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- Star Trek The Next Generation s04e03 Brothers
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Intro Audio: StarTrekTNG: s03e06 'Booby Trap' & s03e12 'The High Ground' - บันเทิง
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"Often-Wrong's got a broken heart.
Can't even tell his boys apart"
Ooooooohhhhhhh that was a coooold one.....
That entire sequence was perfect, the music, Spiner the lot
“Where’s Data?” 😂
@@kellyweingart3692 "WhErE's DaTa¿"
You would think that Dr. Soong would know that Lore wasn't Data when he opened him up to install the chip. Their programming was a bit different so wouldn't Data/Lore look different on the inside as well?
@@Elly3981 Sung said that they were alike except for a bit of programming, meaning identical hardware and different software. You can't tell how a computer is programmed just by looking at it, even by looking inside of it.
God, he played evil so, so well. You just feel like Lore could lunge at you at any moment.
Could just see him in a leather jacket as a vicious street punk.
yup same with him in "Fist Full of Datas" with him in the holodeck characters
Spiner had an amazing range. One moment, logical, emotionless, wise; the next, narcissistic, callous and evil.
@@SonofTiamatBrent plays the part of an android so well. I'm pretty sure that he could have played the T-1000 in Terminator 2 just as good or even better than Robert Patrick.
Brent could pull off such an evil yet sexy smile when he plays Lore or any villainous character!
I felt bad for Lore when he said “I would have proven myself worthy if you’d just given me a chance..” Until he killed Soong..
Well, Lore was already unstable to begin with but Data's emotion chip finally drove him insane and he ended up murdering Dr. Soong and tried to do the same to Data out of jealously.
Don't forget he summoned the crystal entity to wipe out the colony where Soong build him - probably summoned it before he was dismantled and it took a while to show up. Then he summoned it again to sacrifice the crew of the Enterprise to it. Basically he was a mass-murderer.
A nice detail that Riker turns Data back on, as we know he learnt where Data's "on / off" switch is hidden in that episode where he had to prosecute the case that Data was Starfleet property.
I thought you were gonna make a gay joke...
Measure of a man
@@kellyweingart3692 Yes, you're right. That was the name of the episode. I'm not great at remembering episode names, to be honest.
He could have done that in the beginning of the episode when it was damn obvious that Data was the one causing weird stuff to happen.
"Where's Data?"
"WhErE's DaTa!?"
Brent Spiner is a great actor.
One of the best, if not the best, actors I've ever seen.
It's the biblical story about Jacob who betrays his brother to gain the gift of his father.
Perhaps
I can't hear it clearly, but does he say Esau at 4:30? That was the name of Jacob's brother.
You are completely wrong. It's about a Turk and a Russian killing each other in a pointless duel.
@@david4176 The song is, the overall episode isn't.
Except Esau was hairy, and Data&Lore are not.
That emotion bean wasn’t meant for Lore! He should have listened!
Now the circuits are farting!
Even if Lore knew the chip would drive him insane, he wouldn't have cared. He just wanted it because he was jealous of Data.
Lore's so devious and pretty scary lol."I don't know what exactly it's doing but it's doing something" lol
lol
Well, he was already unstable but the chip finally drove him over the edge because it wasn't meant for him.
Someone got 3 paychecks that week.
Lore was a rarity among Star Trek villians. Normally they were at least moderately sympathetic or at least understandable. Lore was a petulant child who loved to break things, a perfect foil to the compassionate and logical Data. Brett Spiner did a great job helping me loathe this character.
Lore wasn't hard to hate, but you have to realize that he was malfunctioning. If he were a human, he would be classified as insane and would be confined to an institution until he could be cured. The problem with Lore is that an android of his capabilities is incredibly dangerous and nobody ever incapacitated him and tried to repair his faulty programming. When he was finally shut off by Data, he was simply dismantled by Starfleet. Yes, he acted with the emotional maturity of a child, but one with with 10x the strength of an adult and many times the intelligence. The best episode of the Twilight Zone, "It's a Good Life" and the derivative TOS episode "Charlie X" very perfectly demonstrated how a child can be absolutely terrifying if they have power.
@@Rubyofthedead This is why I always had sympathy for Lore, and why I had sympathy for another AI evil twin... KARR. No one at Knight Industries realized KARR killed because he was sentient enough to be afraid for his own life, then they stuck him in storage for years, which is essentially the same to an AI as a sensory deprivation tank would be to a human. Then, when he got loose, there was zero sympathy for why he might be angry and more than a little insane.
@@XH1927 Same with humans in life, we are not good or evil by default, that's usually defined by what life throws at us.
@@Rubyofthedead The Twilight Zone movie demonstrated that well, also.
@@Rubyofthedeadat least going by our 21st century standards of psychiatric care, being confined to an institution is not much different than being disassembled & stuck in storage.
"So alike... ha hmm... Esau...I couldn't tell you apart..."
The biblical reference is not lost on some.
It was, however, lost on the ones who did the closed captioning.
I had no idea he said Esau! That's cool
a quick explanation for the non-religious?
@@na3044 In the bible, the prophet Isaac wanted to give the divine birthright to his eldest child Esau, but Jacob, Esau’s twin (with the help of Isaac’s wife) tricked the then-blind Isaac on his deathbed that he was speaking to his eldest child.
Isaac unknowingly gave the birthright to Jacob and not Esau, for he couldn’t tell them apart in that moment.
Just like how Dr. Soong couldn’t tell Lore was in the chair getting the emotion chip, and not Data.
@@FromAgonyToLight Thanks.
That look Michael Dorn spent years on was perfected in this episode at eh point when he carried in Data.
A lot of people can't sympathise with Lore but how would you feel if instead of helping you with your issues your parents just chopped you into bits and left you to rot?
Not physically but emotionally my parents did just that. I'm not like Lore.
@@debbie4503 "Emotionally chopped you into bits and left you to rot?" And you're using that as an excuse to not sympathize with someone with the same experience (not really though) because of your perceived superiority. You clearly had 2 parents and a sheltered life.
@@zehsackett6132 who the hell do you think you are? You are pulling a real flesh-and-blood human being down to defend a fictional character who isn't even human.
Tell me you're a narcissist without telling me you're a narcissist.
@@arctech6169 ???
Sympathize surely, BUT that would end pretty fast with his becoming a mass murdering sociopath!
Has Lays taught you nothing??? You never have only one chip!
@@beneko1127 "Once you pop, you can't stop!"
There can only be one ! 😮
plus Frito Lay treats their workers like absolute trash don't buy them
Thats why hes often wrong
@@Italian69Boi The *Lays Off* rule? 😉
2:54 - given Lore and Data's fondness for showtunes and musicals - I wonder if that particular hobby came from part of what they inherited from Soong
Worf shouldn’t be carrying a heavy Android around like that, with his bad back
My first thought as well, but apparently he only weighs about 220lbs.
@@JasonAguirre There's a common TV trope about Data that occasionally implies he must weight a lot more. It's related to how people with super strength can hold an airplane at the wing without tipping over or the wing breaking.
The chip looks completely different in Generations and was installed in a completely different place in Generations as if they couldn't be bothered to go back and watch this episode.
If your that desperate for an explanation, just pretend that after recovering it from Lore, Data spent the time he had with it repairing the chip. So he had to fit it to a larger platform to make it work.
@@Paul-A01 I always assumed the chip prop we saw on the shelf in Generations was like a protective case for the actual functional bit.
Berman’s movies didn’t give a shit about continuity.
Continuity FTW?
@@Paul-A01 I mean if he created a daughter with emotions.. He could fix the chip.
Finally figured out where Pogo got the Ba-pa-pa...
I saw that Pogo video before watching the series. Boy it was an experience hearing each of the lines from the song as they came up in the show.
Oh he is brilliant when he does Lor 'You didn't fill Data with substandard parts did you old man'
No. That honor was bestowed upon me.
Brent Spiner at his best!
Oh, of course the mad scientist needs neon-lamps and glasses with colorful bubbly liquids in his lab.
Lore is such a great villain. I'm glad he was never destroyed, just disassembled - they've kind of missed the boat in the Picard series by not bringing him back then as he would have fit as the villain for the Data related story, so it's unlikely we'll ever hear from him again now. But it's still a nice thought that he's still in parts somewhere in Starfleet storage and is technically only incapacitated.
Definitely technically incapacitated. 😄
Well, so….
Hmm, never noticed this before, when they beam out, their reflections are still there on the top section of the transporter (which anecdotedly speaking is the original platform of the TOS transporter!)... :P
I see you are really reflecting on these videos.
That hum as he leaves continues *to amaze and haunt.*
Alternate title: It Wasn't Meant For You
Lore's malfunction was overriding ambition and complete disregard for human life. He considered himself superior to the species he gained control of and used them to further his power. Many mass murderers in human history have been called 'the great' for that...
"Often wrongs got a broken heart...tried to shit...but could only fart."
"I could never build another one" just isn't how technology design works. I never got that trope in movies and shows etc.
I didn't hear a "never" in there, but I think the "couldn't" was just about the time he knew he had left after finding out Lore was alive. Even before Lore assaulted him, he was feeble and knew he would soon be dead. To fix Lore, he'd have to be certain that Data's chip worked well enough and then figure out how to design a similar one that was suited to Lore. After that, who knows how long the actual construction would have taken? This is some pretty advanced technology, after all.
As he knew he was dying, i think he scrambled/panic built the chip. Probably kept mental notes and didnt take time to note what he was doing along the way. And saying " i couldn't build another" was simply stating he doesn't have time( even without getting tossed around by Lore). And without physical notes nobody else can make one either. You would have to reverse engineer the only existing chip and risk destroying it and not make another functional one.
@@AndyR1982 I guess I'm assuming that something that sophisticated would have taken iterations and that those iterations as well as the plans for the final product would be in his computers, which I assume now would be the property of Starfleet. It's not conceivable to design something that complex without the aid of, if not a computer, at least a pen and paper (or just some PADD), especially if there was intent to build a second for lore later on. It shouldn't really require reverse engineering at all if it's all on the computers. The point is that it should be perfectly possible to replicate and not singularly unique.
That said, I presume there weren't any plans left to copy at Soong's old lab where they found lore either, so perhaps he has his data encrypted or self destructible. I didn't think about that when I initially posted.
@@_pixelatedsilver2a412
Yeah, you never know. I am no engineering genius so its hard to guess what he did. I am however a mechanical/electronic/hydraulic technician, and i have been in a pinch to get machines running sometimeswithout the correct parts. And when it is said and done, and i get asked how i got it running. There have been times i look at the person asking and say i have no idea how i made it work, and it really shouldnt be... but it is.
Could be the same with the chip lol
In all fairness, when dealing with nanotech, any short or failure could permanently fuse circuitry. If the good doctor didn't record as he designed, he's built thousands of these chips in the past. But he had to cobble something together, in late age and low resources. Everything counted, but instinct built the chip. But age and time, he may not have recorded it properly. But now Data is aware he can be heavily altered with a proper part. He's used his parts for other things after all and they were properly modified and restored or replicated. But what if the chip was bad? Would Data turn out like Lore? Would he go rogue and go killing? This was a blessing in design for Data. Lore thought he could make a mistake and he obviously did, because Lore had much more emotion than Data did. And those parts of neurocircuitry look similar betwen the 2, so he should be able to spot the differences in what he built. But he didn't, Lore was right. But he was also wrong in what he did. Today Data have learned many things about the human condition and his own creation in this course of events, Stardate 2367
"Often Wrong" was wrong *again.*
Ah! That Dinosaur 3:34. It glows in the dark!
Best 3 mins of Brent Spiner
Hmm woah, makes me want to watch the full episode ^^
For a second I thought Lore was singing the McDonalds theme as he peeled his nail back for the secret transporter button.
Give me the beans God dammit! POUR THEM DOWN MY THROAT!
You will put them on toast like a civilized Englishman and you will like it!
I always wished they had kept Lore around, he would have made a great villain for a TNG movie.
In my head-canon where ST: Picard is a good show the actual plot revolves around finding the dismantled Lore and putting Data's archived memory from B4 into him. Fundamentally making Lore and Data one individual and reconciling the differences the brothers had as one, like basically Lore being closer to being human goes through an arc of learning to be like his brother. I don't know if Brent is really up for being Data/Lore for another series so they could've just had a "And then Data/Lore left to space to make-up for all the damages Lore had wrought." at the end.
@@mistermeow527 Considering that Mr. Spiner is no longer a young man, it would be asking a lot of him to play both Data and Lore again. I'm sure it was tough enough the first time since he didn't have an identical twin brother who could act as well as him.
2:32 me waking up, one particular morning at age 13.
Lore's such an interesting character! I absolutely love how Brent Spiner's performance makes you want to dispise Lore for his backstabbing and deception, but at the same time you can't help but love him for how charismatically insane he is! Just listen to him sing!
brilliant episode!
It's great they brought back Brent Spiner to play Lore! 😁
Soong could've made a second one...but he needed more beans
Soong: _Lore, where have you bean? I will make chip that make you potato like Data._
maybe he just didnt have the required materials for more than one chip? Data and Lore are very similar on the outside but as Lore said.. Data wasn't made with substandard parts.. maybe he just didn't have all the stuff he needed to perfectly remake data, in Lore, just as the chip.
Maybe, but the thing I never got was, where are the all the notes and technical designs of the chip? If Data had those, he could have possibly made a new chip for himself. It seems weird that at Soong's advanced age he would kept all the work on the chip in his head.
@@tboneforreal he likely wanted to ensure that no one else could copy and steal his work before he could finish perfecting it.
Transporters made a molecules constructed copy. Literally just copy the chip while Lore is clones via that method. Worked on Riker after all!
Lore is the evil identical twin sibling.
“Data, how you feeling?”
"Esau," said Dr Soong, as in the story of Jacob and Esau.
I'm not in favour of Religion being taught in school, but Mythology that shaped the Western canon should be taught, along with the Trojan Horse, and a number of others.
When he woke up I knew he was lore
Lore - the android version of Loki
If I see him in Star Trek Picard Season 3 *as THIS character, I will be impressed*
That might be asking a lot since Mr. Spiner isn't exactly a young man anymore.
Ahh, the culmination of my life's work. The basic emotion chip. It's a simple procedure... Eh, takin a nap first.
It was this moment that Soong realized he F-ed up!
The title should read "The sons of the Prophet were BRAVE MEN and bold"
0:50
I always found Lore to be a bit too "evil villain," even in later episodes. This episode is the only one to explore why he feels the way he does--I even believe him when he's upset to find out Soong is dying and clearly jealous of Data being made after him. Then Lore deactivated Data, so why not kill him? Why just shut him off? He even took the time to dress him. This shows more complex character motives than "evil twin."
You can tell what's going to happen *from the video thumbnail, joy.*
I wish they had more episodes with Lore and Data
They probably would if Mr. Spiner actually had an identical twin brother who could act as well as him so that he didn't have to play both parts. I'd imagine that be pretty tiring after a while.
"There was only one chip."
"One? Are you sure?"
"Yes. They called it... Pillar of Lore-tumn."
What is the song Lore is singing?
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I am not less bean than Lore. I am not less bean than Lore.
"i Am NoT lEsS bEaN tHaN lOrE"
That's not a problem, Doc. You can get another chip. Just contact The Cowboy.
Innerspace 1987. Now who played the Cowboy?
@@seanstoyroom7274 Wak! I mean, Robert Picardo, Mister Paris.
Don't Data and Lore have different positronic brains? Wouldn't Soong have seen that it was Lore as soon as he opened Lore's head to install the chip?
Exactly! I can get it if another scientist didn't know but Soong created Data and Lore. He should have been able to tell the difference!
@@Elly3981 I agree. In the same episode where the scientist explains how different these robots are on the inside, we then see him mixing them up while working on the insides of one of them. He should have instantly recognized the wiring and circuits were different the second he looked inside. Over all, it's just moronic.
This is one of the many reasons why I prefer the original "Star Trek" series, it had way less "Plot Holes". To be clear, it did have one or two. However, "The Next Generation" trumps it in number of "Plot Holes", flaws, and inconsistencies.
How did Lore get the upper hand on Data?
this is why you add serial numbers
Demanding
Brent is great at kicking his own ass
I wonder if Liquid Snake was inspired by Lore.
Abduuulllllllaaa boo boo Amiiir
why not use the ship's replicator to make another chip?
Why didn’t data just get the design plans and make a chip himself
How could he not tell Data from Lore? They have completely different facial expressions, most would be able to tell at a glance.
Lore acted like Data.
@@Dowlphin Still, you would think that Soong would figure it out once he opened up Lore to install the chip. Data and Lore have different programing so they might look different on the inside as well.
Maybe not at a glance since Lore can act like Data to fool others but should have been possible once Soong opened him up to install the emotion chip.
Captain Pickard! Captain Pickard!
So what is the title of this song anyway?
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@@tjwparso Merci Beaucoup, old chap.
Well, he really did put one over on Offenrong, didn't he?
I wish Dr Soong could've met his granddaughters.=(
2:37
Why didn't B4 also return to Dr Soong?
I thought data would be heavy
There were inconsistent indications of that. Understandable that he would appear quite heavy sometimes.
Paklet ship has a transporter?
Maybe, or maybe he had switched ships by then.
@@Dowlphin You Sir are a quite prolific commentator!
did soong die?
He was dying, no official confirmation though
@@tjwparso Yes he died here.
@@aznsbd when was that confirmed? Data says goodbye... then?
@@tjwparso Data told Juliana Tainer as such in "Inheritance"
@@tjwparsoMemory Alpha states that he dies 2367, on Terlina III same year as the episode. Memory Alpha states that Soong was murdered by Lore.
The question is: was it the emotion chip that made him attack his father or was it his evil nature?
The chip probably made Lore more insane than he already was.
Why did Lore wanted that chip?
It's same as before
He use verbal contractions three times, he said isn't doesn't & let's his creator should have known that is not data
Think Lore's kind of like the oldest child in family. Kind of feel bad for Lore Sung should had fixed him
I wish they had a better way to access their parts. I hate the thumbnail parts !
What's with the beans?
🎶 I LOVE BEANS 🎶 🖖
A Klingon transporter.
This is kind of stupid.... Data has gone rogue, caused havoc on the ship, shut down life support on the bridge, re-routed the ship, endangered a little boy's life, and possibly (from the looks of things) thrown an old man across a room, but when Worf carries his body out, Riker just automatically turns him on like "Im sure he's done causing chaos or being controlled by outside forces now!"
Milagro bean field thief.
He stole Brak's song, I love beans.
Where's data? Nice try often wrong nice try.
The thumbnail kinda spoils the big reveal. Or it would, if these clips weren't almost exclusively watched by nostalgic Trekkie boomers & Gen-X'ers (NextGen-X'ers?).
I think you're forgetting how old Millennials are :P
Im 24, And have watched all of TNG multiples times :P, Its complex, with drama, but no booming music or annoyance.
@@pennygadget7328 Yeah, pretty much. Hey, perhaps you can show me the age range of Millennials on your computer book?
@@whocares317 Yeah, for "space opera," the "opera" part is pretty toned down on TNG. But the original series is another matter altogether!