These companies are nothing but gaslighters trying to shame workers and normalize wage theft. If I only get paid to work 9/5, then that's what you get. I don't get to pay stuff at the supermarket and then return to grab a few more things without paying them. That's nothing but theft.
These worthlessPiecesofHumanWaste in business and government and their personal in the Media came up with this word as a way to then pressure young people into ChinaStyle slave labor. They know 100s of millions of baby boomers are retiring worldwide this decade who were born after WW2, so they need to get labor of you people. The Labor movement has sold out to the politicians for the last 75 years. This is all part of the "GREA,TR,ESET" and will get 100 times worse. Young people please don't start a family or get pregnant at this time. Companies/Government/organizations have no loyalty to employees they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Governments are also increasing authoritarianism while helping the Globalist elites to consolidate all wealth/power. To ensure no slavery like life, girls should remember to take the birth control pill daily and both guy/girl should use protection and consider Tubal Ligation which is a quick procedure. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. The system in all countries ks getting worse now and children born now will suffer. Imagine your child living in a technically advanced meaning more brutal total surveillance Communist or dictatorship style society as that is the planned future if you choose to have kids. So by having children you are purposely causing them to be born to a life of suffering for your own selfishness in a way.
Quiet offshoring of good jobs. They’ve been making bank on the suffering of the working class for as long as I’ve been in the workforce. I’m not sorry for the CEOs one bit.
The stats show that worker that works at same company for 10 years makes up to 50% less than same worker changing jobs. And it's true. I gained experience and switched jobs now I make 2x more than in my previous job. You should constantly look for better job get the experience etc. Because after 2-4 years they start to give you more things to do without extra pay.
She literally sold her company, huffington post, so she could live her life freely. But gets mad when others want to leave and live their life if they aren’t paid enough.
Yah, and the funny part is she got rich because she was married to a rich husband (Michael Huffington) that died and left her all of his money. She was a staunch Republican before he died (and he ran for Senator of California) and after he died she became a raging leftist.
Thank you for sharing your experience.all the baby boomers in my family weren't rewarded for their work ethic. They've always told me you just get more work and burnt out.
@@anitaknight3915 My grandfather worked for a company for 40 years and he only earned a trophy that he proudly displays in his room that I'm sure they bought for like $20.
I just see all of this as propaganda. I had a middle aged coworker that came from the Soviet Union. He was not a fan of communism first off (hence why he came here). It was really interesting talking to him about quality of life and work in a completely foreign economic system. He would tell me how they wanted to create "the new man" it was always about this "new man". I sorta think what's happening now with companies shaming us for not going the extra mile for no extra pay is the capitalist version of creating "the new man".
The backlash to "quiet quitting" is the inevitable end result of a system that rewards narcissism and psychopathy in the workplace. Refusing to break your back for a company that doesn't value you isn't even a radical position.
Meanwhile, my partner is on prescription pain killers because their last job literally caused a slipped spinal disc. But we're too poor to sue the employer
@@iamthesamrus because office politics and promotion generally require one or the other to get ahead. and well, the whole "the boss has all of the power" dynamic of most offices means that management often attracts narcissists and psychopaths. (both of which are charming and social)
@@iamthesamrus CEO is one of the top 10 career choices for Psychopaths, as they make up to 25% of CEOs (as of the most recent studies I've read, whereas in the general population, it's 1-3% (depending on the study), worldwide).
The billion dollar company I currently work for is constantly cutting hours to "save money," and yet when we limit our availability, you know to have a life, they get pissed. If you don't want us to Quiet Quit and Joyfully Join instead, how about you Proudly Pay.
Same, major name company, we have to come in late mornings on the nights we close to limit overtime, but here, learn this new job skills and expand your knowledge, raise-free.
@@itsjustme5030 Yes, I completely understand. That is called a lateral or horizontal promotion. More duties, more responsibilities, more risk, but NEVER more money. When companies offer these types of promotions, DECLINE them. The company will probably use bull$h!t phrases like..."This move is a stepping stone towards an actual promotion later," or "We want to see how you'll do in this position first before we actually promote you." These are all LIES. The promotion never comes no matter how hard you work or how well you do. They just use your cheap labor to make profit for themselves.
@@starbrand3726 I agree with you. We are "upgrading" our system and work flow is shifting because of it, so right now there is little room to say no because one system will soon be obsolete. My biggest pet peeve is our team has 3 people who constantly make the same errors over and over and we aren't allowed to correct or retrain them, and management won't step in other than to tell the remaining team members to fix the errors and move on for the sake of "teamwork." I don't mind fixing an error if waiting for the one who made it will take longer than me fixing it and it's occasional. But there's a huge difference between "helping" and "enabling" and I have no doubt that some of the people who are quiet quitting are experiencing something similar. I'm in the middle of a major purchase, but when the ink is dry on the mortgage, I have a standing offer at another company. I'll at least be leaving that mess behind even if this new job has its own issues.
@@itsjustme5030 I learned a long time ago, when real opportunity knocks, answer it. I truly hope everything works out for you. Maybe one day American workers will wake up and say enough is enough so hard working people don't have to put up with this corporate crap anymore.
When I read this and watched the CNBC interview with Kevin O'Leary one thing totally stuck out: they're scared to death of quiet quitting. Using terms like, "it's a cancer" or "invasive species" tells me they probably already know it's present in their own businesses. What scares them is the fact they've feasted on extra, free labor for decades without a thought of the cost it exacts on their employees and now they're finally realizing that people are tired of getting screwed over. Amazing video!
True. I used to do work beyond my job. I do work management previously did. Did I get promoted? No. They promoted a friend. I used to do 30 tasks daily. I’ve been reducing the number by 1 every day. Now I do 20 to 25 tasks per day. No more!
@@jtelk4708 same here. To me what they're not understanding is for the first time in nearly 700 years labor has an advantage and they really always have. All managers have to do is treat people with respect, help them not worry about money and they'll get all the production they want.
The best explanation I've heard is: Before covid, the fear of the unknown kept a lot of people in terrible jobs and the idea was 'any job is better than no job' and then covid happened and upended everything. but we got through it and now the fear of the unknown isn't as strong as it was before. so now people are saying. 'I'd rather have no job than this job.' (which is the great resignation). Quiet quitting is 'this job is only slightly barely better than no job. so I'm giving my exact minimum energy required to keep it because I don't care if I lose it'
Imagine paying stuff at the supermarket, and then returning to grab a few more things without paying them. That's theft. If I only get paid to work 9/5, then that's what you get. If you want me to work more, then you PAY me more. These companies are nothing but gaslighters shaming workers while trying to normalize wage theft.
Josh, what you termed "quiet firing" is precisely what happened to my brother and me back when we worked together at a nightmare chicken joint. We went "above and beyond" for years with false promises of raises, promotions, and time off while understaffed and in terrible working conditions. It wasn't worth it. My brother got out first, managing to reverse his burnout after only three months. It took a severe skin infection caused by one of the manager's last cut corners before I came to my senses. I discovered the hard way that the food-safe sanitizer fluid I was cleaning food surfaces with wasn't sanitizer. It was a dangerous corrosive. They didn't have medical insurance or allowed for time off to heal either. When I realized my manager at the time would just kick my dead body to check if I was faking it and then only call the ambulance to get my corpse out of the way or if a customer complained. I vowed to never go back. It took 3 weeks to beat back the infection and far longer to beat the burnout. I may be making peanuts freelancing right now, but I have my health and sanity back. You can't put a price on that.
Dude skin infections are insane. I got my first one in 2020 and it took me 6 months to get some skin back. 2 years later I have problems, scars, and hefty dietary restrictions. Hope you healed ok. No job is worth a dang skin infection!!!!
Do not start a family and use protection. The system depends on your slave labor but only after you have a child knowing if you are better than an animyou wont abandon your child and will work hard to take care of them. Live a minimalist list or with your parents if they are caring people who you have a good relationship with. Asian, African and Middle eastern parents dont try to kick out their kids at 18 years old and that is what Western parents need to learn to help their children savings wated on apartments. These worthlessPiecesofHumanWaste in business and government and their personal in the Media came up with this word as a way to then pressure young people into ChinaStyle slave labor. They know 100s of millions of baby boomers are retiring worldwide this decade who were born after WW2, so they need to get labor of you people. The Labor movement has sold out to the politicians for the last 75 years. This is all part of the "GREA,TR,ESET" and will get 100 times worse. Young people please don't start a family or get pregnant at this time. Companies/Government/organizations have no loyalty to employees they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Governments are also increasing authoritarianism while helping the Globalist elites to consolidate all wealth/power. To ensure no slavery like life, girls should remember to take the birth control pill daily and both guy/girl should use protection and consider Tubal Ligation which is a quick procedure. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. The system in all countries ks getting worse now and children born now will suffer. Imagine your child living in a technically advanced meaning more brutal total surveillance Communist or dictatorship style society as that is the planned future if you choose to have kids. So by having children you are purposely causing them to be born to a life of suffering for your own selfishness in a way..
This is rich, coming from Arianna Huffington, who didn't pay writers and instead relied on free content "for exposure" for like 13 years for Huffington Post.
@@barrydaemi6287 dude I'm a feminist. But this ain't feminism. Asking for equal rights Doesn't mean you exploit people. That's not feminism. That's narcissism.
Remember when she was trying to sound holistic and caring when she advocated for people to get more sleep, and shared her methods. Do you think she was applying those same methods and policies down to her HuffPo workers? Nope. One way or another these disconnected, socially inept CEOs will learn that this is the end of "trickle down theory", in all aspects. of life.
Does anyone else find it INCREDIBLY ridiculous and weird that doing your job, and meeting the average standard of doing so, is being associated with quiting?! It does not sound like a term an average worker came up with, especially considering that 99% of non-management workers totally agree with the logic behind "quiet quitting." It sounds more like something someone in a management position came up with to use as bad word for people who do their job and dont go above and beyond.
Great points. Nothing new with corporate America tho- they give you are target, and when we're successfully able to hit it consistently, they move it further down range as the "new standard" - but give you absolutely no incentive to do so. Wash, rinse, repeat.
it's classic shaming and dread tactics. if all of the workers are essentially racing each other to see who can NOT be "the first guy to leave early" then the company can't help but win because the new workload expectation goes up without management having to lift a finger. just comment on how "oh that guy left early. huh. not a team player." All stick. no carrot. companies love that. Especially since it really screws up what "meets expectations" means when it comes time for reviews.
If you don't get paid to go above and beyond, then you don't WORK above and beyond - because that bonus/raise ISN'T coming. Common sense to live by that triggers CEOs to no end.
@@Ezberron too bad it don't work on me. I'm proudly called dog fker by my 2 supervisors and they love working with me. Job is done and nothing else matters, me going for longer breaks, me fking off home earlier, chilliing watching youtubez and other stuff. I'm also lucky to have such sups. They know I don't care for anything extra but I'm a person they don't have to ever worry about doing my job.
@@YapCentral3 The video literary gave the definition of Quiet Firing, which the poster above is equating to Quiet Theft = in other words, working beyond the 40 hours your salary is based on is THEFT. Anything beyond the 40 hours the poster is considering Quiet Theft. I guess reading and interpreting words is hard for you. I hope you don't have a college degree, because your school failed you.
@@YapCentral3 No, people do their job every day. They just are no longer willing to work overtime for free, take on additional jobs that they aren't paid to do, work days that they were not originally hired to work, etc. You seem to have missed the entire point of what people are doing.
What companies are doing is called quiet pay cuts… by not backfilling & giving you their work… then at most giving slight increases that are way under inflation. If you got a 2% increase this past year - you actually got something like an 8% pay cut! To cover this up, they manufactured this quiet quitting thing to focus everyone’s attention away from what they are doing!
Boomers worked 40 hour weeks and had everything they wanted. A house, 2 vehicles, one person could stay at home, 4 kids and have time to enjoy their family. Not now. 12 hour days, both family members work a job, kids are raised by school, teachers are parents and 6 day work weeks.
DB - You are spot on. I work in the oilfield and make a 6-digit salary. My wife is a stay home mom and I am gone for weeks on end. Home for 4 or 5 days then gone again. It is disgusting. White collar profits from blue collar. And being a rough neck and putting your health and life at risk to make a proper pay should be called black collar. It's a terrible life. But many of us do it. Long gone are the days where the economy and cost of living were regulated better.
That was unavoidable for the simple inclusion of women in workforce. No that is not prejudice it is math. The market has X amount of resources to pay. If you double the workforce (and that basically did happen) that pressures the wages DOWN. That is simple offer vs demand of work. Not saying it is wrong for women to work, just pointing that it is not VALID to compare the 50's economic model with current one because the society is completely different.
@@tiagodagostini And society will change again. People are going to end up flipping the table on the Establishment, and do their best to get out of debt and become self-sufficient...if not just straight up revolt if there is a draft for another stupid forever war. The only way to stop these parasites is to starve them, because violence means they will just go back into hiding when they lose, and await for another unwary generation to exploit. I think we do need to learn how to become self-sufficient and live without money. It's the only way out of the cycle of rising and falling empires.
@@tiagodagostini or it could be from having more immigration. or it could be that companies exploit us because they can. i have never once read any research or book that gave any evidence that women starting to work led to decreased wages compared to inflation
That’s right. There’s a time and a place for everything, right? Work belongs at work, from 8-5. Giving things that don’t belong to you rent-free space in your head is called obsessing.
We are simply witnessing/experiencing class warfare right now. The Shutdown left many without a job, and the companies that did continue to operate, treated their employees like shit because there was nowhere else to go. We were under staffed, under paid, and overworked, so we did the only thing we could do, find a new job once companies/organizations started to hire again. With the hiring freeze thawing out, companies lost the whip of unemployment to control us and don't want to give out the carrot to increase employee motivation/productivity. So now we have companies and the news trying to shame us or re-establish the whip of fear to layoffs if we don't go the extra mile for no extra pay everyday.
Imagine paying stuff at the supermarket, and then returning to grab a few more things without paying them. That's called theft. If I only get paid to work 9/5, then that's what you get. If you want me to work more, then you PAY me more. These companies are nothing but gaslighters shaming workers while trying to normalize wage theft.
I was scrolling looking for this comment. Come to think of it, a lot of the "quiet quitting" articles in my feed seem rather similar - perhaps the writers have first hand experience with quiet quitting.
To be honest the quiet quitting media blitz is the result of Gen Z and young millennials constant need to share everything with the world. People 30 and up have been quiet quitting for decades while shutting the f*ck up and living their lives
Exactly! When i started working in 2012, there were already boomers starting to think about retirement, doing their way of "quiet quitting", bringing this mentality into the Office. Also, GenX, so the current 40-52 year old people were adjusting to this. In 3 companies, i had only ONE proper onboarding to the Job, they were not in the mood to onboard. In these companies my motiviation dropped drastically. So maybe these guys should consider why there is a global movement now
Pushing yourself is how your grow. I agree, which is why I push myself in areas outside my job. That is where the growth is. She's gaslighting, shaming and guilting. Wrapping it all up in pseudo-positivity to make it look like something wonderful. Remember, CEOs have among the highest percentage of psychopaths of any profession. Take everything a CEO says with a huge grain of salt.
Yes, most CEOs and Managers in Business and Government in general tend to be deviant or sadistic. Ypu will get the exceptional good manager but as long as its genuine and not to squeeze more work out of you and they are ensuring you dont get overworked and burned out then fine.
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 You know the obvious solution to this is boycotting any business that treats their employees crudely, but yeah let’s keep pretending businesses sustain themselves on fairy dust and not the business they obtain from the consumer of goods and services. “Ah, there’s so many psychopaths among managers and CEOs…” >purchases their product for the 10th, 100th or 1,000th time… Such a peculiar act of absurdity among humans.
I’m fairly lucky in that my workplace does allow part time work. When I took the deal, my then-boss didn’t understand (he still supported my decision). I explained to him I could find more growth by myself outside the company than inside, despite all the training the company provides. Outside, the growing is real and relevant. Inside, the learnings can be more easily proven because it will be easily labeled with certificates and jargon your managers understand, but it is not necessarily useful - especially not in a region where the headquarters isn’t. So I chose to have real growth even though I wouldn’t be able to use it to advance in my career just because managers can’t recognise the ability fundamentally without being previously endorsed by corporate.
Remember, whenever someone complains about Quiet Quitting, tell them the best way to combat it is by adopting European business standards. Employees get a mandatory thirty days of vacation per year, sign contracts on hire so they cannot be abruptly fired, and have strong unions to represent their needs.
I live and work in France and for the longest time, we've been saying this and American corporations keep pushing and pushing for the culture to change. We live for that "bare minimum" life.
@@dan44zzt231 Grass is still greener. 4 weeks, when 2 weeks is the gold standard for "respectable" (corporate office) jobs here in the US. And most any benefits package, generally meaning paid time off and health insurance, is reserved for full time workers - meaning 40 hours per week... 39.98 hours per week, no benefits for you. If you only have a part time job, you are basically considered to be unemployed, except you won't qualify for any federal or state assistance and potential employers will snub you because there might be "scheduling conflicts".
Not sure why companies are having a meltdown over "quiet quitting". It actually benefits the company. They don't have to pay the pitiful raises and/or bonuses that companies don't want to payout in the first place. Employees are willfully accepting that they will never advance and will never get the raises/bonuses because "it's not in the budget" per company cogs.
I think the main thing is that now they won't get extra work out of people without extra pay. Places like Walmart thrive on the fact that their employees put in more work that what they're actually being paid for.
What is odd is that employers who under pay, don't offer basic items like decent health insurance or are all around scum bags are not "Invasive" at all.
@@dubprocesslbc lets take it a step further and fix healthcare as a whole. until you change the perverse incentives, it doesn't matter where you get it.
Quiet quitting as you describe it sounds to me like taking the same stance that your employer takes toward you. They pay you no more than they have to. They hire no more employees than they have to. They don't even provide you with the best tools to do your job until they have to. BTW - I'm not opposed to doing more than my job requires, but I do it to improve my own value or keep habits that may get me a better situaton.
I don't see why quiet quitting is suddenly a huge problem, it's been going on for decades. Unless the number of people doing it has hit critical mass, leaving corporations panicking that nobody wants to go above and beyond for zero reward.
It’s like when the initial lazy, selfish and incompetent workers quiet quit first, they get away with it. But when the good workers realize their worth, then they’re the bad guy??
The problem today is the huge rise in the 'me me me...I expect everything now' group in our population. The concept of a 'real job' - and what that means, has been twisted by that pandemic of narcissistic thinking. 'Quiet quitting' by this group is far from "doing what you're paid to do" - instead, it is "getting away with as little work output as possible", and that's a big difference, a difference not lost on these organisations. These people will never, ever advance in their careers.
@@ChrisM541 Most of the jobs these people are working would never advance their careers, though. I agree on the rise of narcissism due to social media being around their whole lives essentially, but they aren't wrong with wanting to quit from companies that years ago would have given them enough money for a decent living, but now don't even make half what they have to pay in taxes if they want to live alone.
This can get so frustrating. Expecting employees to do more than they are worth gives the employer the expectation that their employees don’t need a raise.
not only that, when you simply do your job (and do it well) but don't put in extra hours or doesn't get involved in all and every possible issue going on at the company, you'll hear your manager saying that you don't "go that extra mile" to be recognized, and by that they mean "you're in line for the next round of ley offs". Instead of not getting a raise because you're not an workaholic, you start fearing for your job.
@@RainerLuizFonseca As a manager, confirm that it’s really hard to keep people in the system that just want to do their job well. Always get reviewed by exec team going why hasn’t that person done more than required…
@@RainerLuizFonseca that's a common tactic. dread. because its much much cheaper to use the stick (vague threat of possible firing) than actually use the carrot (here's some money to keep you around because you bust your ass)
I spent 15 years working hard for the same company for ultimately no recognition, and I was basically burning out in a toxic environment. I was in a dead end, essentially quiet fired as you put it. I had the choice to quiet quit, stop caring and just do the bare minimum taking advantage of my seniority. But I really couldn't see myself not caring after working so hard at that place for 15 years. So instead of quiet quitting, I really quit. Which came as a shock to the upper management, even though multiple other people had quit before me (and after), and even though I had been quite vocal about my frustration for a year before quitting. So now I'm in a much better atmosphere at a different company that appreciates expertise, and I'm wondering why the hell it took me so long to leave that toxic workplace in the first place.
Want to know something funny? I work in enterprise sales and sent Arianna Huffington a cold email and she, to my surprise, actually replied. She replied telling me to "find another job that doesn't require bothering people" The irony that this lady who, founded and runs THRIVE, wanting people to live, breathe, and die by work, is telling me to find a different job.
I’ve been “quiet quitting” the last 8 years. When I am not being paid enough, and I’ve had broken promises of promotions, I will look elsewhere. I’ve also learned to stop going above and beyond because it doesn’t get me where I want to be career wise nor financially. I “quiet quit” my last job and ended up with 30k more than my last job could ever offer. Fuck employeers and do you, because in the end they won’t.
Unions already had a term for this: the “work to” rule. Essentially, you do the bare minimum specified by the agreement. It is a type of strike that slows production due to so many unwritten workarounds not being done. If most people are starting to act this way without union organization, then you know something is systematically wrong. The problem is not the people. It is the owners who created this issue by being stubborn about easy moral boosting workflows like keeping remote work.
Came to the comments to say this. Not only was the thought already here but it was written more eloquently than I can. TLDNR : what obits said. Also, it's called a slow down.
My cousin once told me "If you don't value your time, nobody else will" - everything outside your 8hr days should be treated as precious. Only on VERY rare occasions should you work later. Even the best companies will abuse your time, if you don't create boundaries.
The best decision I ever made was to make my employees stop going “above and beyond” and to just focus on their job for 8 hours a day. This made them happier, we have great retention and everyone does awesome work. An unintended consequence is that when we actually need to go above and beyond because of an emergency, everyone does and we reward them for it. Funny how that works.
IKR, I’ve had guys on facilities maintenance crews that would crush 8 hours of work into 5 or 6. There was no way to let them go early without committing time clock fraud so unless something happened, I left them alone til COB. I got zero pushback then because “Tone’s actually pretty cool…”
I feel so privileged to live in France 🇫🇷 , we live for that "bare minimum" life. Some work environments are stressful especially in tech, but the laws protect us to an extent; its not perfect but its so much better than in so many places.
@japanwatchconnection it's not a problem, I'd rather feed a system like this than pay little taxes for a system that furthers the gap between the rich and the poor. Most universities are free, having access to universal Healthcare helps everyone and I benefitted from that. I'm happy to contribute my share now that I can.
@japanwatchconnection "Problem is your paycheck is heavily taxed." It's not a problem, it's a necessity if you're going to have a social state that attempts to take care of its citizens. I pay relatively high taxes, but I pay them knowing that doing so is a hell of lot better than the broken system that exists e.g. in the U.S.
@japanwatchconnection I live in Australia, we have universal health care, mandated 4 weeks paid annual leave, 2 weeks paid sick leave a year for permanent employees. Casuals get a 25% loading to cover those costs. on average we are taxed 1% more than the US, and my healthcare isn't tied to a job. Believe it or not America is a giant scam, the propaganda that you are all fed blind you to the fact that there are better ways to do things,. Your government, that you don't like paying taxes to, run ridiculous scare campaigns against "socialism" so that you all fight against your best interest. America is its own worst enemy, and you all lap it up.
@@WendyOryen Everytime I tried to quit they offered me a new position so that I didn't go, this happened 3 times so HR offered me 3 different possitions as long as I didn't go... I passed all the interviews and tests these 3 times and even got a job offer each time and starting date for each possition... but they always cancelled the offer on the day I was supposed to sign the contract leaving me back in my old position... Now, these interviews and tests took weeks, so I ended up staying about 5 extra months in hopes that they would honor their word in any of these 3 offers... when they cancelled the 3rd offer I already had my ressignation letter ready and HR dared to offer me a 4th possition so that I didn't quit... fuсk those аsshоlеs!
Lol...the company I work for when hiring managers which they already know in advance who the already want would have supervisors running around encouraging employees to apply for management so they could meet their applicants quota so they could start interviews and getting the pre selected managers hired ASAP. Many would apply but eventually caught on to the sham..
It's amazing how CEOs don't admit, that if an employee is working hard and is getting results that goes ''above and beyond'', there is 0 reason to promote him to a position, where his ''above and beyond'' is not going to be utilised. I am yet to see a manager, that is as engaged, as devoted and going ''above and beyond'' as his team he is supposedly supervising. Still waiting to see such a rare sight.
I've seen it once where a manager went above and beyond. He irritated alot of people. His health was visibly declining. He rapidly gained weight and his face changed color and shape. In the space of a year he went from young and dashing, to middle aged office worker.
Quiet quitting is the THE thing to do when when you‘re paid well enough not to leave, have a good station, and are surrounded by mostly good people who make it interesting to come to work everyday day. But not getting a raise for years, after moving heaven and earth for the company. Then actually getting a raise, but you find out that everyone is getting a raise along with you. Especially those who already quiet quitted years ago. And surprise,surprise! IT’S A 20€ INCREASE on top of the monthly salary!!! It was exactly after this that i joined the club. And all my colleagues kept telling me since the start that I worked too hard „You wont get a promotion from working hard in here. This isn’t that kind of place. They only pay more to new hires.“ they kept telling me. And I didn‘t believe them… untill that raise day. If I actually need the raise because of life costs, I‘ll change jobs. But for now, I‘ll just sit tight and squeeze the company for all the sim city time I can get out of it while being paid to do it, and teach it a lesson.
It's not so much quitting as it is work to rule. There's also a term for what the companies are doing when they expect un paid work - it's called wage theft.
Everything that CEO said is a cry for help. You can't go above and beyond without burning out. You can't just "find another job" when you have bills to pay. People are tired of slaving away for nothing. For more work, responsibility, and to exceed last week's expectations? It's insanity that people demand and condition people to make work their life and that some people actually go along with it without question. Do your job and go HOME.
I am Gen X and I can absolutely confirm that all working extra hard, doing more than you are paid to do, and going the extra mile gets you is more work and being used by your employer. Never doing another corporate office job again, thankfully I escaped and went freelance journalist 8 years ago and never looked back.
When you have tiger/dragon parents growing up, you learn how to quiet quit. Because getting more done is never rewarded, just do enough so they stay off your back and leave you alone. You will find your free time and fun time to mess around at school and use the stupid busy work school crap as padding against their BS extra work they try to pad on you. There has never been an incentive for me to do more or faster because that just leads to either getting more work, or get laid off because the company can now cut cost by eliminating your whole team, since the code is now rock solid with full automation and full test plan in place. F!@$%$ that crap! BTW, these are real life lessons from silicon valley, don't be a rat on that treadmill if you know what is good for you. The rat race ain't worth it!
Facts my guy Back in high school I needed my iPad to do my homework and chasing the whole "work first play later" mantra my parents kept repeating I'd blitz through my homework as fast as possible so I could play....and then they'd just take away the iPad when I was done. Work first play later became play first work later real fucking quick. No mom I'm not done with my homework after 6 hours and yes I know you see me playing games but what are you going to do about it?
After being to exposed to experimental medical procedures two years ago i do the absolute least amount posible and zero to help the company. You reap what you sow and you reap my backlash hate now forever.
As a Boomer I know how important labels are for my fellow Boomers, no matter how true, or untrue, the label becomes the reality. I propose changing the name of quiet quitting to Quietly Working. Quietly Working employees do everything you want them to do without dabbling in someone else's assigned tasks or boosting the real estate utility "buy" by staying past the workday. With a thousand Quietly Working employees you know how long a project will take as everyone works up to full speed without burn out. Yadda yadda yadda, more positive nonsense, you get the picture.
"Until you're paid the extra mile, just go the miles you're paid to go." Just going to share what I've learned about so far from Joshua: 1. There is nothing wrong with clocking in on time, doing the work expected of you then clocking out on time. 2. Working more hours is fine as long as you're paid/incentivized for it. 3. You can find meaning in work but there are also many ways to find meaning in life (not just from your work.) 4. Your work doesn't define you. If you want, you're free to do so but there are also other ways to define yourself. 5. There is life outside of work that most people sacrifice without realizing that it's preventing them from enjoying both life and work.
Well based on a post that i saw regarding this topic, productivity expected went up by 67.6 percent but wages to compensate for the added workload only increased by 17.3 percent, that absolutely unacceptable and shows how greedy higher ups are. I remembered when i worked at a hotel as a front desk agent, an hq manager came to helpand he was say all happily when he was a house keeping manager on purpose he would terminate some housekeepers and dump the added workload on to the ones he kept and because its less money the hotel has to give out to pay employees. They gave him bonuses for it. This is what many companies are doing to the majority, nothing but wickedness. We all should be making double our wages they are steeling and enslaving us little by little.
I was recently told about a coworker who while on the job died. She literally died while at work. Let that sink in folks a coworker of mine died while on the job. And This is after my boss had me work 30 days straight 12 to 14 hours a day without a day off.
My disabled colleague died while being overworked and having his vacation cancelled due to being short-staffed. That was a wake-up call to some people.
@@FishesAndLoaves997 Yeah, I mean they did work her to an extent where she did die. I guess that would be considered a wrongful death or maybe at least negligent anyways, I I don’t know what happened to. Obviously the company couldn’t speak on the matter and their attorneys weren’t speaking, so, but I know there was a settlement. I don’t know how much from what I could hear. That’s why I don’t work for the company anymore.
Work is a means to an end. You work to live not live to work! Work should be a lot less than 8 hours a day. There is no good reason why work should take up that much time. If employers want stuff done faster, incentivize that.
Quiet quitting is especially useful when bureaucracy makes it impossible to proceed on a task. Busy idiots and people that fill the day with busywork should be the ones who are ridiculed and shamed.
At a 350:1 pay ratio for CEOs vs. their median worker, it's not surprising that they don't understand why everyone isn't killing themselves for their paycheck. CEOs have an insanely outweighed incentive AND the autonomy that comes with the job.
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I very much experienced quiet firing while I was at Carmax. To be more specific, it was more of a nepotism situation where two individuals made next rank over me. In my opinion, they didn't qualify. I'd been with Carmax for nearly 1.3yrs at that point, still a rank2 while these other two (hired within 3 months of eachother) were already rank4s. I called out my supervisor on the matter and asked him what have I been doing wrong to not be allowed my rank ups. I was told there were aspects of leadership that I needed to work on (of course... Yet any other time, himself and half the shop are praising my work and calling me to sort out issues that most SUPERVISORS should be concerned with, not a rank2) and then it'd be up for discussion again in about a month. This utterly pissed me off but I contained myself and started asking the hard questions, putting him and his superior on the spot (I think that may have been the moment when I just said 'fuck it, this is a deadend job') I told him how Observations were nothing more than a disciplinary tactic and not a constructive one and of course that sparked a heated debate until his superior pulled the record for my most recent Observations. All 6 of them stated I needed development and the look on his face was telling. After that situation, I think my supervisor did get a stern talking to from his superior and the abusive Observations stopped but they still never allowed me my rank up. So I just got fed up with the rubbish and burned that bridge, left work one day and just never came back.
Honestly I think it's the name "quiet quitting" that gives it the biggest stigma. It should be called something like "quiet working" or something to reflect that you still are indeed _doing_ your job that you're paid to do, but that you're only doing it "quietly". You're getting done what needs to be done in a timely fashion and that's that, that is unless ofc the employer wants to come to you and offer you more money to take on more responsibility than what you were hired to do (and you accept).
because according to companies these days, "the job" involves working 2+ hours of over time a day, being contactable at all hours, including weekends. So when you stop doing those things, they see it as not doing the job. It is a broken company mentality.
That is the point of calling it that way. So they can try and bully you to going back. They want you to do more than you should need to do so they do not have to pay you more or hire another person to take up the "Slack"
I started a new job 2 years ago. I was excited and eager to contribute. Within 6 months i could tell none of the higher ups cared about any of my input. So i stopped caring. On top of that i saw them trying to pinch pennies. So now i drag my feet and do the job as safe as possible. I do the bare minimum. Theres 0 chance of advancement. So whatever
I worked for many structural engineering firms and government agencies that fired me for going above and beyond. I have never gotten promoted as a result of doing this extra work. I have started quiet quittng because I have been screwed over by bad bosses.
I remember when The Great Resignation just happened, a lot of places were understaffed. Some poor unfortunate souls doing the jobs of 2 or 3 people added on to what they normally did. I wonder if they got handsomely rewarded for that. Imagine doing all of that extra work and your paycheck is still the same.
Oh definetely not. Hell at most they probably got a "goody bag" that contained like 10$ worth of candy(usually out of date) a card saying "HEY WE APPRECIATE YOU!!!!" and like 20$ giftcards
This is one of the best videos you've done! I agree with every single word. It took being in an abusive job and taken advantage of for years before the boomer brainwashing left my mind. Now I do my job and that's it. I don't want to climb the ladder, pickup more work, do three job and be miserable. As I get older I value freedom more than endless workimg.
Hold up… so doing what you’re paid to do = quiet quitting? That’s the most US thing I’ve heard today. Anywhere else in the world, ‘quiet quitting’ would be ghosting your job without ‘officially resigning’.
Companies are realizing they are going to have to pay for productivity now and are reacting by tantruming and gaslighting.. To hell with them. I am proud that I do the bare minimum and spread the idea as often as I can. You want over and above? Stop paying me under and below.
#1 hell yes. I've been checking for the last few days for a new video #2 I can tell you're reading notes from a script and I'm not even offended, in fact it shows how dedicated to producing good content you are Thanks as always for exposing corporate bs!!
"We should absolutely reject 'hustle culture' and burnout--" By which she means we should call these things different names, or not at all, so as to be more palatable to the peons.
Listen to this man. He is trying to help improve your thinking so you don't end up being downsized 2 years before you qualify for your full pension that you earned over the past 30 years of your life. Ad nauseum variations of this scenario.
I was "quietly fired" (though I was one of the few survivors of a mass layoff and they were mad when I left after said layoff haha) people had been brought on with less qualifications and paid higher salary because they were friends with a manager, given less workload (1/3 of my caseload, to be specific), and ofc people around me being promoted despite being present for far less. 3 years and I didn't see a single payrise. but at least when layoffs came and they sat us down individually to tell us to reapply for our roles (renamed and reduced in number of positions)- I was told that well at least in my favour I was the most "profitable" employee to date. I decided after that big layoff happened I wasn't going to be a doormat anymore. they appointed me the position even though i never formally accepted. it especially burned when they gave me more work from that layoff and not my newer co workers (managers friends ofc) who had higher salaries. I was over it. so Instead of quietly quitting I (politely ofc) quit entirely and just went somewhere else and essentially gave myself the raise. they were blindsighted by this and I heard not terribly happy but moral of the story is don't put up with this corporate BS and know your worth
I like to do more because I like my boss and my team and the show actual concern for my wellbeing and try make me feel comfortable. Crazy how that works
She wants you to reject hustle culture because having a hustle means you have extra money coming in outside your day job and sometimes that money is substantial. The more successful your hustle is, the less incentive you have to put up with a toxic day job. "Making a Negro Christian" explains a lot of modern capitalism. It's a great book that explains where a lot of racist tropes come from. One of them is that slaves and black people in general are lazy. It comes from the slave masters complaining that their slaves were finding every excuse not to work. Unpaid people and poorly paid people not putting in the effort. Interesting. Capitalists demand effort well beyond your pay and then call you lazy if you don't provide. That's what quiet quitting is finally stamping down on. People work as hard as business owners work to pay them.
I really love your videos, you are speaking truth and I 100% agree. Nothing wrong with working hard or extra if you're rewarded for it. But just expecting everybody to work a ton and not get anything is absurd! Nobody lies on their deathbed thinking how glad they are that they worked so much and missed so much time with family, friends and having fun...
Arianna is just pissed because her first husband of 11 years, Micheal Huffington a Republican congressman was "quiet quitting" on her marriage when he finally came out as gay.🌈
I think the antidote to quiet quitting would be if employers were willing to offer firm, definite, legally binding guarantees of promotion, extra compensation, bonuses etc rather than vague, specious murmurings of possible future rewards with no promises or commitments. It's a danging carrot they can easily yank our of reach at any time with no come-back, compensation or commitment and simply fling to someone else.
also there should be legal protections for employees so employers can't just fire, hire, fire, etc whenever they feel like it. similar to the eu. they have a whole process to fire employees which involves a bunch of paperwork, notices, payments, etc. this keeps the employer in line.
@Phantom Warrior I live in the EU. It's not quite like that. Employers can (and do) fire people for things like professional misconduct, gross incompetence etc. But there are legally defined severance pays, discrimination laws and so on & it's perfectly possible to take a firm to court over unfair dismissal. If a company needs to make redundancies it can - but it has to give reasonable notice, some compensation and follow some legal niceties. An employer is not allowed to - for example - move your job 200 miles away or give you a 50% pay cut and tell you if you don't accept it you've resigned. That's called "constructive dismissal" & is illegal. They also cannot discriminate against you on grounds of race, gender, age and so on. It's one area where nationalised healthcare really helps, actually. As our "coverage" is not linked to our employers paying for it we can change jobs and not worry about 6 months of no cover as the "premiums" are paid to the government, not an insurance company. In the UK the scheme is literally known as "National Insurance".
@@Rapscallion2009 agreed. its not what i describe but its 10x better than the usa or even canada, where you can be let go for any reason without notice. in canada you are eligible for mib severance but that's peanuts compared to what you guys get. if canada and usa at least adopted your guys laws, employees would be better off.
Omg these rich people are so out of touch. So what, are we supposed to magically convince ourselves that our jobs “bring us joy”? QQ is NORMAL job working. People working extra hard are not doing it out of “joy”. They’re doing it out of a false hope of advancement.
People ask me, how do they know when they've been stonewalled, or hit a glass ceiling at a company? Are you training your boss? I've had to do that. Instead of putting me in the position, I had to train the person I reported to. Check seniority. Do you have seniority over your boss?
Her entire speech (once you push past all of the BS) can be boiled down to "Work like a dog, whether you are rewarded for it or not. (because that's what makes ME the most money!)" This crap from CEOs is why the younger generation is screaming for communism. Quiet Quitting and The Great Resignation can be effectively fought simply by returning merit to the workplace - recognizing talent, rewarding that talent, and punishing failure. Also eliminating the use of favors/connections, string-pulling, and other forms of corruption in the workplace, like blaming others for your failures and taking credit for others' work!
I find it strange that high ranking business people can't see the parallel between how the company buying materials and getting exactly what they paid for and employees giving the company exactly what they pay for. If i order a bunch of lumber or bricks, I don't expect the guys i bought from to give me more for free. I'm detecting a huge double standard here.
@@thedeadbaby at will employment is a two way street. If a company acts like a dime a dozen job, then I'm free to find another one. Of course, if the population begins to think that way, many predatory companies will find themselves understaffed and suffering greatly.
I work 4 ten hour shifts delivering for a craft beer distributor I usually work 4 12s to 14s making only 25 an hour. I have to recycle all the expired beer cans which brings me an extra 400 to 600 a month just to have extra money to do things with my family while the company does 4 million a month in sales. Companies need to stop being so greedy and actually pay their employees a wage they can live on.
I'm friends with a multi-millionaire, he is an obsessive workaholic. It's an addiction for him. They can't empathize with normal people that would rather not work at all.
Very well said. I am seeing so many articles and quotes from people who obviously don’t understand Quiet Quitting. I guess there should be a better name for it.
You call it "quiet quitting", I call it "acting your wage"
I use the phrase in the video
@@JoshuaFluke1 haha sorry I commented before watching 👉👈
@@Nerobyrne least you admitted it
These companies are nothing but gaslighters trying to shame workers and normalize wage theft. If I only get paid to work 9/5, then that's what you get. I don't get to pay stuff at the supermarket and then return to grab a few more things without paying them. That's nothing but theft.
I thought HuffPost and it’s readers care about people lmao 🤣
These CEOs are shaming employees for “quiet quitting,” while they themselves are “quiet demoting” or “quiet firing” their employees.
also they are QUIET PAYING
These worthlessPiecesofHumanWaste in business and government and their personal in the Media came up with this word as a way to then pressure young people into ChinaStyle slave labor. They know 100s of millions of baby boomers are retiring worldwide this decade who were born after WW2, so they need to get labor of you people. The Labor movement has sold out to the politicians for the last 75 years. This is all part of the "GREA,TR,ESET" and will get 100 times worse. Young people please don't start a family or get pregnant at this time. Companies/Government/organizations have no loyalty to employees they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Governments are also increasing authoritarianism while helping the Globalist elites to consolidate all wealth/power. To ensure no slavery like life, girls should remember to take the birth control pill daily and both guy/girl should use protection and consider Tubal Ligation which is a quick procedure. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. The system in all countries ks getting worse now and children born now will suffer. Imagine your child living in a technically advanced meaning more brutal total surveillance Communist or dictatorship style society as that is the planned future if you choose to have kids. So by having children you are purposely causing them to be born to a life of suffering for your own selfishness in a way.
Constructive Dismissal is a thing.
Quiet offshoring of good jobs. They’ve been making bank on the suffering of the working class for as long as I’ve been in the workforce. I’m not sorry for the CEOs one bit.
The stats show that worker that works at same company for 10 years makes up to 50% less than same worker changing jobs. And it's true. I gained experience and switched jobs now I make 2x more than in my previous job. You should constantly look for better job get the experience etc. Because after 2-4 years they start to give you more things to do without extra pay.
She literally sold her company, huffington post, so she could live her life freely. But gets mad when others want to leave and live their life if they aren’t paid enough.
Your profile pic perfectly matches your statement. Well done!
Maybe a article posted to get reaction to waste time.
Yah, and the funny part is she got rich because she was married to a rich husband (Michael Huffington) that died and left her all of his money. She was a staunch Republican before he died (and he ran for Senator of California) and after he died she became a raging leftist.
@@dynajay4106 lol yes it sure does
Keep doing the minimal, more $$$ for me! I should be retired, were using the cash to visit Europe this fall.
I am a Boomer, two years retired and I still agree with you. No corporation EVER did right by me for forty years.
Thank you for sharing your experience.all the baby boomers in my family weren't rewarded for their work ethic. They've always told me you just get more work and burnt out.
@@anitaknight3915 My grandfather worked for a company for 40 years and he only earned a trophy that he proudly displays in his room that I'm sure they bought for like $20.
@@Dairunt1 $20? Sounds generous. Probably more like $2.
@@YouSoundButtHurt (price adjusted for inflation)
I just see all of this as propaganda. I had a middle aged coworker that came from the Soviet Union. He was not a fan of communism first off (hence why he came here). It was really interesting talking to him about quality of life and work in a completely foreign economic system. He would tell me how they wanted to create "the new man" it was always about this "new man".
I sorta think what's happening now with companies shaming us for not going the extra mile for no extra pay is the capitalist version of creating "the new man".
The backlash to "quiet quitting" is the inevitable end result of a system that rewards narcissism and psychopathy in the workplace. Refusing to break your back for a company that doesn't value you isn't even a radical position.
By the way, I worked my ass off - a regular work-a-holic - really.
I agree! How have you narrowed it down to narcissism and psychopathy so clearly?
Meanwhile, my partner is on prescription pain killers because their last job literally caused a slipped spinal disc. But we're too poor to sue the employer
@@iamthesamrus because office politics and promotion generally require one or the other to get ahead. and well, the whole "the boss has all of the power" dynamic of most offices means that management often attracts narcissists and psychopaths. (both of which are charming and social)
@@iamthesamrus CEO is one of the top 10 career choices for Psychopaths, as they make up to 25% of CEOs (as of the most recent studies I've read, whereas in the general population, it's 1-3% (depending on the study), worldwide).
The billion dollar company I currently work for is constantly cutting hours to "save money," and yet when we limit our availability, you know to have a life, they get pissed. If you don't want us to Quiet Quit and Joyfully Join instead, how about you Proudly Pay.
Same, major name company, we have to come in late mornings on the nights we close to limit overtime, but here, learn this new job skills and expand your knowledge, raise-free.
HELL YEAH BROTHER
@@itsjustme5030 Yes, I completely understand. That is called a lateral or horizontal promotion. More duties, more responsibilities, more risk, but NEVER more money. When companies offer these types of promotions, DECLINE them. The company will probably use bull$h!t phrases like..."This move is a stepping stone towards an actual promotion later," or "We want to see how you'll do in this position first before we actually promote you." These are all LIES. The promotion never comes no matter how hard you work or how well you do. They just use your cheap labor to make profit for themselves.
@@starbrand3726 I agree with you. We are "upgrading" our system and work flow is shifting because of it, so right now there is little room to say no because one system will soon be obsolete.
My biggest pet peeve is our team has 3 people who constantly make the same errors over and over and we aren't allowed to correct or retrain them, and management won't step in other than to tell the remaining team members to fix the errors and move on for the sake of "teamwork." I don't mind fixing an error if waiting for the one who made it will take longer than me fixing it and it's occasional. But there's a huge difference between "helping" and "enabling" and I have no doubt that some of the people who are quiet quitting are experiencing something similar. I'm in the middle of a major purchase, but when the ink is dry on the mortgage, I have a standing offer at another company. I'll at least be leaving that mess behind even if this new job has its own issues.
@@itsjustme5030 I learned a long time ago, when real opportunity knocks, answer it. I truly hope everything works out for you. Maybe one day American workers will wake up and say enough is enough so hard working people don't have to put up with this corporate crap anymore.
When I read this and watched the CNBC interview with Kevin O'Leary one thing totally stuck out: they're scared to death of quiet quitting. Using terms like, "it's a cancer" or "invasive species" tells me they probably already know it's present in their own businesses. What scares them is the fact they've feasted on extra, free labor for decades without a thought of the cost it exacts on their employees and now they're finally realizing that people are tired of getting screwed over. Amazing video!
I enjoy Kevin O’Leary’s takes often, but he is completely missing the drive behind it.
True. I used to do work beyond my job. I do work management previously did. Did I get promoted? No. They promoted a friend. I used to do 30 tasks daily. I’ve been reducing the number by 1 every day. Now I do 20 to 25 tasks per day. No more!
@@jtelk4708 same here. To me what they're not understanding is for the first time in nearly 700 years labor has an advantage and they really always have. All managers have to do is treat people with respect, help them not worry about money and they'll get all the production they want.
The best explanation I've heard is: Before covid, the fear of the unknown kept a lot of people in terrible jobs and the idea was 'any job is better than no job' and then covid happened and upended everything. but we got through it and now the fear of the unknown isn't as strong as it was before. so now people are saying. 'I'd rather have no job than this job.' (which is the great resignation).
Quiet quitting is 'this job is only slightly barely better than no job. so I'm giving my exact minimum energy required to keep it because I don't care if I lose it'
Imagine paying stuff at the supermarket, and then returning to grab a few more things without paying them. That's theft. If I only get paid to work 9/5, then that's what you get. If you want me to work more, then you PAY me more. These companies are nothing but gaslighters shaming workers while trying to normalize wage theft.
Josh, what you termed "quiet firing" is precisely what happened to my brother and me back when we worked together at a nightmare chicken joint. We went "above and beyond" for years with false promises of raises, promotions, and time off while understaffed and in terrible working conditions.
It wasn't worth it.
My brother got out first, managing to reverse his burnout after only three months. It took a severe skin infection caused by one of the manager's last cut corners before I came to my senses. I discovered the hard way that the food-safe sanitizer fluid I was cleaning food surfaces with wasn't sanitizer. It was a dangerous corrosive. They didn't have medical insurance or allowed for time off to heal either.
When I realized my manager at the time would just kick my dead body to check if I was faking it and then only call the ambulance to get my corpse out of the way or if a customer complained. I vowed to never go back. It took 3 weeks to beat back the infection and far longer to beat the burnout. I may be making peanuts freelancing right now, but I have my health and sanity back.
You can't put a price on that.
👍👍👍 happy for you man
Dude skin infections are insane. I got my first one in 2020 and it took me 6 months to get some skin back. 2 years later I have problems, scars, and hefty dietary restrictions. Hope you healed ok. No job is worth a dang skin infection!!!!
Do not start a family and use protection. The system depends on your slave labor but only after you have a child knowing if you are better than an animyou wont abandon your child and will work hard to take care of them. Live a minimalist list or with your parents if they are caring people who you have a good relationship with. Asian, African and Middle eastern parents dont try to kick out their kids at 18 years old and that is what Western parents need to learn to help their children savings wated on apartments. These worthlessPiecesofHumanWaste in business and government and their personal in the Media came up with this word as a way to then pressure young people into ChinaStyle slave labor. They know 100s of millions of baby boomers are retiring worldwide this decade who were born after WW2, so they need to get labor of you people. The Labor movement has sold out to the politicians for the last 75 years. This is all part of the "GREA,TR,ESET" and will get 100 times worse. Young people please don't start a family or get pregnant at this time. Companies/Government/organizations have no loyalty to employees they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Governments are also increasing authoritarianism while helping the Globalist elites to consolidate all wealth/power. To ensure no slavery like life, girls should remember to take the birth control pill daily and both guy/girl should use protection and consider Tubal Ligation which is a quick procedure. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. The system in all countries ks getting worse now and children born now will suffer. Imagine your child living in a technically advanced meaning more brutal total surveillance Communist or dictatorship style society as that is the planned future if you choose to have kids. So by having children you are purposely causing them to be born to a life of suffering for your own selfishness in a way..
Glad you got out! Your experience is eye opening for me.
Pollos Hermanos treats their employees great
This is rich, coming from Arianna Huffington, who didn't pay writers and instead relied on free content "for exposure" for like 13 years for Huffington Post.
Then sold the website for hundreds of millions of dollars without those writers permission.
Yep, that is what one gets from a raging feminist, a horrible human with no compassion or care in the world.
They are progressives and shieeet
@@barrydaemi6287 dude I'm a feminist. But this ain't feminism. Asking for equal rights Doesn't mean you exploit people. That's not feminism. That's narcissism.
Remember when she was trying to sound holistic and caring when she advocated for people to get more sleep, and shared her methods. Do you think she was applying those same methods and policies down to her HuffPo workers? Nope. One way or another these disconnected, socially inept CEOs will learn that this is the end of "trickle down theory", in all aspects. of life.
Does anyone else find it INCREDIBLY ridiculous and weird that doing your job, and meeting the average standard of doing so, is being associated with quiting?! It does not sound like a term an average worker came up with, especially considering that 99% of non-management workers totally agree with the logic behind "quiet quitting." It sounds more like something someone in a management position came up with to use as bad word for people who do their job and dont go above and beyond.
Great points. Nothing new with corporate America tho- they give you are target, and when we're successfully able to hit it consistently, they move it further down range as the "new standard" - but give you absolutely no incentive to do so. Wash, rinse, repeat.
I hate hearing how this term is made by the millennials/zoomers when it sounds so obviously corporate.
it's classic shaming and dread tactics. if all of the workers are essentially racing each other to see who can NOT be "the first guy to leave early" then the company can't help but win because the new workload expectation goes up without management having to lift a finger. just comment on how "oh that guy left early. huh. not a team player."
All stick. no carrot. companies love that. Especially since it really screws up what "meets expectations" means when it comes time for reviews.
If you don't get paid to go above and beyond, then you don't WORK above and beyond - because that bonus/raise ISN'T coming. Common sense to live by that triggers CEOs to no end.
@@Ezberron too bad it don't work on me. I'm proudly called dog fker by my 2 supervisors and they love working with me. Job is done and nothing else matters, me going for longer breaks, me fking off home earlier, chilliing watching youtubez and other stuff.
I'm also lucky to have such sups. They know I don't care for anything extra but I'm a person they don't have to ever worry about doing my job.
Quiet Quitting is bad but Quiet Theft of your employees time, skills and potential is good. That is the message she is trying to convey.
So doing the job you're payed for is bad? Lmao.
@@YapCentral3 The video literary gave the definition of Quiet Firing, which the poster above is equating to Quiet Theft = in other words, working beyond the 40 hours your salary is based on is THEFT. Anything beyond the 40 hours the poster is considering Quiet Theft.
I guess reading and interpreting words is hard for you. I hope you don't have a college degree, because your school failed you.
@@YapCentral3 doing more than the job that you're paid for is bad is the message
@@YapCentral3 No, people do their job every day. They just are no longer willing to work overtime for free, take on additional jobs that they aren't paid to do, work days that they were not originally hired to work, etc. You seem to have missed the entire point of what people are doing.
What companies are doing is called quiet pay cuts… by not backfilling & giving you their work… then at most giving slight increases that are way under inflation. If you got a 2% increase this past year - you actually got something like an 8% pay cut!
To cover this up, they manufactured this quiet quitting thing to focus everyone’s attention away from what they are doing!
Boomers worked 40 hour weeks and had everything they wanted. A house, 2 vehicles, one person could stay at home, 4 kids and have time to enjoy their family. Not now. 12 hour days, both family members work a job, kids are raised by school, teachers are parents and 6 day work weeks.
DB - You are spot on. I work in the oilfield and make a 6-digit salary. My wife is a stay home mom and I am gone for weeks on end. Home for 4 or 5 days then gone again. It is disgusting. White collar profits from blue collar. And being a rough neck and putting your health and life at risk to make a proper pay should be called black collar.
It's a terrible life. But many of us do it. Long gone are the days where the economy and cost of living were regulated better.
@@Twitch_Moderator Black collar? I like it. I'm guessing it's named that because that's the color that'll be worn at the funeral.
That was unavoidable for the simple inclusion of women in workforce. No that is not prejudice it is math. The market has X amount of resources to pay. If you double the workforce (and that basically did happen) that pressures the wages DOWN. That is simple offer vs demand of work. Not saying it is wrong for women to work, just pointing that it is not VALID to compare the 50's economic model with current one because the society is completely different.
@@tiagodagostini And society will change again. People are going to end up flipping the table on the Establishment, and do their best to get out of debt and become self-sufficient...if not just straight up revolt if there is a draft for another stupid forever war. The only way to stop these parasites is to starve them, because violence means they will just go back into hiding when they lose, and await for another unwary generation to exploit. I think we do need to learn how to become self-sufficient and live without money. It's the only way out of the cycle of rising and falling empires.
@@tiagodagostini or it could be from having more immigration. or it could be that companies exploit us because they can. i have never once read any research or book that gave any evidence that women starting to work led to decreased wages compared to inflation
She’s making a lot of presumptions.
You can still get joy and love in your work if you’re quiet quitting. Shes just thinking of her bottom line.
Yes, I used to get way more joy than I should admit from listening to managers complain about things.
That’s right. There’s a time and a place for everything, right? Work belongs at work, from 8-5. Giving things that don’t belong to you rent-free space in your head is called obsessing.
Lets be real she doesnt really believe that stuff she wrote, its just damage control. A sloppy one.
Ive actually enjoyed working when I do the bare minimum
It all boils down to upper management being full of Sociopaths and Psychopaths.
It really is.
Its why they excel at the "Game of Thrones" style environment that many companies encourage. Regular moral people don't stand a chance.
this is so true
We are simply witnessing/experiencing class warfare right now.
The Shutdown left many without a job, and the companies that did continue to operate, treated their employees like shit because there was nowhere else to go. We were under staffed, under paid, and overworked, so we did the only thing we could do, find a new job once companies/organizations started to hire again.
With the hiring freeze thawing out, companies lost the whip of unemployment to control us and don't want to give out the carrot to increase employee motivation/productivity.
So now we have companies and the news trying to shame us or re-establish the whip of fear to layoffs if we don't go the extra mile for no extra pay everyday.
Imagine paying stuff at the supermarket, and then returning to grab a few more things without paying them. That's called theft. If I only get paid to work 9/5, then that's what you get. If you want me to work more, then you PAY me more. These companies are nothing but gaslighters shaming workers while trying to normalize wage theft.
“Quiet quitting” has been around for years. It just has a name now.
I was scrolling looking for this comment.
Come to think of it, a lot of the "quiet quitting" articles in my feed seem rather similar - perhaps the writers have first hand experience with quiet quitting.
To be honest the quiet quitting media blitz is the result of Gen Z and young millennials constant need to share everything with the world. People 30 and up have been quiet quitting for decades while shutting the f*ck up and living their lives
Long time ago in China. Look up 躺平
Exactly!
When i started working in 2012, there were already boomers starting to think about retirement, doing their way of "quiet quitting", bringing this mentality into the Office.
Also, GenX, so the current 40-52 year old people were adjusting to this.
In 3 companies, i had only ONE proper onboarding to the Job, they were not in the mood to onboard.
In these companies my motiviation dropped drastically.
So maybe these guys should consider why there is a global movement now
Pushing yourself is how your grow. I agree, which is why I push myself in areas outside my job. That is where the growth is.
She's gaslighting, shaming and guilting. Wrapping it all up in pseudo-positivity to make it look like something wonderful. Remember, CEOs have among the highest percentage of psychopaths of any profession. Take everything a CEO says with a huge grain of salt.
Yes, most CEOs and Managers in Business and Government in general tend to be deviant or sadistic. Ypu will get the exceptional good manager but as long as its genuine and not to squeeze more work out of you and they are ensuring you dont get overworked and burned out then fine.
These people are psychopathic manipulators that get tantrums when they don’t get what they want
@@redditor7548 Agree 100%
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 You know the obvious solution to this is boycotting any business that treats their employees crudely, but yeah let’s keep pretending businesses sustain themselves on fairy dust and not the business they obtain from the consumer of goods and services.
“Ah, there’s so many psychopaths among managers and CEOs…”
>purchases their product for the 10th, 100th or 1,000th time…
Such a peculiar act of absurdity among humans.
I’m fairly lucky in that my workplace does allow part time work. When I took the deal, my then-boss didn’t understand (he still supported my decision). I explained to him I could find more growth by myself outside the company than inside, despite all the training the company provides. Outside, the growing is real and relevant. Inside, the learnings can be more easily proven because it will be easily labeled with certificates and jargon your managers understand, but it is not necessarily useful - especially not in a region where the headquarters isn’t. So I chose to have real growth even though I wouldn’t be able to use it to advance in my career just because managers can’t recognise the ability fundamentally without being previously endorsed by corporate.
Remember, whenever someone complains about Quiet Quitting, tell them the best way to combat it is by adopting European business standards. Employees get a mandatory thirty days of vacation per year, sign contracts on hire so they cannot be abruptly fired, and have strong unions to represent their needs.
I live and work in France and for the longest time, we've been saying this and American corporations keep pushing and pushing for the culture to change. We live for that "bare minimum" life.
Yeah none of that is actually true 😂 The minimum holiday bit is but its 20 days (UK) and only applies to staff on full time contracts anyway.
@@dan44zzt231 - exactly!
you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about
@@dan44zzt231 Grass is still greener. 4 weeks, when 2 weeks is the gold standard for "respectable" (corporate office) jobs here in the US. And most any benefits package, generally meaning paid time off and health insurance, is reserved for full time workers - meaning 40 hours per week... 39.98 hours per week, no benefits for you. If you only have a part time job, you are basically considered to be unemployed, except you won't qualify for any federal or state assistance and potential employers will snub you because there might be "scheduling conflicts".
Not sure why companies are having a meltdown over "quiet quitting". It actually benefits the company. They don't have to pay the pitiful raises and/or bonuses that companies don't want to payout in the first place. Employees are willfully accepting that they will never advance and will never get the raises/bonuses because "it's not in the budget" per company cogs.
I think the main thing is that now they won't get extra work out of people without extra pay. Places like Walmart thrive on the fact that their employees put in more work that what they're actually being paid for.
Because companies want free labor and want their workers to beg
It's a good thing when the Chinese do it. It's a bad thing when Americans/Europeans do it.
They don't care to pay more. They secretly don't want employees taking breaks and they'll always replace people who quit, leave or die.
What is odd is that employers who under pay, don't offer basic items like decent health insurance or are all around scum bags are not "Invasive" at all.
Agreed but let's fix the problem that healthcare is tied to your job here in the US.
@@dubprocesslbc lets take it a step further and fix healthcare as a whole. until you change the perverse incentives, it doesn't matter where you get it.
Fuck it, let's fix the whole damn problem and move away from capitalism altogether
This is a business, not a charity. I’m a worker, not a donor.
The business won’t do stuff for free, why should I?
Quiet quitting as you describe it sounds to me like taking the same stance that your employer takes toward you. They pay you no more than they have to. They hire no more employees than they have to. They don't even provide you with the best tools to do your job until they have to.
BTW - I'm not opposed to doing more than my job requires, but I do it to improve my own value or keep habits that may get me a better situaton.
I don't see why quiet quitting is suddenly a huge problem, it's been going on for decades. Unless the number of people doing it has hit critical mass, leaving corporations panicking that nobody wants to go above and beyond for zero reward.
It’s like when the initial lazy, selfish and incompetent workers quiet quit first, they get away with it.
But when the good workers realize their worth, then they’re the bad guy??
It is at critical mass and they are just pointing fingers instead of being leaders like they always call themselves.
The only thing that's changed is people are now openly talking about it
The problem today is the huge rise in the 'me me me...I expect everything now' group in our population. The concept of a 'real job' - and what that means, has been twisted by that pandemic of narcissistic thinking. 'Quiet quitting' by this group is far from "doing what you're paid to do" - instead, it is "getting away with as little work output as possible", and that's a big difference, a difference not lost on these organisations. These people will never, ever advance in their careers.
@@ChrisM541 Most of the jobs these people are working would never advance their careers, though. I agree on the rise of narcissism due to social media being around their whole lives essentially, but they aren't wrong with wanting to quit from companies that years ago would have given them enough money for a decent living, but now don't even make half what they have to pay in taxes if they want to live alone.
This can get so frustrating. Expecting employees to do more than they are worth gives the employer the expectation that their employees don’t need a raise.
not only that, when you simply do your job (and do it well) but don't put in extra hours or doesn't get involved in all and every possible issue going on at the company, you'll hear your manager saying that you don't "go that extra mile" to be recognized, and by that they mean "you're in line for the next round of ley offs". Instead of not getting a raise because you're not an workaholic, you start fearing for your job.
@@RainerLuizFonseca As a manager, confirm that it’s really hard to keep people in the system that just want to do their job well. Always get reviewed by exec team going why hasn’t that person done more than required…
@@RainerLuizFonseca that's a common tactic. dread. because its much much cheaper to use the stick (vague threat of possible firing) than actually use the carrot (here's some money to keep you around because you bust your ass)
Anyone worker who stays at a company more than 1 yearv where employees are overworked or stressed and abused is part of the problem.
@@RainerLuizFonseca leave that job immediately
I spent 15 years working hard for the same company for ultimately no recognition, and I was basically burning out in a toxic environment.
I was in a dead end, essentially quiet fired as you put it.
I had the choice to quiet quit, stop caring and just do the bare minimum taking advantage of my seniority.
But I really couldn't see myself not caring after working so hard at that place for 15 years.
So instead of quiet quitting, I really quit. Which came as a shock to the upper management, even though multiple other people had quit before me (and after), and even though I had been quite vocal about my frustration for a year before quitting.
So now I'm in a much better atmosphere at a different company that appreciates expertise, and I'm wondering why the hell it took me so long to leave that toxic workplace in the first place.
They are always shocked, when a decent employee exits ,they expected you to stay and take the abuse I suppose.. good luck on the new move..
Want to know something funny?
I work in enterprise sales and sent Arianna Huffington a cold email and she, to my surprise, actually replied. She replied telling me to "find another job that doesn't require bothering people"
The irony that this lady who, founded and runs THRIVE, wanting people to live, breathe, and die by work, is telling me to find a different job.
Lol. She's very funny
Wait so you’re telling me progressives don’t actually give a damn about people??
@@JBS2018 her response is in my OP. My email was asking for a meeting to speak about the mental wellness program she provides for her employees.
@@miserableleft Wait, so you´re telling me you actually think this psychopath is progressive??
Founded a company that thrives on harassment, i.e. journalism. Claims to not like harassment. Interesting.
I’ve been “quiet quitting” the last 8 years. When I am not being paid enough, and I’ve had broken promises of promotions, I will look elsewhere. I’ve also learned to stop going above and beyond because it doesn’t get me where I want to be career wise nor financially. I “quiet quit” my last job and ended up with 30k more than my last job could ever offer. Fuck employeers and do you, because in the end they won’t.
amen to that.
HuffPost is progressive and shieeet. They care about people 😝
You don’t want your employer to “do you.” You probably won’t like it 😏😏😏🫣
Unions already had a term for this: the “work to” rule. Essentially, you do the bare minimum specified by the agreement. It is a type of strike that slows production due to so many unwritten workarounds not being done. If most people are starting to act this way without union organization, then you know something is systematically wrong. The problem is not the people. It is the owners who created this issue by being stubborn about easy moral boosting workflows like keeping remote work.
Perfectly said 👍
Came to the comments to say this. Not only was the thought already here but it was written more eloquently than I can. TLDNR : what obits said. Also, it's called a slow down.
My cousin once told me "If you don't value your time, nobody else will" - everything outside your 8hr days should be treated as precious. Only on VERY rare occasions should you work later.
Even the best companies will abuse your time, if you don't create boundaries.
The best decision I ever made was to make my employees stop going “above and beyond” and to just focus on their job for 8 hours a day. This made them happier, we have great retention and everyone does awesome work. An unintended consequence is that when we actually need to go above and beyond because of an emergency, everyone does and we reward them for it. Funny how that works.
What type of work do your employees do?
@@samuelmorse1245 secretaries, attorneys, clerks, office assistants, reception, etc.
IKR, I’ve had guys on facilities maintenance crews that would crush 8 hours of work into 5 or 6. There was no way to let them go early without committing time clock fraud so unless something happened, I left them alone til COB. I got zero pushback then because “Tone’s actually pretty cool…”
I feel so privileged to live in France 🇫🇷 , we live for that "bare minimum" life. Some work environments are stressful especially in tech, but the laws protect us to an extent; its not perfect but its so much better than in so many places.
I think you're what the US needs to aim to be.
@japanwatchconnection it's not a problem, I'd rather feed a system like this than pay little taxes for a system that furthers the gap between the rich and the poor. Most universities are free, having access to universal Healthcare helps everyone and I benefitted from that. I'm happy to contribute my share now that I can.
@japanwatchconnection "Problem is your paycheck is heavily taxed."
It's not a problem, it's a necessity if you're going to have a social state that attempts to take care of its citizens. I pay relatively high taxes, but I pay them knowing that doing so is a hell of lot better than the broken system that exists e.g. in the U.S.
@japanwatchconnection I live in Australia, we have universal health care, mandated 4 weeks paid annual leave, 2 weeks paid sick leave a year for permanent employees. Casuals get a 25% loading to cover those costs. on average we are taxed 1% more than the US, and my healthcare isn't tied to a job. Believe it or not America is a giant scam, the propaganda that you are all fed blind you to the fact that there are better ways to do things,. Your government, that you don't like paying taxes to, run ridiculous scare campaigns against "socialism" so that you all fight against your best interest. America is its own worst enemy, and you all lap it up.
@japanwatchconnection I'll take higher taxes and no health insurance bill...... I would have more take home percentage wise.
Companies demand loyalty from employees but give them none back.
"Quiet Firing"? 🤔 Yup, that's what my last job did to me after they scammed me with 3 fake promotions
How did they scam you with 3 fake promotions?
@@WendyOryen Everytime I tried to quit they offered me a new position so that I didn't go, this happened 3 times so HR offered me 3 different possitions as long as I didn't go... I passed all the interviews and tests these 3 times and even got a job offer each time and starting date for each possition... but they always cancelled the offer on the day I was supposed to sign the contract leaving me back in my old position... Now, these interviews and tests took weeks, so I ended up staying about 5 extra months in hopes that they would honor their word in any of these 3 offers... when they cancelled the 3rd offer I already had my ressignation letter ready and HR dared to offer me a 4th possition so that I didn't quit... fuсk those аsshоlеs!
@LTNetjak Yeah, that too
They did that to some friends
@LTNetjak I call that "Virtual promotions"
Lol...the company I work for when hiring managers which they already know in advance who the already want would have supervisors running around encouraging employees to apply for management so they could meet their applicants quota so they could start interviews and getting the pre selected managers hired ASAP. Many would apply but eventually caught on to the sham..
My daily dose of realism, thank you Josh.
It's amazing how CEOs don't admit, that if an employee is working hard and is getting results that goes ''above and beyond'', there is 0 reason to promote him to a position, where his ''above and beyond'' is not going to be utilised. I am yet to see a manager, that is as engaged, as devoted and going ''above and beyond'' as his team he is supposedly supervising. Still waiting to see such a rare sight.
I've seen under performing people get promoted in the hopes that they will do better with more responsibilities. It's a funny world.
I've seen it once where a manager went above and beyond. He irritated alot of people. His health was visibly declining. He rapidly gained weight and his face changed color and shape. In the space of a year he went from young and dashing, to middle aged office worker.
Seen more of this than I care to remember. The brown nosers move up…the work horses burn out or move on.
Quiet quitting is the THE thing to do when when you‘re paid well enough not to leave, have a good station, and are surrounded by mostly good people who make it interesting to come to work everyday day.
But not getting a raise for years, after moving heaven and earth for the company. Then actually getting a raise, but you find out that everyone is getting a raise along with you. Especially those who already quiet quitted years ago. And surprise,surprise! IT’S A 20€ INCREASE on top of the monthly salary!!!
It was exactly after this that i joined the club. And all my colleagues kept telling me since the start that I worked too hard „You wont get a promotion from working hard in here. This isn’t that kind of place. They only pay more to new hires.“ they kept telling me.
And I didn‘t believe them… untill that raise day.
If I actually need the raise because of life costs, I‘ll change jobs. But for now, I‘ll just sit tight and squeeze the company for all the sim city time I can get out of it while being paid to do it, and teach it a lesson.
It's not so much quitting as it is work to rule. There's also a term for what the companies are doing when they expect un paid work - it's called wage theft.
Everything that CEO said is a cry for help. You can't go above and beyond without burning out. You can't just "find another job" when you have bills to pay. People are tired of slaving away for nothing. For more work, responsibility, and to exceed last week's expectations? It's insanity that people demand and condition people to make work their life and that some people actually go along with it without question. Do your job and go HOME.
I am Gen X and I can absolutely confirm that all working extra hard, doing more than you are paid to do, and going the extra mile gets you is more work and being used by your employer. Never doing another corporate office job again, thankfully I escaped and went freelance journalist 8 years ago and never looked back.
Love how in touch you are for everyone navigating the overwhelmingly out of touch.
"Quiet Quitting" is the reaction to "Loud Failling" from companies and CEO's.
When you have tiger/dragon parents growing up, you learn how to quiet quit. Because getting more done is never rewarded, just do enough so they stay off your back and leave you alone. You will find your free time and fun time to mess around at school and use the stupid busy work school crap as padding against their BS extra work they try to pad on you. There has never been an incentive for me to do more or faster because that just leads to either getting more work, or get laid off because the company can now cut cost by eliminating your whole team, since the code is now rock solid with full automation and full test plan in place. F!@$%$ that crap! BTW, these are real life lessons from silicon valley, don't be a rat on that treadmill if you know what is good for you. The rat race ain't worth it!
Facts my guy
Back in high school I needed my iPad to do my homework and chasing the whole "work first play later" mantra my parents kept repeating I'd blitz through my homework as fast as possible so I could play....and then they'd just take away the iPad when I was done. Work first play later became play first work later real fucking quick. No mom I'm not done with my homework after 6 hours and yes I know you see me playing games but what are you going to do about it?
Ah Arianna Huffington, the personification of hypocrisy.
After being to exposed to experimental medical procedures two years ago i do the absolute least amount posible and zero to help the company. You reap what you sow and you reap my backlash hate now forever.
I feel you and agree.
As a Boomer I know how important labels are for my fellow Boomers, no matter how true, or untrue, the label becomes the reality. I propose changing the name of quiet quitting to Quietly Working. Quietly Working employees do everything you want them to do without dabbling in someone else's assigned tasks or boosting the real estate utility "buy" by staying past the workday. With a thousand Quietly Working employees you know how long a project will take as everyone works up to full speed without burn out. Yadda yadda yadda, more positive nonsense, you get the picture.
Boomer BS
"Until you're paid the extra mile, just go the miles you're paid to go."
Just going to share what I've learned about so far from Joshua:
1. There is nothing wrong with clocking in on time, doing the work expected of you then clocking out on time.
2. Working more hours is fine as long as you're paid/incentivized for it.
3. You can find meaning in work but there are also many ways to find meaning in life (not just from your work.)
4. Your work doesn't define you. If you want, you're free to do so but there are also other ways to define yourself.
5. There is life outside of work that most people sacrifice without realizing that it's preventing them from enjoying both life and work.
Well based on a post that i saw regarding this topic, productivity expected went up by 67.6 percent but wages to compensate for the added workload only increased by 17.3 percent, that absolutely unacceptable and shows how greedy higher ups are. I remembered when i worked at a hotel as a front desk agent, an hq manager came to helpand he was say all happily when he was a house keeping manager on purpose he would terminate some housekeepers and dump the added workload on to the ones he kept and because its less money the hotel has to give out to pay employees. They gave him bonuses for it. This is what many companies are doing to the majority, nothing but wickedness. We all should be making double our wages they are steeling and enslaving us little by little.
I was recently told about a coworker who while on the job died. She literally died while at work. Let that sink in folks a coworker of mine died while on the job. And This is after my boss had me work 30 days straight 12 to 14 hours a day without a day off.
My disabled colleague died while being overworked and having his vacation cancelled due to being short-staffed. That was a wake-up call to some people.
@@genxx2724 in what industry? healthcare?
@@se2664 sounds like process outsourcing to me
Wrongful death
@@FishesAndLoaves997 Yeah, I mean they did work her to an extent where she did die. I guess that would be considered a wrongful death or maybe at least negligent anyways, I I don’t know what happened to. Obviously the company couldn’t speak on the matter and their attorneys weren’t speaking, so, but I know there was a settlement. I don’t know how much from what I could hear. That’s why I don’t work for the company anymore.
Work is a means to an end. You work to live not live to work! Work should be a lot less than 8 hours a day. There is no good reason why work should take up that much time. If employers want stuff done faster, incentivize that.
So says Arianna Huffington - the woman who plagiarized her PhD thesis.
Thanks! You bolster my long held ideas.
Hey thank you!
I have started quiet quitting and it’s the best thing ever. Do just enough. Lay low and don’t volunteer for anything beyond my job description.
Quiet quitting is especially useful when bureaucracy makes it impossible to proceed on a task. Busy idiots and people that fill the day with busywork should be the ones who are ridiculed and shamed.
At a 350:1 pay ratio for CEOs vs. their median worker, it's not surprising that they don't understand why everyone isn't killing themselves for their paycheck. CEOs have an insanely outweighed incentive AND the autonomy that comes with the job.
I very much experienced quiet firing while I was at Carmax. To be more specific, it was more of a nepotism situation where two individuals made next rank over me. In my opinion, they didn't qualify. I'd been with Carmax for nearly 1.3yrs at that point, still a rank2 while these other two (hired within 3 months of eachother) were already rank4s.
I called out my supervisor on the matter and asked him what have I been doing wrong to not be allowed my rank ups. I was told there were aspects of leadership that I needed to work on (of course... Yet any other time, himself and half the shop are praising my work and calling me to sort out issues that most SUPERVISORS should be concerned with, not a rank2) and then it'd be up for discussion again in about a month.
This utterly pissed me off but I contained myself and started asking the hard questions, putting him and his superior on the spot (I think that may have been the moment when I just said 'fuck it, this is a deadend job') I told him how Observations were nothing more than a disciplinary tactic and not a constructive one and of course that sparked a heated debate until his superior pulled the record for my most recent Observations. All 6 of them stated I needed development and the look on his face was telling. After that situation, I think my supervisor did get a stern talking to from his superior and the abusive Observations stopped but they still never allowed me my rank up. So I just got fed up with the rubbish and burned that bridge, left work one day and just never came back.
Honestly I think it's the name "quiet quitting" that gives it the biggest stigma. It should be called something like "quiet working" or something to reflect that you still are indeed _doing_ your job that you're paid to do, but that you're only doing it "quietly". You're getting done what needs to be done in a timely fashion and that's that, that is unless ofc the employer wants to come to you and offer you more money to take on more responsibility than what you were hired to do (and you accept).
I call it setting boundaries.
because according to companies these days, "the job" involves working 2+ hours of over time a day, being contactable at all hours, including weekends. So when you stop doing those things, they see it as not doing the job. It is a broken company mentality.
That is the point of calling it that way. So they can try and bully you to going back. They want you to do more than you should need to do so they do not have to pay you more or hire another person to take up the "Slack"
I started a new job 2 years ago. I was excited and eager to contribute. Within 6 months i could tell none of the higher ups cared about any of my input. So i stopped caring. On top of that i saw them trying to pinch pennies. So now i drag my feet and do the job as safe as possible. I do the bare minimum. Theres 0 chance of advancement. So whatever
I worked for many structural engineering firms and government agencies that fired me for going above and beyond. I have never gotten promoted as a result of doing this extra work. I have started quiet quittng because I have been screwed over by bad bosses.
"Senior" on my old team but paid less than the newest guy on said team. What is my motivation here to excel. Exactly.
Over working is boomer culture. My Dad earned a triple bypass in his 40s and did that job give a shit? No!
I remember when The Great Resignation just happened, a lot of places were understaffed. Some poor unfortunate souls doing the jobs of 2 or 3 people added on to what they normally did. I wonder if they got handsomely rewarded for that. Imagine doing all of that extra work and your paycheck is still the same.
Oh definetely not. Hell at most they probably got a "goody bag" that contained like 10$ worth of candy(usually out of date) a card saying "HEY WE APPRECIATE YOU!!!!" and like 20$ giftcards
No they didn’t get a thing. The company hired more bosses to make sure the poor saps that didn’t quit worked extra to meet management’s targets.
This is one of the best videos you've done! I agree with every single word. It took being in an abusive job and taken advantage of for years before the boomer brainwashing left my mind. Now I do my job and that's it. I don't want to climb the ladder, pickup more work, do three job and be miserable. As I get older I value freedom more than endless workimg.
One of the best rants I've seen you go on mate! I agree 100% 🔥
People join companies with good vision but leave those with poor leadership. Most people don't quit a job, they fire their management.
There are SO MANY excellent comments here! ❤
Great video! And great job stoking this discourse.
Hold up… so doing what you’re paid to do = quiet quitting?
That’s the most US thing I’ve heard today.
Anywhere else in the world, ‘quiet quitting’ would be ghosting your job without ‘officially resigning’.
It’s actually probably more of a japanese thing tbh
You sir are a hero for making these videos
Companies are realizing they are going to have to pay for productivity now and are reacting by tantruming and gaslighting.. To hell with them. I am proud that I do the bare minimum and spread the idea as often as I can. You want over and above? Stop paying me under and below.
Great speech man. You are speaking right out of my heart.
#1 hell yes. I've been checking for the last few days for a new video #2 I can tell you're reading notes from a script and I'm not even offended, in fact it shows how dedicated to producing good content you are
Thanks as always for exposing corporate bs!!
Heart from Joshua Fluke! Made my night haha
He is all in. Proud of the lad.
The irony of a former politician turned "businessperson" talking out of both sides of their face and ass... HILARIOUS😂
"We should absolutely reject 'hustle culture' and burnout--" By which she means we should call these things different names, or not at all, so as to be more palatable to the peons.
What they really want is you to go above and beyond what they pay you to do
Yes Indeed 👍when you said work is not our entire identity, we ALL KNOW that person! I felt that! You better preach!!
Depending on the type of workplace, the ones who do get noticed and promoted are often 4ss-kissers, not hard workers.
I see that a lot with the ones being promoted and receiving favoritism are a$$kissers yesss men for corporate & not hard workers.
Preach it brother!
Quiet Quitting and being Overemployed is the way to go these days. Maximize your time and money
QUIET FIRING EXISTS!!! YESSS!!! That’s such a good point!!!
Listen to this man. He is trying to help improve your thinking so you don't end up being downsized 2 years before you qualify for your full pension that you earned over the past 30 years of your life. Ad nauseum variations of this scenario.
Spitting fire today. Excellent work.
"They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work" employees in the United Soviet Socialist Republics.
I was "quietly fired" (though I was one of the few survivors of a mass layoff and they were mad when I left after said layoff haha)
people had been brought on with less qualifications and paid higher salary because they were friends with a manager, given less workload (1/3 of my caseload, to be specific), and ofc people around me being promoted despite being present for far less. 3 years and I didn't see a single payrise. but at least when layoffs came and they sat us down individually to tell us to reapply for our roles (renamed and reduced in number of positions)- I was told that well at least in my favour I was the most "profitable" employee to date.
I decided after that big layoff happened I wasn't going to be a doormat anymore. they appointed me the position even though i never formally accepted. it especially burned when they gave me more work from that layoff and not my newer co workers (managers friends ofc) who had higher salaries. I was over it. so Instead of quietly quitting I (politely ofc) quit entirely and just went somewhere else and essentially gave myself the raise.
they were blindsighted by this and I heard not terribly happy but moral of the story is don't put up with this corporate BS and know your worth
I like to do more because I like my boss and my team and the show actual concern for my wellbeing and try make me feel comfortable. Crazy how that works
She wants you to reject hustle culture because having a hustle means you have extra money coming in outside your day job and sometimes that money is substantial. The more successful your hustle is, the less incentive you have to put up with a toxic day job.
"Making a Negro Christian" explains a lot of modern capitalism. It's a great book that explains where a lot of racist tropes come from. One of them is that slaves and black people in general are lazy. It comes from the slave masters complaining that their slaves were finding every excuse not to work. Unpaid people and poorly paid people not putting in the effort. Interesting.
Capitalists demand effort well beyond your pay and then call you lazy if you don't provide. That's what quiet quitting is finally stamping down on. People work as hard as business owners work to pay them.
I really love your videos, you are speaking truth and I 100% agree. Nothing wrong with working hard or extra if you're rewarded for it. But just expecting everybody to work a ton and not get anything is absurd! Nobody lies on their deathbed thinking how glad they are that they worked so much and missed so much time with family, friends and having fun...
Arianna is just pissed because her first husband of 11 years, Micheal Huffington a Republican congressman was "quiet quitting" on her marriage when he finally came out as gay.🌈
I think the antidote to quiet quitting would be if employers were willing to offer firm, definite, legally binding guarantees of promotion, extra compensation, bonuses etc rather than vague, specious murmurings of possible future rewards with no promises or commitments. It's a danging carrot they can easily yank our of reach at any time with no come-back, compensation or commitment and simply fling to someone else.
also there should be legal protections for employees so employers can't just fire, hire, fire, etc whenever they feel like it. similar to the eu. they have a whole process to fire employees which involves a bunch of paperwork, notices, payments, etc. this keeps the employer in line.
@Phantom Warrior I live in the EU. It's not quite like that. Employers can (and do) fire people for things like professional misconduct, gross incompetence etc. But there are legally defined severance pays, discrimination laws and so on & it's perfectly possible to take a firm to court over unfair dismissal. If a company needs to make redundancies it can - but it has to give reasonable notice, some compensation and follow some legal niceties.
An employer is not allowed to - for example - move your job 200 miles away or give you a 50% pay cut and tell you if you don't accept it you've resigned. That's called "constructive dismissal" & is illegal. They also cannot discriminate against you on grounds of race, gender, age and so on.
It's one area where nationalised healthcare really helps, actually. As our "coverage" is not linked to our employers paying for it we can change jobs and not worry about 6 months of no cover as the "premiums" are paid to the government, not an insurance company. In the UK the scheme is literally known as "National Insurance".
@@Rapscallion2009 agreed. its not what i describe but its 10x better than the usa or even canada, where you can be let go for any reason without notice. in canada you are eligible for mib severance but that's peanuts compared to what you guys get. if canada and usa at least adopted your guys laws, employees would be better off.
Omg these rich people are so out of touch. So what, are we supposed to magically convince ourselves that our jobs “bring us joy”? QQ is NORMAL job working. People working extra hard are not doing it out of “joy”. They’re doing it out of a false hope of advancement.
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I have a feeling that most of these CEOs would be bankrupt in a week or less if their employees were paid hourly.
The real ones quite quit without their boss noticing.
People ask me, how do they know when they've been stonewalled, or hit a glass ceiling at a company? Are you training your boss? I've had to do that. Instead of putting me in the position, I had to train the person I reported to. Check seniority. Do you have seniority over your boss?
Quiet Quitting is a horrible offense. It roughly translates to "not falling for empty talk about advancement anymore."
Her entire speech (once you push past all of the BS) can be boiled down to "Work like a dog, whether you are rewarded for it or not. (because that's what makes ME the most money!)"
This crap from CEOs is why the younger generation is screaming for communism.
Quiet Quitting and The Great Resignation can be effectively fought simply by returning merit to the workplace - recognizing talent, rewarding that talent, and punishing failure. Also eliminating the use of favors/connections, string-pulling, and other forms of corruption in the workplace, like blaming others for your failures and taking credit for others' work!
Act your wage! I love this saying. It encapsulates everything your saying! This should b everyone’s mantra!
Quiet quitting is the silent protest before the riots begin.
Expecting perpetual cheap labor to exploit isnt a business plan.
Keep up the good work man every employer should listen to your videos
I find it strange that high ranking business people can't see the parallel between how the company buying materials and getting exactly what they paid for and employees giving the company exactly what they pay for. If i order a bunch of lumber or bricks, I don't expect the guys i bought from to give me more for free. I'm detecting a huge double standard here.
well... the analogy breaks down if you don't want to be treated like a brick and tossed out the window from 3rd floor
@@thedeadbaby at will employment is a two way street. If a company acts like a dime a dozen job, then I'm free to find another one. Of course, if the population begins to think that way, many predatory companies will find themselves understaffed and suffering greatly.
I work 4 ten hour shifts delivering for a craft beer distributor I usually work 4 12s to 14s making only 25 an hour. I have to recycle all the expired beer cans which brings me an extra 400 to 600 a month just to have extra money to do things with my family while the company does 4 million a month in sales. Companies need to stop being so greedy and actually pay their employees a wage they can live on.
I'm friends with a multi-millionaire, he is an obsessive workaholic. It's an addiction for him. They can't empathize with normal people that would rather not work at all.
Very well said. I am seeing so many articles and quotes from people who obviously don’t understand Quiet Quitting. I guess there should be a better name for it.