If you get an xl or xlt ford hd diesel they are not crazy in price .We are replacing our 2018 ram 3500 diesel dually reg cab 4x4 with a ford f450 xlt reg cab diesel under 70k price tag and the ford interior on the lower trim trucks is way better and the aluminum body will last longer than the steel ram by far!
You think$70,000 is a low price for a low level Ford is a reasonable price? Hahaha! You are the type of idiot that causes dealers to celebrate. I bought a 22 Ram Power Wagon😊 for $52,000! You spent $18,000 wasted dollars on a cheaply appointed and equipped Ford. The first fender bender that aluminum body will fold. There fire insurance will add another$5,000 a year to the wasted $18,000z Also off road I will be constantly using my factory 12,000 lb winch to keep pulling you out. As to the trans, I run 35 inch Yokohama MT G003 tires and have 0 problems. Enjoy that POS Ford. I have a Bullit Mustang and it loves to be repaired. To add insult to injury, the Ford Service is terrible. I needed two days of repairs. They kept it for a month and a half. Ram dealer has nothing to repair and is prompt on my truck. Enjoy your ripoff truck. Thank you from the dealers for supporting the $30,000 to $40,000 overcharge
Get rid of half the fancy shit, offer a manual transmission and floor shift 4x4. A lot of people still prefer a 6 speed trans for towing. And knock the prices down to 50-70K max
Paid 57990 for a 2018 5500 with an 8k dump bed. Don't know what it's worth. And will be paying 70k for a gmc unless ram gives me a limited for 76k out the door 😂
One thing I looked at was the ease of changing head gaskets, turbos, etc on the Cummins vs others. These get way overlooked I think. This setup is way easier to work on than these V8’s.
Because the hood is so long. U lose space interior or in the box. Personally Id sacrifice inches on the interior of fords for more space under the hood.
Serviceability of the inline is great. I've been doing this for 24yrs and working on the Cummins is super easy compared to the 6.7 Powerstroke's. I agree with what JB said about the 68RFE also, when used with stock power levels and not exceeding GCWR it does the job without failure. The issues we see are trucks with 37s and the customer is still trying to tow what the truck was rated for with stock tires. Other issue is oil filed workers spinning the tires hard in the mud. If they find traction it can damage the one-way clutch in the rear of the trans. 4LO solves this issue.
@evocati6523 people can't afford them I make very good money I could buy one but the reality is if you spend 90k on a truck your out 1200$ a month. If you make 75k a year you take home 5k a month agyer insurance and shit your spending 1/3 on a truck payment
@@evocati6523 what people want and what they can afford are two different things. Record high for missing payments and defaults on auto loans. In addition , people get to look at vehicles on the lot, manufacturers are sending the majority of the highest trim levels. Which they make the highest profit. Dealer lots are over stocked for a reason.
You are correct.. back in the day if you wanted a truck thats what you got. Vinyl floor mats crank windows but power steering and ac amfm radio... but then they started to load trucks in 80s and 90s to get what the yuppies want. Then you only get a fully loaded truck.. or you get a strip down truck with still many luxury items... for 20k less.. its crazy
Geezus! RAM only needs the 5th Gen 1/2-ton crew cab on these. Stellantis needs to quit dickering around with useless EV configurations and get some focus on updating the trucks we buy to work and not just get groceries with. Bolt in a 7 or 8 speed trans and the RAM is revived. I definitely agree with you, JB, on this one! 💯
They dicker around with EV's because the government is forcing them to. EPA emissions is the biggest reason for the prices being so high. Getting a new diesel through emissions cost around 20 million, I heard
Good video. I think one of the reasons why they're not selling is because they're charging the same price if not more for an older truck versus Ford and GM. Plus RAM is relying too much on the Cummins name. I think a lot of people only buy a heavy duty RAM because of the Cummins. If Ram did not offer the Cummins they would hardly sell any heavy duty trucks 😁
Definitely agreed on the pricing. But Ram 3500/4500s are beasts of towing machines. Its not just the Cummins. It is the engine-braking, Aisin commercial transmission, overall towing confidence, etc. But yes, pricing needs to be addressed.
@@miketothesupra The 6.7 powerstroke is made by Ford they quit using international in 2010. The Duramax was designed by a company called DMAX which is owned by GM. So yes both Ford and Chevy make their own diesels 🙂
My thoughts: 1) smaller back seat makes no difference because everyone uses it for storage 2) more gears are fine. I drive an 18 speed rig and need lower gears 3) never going to use that big screen in the dash, it's awful for night driving; give me the knobs back 4) deep sidewall is good for what....it's an open deck bed 5) last but not least....SCREW EPA!
My 2017 3500 Laramie will do me just fine. It’s comfortable and paid for. A current replacement would be in the $90-95,000.00 range. Way more than I am willing to pay. My Ram gets me 10.3-11 mpg towing a 41 ft long Rv that weighs over 15,000 pounds with 3500 pounds of weight on the hitch , 93 gals of fuel and three passengers.
The cab isn’t an issue. I actually like that my truck isn’t massive! I do wish for a few more inches in the bed. Personally I take issue with the pricing and that the only interior color now is black on black on black. Bring back the tan bighorn interior!
I must have the cab from the 1500 on the 2500 & 3500, updated styling on the interior & exterior like the 1500, and the ZF 8 speed with the Cummins and I'll buy it
I agree with most here. Price is the problem. My '21 3500HD DRW Big Horn came with the Standard Output (SO) Cummins coupled to a 68RFE with a 4:10 rear diff and I paid 62 g's for it just before Memorial Day that year. I thought that was too much but when compared to other RAM models or even other makes/models, I think I did alright. Honestly, even though I sacrificed for a little less power, I saved big on price. For starters, the Big Horn package cost quite a bit less than other models and it's still nicely equipped for a pick-up. The 5th Gen, SO Cummins is way more powerful than earlier model trucks of which I've owned and therefore I am more than impressed. I'm so glad I didn't drop the extra 15 grand for the HO/Aisin. Who needs all that extra power? OK, sure, it would be cool to have the extra 225 lb.-ft of torque, but this thing is already pulling 5th wheels and goosenecks at highway speeds up 7% grades. So, I think I can come up with about 15 thousand other reasons not to have the HO option. Bottom line, you can still save big if you just settle for a little less. And this one's paid in full. I do realize that the price of the newer ones has risen dramatically; even for something similar to the one I have. For that reason, I'll end with how I started my post: Pricing is the problem for reduced sales; not features and body styles.
Yup. The 68s is NOT the same 68 from the mid 2000s. It has a completely different valve body, snap rings, and clutches. The issue is when guys tune their Cummins to 600hp/1300lb-ft of torque and don't touch the trans. Firepunk diesel here on YT are the 68 whisperers on their built Ram trucks.
I’ve got 103k on mine and I’m tuned and deleted on 35’s. Knock on wood it’s been great. I definitely don’t beat on it but I do like to give it the beans from a stop light fairly often lol.
2013 68rfe. 40's since brand new. Efi live tuning/ deleted. Stock trans made it to 260,000km. She had a hard life. Got a gully built heavy duty trans for $6500. With the price of new trucks ill be keeping this one forever
@@coryhimmelspach1101 you had me Googling who “gully” was as a transmission builder because I had never heard of them and then it hit me it was just a typo and you meant “fully” 🤦🏻♂️😂
Price in my opinion is the biggest issue. Then i would agree with the smaller cab size, shorter bed on the standard bed option and yes, low payload number on a 3/4 ton diesel.
Ram has been building the HD trucks in Saltillo MX since 2105. When I placed my order for one in 2015 delivery was scheduled from their truck plant in Saltillo MX.
Great job and info! I've been a ram ,mopar guy all my life. My first cummins 1992 was a 1991. I've owned 36 of them threw out the years.The ram truck was always a great truck, but the 22-23's with all the problems.. recall after recall.. I traded my ordered 22 3500 for the f350 SRW. No regrets. Your absolutely right, they need to up there game! Jim
Owned a 14 ram dually limited for 10 years, great truck well built and great for work and towing heavy. Just purchased a 24 Ford Platinum 7.3l gas Tremor model, had ram a better V8 I most likely would have stuck with Ram.
How are you liking the 7.3 gasser and the 10spd so far? I’m actually seriously considering making the same move from my Cummins very soon. Absolutely love my Cummins and there’s not a thing wrong with it but I’m just itching for a new truck and no longer need a diesel.
@@SoonerMikeD I am happy with it so far. The 10 speed is spot on, seems to always be in the right gear and happy to shift and shift fast. For an F350 it feels like a toy in comparison to my old Ram 1 ton dually.
I have a 2023 RAM 3500 HO Cummins with the AISIN transmission. I'm still trying to figure out what's harsh about that transmission. It shifts smoothly for me. Towing or not.
People complain about it compared to the more refined RFE. Once they learn about how great the durability has been they're usually fine. I do wish it held gears and lugged more like the RFE does. Sometimes it's a little too quick to downshift, especially considering the Cummins doesn't mind operating @ 1200rpm.
I think the harshess is more pronounced with certain rear gear ratios. On my 5500 with 4.88's it is extremely predictable, I know at what rpms at a given throttle command when the trans will lock up or shift.
Y’all remember years ago a when a extended cab trucks were family trucks of 4-5 people and life just kept going and dad had to have his speaker box that didn’t fit all the way under the back seat lol but life was good
The biggest con is it’s mostly the same truck from 2010 but with a light interior refresh and different headlights convinced people to call it a 5th gen.
I have no problems with the same truck. I have a problem with the same truck for a poop-ton more money. If they plan on keeping it the way it is market and price it as the average person's towing truck. They wouldn't be able to make them fast enough if they kept their prices lower. Not everybody needs the extra the others offer, but if they cost about the same why pay more for less?
I’d just pick up a 2024 for a huge discount if I had to stick with Ram. The 25 doesn’t sound worth it because they will want MSRP. I’d give the new transmission a year to make sure the bugs are worked out. So I guess I’ll wait for 2026 or just get a GM or ford😂
I would normally recommend the same thing but: 1) ZF's Powerline has already been out in true medium duty trucks. 2) When the ZF 8HPs came to market in 2011 they were great. We've continued to have excellent durability from the ZF trans for the 10+ years Mopar has used them. Based on this my expectation is the trans will be great from Job 1.
They make lot of lower models without all that, nobody forces you to buy the fancy stuff. It might shock you to learn that people like to work AND be comfortable doing it
I like the cab size. I don’t have kids and the backseat is always folded and just for cargo. I like the better maneuverability of the smaller ram cab/bed. This is after owning a crew long bed F350 Platinum, so I’ve had both ends of the spectrum. They each have a place for sure.
From a guy that’s been driving semis most of his life, you absolutely can’t go wrong with more gears. They help you speed up as well as slow down. They give you options to stay in the power at all times. I think they need to at a minimum use an 8 speed but a 10 would be money
As a GM guy we delt with smaller cabs for years. It took 2019 refresh for us to have large cabs with more room in back seat. Plus having head rest that hit your head and not the lower part of your neck.
I bought a 2020 ram 1500 Laramie new and I ended up recently selling it and going back to Chevy. Although the interior was great and so was the tech, the constant rear window leak (replaced 3 times within 20k miles), exhaust manifolds cracking and the wind noise that couple different dealers could never figure out I decided to part ways with it. Powertrain wise never had any issues.
My 68RFE is doing fine in my 2012. Has never missed a beat. Been running a 100hp tune for about six years I think with a trans tune. Probably have never had my foot clear to the floor. It's been on 37s for a couple years and 35s before that. I've got an HD ZR2 on order right now. Ram just pricey and not offering much new since 2019.
I think they should make the Mega Cab standard on all trim levels. 8 speed Transmissions would be good for the HD on Board power, which would be ok. Underneath and in the seat storage would help sell as well. Make the Ram Boxes available on the 3500 HD as well for guys and girls that use their trucks in various fields and would need that space for tools and things. Airbags in the rear should be standard on all levels on the 3500 Duallies. Just my take on it. Absolutely the prices are the main problem on all new trucks. Bigger discounts and price drops are what's needed for all HD trucks in general
Great Video! Thanks for the news. I think if the ZF Powerline transmission works out like it should, Everyone will quickly forget about the 68RFE and the Aisin,
Yeah 3 years straight and I see 99% ram for hotshot. 2 Duramax dually's. 3 powerstroke. One classic western using a gooseneck trailer. And a Toyota TRD hauling a 40 foot big tex gooseneck. I've seen two really rare truck configurations as often as a duramx towing. 😂
From my understanding, the ZF going behind the Cummins is different than the ZF behind the HD hemis (supposed to be a very stout transmission (not saying the ZF behind the hemi doesn't also work great) I'm 6'3" and drive a 4th gen 2500 crew cab with the 6' bed. I've never thought of the cab as small 🤷♂️. More payload would be nice for the 2500s, but getting a stout transmission in there would be amazing and make me want a new truck. I'm kind of a Ram fanboy so a better transmission is really the only thing I see missing from these trucks 🤣.. maybe in 15 years I'll be able to afford a 2025 😋
The 8 speed gassers use the 8HP versions. Depending on application from V8 grand cherokees all the way to Hellcats they vary in sizes. 8HP60, 75, 80 etc. The ZF in the new HD diesels are the Powerline series. Completely different designed transmissions with PTO's. These are commercial designed transmissions from the ground up.
I was actually hoping for more with the Ram redesign. That cab is a little tight. I have a 2024 GMC 3500 AT4. When I get around at looking to trade at the end of 2025 I will likely be in another GMC or Chevy. I will look at Ram at that time but GMC has a huge edge already for me after hearing this.
Traded in my deleted 4th gen for a 22 3500 mega limited night edition. Love the interior and headlamps, the only thing I’m hating so far is not being able to delete and tune. The aisin trans is rough but it’s reliable.
I had 2 Dodge diesels, 2500 & 3500 dually with the "junk" trans that everyone talks about. Most of the 2500 251K miles when I owned it was towing horse trailers, job trailer, boat and tractor. Approx 40% of the 207K miles I put on my 3500 was towing 42' living quarter horse trailer all over NC, TN & VA mountains, skid steer or boat. At alternating oil changes, I had the transmission filter changed at one service, front/rear diffs and transfer case lube change on next service. Some people say it's overkill on the service, but knowing I towed a lot and towed heavy often, just made sense. Both trucks were running and towing great when I traded them, neither truck ever had trans issues with the so-called "junk" transmissions. Both trucks were stock. On the other hand, a guy I know loved my 2500 so he found a used one with around 30k miles on it. The previous owner had changed the exhaust and added a 6-pack tuner. Around 65K miles and him keeping that tuner turned up because it was "cool", it ripped the trans apart. About 10k miles later the engine grenaded itself. Then he started trashing Dodge trucks and cummins engines after having to get a second loan to replace the engine. Also know a guy that blew up 3 powerstroke engines from doing the same thing. He finally figured out he was the problem and stopped installing tuners in new trucks, still drives Ford trucks but hasn't destroyed a powerstroke since he learned a very expensive lesson. And he learned the powerstroke didn't need a tuner to tow loaded horse trailers.
Underrated advice! Wish more people had this level of common sense and willingness to do preventative maintenance. You'll probably have an excellent experience with any new vehicle or piece of equipment.
I’ll go along with that except for the fact that the last Allison you can get the Chevy was in 2019 Allison doesn’t make a 10 speed if you don’t believe me call him what they make now is an Allison branded transmission which is the partnership of ford, GM and the joint venture, 10 speed, nightmare, buildoh boy
As a four-year owner of a 2018 Ram 1500, I’ve spent over six months at the dealership due to electronic problems, an engine replacement at 72k miles, and a transmission failure at 84k miles. Reliability of the new Ram just isn’t worth the investment. I’ve poured an extra $25k into repairs on top of the initial $50k purchase. In summary, the new Ram 1500’s reliability doesn’t justify the time and money spent.
You are right on! The smaller, 4th Gen cab is a dealbreaker for me (compared to my current 5th Gen 1500, and what Ford and GM HDs are now offering). Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see a new ZF 8-speed transmission too, but if they want to compete toe-to-toe and sell more trucks, they should absolutely move to the newer cab (that honestly should have come out back in 2019 alongside the truly 5th Gen 1500). If they built a 6-passenger Laramie 3500 similar to my current 1500 (6.5’ bed, full leather, heated/cooled seats, 360 camera, adaptive cruise, and all the other bells and whistles) but with the HD payload and a 6.7 Cummins hooked up to an 8-speed ZF, I’d order one tomorrow.
This is a huge bummer, if true. I will be in the market for a one ton in the next two years and was hoping to have a beautiful new Ram to check out with an updated diesel and transmission. If the cab doesn’t change, I will certainly get a GMC Denali Ultimate.
I'm slowly moving towards upgrading my ram 1500 to a 3/4 ton pickup of some kind. Right now I'm picking chevy. The extra 6" or 7" bed length and auto 4wd are enough to move me away from ram. My 1500 has been the best truck I've ever owned and I'd love to stay with ram but I'm dead set on at least auto 4wd.
I have a 2023 RAM POWER WAGON 6.4 HEMI and its darn good for my needs..I will buy a 2025 RAM POWER WAGON 6.4 HEMI.... I had a few already my 2014 went 184,000 miles before I sold it no issues..I only sold it to get a new one..I had a programmer and other mods and it improved 0-60 to mid 6 second range..Yes other makes might be quicker stock but I never raced at the lights,I did beat a few cars that tried but I know my limitations ...for that I have 10 second to 12 second 1/4 mile cars classics to modern..Hellcat Challenger and a low 11 second 1970 Charger 500 with a built/stroked 383 now 496 c.i did that time with a 3 speed auto and hwy gearing 2.94 axle ratio!!
My only complaints on the 68RFE is that it can be a little slushy during high speed acceleration, and it could benefit from a 7 speed configuration for sure. Make first gear a little bit lower with a .60:1 3rd overdrive or better yet retain the double OD with a tighter split from 1-5 with a 3.60 first
I'd like a ratio between the current 5th-6th gears for when I'm pulling my tall camper. When towing I like to drive 67mph, 5th is too low with reduced economy (rpm too high) and 6th is too tall (1500rpm). I end up driving 72mph @ 1750rpm in 6th so it doesn't kick down as much. The ZF trans has earned my respect, excited to see how it pulls compared to my RFE. Had great luck with the RFE since my 2007, not bashing it, it's just a little out dated.
I have a 2011 super duty 6.7 with over 400k miles and I am looking to get something newer, not new. It has a 8" sus lift 38x15.50x20 tires and I use it daily towing dirt and rock for my landscape business. I have never had 1 issue with the tranny or engine. I was considering ram because of the exhaust brake and was looking at the 2019's, but I'm not sure after hearing about the hydraulic lifters and tranny issues. Any suggestions?
I've been holding out on ordering a new work truck hoping for updates to the Transmission. I've been having issues with my Asin and know of a couple other people with issues as well. I bought a 23 HO F450 and I have to admit the 10 speed transmission is awesome, no slouch in the power department either. fingers crossed they change everything
I had a 68RFE in my first RAM 3500 and really liked it - better than either of my Aisins. The problem came when I tried selling the RAM with the 68RFE. No one wanted to buy my RAM because it didn't have the Aisin. Ended up selling it to a dealer.
I love everything on my 2021 including cab size and bed choices. I would change the: sliding console, sunroof size, and better factory batteries/tires.
As a 4th gen owner, the cab and trans need to be changed. I think one 8 speed trans should be used for both so and HO trucks. The cab is just too small compared to the competition.
They need to stop putting the grid heaters in that can take the engines out from a stupid bolt and nut failure. I have a 2018 3500 dually with the HO and Aisin and 410 gears in silver, I m throwing on a bunch of banks products and running hot shot secret additives and don't ever plan on buying new again. Maybe a 1st 2nd or 3rd gen for kicks.
Not sure why a bigger cab is desirable. If I thought it were possible for my uses, and my girlfriend would agree to it, I would buy a regular cab. I need the capabilities towing but the size can be inconvenient.
I think the Dodge ram 3500 four-door Cavs are excellent I've been in the Ford and I've been in the Chevy I choose the Dodge ram any day the Cavs does not need to be bigger that would be absolutely stupid
They want to sell more trucks, do all these changes and drop the price. This will scramble the market. If they add all this content and increase the cost they will slow orders even more. If they add all these changes and beef up the engine, trans, and frames then maybe they can up the cost some. All the truck owners I know switched from Ram to GM recently and they absolutely love how they tow huge and heavy loads. I do think ram should continue to offer this smaller cab, and maybe make a larger version on a longer wheelbase. I for one don't want a bigger cab. The rear isn't used enough. I would rather have an easier to turn truck, so I like the Quad and short bed. But I know I am probably not the target audience.
My 68rfe went out at 130,000 miles. Hardly ever towed anything. Just look on the internet. The 68rfe is junk. I got one made stage2 billet shaft upgraded pump and clutches for 7,000. Transmission shop told me they rebuild those transmissions all the time. I called 5 shops that wouldn’t even touch it! 2018 ram 2500
Agreed with some others, truck prices have gotten completely out of hand and the ram cabs definitely need to be bigger. I have a 2015 ecodiesel , 2016 ford f250 and a 2021 f150 and both ford's cabs are much bigger.
Ram lost me. I have 2 2nd gen 2500 5.9's and I just bought a brand new 6.7 FORD. If im going to pay outrageous prices for a new truck, im buying the more efficient, the faster, the more powerful truck, with a bigger bed and cab. I could not wait any longer for ram to modernize their truck that is as old in many ways as the SIX POINT FOUR powerstroke. A giant screen and a very dated cummins engine will not sell these trucks especially considering the 6.7 power stroke is proven and this isn't the 2000's anymore for super duties.
I 100% agree they have to make a bigger cab it's a must also I have a 22 2500 cummins with the 68rfe and my truck is bone stock except for 35 12 20 tires and it is flawless I love the truck
My son-in-law has a Raptor and that cab is huge from side to side and that’s what Ram needs to do . But me myself that cab they have now is fine but if you want to keep up with Jones make wider .
Tells Larry H Miller, I bought my 2019 Megacab diesel 4WD BigHorn, air ride, Full LED, Camera, Adaptive cruise truck for about 56k back in the day from Peterson Dodge. Once they get close to that price range, ill come buy..... until then......
Great video! I loke the Rams. I do agree that the cabs need to be bigger. The bed options are fine because you can get the short bed or a long bed. The diesels DEFINITELY need help in the payload department on the 2500s. I saw a 2020 Limited diesel 4x4 that had only 1700lbs of payload, but can tow 20,000lbs. How? Also the Hemi could use more power. It's hard to beat that 7.3L. Lastly, they need to be built in Almerica at a lower price. Paying almost $60k for a Tradesman is pretty ridiculous
I'm here in my 21 single cab cab and Chassis, hearing you say the cabs are small, thinking about the 18 F-550 I had been in? Yeah, hell no. As far as the single cabs go, RAM kicks Ford's butt, and then some. Have a buddy at a different company in a 24 F600 single cab (same as 550 essentially), and you can barely put anything behind the seats. Can't speak to the Crew.
Agree. I would prefer an HD ZF8, half ton cab and more bed room, and a bump up hp on standard output. Ram HD are too expensive to still be riding old body an platform.
I have a 18 high output with aisin. I pull 30k. The truck struggles a bit between gears, would love to see an 8 speed. I actually would love to have a quad cab long box dually. If I got a shortbox, I would like a bigger crew cab, in the back seat, along with more legroom up front.
Omg everyone complaining about this cab and how it needs to be done and it is old and blah blah. Yes i welcome change to a larger cab im excited for when that does happen but lets not forget ford. When the new super duty came out in 1999 they used that cab till 2016 with front and rear refresh. Now ram does it and everyone loses there shit. Ford and gm would not be where they are today if it wasn't for ram. They been riding rams shirt tails for years trying to keep up with rams payload, towing, and luxurious interior. Plus when ford does towing tests they have to put there f450 up against the 3500 ha. Anyways i love ram trucks they have taken care of me but all i can say is we welcome change we are hoping for it but take yr time and get it right and blow the other 2 out of the water
6.4L BGE is still alive. Rumor has it a Cummins 6.7L gas is in development. We'll see, I think the big fleets would do well with the simplicity and reduced maintenance of either gasser.
And the reason a lot of the trucks haven't been selling because people got their old ones and they're not trying to buy a new truck and make new payments that's a stupid idiotic
All HD truck prices are absolutely outrageous no wonder sales are down
$90k if you want leather. Insanity.
If you get an xl or xlt ford hd diesel they are not crazy in price .We are replacing our 2018 ram 3500 diesel dually reg cab 4x4 with a ford f450 xlt reg cab diesel under 70k price tag and the ford interior on the lower trim trucks is way better and the aluminum body will last longer than the steel ram by far!
You think$70,000 is a low price for a low level Ford is a reasonable price? Hahaha! You are the type of idiot that causes dealers to celebrate. I bought a 22 Ram Power Wagon😊 for $52,000! You spent $18,000 wasted dollars on a cheaply appointed and equipped Ford. The first fender bender that aluminum body will fold. There fire insurance will add another$5,000 a year to the wasted $18,000z
Also off road I will be constantly using my factory 12,000 lb winch to keep pulling you out.
As to the trans, I run 35 inch Yokohama MT G003 tires and have 0 problems.
Enjoy that POS Ford. I have a Bullit Mustang and it loves to be repaired. To add insult to injury, the Ford Service is terrible. I needed two days of repairs. They kept it for a month and a half.
Ram dealer has nothing to repair and is prompt on my truck.
Enjoy your ripoff truck. Thank you from the dealers for supporting the $30,000 to $40,000 overcharge
My 2024 Silverado 2500HD Custom 4x4 was only $55k.
@Death_by_Inflation because its basically a base model with the gas engine. Same truck with the duramax is high 60s.
What would sell more HD trucks?
Get rid of a lot of the do-dads and get the prices down by $10-20k.
$100,000 trucks are way too much.
They have cheaper, base model trucks. Nobody buys them except maybe fleets
I can get all the fancy do-dads on a $40k Honda. No reason I shouldn't be able to get them on a truck for $70k.
@@evocati6523 Because they want mid-$70's for them....
Get rid of half the fancy shit, offer a manual transmission and floor shift 4x4. A lot of people still prefer a 6 speed trans for towing. And knock the prices down to 50-70K max
@@Valkyrie1911 but you can’t tow a gooseneck horse trailer with a Honda.
They all need to do something about the ridiculous prices.
They just dropped the price 10k plus rebates
Just start maken more money
loving my 2021 ram 2500. paid only 62,000 and now almost 95,000 for same truck.
Paid 57990 for a 2018 5500 with an 8k dump bed. Don't know what it's worth. And will be paying 70k for a gmc unless ram gives me a limited for 76k out the door 😂
Me too with my 2020! Keeping it!
I paid 49k for a 2021 2500 gasser long bed with some good options (50 gallon tank). I'm going to drive it until it dies at this point.
Same story for my 2020 duramax 2500
The price is there problem. Same truck cost $30,000 less in 2020.
Buying a ram is just silly when you can get a Ford Or Chevy Or Gmc Instead
@@JoshuaOvermandepends what you need them for, if you’re towing Cummins ftw 😮💨
@@manny7972powwrstroke tows better
@@JoshuaOverman I agree.
Lol no they didn't
One thing I looked at was the ease of changing head gaskets, turbos, etc on the Cummins vs others. These get way overlooked I think. This setup is way easier to work on than these V8’s.
100 % agree
Because the hood is so long. U lose space interior or in the box. Personally Id sacrifice inches on the interior of fords for more space under the hood.
Serviceability of the inline is great. I've been doing this for 24yrs and working on the Cummins is super easy compared to the 6.7 Powerstroke's. I agree with what JB said about the 68RFE also, when used with stock power levels and not exceeding GCWR it does the job without failure. The issues we see are trucks with 37s and the customer is still trying to tow what the truck was rated for with stock tires. Other issue is oil filed workers spinning the tires hard in the mud. If they find traction it can damage the one-way clutch in the rear of the trans. 4LO solves this issue.
The entire problem is COST. They produce truck that only 17% can truly afford. Not everyone wants a fully loaded car on a truck frame.
On the GMC side the AT4 and Denali trims make up 70% of all HD sales. So yes, people want them
@evocati6523 people can't afford them I make very good money I could buy one but the reality is if you spend 90k on a truck your out 1200$ a month. If you make 75k a year you take home 5k a month agyer insurance and shit your spending 1/3 on a truck payment
@@evocati6523 what people want and what they can afford are two different things. Record high for missing payments and defaults on auto loans. In addition , people get to look at vehicles on the lot, manufacturers are sending the majority of the highest trim levels. Which they make the highest profit. Dealer lots are over stocked for a reason.
Drop the MSRP at least $30,000. A payment of almost $2000/mo is stupid.
You are correct.. back in the day if you wanted a truck thats what you got. Vinyl floor mats crank windows but power steering and ac amfm radio... but then they started to load trucks in 80s and 90s to get what the yuppies want. Then you only get a fully loaded truck.. or you get a strip down truck with still many luxury items... for 20k less.. its crazy
Geezus! RAM only needs the 5th Gen 1/2-ton crew cab on these. Stellantis needs to quit dickering around with useless EV configurations and get some focus on updating the trucks we buy to work and not just get groceries with. Bolt in a 7 or 8 speed trans and the RAM is revived. I definitely agree with you, JB, on this one! 💯
They actually did! They are putting the zf Powerline 8-speed in the new heavy duties the 68 rfe and asin are now dead
They dicker around with EV's because the government is forcing them to. EPA emissions is the biggest reason for the prices being so high. Getting a new diesel through emissions cost around 20 million, I heard
Good video. I think one of the reasons why they're not selling is because they're charging the same price if not more for an older truck versus Ford and GM. Plus RAM is relying too much on the Cummins name. I think a lot of people only buy a heavy duty RAM because of the Cummins. If Ram did not offer the Cummins they would hardly sell any heavy duty trucks 😁
Definitely agreed on the pricing. But Ram 3500/4500s are beasts of towing machines. Its not just the Cummins. It is the engine-braking, Aisin commercial transmission, overall towing confidence, etc. But yes, pricing needs to be addressed.
Nah they started the trend of “modern luxury” interiors in trucks not long ago. But for the most part yes. Cummins is carrying Ram.
Ford and chevy didnt make those engines themselves either. Im previous ford owner and cummins will be always on top because inline design
@@miketothesupra The 6.7 powerstroke is made by Ford they quit using international in 2010. The Duramax was designed by a company called DMAX which is owned by GM. So yes both Ford and Chevy make their own diesels 🙂
@@miketothesupra GM is still using technology from Isuzu in the late 90s/early 2000s.
My thoughts: 1) smaller back seat makes no difference because everyone uses it for storage
2) more gears are fine. I drive an 18 speed rig and need lower gears
3) never going to use that big screen in the dash, it's awful for night driving; give me the knobs back
4) deep sidewall is good for what....it's an open deck bed
5) last but not least....SCREW EPA!
My 2017 3500 Laramie will do me just fine. It’s comfortable and paid for. A current replacement would be in the $90-95,000.00 range. Way more than I am willing to pay. My Ram gets me 10.3-11 mpg towing a 41 ft long Rv that weighs over 15,000 pounds with 3500 pounds of weight on the hitch , 93 gals of fuel and three passengers.
The prices are what's stupid on every HD truck no matter the brand...80/90/100k for a truck is absolutely insane.
The cab isn’t an issue. I actually like that my truck isn’t massive! I do wish for a few more inches in the bed.
Personally I take issue with the pricing and that the only interior color now is black on black on black. Bring back the tan bighorn interior!
"I do wish for a few more inches in the bed" That's what she said! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Maybe I’m an outlier - but I bought a Ram HD specifically because it’s the only HD truck that fits in my garage.
I must have the cab from the 1500 on the 2500 & 3500, updated styling on the interior & exterior like the 1500, and the ZF 8 speed with the Cummins and I'll buy it
I agree with most here. Price is the problem. My '21 3500HD DRW Big Horn came with the Standard Output (SO) Cummins coupled to a 68RFE with a 4:10 rear diff and I paid 62 g's for it just before Memorial Day that year. I thought that was too much but when compared to other RAM models or even other makes/models, I think I did alright. Honestly, even though I sacrificed for a little less power, I saved big on price. For starters, the Big Horn package cost quite a bit less than other models and it's still nicely equipped for a pick-up. The 5th Gen, SO Cummins is way more powerful than earlier model trucks of which I've owned and therefore I am more than impressed. I'm so glad I didn't drop the extra 15 grand for the HO/Aisin. Who needs all that extra power? OK, sure, it would be cool to have the extra 225 lb.-ft of torque, but this thing is already pulling 5th wheels and goosenecks at highway speeds up 7% grades. So, I think I can come up with about 15 thousand other reasons not to have the HO option. Bottom line, you can still save big if you just settle for a little less. And this one's paid in full. I do realize that the price of the newer ones has risen dramatically; even for something similar to the one I have. For that reason, I'll end with how I started my post: Pricing is the problem for reduced sales; not features and body styles.
I’ve put 45k miles on my 68RFE with 37” and it’s great!
Yup. The 68s is NOT the same 68 from the mid 2000s. It has a completely different valve body, snap rings, and clutches. The issue is when guys tune their Cummins to 600hp/1300lb-ft of torque and don't touch the trans. Firepunk diesel here on YT are the 68 whisperers on their built Ram trucks.
I’ve got 103k on mine and I’m tuned and deleted on 35’s. Knock on wood it’s been great. I definitely don’t beat on it but I do like to give it the beans from a stop light fairly often lol.
2013 68rfe. 40's since brand new. Efi live tuning/ deleted. Stock trans made it to 260,000km. She had a hard life. Got a gully built heavy duty trans for $6500. With the price of new trucks ill be keeping this one forever
2022 at around 42K on 35in tires towing daily around 15K. Zero issues thus far and very happy with how it tows like a freight train.
@@coryhimmelspach1101 you had me Googling who “gully” was as a transmission builder because I had never heard of them and then it hit me it was just a typo and you meant “fully” 🤦🏻♂️😂
Price in my opinion is the biggest issue. Then i would agree with the smaller cab size, shorter bed on the standard bed option and yes, low payload number on a 3/4 ton diesel.
Ram has been building the HD trucks in Saltillo MX since 2105. When I placed my order for one in 2015 delivery was scheduled from their truck plant in Saltillo MX.
Those cabs are plenty big enough.
Great job and info! I've been a ram ,mopar guy all my life. My first cummins 1992 was a 1991. I've owned 36 of them threw out the years.The ram truck was always a great truck, but the 22-23's with all the problems.. recall after recall.. I traded my ordered 22 3500 for the f350 SRW. No regrets. Your absolutely right, they need to up there game!
Jim
Owned a 14 ram dually limited for 10 years, great truck well built and great for work and towing heavy. Just purchased a 24 Ford Platinum 7.3l gas Tremor model, had ram a better V8 I most likely would have stuck with Ram.
How are you liking the 7.3 gasser and the 10spd so far? I’m actually seriously considering making the same move from my Cummins very soon. Absolutely love my Cummins and there’s not a thing wrong with it but I’m just itching for a new truck and no longer need a diesel.
@@SoonerMikeD I am happy with it so far. The 10 speed is spot on, seems to always be in the right gear and happy to shift and shift fast. For an F350 it feels like a toy in comparison to my old Ram 1 ton dually.
Why did u go backwards ford junk
Max toque 1900rpm red line 3200 un like v-8 takes morerpm to get same toque as cummins
😂, hardly. These new Fords are very well built. @@randyjedneak8698
I have a 2023 RAM 3500 HO Cummins with the AISIN transmission. I'm still trying to figure out what's harsh about that transmission. It shifts smoothly for me. Towing or not.
The 1-2 gear shift is not very smooth
I agree, my 18 (same as yours) shifts great all the way through.
People complain about it compared to the more refined RFE. Once they learn about how great the durability has been they're usually fine. I do wish it held gears and lugged more like the RFE does. Sometimes it's a little too quick to downshift, especially considering the Cummins doesn't mind operating @ 1200rpm.
I think the harshess is more pronounced with certain rear gear ratios. On my 5500 with 4.88's it is extremely predictable, I know at what rpms at a given throttle command when the trans will lock up or shift.
Y’all remember years ago a when a extended cab trucks were family trucks of 4-5 people and life just kept going and dad had to have his speaker box that didn’t fit all the way under the back seat lol but life was good
The biggest con is it’s mostly the same truck from 2010 but with a light interior refresh and different headlights convinced people to call it a 5th gen.
I’ve been saying this ever since!
I told you I didn't think 2025 was going to be the year for a full refresh. Looks like i was right.
I have no problems with the same truck. I have a problem with the same truck for a poop-ton more money. If they plan on keeping it the way it is market and price it as the average person's towing truck. They wouldn't be able to make them fast enough if they kept their prices lower. Not everybody needs the extra the others offer, but if they cost about the same why pay more for less?
I still have to park the rig at a Store. How big can you go before its to big. or when a TRUCK starts looking like a Mini Van.
I’d just pick up a 2024 for a huge discount if I had to stick with Ram. The 25 doesn’t sound worth it because they will want MSRP. I’d give the new transmission a year to make sure the bugs are worked out. So I guess I’ll wait for 2026 or just get a GM or ford😂
I would normally recommend the same thing but:
1) ZF's Powerline has already been out in true medium duty trucks.
2) When the ZF 8HPs came to market in 2011 they were great. We've continued to have excellent durability from the ZF trans for the 10+ years Mopar has used them. Based on this my expectation is the trans will be great from Job 1.
None of these manufacturers know what a real work truck should be anymore. All they want to build is fancy crap and big screens in the dash.
They make lot of lower models without all that, nobody forces you to buy the fancy stuff. It might shock you to learn that people like to work AND be comfortable doing it
I like the cab size. I don’t have kids and the backseat is always folded and just for cargo. I like the better maneuverability of the smaller ram cab/bed.
This is after owning a crew long bed F350 Platinum, so I’ve had both ends of the spectrum. They each have a place for sure.
my truck (2014 ram 2500/Cummins) is fully stock and the 68RFE still blew the accumulator plate. Had to get a valve body from Randy's Transmissions.
From a guy that’s been driving semis most of his life, you absolutely can’t go wrong with more gears. They help you speed up as well as slow down. They give you options to stay in the power at all times. I think they need to at a minimum use an 8 speed but a 10 would be money
10 is to much ford's and Chevy almost never use all 10
@@moparjr89 if you’re towing heavy they use them all. They only skip shift when empty or very little load
As a GM guy we delt with smaller cabs for years. It took 2019 refresh for us to have large cabs with more room in back seat. Plus having head rest that hit your head and not the lower part of your neck.
I bought a 2020 ram 1500 Laramie new and I ended up recently selling it and going back to Chevy. Although the interior was great and so was the tech, the constant rear window leak (replaced 3 times within 20k miles), exhaust manifolds cracking and the wind noise that couple different dealers could never figure out I decided to part ways with it. Powertrain wise never had any issues.
What is the deal with wanting a 7 foot bed, plywood is 8 feet.
My cab on my 19 ram 3500 is perfect for me . I want a cheaper price . I'm into a truck for a truck not into luxury trucks.
Is Cummins ever gonna address the frid heater bolt failure or is every 07 and up 6.7 a ticking time bomb (unless they get the Banks mod)?
My 68RFE is doing fine in my 2012. Has never missed a beat. Been running a 100hp tune for about six years I think with a trans tune. Probably have never had my foot clear to the floor. It's been on 37s for a couple years and 35s before that.
I've got an HD ZR2 on order right now. Ram just pricey and not offering much new since 2019.
I think they should make the Mega Cab standard on all trim levels. 8 speed Transmissions would be good for the HD on Board power, which would be ok. Underneath and in the seat storage would help sell as well. Make the Ram Boxes available on the 3500 HD as well for guys and girls that use their trucks in various fields and would need that space for tools and things. Airbags in the rear should be standard on all levels on the 3500 Duallies. Just my take on it. Absolutely the prices are the main problem on all new trucks. Bigger discounts and price drops are what's needed for all HD trucks in general
Great Video! Thanks for the news. I think if the ZF Powerline transmission works out like it should, Everyone will quickly forget about the 68RFE and the Aisin,
As far as the hotshot guys you literally see 95% of them driving rams.
Yeah 3 years straight and I see 99% ram for hotshot. 2 Duramax dually's. 3 powerstroke. One classic western using a gooseneck trailer. And a Toyota TRD hauling a 40 foot big tex gooseneck. I've seen two really rare truck configurations as often as a duramx towing. 😂
From my understanding, the ZF going behind the Cummins is different than the ZF behind the HD hemis (supposed to be a very stout transmission (not saying the ZF behind the hemi doesn't also work great)
I'm 6'3" and drive a 4th gen 2500 crew cab with the 6' bed. I've never thought of the cab as small 🤷♂️. More payload would be nice for the 2500s, but getting a stout transmission in there would be amazing and make me want a new truck. I'm kind of a Ram fanboy so a better transmission is really the only thing I see missing from these trucks 🤣.. maybe in 15 years I'll be able to afford a 2025 😋
The 8 speed gassers use the 8HP versions. Depending on application from V8 grand cherokees all the way to Hellcats they vary in sizes. 8HP60, 75, 80 etc. The ZF in the new HD diesels are the Powerline series. Completely different designed transmissions with PTO's. These are commercial designed transmissions from the ground up.
I was actually hoping for more with the Ram redesign. That cab is a little tight. I have a 2024 GMC 3500 AT4. When I get around at looking to trade at the end of 2025 I will likely be in another GMC or Chevy. I will look at Ram at that time but GMC has a huge edge already for me after hearing this.
The other BIG issue you did not bring up is the massive MSRP that will come along with the new high level trim and drivelines.
Ram should spend time developing an EGR filter, like what FASS EGR Systems, is working on, so the engine can trap more DPM and run up to 85% cleaner.
That truck is the same color as my srw 2021 3500 ho. I love the Aisin transmission, personally. No issues towing at all.✌️
Traded in my deleted 4th gen for a 22 3500 mega limited night edition. Love the interior and headlamps, the only thing I’m hating so far is not being able to delete and tune. The aisin trans is rough but it’s reliable.
I had 2 Dodge diesels, 2500 & 3500 dually with the "junk" trans that everyone talks about. Most of the 2500 251K miles when I owned it was towing horse trailers, job trailer, boat and tractor. Approx 40% of the 207K miles I put on my 3500 was towing 42' living quarter horse trailer all over NC, TN & VA mountains, skid steer or boat. At alternating oil changes, I had the transmission filter changed at one service, front/rear diffs and transfer case lube change on next service. Some people say it's overkill on the service, but knowing I towed a lot and towed heavy often, just made sense. Both trucks were running and towing great when I traded them, neither truck ever had trans issues with the so-called "junk" transmissions. Both trucks were stock.
On the other hand, a guy I know loved my 2500 so he found a used one with around 30k miles on it. The previous owner had changed the exhaust and added a 6-pack tuner. Around 65K miles and him keeping that tuner turned up because it was "cool", it ripped the trans apart. About 10k miles later the engine grenaded itself. Then he started trashing Dodge trucks and cummins engines after having to get a second loan to replace the engine. Also know a guy that blew up 3 powerstroke engines from doing the same thing. He finally figured out he was the problem and stopped installing tuners in new trucks, still drives Ford trucks but hasn't destroyed a powerstroke since he learned a very expensive lesson. And he learned the powerstroke didn't need a tuner to tow loaded horse trailers.
Underrated advice!
Wish more people had this level of common sense and willingness to do preventative maintenance. You'll probably have an excellent experience with any new vehicle or piece of equipment.
JB you’re a good dude but nothing beats the Allison Transmission …….
I’ll go along with that except for the fact that the last Allison you can get the Chevy was in 2019 Allison doesn’t make a 10 speed if you don’t believe me call him what they make now is an Allison branded transmission which is the partnership of ford, GM and the joint venture, 10 speed, nightmare, buildoh boy
A true Allison, sure. What gets put in GMs isn't an Allison made transmission,.
Allisons are not put in pickups anymore and are very highly overrated
@@Valkyrie1911 Yup, it's like buying a John Deere tractor from home depot and thinking you're actually getting a John Deere tractor.
As a four-year owner of a 2018 Ram 1500, I’ve spent over six months at the dealership due to electronic problems, an engine replacement at 72k miles, and a transmission failure at 84k miles. Reliability of the new Ram just isn’t worth the investment. I’ve poured an extra $25k into repairs on top of the initial $50k purchase. In summary, the new Ram 1500’s reliability doesn’t justify the time and money spent.
Ya know what truck makes me happy? 2018 Ram Laramie 4x4 Diesel with Ram Box. 35,000 miles. $60,000 and all paid off.
You are right on! The smaller, 4th Gen cab is a dealbreaker for me (compared to my current 5th Gen 1500, and what Ford and GM HDs are now offering). Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see a new ZF 8-speed transmission too, but if they want to compete toe-to-toe and sell more trucks, they should absolutely move to the newer cab (that honestly should have come out back in 2019 alongside the truly 5th Gen 1500).
If they built a 6-passenger Laramie 3500 similar to my current 1500 (6.5’ bed, full leather, heated/cooled seats, 360 camera, adaptive cruise, and all the other bells and whistles) but with the HD payload and a 6.7 Cummins hooked up to an 8-speed ZF, I’d order one tomorrow.
This is a huge bummer, if true. I will be in the market for a one ton in the next two years and was hoping to have a beautiful new Ram to check out with an updated diesel and transmission. If the cab doesn’t change, I will certainly get a GMC Denali Ultimate.
I'm slowly moving towards upgrading my ram 1500 to a 3/4 ton pickup of some kind. Right now I'm picking chevy. The extra 6" or 7" bed length and auto 4wd are enough to move me away from ram. My 1500 has been the best truck I've ever owned and I'd love to stay with ram but I'm dead set on at least auto 4wd.
The others MAY have better performance, but they don't have better towing. Nothing beats a Cummins!
I had a dually exactly like that except mine was a mega cab
I have a 2023 RAM POWER WAGON 6.4 HEMI and its darn good for my needs..I will buy a 2025 RAM POWER WAGON 6.4 HEMI....
I had a few already my 2014 went 184,000 miles before I sold it no issues..I only sold it to get a new one..I had a programmer and other mods and it improved 0-60 to mid 6 second range..Yes other makes might be quicker stock but I never raced at the lights,I did beat a few cars that tried but I know my limitations ...for that I have 10 second to 12 second 1/4 mile cars classics to modern..Hellcat Challenger and a low 11 second 1970 Charger 500 with a built/stroked 383 now 496 c.i did that time with a 3 speed auto and hwy gearing 2.94 axle ratio!!
My only complaints on the 68RFE is that it can be a little slushy during high speed acceleration, and it could benefit from a 7 speed configuration for sure. Make first gear a little bit lower with a .60:1 3rd overdrive or better yet retain the double OD with a tighter split from 1-5 with a 3.60 first
I'd like a ratio between the current 5th-6th gears for when I'm pulling my tall camper. When towing I like to drive 67mph, 5th is too low with reduced economy (rpm too high) and 6th is too tall (1500rpm). I end up driving 72mph @ 1750rpm in 6th so it doesn't kick down as much. The ZF trans has earned my respect, excited to see how it pulls compared to my RFE. Had great luck with the RFE since my 2007, not bashing it, it's just a little out dated.
One of the biggest frustrations I have with the HD Rams is the lack of a telescoping steering wheel. Tilt only. You’ve gotta be kidding me.
I have a 2011 super duty 6.7 with over 400k miles and I am looking to get something newer, not new. It has a 8" sus lift 38x15.50x20 tires and I use it daily towing dirt and rock for my landscape business. I have never had 1 issue with the tranny or engine. I was considering ram because of the exhaust brake and was looking at the 2019's, but I'm not sure after hearing about the hydraulic lifters and tranny issues. Any suggestions?
My 68RFE went out at 90K miles. The truck was completely stock. I traded it last month for the chevy with the L8T.
Ram NEEDS to introduce the 1500 crew cab on the HD chassis. Ram has the smallest HD crew cab on the market. It’s quite small
I've been holding out on ordering a new work truck hoping for updates to the Transmission. I've been having issues with my Asin and know of a couple other people with issues as well. I bought a 23 HO F450 and I have to admit the 10 speed transmission is awesome, no slouch in the power department either. fingers crossed they change everything
I had a 68RFE in my first RAM 3500 and really liked it - better than either of my Aisins. The problem came when I tried selling the RAM with the 68RFE. No one wanted to buy my RAM because it didn't have the Aisin. Ended up selling it to a dealer.
The dodge transmission has a reputation for shitting the bed
I love everything on my 2021 including cab size and bed choices. I would change the: sliding console, sunroof size, and better factory batteries/tires.
As a 4th gen owner, the cab and trans need to be changed. I think one 8 speed trans should be used for both so and HO trucks. The cab is just too small compared to the competition.
They need to stop putting the grid heaters in that can take the engines out from a stupid bolt and nut failure. I have a 2018 3500 dually with the HO and Aisin and 410 gears in silver, I
m throwing on a bunch of banks products and running hot shot secret additives and don't ever plan on buying new again. Maybe a 1st 2nd or 3rd gen for kicks.
The reason they are selling slowly these days could just be people are waiting for the 2025s. 😮
The Cummins diesel scandal didn’t help either…
Hey there thanks for the reviews very Helpful can u do one on the 2023 ram 1500 Trans I am having issues with shifting !!! Thanks
Not sure why a bigger cab is desirable. If I thought it were possible for my uses, and my girlfriend would agree to it, I would buy a regular cab. I need the capabilities towing but the size can be inconvenient.
@jellybeanjoe8597 Or if you are a business and you have 5 guys commuting 45 minutes to an hour to the job site. Desirable.
That's for sure! Just seems I rarely see anyone in the back seat?@@jimingvaldson7076
Instead of a redesign I need a truck that’s more affordable
Nobody is stopping you from making more money
So make 100k just to throw it away on something worth 70k Got it thanks for the amazing knowledge smart ass
I LIKE THE CUMMINGS TURBO DIESEL ENGINES 3500 PICK UP TRUCK ❤❤
"Cummins" there isn't a g in the name
I think the Dodge ram 3500 four-door Cavs are excellent I've been in the Ford and I've been in the Chevy I choose the Dodge ram any day the Cavs does not need to be bigger that would be absolutely stupid
They want to sell more trucks, do all these changes and drop the price. This will scramble the market. If they add all this content and increase the cost they will slow orders even more. If they add all these changes and beef up the engine, trans, and frames then maybe they can up the cost some. All the truck owners I know switched from Ram to GM recently and they absolutely love how they tow huge and heavy loads.
I do think ram should continue to offer this smaller cab, and maybe make a larger version on a longer wheelbase. I for one don't want a bigger cab. The rear isn't used enough. I would rather have an easier to turn truck, so I like the Quad and short bed. But I know I am probably not the target audience.
My 68rfe went out at 130,000 miles. Hardly ever towed anything. Just look on the internet. The 68rfe is junk. I got one made stage2 billet shaft upgraded pump and clutches for 7,000. Transmission shop told me they rebuild those transmissions all the time. I called 5 shops that wouldn’t even touch it! 2018 ram 2500
They better make the cab bigger, damnit. You can tell when you put kids back there. Ridiculous.
Agreed with some others, truck prices have gotten completely out of hand and the ram cabs definitely need to be bigger. I have a 2015 ecodiesel , 2016 ford f250 and a 2021 f150 and both ford's cabs are much bigger.
Aisin will blow with anything over 60hp tune for anyone wondering and asking lol
Also if you run a thermo bypass with the 68 will help it a lot.
BUT I REALLY LIKE THE 6.4 HEMI ENGINE 2500 LONG BED
Ram lost me. I have 2 2nd gen 2500 5.9's and I just bought a brand new 6.7 FORD. If im going to pay outrageous prices for a new truck, im buying the more efficient, the faster, the more powerful truck, with a bigger bed and cab. I could not wait any longer for ram to modernize their truck that is as old in many ways as the SIX POINT FOUR powerstroke. A giant screen and a very dated cummins engine will not sell these trucks especially considering the 6.7 power stroke is proven and this isn't the 2000's anymore for super duties.
I 100% agree they have to make a bigger cab it's a must also I have a 22 2500 cummins with the 68rfe and my truck is bone stock except for 35 12 20 tires and it is flawless I love the truck
That’s heart breaking news.
My son-in-law has a Raptor and that cab is huge from side to side and that’s what Ram needs to do . But me myself that cab they have now is fine but if you want to keep up with Jones make wider .
💯 on point cab/body is the most important thing for me
Tells Larry H Miller, I bought my 2019 Megacab diesel 4WD BigHorn, air ride, Full LED, Camera, Adaptive cruise truck for about 56k back in the day from Peterson Dodge. Once they get close to that price range, ill come buy..... until then......
Pretty sure he doesn't care....
@@kirkdunn1379 probably not
Are you going to stop eating until groceries go back to 2019 prices also?
Ram’s in serious trouble. Hold on folks, these trucks gonna have massive fire 🔥 sale discounts later this year!
I loved my Ram 1500 really wanted an HD but they have such low payload and out of date. Went Chevy this time.
Great video! I loke the Rams. I do agree that the cabs need to be bigger. The bed options are fine because you can get the short bed or a long bed. The diesels DEFINITELY need help in the payload department on the 2500s. I saw a 2020 Limited diesel 4x4 that had only 1700lbs of payload, but can tow 20,000lbs. How? Also the Hemi could use more power. It's hard to beat that 7.3L. Lastly, they need to be built in Almerica at a lower price. Paying almost $60k for a Tradesman is pretty ridiculous
Love your videos. You influenced me to buy one. Came from a 1500 Ram.
I'm here in my 21 single cab cab and Chassis, hearing you say the cabs are small, thinking about the 18 F-550 I had been in? Yeah, hell no. As far as the single cabs go, RAM kicks Ford's butt, and then some. Have a buddy at a different company in a 24 F600 single cab (same as 550 essentially), and you can barely put anything behind the seats.
Can't speak to the Crew.
Agree. I would prefer an HD ZF8, half ton cab and more bed room, and a bump up hp on standard output. Ram HD are too expensive to still be riding old body an platform.
I have a 18 high output with aisin. I pull 30k. The truck struggles a bit between gears, would love to see an 8 speed. I actually would love to have a quad cab long box dually. If I got a shortbox, I would like a bigger crew cab, in the back seat, along with more legroom up front.
Omg everyone complaining about this cab and how it needs to be done and it is old and blah blah. Yes i welcome change to a larger cab im excited for when that does happen but lets not forget ford. When the new super duty came out in 1999 they used that cab till 2016 with front and rear refresh. Now ram does it and everyone loses there shit. Ford and gm would not be where they are today if it wasn't for ram. They been riding rams shirt tails for years trying to keep up with rams payload, towing, and luxurious interior. Plus when ford does towing tests they have to put there f450 up against the 3500 ha. Anyways i love ram trucks they have taken care of me but all i can say is we welcome change we are hoping for it but take yr time and get it right and blow the other 2 out of the water
Ok, so the 392 is still going to be available. I thought all of the Hemi engines were gone for 2025.
6.4L BGE is still alive. Rumor has it a Cummins 6.7L gas is in development. We'll see, I think the big fleets would do well with the simplicity and reduced maintenance of either gasser.
My 5.9 third gen is just fine and will be for 20 more years. That is with 6 speed Allison from ATS coming up :)
And the reason a lot of the trucks haven't been selling because people got their old ones and they're not trying to buy a new truck and make new payments that's a stupid idiotic
I love the Aisin Transmission unloaded and I don’t really tow with my 3500 🤷🏽♂️ I don’t see why people say it’s horrible…
I guess I will be keeping my 2017 3500 Laramie dually hell it only has 15k I guess I might as well start driving it more !