Somebody come get grandma, she's off her rocker again. 🤡🤡 Edit - obviously don't go brigading. I'm just linking the source so you can see the context for yourself. When I don't link it people say "atleast give credit to the source" and when I do link it they say "youre asking people to harass!". TL:DR don't be morons. th-cam.com/video/kSmFjdisM6Y/w-d-xo.html
@@JoshuaFluke1 those two 'CEOs' don't even register as human. It's hilarious hearing you take them down. You're a voice for the voiceless, keep putting cracks in their glass ceiling 🤣
Our department took a vote on this. Results 0% Full in Person, 5% hybrid, 95% full virtual. They are now closing our office building down and consolidating down to the remaining office building locally. This is a F 500 company so it’s some progress.
I've been working remote since April~ 2020... I've never been happier while working. I hate small talk, I hate having to fake working to make myself look busy. I hate the 1.5hr commute by bus when it could take me 20 mins by car (my wife needs the car more than me). Now, I wake up 10 mins before my work begins, I can stay in sweat pants all day, I don't need to worry about "hey boss, how are you?", I can enjoy my video games during down time and I can actually get household chores done at the same time so I can free up my evenings. I've never been better mentally.
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
If she wants that so badly and believes in that so strongly, she has to go old-school and build a "company town": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town Kick out the cash, employee stock ownership, and subsidize employee housing/rent, or let the employee work remote (especially if white-collar).
Democrats tried to demonize churches, locked everything down so people couldn't go out and gather for parties, meetups, family reunions, etc and now their corporate masters want to replace actual communities and places of gathering with the office. A natural extension of offering "free food" as a benefit and game rooms and other recreational junk no one is actually allowed to use. It's pretty clear to me the government and corporations are working hand in hand to turn us into drones.
@@acsound Google has basically proposed that before. Google co-developed smart cities. They're not explicitly stated to be company towns but you can easily imagine the end result. IIRC the plans were shelved a few years ago, but I suspect there will be a big push for it again, possibly with covid or other virus/disease tracking as an excuse. edit: google already worked with Massachusetts to silently push MassNotify, a covid track and map app, to android devices.
I'm convinced CEOs only want us to come back to the office because they have no social lives outside of work. I mean, that's how they earned the CEO title right?
I don't think that's it. It's more they don't like feeling out of control. It's harder to justify their position when they can't be pretending to do work all day by "socializing" with employees. When you can justify half your day walking around talking to employees for "employee bonding" and then you're forced to do remote work where the expectation is you're 100% productive even if you were only 50% productive in office... yeah... they'd rather just throw all the employees under the bus for their own benefit.
Working from home is a blessing for introverts. More work actually gets done. Most organizational studies state that people in the office only perform 3 hours of work a day. Most of the time is socializing. I would love to see the stats of bullying and sexual harassment. I am certain that went down dramatically. Most large meetings are just narcissists giving each other supply.
No. The office is NOT one of the last institutions of human connectivity. That statement is a kick in the face to all of us who mostly work alone every day. I have way more community now than I did when I worked in an office with 100 people.
I worked in a company for a few months, never felt like it was natural and was abused out of work, since then I just work at home I learned software programming, made a lot of true friends and one of them even got famous in the world of hacking and made a lot of money and we learned together I'm working on a font rendering and layout engine currently, feels good to work for yourself
'yeah we're a free market and all that crap but the government should force people to come into the office' my jaw actually dropped. She's unironically calling for serfdom.
@xraf32 we dont need that kind of thing around here. Just because a lot of western 'values' are imposed by the political and economic 'elite,' doesnt mean that it's the perspective of the general or any subset of the population.
"The office is one of our last institutions of community and connection." Go to church. Or a gym. Or a local book club. Or literally anywhere else. Just accept the fact that us introverts are not here to be forced to accommodate your social needs and screw off.
Even us extraverts want no part of this 😂. We have our own lives and own friends. Why would I want to waste my time driving to the office and pretending to vibe with her. Sounds exhausting
it’s so insulting for these CEOs to even pretend to care about their employees’ mental health. try getting leave for a mental health crisis from one of these clowns and i bet you’d catch a boot out the door so fast. it’s all metrics and control, why waste your breath pretending when you can’t even lie well?
This pandemic made me realize how much time i wasted in the office, going to the office and coming back from the office. Why companies are dropping remote work ? because they are not able to control us effectively, they want to stare at us the whole day, they want us waste time which can be effectively utilized with some other activities at home.
Well, if you are a commuter, part of the time you would have been depressed, you are instead either afraid of getting into an auto accident, or having some road rage. So there's that...
@@menopillion9853 What I hate most is that they pretend to care about our mental health, but never listen to our concerns. If the same work can be done at home I don’t see why people should be forced back into the office. They should be able to make their own decisions like grown adults.
@@melindagallegan5093 yeah so true. i only listen up if im the focus of conversation. i stretch, do other things, etc while call is going. in physical meeting, i have to be presentable, attentive, etc even if conversation is too long.
In my case I have to commute via public transit but since I live in a major US city that has good public transit. Either way though, it still takes an hour to commute. The only reason I’m even at my office is because it’s part of my job as the receptionist. But I personally like that almost everyone at my company is doing WFH. It means I can just have peace and quiet at the office and relax until I leave at 5 because apart from maybe 3-5 other people being in my big office no one ever comes in. So I’m pro WFH because I have a lot of independence from everyone else, and because if I did have a job that allowed WFH I’d absolutely be doing it myself to achieve maximum independence.
Dude I’m so glad that I found this channel. I work at a certain gigantic logistics company that goes by 3 letters and they’re talking about when we return to the office. The whole reason they gave behind it is that “everyone” misses being in the office around other people. I have yet to meet any of the people that feel this way.
Millennials are definitely not drinking the kook-aid. Majority of millennials have been saying this for years that there is no need for an office. If a CEO can do everything from a private jet, I can do it all from home or a cafe. Period!
I love working from home. Having to go in to the office annoys me. Had to waste nearly 4 hours the other week going to another office for a meeting then mandatory "team building" lunch. All I could think of the whole time is how much work I had waiting for me. The meeting could have been done online.
Instead of the grueling morning commute, how about you get up an hour early, make yourself a cup of coffee, listen to a podcast while actually having the TIME to plan your day. Yeah, how about that? I can bump into people and say hi all day long AFTER WORK while I go shopping at the local shopping center which is only 5 minutes from my house. The only thing that woman's POOR DAUGHTER is missing is $hitty office politics and having her manager walk by her cube 15 times a day to see what she is doing.
Agreed. We had a clique of movie fans at my office, a group of us who would go to the movies and hang out every couple of weeks, outside of work, on our own time. Sure, most of those people have long since moved on to other companies, but some of us still go to the movies and still hang out - because we are actual friends, not just colleagues. We have a real community of like-minded people who like to hang out, and the office plays no role in that anymore, apart from getting us together in the first place (and giving us material for rants, lol)
😂 he's got to sing from the same hymn sheet so to speak as his Boomer investors. A lot of renegade wantrepreneurs end up towing the pukey corporate line in the end. They decided to join them instead of beating them.
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
The issue is that so many do not have lives outside of the office. Either they hate their home life, have no social life, or want to force extroverted preferences on all.
Being in an office , especially if shared , is not beneficial for anyone health. Period. When I started working from home , I felt at the end of the day like I had plenty of energy left. I wonder if it was the commute or the comstant buzzing of being in an open space that was causing me to be tired , but got rid of both at the same time. And I'm now incredibely more productive , able to do my job in half the time.can use the free time to work out in my home gym ir simply go for a walk. Just perfect
How much are CEOs even in the office? Even if they are in the office, they get their own office but you get an open office for "innovation" and "creativity." Apparently they need a closed office to get work done but you don't.
When I had my own company I was in the office for a day or 2 out of 6. The rest of the time I was dealing with customers and installers. How much time is really required to be in the office depends on what the company does and where in the business growth cycle they are. Typically the newer the company is the more you need to be in the office growing it but eventually you just dont have to because your job is basically resource management and you can do that from anywhere
Literally all I could think about this whole time. I was told to go to a training for 2 weeks that was 3 hours away and when I asked how to get reimbursed for the hotel, they were like no. That is close enough that you will commute each day, and you cannot bill for the travel time. Wtf?!?!
My mental health was never better in my adult life than the 6 months I spent working remote. I got just as much done, many days I got more done because I wasn’t being distracted. It was awesome.
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
Human connection options: meet-ups, happy hours, non-profit volunteering, hanging out with family & friends, etc..If human connection is missing it’s because of the PANDEMIC..NOT because we’re working from home
This sounds like a classic psychopath's view of humanity. We're all insects and part of a hive, and there's no way the insects can possibly be happy without the hive with the CEO as the hive queen. Love your channel, dude.
@@leshawn.d.1805 teach her how to be more resilient? What kind of statement is that? For starter "resilience" is a virtue you cant't learn that. second mental health will come for you when it comes for you, it's not something you can just learn to not have an issue with. You either suffer or you don't and when you do then you can learn how to deal with it. But their is no learning to "get over it" before it's an issue.
@@user-nd7rd8jo6h A person can't be taught how to handle adversity and difficulties in life? Seriously? And let me guess, poor parenting can't negatively affect a person's mental health? Don't use quotes unless you're ACTUALLY quoting the person you're responding to. And yes, if her child had been raised in a manner that taught her how to handle difficulties as they arise there is a GOOD chance she would not have the problems she has today but no _sensible_ person would look at this woman and believe without substantial proof that she was an even remotely competent and active parent in her child's life. It's the unfortunate reality that most highly successful people have to make many sacrifices to get where they are and family is usually a casualty in seeking that goal. OR, she's just lying and using her child for her own ends. Either way, you're completely wrong about people being unable to handle life's difficulties if they have the right guidanace and training to do so. And before you say it, no, it's not an absolute. Some people can get all the support, guidance and love in the world but still succumb to mental health issues. That still doesn't negate the fact that the above mentioned significantly decreases the likelihood of it happening.
@@leshawn.d.1805 mental health is a forged in fire kind of thing. Sure you can get some guidance in your upbringing and I'm not saying that accounts for nothing but really it's not until you truly suffer it that you have any idea how it operates and how it disables. You can't harden yourself to something like that in advance. You can improve your disposition you can set a healthy framework and that's something you could get through a healthy upbringing but to say "learn to not have mental health problems" is so out of touch I'm not even surprised. The transition from ok, to crisis is often so imprescriptible it far more often than not takes a crisis or a drastic quality of life degradation to begin acting on it, so how are you expecting someone to be in a position to learn it when they aren't in it's midst? That all said I can certainly agree that this lady was probably not very available to help facilitate that framework or to offset some of those dispositions and given her language in this interview she Is most certainly creating a narrative to suit her talking point. Cause I'm sorry but a podcast does not offset the financial burden and the time sink required to transport onself to a office much less the toll of actually being in that environment, especially when most office jobs can be done...while listening to podcasts! I work from home, I repurposed a bedroom into an office so I have a lot of leg room and way to many plants and multiple windows to get some kind of sun while working... As a CSR in a office I'd have a small space, maybe a succulent and halogen lighting... It's 40steps to my office as opposed to 40-65minutes to the office (without traffic) anyone making a case for this being better than my situation clearly has some issues that don't lend to the most caring of parenting.
I have to go back to office this week. I dread it. Putting in month notice and I am out ASAP. I don’t ever want to work in a cubicle ever again! You are so on point with your work!! I am 48 and I must think more like younger people because life as we have lived it was awful and I am ready for these geezers to get with the program!
I sometimes drive around looking for traffic to sit in. And I just sob in traffic and tell the cars around me how grateful I am to be here. And I beg road workers to take their time because I dont want to lose this feeling.
Not only has the business I worked for saved a lot of money by introducing remote working, I have as well. Less money spent on fuel for the car, I don’t wear makeup on work days anymore, don’t have to be dressed up just for work, can cook easily at home when I’m hungry. So many benefits
Josh is spot on again! Working remotely allows me so much more time to spend with my family, kids, pets, improve my mental health, have more time to exercise and sleep and be productive. The toxicity of office politics is reduced as well.
Damn straight. With remote working, you have... -No workplace bullying and harassment -You can use your own bathroom, not the disgusting public restrooms -Less getting sick from contagious diseases, including colds and flus -No commute -Can work in sweat pants and a t-shirt -No chance of dying in a workplace mass shooting. Morbid, but a very real risk, especially in the USA. In fact, I can't think of any downsides -- for the employee -- of remote working. For that matter, I can't think of any downsides for management, other than they can't micromanage you and create more needless stress in your life.
@@mushroomsteve u forgot breakfast. With remote work, you can take your time to make coffee or toast instead of rushing to the office. Thats a good start to begin the day.
"The office is the last institution of community" or whatever crazy sentence this guy spouted is where I really lost it. Bro is beyond a social reject. I thought I was kind of a loner, but I guess not. At least, I have my church, my shooting range and my boxing gym where I can socialize. And it's only the first things that came atop of my head because they are my favorite places. There are countless activities you can do if you want to make friends. I only got one friend from my last job, and the company has 100's of employees.
They talk about how coming into the office is "vital" to their "culture". And then next week they will fire half the team and outsource them to India, forcing everyone to work over Zoom in the office.
16:50 it makes a difference actually. Some people would rather not work in a highly competitive environment with untrustworthy people all around, preferring friendlier coworkers and calmer atmosphere. However, it should not be raised as an argument by the hirers, as it is not a quantifiable quality. Putting "good atmosphere" in a job offer is equivalent to naming being nice on your résumé as a skill.
I'm a single mom and have been working from home since 2020. I absolutely love it! I go on a lunch walk with my son and mom to this really nice nature trail or public library to check out books or run errands... wouldn't trade the time I've been there for my son and family for anything in the world. I get more rest, wake up and don't have to make the stressful morning and evening commute with all the road rage drivers. I drink my coffee and eat my breakfast and I thank God for my day. I have my own bathroom and food and my own personal space! My son is also in virtual school which has allowed him extra attention and flexibility! I have worked in an office setting since I was 21 and was bullied, harassed, mocked, micro managed, gaslighted, sabotaged, gossiped about, retaliated all in the name of office politics. It was straight hell.
If that woman literally wants human interaction or to socialize at work then she shouldn't be working an office job. She should be working a field job like in the Medical Industry, a Hostess at a Gentleman's Club, or Coach.
That’s exactly what Ive done the past two years; I need a break from having a job at home on a screen all day and so I get a summer job working for the US census or a theme park.
Thank you for making this video and this critique!! Thank you! This was much needed and more people need to see this. I'm an MBA, an executive, I manage all kinds of people I'm all for as much freedom as possible. I'm in favor of working from home, and I'm trying to eliminate "work schedules" altogether. Some of my staff prefer to work nights because they're night owls and I let them. They listen to lofi beats and get their work done at 3 am, and they've never been more productive.
Nothing says "I have failed at relationships" like "You are only human if you work and you need to spend more time with random people instead of your family". I like how she states she hasn't failed at relationships, yet this sociopath of a person never really had any to begin with because she obviously doesn't understand why someone would actually have them. Honestly, I watched some other parts of her video and it is one horror after another, complete disregard for how human beings function, coming from someone who is just barely human.
Oh yeah sociopath would make sense. Because she wouldn’t understand human connection at all. She thinks human connection is having a bunch of people who have to be nice to her, because she’s the boss. She doesn’t understand that people have actual real connections with other people that take time, and that time can be used from a commute. Plus, she doesn’t care.
Joshua is absolutely right - work is not where you should find a social life. But my father a military man, has his main social and friend circle were his fellow soldiers who he fought alongside. I suppose they were just 'your fake buddies at work'. Fair enough.
I’m 43 and the office is not a place i really want to stay more than what’s necessary. I have a good job but i still would rather be at home.. Love your videos.. i share your frustration for these brainless corporate leaders.. they just want to control people. Bringing people back to the office is just some weird self fulfilling power trip that justifies a CEO’s existence.. which is pathetic.
Yeah I think these CEOs are having people come in to show adoration or elation, because they are the bigwig, THAT’S really what they are in for. Maybe the office is what makes THEM feel human. These dysfunctional freakin people. It’s proven then getting more time back in your day improves mental health. The only time having the office to go into being a matter of improving mental health, is when your work situation at home is untenable. Like maybe a bad relationship, or loud children never stop interrupting.
and of course CEOs think it's all sunshine and rainbows. Have you ever seen a CEO walk around an office? They're surrounded by an army of yes men and kiss asses. Some employees might ask to shake their hand or pose for a picture if it's a big company. Of course the office looks amazing if that's your experience. If every joke you tell is funny. If every anecdote you have is insightful. Life looks quite different for the guy typing on spreadsheets for 7 hours and who has some mixed vegetables waiting in the work fridge.
AMEN!! Too much weird shit goes on at the office today. A bunch of rude, gossipy people. I’ve WFH for over 20 years and I only want to socialize with WHO I CHOOSE TO!
I'm with you on this one, it is stupid. Ppl should have the option, there's ppl that prefer the office bc they feel more productive there or they don't have a quiet space at home to do their work. I do think that is nice from time to time to socialize with colleagues in person and go for beers or food after work but that is def not a reason to say everyone must go back to the office. About the government intervention, is freaking stupid how the hell do they want the UK government to force ppl to do their jobs at an office? Maybe they own office buildings that are not being rented and they are losing money. honestly they are crazy
I actually had more positive thoughts about work when working from home. I felt productive and was never tired. Whenever I went into work, I always felt tired and unmotivated
same here. I used to be absolutely exhausted by the time I came home from work. now I have the energy to do whatever the f I want to. also no more monday blues :D
if you're asking me to come to the office tell it the way it is: you want me there so you can micromanage the crap out of me. Don't sugar-coat it, stop pretending that you care about my life, don't tell me it's good for me because I know better.
18:10: AND THERE IT IS. She said: "I need people around me. I need it." And later she says: "When you feel as confident as you do, you are able to give up that control." Which is so ironic that it is actually sad. So...her company's telecommuting policy is dictated not on mission, or on the product or service. It is dictated by her undiagnosed mental health issues. Lovely.
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
Great points. Mary Portas is indeed out of touch in her argument of getting people back to the office. She lives on a different planet in fact. Dictating what it means to be human? (what an ego) And defining being human it as going into the office? That's a very sad statement and say a lot about her. Sitting in her North London townhouse or vacation home in the Cotswalds calling the shots and being free to "be you" at work (because you're the boss).... must be nice to a one percenter CEO. Everyone doesn't need to go back to the office. Everyone is different- how hard is that for her to understand? "I know but I need it" Narcissist red flag :O And she twists Jane Jacobs' "the eyes on the street" concept trying to prove her narrow privileged opinion. The office is not a neighborhood. I was a fan of Steven Bartlet until this interview and especially when he mentioned that employees shouldn't have an option of whether they go back to the office or not. His company can be run remotely since it deals with digital media. Oh Steven....
“I work to live not live to work” has been my motto since I was 18. Worked out well, 50+ year olds think I’m lazy for not wanting to work more than 10 hour days (hourly here)
Well, the "live to work" phase is typical of twenty-something, because they are eager to prove themselves worthy, was one of those; but once you see it does not make any difference at the end , the motto switch fast to "work to live" and stay there
I would kill to be able to wake up at 8 AM, feeling fully refreshed and ready to start the day, before working in the comfort and freedom of my own home where I can concentrate on my work with fewer distractions. Not to mention spending less money on gas, tolls, and vehicle maintenance, and not to mention feeling less stressed, less depressed, and less anxious. This lady is out of touch with reality.
Working from home this past year plus is the absolute best thing that has ever happened to me at work. After struggling going into work after my teenager died in 2013 and treated like I had to keep performing as I always had was excruciating! This is the first time in 8 years I’ve actually had a balanced life on my terms. And I’m single with my own home. And I’m not disconnected from humans at all.... these people are pathetic!
Going to a cage-office and working for a control freak narcissist CEO is not something that "makes us human" at all. But for sure helping and supporting the people that will defend our rights for freedom of choice is in my opinion something that makes us human. Empathy is what makes us human and not putting people in a cage-office and then as CEO enjoy how your employees are eating each other. This is so grouse to see how those managers are feeding with the sufferance of other people. This CEO from the video proved lacked of empathy and in my opinion this is the true definition of evil. All of us have a great responsibility to expose and criticize this attitude. Great job Joshua! I appreciate what you are doing.
Working from home, no need to commute, imagine the savings on fuel, repair and maintenance, dry cleaning, laundry, expensive coffee and lunches and 2 to 4 hours of free time instead of being stuck in traffic.
And all the money your company saves because of the they dont have to pay the bills for light and water so they save so much money because the offices are closed
Unfortunately, offices that try to force the idea of having a community, often start to enforce the requirements for “mandatory fun” events, when most employees would rather just get back to work so they can finish what they were doing and go home to enjoy their families or ACTUAL home-life communities. It’s great that companies and executive leadership want to try to keep their employees happy, but they also need to understand that an employee is NEVER going to care about a company as much as the executives who run it, and they shouldn’t be expected to. Most employees work to live, not live to work. And please remember, “mandatory fun” is never actually fun. It just shows how out of touch leadership usually is.
It really is sad that people's only social experience and friends are those that they work with. Nobody has hobbies or ventures out to connect with others that enjoy the same things as them
The problem is, the CEO can go and have hobbies and friendly meet ups, but in that context she won't be the CEO. The office is where peacocks go to roost. You remove that, and they need to find another way to strut.
1.) bosses def love the office so they can strut around like politicians. 2.) workers who cling around the office extra long are usually avoiding their spouse at home. 3.) workers organize through text how to sneak out for lunch so that an annoying co-worker doesn't come along. One poor guy had to share a cubicle office w him and needed out. Writing code doesn't require 80dB voice. I needed to edit video and hear. His voice overpowered pro DJ cans.
They're having a social crisis because they're learning the reality that most people don't mind working for compensation, but most don't want to go into the work because it is a terrible and toxic place of mind and power games. I just want to get compensated for my work and have my own life. It's like they're so clingy.
It's the hive mentality. They think we all have a work bee desire to hover around and at the beck and call of the "queen"/corporation. Instead of truthfully just trying to do our best to support ourselves and our families.
Had a crappy boss who wouldn’t let any employees work remotely (this was pre pandemic), despite some of us needing to commute one or two hours. He had this “We need to connect as a whole.” crap. He just wanted someone to yell at and micromanage. When I requested to work from home (so I would only have to commute to my second job’s rehearsals and showtimes, I also work in showbiz), he refused. I got my things, packed them up, and quit without notice and without saying goodbye.
Lol @ the guy basically saying "the leader should be a dictator". Jocko Willink explained it well in his book, being a good leader is not barking orders. You need to take stock of what your people think, what the goal is, and formulate a plan based on that. Not just tell them "you have to do this, or else". These people are just high school nerds that got bullied, and now want to exert their little bit of power over other people. No thanks, I'm happy freelancing from my apartment, and my clients seem to be happy, too.
Nah ' high school nerds 'end up doing smart roles that require talent. The talentless business students that spent all uni partying and travelling because they 'love meeting people's are the ones ending up in middle management.
I really really don't get these people. I've worked in an office for a year and a half, didn't get that close to my team. I just joined a new company 3 months ago, haven't met anyone phisically and I feel so much closer to them then I feel to my old team. Since the pandemic started I also got to know my neighbors better. I only see positives since I started working from home. My mental health is so much better too, I was always depressed because I lost 4 hours or more of my day just comuting to work.
Here’s a theory for consideration: maybe the people desperate to return to the office are the less-than-productive people? You know: the meeting jockeys, the marketing folks…. The people who wouldn’t be missed if they were abducted by aliens. Edit: the comments on the video Josh is viewing are hilarious.
Bloat employees that needed to be axed anyway but the CEO doesn't do anything because they're out of touch too. WFH cut out the unnecessary bloat jobs, employees, and activities so they can't control actually productive workers who do their jobs well and bloat employees kick up a fuss about it.
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
Nice video man. I used to commute 2 hours to work 2 hours home and it absolutely fucked up my mental health.I still working an office but my commute is a helible lot shorter. And I can work home certain days of the week. And I've noticed that I am absolutely not waking up anxious or stressed out on Monday morning's anymore. I don't feel like I'm wasting my time sitting in traffic or at an office job that I hate.Think about how many hours we waste in traffic of our lives and what could we do with that time if we got it back.I think about this stuff regularly to the point where I've almost made my own Podcast about it.. Love the video man keep it up
When I think of community, I think of my family, my friends, people I take fitness classes with, the people at my Quaker meeting. NOT work. Lord have mercy these people need personal lives
This woman has made her job HER LIFE. Others use their job's income to finance their lives. These "CEO's" can't expect others to feel the same way about the companies they work for as they do.
I get to avoid walking half a mile to the office in this heat wave after parallel parking in some BS spot and arriving to my cubical all sweaty thanks to remote work, nasty Keurig can't beat that
All things going on in the world, all the other issues that we need to go to the top about, going to the top about working in the office isn’t one of them!
It really is amazing to me how this dude doing the interview associates his whole sense of community around being in the office. As if you can't find a sense of community and togetherness ANYWHERE ELSE but in an office, while you're working. That right there is someone that defines their entire self-worth by their job.
It's almost like no one wants to interact with him outside of the office (gee, I wonder why) but IN the office these poor shmucks are forced to do it (or get fired for any or no reason)! Weird, isn't it?
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
The commute my father made every day of his working life to support us was *a sacrifice* for us to have the comforts of suburban living with the income of city work. The hell did I just hear?
I'd commute every day to NOT live in a suburban neighborhood. It's the most soulless, humanity-destroying concept I've ever seen. Fuck it, give me an apartment on top of the walled city over suburbia. I didn't understand the phrase "white people have no culture" until I saw this garbage. It ACTUALLY has no culture. I wasn't aware it was possible for so many humans to live somewhere and have no culture. I'm not surprised the suicide rate there is so high. The fact that you can brainwash people to DESIRE this is proof that many people have been completely alienated from what makes us human.
@@Nerobyrne ah. I was wondering when the "THE SUBURBS SUCK BUT I'VE NEVER LIVED THERE LOL I'M EDGY" response would show up. What is wrong with you that you are so compelled to repeat such nonsense? What culture are YOU actively creating that you can proclaim others lack?
@@mgancarzjr Culture naturally develops where humans congregate. Which is why I wonder what happened to Americans that they think this kind of lifestyle is desirable. Can you describe what's good about it? The fact that there's nothing for literally miles? The fact that you have to drive several hours for anything remotely worth your time? The fact that you paid large sums of money or your parents worked themselves to death for something most other people would pay money NOT to experience? What good thing are you experiencing in this dirth of humanity that you call a neighborhood? PS: I wasn't aware that there were so many other people who felt that way, but it makes sense. I reached this conclusion on my own when I looked up "Suburban neighborhood" after hearing people talk about it, and couldn't believe people PAY MONEY to live in what are essentially human breeding farms. If aliens invented a way to farm humans, that's what I'd imagine they would create.
@@Nerobyrne I live in the burbs and keep an office on one of the most urban downtown blocks in my state (I'm self-employed so it's a choice). There is 100x more life and community right now in my suburban neighborhood than there is downtown. There's actually more cultural diversity. Especially among families. Life is where the people are. I love it downtown. I like to walk from place to place during the day. But it's not "better" than the burbs. Just different.
Growing up, when my dad got sick he would take a sick day. That is he would stay home and go back to work when he was better in a day or two. Where I work, if someone gets sick, the expectatiom is that you work from home. And I don't mean a soft expectation I mean a hard expectation as in if you say, "I'm not feeling well I need to go home and resr" and the COO will ask "ok, are you going to work from home?"
"Getting up at 8am and go straight on zoom", yeah I don't have to take an hour or two out of my day just to sit in traffic, it's great. I save time and money. I also listen to my music and podcasts when I'm working.
I agree with everything she said. I have been working from home for 10 years, and it has negatively impacted my well-being and my family, I'm so lost without even realizing it. When I try to recall those past years, everything feels like a blur. That's why I'm returning to an office-based job, I miss working with people and I want to feel normal again. This comes from someone who doesn't enjoy meeting people or making small talk.
I work in social services; this past year and three months we have been working from home. It has given so many of the workers at our company additional time they need to recover from an already stressful job. Working from home helps prevent burnout and in many ways is just logical. We need to attend client visits in-person due to having to evaluate their living conditions and environment but the rest of the job can be done remotely (about 90%). I think the major companies over time will go to remote work but it will take time as humans hate change and they late losing control.
With all these health measures, doing remote work is the best option. But then I wonder, what will happen when all these remote workers create their own remote communities and go at it alone? Looks like these companies will not longer have any more slaves to exploit.
Keep fighting the good fight on CEO’s against flexible work environment. Edit* I love how things people think* we should live, breathe, socialize only at work. I’m at work for a paycheck so I can have money to do my cosplays. 80% of people at work are NOT into what I like.
There comes a point, when this ceases to be innocent anecdote worthy of jest, and becomes insidious deceit and treachery deserving of disgust and contempt. And we are well past the latter. These people are not gods, masters, or (our) parents. They're, far too often, not even objectively "good" people. And they clearly need to be reacquainted with this reality.
joshua, i would love to get your opinion and take on why, honestly, these people think this way.. why *exactly* do managers and companies push for in-office environment for work? what is the real reason why they are so adamant? especially for companies that not only dont *need* to, but have proven for 1.5 years that they dont need to.. i feel like it cant be because of costs, wouldn't they be saving 10-15% of their money if they dont need to pay for rent? even further, might be a stretch but one could argue that employees at home can be even healthier with more sleep and a better nutrition plan, decreasing the amount of medical problems that ultimately come back to the employer that needs to pay for their employees' share of insurance.. also saving on other benefits like pretax programs for transportation costs of employees.. can you make a video about this?
This podcast would have been more interesting if they brought in their commercial real estate portfolios and made comparisons of how large their HR departments in those buildings are... Next time folks
I do agree that I like small talk…I know the guys at the gas station and the local restaurant where I grab lunch very well. Sarah’s daughter just graduated and Luke just got back into world of Warcraft. Kaylee who works at the coffee shop also coaches summer gymnastics classes. Small talk is just that easy. The office also isn’t community connection. Community is community, the office is only a portion of it. What I see happening is a series of breakdowns of people discovering that they don’t have the robust social lives they thought they did. They’re used to having people around them that HAD to be there instead of having people around them they enjoy.
There is such an interesting conversation to be had around the loss a sense of community and what we can do about urban planning to reclaim that. But why does your work have to be your community? I ride my bike to the sandwich shop at lunch time, I lift weights in my basement with my neighbor, why do I have to do that stuff with co-workers? I'm in the camp of hybrid WFH being preferred but if office work is required in the fall when they start letting employees in, I'm looking for a new job.
@@Tac_3D Mega cities are a natural consequence of job opportunities tendency to centralize, ie one industry is in town, talent moves to town to get a job, competitors move to town because talent is there, auxiliary industries move to town for support, service industry grows because of all these people in town etc so we can't just stop. If its going to happen, we need to prepare our cities in a way that doesn't isolate people. I'm a big fan of channels like 'Not Just Bikes' and think walkability and lowering required car use is the key. Seems like the isolation is worst in American suburban towns, start your car in you garage, go to work alone in your car, come back and park in your garage. Never really meet your neighbors that way.
@@Tac_3D there is no backroom of elite extroverts creating cities, cities have existed forever, current density is a function of technology. Low density housing with modern amenities is MUCH worse for the environment per capita because of how far you have to run out infrastructure like sewage, roads etc. Suburbs end up being a tax leach on cities. If you wanna live out in the suburbs, go for it but it should be much more expensive than it is now and I hope you're prepared to pay for it. If you can hop on board, we can make our cities quiter and more private as well.
Somebody come get grandma, she's off her rocker again. 🤡🤡
Edit - obviously don't go brigading. I'm just linking the source so you can see the context for yourself. When I don't link it people say "atleast give credit to the source" and when I do link it they say "youre asking people to harass!". TL:DR don't be morons.
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KEEP GRINDING EVERYONE!
Josh, this has got to be your best one yet. You'll have content for days by ripping these linkedin influencers apart. Keep it up!
@@peterdoyle6171 Maybe we should take a closer look at our boy steve, his glass door seems entertaining
@@JoshuaFluke1 those two 'CEOs' don't even register as human. It's hilarious hearing you take them down. You're a voice for the voiceless, keep putting cracks in their glass ceiling 🤣
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When the slave owner tells you that the chains are what makes you human.
This comment should be at the top
Speaking of slaves. A guy that got fired said. "I'm fired? I thought slaves were sold"
Your comment is Gold
BINGO!
Life's a choice ya dum dum. You chose to be a slave and make less. Sounds like you wasted your life.
Our department took a vote on this. Results 0% Full in Person, 5% hybrid, 95% full virtual. They are now closing our office building down and consolidating down to the remaining office building locally. This is a F 500 company so it’s some progress.
Thats awesome!!;
"office is what means to be human" is the most depressing thing I will hear this week. Happy Monday everyone.
The little hope for humanity i had, died when it heard that
Before offices existed there were no humans, don't you know?
On the bright side, you have a whole week left & nothing will make you as depressed as this video! 🤣🤣🤣
The week's just started. More than enough time for humanity to reach new lows!
I work in office, so I exist.
I've been working remote since April~ 2020... I've never been happier while working. I hate small talk, I hate having to fake working to make myself look busy. I hate the 1.5hr commute by bus when it could take me 20 mins by car (my wife needs the car more than me). Now, I wake up 10 mins before my work begins, I can stay in sweat pants all day, I don't need to worry about "hey boss, how are you?", I can enjoy my video games during down time and I can actually get household chores done at the same time so I can free up my evenings. I've never been better mentally.
If her daughter lives at home with this lady, then it is bad for her mental health.
Definitely a good point, haha.
Only problem I see is the lady
BOOM! In yo face!
Right? She seems like a nutty narcissist. Her daughter needs to away from her- yikes!
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I worked in an office that makes me anxious and literally sad every night …
The best human connection is with family and neighbors
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
And nature
Plot twist: the daughter doesn't have to be on Zoom until noon, she just wants to avoid her mom
Cackled out loud on that one
i personally don't want to head straight to a zoom call. but im not exactly excited to be at the office.
lol
Wouldn't be surprised if that truly was the case. No irony at all.
She's coming to the realization that people can work at her company without her. Hence she's sensing her own redundancy.
Bam!
BREAKING NEWS: CEO wants workers' lives to be centered around the company.
More specifically, to be centered around her emptiness.
you don't understand. it's not the company - it's family :)
(forget about firing because 'nothing personal - just business' for a sec, c'mon) :)
If she wants that so badly and believes in that so strongly, she has to go old-school and build a "company town": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town
Kick out the cash, employee stock ownership, and subsidize employee housing/rent, or let the employee work remote (especially if white-collar).
Democrats tried to demonize churches, locked everything down so people couldn't go out and gather for parties, meetups, family reunions, etc and now their corporate masters want to replace actual communities and places of gathering with the office. A natural extension of offering "free food" as a benefit and game rooms and other recreational junk no one is actually allowed to use. It's pretty clear to me the government and corporations are working hand in hand to turn us into drones.
@@acsound Google has basically proposed that before. Google co-developed smart cities. They're not explicitly stated to be company towns but you can easily imagine the end result. IIRC the plans were shelved a few years ago, but I suspect there will be a big push for it again, possibly with covid or other virus/disease tracking as an excuse.
edit: google already worked with Massachusetts to silently push MassNotify, a covid track and map app, to android devices.
These people are not just extroverts, they're energy vampires. They need people around them so they can feed on someone.
This is exactly what this is..
The term "Energy Vampire" from What We Do In the Shadows. So accurate!
I'm convinced CEOs only want us to come back to the office because they have no social lives outside of work. I mean, that's how they earned the CEO title right?
they want people back so they can have actual physical people to be a "CEO" around.
And .... they want the control. They get off on it.
@@wilobrien9731 that part.
Agreed, they like to come into the physical office for the palpable power they feel. It comes from insecurity. Let go of the fear people!
I don't think that's it. It's more they don't like feeling out of control. It's harder to justify their position when they can't be pretending to do work all day by "socializing" with employees. When you can justify half your day walking around talking to employees for "employee bonding" and then you're forced to do remote work where the expectation is you're 100% productive even if you were only 50% productive in office... yeah... they'd rather just throw all the employees under the bus for their own benefit.
Working from home is a blessing for introverts. More work actually gets done. Most organizational studies state that people in the office only perform 3 hours of work a day. Most of the time is socializing. I would love to see the stats of bullying and sexual harassment. I am certain that went down dramatically. Most large meetings are just narcissists giving each other supply.
As an introvert, I can strongly believe this.
The only thing "squeezing our little souls" are corporate policies.
No. The office is NOT one of the last institutions of human connectivity. That statement is a kick in the face to all of us who mostly work alone every day. I have way more community now than I did when I worked in an office with 100 people.
Totally agree the office is often a lonely place with little interactivey
Work never ends, but social circles ends, so in person meeting is more important than the work itself
@Maintenance Renegade I have a tendency to bring along the best ones from company to company.
The office is full of fake interaction. Home is better. Fake people want the fake interaction.
I worked in a company for a few months, never felt like it was natural and was abused out of work, since then I just work at home I learned software programming, made a lot of true friends and one of them even got famous in the world of hacking and made a lot of money and we learned together I'm working on a font rendering and layout engine currently, feels good to work for yourself
'yeah we're a free market and all that crap but the government should force people to come into the office' my jaw actually dropped. She's unironically calling for serfdom.
yeah this guy is a "small government" type, in every other instance.
That female CEO is living in an alternate universe.
@xraf32 we dont need that kind of thing around here. Just because a lot of western 'values' are imposed by the political and economic 'elite,' doesnt mean that it's the perspective of the general or any subset of the population.
Great avatar brother.
@xraf32 lots. Find yourself a BASED and/or BASED and CHRISTPILLED wife and you're golden
@@conservovirtus5796 thanks!
@@dylanwaters3146 well said
"The office is one of our last institutions of community and connection."
Go to church. Or a gym. Or a local book club. Or literally anywhere else. Just accept the fact that us introverts are not here to be forced to accommodate your social needs and screw off.
Even us extraverts want no part of this 😂. We have our own lives and own friends. Why would I want to waste my time driving to the office and pretending to vibe with her. Sounds exhausting
it’s so insulting for these CEOs to even pretend to care about their employees’ mental health. try getting leave for a mental health crisis from one of these clowns and i bet you’d catch a boot out the door so fast. it’s all metrics and control, why waste your breath pretending when you can’t even lie well?
Concerns employees' mental health but keeps forcing unpaid overtime. Yeah, right...
Or being naive and confiding to them about mental illness and they used what you confided in them against you.
This pandemic made me realize how much time i wasted in the office, going to the office and coming back from the office. Why companies are dropping remote work ? because they are not able to control us effectively, they want to stare at us the whole day, they want us waste time which can be effectively utilized with some other activities at home.
How is waking up early to commute to work any less depressing than getting on Zoom LMAO
Well, if you are a commuter, part of the time you would have been depressed, you are instead either afraid of getting into an auto accident, or having some road rage. So there's that...
@@menopillion9853 What I hate most is that they pretend to care about our mental health, but never listen to our concerns. If the same work can be done at home I don’t see why people should be forced back into the office. They should be able to make their own decisions like grown adults.
At least with Zoom you can zone out without someone looking over our souls.
@@melindagallegan5093 yeah so true. i only listen up if im the focus of conversation. i stretch, do other things, etc while call is going. in physical meeting, i have to be presentable, attentive, etc even if conversation is too long.
In my case I have to commute via public transit but since I live in a major US city that has good public transit. Either way though, it still takes an hour to commute. The only reason I’m even at my office is because it’s part of my job as the receptionist. But I personally like that almost everyone at my company is doing WFH. It means I can just have peace and quiet at the office and relax until I leave at 5 because apart from maybe 3-5 other people being in my big office no one ever comes in. So I’m pro WFH because I have a lot of independence from everyone else, and because if I did have a job that allowed WFH I’d absolutely be doing it myself to achieve maximum independence.
Dude I’m so glad that I found this channel. I work at a certain gigantic logistics company that goes by 3 letters and they’re talking about when we return to the office. The whole reason they gave behind it is that “everyone” misses being in the office around other people. I have yet to meet any of the people that feel this way.
Millennials are definitely not drinking the kook-aid. Majority of millennials have been saying this for years that there is no need for an office. If a CEO can do everything from a private jet, I can do it all from home or a cafe. Period!
I love working from home. Having to go in to the office annoys me. Had to waste nearly 4 hours the other week going to another office for a meeting then mandatory "team building" lunch. All I could think of the whole time is how much work I had waiting for me. The meeting could have been done online.
Instead of the grueling morning commute, how about you get up an hour early, make yourself a cup of coffee, listen to a podcast while actually having the TIME to plan your day. Yeah, how about that? I can bump into people and say hi all day long AFTER WORK while I go shopping at the local shopping center which is only 5 minutes from my house. The only thing that woman's POOR DAUGHTER is missing is $hitty office politics and having her manager walk by her cube 15 times a day to see what she is doing.
The only thing "squeezing our little souls" are corporate policies.
If he had a 'real community' from his co-workers, he wouldn't need to return to the office to see them again
Agreed. We had a clique of movie fans at my office, a group of us who would go to the movies and hang out every couple of weeks, outside of work, on our own time. Sure, most of those people have long since moved on to other companies, but some of us still go to the movies and still hang out - because we are actual friends, not just colleagues. We have a real community of like-minded people who like to hang out, and the office plays no role in that anymore, apart from getting us together in the first place (and giving us material for rants, lol)
He's 25 and the office was the only place he could make friends? This dude just admitted to being the real life Michael Scott.
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Only because they're forced to interact with him since he's the CEO. What an insufferable kahunt he must be.
😂 he's got to sing from the same hymn sheet so to speak as his Boomer investors. A lot of renegade wantrepreneurs end up towing the pukey corporate line in the end. They decided to join them instead of beating them.
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
He's going to try to sell that notion to ALL of his investors AND the media, not just the "Boomers".@@metastract
The issue is that so many do not have lives outside of the office. Either they hate their home life, have no social life, or want to force extroverted preferences on all.
Why I hate corporate? Because the ones in position of power have opinions and their opinions (the false ones) affect your life.
Being in an office , especially if shared , is not beneficial for anyone health. Period.
When I started working from home , I felt at the end of the day like I had plenty of energy left. I wonder if it was the commute or the comstant buzzing of being in an open space that was causing me to be tired , but got rid of both at the same time.
And I'm now incredibely more productive , able to do my job in half the time.can use the free time to work out in my home gym ir simply go for a walk. Just perfect
How much are CEOs even in the office? Even if they are in the office, they get their own office but you get an open office for "innovation" and "creativity." Apparently they need a closed office to get work done but you don't.
C O L L A B O R A T E
When I had my own company I was in the office for a day or 2 out of 6. The rest of the time I was dealing with customers and installers. How much time is really required to be in the office depends on what the company does and where in the business growth cycle they are. Typically the newer the company is the more you need to be in the office growing it but eventually you just dont have to because your job is basically resource management and you can do that from anywhere
Questioning your CEO = one-way trip to the salt mines you slave!
Literally all I could think about this whole time. I was told to go to a training for 2 weeks that was 3 hours away and when I asked how to get reimbursed for the hotel, they were like no. That is close enough that you will commute each day, and you cannot bill for the travel time. Wtf?!?!
@@InfiniteQuest86 how many miles was it?
My mental health was never better in my adult life than the 6 months I spent working remote. I got just as much done, many days I got more done because I wasn’t being distracted. It was awesome.
Yup! Distraction work productivity loss is real!!!
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
Human connection options: meet-ups, happy hours, non-profit volunteering, hanging out with family & friends, etc..If human connection is missing it’s because of the PANDEMIC..NOT because we’re working from home
I love you
Exactly
@@kristineensor1898 I love you
Eeeyup.
Meanwhile work from home has made me much closer to my son than I was with my dad and that is priceless.
We're missing a human connection because. Gov wants to isolate, divide and conquer. The scamdemic was just a means to an end
This sounds like a classic psychopath's view of humanity. We're all insects and part of a hive, and there's no way the insects can possibly be happy without the hive with the CEO as the hive queen. Love your channel, dude.
“Even when I go in…”, So the person dictating people going in doesn’t actually go in often? Really funny how that works…
She mentions her daughter's mental health but how much of that stems from poor upbringing where this woman didn't teach her how to be more resilient?
@@leshawn.d.1805 teach her how to be more resilient? What kind of statement is that?
For starter "resilience" is a virtue you cant't learn that. second mental health will come for you when it comes for you, it's not something you can just learn to not have an issue with.
You either suffer or you don't and when you do then you can learn how to deal with it. But their is no learning to "get over it" before it's an issue.
@@user-nd7rd8jo6h A person can't be taught how to handle adversity and difficulties in life? Seriously? And let me guess, poor parenting can't negatively affect a person's mental health?
Don't use quotes unless you're ACTUALLY quoting the person you're responding to. And yes, if her child had been raised in a manner that taught her how to handle difficulties as they arise there is a GOOD chance she would not have the problems she has today but no _sensible_ person would look at this woman and believe without substantial proof that she was an even remotely competent and active parent in her child's life. It's the unfortunate reality that most highly successful people have to make many sacrifices to get where they are and family is usually a casualty in seeking that goal.
OR, she's just lying and using her child for her own ends.
Either way, you're completely wrong about people being unable to handle life's difficulties if they have the right guidanace and training to do so. And before you say it, no, it's not an absolute. Some people can get all the support, guidance and love in the world but still succumb to mental health issues. That still doesn't negate the fact that the above mentioned significantly decreases the likelihood of it happening.
@@user-nd7rd8jo6h i understand your point but disagree
@@leshawn.d.1805 mental health is a forged in fire kind of thing. Sure you can get some guidance in your upbringing and I'm not saying that accounts for nothing but really it's not until you truly suffer it that you have any idea how it operates and how it disables. You can't harden yourself to something like that in advance. You can improve your disposition you can set a healthy framework and that's something you could get through a healthy upbringing but to say "learn to not have mental health problems" is so out of touch I'm not even surprised.
The transition from ok, to crisis is often so imprescriptible it far more often than not takes a crisis or a drastic quality of life degradation to begin acting on it, so how are you expecting someone to be in a position to learn it when they aren't in it's midst?
That all said I can certainly agree that this lady was probably not very available to help facilitate that framework or to offset some of those dispositions and given her language in this interview she Is most certainly creating a narrative to suit her talking point.
Cause I'm sorry but a podcast does not offset the financial burden and the time sink required to transport onself to a office much less the toll of actually being in that environment, especially when most office jobs can be done...while listening to podcasts!
I work from home, I repurposed a bedroom into an office so I have a lot of leg room and way to many plants and multiple windows to get some kind of sun while working... As a CSR in a office I'd have a small space, maybe a succulent and halogen lighting... It's 40steps to my office as opposed to 40-65minutes to the office (without traffic) anyone making a case for this being better than my situation clearly has some issues that don't lend to the most caring of parenting.
I have to go back to office this week. I dread it. Putting in month notice and I am out ASAP. I don’t ever want to work in a cubicle ever again! You are so on point with your work!! I am 48 and I must think more like younger people because life as we have lived it was awful and I am ready for these geezers to get with the program!
When people start working remotely and prioritizing their time more, no one gets hit worse than managers and CEOs.
Uh oh, looks like the concept of managers are fast going to become redundant, aren’t they?
Managers become obsolete
@@melindagallegan5093 They always have been lol
Damn that’s tough. They got bootstraps right?
The only thing "squeezing our little souls" are corporate policies.
So happy these two got the opportunity to talk. They are clearly the most brilliant people they have ever met.
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So if I'm not sitting in traffic for part of my day I'm not really a human?
Good to know. 😂
How dare you protect your blood pressure by not commuting 😂😂
You're not a human if you are not wasting on public traffic space? Got it. 🤣
I sometimes drive around looking for traffic to sit in. And I just sob in traffic and tell the cars around me how grateful I am to be here. And I beg road workers to take their time because I dont want to lose this feeling.
@@Employment613 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Not only has the business I worked for saved a lot of money by introducing remote working, I have as well. Less money spent on fuel for the car, I don’t wear makeup on work days anymore, don’t have to be dressed up just for work, can cook easily at home when I’m hungry. So many benefits
Two words to explain this insanity: "Modern Slavery".
No. That's the U.S prison system
@@IncognitoSprax I think it's a lot of functions of the states today, sadly
@@dylanwaters3146 Slavery never ended, they just added more skin colors
every System needs slaves
I don’t like it but I wouldn’t equate it to slavery
'you don't know who's the boss' yet this guy calls himself 'CEO' at every given opportunity
Josh is spot on again! Working remotely allows me so much more time to spend with my family, kids, pets, improve my mental health, have more time to exercise and sleep and be productive. The toxicity of office politics is reduced as well.
Damn straight. With remote working, you have...
-No workplace bullying and harassment
-You can use your own bathroom, not the disgusting public restrooms
-Less getting sick from contagious diseases, including colds and flus
-No commute
-Can work in sweat pants and a t-shirt
-No chance of dying in a workplace mass shooting. Morbid, but a very real risk, especially in the USA.
In fact, I can't think of any downsides -- for the employee -- of remote working. For that matter, I can't think of any downsides for management, other than they can't micromanage you and create more needless stress in your life.
@@mushroomsteve u forgot breakfast. With remote work, you can take your time to make coffee or toast instead of rushing to the office. Thats a good start to begin the day.
@@williamwong9362 Yes, that is totally true, and makes things so much less stressful in the morning!
Not to mention ... better for the environment, less traffic on the road for everyone else, and less sexual harrassment for female employees.
@@williamwong9362 i hear you when i work remote i can have a late breakfast and instead skip lunch. and then im done an hour early.
"The office is the last institution of community" or whatever crazy sentence this guy spouted is where I really lost it. Bro is beyond a social reject. I thought I was kind of a loner, but I guess not. At least, I have my church, my shooting range and my boxing gym where I can socialize. And it's only the first things that came atop of my head because they are my favorite places. There are countless activities you can do if you want to make friends. I only got one friend from my last job, and the company has 100's of employees.
They talk about how coming into the office is "vital" to their "culture".
And then next week they will fire half the team and outsource them to India, forcing everyone to work over Zoom in the office.
... and they won't even see the irony.
I think it’s already happening.
Had a former workplace who said and did this, he even gassed on about “Company Loyalty”.
16:50 it makes a difference actually. Some people would rather not work in a highly competitive environment with untrustworthy people all around, preferring friendlier coworkers and calmer atmosphere. However, it should not be raised as an argument by the hirers, as it is not a quantifiable quality. Putting "good atmosphere" in a job offer is equivalent to naming being nice on your résumé as a skill.
"I'm the biggest joker in the office. All the people whose salaries I pay think I'm hilarious"
lmao
Exactly. Does she really not understand that people laugh at her dumb ass jokes because she’s the boss? Smh
in reality you're the biggest joke in the office 😂
Interesting 🤔 so if I really wanna get funny....I should be a janitor!
They’re laughing _AT_ her, not with her.
I'm a single mom and have been working from home since 2020. I absolutely love it! I go on a lunch walk with my son and mom to this really nice nature trail or public library to check out books or run errands... wouldn't trade the time I've been there for my son and family for anything in the world. I get more rest, wake up and don't have to make the stressful morning and evening commute with all the road rage drivers. I drink my coffee and eat my breakfast and I thank God for my day. I have my own bathroom and food and my own personal space! My son is also in virtual school which has allowed him extra attention and flexibility! I have worked in an office setting since I was 21 and was bullied, harassed, mocked, micro managed, gaslighted, sabotaged, gossiped about, retaliated all in the name of office politics. It was straight hell.
If that woman literally wants human interaction or to socialize at work then she shouldn't be working an office job. She should be working a field job like in the Medical Industry, a Hostess at a Gentleman's Club, or Coach.
Or just do a hobby… like normal people
yes make them go work in a service job, i heard macdonnals is hiring..... for fuk sake this out of touch rich boomers....
That’s exactly what Ive done the past two years; I need a break from having a job at home on a screen all day and so I get a summer job working for the US census or a theme park.
Hostess, I'm fantasizing.
@@Buenanueva1 theres better places to meet people and make friends..... some of us have lives and love ones outside the office....
Thank you for making this video and this critique!! Thank you! This was much needed and more people need to see this. I'm an MBA, an executive, I manage all kinds of people I'm all for as much freedom as possible. I'm in favor of working from home, and I'm trying to eliminate "work schedules" altogether. Some of my staff prefer to work nights because they're night owls and I let them. They listen to lofi beats and get their work done at 3 am, and they've never been more productive.
Nothing says "I have failed at relationships" like "You are only human if you work and you need to spend more time with random people instead of your family". I like how she states she hasn't failed at relationships, yet this sociopath of a person never really had any to begin with because she obviously doesn't understand why someone would actually have them.
Honestly, I watched some other parts of her video and it is one horror after another, complete disregard for how human beings function, coming from someone who is just barely human.
Oh yeah sociopath would make sense. Because she wouldn’t understand human connection at all. She thinks human connection is having a bunch of people who have to be nice to her, because she’s the boss. She doesn’t understand that people have actual real connections with other people that take time, and that time can be used from a commute. Plus, she doesn’t care.
Joshua is absolutely right - work is not where you should find a social life. But my father a military man, has his main social and friend circle were his fellow soldiers who he fought alongside. I suppose they were just 'your fake buddies at work'. Fair enough.
I’m 43 and the office is not a place i really want to stay more than what’s necessary. I have a good job but i still would rather be at home..
Love your videos.. i share your frustration for these brainless corporate leaders.. they just want to control people. Bringing people back to the office is just some weird self fulfilling power trip that justifies a CEO’s existence.. which is pathetic.
Those CEOs and self-made slaves are so sad that I feel no frustration... just pity for them.
Yeah I think these CEOs are having people come in to show adoration or elation, because they are the bigwig, THAT’S really what they are in for. Maybe the office is what makes THEM feel human. These dysfunctional freakin people. It’s proven then getting more time back in your day improves mental health. The only time having the office to go into being a matter of improving mental health, is when your work situation at home is untenable. Like maybe a bad relationship, or loud children never stop interrupting.
and of course CEOs think it's all sunshine and rainbows. Have you ever seen a CEO walk around an office? They're surrounded by an army of yes men and kiss asses. Some employees might ask to shake their hand or pose for a picture if it's a big company. Of course the office looks amazing if that's your experience. If every joke you tell is funny. If every anecdote you have is insightful. Life looks quite different for the guy typing on spreadsheets for 7 hours and who has some mixed vegetables waiting in the work fridge.
They want to make sure we aren't at home watching videos like this hahaha
they can't properly enforce "corporate culture" anymore, either
AMEN!! Too much weird shit goes on at the office today. A bunch of rude, gossipy people. I’ve WFH for over 20 years and I only want to socialize with WHO I CHOOSE TO!
I'm with you on this one, it is stupid. Ppl should have the option, there's ppl that prefer the office bc they feel more productive there or they don't have a quiet space at home to do their work. I do think that is nice from time to time to socialize with colleagues in person and go for beers or food after work but that is def not a reason to say everyone must go back to the office. About the government intervention, is freaking stupid how the hell do they want the UK government to force ppl to do their jobs at an office? Maybe they own office buildings that are not being rented and they are losing money. honestly they are crazy
I actually had more positive thoughts about work when working from home. I felt productive and was never tired. Whenever I went into work, I always felt tired and unmotivated
same here. I used to be absolutely exhausted by the time I came home from work. now I have the energy to do whatever the f I want to.
also no more monday blues :D
That's why they don't want anyone working from home. LoL they don't want us to have fulfilling lives.
I hate small talk also. Thanks for your channel!!
if you're asking me to come to the office tell it the way it is: you want me there so you can micromanage the crap out of me. Don't sugar-coat it, stop pretending that you care about my life, don't tell me it's good for me because I know better.
Some people prefer to be in the working company of others. Some don't. Giving their employees the option is what will make these CEOs human.
18:10: AND THERE IT IS. She said: "I need people around me. I need it." And later she says: "When you feel as confident as you do, you are able to give up that control." Which is so ironic that it is actually sad.
So...her company's telecommuting policy is dictated not on mission, or on the product or service. It is dictated by her undiagnosed mental health issues. Lovely.
Boy George Hahaaa These dinosaurs are panicking. (I’ll enjoy that mental image for a while now, thank you)
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
Great points. Mary Portas is indeed out of touch in her argument of getting people back to the office. She lives on a different planet in fact. Dictating what it means to be human? (what an ego) And defining being human it as going into the office? That's a very sad statement and say a lot about her. Sitting in her North London townhouse or vacation home in the Cotswalds calling the shots and being free to "be you" at work (because you're the boss).... must be nice to a one percenter CEO. Everyone doesn't need to go back to the office. Everyone is different- how hard is that for her to understand? "I know but I need it" Narcissist red flag :O
And she twists Jane Jacobs' "the eyes on the street" concept trying to prove her narrow privileged opinion. The office is not a neighborhood. I was a fan of Steven Bartlet until this interview and especially when he mentioned that employees shouldn't have an option of whether they go back to the office or not. His company can be run remotely since it deals with digital media. Oh Steven....
“I work to live not live to work” has been my motto since I was 18. Worked out well, 50+ year olds think I’m lazy for not wanting to work more than 10 hour days (hourly here)
Well, the "live to work" phase is typical of twenty-something, because they are eager to prove themselves worthy, was one of those; but once you see it does not make any difference at the end , the motto switch fast to "work to live" and stay there
Also because at the 50+ time (of course right before I entered the workforce) effort was somehow well rewarded, unlike now
I'm 51 and have been trying to tell the kids that since the late 90s.
The only thing "squeezing our little souls" are corporate policies.
I would kill to be able to wake up at 8 AM, feeling fully refreshed and ready to start the day, before working in the comfort and freedom of my own home where I can concentrate on my work with fewer distractions. Not to mention spending less money on gas, tolls, and vehicle maintenance, and not to mention feeling less stressed, less depressed, and less anxious. This lady is out of touch with reality.
Working from home this past year plus is the absolute best thing that has ever happened to me at work. After struggling going into work after my teenager died in 2013 and treated like I had to keep performing as I always had was excruciating! This is the first time in 8 years I’ve actually had a balanced life on my terms.
And I’m single with my own home. And I’m not disconnected from humans at all.... these people are pathetic!
I am sorry for your loss. And I am glad you are feeling better.
So sorry to read that Amy. Glad WFH is working for you and agreed, they are insane.
I’m sorry for your loss. Working from home has also allowed my life to slow down and get over the loss of a close family member to.
I am so so sorry for the loss of your daughter/ son. I am happy to hear you are in a better place
Going to a cage-office and working for a control freak narcissist CEO is not something that "makes us human" at all. But for sure helping and supporting the people that will defend our rights for freedom of choice is in my opinion something that makes us human. Empathy is what makes us human and not putting people in a cage-office and then as CEO enjoy how your employees are eating each other. This is so grouse to see how those managers are feeding with the sufferance of other people. This CEO from the video proved lacked of empathy and in my opinion this is the true definition of evil. All of us have a great responsibility to expose and criticize this attitude. Great job Joshua! I appreciate what you are doing.
Working from home, no need to commute, imagine the savings on fuel, repair and maintenance, dry cleaning, laundry, expensive coffee and lunches and 2 to 4 hours of free time instead of being stuck in traffic.
Fuck! Like I don't know how these idiots don't see that plus 1,000 other reasons
And all the money your company saves because of the they dont have to pay the bills for light and water so they save so much money because the offices are closed
Unfortunately, offices that try to force the idea of having a community, often start to enforce the requirements for “mandatory fun” events, when most employees would rather just get back to work so they can finish what they were doing and go home to enjoy their families or ACTUAL home-life communities. It’s great that companies and executive leadership want to try to keep their employees happy, but they also need to understand that an employee is NEVER going to care about a company as much as the executives who run it, and they shouldn’t be expected to. Most employees work to live, not live to work. And please remember, “mandatory fun” is never actually fun. It just shows how out of touch leadership usually is.
It really is sad that people's only social experience and friends are those that they work with. Nobody has hobbies or ventures out to connect with others that enjoy the same things as them
The problem is, the CEO can go and have hobbies and friendly meet ups, but in that context she won't be the CEO. The office is where peacocks go to roost. You remove that, and they need to find another way to strut.
1.) bosses def love the office so they can strut around like politicians.
2.) workers who cling around the office extra long are usually avoiding their spouse at home.
3.) workers organize through text how to sneak out for lunch so that an annoying co-worker doesn't come along. One poor guy had to share a cubicle office w him and needed out. Writing code doesn't require 80dB voice. I needed to edit video and hear. His voice overpowered pro DJ cans.
They're having a social crisis because they're learning the reality that most people don't mind working for compensation, but most don't want to go into the work because it is a terrible and toxic place of mind and power games. I just want to get compensated for my work and have my own life. It's like they're so clingy.
It's the hive mentality. They think we all have a work bee desire to hover around and at the beck and call of the "queen"/corporation. Instead of truthfully just trying to do our best to support ourselves and our families.
oh "the diary of a ceo". i really understood "the diarrhea of a ceo". that's some irony.
Lol I thought the same!
Same lmao
Had a crappy boss who wouldn’t let any employees work remotely (this was pre pandemic), despite some of us needing to commute one or two hours. He had this “We need to connect as a whole.” crap. He just wanted someone to yell at and micromanage.
When I requested to work from home (so I would only have to commute to my second job’s rehearsals and showtimes, I also work in showbiz), he refused. I got my things, packed them up, and quit without notice and without saying goodbye.
Lol @ the guy basically saying "the leader should be a dictator". Jocko Willink explained it well in his book, being a good leader is not barking orders. You need to take stock of what your people think, what the goal is, and formulate a plan based on that. Not just tell them "you have to do this, or else".
These people are just high school nerds that got bullied, and now want to exert their little bit of power over other people. No thanks, I'm happy freelancing from my apartment, and my clients seem to be happy, too.
I haven't read any of his books in a while. He's got a great perspective and input on leadership.
Hey, don't mess up with my secret dream of being the master even with no dom skills! -_-
no the nerd still get fricked they were and are the bullies most ceos come from wealth
Nah ' high school nerds 'end up doing smart roles that require talent. The talentless business students that spent all uni partying and travelling because they 'love meeting people's are the ones ending up in middle management.
I really really don't get these people. I've worked in an office for a year and a half, didn't get that close to my team.
I just joined a new company 3 months ago, haven't met anyone phisically and I feel so much closer to them then I feel to my old team.
Since the pandemic started I also got to know my neighbors better.
I only see positives since I started working from home.
My mental health is so much better too, I was always depressed because I lost 4 hours or more of my day just comuting to work.
Here’s a theory for consideration: maybe the people desperate to return to the office are the less-than-productive people? You know: the meeting jockeys, the marketing folks…. The people who wouldn’t be missed if they were abducted by aliens.
Edit: the comments on the video Josh is viewing are hilarious.
Bloat employees that needed to be axed anyway but the CEO doesn't do anything because they're out of touch too. WFH cut out the unnecessary bloat jobs, employees, and activities so they can't control actually productive workers who do their jobs well and bloat employees kick up a fuss about it.
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
You're a genius. Thanks for cutting through all of the BS.
Fucking hell. I was born a few thousand years too early. This shit's nuts.
I think it'll only get worse from here on out fam
Nice video man. I used to commute 2 hours to work 2 hours home and it absolutely fucked up my mental health.I still working an office but my commute is a helible lot shorter. And I can work home certain days of the week. And I've noticed that I am absolutely not waking up anxious or stressed out on Monday morning's anymore. I don't feel like I'm wasting my time sitting in traffic or at an office job that I hate.Think about how many hours we waste in traffic of our lives and what could we do with that time if we got it back.I think about this stuff regularly to the point where I've almost made my own Podcast about it.. Love the video man keep it up
When I think of community, I think of my family, my friends, people I take fitness classes with, the people at my Quaker meeting. NOT work. Lord have mercy these people need personal lives
This woman has made her job HER LIFE. Others use their job's income to finance their lives. These "CEO's" can't expect others to feel the same way about the companies they work for as they do.
I get to avoid walking half a mile to the office in this heat wave after parallel parking in some BS spot and arriving to my cubical all sweaty thanks to remote work, nasty Keurig can't beat that
Keurig + alexa think about it.
I was down every day when I was working. No matter if in the office or not.
After I quit I feel way better.
Work was not good for my mental health.
Lost touch o'clock. 2 CEOs talking about workers doing work and what's best for them. You can't get a better session for confirmation bias than this.
All things going on in the world, all the other issues that we need to go to the top about, going to the top about working in the office isn’t one of them!
It really is amazing to me how this dude doing the interview associates his whole sense of community around being in the office. As if you can't find a sense of community and togetherness ANYWHERE ELSE but in an office, while you're working. That right there is someone that defines their entire self-worth by their job.
It's almost like no one wants to interact with him outside of the office (gee, I wonder why) but IN the office these poor shmucks are forced to do it (or get fired for any or no reason)! Weird, isn't it?
Spending time with people you're paid to have inhuman interactions with is what makes you "human" and the only thing that builds "community"? What sort of deranged antisocial drivel are these two peddling?
Narcissists, sociopath and control freaks
The commute my father made every day of his working life to support us was *a sacrifice* for us to have the comforts of suburban living with the income of city work. The hell did I just hear?
As if it wouldn’t have been better to actually have dad at home with his family 🤷🏻♀️
I'd commute every day to NOT live in a suburban neighborhood.
It's the most soulless, humanity-destroying concept I've ever seen. Fuck it, give me an apartment on top of the walled city over suburbia. I didn't understand the phrase "white people have no culture" until I saw this garbage. It ACTUALLY has no culture. I wasn't aware it was possible for so many humans to live somewhere and have no culture.
I'm not surprised the suicide rate there is so high. The fact that you can brainwash people to DESIRE this is proof that many people have been completely alienated from what makes us human.
@@Nerobyrne ah. I was wondering when the "THE SUBURBS SUCK BUT I'VE NEVER LIVED THERE LOL I'M EDGY" response would show up. What is wrong with you that you are so compelled to repeat such nonsense? What culture are YOU actively creating that you can proclaim others lack?
@@mgancarzjr Culture naturally develops where humans congregate.
Which is why I wonder what happened to Americans that they think this kind of lifestyle is desirable.
Can you describe what's good about it?
The fact that there's nothing for literally miles?
The fact that you have to drive several hours for anything remotely worth your time?
The fact that you paid large sums of money or your parents worked themselves to death for something most other people would pay money NOT to experience?
What good thing are you experiencing in this dirth of humanity that you call a neighborhood?
PS: I wasn't aware that there were so many other people who felt that way, but it makes sense. I reached this conclusion on my own when I looked up "Suburban neighborhood" after hearing people talk about it, and couldn't believe people PAY MONEY to live in what are essentially human breeding farms.
If aliens invented a way to farm humans, that's what I'd imagine they would create.
@@Nerobyrne I live in the burbs and keep an office on one of the most urban downtown blocks in my state (I'm self-employed so it's a choice). There is 100x more life and community right now in my suburban neighborhood than there is downtown. There's actually more cultural diversity. Especially among families. Life is where the people are. I love it downtown. I like to walk from place to place during the day. But it's not "better" than the burbs. Just different.
Growing up, when my dad got sick he would take a sick day. That is he would stay home and go back to work when he was better in a day or two.
Where I work, if someone gets sick, the expectatiom is that you work from home. And I don't mean a soft expectation I mean a hard expectation as in if you say, "I'm not feeling well I need to go home and resr" and the COO will ask "ok, are you going to work from home?"
That’s insane.
"Getting up at 8am and go straight on zoom", yeah I don't have to take an hour or two out of my day just to sit in traffic, it's great. I save time and money. I also listen to my music and podcasts when I'm working.
they don't let you do that while at the office?
I never worked an office job
And you don’t have to wear pants while i listen to my podcast and deal with those goofy ass meetings. Lol
@AmandaHugNKiss I LOVE your pfp 😍💜😂
I agree with everything she said. I have been working from home for 10 years, and it has negatively impacted my well-being and my family, I'm so lost without even realizing it. When I try to recall those past years, everything feels like a blur. That's why I'm returning to an office-based job, I miss working with people and I want to feel normal again. This comes from someone who doesn't enjoy meeting people or making small talk.
I work in social services; this past year and three months we have been working from home. It has given so many of the workers at our company additional time they need to recover from an already stressful job. Working from home helps prevent burnout and in many ways is just logical. We need to attend client visits in-person due to having to evaluate their living conditions and environment but the rest of the job can be done remotely (about 90%). I think the major companies over time will go to remote work but it will take time as humans hate change and they late losing control.
With all these health measures, doing remote work is the best option. But then I wonder, what will happen when all these remote workers create their own remote communities and go at it alone? Looks like these companies will not longer have any more slaves to exploit.
I went to that video to give a thumbs down and the like/dislike counter has been removed and all the comments are people saying she's crazy
Sounds like diarrhea of a CEO.
Do we really have to go to the office to socialize?
So sad 😞
She said SHE needs it. Her workers dont
Keep fighting the good fight on CEO’s against flexible work environment.
Edit*
I love how things people think* we should live, breathe, socialize only at work. I’m at work for a paycheck so I can have money to do my cosplays. 80% of people at work are NOT into what I like.
I love you
This woman is completely off the rocker, lol. Where do you find these insanos, man :D.
There comes a point, when this ceases to be innocent anecdote worthy of jest, and becomes insidious deceit and treachery deserving of disgust and contempt. And we are well past the latter. These people are not gods, masters, or (our) parents. They're, far too often, not even objectively "good" people. And they clearly need to be reacquainted with this reality.
joshua, i would love to get your opinion and take on why, honestly, these people think this way.. why *exactly* do managers and companies push for in-office environment for work? what is the real reason why they are so adamant? especially for companies that not only dont *need* to, but have proven for 1.5 years that they dont need to.. i feel like it cant be because of costs, wouldn't they be saving 10-15% of their money if they dont need to pay for rent? even further, might be a stretch but one could argue that employees at home can be even healthier with more sleep and a better nutrition plan, decreasing the amount of medical problems that ultimately come back to the employer that needs to pay for their employees' share of insurance.. also saving on other benefits like pretax programs for transportation costs of employees.. can you make a video about this?
Micro management and real estate value
This podcast would have been more interesting if they brought in their commercial real estate portfolios and made comparisons of how large their HR departments in those buildings are...
Next time folks
I do agree that I like small talk…I know the guys at the gas station and the local restaurant where I grab lunch very well.
Sarah’s daughter just graduated and Luke just got back into world of Warcraft.
Kaylee who works at the coffee shop also coaches summer gymnastics classes.
Small talk is just that easy.
The office also isn’t community connection. Community is community, the office is only a portion of it.
What I see happening is a series of breakdowns of people discovering that they don’t have the robust social lives they thought they did.
They’re used to having people around them that HAD to be there instead of having people around them they enjoy.
There is such an interesting conversation to be had around the loss a sense of community and what we can do about urban planning to reclaim that. But why does your work have to be your community? I ride my bike to the sandwich shop at lunch time, I lift weights in my basement with my neighbor, why do I have to do that stuff with co-workers? I'm in the camp of hybrid WFH being preferred but if office work is required in the fall when they start letting employees in, I'm looking for a new job.
@@Tac_3D Mega cities are a natural consequence of job opportunities tendency to centralize, ie one industry is in town, talent moves to town to get a job, competitors move to town because talent is there, auxiliary industries move to town for support, service industry grows because of all these people in town etc so we can't just stop. If its going to happen, we need to prepare our cities in a way that doesn't isolate people. I'm a big fan of channels like 'Not Just Bikes' and think walkability and lowering required car use is the key. Seems like the isolation is worst in American suburban towns, start your car in you garage, go to work alone in your car, come back and park in your garage. Never really meet your neighbors that way.
@@Tac_3D there is no backroom of elite extroverts creating cities, cities have existed forever, current density is a function of technology. Low density housing with modern amenities is MUCH worse for the environment per capita because of how far you have to run out infrastructure like sewage, roads etc. Suburbs end up being a tax leach on cities. If you wanna live out in the suburbs, go for it but it should be much more expensive than it is now and I hope you're prepared to pay for it. If you can hop on board, we can make our cities quiter and more private as well.
These last 15 months have shown just how toxic the office environment is.
There's no reasoning with these people. The movie Office Space is a documentary, not a comedy.
Josh this is gold man i hate how these bloody boomers think it's actually better to go to the office. What the hell.
Not all boomer feel that way, just the jerks.
@@SM-wc7vl I couldn't agree more with your statement