sucked but didn't get stuck as much
Just because the tire has a name brand, does not mean they are actually made by their factory.
The name brands also make generic tires. (They are supposed to be made by the total spec. Rubber and belt ).
Do the 265/75/16 it will help in turning and body roll.
Not quite the same but have been running 285/75R16 mud tires on a 1997 5.4 Expedition, no lift. 3.73 final drive and drives better than with the stock 245 or 265 tires.
All other things being equal, (inflation pressure and load) 235/85 series tires will make longer contact patches, 265/75 series will make wider contact patches.
With that said, 235/85 do require more inflation pressure to carry the same load as 265/75, so if you're "dialing in" an optimal inflation pressure, the 235/85 will produce higher ground pressure due to higher inflation pressure.
One nice thing about a 235/85 is that its load carrying capacity per inflation pressure matches your OE 245/75 tire, so you can continue to follow the recommended tire pressures for your vehicle and not have to re-calculate for the "oversized" tire, since, in terms of load carrying, it is not oversized at all. I think those suburbs called for 45PSI. A 265 would run better on that load ~40PSI, and going up to a 285/75 would run better at 35PSI.
My factory size is 265/70/16. I went with 235/85/16 and had no loss in mileage or noticed power. I have a 97 4runner. It is hard finding different tires. Toyotas run best on a taller, thinner tire, contrary to popular belief. The only time a wider tire is worth it is on loose sand (beach/desert) or in snow trails where you want to "float" on the snow.
I have a Grand Marquis that calls for 225/60R16. For the winter I would want to use 235s for traction and rolling resistance on slick roads and 235s wouldn’t make such a big difference compared to 225s. I would want to stay close to stock so I don’t have to radically modify and throw things off too much.
@Miller Killer 64 Sorry, as I also own a 2003 cvpi, snow tires are best thinner then wider on the road.
235 is a wider tire offering better handling in dry road conditions. 225 is better. Snow tires, inherently are thinner then the same size all season tire. This allows it to cut through the snow/slush and reach the pavement to get more traction as apposed to floating on top of it. All 4 should be snow tires too. It can be scary having just snows on the rear.
My wider tire comment for snow is for OFF ROAD only, where the roads are unplowed and a suggestion of where to be, not on road.
@@slow_decay Oh. I get it
A guy i know put on 65s on his 94 burb they looked great and filled in the fender space nicely,he lijed very well
I prefer the narrower tire my self. I will be putting that on my 1999 Silverado 2500 pickup. Thanks for the video!
Thicker tires do look amazing but thinner tires cut like butter in the snow. Also thicker off road tires are just that. If your on dry road these tires are amazing. Once it starts to rain be careful not to slip. Going 40-45 miles one a simple curve on the road can cause your vehicle to skid.
Id do the 265 because there wider with more traction/grip on and off road. Ready to see the finished project with the new tires!!!
Use 33x10.5R15 BFG ATs on Jeep TJ Wrangler w/ 3" lift and the best tires ever used.
Love those pizza cutters and they perform better on snow & ice as they don't have the "hockey puck effect" of the 12.5" wide tires.
From a 2018 BFG website conversation:
BFG: The BFG Team has redesigned the 6 sizes of the KO2 with the most wear Issues that go on HD (Heavy Duty) Trucks, and is adding a 50k mileage warranty because of a new sturdier tread compound. Unfortunately, these sizes won’t have the 3 Peak Mtn. Snowflake for severe weather conditions.
· These more robust sizes will be called the KO2 DT and 2 sizes will be out in July, and the other 4 sizes will release in August. They will have new MSPNs.
i have to comment about BFGoodrich vs. Falken tires. I ran the BFG AT/KO tires for years. Tire lifespan was mediocre, at best, and traction in mud or snow left a lot to be desired unless you really get off on spinning your tires on every slightly damp patch of pavement. Off-road, all I can say is: failure to execute. Last set I bought Falken tires - for about 20% less than BFGs. I'm still at 60% tread after 3 years and 30k miles, and traction is a little better. I'll never buy the overpriced BFGs again. From my perspective they are overhyped, they underperform and they just don't last. YMMV.
265/75R16 is the factory size for the Z71 package. I have a set of them on my 98, usually get 60-80K out of a set driving mostly highway. On my 4th set, love them.
You're talking BFGs?
@@1RoadGarage Yes, I have those exact tires. The KO2s, I had 2 sets of the original all terrains and I'm at the end of my second set of the KO2's.
My 95 k1500 is not a z71 and it came stock with 265/75R16. With a 2in lift 285/75r16 are perfect. Almost no difference in mpg. 235's are a waste of money. I stopped running big years ago they suck in the rain. Nitto's or toyo's are way better in all conditions.
I know this is late to the game but I have the 265/75R16 on my 99 Tahoe (stock is also 245/75R16) and I really enjoy the look and the extra 1/2 inch extra ride height
I love BF Goodrich but bought Hankook Dyna Pro AT's. They were rated better and look just as good with a quiet tread.
Wait til you get 10,000 miles and see.
Do you have an update on these tires? I'm considering them myself for my F150.
@@07Convertable I only kept the vehicle another year after buying the tires but will say they held up very well during that year with little wear.
I Truly Appreciate and Enjoy ALL of your videos Brother.
God Bless you and your Family.
The 235s wouldn’t do very good in sand or mud. If you’re set on true pizza cutters look into the 255/85/16 rubber comes out to 33/10/16. Keeps you a little taller and you’re in the middle.
Air down and you’ll have plenty of width for traction.
What he said!
How is everyone here not dying at your "who couldnt use an extra inch" line. You had me dying at your delivery. Love the K02's on my LX470.
Most definitely go with the thinner tire if you want to cut through the mud and snow a lot easier then the wider tire.
This is only true if there's something to bite down there. And with the 8 in of ground clearance he has this would never become a factor. Skinny tires are never the option. I work in construction and I can tell you lgp tires are the way to go. There is never a scenario where less contact patch gives you more traction.
Should've gone with the Falken. Better performing, specially in snow and wet.
I run the 265’s on my 93. I feel like they look better. Handle great.
Hello, I am a french Guy and I discover this video juste now. I have a Toyota Land cruiser Prado 1998 . Normaly the size is 2656516 but since more than 10 years I drive with 2358516. The 2358516 are the best for the track because not too large and the traction is more concentrated on the grip of the tire. But on the motorway sometimes you Can loose a little the control if the road is slippery. I think I will decide to put 2657516 in the future to be cool on motorway and it will do the job on the track👍 😉
Either one of those tires is going to be noisier than what you are running. Also, (for everyone) always check the mfg dates on the tires before you allow them to be installed. Make sure they or within a year of mfg.
The standard is within 5 years really.
@@densilcardna Oh he// no. 1 year. Only a fool would buy a 5 year old tire knowingly.
@@x-man5056 "Within". At least that's what the manual of every car I've owned said.
@@densilcardna Maybe we are talking 2 different things. NEVER buy a new tire that is more than a year past it's mfg date.
I never saw that mentioned in any owners manual but not something I'd look for.
I had tread separation on a set of Uniroyal's once. Because they were less than 5 years past mfg date, they replaced them for free. They were about half wore out. 3 years old.
Tread pattern is important for your planned usage. I also took tire weight into account. Adding more unsprung weight will slow down your vehicle. I went with Cooper AT/W for my Wrangler and Kumho for my 03 Tahoe.
265/75/16 would look good on it 👍🏻.
Bfgs are great for getting stuck on wet grass
If you're going with a skinnier tire, always make sure you know the load index rating. 235 should be able to carry the weight, but you gotta know.
235/85r16 only comes in 10ply so for ten ply 235 vs 265 the 235 will be cheaper
I've ran lots of 235/85/16 over the years and love them as to the triple snow flake rating it because the compound is harder and confirms less to imperfections in the road surface
Does the E rating in the 235’s provide a stiff ride deflated off-road? It will be for a Ford Ranger on 17’s. Or would the E’s flex due to the tire being more narrow?
Then why spend half the video of talking about the 235
Heavy_Haul_N_Fool he’s waiting for BFGoodrich to offer him a pair for free so that they can get advertising that he can review
softer compounds are used for winter tires as the cold makes the rubber stiffen up. a softer compound retains the flexibility to retain traction. when they made it a stiffer compound to last longer it went away from snow ability but gained it durability in hotter weather(ie softer tires burn out faster in heat)
265 were the standard for Z71 tires back during those years. 285 were a great upgrade.
I like the 265
@@1RoadGarage Yea, I run the 265 on my 97 GMC and my 2018 Colorado.
@@1RoadGarage I run the 265's on my 2002 Yukon SLT - great ride and handling...
I just went to 33x12.5x15 for my ‘16 Wrangler. I do have more power than a ‘95 Suburban, so in that respect I think you made the right choice.
"Who couldn't use an extra inch" lol :D
That's what she ssid
Haha yaahh
Wrench Groove if ya are lacking in height why not make up in girth right!!!!
@@sschevmale24 hahahaha! U beat me to it! now that's a that's what she said joke , unfortunately though lol
At my age it don't matter anyhow, ah, what was I talking about? I'll have another cup of coffee, was it important? Oh never mind. Ya know there was a time, time, bed time I think. nite
Why don't you mention the width of the rim? This is very important and could affect the choice of tire size!
16x8 would be a great option
If you want taller and narrow, I believe BFG still makes a 255/85R16. Taller than both of those and still narrower than the 265. Of your 2 choices, I would go with the 265.
The 85 series tire is what I buy, 215-235-255 they all work awesome and 99% of the time you can only buy them in ten ply, I go have all three of them on vehicles that I own, I also run 285/75r16 when looking for a larger size
I have to run 255/80/17 I wish I could still run 16s but upgrade brakes 🤷🏻
I personally run a 235/85R16 mud claw on a 1985 chevy c30 dually. You tend to find the 235/85R16 on a lot of dually trucks like tow trucks, small box trucks, and service trucks.
Normally I like a big fat tires but I'm with you! go with the skinny, back in the day ranchers always had tall skinny tires so they could get down below the mud and grab hard dirt!
I got 285/65/R18s on my 1999 Chevy suburban. Everyone said it couldn’t be done. It easily cleared without rubbing, but would slightly scrape the top with big bumps. This cleared after adjusting the torsion bars 1 inch and placing a 1 inch block on the back
I went from 245-75-R16 to 265-75-R16 in my 94 Chevy. The amount of stability and traction i gained was tremendous. Gas mileage was only like 1/3mpg worse for me and the speedometer is only 2mph slower. But all-in-all who cares as long as it looks good lmao!
I just bought falken tires 285-75-16 which is almost a 33 and almost a 10 inch tire. I am going to "add a leaf" spring to the rear and do a 4 inch lift to my 96 burb. Tires are awesome and can't wait for the lift.
The 265/75/16 is a standard tire for the newer Tacoma's (w/ 16" rim option*). So it's definitely going to be a very popular and widely available size.
Agree. My 2003 Tacoma TRD Offroad came with 265 /70 R 16. They are definitely a heavier tire
Oregon here. I have a 2003 F-150 Supercrew I have and will always run BFG KO II's 265/75/17" 10 ply rating because of sharp rocks in the Outback's of our state. Heavy but durable. Gas mileage is a tradeoff. Great in snow. When newish in soft soil they will bury you fast. Have a winch and some buddies nearby.
I had the Falken AT 2 and now the AT3. The new Falken AT 3. The AT3 is as good as the BFG. I get 265.
I'm running the AT3 265/65 17 Best tire ever!
All the old farmers in the midwest used SRW's with tall skinnies or pizza cutters for anything in the field. Duallies are just for hauling trailers, take them into the field and they'll be spinning. Fat tires are just for looks. The thin ones work just as well if not better, and the fit without rubbing.
With a more narrow tire you get less traction and less stability, and your vehicle can easily flip over in an emergency manuver, such as avoiding a pot hole or animal in the roadway..Also, it will wear out faster because the weight of the vehicle is concentrated in a smaller area vs a wider tire that's able to distribute the weight of the vehicle more evenly 🤠
i got my tires from tire4coin
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7:20 It's because the rubber is harder, harder rubber wears longer and yields better fuel economy but provides less traction.
Also, the harder tire will be more prone to skidding on wet pavement.
For anyone reading this 2 years later, 235/85s are very old school and they work very well. My Wyoming rancher grandfather exclusively ran this size on all his pickups and he was the most practical man I ever knew. I personally had a 95 Chevy Cheyenne and ran the 265/75 on it. Loved them and the proportions were perfect with stock suspension. Ultimately, it comes down to what look you personally like better because they are both great sizes for this size/generation of truck.
I have all season tires on my car. Very good if you don't drive many kilometers per year. So don't look only the size of the tires. Greetings from Germany. Your channel is very good! Thanks!