Basic Build Order | Drush Fast Castle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2019
- Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted in a while, I was just waiting to get 1080p videos. Now its all sorted so I should be putting up 2-3 videos a week. Going to be doing my build orders in 2 parts. This is the first part on drush fc, the second part will be coming next week! Let me know what you guys think in the comments below!
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Decent video, but for a basic one without eco bonuses used, I would recommend 32 pop so wouldn't need to idle TC at all.
For those who are wondering why it's 7 on wood initially, it's 6+1: 6 is the number for a new farm (60w) each ~25 sec = new villager, and 1 is the surplus for house-production and the necessary wall-costs. After aging up to Feudal, which takes 130 sec to research, one needs 8+ w-vills (some on stragglers here) because 175w+150w=325w is needed for a range and a blacksmith. So wood gathered is ~0,3w/s x 130s x 8 = 312w. 0,3 resources per second is a general approximation used for pretty much all non-boosted resource gathering.
Wow never thought about smth like that. Really helpfull
glad it's helpful, it's the same thing as how in build orders you have certain army-creation eco needs, like ~2wood/4gold for archers from one range or 7food/7gold for knights from one stable, but for economy production instead. BOs start making a lot more sense when you understand how they are created with these "eco modules".
@@_jwp_7311 I know this is a really old comment but this is exactly the information I need so thank you very much. I am constantly floating resources because I didn't know how much production I needed to balance my resource income. This problem just gets exacerbated once I got to castle age and started producing vills out of 3-4 tcs. Do you know a place with more of this kind of info?
@@blehblehson1194 Yes, I know of such resources (they've multiplied since 1year ago), I can link you. Are you in Hera's or someone else's discord perhaps?
@@_jwp_7311 The thought had not crossed my mind before but after you mentioned it I did join Hera's discord.
Hello Hera, I know this video is quite old, but the build still holds up. I was quite acquinted with AOE2, but still struggled with ranked.This build and the general theory of gamplay provided in between, improved my gameplay significantly. I even got accused of smurfing on one occassion. It helped me to understand what went wrong when I loose, and what went right when I won. Although this video may be outdated, the theory is great. Much love from South Africa and keep up the good work.
Really enjoyed this, would love to see more for other build orders as well.
Thank you for tutorials for us noobs Hera - good luck on HC3
Very nice, thx man
Drush FC
6 vils to sheep
4 to wood
1 get boar
3 to berries
1 get boar
1 more to berries
1 make house and barracks
1 take 10 gold
3 to wod
3 to sheep
3 to gold
Loom/Fuedal
Make archery range with 2 vils
Blacksmith with 1 vil
Make archers asap Idle TC to click up
Should be castle by 17 Minutes
Get boxkin arrow, crossbow, and bow saw ASAP
3 TC Boom
Get wheelbarrow ASAP ( around 22-24 min)
nice instructional video! ohh his speed is so intimidating gezz
Hey thanks for the video! Do you ever go MAA in feudal?
Could anyone tell me when to research fletching?, I didn't quite catch it, only bodkin.
Edit: its at 11:06 nevermind
Awsome
sick clicking!
I still dont get why to send 3-4 on berries when theres still the boar / sheep near the tc. wont you get overall more food if you grab the food with more vills as the food decays at the same rate??
Its best to split them up so u dont have 15 vils on sheep and suddenly the sheep run out and ur left with 15 idle vils. In aoe2 build orders its all about gradual transitions.
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Thanks makes sense. now that I get the chance to talk to an actually good player theres one more queestion Id have: How do you hotkey your buildings? I find it way too slow to produce if I have barracks archery range and siege workshop on the same hotkey... do you hotkey each building kind on a different hotkey? I wished you could just tab through the different kinds of buildings like in sc2...
@@EinfachLogischVideos I'm not Hera and this comes 2 month late for you, but each building has a different hotkey by default.
For eg. Barracks are ctrl+b, Archery Range is ctrl+a, Stables are ctrl+L... you can check them in the hotkeys options in-game.
Also, you can grab all of a same type by adding shift, for eg. grab all Barracks pressing ctrl+shift+b
@@EinfachLogischVideos same actually i wish you could just tab through, there isnt that much different buildings you build to produce from tho i use the default side buttons on my mouse for tc, and usually just hotkey 2 production buildings on 4,5 depending on how close to enemy they are, so that i dont produce from the production buildings all the way back in my base, if you use ctrl+shift you will produce from every building, even the ones back in your base thats what i worked through no idea if its optimal or not
@@EinfachLogischVideos some pro players use single keys for GOING TO x building, like pressing W for going to barracks, so you just spam W W W to cicle through 3 barracks
if you have Militia line hotkeyd to D for example, and you want to queue militias in every barrack, you just press W D W D W D W D W D W D W D till you ran off resources
thats why pros spend their resources so fast, cause that key spam takes you like 1 secs and 0 attention. With practique you just go autopilot to spam units, so you can use your attention to think about the game
Keep doing videos
Hey! Why dont you use the boar's villager to build the house? Dont you loose time using another? Thanks for all those advices
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Because then you don't get the boar under your tc as fast
The longer you take to get your boar, the longer you will take time to upgrade to next age. So is not a good thing use the boar villager to build houses
What advantages are evident when you have low hp villagers to start farms?
Farms are closest to the Town Center so by putting the low hp vils there you are protecting them from future enemy raids!
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 said by the guy whose signature move is to snipe with the scout weak vills around the tc 11
is it just me or this guy is so quick at what he's doing I had to slow it down to point 0.5 and watch.
yes its really so boring ..
He's world's no.2 player. Ofcourse it will be like that for us. Plus we would lose a villager or have idle time if we try to lure deer at game min 2:30.
@@hareshneeraj998 well yes but it's ridiculously fast for our eyes
@@subendutuladhar9269 it's not, you're probably slow
i mean, this guy is "late" in castle at a time i'm not even in feudal ^^
When you dropped your farm food to click up, how do you get your vills to go back to their respective farms?
Garrison and then ungarrison
You can also just ring town bell and unring it but it’s less efficient
How do you move the screen without bringing your mouse all the way to the edge of the screen?
keyboard arrows
Do we have a updated version of this? for DE?
That’s my problem. I get baited with a low hp vil and eat the tc fire 11
Does this only work on open maps? Can you pull this off in something like bf?
Fast Castle is more effective on closed maps like BF, it's actually not that viable at mid/high elo on open maps due to losing fuedal pressure
Thanks Hera! Love the videos. Hope the stream break feels good man. For anyone looking for the recorded analysis, part 2, of this build order, check it out here: th-cam.com/video/AZQuku68PL0/w-d-xo.html
This strat doesn't work in the modern era. If you're going up this late your opponent is damn near already walled.
Actually was the .txt file not the same with reallity :) 3 n 2 gold for example :)
Here is buildorder explained:
00:24 2 bhouse -> sheep 0/1+0+0/0/0
00:24 3 bhouse -> sheep 0/2+0+0/0/0
00:27 4 new -> sheep 0/3+0+0/0/0
00:30 5 bhouse -> sheep 0/4+0+0/0/0
00:52 6 new -> sheep 0/5+0+0/0/0
01:17 7 new -> sheep 0/6+0+0/0/0
01:42 8 new -> bLumb 0/6+0+0/0/0
02:07 9 new -> wood 1/6+0+0/0/0
02:32 10 new -> wood 2/6+0+0/0/0
02:36 10 bLumb -> wood 3/6+0+0/0/0
02:57 11 new -> wood 4/6+0+0/0/0
03:22 12 new -> boar 4/7+0+0/0/0
03:47 13 new -> bHou 4/7+0+0/0/0
04:12 14 new -> bMil 4/7+0+0/0/0
04:36 14 bHou -> berries 4/7+1+0/0/0
04:37 15 new -> berries 4/7+2+0/0/0
05:02 16 new -> berries 4/7+3+0/0/0
05:18 16 bMil -> berries 4/7+4+0/0/0
05:27 17 new -> boar 4/7+4+0/0/0
05:52 18 new -> bHou 4/7+4+0/0/0
06:17 19 new -> heep 4/8+4+0/0/0
06:39 19 bHou -> bBar 4/8+4+0/0/0
06:42 20 new -> gold 4/8+4+0/1/0
07:07 21 new -> wood 5/8+4+0/1/0
07:30 21 bBar -> bHou 5/8+4+0/1/0
07:32 22 new -> wood 6/8+4+0/1/0
07:51 22 gold -> sheep 6/9+4+0/0/0
07:57 23 new -> wood 7/9+4+0/0/0
07:59 24 militia 1
08:25 25 militia 2
08:26 26 new -> sheep 7/10+4+0/0/0
08:31 26 sheep -> farm 7/9+4+1/0/0
08:31 26 sheep -> farm 7/8+4+2/0/0
08:37 27 militia 3
08:51 28 new -> bHou 7/8+4+2/0/0
08:51 28 sheep -> farm 7/7+4+3/0/0
09:16 29 new -> gold 8/7+4+3/1/0
09:27 29 sheep -> farm 8/6+4+4/1/0
09:41 30 new -> gold 8/6+4+4/2/0
09:52 30 sheep -> woodtc 9/5+4+4/2/0
09:52 30 sheep -> woodtc 10/4+4+4/2/0
09:52 30 sheep -> woodtc 11/3+4+4/2/0
10:06 30 new -> woodtc 12/6+4+4/2/0
10:16 30 sheep -> woodtc 13/2+4+4/2/0
10:16 30 sheep -> woodtc 14/1+4+4/2/0
10:16 30 sheep -> farm 14/0+4+5/2/0
10:32 ! up to Feudal !
You went Saracens are didn't make market? maybe I get it for the point of the video but you are definitely not playing this civ optimally without a market.
I use saracens because it has no other eco bonus besides. It represents a generic civ if i dont use it. Of course i know to play saracens in a real game
This should never work.
You will be behind on workers 100% of the time, thus behind on eco and thus have less units.
Spending your resources in a bunch of walls that do nothing should also be simply bad.
Walling off should be something you do if you scout aggression from your opponent, NOT something you blindly do.
Blind countering things in an RTS is a perfect example of poor gameplay.
Games with imperfect knowledge such as StarCraft and Age of Empires are meant to be played reactively.
Doing blind build orders, wherein you aim to exploit your opponent in the early game based on the fact that its nearly impossible to scout and react in time is pure degeneracy.
AoE is not taken as a serious RTS for good reason.
Mechanically inconsistent, buggy, poor pathing AI and clearly defenders advantage is not balanced enough.
It does work tho
'AOE is not taken as a serious RTS' why is it like 2nd most popular after starcraft and receiving tons of investment from Red Bull etc., and also gaining in popularity for a 25yr old game then? There are Starcraft pros who play both reactively and proactively, the 'degeneracy' you're describing is just standard cheese which is a part of the game and is the reason a lot of build orders exist. The whole reason you time the building of specific upgrades/buildings/units is in case of one of those early attacks, and when something new becomes popular builds need to adjust to reflect them. Wtf are you talking about lmao
"clearly defenders advantage" Please play against Hera and try defending against his "blind" build order and see how much of an advantage you have.
this comment is adorable