You NEED these RUMBLE MOTORS for your SIM RACING Pedals!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- My review and install guide of the Pedal Rumble Motor Kit from Sim3DRacing. I'll detail how they work and perform while installed on my Heusinkveld Sprint Pedal set.
00:00 Intro
01:29 Purchasing
01:56 Unboxing
03:41 Installation
04:48 Software Setup
05:42 Performance
07:50 Final Thoughts
09:05 Outro
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Driving GT3 and GT4 exclusively in ACC, being able to modulate the ABS engagement is an absolute GAME-CHANGER!! Already shaved over a second on most of my lap times. Get these...NOW!!!
This is really funny! Because I'm building these rumble sets myself! And my first design was "wrong" in the same way as these!! :-) You have to mount/build these motor mounts the way that the actual motor is vertically situated, that way you will have more precise vibration in lower RPMs because you don't have to take into consideration the weight of offset ballast, if you mout motor horizontally (like in this video) the weight itself will put "force" against motor and it will be harder to start spinning. V3 pedals had their motors mounted properly and in the right direction! ;-)
How do you not have more views with these production values?
Thanks that’s a really nice compliment! I’m still new in the game but having fun making videos, thanks for watching
@@simracingden It takes time but if you continue making videos like this your channel will do really well.
@@simracingden anything with a good mic and no generic dubstep intro music is a like from me.
Seriously. A+ content
Parts of the script is basically identical to this video from two years ago.
th-cam.com/video/d3zB0yqDdI0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cyXxtuwqtsgLW58C
Still, decent video.
I have these and ive set them to activate when ABS and TC kick in on GT3 cars. They are very helpful. Kit is well made.
Exactly!!
I have this for my T-LCM and play ACC. I loved driving the Porsches, but after update 1.8 they became undriveable to me. The back end will step out and I could never know when or why.
I got the rumble kit, and gave the Porsches a try again. That’s when I realised from the feedback it was my throttle input. And it taught me to be more smooth on acceleration, or modulate the amount of throttle over long high speed corners.
The sensation of knowing your rear is just about to step out, and you immediately respond by lifting the throttle a tiny bit and straighten the steering input slightly to catch the car. It’s awesome.
Lift-off oversteer. Porsches are especially prone due to the rear engine, RWD configuration.
This is great for getting the feel of wheel lockups and when the clutch pedal bites, this is the next step for sim racing
Definitely!
Been running these for over a year now with his wind sim kit as well and have had no issues and there both things I can't race without.
Hoping to test a wind kit soon
Interesting, I had Heusinkveld sprints, moved to SRP pedals now and waiting for SRP to come up with their own feedback system which I believe they are working on now.
Glad to know there are a lot of Canadian sim racers. I'm from Toronto ON and been sim racing for over 8 years but I've been a fan of motorsports since I was 4 :)
Enjoy your videos. Ive been waiting for my set for months because of the supply issues the world is going thru. Finally my set is on the way
Thanks for watching! It's worth the wait!, let me know your thoughts once you receive your kit.
I should have mine for the TLCM pedals this weekend fingers crossed.
@@stephenarmstrong5263 🤞
I have the simagic p2000 pedals, 3 pedal set. dont use clutch so i ordered the 2 pedal kit 5 months ago. as i said, parts supply issues caused problems with lead times. got the kit and it had an extra motor included for some reason. only problem, it didnt include the wire to connect it to the control box. So i found an old laptop charger cord and the end worked to plug this 3rd motor into the box, with a bit of cutting and soldering, i now have this 3rd motor bolted to the bottom of my seat. :) To be 100% honest, this under seat motor just connects everything together. granted i havent had enough time to get settings all perfect, but i would have to recommend getting an extra motor or adding a seat motor kit with the pedal kit. 1000000000% worth the extra. Just takes the kit over the top !!!!
Great review! Thanks, and good luck with the channel.
Thanks!
Absolutely amazing!!!, Thanks👍
Glad you liked it!
Another well presented video man! A happy subscriber 👍
Thank you! And thanks for the sub!
Have this for my TLCM pedals and they are absolutely fantastic! However the wait time is currently 4-5 months after ordering due to the chip shortage
That sounds ridiculous. Search the forums man you can easily do this yourself for less than 50$ with some creativity.
I have SIM3D also and it's a game changer tbh
Nice also have sprints. Gamer plus at rear. Dayton BST-1 under pedal tray at front. And a diy shaker on my brake. Using the nobsound mini amp for front shakers. Simhub is just amazing.
Sounds great!
The nobsound doesn’t provide enough power for the BST-1. This can cause clipping and believe it or not, damage tothe transducer. Upgrade to a real 100W amp and you’ll be happy, that is if the plastic that holds the mass in the transducer hasn’t already broken.
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad oh first I’ve heard thanks! Do you have a recommendation of an amp that would drive the two daytons I have up front now? I now have one on each corner up front.
great Video.,
very informative.,
What triple monitors are those ?
Thank you.
I found them for my Heusikenveld Ultimates on the manufactor homeage :). I looked at the wrong site before. I ordered them yesterday. Now I need a power connection for Germany.
Right on
There are small products called exciters (25-30$ each) that can take care of these effects without needing to mount a big shaker near the pedals. Great stuff nonetheless, thanks for the video!
Thanks for the info!
Exellent video and review👍😊
Thanks for watching!
Excellent review. Liked and subbed 👍
Thank you!
Loved the video and the pic of the wired rig hahahaha bro I laughed so hard
Just got into sim racing, found a good deal on a pair of Fanatec CSL Elite and what definitely misses the mark the most is the clutch because you can't feel the bite point at all which is really evident in a real car, I immediatly thought that a small vibration could provide a more realistic feedback in that aspect.
That's not a bad idea It might help but you'll need to confirm whether in simhub this can be configured based on the sim data would be curious to know if it's possible or not.
@@simracingden as I said I'm really new to sim racing (so far racked up 80 hrs of Assetto Corsa with a gamepad, many of them spent trying to achieve photorealistic screenshots instead of driving :D) so I have no idea, however a quick search and I found this, seems doable to me th-cam.com/video/_qS9QqncHTs/w-d-xo.html
Really great, but as this is not possible on Ps5, I am happy with my Fanatec V3 for now. Really like the rumble motors, as I do feel them good with socks on
The Fanatec V3 is a fantastic set for this reason.
Good video I might try them. As a fellow Canadian welcome to the sim racing obsession. What part of Canada are you based might catch you online.
Thanks! 🇨🇦🙌🏻Yes worth getting for sure let me know if you get them and what you think. I’m from Toronto area how about you?
@@simracingden I'm in the whitby area
Hey so I currently have the V3's and am looking to upgrade to better pedals. How would you say those rumble motors compare to these? Are they substantially stronger, even through shoes?
I found these much stronger then the fanatec rumble motors and definitely feel it through shoes.
Hey Mike, thanks for this review, one more sub! I just have a question I couldnt see anyone speaking about. How loud do you find this rumbles? I mean with headphones probably doesnt botter you, but if theres more people around could this be a problem, or can it be not as loud of you reduce its strenght on simhub? Cheers
They do produce a bit of noise. It's noticeable for sure, not as much with headphones, but to those close by or around you, you will for sure hear it. It didn't matter too much, regardless of strength; it's just the noise they make when spinning. I hope this helps.
Hello there! do you still run this settings?
At the moment I’m not using these as I switched pedals and haven’t mounted the rumble motors yet but plan too.
I bought 3 motors (clutch ;) ) -since then, I wouldn't or couldn't drive without anymore..... simple comparison: if I'd remove your ffb from your wheel, would you enjoy it? Same here... new vibes into your pedals! I highly recommend it :)
I've got simhub, motors with an arduino and motor shield (same as this kit, but cheaper to build at home) I have them on brake and acc, and love em. I've thought about putting one on the clutch pedal, but can't think what to map it with in simhub..I'd like to simulate the bite point on the clutch. What features are you mapping to your clutch pedal?
@@paulbuswell6566 Hi Paul... to be honest, I didn't test it yet, neither got any use of, as so far I barely use that pedal ^^ And the few times I drive the F40 with the shifter, I do not pay attention on the clutch rumble... I'd have to take some time and check out that point :) Sorry ;)
Hi! Thx for the video!! Csn you tell me, how loud these things are? Is it something for the bedroom 🤔?
Thx!!
They get kind of loud sometimes maybe not best near someone sleeping.
@@simracingden ahh…ok. Mhh…then I must about that…shit 🤔☹️
Hi there.
I just saw this review for the first time.
Well done!
I am looking to order these, but I was not able to find them on Etsy site.
Do you know if the seller is still making them?
Thank you
Hey, thanks, he has his own website now here is the link -www.sim-3d.co.uk/product/pedal-rumble-motor-kit/6 Thanks for pointing this out I didn't realize they were no longer on Etsy so I'm updating the link now in the description
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Hi man! great video and idea! does it work on moza pedals? do you ship to Brazil?
Hi! Thanks for watching, I don’t see the Moza pedals listed as an option but it would best to contact the seller directly on Etsy to inquire about this. www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1060376767/
Try one small 15-25watt transducer attached to the base of the pedals. It would do the same without the latency.
This is simply not true. Transducers depend on the deflection of the item they’re mounted to, they have to shake them, hence the term “bass shaker”. Most pedal base plates are the MOST SOLID part of the sim rig. Additionally, if the pedals aren’t shaking then the bass shaker is, which is TERRIBLE for it and creates awful resonance and clipping.
The mass on the end of these rumble motors is 5x heavier than that in a 50W transducer and it’s DIRECTLY attached to the pedal, not the pedal base plate. This is significantly more effective.
How do I know? Well I’ve spent around 40 hours trying different transducers from 15W to 100W, amps, pedal mounting plates, flexible transducer mounts, oscillation isolators, etc and NOTHING came close to cheap rumble motors mounted to the pedals directly.
R.I.P @4:23 😅
The bane of our exis--taunce! "*said in French accent*"
Great video. It's been over 3 months now. Are they used regularly? How are they holding up?
Have used them regularly Working great same as day one no issues
Do you have demo for how loud it is? What would be the difference with using a puck instead of the rumble motor?
I will make a video short of the sound; it does produce some noise.
How did you setup your pedal motor kit to just be front and the buttkicker in the rear? Is that all through simhub? I don't see any setting to choose front/rear in the buttkicker app.
You can configure the output in the sim hub under the channel outputs menu. For example, you can select which effects and device handles front or rear.
do you think they'll be adding one for the logitech load cell
Not sure would suggest reaching out to the seller maybe they can help
These do look cool, but would they work, using SIM HUB and a NLR HF8? By that I mean, can SIM HUB output into two devices at the same time?
Yes this is absolutely possible.
What are those stripes to seamlessly connect your monitors?
Its the ASUS ROG Bezel Free Kit check out my review here - th-cam.com/video/MCib9bpdqJg/w-d-xo.html
I have the Fanatec CSL Elite V2 Pedals, would you recommend?
I would recommend these for any supported pedals
Hi! What's inside the control box? I'm curious if it is an arduino. Thanks!
It is indeed an Arduino.
@@DarkPand0r Thank you
Yes, it is
Simply disassemble an old massage mat, remove the vibration motors and screw them to the pedals.
Good, cheap and works great. When I see what all that stuff for sim racing costs, it's cheeky. With a little imagination, you can achieve exactly the same result for a fraction of the cost.
If you have the time and know how a DIY is also always a great option!
I did the exact same thing back in 2011, cost me less than $50 and it worked really well. I used one of the sound activated massage mats, so I was able to run an audio splitter, ran that through an EQ to isolate the brake sounds, then the pedals would vibrate when the brakes locked up or there was tyre squeal etc. My build guide is probably floating around on the iRacing forums still. It worked well but I didn't like it, it felt like a gimmick and just didn't feel realistic at all. I later upgraded to a hydraulic brake pedal and removed the shakers and found this was a more realistic feeling pedal that made consistent braking easier.
@@simracingden exactly, i'm no good at the technical stuff, can't wait for mine too arrive
Have them on my Meca Cup 1's.....i wouldn't be without them..fantastic it of kit.
Nice! How do you like meca cup pedals?
@@simracingden Hi....I can't fault them to be honest...The build quality is fantastic...I've had them approx 18 months with no issues....I'm a happy camper, I'd have no problem recommending them to anyone thinking of upgrading.
if you have amotion system it work this pedals systems ?
It shouldn’t be an issue as it has nothing to do with a motion system
Wouldn't transducers or something ELSE mounted to the brake pedals make more sense than rumble motors? I would think transducers not simply being on or off would give you more flexibility. I've seen videos of folks doing that as a DIY before.
Yes thats another great option but they can be harder to mount maybe or add weight, but not sure never tried it myself.
lol some CSLs with a load cell and these mods are better than expensive pedals with no mods.
If you have a seat with movement, it is not necessary. No fancy pedals needed either. If you have movement, the feeling of braking is given by the movement of the seat.
6 axis seat platforms cost over 5k dollars though. even with a motion platform youd still want load cell or even hydraulic load cell brake pedal lol
@@SSmallwoodI only have 2dof built by me and that is enough. I already have the feeling of how the car is braking. The difference between using the move and not using it is 90% of the simulation. Obviously a 6dof will be much better.
Only negative of the kit is the sound the kit emits is asburd.
How was the noise of this kit compared to a Buttkicker?
It’s not very noticeable definitely quieter that the buttkicker will depend on your settings obviously but if you got headphones or speakers loud won’t hear it but someone in another room sleeping might be bothered a bit
Unfortunately, they do not fulfill their orders! I waited 14 weeks for my first order after sending many emails. On my second order, I gave up after 11 weeks! On their website it says that the waiting time is 6-8 weeks, which is not true (they mislead the consumer - all the time some excuses) now I'm waiting for a refund, we'll see how long it will take.
Any updates on how this was resolved?
simagic p1000 seem to have better solution as an add on... if only someone made a mod for them to be used on more pedals.
That would be great. I'm sure someone is going to come up with a solution.
@@simracingden was talking to race beyond matter he tested it said it works with p2000 box and suggested to simracing machines might make an adapter but will see.
Boo, no shipping to Canada :( Sad Panda
There is shipping to Canada I’m in Canada and got it
There it goes again, SimHub. Can’t use it with my motion simulator, it interferes with SimTools, no matter what port forwarding I do. UGHHH.
6:30 “ABS is not as quick as braking well without ABS”
This is completely false. It was once true for road cars, but it hasn’t been true for a long time. ABS isn’t outlawed in so many racing series because it’s slower…
ABS is 'outlawed' because of expense and complexity. While ABS can provide better emergency stopping for most road drivers, it will not outperform manual brake modulation for an even remotely serious driver who's trying to achieve a quicker lap time
@@RobinHood-yk8og like I said…completely false. I have been racing and instructing for over a decade and have HEARD this a thousand times, all from amateurs or spectators, NEVER from fellow instructors or championship winning drivers.
ABS is a skill equalizer in class and formula racing. Skill equalizers are bad for the sport and bad for spectatorship. When the FIA banned ABS in F1 they specifically stated it was due to the advantage, and you can’t convince anyone that ABS is too expensive or complex for F1…
Sold out. 😒
Which pedals do you need them for?
I was really disappointed when I’ve tried sim racing for the first time and discovered that there is 0 feedback on pedals, only the wheel has any. Hopefully things like this will become much more commonplace, clutch and break are giant immersion breakers when they don’t provide you with feedback
I agree these will help, or the Simagic Haptic Pedal Reactors, which I've been trying on my Heusinkveld Ultimate+ Pedals lately.
verry nice destruction of the name heusinkveld lol
If your referring to my pronunciation my apologies, I’ll have to practice for the next one ☺️
ffs stop talking for a sec and let us hear the things and what kind of vibration/noise they produce....
Hands up everyone who has driven a race car where the pedals vibrate ?
Yeah this is a pointless piece of hardware. If you think you can replicate the pedal feel of a lockup or wheel spin by using a small motor to vibrate the pedal i'm guessing you have never actually locked up the brakes in a real car.
Brake pedal shudder etc can't be replicated with this type of device.
If it makes your sim racing feel more immersive then maybe its a good thing, but by no means confuse immersion with realism, this may be one of the dumbest pieces of sim hardware I have seen so far.
Rumble motors are useless. Main SIM iRacing does not send correct data to set this to activate when let say wheels are spinning. And if you need this to know when abs is kicking in, then you need more practice.