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- Star Trek The Next Generation s04e03 Brothers
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Intro Audio: StarTrekTNG: s03e06 'Booby Trap' & s03e12 'The High Ground' - บันเทิง
Brent spiner is a better actor he ever got credit for
Brent Spiner's acting makes this episode so much. He really shines when he's allowed to act but is also given arbitrary constraints on what he can do with the character.
Are you serious? lol, you should go watch some Daniel Day-Lewis films it'll blow your fuckin mind.
@@H_E_N_X What? No one is saying he's the best actor to ever live, just that he's a better actor than most people think.
He was great on night court
@@H_E_N_X
Daniel Day-Lewis is one of the greatest actors alive, but the span between them isn't nearly as large as you're implying.
Credit to Spiner for playing all three parts so well, but also credit to the writers for making Soong flawed, Lore redeemable, and Data tempted. And in the end, Lore can't be redeemed, Soong becomes a character you empathize with, and Data sees what emotions really can do and how scary they can be. The arc of these three is absolutely brilliant.
Eventually Spiner will play a fourth and fifth character as well as these three.
He is possessed by the evil Dr who died and transferred himself into Data and the he plays the very unadvanced B4 in Nemesis.
@@donaldholderdoc2910 he also plays as data channeling the mask aliens personalities... other things. spiner's range is amazing in TNG it feels such a shame he was in so little else.
Not gonna lie
Knowing Data is 3 parting this from a acting stand point is news
Lore legit seemed like he was a different actor then Data XD and thats not the little kid in me, they are compellingly diffrent
And no clue Soong was The same Actor
*Hats off* brilliant talent
But Lore was never redeemable in my eye XD
I literally was like "whats the angle Lore? You dont care if your brother gets something, you were willing to kill him last time you meet and if i were Data, you wouldnt be here today"
Indeed, one thing not fleshed out is, would the recall command affect Androids created from Data's software or hardware (so to speak)?
Wonder if he got three seperate pay cheques lol
Soong: Sit down.
Data: *Quietly sits down*
Lore: *FInds the loudest chair in the room, makes sure to put it down as loudly as possible, sits down and pouts like a child*
In this scene, I saw Lore as just a child with power. Kinda reminds me of a more intelligent Hulk.
@@jdruin1Technically, both Data and Lore are like children despite having adult bodies.
One actor, three completely different characters, one completely immersive and absolutely convincing scene.
If you are encapsulated in the show
You might not even realize theres only 1 actor here XD
I didnt =| XD
Lore is so different to Data it escapes thought that its the same actor And Soong is in a epic disguise XD
@donovanulrich348 It makes sense for Spiner to play Data and Lore since he didn't have an identical twin brother but they could have found a different actor to play Soong so that Spiner wouldn't have to work so hard.
Car salesman: (slaps Spiner) "This bad boy can fit so many characters."
Soong: “No Data, you are not less perfect… that would be B4”
Data and Lore: “WTF?!? There’s another one of us out there?”
"Well... then there's your mother... who, technically, is actually your younger sister..."
"What?!"
"But you can't tell anyone. She's one hundred percent indistinguishable from a human. Even she doesn't know she isn't one. I built her in about an hour."
_"WHAT?!"_
"Oh, and your human brother who is one hundred percent identical to me. Not a hair's breadth of genetic drift at all. Heh, heh, heh."
"Oh, fuck this."
"Watch your language, Data."
@@JohnCastleSmokeless " She's one hundred percent indistinguishable from a human." unless she gets a minor cut. Then she's SUPER distinguishable. She's basically a flank steak I stapled to a duranium skeleton.
@@mrbibs350 That gave me a good long chuckle.
@@JohnCastleSmokeless elaborate pls
B4 is probably the kookiest one of them all.
I always thought a better line in this episode from Soong about Lore would've been "I made you *too* human. You're what all humans could or would be if they had no morality. You wanted to be accepted, respected...revered...and when the colonists rejected you...when I rejected you.... Data was my attempt to create a child, a being that could experience life anew with a child's innocence, whereas you never enjoyed that luxury. I threw you in the deep end of the pool and was surprised when you started drowning."
That would be surprising, because, in an emergency, Lore is equipped to act as a life preserver.
You really don't have to imagine this. To many people today act insane and no longer have morality.
@@russell5078084 LOL, "today" XD
I love beans, dookey-doo!
The Dr could have made a chip for lore
And he probably would have done something similar -.-
He always had emotion He is literally a amalgamation of the 7 sins And with emotion he begins acting on it even more so
Pride in ones ability
Lust for perfection and glory
Glutin for power
Anger to family and defiant powers
Envious of his creator
Jealous of his brother
And literally is the embodiment of wrath when he is in command
Allies to the crystiline entity, borg lol XD Who fucked up star fleet more then the Borg? Lore's Borg wernt a major threat, but the willingness to ally Thats low
Lore doesn't waste any time, does he? He goes right from lies, to manipulations, to attacks, as the opportunities present themselves. A total sociopath.
Got to love that insincere smile of his too.
Not a sociopath just very unstable and maladjusted. You can see even here how much he wants Soong's approval.
And let's be honest, "disassembling" what is essentially your son because he's unstable is kind of a fucked up thing to do. It's the same as abandoning them.
You can't really blame Lore for being upset there.
@@KyokujiFGC It's the question of the value of one life versus many. Merely saying Lore was unstable is being very kind; Lore was already a proven killer. Soong did the only sensible thing under the circumstances.
Can a robot really be a sociopath though?
@@Player_Zhirow The real question is: "Can a robot NOT be a sociopath?" Hopefully we'll learn the answer to that quickly and painlessly in the near future.
The two of you are virtually identical, except for a bit of programming. Ah yes, the murderous sociopath or noble being switch. Such a small piece of code.
It was a 1, should have been a 0
Sometimes, even two identical twins turn out quite different despite their similarities.
I don't know. I mean think about it. 2 human beings. Pretty much the same biology. And yet one is a serial killer. What makes the one a normal rational being and the other a murderer that takes joy in killing others? Small differences within the brain.
Well there's your problem, this switch is set to "Evil" lol
It's that TYPE-L phase discriminator I tells ya. Makes em evil.
1:23 The most logical _and_ the most practical - why potentially spend an indefinite amount of time going over your designs to try and walk back a flaw that you introduced by accident, rather than create a new model that _can't_ have the flaw in the first place?
It's perfectly reasonable, and perfectly inhumane.
To be fair, building Data could have given Soong insight on how to repair Lor. If the crystalline entity hadn't shown up Soong likely would've perfected Lor, or at least cured his mental illness
I think his reasoning was that because he started with Lore by giving him everything, which became so tangled up, that he felt it would be impossible to unwind his flaws so he started with a blank slate. Instead of giving Data everything and working down, he would give him no feeling at all and work his way up, from a blank slate. If he could give feelings to one who had none, it may have been possible to make another for Lore. Removing the feelings he had then giving him the same set as Data may have been possible, but there are possible hidden complications with this since we are talking about tampering with what is essentially a brain.
Would it even be possible to remove the mess in Lore's head without making more problems? Are the feelings he was given too deeply rooted in his neural function to remove them without "killing" him? We can only speculate since such tech still doesn't exist for us and it was probably for the best that his reasoning was not to deeply explored, lest the emotional impact of the scene get drowned out in mcguffins and technobabble. All we can do is take his word that he did not believe it was achievable with the time he had, and that trying it from a different angle with Data was more feasible for him.
Unfortunately, the truly logical solution for Lore himself is to wipe his mind and start over. Which is even more inhumane
Correct. It was. In fact, you can see Soong's design philosophies reflected in Lore and Data. In Lore, he sought to make an android out of ambition, pride, and without double-checking the consequences. In Data, he suffered his mistakes, and he suppressed his care into a cold, hard, mathematical reasoning. It's Soong's fingerprints that make up their respective, and exaggerated, personalities.
Lore had been programmed with basic emotion in the hope he could uncover it naturally but remain humble
Data had been left a blank slate in the emotional department but the neurons exist and programs can adapt to them
This is why Data seems emotionally removed, even in episodes where he has ranges of emotion
He strives to remain Humble first, there for sacrifices his own individuality
Lore is the exact opposite
Because of the way he was built and how he evolved
Data was a combination of skill and luck not to become another Lore, human emotions can corrupt saints
3:02 It just dawned on me. When Dr. Soong shows Data the emotion chip, I can hear a little bit of Ron Jones' score from "Where No One Has Gone Before."
5:02 The moment Lore gave that sneaky, sinister smirk you know he's up to something.
3:37 Spiner's performance is flawless as Lore in that you can't really tell if he IS being sincere or if it's another long con. Because, like data, he also has had to experience all of the responses around him, either directed towards him or in front of him. You can't really be sure if he has had a change of heart after his father had explained himself, and possibly remembering what it was like for him. Lore and Data are the equivalent of Frankenstein's creature - a being who gave in to baser emotion because his creator rejected him - and Pinocchio - a puppet who longs to be human - as Riker affiliated him with in their first meeting. I truly hope that we get to see Lore again, as he was deactivated by Data and disassembled.
I found this episode sad that Dr. Soong died not knowing that Data had a daughter. Felt like a missed opportunity for the writers to even mention that.
I think theres a timeline where Picard had Lore chased down
And this was never an issue, because there was no Lore coming back today XD
Hes on Star fleets shelf
I just couldn't help but notice a passing resemblance to Lol in Grace the human like Nursing Assistant. th-cam.com/video/ByLiGisgpN0/w-d-xo.html
Maybe Soong died before Data created Lal.
If I remember right, the director, Rob Bowman---who also directed "Datalore" and about a dozen other TNG episodes---told Starlog magazine that these scenes were all shot on a very tight, very closed stage as Spiner brought all three characters to life.
feelings do funny things you may even understand your evil brother🤣
Brent Spiner played these parts well
Agreed. He really makes it feel like 2 separate androids are in the room.
I really wish he hadn’t been given such extraneous and unconvincing makeup as Soong. It distracts so much from his performance.
I agree with Holmes XD
Iv seen the Lore episodes
Never put it together, thats the same actor
More like "hay, its Data's older bro *satin*. Hay Lore"
Brent Spiner is a brilliant actor. Absolutely brilliant
He is. One of the best I've ever seen. But tbh, I think Brent's good looks also made Data a popular character in addition to his talent.
Lore played on Soong's emotions the moment Soong told him he was dying. Soong should have listened to Data.
Lore or less... ;)
Corrective circuits have been initiated.
@M Z I take it that you are new to wordplay. Not part of your programming?
It's funny that Soong thought his sociopathic son was going to suddenly empathize with him just because he was dying. People claim sociopaths can turn empathy on or off, but thats not how that works. It's on all the time for them, they just see it from a completely different angle. They see it as some weird charade, a layer of theatrics, like our facial muscles or vocal chords. They don't have a soul to reflect in you.
@M Z That's called a typo. An error in typography in which a key adjacent or sometimes nowhere near another is inadvertently pressed creating an error in the text.
Such as the word Snore becoming Smore, and vice-versa. _We roasted snores by the fire._
Or the word Duck. _Mom loves watching the fucks at the pond._ Etc.
Now that I see this scene just on its own, knowing the whole episode, but having the opportunity to examine just this scene, and think about its analogy to real life, it is way deeper than I realized before. Lore could have had what he deserved all along, and the opportunity was lost, and he has such good reason to be bitter. One story I would love to see brought to life is the creation of Lore, Data, B4, and the events leading to the annihilation of the Omicron Theta colony and the Starfleet people finding and activating Data. We've seen Data learn grow, evolve, and seen his end, and his other end, but his beginning is only a story we have been told and have never seen.
Aaaaaand the twist where Lore steals the chip could have entirely been avoided if Soong had told Lore during this conversation "now that I know you're alive I'll make you one and fix ya up"
Like, surely there isn't too little time, Soong spent so long *designing* the first chip, he already knows exactly what's up with Lore and how to fix it. And if there really wasn't, he could have given his work to Data and Lore to finish.
The problem was Lore already was programmed with basic emotion
Lore learned and made his own personality from there
Soong realized emotion would often corrupt, so he made Data passive but understanding
Data learned Humanity and empathy before receiving emotion. And soong made sure of it before contacting Data (cuz news does travel, no he didnt know directly about Data or Lore)
Its not like when lore got the chip he became good or passive like Data
Its not what you have, but what you do that defines you
@donovanulrich348 I think that Lore stole the chip because he was jealous of Data.
Imagine a Star Trek with Data and Lore onboard doing usual thing. The Enterprise would have quite the culture. But with Lore's attitude in the show and how evil he was, it's difficult to see him functioning like Data, plus Spiner would probably have one hell of a role.
Also, I love the intro: "Good lord, didn't anybody here subscribe? Thank you."
I can imagine that... I can also imagine Brent Spiner having a mental breakdown from playing both characters on every episode.
@@txjeb "Oh good lord, didn't anybody here build ships in a bottle when they were young?"
@@txjeb I think we could have had more episodes with Lore if Brent Spiner actually did have an identical twin brother who could act as well as him, like the Olsen Twins.
Incredible performances by Brent Spiner.
I am not less perfect than lore.
Lore mockingly: "I am not less perfect that Looooore."
Lore mind fucked Data thinking Lore was the perfect child, wile the opposite is true to those to value humanity and empathy
Lore had emotion, without empathy or humanity. Data has neither, but can learn to adapt to them
I love that line.
One of my favorite episodes in all of trek. I always had hope that lore could turn a corner and become like data but it never happened.
It cant happen
Its a biblical paralleled story XD
Lore is Satin
The first born high angel, never sins, but is a master manipulator, looks down on his creator for having compassion with a lesser being
Lore and Satin see humanity the species and the care of others, as weakness and empathy as the root cause of that weakness
Data and Jesus put all life above there own in the eyes of there creator
Its no accident Lore is irredeemable
Only sad
@@donovanulrich348 Satin is really smooth.
Gotta watch MLP for that kind of storytelling. ... I am glad that still exists.
Lore's issue reminds me of why the replicants in Blade Runner acted out. They're emotionally immature and behave like petulant children, as they didn't have enough time to develop and couldn't handle the impact, much like Data in Generations. It seems like the writers borrowed this idea and modified it to fit TNG.
very good point
I see you've never watched Blade Runner...
@@bergiov or the train wreck new one
Soong set out to recreate a human being. What he ended up with was a narcissist with self-esteem issues. Sounds like success to me... "entangled with ambition..." Yeah, It really do be like that...
I kind've wish Lore could have been redeemed.
Who knows, maybe he might yet be reassembled in Picard?
I think we saw some remnants of his personality in Sutra in Star Trek - Picard.
No, I think not.
Some people are never meant to be redeemed. You can offer every one a chance at redemption, but you also must know when they are beyond it.
Lore. The Joker. Naraku. Etc...
There has to be fictional characters who are beyond redemption, because there are real people who too are beyond hope. These stories about fictional characters must be a warning for the real monsters.
You can have pity for them. But one must never forget that they must be stopped.
@@ArcDragoon People make those decisions for themselves, whether they change or not. No one gets to make it for them. You can't compare real people with comic book and sci fi tropes.
@@GuiltyKit No, you can. Regardless if a character is fictional or not. Unless the character in question is being written as if they do not have the freedom of choice, then it is assumed said character made that choice. Therefore, these fictional character who are beyond hope of redemption are the analogues for irredeemable real life people. Like for example, Hitler. Even if I knew that his history was marred with child abuse it would be no excuse for his actions and hence beyond redemption. He made those decisions, he is beyond redemption. There are real monsters in real life, and fictional characters allow people to explore these monsters.
2:26 Of all the old-fashioned stuff in the good doctor's lab-domecile, the two-handled faucet in the foreground was the last relic I'd expected to see.
Good Lord, 60 trillion operations per second and it takes Data a full minute to grasp that he’s “not less perfect than Lore” ?
I thought it was a brilliantly human reaction. He had internalized the idea that he was the inferior android because he was created without something as vital as emotions. I'm sure it didn't help that Lore came around and reinforced that idea at every turn (even though he was a sociopathic homicidal maniac). It's hard to deprogram self-perception.
Then again, I run on the idea that Data had emotions--at least, insofar as that he had attachments, aversions, and had a conscience that seemed to go beyond his programming. He felt 'empty' after Tasha died, was clearly conflicted at meeting (and being betrayed by) her sister, decided that he needed to protect a growing cybernetic sentience at the expense of his crewmates because he felt he had a moral obligation to help ones like himself, etc. Data had emotions in every way that counted, he just didn't _feel_ them the way organic creatures did.
Yeah Data should be more like Rudolph the fake red deer
And just get over a lifetime of doubt in a second because Santa asked nice I mean Soong said so
Love Picard asking to subscribe lol. Fantastic!
I like how Picard asks if we’re subscribed before the video starts
I love that intro. xD
3:05 "This... this... this is going to look different ever time it is shown in the future."
the damn thing kept growing, i was starting to suspect it was Borg and was going to eventually become a mile wide cube.
@@HereticDuo The emotion chip?
@@HereticDuo It got all floaty-spinny, too.
lol exactly what I was thinking. in Decent it was bigger, then in Generations it was MASSIVE in comparison
@@Italian69Boi Maybe in Generations it was in a sealed case only Data could access? Just a theory.
Lore is acting a lot like an older brother jealous of his sibling. Even though they are identical, being a victim of first born syndrome is very obvious.
Lore was more human but with the emotions of a child.
If Dr. Soong had no time left to fix Lore's emotional problems, he definitely didn't have time left to make B-4 more than a pathetic simpleton.
pretty sure B-4 was shoe horned into the movie to give Data an improper send off like Spock in ST: WK
I'm pretty sure it was implied that B-4 was a prototype and probably older than Lore
And datas mom!
@@edwarddeguzman3258 Juliana Soong herself said that they built at least 4 prototypes before Lore and Data. B4 could simply have been one of those prototypes
@@CyborgCharlotte In fact, he was probably Build #4 of the prototype run, thus the name.
Makes yo wonder what happened to B1, B2 and B3
*Mocking Data* "I am not less perfect than Lore"🤣I always crack up at that part. It's hard to believe Brent Spiner acted all three parts. Incredible. That devious smile by Lore at 5:02🤣
I love how lore while mad and venting his frustration doesn’t break anything just spins it, moves it, instead of knocking things of tables and such like anyone else would
Brent Spiner's acting is all the more impressive when considering Data was the only character he played regularly.
Nice to see Soong got his wall lamp back after Fajo stole it from him.
Dude, that grin on Lore's face at the very end of this video... Oh, we know what he was thinking alright. We know where this is all going. >:D
Lore rocking those bath rugs
The new intro is brilliant
"You were the first... Well, except for B-4. He was disassembled and sent to a Neutral Zone planet."
The costume designers were just fantastic - with the exception of the star fleet uniform.
I know I'm not the first or even the 100th person to say this...
...But Brent Spiner is so stupidly GOOD at this that if you even BLINK you forget it's all him and think "Yep, there are three people in this scene!" It's still amazing!
We all questioned Lore's sincerity Data!
Brent Spiner should have a SHELF full of awards after doing this episode! Just saying.
lbr the title of this video should have been "I aM nOt LeSs PeRfEcT tHaN lOrE".
Mom: "Hey what do you want for dinner?"
Me: "I am not less perfect than Lore...?"
The doctor's biggest mistake was to reactivate Lore when it came back. What the doctor should have done was give date of the emotion chip then reactivate Lore.
But the writhers thought that was stupid
And the director didnt have time to care XD
"We will be more alike, Data; you and I, you'll see."
Oof. Coming off of Picard S3, Lore was absolutely right. The craziest part is, had you told me before S3 dropped that Data and Lore becoming more alike would be a _good_ thing, I would've thought you were insane.
I never realized the parallel between this episode and The Bible.
Guess it never really clicked, because I actively stay away from that stuff in my youth. The older I got the more I started to see in this world. True evil and darkness taking over places of authority and power here on this Earth. Made me start to wonder. Then realized the signs of all this was all around me. However, I would not be one to try to convert people.
When people come around to this stuff in their own time, it makes a much bigger impact upon their lives and their sight.
A PROFOUND lesson one I have been struggling with this last year
@@RegentofSparta Truly it is very profound! I am just a simple man who does my best to live a life outside of regulations and rules, while still adhering to my own moral compass and rules that give me a leg up. It has kept me out of the "justice" system. It has kept me out of dead end marriages and other things that can bring harm to us men.
I tried to steer clear of most religion while paying it enough respect to listen to those who seemed like they had something to offer me in a spiritual and mental sense.
Most of this has come down to self fulfilling prophecies brought on by extremists on both sides of the political isle.
I will still stay out of churches and keep my distance from religious extremists.
The far left and far right have brought about all this in a way that is very interesting to me.
Thus following and reading the bible can give you an insight to what is coming. Not so much because all of it is 100% real. But because it was made to be real.
Each side did their part to bring about what we are dealing with in our culture and societies.
And in the end, we can see these things play out. One could be lured into the sense the bible was right the whole time.
I try not to get lured into that. When all that has played out has been just that.
Self fulfilling prophecies.
Brought on by the worst people we have on this Earth.
So when I see meaning in the Bible and other religious materials, I see something deeper into it. The very thing that can only be seen when a man comes to this in his own time.
After a good many losses in my life and lots of hard knocks it starts to make a little bit of sense.
But nothing is 100% sure thing.
So I try to keep an open mind. And thus could write a 15 chapter book on the subject. YT won't let me do videos without taking them down and striking my channels. Which gives me even more resolve that I might be onto something.
Thank you for your reply! Communication is the only way forward.
Lol brak at the end XD
🎭🎭🎭🎭🎥🎥🎥 Bent Spiner good show
Brent Spiner definitely plays an android better than a human.
Lore did the Riker Maneuver
Lore takes the bad boy seat
I couldn’t agree with Data more that he’s not less perfect than Lore
"you took me apart..." "and I took that personally"
what so many parents go through at some time, I'm sure. Lucy has always been prettier, but you Olga, you're so smart!
I hope Brent Spiner got paid 3x for these 3 wonderful performances.
HE, SAID, BROTHERS!!!
Your bother* had good reason...
Your brotherS* had good reason...
IT, WAS, BROTHERS!
You Took Me Apart, Lisa!
The parable of The Prodigal Son with androids.
1:45 LOL
I love dad jokes - And that my internet wayfarers... is the Lore of Data. Such that Lore came first so as to be the lore of Data.
0:34 - that makeup is TRULY impressive (for the time) but also fucking HORRIFYING XD
You took me apart, Lisa!
Moar Lore clips plz with a side of beans
Wow. Thor vs. Loki vibes.
Lore would be a much better villain for any star trek show if only Brent was younger.
Great new intro.
Honestly Lorr isn't who's broken, it's society.
Black Widow: Lore killed millions by directing the crystalline entity against planets.
Lore is Satin, well the personification
So your argument is invalid saying society is the flaw, satin twists society By choice Not design
@@donovanulrich348 Noo, satin makes lovely clothing!
And society is what if not broken people?
The beans are gyrating now 😩
1:53 The only one who appeared to have some kind of control over Lore.
1:40 Still waiting on that Data and Lore spinoff sitcom.
it's like seeing two children that have been traumatized in two different way q.q
Oh yeah , the " chip " so data can really enjoy eating beans and not just consume them .
Spiner was the most interesting character of Next Gen. That Voyager series was failing miserably until 7 showed up. I think she saved the entire series. Only one other character (Doc) was worth knowing there.
0:06 Nice outfit, Lore!
You can't fix evil, malicious
Three different characters with three totally different personalities. All talking to each other believably. All played by one guy. I wish Jeffrey Combs had the same chance on DS9.
our spiiner
poor lore getting the short end of the stick
Their costumes are made out of moving blankets lol
Imagine he had a real whole child otherwise “Picard”
bro this symbolism is hitting hard
3:23 The veins on the doctor's head read 'A.I.'
Soong reminds me of Yogurt from Space Balls
Lore and Data remind me of Liquid and Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid. Liquid was the superior brother genetically, but was brought up thinking he was the inferior one, Lore is Liquid Snake.
YOU TORE ME APART, LISA----
Wait wrong movie.
His cybernetic design came in four stages: Dr. Soong was able to mimic his lover so well, she didn't even know she was an android. B4, Lore, Data and Dr. Juliana Tainer.
You know, given enterpise, with the doctor there working on augments prior to androids... I've always wondered. Wouldn't it be neat if this was actually Flint? Born in 3800 bc... grew up realizing he was immortal. Traveling the middle east becoming Methuselah, teaching Moses, deciding that humanity needed a sterner hand becoming King Solomon, then Alexander the Great. When ruling with power didn't work, he tried changing humanity through religion... creating Christianity... That didn't work well... so he tried uplifting humanity with arts and culture, taking on identies such as Leonardo da Vinci.
From this there's a good chance he went into genetics trying to improve humanity that way... and we got the Eugenics wars... Then in enterprise we meet a Sune, who's trying to fix the augments... doesn't go over well at all... so gets into androids... From there we go to Flint where he's still working on androids but simple emotions causes them to "crash"... next we get data without emotions and sune still working.
I feel for Lore
Listen. Ive never seen tng besides these clips.
Data never needed any tiny bit of gold and plastic, never needed any amount of code to feel. Data was human, through and through.
You Took Me Apart Lisa
This is some ProtoMan & MegaMan shit
Often Wrong's got a broken heart, can't even tell his boys apart.
This was such a cringly obvious setup: Say the procedure is simple, and then retreat and leave Lore along with the chip, and they don't even know whether Soong will ever wake up from his sleep.
And if Soong was a bit less trusting, he could have told Lore that Data can be a guinea pig and if the chip works properly, they can both study his work and build one for Lore that moves him a bit closer to Data. - So much potential there, but the dramatic villain plot has to advance relentlessly.