Star Trek: Every Film & TV Show Ranked From Worst To Best
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Ds9 "emissary" helped me through serious depression. "Why do you exist here?" It really helped me heal.
The entire subtext of the show is about PTSD. Like you, I find it incredibly therapeutic.
@@StockportJambo “It’s Only a Paper Moon” is also an amazing episode in this regard.
I took away a similar lesson from that episode as well. Glad to hear that it had a positive impact!
DS9 and specifically "Emissary" have truly aided in my recovery from depression/suicidal tendencies. Knowing it’s done the same for others -especially those who came before me, who made Star Trek more popular ➡️ available to me -brings me tremendous joy.
Ds9 was awesome.
First Contact is still my favorite movie
It's the one I show people who don't know what Star Trek is, they've all loved it.
@@Thechezbailey SAME! I show *Star Trek (2009)* first because it’s a bit more “mainstream” and if they like they then *FIRST CONTACT*
Star trek first contact was great star trek 2009. The opening scene always makes me 😢
Picard is a10 hour homage to First Contact
Picard has ended beautifully (so far)
Insurrection is "Low Stakes?"
How many people does it take Seán, before the stakes become high?
A thousand?
Fifty-thousand???
*A million* ?!
*HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES IT TAKE, SEÁN?!*
Right? They’re showing the TNG crew’s really only story that takes place in/about the dominion war and how the Enterprise deals with that, the planet, the people there, starfleet’s treachery, the Son’a… And like you said high stakes with what they should do, and did.
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well done
I like Insurrection very much for that. Picard is a very much by-the-book officer. To have him taking his rank pips off and go "rogue" is a very good example of taking a stand in the face of a higher duty
As a Gen Xer, let me point out that the fans' love of TOS led to all of the Cons operating today (sci fi or otherwise.) Also, had The Wrath of Khan NOT knocked it out of the park, Star Trek would have been finished. For these points, alone, I'd rank them both much higher.
totally agree
I never thought of that. I can’t imagine how people survived the cliffhanger of Best of Both Worlds when it came out
@zqxzqxzqx. You are so right. For TOS to be ranked below Voyager and Prodigy and Lower Decks (which I love) is evidence of a lack of thought put into this list.
@@sarahkinsey5434I can tell you from experience that it was excruciating 😂😂!! I was around 10 or 11, and not knowing about programming schedules, I checked back every day for months! When I finally caught that season premiere...🤯
What do you expect; the guy narrating this video is clearly about 12 years old, and also a complete idiot.
Placing Lower Decks higher than Khan is pretty egregious.
"Data aging out of the role" never made sense to me since it was established in TNG that Data could set his body to "simulate" an aging appearance so as to be able to "fit in" better with the living individuals he associated with.
Appearance isn't the issue. No matter what Data looks like he's still an android with superhuman strength and reflexes and endurance. Brent Spiner simply couldn't keep up with the physicality required for the role, and relying on body doubles and cgi only goes so far.
If I'd been writing it and needed to keep Data around, I'd've had his outer skin get almost completely destroyed whilst saving Picard in Nemesis, then replace Spiner with a new actor, with Data explaining that he felt the need to evolve his appearance away from being an imitation of his creator. Whilst Spiner's performance is iconic, as we've seen it's very possible to imitate it and in time the new actor would bring their own spin to the role.
@@andromidius righttttttt.... and I'm sure you think The Rock does his own stunts 😒
@@topogigio7031 Actually he does. Due to his size, it's difficult to find stunt performers that look believable, and, with his background in wrestling, he enjoys "putting on a show" for his fans.
@@Majere613 sorry but not spiner not data
The biggest problem that Mrs and I have with Disco is the focus around Micheal as the hero of all with constant GALAXY HUGE STAKES in every episode. Disco almost drove my wife away from Star Trek as a whole. Thank goodness for other series out there.
That's my main issue with it too. Michael isn't bad, but she's the least interesting character, in my opinion. I keep watching to stay up to date with the stories, but seasons 1 and 2 were the best to me.
I tried to watch Disco. I really, honestly did.
The show is a disaster and I'm surprised it's so high on the list.
The point I finally gave up was in the fourth season. There was some sort of disaster going on and, for once, the bridge crew started working together to come up with a solution that didn't involve Michael. Then Saru talks up and says to just wait because Michael will know what to do. And everyone is just like 'Oh yeah, how dare we try to have our own autonomy other than nodding agreeably to Michael'.
It is the only Star Trek I can think of that doesn't have a ship and a crew. It has a main character. And that main character is inconsistent as a character and almost feels like a Fan Fiction insert in terms of characterization.
Hubby and I also hate the way she consistently makes everything about her, among MANY, other things...
Yeah, there are some serious problems with the show. That being said, I think it's ALMOST good. It's sorta like Into Darkness: it's full of little moments that I like, but it contains a handful of problems that are so bad that they sour the whole experience.
I also think the majority of the other bridge officers are after thoughts, because this wasn’t really an ensemble in the same way every other trek show has been. I find a lot of the acting from the bridge crew pretty static and stale.
Going through DS9 now. Seeing again with maturity is like viewing it with new eye. Like it now more than I did when it first aired.
ds9 was my Trek. I grew up in the mid 90s and I was lucky to have DS9 and B5
I envy you! I did the same thing about a decade ago. It's so much better when you can understand the dark and mature themes🖖
I watched it in my 40s and now I'm in my 60s, and it's even more meaningful to me now.
DS9 is my all-time favorite Star Trek show. I forget sometimes just how damn good it was. The multiple layers to the characters, the storytelling, the incredible writing and acting... it's just awesome. I always enjoy rewatching the series, even though I know what is going to happen.
In the Pale Moonlight is like a Star Trek take on House of Cards where Ben Sisko draws the viewer in and makes them a co-conspirator with him like Francis Erquhart.
In the early 2000's, I started a new job. When I met one of my supervisors, he asked me one question: "What is your favorite Trek?" Without hesitation, I replied "DS9." He nodded and said "We'll get along just fine." 20 years and three jobs later, he remains one of my best friends.
great story and the best was the last episode of DS9 season 3 where Sisko becomes Captain
Star Trek Into Darkness will forever hold a special place in my heart as it's the last movie I went to theaters to watch with my sister before she passed
Hold onto that memory.
DS9 has been my favorite since it originally aired. It's something when third tier characters on this show have more growth and development than any main character on any other ST show.
this is my biggest praise of the show i tell people. there are several "tier 3" characters developed and more interesting than main bridge crew of DISCOVERY
When it first aired, I tried to watch it, but couldn't. It just WASN'T Trek. I watched it a few years ago, and today, I believe it's the best.
The fact that Max Grodenchik went from unnamed Ferengi pit boss, to a hardworking Ferengi dad doing his best, to the engineer whose minefield saved the Federation, to Grand Nagus Rom, solely based on the strength of his performance is a testament to good writing and a flexible writing room.
I agree with #1 being DS9. The fact that things were hardly rosey , but grimey to somewhat clean, with sleezes all around made for great viewing!😊
I think you had to have lived through all of the shows in order to appreciate each in its place. I was a riveted 6-year old when TOS premiered on NBC and I have watched the entire progression of the various series and movies in real time. I think this list is not bad; however, I would have rated TOS a bit more highly. Again, you had to be alive and watching television 1966 when TOS came out to fully appreciate what it accomplished within the constraints of the time. I do agree with the #1 ranking of DS9, also appreciate Lower Decks, and would put Voyage Home followed by First Contact as the best Trek movies, yes, even before Wrath of Khan.
I didn't live through the premier of TOS but I lived through the rest of them. That's probably the main reason I rank DS9 lower than in my personal list of likes than any other series of the Berman era. Syndication, depending on where you lived, killed DS9. I vividly remember the beginning of season 6. They aired them all in order up until after favor the bold. Instead of sacrifice of angels they aired rocks and shoals again. Then the next week was a football game or something? And the week after that they aired you are cordially invited. I guess they retook the station? I didn't see sacrifice of angels until the next year. By season 7 I had given up, I couldn't follow the story and they needlessly killed Jadzia.
I would love to be able to erase it from my memory and watch it the way millennials have. Also DS9 is undoubtedly better than voyager and enterprise. But it gets too dark and goes places I'm not overly always comfortable with. Voyager is not the best star trek series by to say the least, but it's the one I watch the most. I love the cast, I love the characters, it never fails to make me smile.
Because of the modern 10 eps a season format, no series will have as many good episodes as DS9. TNG is the first and only time star trek became must see TV while it was in first run, when it was at it's best it was better than DS9, but DS9 didn't have a season as bad as season 7 of TNG, much less season 1 of TNG.
I think growing up on TOS counts, too. I was in college by the time TNG came out. TOS started it all and should be revered.
I’ve always thought you probably had to watch TOS when it first aired to really appreciate it. I feel guilty for not loving it but it’s just too dated for me. I love the characters and movies, but then I could see them when they first came out though.
Excellent! Thinking of the same. I was 20 when it first screened in my area on Sept. 12, 1966. Yes, it does help to see them in their respective 'time zones'. TOS seems kind of clunky, campy at times, certainly with the scantly-cladded 'oh-la-la ladies' with their ridiculous hairdos, all to draw in horny 14-17 year old boys. But TOS was bold, so different from Sci Fi of those days with at times, really interesting with thoughtful themes, plots. To me, Discovery, Picard, and especially Strange New Worlds seems to me to be excessively 'too busy', brashy at times. But, it may/probably resonate to Millennials, Gen Z with their close affinity to tech (not all of them, I know) and brought up in a world very different from my youth. This, I think, might be part of that fabric of 'subjectivism'.
You don't need to have watched TOS when it went out originally to appreciate it
I wasn't born anywhere near the Original run and for me it's right at the top with TNG. Top tier television regardless of time or genre.
I named my kittens George & Gracie.
I might put Voyager a little up to the top but I agree with your list.
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The Original series NUMBER SIXTEEN. THIS IS...... LUDACRIS
I am glad you reminded me that it's a matter of opinion (which you are of course right on) because two choices on and I couldn't disagree more.
My thoughts exactly!
I knew DS9 would be number one; I'm teaching "Far Beyond the Stars" next week! So glad to see Enterprise getting more attention; it is a really great series!
My wife uses "Pale Moonlight" to teach Point of View in her Junior High English class. Cool to know she's the only ones using DS9 to teach!
I never miss an opportunity to remind viewers that "Far Beyond the Stars" is not only a nearly perfect Star Trek episode, but that it is also a nearly perfect Twilight Zone episode. Perhaps you could challenge your students to compare the two series, and discuss how "Far Beyond..." would fit equally well into either of them.
I like it too. Wish they could've continued it in a newer series or a movie. Maybe Jolene and John might agree to either as they don't want to do a series anymore. He might be only 5 yrs. younger than I, but she's 20 yrs. younger and 47 is too young to retire. I miss them all.
@@lucstone7167 Thats awesome and I can see it working so well, you really don't need to know the universe or a lot of backstory to show it to people who have never seen DS9 or Star Trek. I still watch that episode at least once or twice a year.
I agree 100%
Okay, I just discovered this channel today. And I'm hooked. I must say, my favorite part of your rankings are that you don't really dog on any film/series. You name the good to all of it and maybe mention why it was criticized. I appreciate the positivity to this! It's all totally subjective, so I appreciate that no one really tells anyone they are wrong for picking something as a favorite that others may not like as much.
Also: TNG for life. That is all.
That's an admirable position saying we are all allowed our opinions. That is hardly what I usually get told when I say that Discovery and Strange New Worlds finally got me to love Star Trek.
Well, we both ranked TNG 2nd but I think that's as far as the similarities go lol. We have very different lists - which is why it is great to have so many different series as there is something for everyone. I started to check out the article, but then I saw Prodigy was 24th and checked out right there.
I can't say I've ever considered ranking the films and shows in the same list before; they are such different formats it's like comparing apples and oranges.
Totally agree that Star Trek has something for everyone. With so much to choose from there are going to be different lists amongst people.
Also I agree with the fact that you don't rank series and films on the same list.
@@robertszekely8686 agreed, this list is far from mine.
No mention of Galaxy Quest?
Enterprise starting to get the recognition it deserves! Vindication!
Much like the Starwars prequels. It's only after a decade or more that you realize it's far from being as bad as you thought.
There's still some annoying parts/episodes/characters, but the series as a whole is really good.
The 4th season was spectacular (I was not into the Xindi thing, and since it was the story of the whole season, I got tired and stop watching... Until last year and WOW).
The planned 5th season with the revamped Enterprise looked pretty good.
It should be number one on the list!
@@PaulFagundes Doesn’t Enterprise literally have the WORST final episode of any Star Trek series?
@@mapleflag6518 Absolutely. I've viewed the entire run numerous times, but can't bear to rewatch even one second of the catastrophic finale! Most heinous were the gratuitous killing off of Trip, and then the unwelcome hijacking of the episode by the pompous TNG characters.
@@PaulFagundes The final episode is what prevents Enterprise from being #1
DS9 is the best, definitely neck and neck with TNG. Happy to see people are liking voyager more these days. Also really appreciate your take on the newer shows/films
Urgh not like ds9
The genius of DS9 is that it's different. Whilst I love most of trek (including disco, I can look past the teary bit and enjoy 10C as an extragalactric high-on-karadshev scale non-humanoid civilisation). DS9 didn't just have a great cast and characters, but it also made you think. Everything was relatable. The cardassians as a resource-poor nation that out of pure desperation goes to war, gets knocked down, but instead of getting "past" itself and getting help, there's elements that seek back former glory. The cardassians are a tragic people, beautifully written. Even Dukat, while obviously insane at the end (but with a reason) is relatable. The Dominion is another beast. The fact that their power is introduced by blowing up something equivalent to a hero ship is scary. But the revelation of who is behind the Dominion, and why they do it, ties back beautifully to some of the main characters. Even the Section31/Romulans are very nicely interwoven. Whilst Rodenberry would probably disagree on some of it, even he can't deny himself a few 'badmirals' once in a while. So all things considered... DS9's morally gray starfleet ánd federation are great, as it feeds back into the fear the founders have. The only thing I wish had a bit more fleshing out and feedback is the whole prophets-thing. Wish we would've known more of them. Who they were/are, their nature, etc... Guess I'm too much Dax-like to just accept that they "are of bajor".
I’m confused. Sean said that Nemesis was the weakest TNG film but why was it listed higher than Insurrection?
I wondered about that myself. Imo Nemesis belongs at the bottom of the list.
@@jasontoddman7265 The only reason to watch Nemesis is the Battle of the Bassen Rift, and the ship battles in Insurrection were a lot weaker in comparison. Without that sequence, Nemesis should drop below Insurrection.
@@bjorn00000 Imo neither is much better or worse than the other. I think my biggest beef with Nemesis -besides the tired old plot of someone seeking revenge for some (imagined) slight and/or something from the past coming back to butt the heroes in the behind (which seems true of every other Trek movie as well; especially the 2009 Trek and its sequels) - is the fact that Picard acts so out of character in this movie. The whole Shinzon/Scimitar thing just comes out of left field with no logical explanation as well... major flaws the 2009 reboot has as well but somehow pulls off rather better.
Discovery almost killed my love for star trek as a whole. Lower decks brought me back.
right?! i assumed it'd be other way around and yet Lower Decks is amazing and DIS is trash
Yeah, while I prefer TNG over TOS, all this stuff trying to "remake" the TOS era is bullshit, the changes in the tech, retconning in bullshit in a pathetic attempt to make a wholey disliked character feel more important by "connecting" them to a existing iconic character. Like ok I get that people can make the excuse of "b-but the technology of TOS isn't "futuristic" enough now" dude the Enterprise was told to F off into the depths of unknown space for 5 years, it makes sense they wouldn't use bleeding edge technology and would choose to rely on more tried and tested and more rebust and reliable tech to do that. If they wanna do more stuff in the original timeline, they got the unexplored Enterprise 1701-B and 1701-C
100% agree!
I'm in the opposite camp. I like disco. Just gotta watch it knowing it's not classic trek. I just can't take a cartoon seriously. I desperately want a new show taking place after ds9 and voy with an all new crew.
@@PeeNile I would also like to see that show
With honourable mentions to Galaxy Quest and The Orville (esp season 3)!
So glad to see Lower Decks so far up the list. That show is just a blast and fun to watch. Agree with your top choice Deep Space 9 is the best.
I totally second that!
Think you should have included Galaxy Quest in this list, arguably a great Star Trek movie
Agreed! Though if we did that, I’d also argue for including Orville. :)
The only mistake is to put the original series so low and below Discovery.
Discovery is my favorite Star Trek show. TOS is overrated
Yeah, TOS certainly doesn't hold up as well today but Discovery is straight up piss.
Discovery is an unbearable soap opera with even thinner plot.
The Discovery series is by far my least favorite series in Star Trek. If I watch that ship spinning after plugging into one of its crew members, I am going to scream. Bottom of the list for me.
Pretty massive mistake.
I think Nemesis gets a bad wrap...I really liked it. Where as I think that Star Trek 4 The Voyage Home gets sooo much love. I like it but not as much as most.
100% agree about Nemesis. It's one of my favorites.
I'll join in here. Me too.
Nemesis is underrated, especially if you like space battles.
TVH getting placed above TWOK is really wild to me, it's super clear that TWOK is by far the best of the movies.
I do agree with his placing I2D down so far; even being kind of a cumberbatch stan from his work on Sherlock. It wasn't a great idea to try and rewrite the best of the TOS movies even though I felt cumberbatch was effective in his role as khan, he definately knew how to play that insidious genius part perfect though.
I really appreciate Nemesis. I'm glad they did it so Insurrection wouldn't be the last Next Gen movie
Don't agree with all of them but I loved seeing the Voyage Home ranked so high. Great work as always Sean.
Woah… you put Wrath of Khan & First Contact below Undiscovered Country and Voyage Home?? WHAT?? You’re out of your mind, Sean. OUT OF YOUR MIND
Wow, putting Prodigy above First Contact?
I think I need to finally give that show a watch
I just watched it. The first season is much better than I expected it to be. You basically have to get through the first four or five episodes and the rest of the season is really engaging.
It's the beauty of trek that I can think disco is the low point of trek, but that at the end of the day we all just want more trek. What a universe
I have been a Star Trek fan for forever and I’m just now seeing this channel! Pure good 😊
You're in for a treat! :)
Beyond was the best Spock and Bones back and forth since TOS
I've never understood the hate for Insurrection. The fact that it is like a long episode of TNG is why I like it. Personally, I have no problem with the diversity of Discovery, rather that they make such a big deal about it as if it's new to Star Trek. Here is my list from Worst to Best:
Discovery
Picard
Into Darkness
Short Treks
Nemesis
The Final Frontier
2009
TAS
Generations
Beyond
TMP
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The Search for Spock
Strange New Worlds (may go higher)
Undiscovered Country
Prodigy (may go higher)
Lower Decks
Insurrection
Voyager (could benefit from character growth)
The Voyage Home (whales!)
Enterprise (So much untapped potential)
TOS
Wrath of Kahn
DS9 (The Characters! But last 2 seasons dragged for me, depsite good stories)
First Contact
TNG (The Stories!)
How are they making a big deal out of it?
I don’t like insurrection because it’s quite frankly just dull. it’s the most boring movie of the franchise.
@@KainsAddiction Who?
And you haven't answered my actual question. You just restated your claim. Can you substantiate it?
@@KainsAddiction Again, who?
So I can give an actual shit about your opinion.
@@KainsAddiction Watch "!Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" from TOS and tell me all about how the older series "diversity" wasn't in your face or pushing an agenda. I'll wait.
And fun little side note the latest episode of CSI Vegas has Robert Picardo in it
-eats popcorn- just here to see people argue
I loved in the Mad Magazine spoof of Voyage Home, where the whales George & Gracie were renamed John & Yoko.
Prodigy is the true sleeper of the franchise, IMO, and every episode of the back half has made the show better and better. It is THE one of the five series currently on air (Nov 2022) that leaves me with awe and wonder and joy and makes me feel the way the older series did in the 90s when *I* was a kid.
I know some "serious" fans automatically want to skip it because it's targeted more towards general and family audiences (note: this is NOT a "kid show", heck, there are some moments in their Borg ep that rival even their most horrifying TNG/First Contact/VOY depictions) - the first few episodes are rough around the edges, almost somewhat deliberately, but if you can survive S1 of any other Trek, the first few eps of Prodigy are a breeze comparatively. Everything from the Kobayashi Maru onwards is sheer brilliance, and Time Amok is probably the best time shenanigans AND best disaster episode that *any* Trek series has done
I too was skeptical about how Prodigy was going to approach that age bracket, either swing low and be mind-numbingly dull or swing high to be relatively enjoyable by just about any age. I'd ignored the Star Wars animated series for a long time due to the same fear that they'd low-balled the writing like Phantom Menace. When even some adults who didn't have children suggested giving Clone Wars a go, I did. It started off a bit weak but got stronger over the seasons and finished as a damn fine show. Luckily Prodigy took more than a few notes from their approach to storytelling for a broad audience. It started off fairly strong out of the gate and just gets better. Sure, the writing isn't Shakespeare, but solid storytelling doesn't require flowery prose.
Prodigy doesn’t get nearly the attention it deserves…
I have yet to see it - Paramount plus went on air today in Germany, and I'm starting with Strange new worlds. I'm not sure if I should look forward to see one of my least favorite main cast member of all times again - yes, I mean Chakotay. And I'm not a big Janeway fan either. hope the new ones carry it.
@@PmmGarak it’s better than Picard, if that means anything to you
I started reading this comment and misunderstood the first sentence to seem like it was saying prodigy was the one of the least interesting/worst of the 5 new series so far, and as I felt my blood boiling and teeth getting tight I read on and realized it had actually said it had gone under appreciated among the newest 5 and was really very good. I relaxed and found delight as I read the rest I the comment.
I totally agree. Prodigy is great! 👍
Goodness, this list is all over the place.
I agree with DS9 being #1.
It has everything you'd want in a ST show.
Thank you for uplifting "Enterprise", Seán. It's my 2nd favourite "Star Trek" series. "TOS" was my #1 favourite. I want Manny Coto to continue the "Enterprise"'s 5-7th seasons, not Kurtzman or Bergman/Braga. "Strange New Worlds" is better than "Discovery".
Everything's better than Discovery.
Enterprise is awesome
ANYTHING is better than Discovery.
This is a good list, but generational in selection. For my generation, TOS was different than anything on TV. TAS was an awesome taste of what was, and the anticipation of TMP was a cultural event. I'll never forget lining up at the theatre and seeing our heroes and the Enterprise on the big screen for the first time. I feel these three series should rank higher. BTW, DS9's ranking is spot on. Great video.
Your excuse is bias?
Pass.
Exactly. There would be no Star Wars or BSG or Babylon 5 without TOS. Back in the day, the popular shows were Beverly Hillbillies, Manix, I Love Lucy. Star Trek TOS turned on a generation, who went into rocket science because of it.
Yep, they’re subjective… your opinion. Some I agree with & some I don’t. Same with everyone I imagine.
For example, I love Star Trek Into Darkness, & I don’t see it as a remake of Wrath of Khan, because, you know, the whole different timeline thing? 😏
Agreed. Into darkness is absolutely in the top 3 trek movies in my opinion
And I do absolutely agree with Sean that Star Trek IV (aka, the one with the whales 😊) is the most fun of them all!! 😊
Absolutely and well said.
I can't rank the shows and the movies together as they're different animals, with one an outgrowth of the other (unless there's ever a Kelvinverse TV series). But here's mine, from best to worst:
FILMS: Voyage Home, First Contact, Wrath of Khan, Beyond, Search for Spock, Motion Picture (from my formative years as a Trekkie so it gets a lot of leeway with me), Undiscovered Country, Insurrection, 2009, Into Darkness, Generations, Nemesis, Final Frontier
TV: Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Deep Space Nine (a 3-way tie with those), Next Generation and Original Series (also pretty much tied), Discovery, Animated, Prodigy, Enterprise ,Voyager, Picard. Can't really count Short Treks as it doesn't feel like a TV series but rather a series of shorts, like the MCU One-Shot short films, and they feel like a thing all to themselves or at least should be broken up as extensions of the above listed shows.
I love them all, but not all equally. Voyager, Picard and Enterprise have great episodes and frustrating episodes. Discovery's Klingons look awful. Generations and Insurrection have good stuff but have weird issues galore, 2009 took 3 viewings before I could decide if I liked it. Into Darkness was good but really didn't need to be made. Nemesis has good stuff but was mostly relentlessly and depressingly grim in tone. And Final Frontier... some good things, sure, but I gotta be in the right mood to watch it because, yeah, it's bad as a whole.
I totally appreciate Garek being the last name mentioned in this video... BUT, never mentioning Weyoon? 😞 tsk tsk
Weyoon was an AWESOME character....
When my brothers and I first heard about a new Star Trek series (TNG) we were ecstatic. Then we heard the main character (of course the captain) was being played by a British stage actor known for Shakesperian roles, we deflated and figured it would be cancelled before a full season. Oh how glad I am we were so wrong. Kudos Patrick Stewart and the rest of that cast. Live long and prosper and long live Star Trek.
if it had been typical network TV, TNG would have been cancelled around episode six. Fortunately, we made it past the second season where the writers were no longer bound and gagged by Rodenberry. He was a visionary, but not a writer. That said, I always loved the original series despite being hokey and preachy.
I like Stewart and liked him as Picard .. a very good actor, as times brilliant. But, 'French' with a perfect 'received' British accent? ... never warmed up fully to that. Would have made more sense if he just 'remained' British and write him as he is ... from Yorkshire roots.
@@josepha.r5839 Stewart was asked to do a French accent, as well as wear a toupee, nether of which worked out. I like yo think that young Jean Luc spent his formative years at a boarding school in England, hence the accent.
This is a very brave thing to post!
Oh good, what I want is at the top that's me satisfied 😂
Couple notes. First, on The Animated Series: I found myself enjoying it way more listening to it as a radio drama with some visuals -- honestly the storytelling is pretty tight and approaching it that way gets around the dated animation. I actually enjoy it as much or more than TOS this way.
Second, on Lower Decks: my sister (who is also a big Star Trek fan) and her husband (who is not very familiar with the franchise) both watch Lower Decks together. And, honestly it appears to hold up well even if you don't catch any of the deep references. I really think they balanced things right in that one. (It also gives them something to talk about after each ep.)
Third, on Picard and Discovery both: I enjoy them quite a bit, but the main thing offputting is how their serialized and tense nature made it very hard to differentiate one episode from the next (surprising since I loved the arcs in DS9 so much, but even during theDominion War there was time for a friendly game of baseball).
I finally began watching Animated Series after many years of, basically, rejecting it because it's animation. However, I decided to view them and imagine how the themes/plots could have been/be developed to longer, more thoughtful full series episodes that TOS could have done. I would have liked Dorothy Fontana to write them.
My favorite Star Trek time period was the early 1980s movie period so #1 for me will always be "Wrath of Khan "
The worst for me was "Discovery" simply because of the original time period it was set in (approx 9 years pre TOS) and it spit in the face of continuity of what that time period was supposed to look like.
It would have been so much better if it was set around same time as Pricard.
discovery is a no go for me because of wacky writing and truly forced diversity. im ok with diversity, but it should be, as anything in art, a tool of storytelling and not a reflection of real-life agenda. look at The Magicians: there are a ton of diverse characters, but they are so well blent into the story, you cant even differ them from the others.
I see why you chose as you did. I still think Strange New Worlds needed to be higher on the list, but #5 is still really good. Also, Prodigy needed to be higher. I think people see it as a kids show and therefore isn't as great Star Trek, but I think it is more like movie Toy Story. It has levels to it that reach out to many levels of Star Trek viewing.
The Way of the Warrior on DS9 being mentioned, and you show my hands down favorite Kira scene where she gets shanked by a Klingon, then takes the knife and cancels the fool who stabbed her. Epic moment of badassery.
Voyager is my favorite of the Berman shows.
I think my bias stems from the fact that "Lost in Space" was one of my childhood favorites.
DS9 is very much my favourite. currently reaching the end of season 6 on a full re-watch. I felt it had the most complete set of characters, and they all had a fair share of episodes, no cardboard cut outs here. Plus the supporting characters, action, and the list goes on.
Didn’t know which way it was gunna go. I think I agree. DS9 is pretty flawless after season 1, although it wouldn’t have been that way without TNG.
its my favorite too!
if they hadn't killed Jadzia off and then ignored her completely in the retrospective...still my favorite series, but that was stupid
I had no idea, they allowed the staff of TrekCulture to smoke "crack" while making lists? Interesting choice.
#22 Gazelle Automations that you did an interview video with knocked it out of the quadrant with their homage clips of modern Trek in that 70' style.
I would absolutely put TOS above Prodigy and Discovery. Otherwise, a good set of rankings.
I like your list Sean. Couple I would move around perhaps, but agree with most of it. All fair opinions.
Great list! Don’t agree with every choice, but it’s well thought out. I would have trouble comparing the series to the movies, so if I were to make a list I’d probably have one list for series and a separate list for movies.
Great list and video! I only have to put The Search For Spock higher, that one is just plain fun all-around.
Okay, you got the #1 spot correct but a rating Prodigy as high as you did shocked me-I watched several episodes and it was not geared at me (I’m 62, which maybe the reason why). Lower Decks has a few good episodes but the dialogue is so fast paced-it’s hard to track (again, I’m 62). THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER GREAT VIDEO.
Agree with you about Prodigy, but think that's me rather than it. Same with Lower Decks, which I love, but is unwatchable without subtitles for me.
TOS ranked lower than 2009 Kelvin? No. Just no.
Good list. I would put Star Trek Enterprise higher than Voyager. I love Janeway, but a lot of the writing was mediocre. I loved Enterprise from start to finish. I was devastated when it ended. I think the last episode, though not perfect, gets dumped on way too much
Thank you so much for ranking Voyager highly because I love that show and defend it at every chance I get
Ds9 was my favorite story wise.
same here
Solid list. I’d rank First Contact a bit higher, and I suspect a few seasons from now SNW will rank higher.
I was pleased to see Undiscovered Country ranked above Khan - it’s usually under-rated.
Good call, I think that too.
Khan is a great campy action film, but Undiscovered Country had gravitas and was altogether a better film for me.
It's rare that your list and my list should be so different from each other, Sèan! Very interesting to hear your opinions, of course; it's mostly a question of different priorities, I suppose, rather than directly disagreeing with any of the points you make.
I’m with you. I would have a hard time picking which should be one and two out of the same two you did. Tng and ds9 were my faves
I have to say, I enjoy the older series' like DS9 and Voyager, because, back when they were in production, CGI wasn't nearly what it is now, and they depended on ACTING. The newer shows, like Discovery, SNW, and Picard, rely heavily on CGI. While I'm not against it at ALL, I do enjoy the older series' because of the actual acting that had to take place. Does that make sense to anyone but me?
not at all. I've actually been wondering lately why I can watch TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT repeatedly, but I haven't had that urge for DISCO. You may have nailed the reason. The story-telling is going a little flat. It seems that SNW is turning that around and I hope they stay the course.
One problem I had with Disco was the Season 1-3 uniforms. The sequins down the side just seemed to not look like a military uniform. They still bug me.
If you look close the sequins are tiny Starfleet symbols (Yeah, I know that probably doesn't help)
@@Animaniac0451 yes, I was aware of that, but it still seems too gaudy for a military uniform. I was going to say it was gaudy like a disco ball, but it is DISCOvery!
@@YoSpiff *applause*
On another note tho, I love the Discovery uniform's boots.
Even though I would place some shows/films in different order, I agree with most of your list. I haven't seen some of the most recent shows, but seeing this list makes me feel absolutely in awe with how extensive Star Trek is as a whole.
Some day, I hope, I'm going to watch all of it in this order, starting with "share your pain" in Star Trek The Final Frontier and ending with the camera pulling away from DS9 in What You Leave Behind. It's going to be absolutely awesome 😁
You got the right answer for #1 and that’s all that matters. 😁 Good Job! 🖖
If you broke out the episodes, the Animated Series definitely had some excellent episodes. Not to mention, Larry Niven wrote the Slaver Weapon (my favorite episode). He tried tie his Man-Kzin wars into Star Trek.
I tend to listen to them as radio plays and don't watch the animation.
D C Fontana wrote Yesteryear.
I am glad you included the animated series. Granted it was poor animation and only half hour shows, but within those limitations it did very well. Spock's mild romance I found much more convincing that implied future sex. My favorite Star Trek of all time after emoting about it? The animated "Yesteryear" where an older Spock meets a young Spock when he was a child.
Yesteryear is a truly great episode, not only of TAS, but of all Trek. It won’t nudge out most of the other truly great episodes of DS9 or TNG (or now, SNW), for me, but it deserves to be mentioned in any list of great Trek episodes.
Thanks for sharing this, much appreciated ❤.
So far I agree with you 100%.
I think that the casting for the 2009 film was incredibly well done.
The voice inflection of the actor playing Bones was spot on. It’s one thing to have someone look like a loved and well known character, but that they are also able to really capture the mannerisms and voice intonations is wonderful.
That said, I thought that the Scotty character was a bit too thin, but yes, regardless it was really well done.
Not an easy cast to recreate and with the size of the fandom...could have gone horribly wrong.
When it came out, I remember being so nervous about watching it. I just didn’t want to be disappointed and the stakes we incredibly high.
I must have asked a dozen people for their opinion (sans spoilers) before I watched it 😂
anyway, thanks again for sharing your thoughts and take care.
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First contact borg were terrifying and the Queen with her entrance.....gahhhh😳
I agree on the casting - that's why I found it so depressing that the story didn't work for me at all. Most of all I never could wrap my head around Kelvin-Spock befriending Kelvin-Kirk just because Prime-Spock said so. That's just not how friendship and trust work.
And the casting was the only good thing about the Kelvin Lens Flare Verse.
Loved this list, Sean! Thanks for sharing.
Though, I’m a bit perplexed by your interpretation that Discovery’s chief criticism is it’s diverse cast.
Sure, Discovery seems to be Trek’s most obvious attempt to “check all the viewership boxes”. But representation is important. It’s how you write those diverse characters that might undermine their importance.
I think Discovery’s biggest problems - and consequently, ones the show never recovered from - are a general lack of thoughtful storytelling and the show’s continued and flagrant disregard for any understanding of what actually made people love episodic Star Trek.
They’re actually the same problems that hurt Picard season 1 & 2.
I'm up to #6 on the list as Voyager. I'm suspecting that, given Seán's affinity for DS9, that DS9 will appear at the top of the list. I rank DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise as my all-time favorites. I'm enjoying Discovery and Strange New Worlds, but Prodigy is still kind of up in the air for me.
*Edit* I can't believe I forgot to mention Lower Decks 🤦♂️ I do love that show!
*Edit 2* I knew DS9 would be at the top LOL
Discovery would definitely be on the bottom of my list, right below ST:TAS. Though, i see they do listen to the fans. So much so, they sent the ship a thousand years in the future, lol.
I think trying to ranking films against television series requires clear criteria that this list didn't have. The 150+ hours of one of thee 90s Trek shows is a very different beast than a movie.
I absolutely loved the Borg Queen played by Annie Wersching in Picard season 3.
Strange New Worlds has a diverse cast and is awesome. DISCO has a diverse cast and is k-rap. It isn't the casting that makes DISCO so awful, it's the everything else.
People arnt annoyed about diversity in Discovery. It's bad writing. Poor acting. And relying on placing characters into emotional crisis as a substitute for meaningful character development. Seriously if they got 1 episode without someone crying it's a surprise
@@beyerdr well said sir
@@beyerdr I disagree, the actors are great. The casting is awesome, it's just poor follow through and writing on interesting concepts. Also, they have no advisors telling them their science stinks.
Indeed, I find it so incredibly frustrating when Discovery defenders lump any and all criticism into the "you just can't handle diversity, lol" category.
No! NOOOOO! (Breaks little ships)
I like Star Trek, therefore I support IDIC, and I am pleased by the often groundbreaking representation in the casts of the many shows over the years.
Discovery is nonsense though. Incongruous, overly dramatic, cheesy, lowest common denominator tripe.
@@brendancaulfield970 agreed on all counts
I love Lower Decks, but I feel that Strange New Worlds should have placed higher. I'm glad SNW, Lower Decks and Prodigy ranked so highly
"Look at where it got to" while showing a bearded Riker was the best bit of this video.
Great fun to do this list for myself. I believe SNW is on par with TNG and VOY, but with better visuals. Everthough you make good points about DS9, the grimmness never got me to fully appreciate it like you do.
For sheer watchability
1. DS9
2. TNG
3. TOS
4. Wrath of Khan
5. ENT
6. VOY
7. Undiscovered Country
8. First Contact
9. Search for Spock
10. Beyond
11. TMP
12. Star Trek ‘09
13. Prodigy
14. Voyage Home
15. Strange New Worlds
16. Lower Decks
17. Generations
18. Star Trek V
19. Animated
20. Insurrection
21. Nemesis
22. Into Darkness
23. Disco
24. Short Treks
25. Picard
I like most of your picks. I think your top ten is good. I may have disagreements with the entire list. Nothing personal, but everyone has their own opinions. 🖖
I agree with your #1 and #2.
The rest - not so much.
@@StockportJambo that's the beauty of star trek. It means different things to different people 🖖🏽
@@robertszekely8686 thanks, we're lucky we have so much to choose from 🖖🏽
@@rafaelsays175 logical 🖖
I grew up with Voyager, and am not too familiar with the other properties. I liked it so it was nice to see it pretty high up on the list :)
Voyager is No 1 for me. I dont like procedural tv shows like TOS and NG, i like tv shows with global story arcs, thats why im a die hard fan of BSG remake and the Voyager.
@angeltensey Voyager is one of least story arc-y Star Treks there are though.
@@Yaapo unintelligable
@angeltensey DS9 had the most story arcs yet you say you don't like it? Voyager was more like TNG and TOS, more episodic and less serial.
@@Yaapo ds 9 is a different thing
Good rankings. I would move a few around, but overall, it's pretty fair.
Watching this and nodding my head, sipping my coffee.... Yes.. I Concur!!
Prof Sean, good list!!
A quick question, not sure if you already have it and I just haven't found it, do you have a top list of Star Trek characters. I know that this would be MORE than 25....lol but not sure if your team have worked on it for a while and still going through debates and after the battle has ended, the last one standing has been able to make the list....
(Minus the fighting though... we're all one big happy family!!! (STEP AWAY FROM THAT WRITING PAD!!!! SISKO IS THE BEST!!!! ) Ok, let me stop before I insite a rebelion within the office...lol)
Have a great day Sir!!
The first time I heard Strange New Worlds' opening theme, it gave me thrills.
The reimagining of the original theme was just incredibly well done.
The return of the Gorn is glorious!
I'll readily accept that TOS doesn't have to be number 1 but 16th does it a great disservice. It is the root of all things Star Trek, after all.
Agreed. I think it should be in the top ten at least.
Prodigy is perhaps the gold standard for kid-friendly entry points to IPs aimed primarily at the over-12s. No oversimplification of it's core values, minimal telling over showing - tho advancements in CGI animation admittedly makes showing anything the writers can imagine easier with every passing year. Bit of a surprise hit TBH.
2 minutes in and I can already tell that Nemesis is way too high on this list.
I've loved Deep Space Nine since it was first released. I've heard so many lambasting the show over the years and I've always defended it. I'm really happy that now decades later, it has been vindicated and people are realizing just how important and GOOD it was.
For a few years I had TNG at top but, after more viewings, I've got DS9 at the top.
Ds9 has always been a favorite of mine and the only one even coming close was lower because of its comedy, but ds9 features war, drama and actually seems the most realistic, it will always stand in my heart
BRILLIANT list Sean
thank you for support!
I'm just happy there are 25 items on this list. And growing!