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- This is how I make my custom cosplay visors! Any questions? Leave a comment!
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PETG can produce fumes that are harmful when it's heated to a high temperature. That being said, if you're vacuum forming only occasionally, and not going to an excessive high temperature, the fumes are minimal. When I vacuum form, I cannot smell fumes from the plastic. From what I understand, the fumes are minimal enough to not be hazardous to your health. I have confidence that this is a safe way to do occasional vacuum forming, as many members on the RPF report using this method for years.
I have heard people have success using large space heaters mounted on their side, or making a makeshift oven enclosure with heaters or heat guns to try to evenly heat the plastic. In my opinion, the immediate fire risk space heaters with bypassed safety features and makeshift ovens provide is much greater than the potential health risk of fumes being trapped in the oven.
Ideally, for regularly vacuum forming, a separate oven dedicated for vacuum forming would be used. In my case, the risk is so minimal that it does not justify the cost of a second oven.
Buy 0.03” PETG ($15.62 at recording date): www.ebay.ca/itm/281301697446
Buy iDye Poly ($5.59 at recording date): www.joann.com/jacquard-idye-n...
iDye Poly on ebay: www.ebay.ca/itm/255431988242
Buy Spray Chrome ($ 15.07 at recording date): www.ebay.ca/itm/362389544041?...
Helmet & Visor I made: www.thingiverse.com/thing:496...
#cosplay #diy
This is one of the best tutorials for vac forming I've seen on TH-cam. You should be very proud of what you've taught us here mate.
Thank you!
Such a detailed video. A shame it hasn’t gotten as much attention as it deserves.
Shows you can make a quality informative educational video with low quality video gear.
There may be better quality videos on youtube covering the same topic. But they are not any better in the way of information. Great job!
this is the most satisfying thing
THANKYOU SO MUCH, the one thing that was holding me back from making a halo helmet was the visor, I didn’t have a vaccum form and this is such a great method
Dude, this is the best tutorial, thank you so much
Amazing video. Many thanks for putting in the time to put this together.
Thank you for the support!
Some nice tips. And a good tutorial. Thank you!
Thanks for the tips, currently 3d printing my ODST cosplay and was wondering what to do for the visor
Great video!!! I just built a vacuum box tonight and an attachment for my vacuum to plug into it is on the printer right now. Just gonna seal it up tomorrow and use it for the eye lenses on my darth Vader helmet 😎
You sir are the greatest I plan on making full suits of spartan armor and the visor was my biggest concern thank you!
Thanks for making this I've been wanting to make a visor for my master chief helmet and I needed to know how. Subbed!
Glad I could help! Thanks for the sub!
your helmets look so nice. I just finished making the popular halo helmet on thingiverse and am looking to make a cheap/easy visor. I like the method you've chose to mold them though, very neat.
Bro! Thank you so much! Im going to be making my Halloween costume this year (master chief) and i have started recently, this visor tutorial is literally one of the most helpful things ive found! Plus i have something to show my friends when they come over, hehe, thanks!
Awesome vid bro super satisfying
This is a godsend. THANK YOU!
Man this is awesome I'm going to use this to make my ODST visor
Amazing video!!🔥🔥🔥 i gotta make my own now 🔥🔥🔥
You're a legend. Great tutorial
Amazing work sir!
This tutorial is bloody amazing! Love your work! But about the plastic.
could you tell me how clever you are! you remind me of my old creative self.♡
great video!
Omg you genius.
👌👍
muuuuuuuuuy buen tutorial!!!!,,,felicitaciones!!!
"I'm about to add too much" lol hilarious
Just bought a 3d printer and always wanted to do a helmet when the time comes and I actually make one I'm definitely coming back around
How long did you let this cook? I've made a ton of stuff over the years, but you've inspired me to get into more difficult designs and start vac forming visors for the helmets I sell.
Nicely done, I do have a question about your mold. Did u print it out using pla? Thanks
Yes it’s PLA
love the video! what’s the measurements for the box? and the wooden frame?
The frame holds a piece of plastic 12" by 12". The box is 11.5" by 11.5" The depth doesn't matter too much but I think mine is 4". It's made out of standard 2x2's and 1/2-inch plywood.
This is great! Will acrylic plastic sheets work?
Maybe??? I haven't tried acrylic. If you try let me know how it goes!
2:30 It's called a buck.
14:32 Here's the thing when it comes to that dye. You can use acetone to clean that up. At least on surfaces.
buck, noted. Thanks :)
What is acetone? What do you mean about cleaning it up?
Is there anyway to get the moulds for the helmets, especially the normal master chief helmet? BTW, loved the vid and am keen to try this!!
What do you mean by "get the molds"? Are you interested in getting a resin-cast helmet, or the mold to make a resin-cast helmet? Or do you mean the mold to form the visor to?
It’s a pain but I use airsoft grade visors since I rock an ODST helmet and set up when I play against my friends. Your visors look awesome!
Do you make them? If so what plastic is it?
@@rainydaytoast1490 PLA and sometimes cheaper 3D printing filaments, my friend lets me use her 3D printer to make them. As long as I pay for the file for the printer I can use it. It can take a few days to print just one helmet but it’s easier to print it in a few parts. To make it airsoft grade you have to add fiberglass and the visor needs to be plexiglass and have a few layers thick to make sure things don’t penetrate and hit you in the eye. I put a metal airsoft mesh lens in the inside.
Very nice well done. How you reach the gold color for the visor? With yellow and chrome finish?
I dye the visor orange, then spray with regular chrome
Anyone know how to get a reflective visor like jazz ware? Perhaps a tint wrap for cars?
So just a clarification, the part you're referring to as the mold is called the buck in vacuum forming.
Yes
I have almost exactly the same setup for my vacuum forming. :D One thing I would recommend is adding a perimeter of cheapest, tall door seal around the top of the table of your vacuum form. It will give you much more even contact and result in more consistent pulls. On the PETG - initially I tried using normal PET but with this setup it was almost impossible to prevent it from crystalizing in the oven. It woud crystallize, loose the transparency and become too brittle and stiff for vacuum forming. PETG doesn't have this issue. As for dying I found that just throwing them into the iDye Poly solution doesn't work for me since wherever the visor would contact the edges or the bottom of the bucket it would leave noticeable marks. That's why I tend to suspend them in the middle of the container on metal wires. As for aibrushing the mirror layer - How do you avoid static electricity causing the paint to form "patches" on the visor? In my case PETG always gets a static charge which deflects the paint droplets and gives me a slightly inconsitent finish. :/
Wow great feedback! As for the door seal, I know exactly the thing you're talking about. But I haven't found that a raised foam ridge would help get a better seal. In my experience the suction is pretty good without, but if I run into issues in the future I'll keep this solution in my head.
Good to know that PET will crystalize while PETG doesn't.
About the dye- in the bucket I do my best to make sure that the visors do not touch each other not rest face down on the bottom of the bucket. Typically I find they like to sit on an edge that will be hidden behind the visor so uneven dying hasn't been much of an issue. This may also be the case because I used a lot of dye for a short amount of time, instead of one pack of dye for an hour or so. Either way, suspending them with wires is a good idea and I'll likely do that in the future to be safe.
I haven't had any issues with static causing an uneven airbrush coating, however, I have had airbrush issues in the past. If you're getting an uneven coating or paint is splattering, the airbrush needle may be bent, or there may be moisture in the compressor.
Awesome work! I’ll be trying this method on my next project.
I do have a safety question. When your heating up the PETG sheets, does it produce any fumes that may linger inside the oven? I know from 3D printing that the usual printing temperature for PETG is about 220c (at least from my experience) and at that temperature, PETG does release a minimal amount of volatile organic compounds, but from the video it’s only heated to about 150c so I’m wondering if the plastic deformation is enough where the PETG releases any at that temperature.
In the interest of protecting the oven, is it possible to do the heating up portion with a high power heat gun over the plastic or do you think it will be too inconsistent?
Great question! PETG can produce fumes that are harmful when it's heated to a high temperature. That being said, if you're vacuum forming only occasionally, and not going to an excessive high temperature, the fumes are minimal. When I vacuum form, I cannot smell fumes from the plastic. If you do start to smell fumes, allow the oven and house to air out after you vacuum form. Either way, the fumes are minimal enough to not be hazardous to your health. I have confidence that this is a safe way to do occasional vacuum forming, as many members on the RPF report using this method for years.
As for the heat gun, I can assure you that it will be too inconsistent. I know a few people who tried on the 405th, but it just doesn't heat the plastic evenly enough. I have heard people have success using large space heaters mounted on their side, or making a makeshift oven enclosure with heaters or heat guns to try to evenly heat the plastic. In my opinion, the immediate fire risk space heaters with bypassed safety features and makeshift ovens provide is much greater than the potential risk of fumes being trapped in the oven.
Ideally, for regularly vacuum forming, a separate oven dedicated for vacuum forming would be used.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you have questions :)
@@N8TEBB hi! Sorry, I forgot to reply, and didn’t actually expect one so quickly! Thank you!
This is a very helpful answer. And you’re right, the fire risk posed by making your own enclosure is far higher than just using an actual oven. Do you happen to have a tutorial on how to make your “vacuum forming table”?
Where do I get the petg sheets? Do I get it at like my local Home Depot/Lowes?
I want to make the head for the Bomb Devil from CSM and wanna make the front something I can see through without resorting to making holes
Do you know if we can mix certain dyes from iDye Poly to make certain colors? For example a bit of blue and silver to make a silver-blue visor for an ODST?
Never tried it! Might be worth doing some experiments...
@@N8TEBB for sure, I might try it then and record what happens 😂
Any ideas on how to get the odst shape correctly?
What do you do with the dyed water? Is it safe to just dump out or is the a process you have to do to safely dispose it?
I just pour it on the lawn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@N8TEBB Thanks, just wanted to make sure before I got started on anything
Doesnt the plastic off gas in the oven? Thay could be dangerous for real food. Thats why most folks get a toaster oven at a thrift shop
#edit... just read the description and see your notes about rpf confirmation. Never mind, move along hahha
does this work for bigger visors? i'm working on a helmet of my own design that has a visor that covers most of the face, and possibly even up around the head. is it possible/ feasible / best to make it myself, or to find a different way to do it with a visor that big/complicated?
Vacuum forming is basically infinitely scalable. If you are using your oven, just make sure your plastic fits! If it won’t fit in your oven, there are lots of tutorials on YT that show you how to use space heaters to heat very large sheets of plastic.
how would one make the kinda copper like color on a noble 6 helmet ?
You would have do do a very light amount of brown/orange dye and lots of chrome on the inside to give it more of a metallic look
will the chrome still smudge after it dries?
unfortunately yes. Pretty much the only instruction I give people if they want to try on a helmet is "don't touch the inside of the visor". Now, it doesn't hurt the look of the visor too much if you accidently touch a small part. You will notice yourself turning chrome before you see the visor starts to deteriorate. Usually, the inside of the visor is out of harm's way, so its not too much of a hassle.
I’m having a hard time getting the correct amount of chrome sprayed on my ODST visor😅😅How did you get yours so perfect and see through??? I’ve tried twice and I can barely see through it
Remember it will work better once you put it in a helmet. Just looking through it in a bright shop will make it look opaque. When the outside environment is much brighter than the environment on the chromed side of the visor (like when you put it in a helmet), you’ll see the full effect
Do you know if this will protect from bbs? Trying to make a custom suit for Airsoft
Nooooo it will not! Would not recommend this method for airsoft
Is there anything else i can use to make the mold without a 3d printer that'll be safe?
You may be able to make a buck out of clay or other sculpting material
I’ve looked everywhere, I have the 3d file for the visor, but how do I turn it into a vacuum seal mold?
You can do it digitally in a program like fusion 360 or blender, but it is easier to simply print the visor facing the sky with 5% overhang support angle. The support the slicer generates will fill the area under the visor
how did you create the bucks? and if you found them online can you link them please?
I 3D printed them. The STL is in the zip files along with the helmet model.
@@N8TEBB awesome thanks, I’m making a full suit for the Infinite version of chief, trying to find a good helmet that has a buck but it looks like I may have to take a visor and make it myself
I was stressing about how I could make a visor for my Protogen (Robot Furry) visor but this tutorial made me realize I literally have everything except for the plastic and dye
I'm actually so stupid 😭
But thanks for the great tutorial dude, really helps!
I'll make sure to tell my friends about it :)
i've seen peopIe use rectangular and circular iron man Ied eyes for their protogen heImets
Glad I could be of help!
any tips for dying something white
The problem is you can't get white dye. The closest you could get is just doing the chrome on the inside without dying the visor. This would make it chrome, not white, but I think that's the closest you can get.
Could you put the mold designs in the description?
Linked in the description! Here as well: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4960835
bruh i got the same ad
Do you think i could use PET? I know PETG is just a different type of PET so do you think it'll work?
I haven’t tried it. Unfortunately I don’t know. I believe it will vacuum forum but I’m not sure how the visibility will be.
i would have someone mold it with epoxy but it has to be were you see through
1. get epoxy
2. make mold from cardoard or 3d print
3. color it with color (recommend like glossy or glittry epoxy dust)
4.wait
5.glue to helment
ps. if you found this helpful like comment if you want or just say thank you in the replys
How did you make the mold?
It's 3D printed
I dont know if I missed it but what temp is the oven supposed to be?
300F.
What is the black spray u used on the visor buck
Just regular gloss black spray paint
@N8TEBB OK thanks any particular brand I should try?
Can you just use any vacuüm for this :)?
Aah i have one more question, not sure if you'll read this. I'm working on a DJ Sona cosplay and I'm planning to put a led screen in my visor. Because of this i want my visor to be pretty dark but i still want it to slightly diffuse my led screen. İs there any way to achieve this?
@@Agnosiaofz Yes you should be able to use any vacuum, but the stronger the better. If you're putting LEDs in the visor I would suggest not going to heavy on the tint because it will dim the LEDs too much. I'm not to sure how well LEDs will show through the chrome so I'm not too sure that this is the best method for making that sort of visor. I would recommend reaching out to DJ Sona cosplayers and asking them what they did (I think you can find some on reddit). I did make a daft punk helmet a while back and I used a tinted piece of a face shield. It seemed to work alright.
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Could I use my 600 degree C heat gun on half power instead of putting this in my oven? I think that it would be easier and I would feel better using the heat gun rather than using the oven.
I believe you could, but it might be tricky to get the plastic to heat evenly. Also, if it is heated too rapidly it can bubble in some areas, which makes it hard to see out of. If you heat the plastic slowly and evenly, I don't see why that wouldn't work. If you try it let me know how it works!
@@N8TEBB I'll give it a try once I make a vacuum former!
How big did you make your one just as a point of reference?
@@sebastianstars1791 It fits a 12x12" piece of plastic nicely
why don't you just bolt the frame instead of clamps?
I could, but the clamps are just quick and easy
What's the plastic and where can I get it again?
It’s 0.03” PETG. You can get it on eBay or mcmaster carr
@@N8TEBB link?
@@SpiderTrout I didn't provide you with a link because many of my viewers are not from my region, so the links I use are useless. If I can assume you're from the USA, you can find the product on the mcmaster carr website. Here is a link for your convenience: www.mcmaster.com/products/plastics/material~petg/thickness~0-030/thickness~0-03/color~clear/
PLEASE wear PPE. If you are sanding plastics this can get in your hair way and have SERIOUS negative effects to your health.
Yes you’re right! I see that I wasn’t wearing a mask when sanding the raw prints. I assure you I had PPE for applying and sanding filler primer and bondo however. I’ve made a habit since this video to keep the respirator on for all sanding tasks. Thanks for looking out 👍
Bruh... I can make my own vac form tool....... i'm about to vanish into my crafting room for MONTHS
An idea/recommendation based on my own experience. You could try using perforated vinyl on the inside instead of spraying. It's an alternative to mirrored effects. You may have to go about it differently but it's worth experimenting.
Alternatively I've used perforated vinyls for spray templates because the holes mean you can make a good one way effect with paint and without the vinyl. It's hard to kinda explain what I mean, you'd kinda just have to look it up to get it 😅
Perforated vinyl or vinyl in general works for flatter visors like the one I did in the video, but for visors with more texture or complex curves it can be exceptionally difficult to apply. That’s why I like this method especially- it works for any shape of visor. The mirror effect is not limited to needing a flat design. Vinyls certainly are very useful if they can be applied to your visor however.
Heads up on an easier way.. get stick on chrome window tint and line your visors with it. Cheap 2 way mirrors are made with it.
Does it not wrinkle when you try to get it to go around the curves and texture of a visor? That may work for a flat visor like the one I made in the video, but for a visor like the one use in the mk6 chief helmet, I don’t think that would work, no? If you have a different experience please share with me! I’m always looking for ways to improve
bro says ''easy'' Hahahah
I hope you don't use that oven for food... Plastics release fumes and particles when heated and they'll transfer over time onto whatever else you heat up in that thing.
Obviously, that's not good for your health
PETG can produce fumes that are harmful when it's heated to a high temperature. That being said, if you're vacuum forming only occasionally, and not going to an excessive high temperature, the fumes are minimal. When I vacuum form, I cannot smell fumes from the plastic. From what I understand, the fumes are minimal enough to not be hazardous to your health. I have confidence that this is a safe way to do occasional vacuum forming, as many members on the RPF report using this method for years.
I have heard people have success using large space heaters mounted on their side, or making a makeshift oven enclosure with heaters or heat guns to try to evenly heat the plastic. In my opinion, the immediate fire risk space heaters with bypassed safety features and makeshift ovens provide is much greater than the potential health risk of fumes being trapped in the oven.
Ideally, for regularly vacuum forming, a separate oven dedicated for vacuum forming would be used. In my case, the risk is so minimal that it does not justify the cost of a second oven.
Edit: As you are the second person to bring this up, I have added this same safety statement to the video description.
Just so you know, it's a "two-way mirror". A "one-way mirror" is just a regular mirror. A two-way mirror is one where on on side you can see a reflection and on the other side you can see through.
One-way mirror, two-way mirror, half-silvered mirror, semi-transparent mirror, reciprocal mirror, all the same en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_mirror
@@N8TEBB Thanks! I stand corrected.
ONLY critique i have is NEVER use an oven you cook your food in. no Bueno! find a different method
Why? Any toxins will literally cook away and I’m hoping you won’t put your plastic in there long enough to gas something up. It’s PETG, food safe plastic.
There is a disclaimer in the video description. I believe it’s safe for occasional vacuum forming.
You look fairly young
$100 says you were homeschooled (no offense at all as I was too haha)
I am a product of the Canadian public board school system grades k-12. I'll take that $100 haha
no way haha. well looks like their school system is really good because you definitely seem pretty smart! Here in America homeschoolers typically are really crafty and smart so seeing all your experience with stuff like this I was almost certainly. Great video! building my vacuum former now because of you!@@N8TEBB
Man this is awesome I'm going to use this to make my ODST visor