Great to see the first video on TH-cam by someone who has a fair idea of what they are doing to get longer range internet. I've been building antennas all my life and his collection of products is really nice to see. Great service, Thank you for making the videos.
This had me smiling from ear to ear with excitement. I live in a rural area and I’ve always depended on ATT LTE to provide me with internet. I’ve had many setups in the past and your channel has gotten me excited to learn more on how to really perfect my setup. Man this is like a whole new world for me. Thank you!
Doesn't matter if I need the info or not I always leave your videos learning something new. You explain everything in easy terms and you don't leave out any detail. Love your vids man, you're really helping us out with all the info! Much appriciated! Definitely subscribing! Cheers from Canada
You can run Data Duplex with two antennas on the same frequency but opposite polarization, its amazing 60 db down when you change by 90 degrees. You can also have minature relays that swap polarization remotely, The primary problem is getting a broad band feed horn, which limits the effectivenes of the dish but the products here appear to work well and that's counts.
Where can I purchase one of your Cellular "Sure Call" signal meters and how much do they cost? Also, is there a less expensive meter/ tool / device or way to check the tower location and the signal for an average homeowner who's not gonna be using it for a business every day like you are? I live in rural Russell, Pa at the bottom of a hill and if I go up the hill approx 150yds, I can get a strong signal from both Verizon and AT&T but back down the hill at my house, we're forced to stand at only one window anytime we even hope to get one bar on our phones! I also wanted to know if I send you my exact street address, if you could pull us up using your map info to determine if there's any hope of us ever converting from Satellite to Cellular internet and how to determine our elevation opposed to the elevation difference at the top of the hill? Thank you for your very interesting informative practical help videos!
I see what your doing.... I know you are on the right path.... and I support you 100... but my questions come from... you moved your tripod how far, why did you move it? At some point I will not get signal..I can’t just move my rv 10 feet or 10000 feet... you should have kept it there and shown what you could do for the people in the sticks ... or in an odd place
So this would ne more powerful than mimo antenna?just wanna know, i bought m1 nighhawk, i live in a country side, and it did little to no difference, so i'm wondering which antenna should i get mimo or this more advanced stuff??
I am new to this but where I am moving I need more options. So currently I would like to try a mofi setup. I am looking at Wirengs But I am not sure if they will cut it. As far as I know, there is no service or bars at the house I am about to move into. However, att say they cover out that way, but I know my realtor had no service on his Verizon. But the nearest tower I see is an att and its anywhere from 12 to 14 miles out. Is there a miracle antenna that can handle that with a mofi?. I just need to know what's up before I buy all these things and it may not even work. But I am willing to take the risk over satellite lol. Please help.
My current yagi antenna is rated for 3-5 miles. Signal booster isn't too bad. However, the cell towers I'm connected to are 7-10 miles away. Can an antenna reach that? Am I able to get fixed wireless with that distance and poor cell service outside of the signal booster? Thanks.
I've got a Nighthawk LAX20 trying to use it with Verizon out in the deep woods. Tower is about 2.2 miles away but uphill and through old growth forest. I see -73 to -85 but when I monitor the connection it resets every 5-20 secs which creates all sorts of havoc with video calls and Airplay (Nighthawk kills the Airplay connection when it losing cell connection). Would the grid antenna stop the drops? Thanks!
What kind of setup do you offer for someone new to a Nighthawk MR1100 w/ ATT which will basically be used in RV only? Most places we go have some signal but I gather ATT is prepping for 5g so where I’ve had great signal for years it has dropped significantly in the past year. I also am currently using a Winegard Rayzar antenna on the rig and have the hardware from the older Sensar batwing type antenna. I’ve no idea if either TV antenna can double for cellular if modified. I’m ignorant of antenna technology but have noticed on cloudy days my ATT service goes from 1 or 2 bars to full 4g LTE. Is this due to the waves’ path being effected by cloud ceiling? I learned quite a bit from your vid here. Thanks!
Eric, for RV use it's best to use a 2 of our LP08 antennas. They are small but still quite directional. You would point these like I did in the video to a cell tower. Since you are getting signal from outside + with a stronger antenna, you will see your bars go up by at least 2 on average. As for the weather topic, I am not sure and will need to research more and get back to you.
@@SimpleWiFi I've seen some telescoping masts that I'm considering. Is elevating antenna 25-50ft going to make enough difference a person can justify that expense or is the improvement in signal negligible?
@@ericstyer2890 Yes it makes a huge difference. Especially when it comes to speed. Look into something called the Fresnel Zone on Wiki. When you are far from the tower or in a heavily forested area - getting up helps a lot.
Can you refer me to the best antennas for picking up Band 14 (FirstNet/AT&T)? Your yagi’s all appear to be wide band. Band offers the best connection I can get where I live. With band 14 being in the 700-800Mhz range would a very band specific yagi offer a better gain than a grid? I have the Nighthawk MR1100 (2L model that supports band 14) would adding a booster of some kind between the antenna and hotspot help or hurt?
What is best combination for external antennas for rural connection w 4 x 4 MIMO w Mifi 5055 modem router. I doubt a 4 x4 panel antenna would work? Would 1-4 long range work or 2 long range and 2 Yagi antennas work. There is a 4 x 4 Yagi unit available. What would you recd and most likely need a SureCell signal finder to find the signal/tower. I am 7 miles from 2 tower ATT but I already gave 40 foot pole w one Yagi using Wilson Pro. I have my tower in open area.
I found the Cel-fi X built in "Antenna Position Test" to do even better than the Wilson or the True Call meter Even with the highly directional Bolton 26 dbI gain at the LTE band 2, 4, 5, 13 and 66. In fact it found a signal I was not even aware of and it ended up as the best of the lot in my rural area. You rotate the antenna, to as many as 8 differnt positons and the test holds all 8 for comparion. Find the best then rework the "position test" around the "winner " of the last 8 test. Maybe even again? ... around the best of the 2nd round of tests. A numerical figure is given for easy compraison no wavering dbi reading. Example...98.987, 98.567, 97.896 and 105.456, 103.765 (8 in total) Then take the best (105.456 in this examle) and do the same thing with 8 different psoitions areound it... a little to the left maybe a little to the right and so on. The test does not only look at db gain. The numerical reading is finalized after looking and analyzing the Signal Strength, Signal quality and Signal SNR (about a minute or so) and then comes up with a figure that is sooo soo much easier to align the antenna.. You may not see more bars but when you are getting hit with -53 and even -47 dbi, when it was >113 before you started and even doing video calls ..sometimes SNR is kind of washed under the bus for it's 100db gain. It blow the antennas off of the tower. (figurativley speaking)
Thanks man for your video. I just bought a HiBoost 4K plus pro with the LP8 outdoor antenna. I do believe I have it set up very well, but my issue is I have 3 weak macro towers and I am smack dab in the middle of all of them. Although I have the outdoor LP8 antenna pointed at the best signal tower, my phone switches between it and one of the other two. I believe this is happening partially because according to cellmapper it has a cell designated to cover where I live. If I walk on the ground with my phone about 3 to 4 houses down it changes to the other tower to my east. This east direction tower actually has the best inbound signal according to the signal supervisor app that you use with HiBoost, but my phone won't lock on to it. It is as if the outdoor antenna is really receiving all 3 towers equally signal wise and it won't draw in enough to lock on to the best signal tower. I am wondering if using a LP12 instead on my setup would do the system far better to pull in the tower I have the actual best signal on. The other one it switches to quite often has a bunch of trees between me and the tower, and there is a wad of trees it has to go thru right beside the antenna. The one to the east has very minimal tree blockage and does better. I am disappointed that it is doing this on the reception. I have been using network cell info for signal readings, but of course their tower locator is brain dead so I use cellmapper for tower locations. without the booster my signal here is never better than -110, and usually -115 to -120 and I do drop calls. With the HiBoost it does do better, about -100 to -85 and mostly in the mid to upper 90's. With or without the booster I do see considerable fluctuations up and down. Those numbers to me are not extremely impressive, but it should keep me from dropping calls. In the home I have the main unit facing due east and the other internal antenna due west for best coverage. No issues at all with any kind of feetback. My antenna is 25' up in the air and about 10' above the top of my metal roof. Right this very moment I have signal from the east direction tower basically in high 90's, and the other two are very close to the same. If that LP8 were truly directional I should do better on the one it's pointed at. The reflective directional antenna your using that is picky would not be an option in my mind as I do get some wiggle if you will from the 4-5' sections of mast at the height I have it on 24" stand offs. I would love your thoughts on this.
Sir can we use wifi direct to mobile without using any router if we use these antennas if not then what to do for providing wifi signals directly to mobile in 1.5 to 2 km area please guide me is it possible?
Ok I have a question. I stream my sons baseball games from a GoPro using my phones hotspot. Currently I run a 720p stream at 3.5 Mbps. The feedback from parents is good regarding the stream quality but resolution could be better. I was hoping I could use a set up that I already have built using a 12v automotive battery and a 1500w inverter to power some kind of system to boost my cellular signal to hopefully get to 12-15 Mbps so I can run a 1080p stream. Budget is a concern but I am very (rednecky)mechanically able, I was hoping to piece something together and use a homemade 12ft antenna pole to for a receiver. Any guidance would be helpful. I am on T-Mobile and believe I am looking for either 700Mhz or 1700/1900 MHz ?????
Where do I get the antenna analyzer and what’s price? Is their a site to find cell tower locations and what frequency they run at? How do I find the list of frequencies my service provider runs at? Like att edge, 3g, 4g/LTE and what maximum speed should be on that service? Say I keep switching between a 3g band and lte band. Is their a war to disable 3g or filter that off the antenna?
I just purchased one of these antenna from you. I have a modi4500 sim4 with AT&T 35$ unlimited SIM card. I have a weboost home 4G booster/repeater. Should I connect this antenna straight to my mofi, excluding the booster? Or should I include the booster? Also please describe the best wiring for your recommended setup. Lastly is there a reason your antennas are at a 45 degree angle? Is there a Benefit to this and if so then does the included bracket allow for a 45 degree setup? Thank you
I would connect these direct to the MoFi using L-400 cable. The cross polarization is -45 & + 45 for each antenna. Give us a call if you have any questions.
SimpleWiFi I would like to know this as well. Does connecting a booster between an antenna like a Grid or Yagi and the hotspot like a Nighthawk MR1100 help or hurt? What are the effects?
Would this work with att wireless internet and home phone? Been thinking about this because I have 2 att towers within 2 miles but there’s so many trees that even a 20 dollar extender is kind of inconsistent
I'm looking to replace my ISP with cellular service. 700 mhz obviously picks up better inside, but is slower. Outside is faster, but picks up 1700/2100. Does that mean I should target 1700/2100 with a directional antenna? How high should I mount the antenna? The crest of my house is about 52 feet in the air. Should I go as high as possible, by mounting a pole against the side of the house, like you would have done with an old TV antenna?
You had good line of sight, I checked with scadacore's website. I want to know what if you don't have good line of sight. What Antenna is best for no line of sight 600-700Mhz. Regarding my situation, LOS is not blocked super bad, at 53ft you could draw a line to the tower's antenna but Fresnel clearance would add to that making it like 95ft. The next closest tower is blocked so bad you'd need to be 850ft above ground for LOS. Should I use a directional antenna still? what kind?? should there be an attempt to still raise it like 25ft?
I'm interested in the NightHawk Yagi antennas, but i'm curious about lightning protection. This thing will be on my roof with a metal pole, so I need to ground it with a lightning arrestor to not have my nighthawk fry in a storm?
I only know a little on these subjects, but with Verizon's new Mifi 8800L with 5th Gen capability (cat 18) will these antenna systems still be able to take FULL advantage of the newer bands and tech?
Yes and no. Right now (Jan 2019) the FCC still has not officially said where the 5g bands will be. However they have hinted strongly at opening up spectrum around 3 and 6GHz as well as some on 600 MHz. In that case for these bands our big antenna will be ready. The current "5G" systems and not truly 5G. It's still the stone ages in regards to the true 5G.
The Nighthawk has 2 antenna ports and is designed to use both ports (MIMO) for the best performance, as I understand. For the grid (or any) type antenna do you use 2 antennas or is there 2 leads on one antenna? I mainly interested in a AT&T cell tower connection.
One port is the "main" and the other is the "aux" - in testing we only saw the Aux help in small amounts. The best ROI is 1 on the main which I think is the left one.
Because of 4G,the WiFi market is becoming smaller and smaller ,but I used it in wireless digital CCTV connection especially with solar panel . The market is much more bigger than only for WiFi service. I had finished a 10km stable connecting project for CCTV
That is a sweeping statement. I believe it may become more popular than ever especially since millions are still paying 5-10 bucks/gig for data. Also, WiFi is being used more and more for cell phone call and text ie Republic and GoogleFi.
Is there any benefit to having the antenna turned at that angle against just having it straight up and down? Which notch in the feedhorn should I use looking for ATT LTE signal?
I just bought a parabolic antenna, MOFI 4500 router and a celfi-gox booster.I am putting up a homemade 100 ft. antenna pole and only want to do it once. On the ground I’m getting around -125 dbi., 1 bar. My question is do I buy another parabolic antenna for Mimo setup and can I run the booster on just one of these antennas setup in mimo configuration or no booster or 2boosters???
Good morning sir,may I ask,is it ok to use mimo antina18dbi And parabolic antinna 24dbi in one modem b525-65a using antinna splitter connector...I hope u can notice... Thank you
@@elevenslevin6782 yeah but it all depends on your area and how far away are other miners I started off with an 8dbi bc others were too far away n now my city is getting more miners n I switched to 6dbi and now I'm getting alot more than the 8dbi
this is so informative! OK here my Situation. I am trying to connect 6 radio fradio frequency hotspots(915mhz). They are about 2 km apart on average with the furthest being 4.5 km and 11km. im currently leaning towards getting a few 13dbi yagi, and point them towards the closest/ largest cluster to 'witness' receive the signal...?
Hey I got a T-Mobile HotSpot the area I stay in no service how can I improve my Hotspot to get better service and also I stayed in a old trailer which you know it's aluminum
My new mobile livestream business depends on strong 4G LTE signal. I had previously planned on getting the 8dbi yagis in MIMO but after this I think I'll go big. I'll be livestreaming from the southern border from my pickup which means I'll have to devise some kind of topper mounted mimo antenna system for these big dishes. They're pricey! I'm mostly concerned with upload speed so the 4g boosters won't help. Both antenna lines will be plugged into the Nighthawk and from there a cat 5 to the router then cat 5 to the PC. I wish they made an in line booster for my nighthawk M1 for MIMO. If you know of such an animal please let me know.
You are headed in the right direction - however like I mentioned before the cell boosters are not MIMO so there's no increase in bandwidth, just overall signal for voice calls to your cell phone. The boost you will see from cross polarization however is usually good enough.
Bit disappointed mate...found this vid looking forward but few technical things to clarify...firstly, cross polarisation and mimo actually is more for urban environment due to the large amount of multipath and fast fading effects, you were in rural, so slower fading more influential, hence space diversity better, the +- 45deg xpolar with the log periodics won't do too much there. That does of course depend on what type of antenna is at the base station, so you can't assume they were xpolar. Secondly, bars on phones etc are not simply based on signal anymore - that was way back in the 2G days. I assume you're recording rssi there... also, no comments on cable losses? Always gets ignored...but 10m of cheap cable can offset the gain of even one if them yagis
Hello. Your information is good. Please guide me to an external antenna, which means to install on the roof of the house for this ocusync 2.0 router for its use of the Dron mini 2. Thank you.
How long can the TS-9 antenna cables be before you get signal fade? Does the nighthawk not have any signal meters at all which would allow for positioning the antennas connected to it? Seems like an oversight on the manufacturers part...
The cables should definitely remain as short as possible. I would say anything over 1-2 ft on that thin cable becomes problematic. I agree with you on the other point.
@@SimpleWiFi I currently only have fixed wireless options on part of my property by providers that use Ubiquiti point to point radios, so I was wondering if I could test the waters on mobile service with a directional antenna. I would want an antenna up as high as possible, probably at least a 30ft cable since I have a metal home and would want the device on a pole outside. Are there any solutions for cable lengths that long?
Hi, i am at 11000 feet above the sea level, my signal tower is at 7000 feet, and from the manual search i can see the signals but when i try to register with them, it fails Will these antennas help me?
My att plan gives advertised 70 mbps with bursts over 100 while I get 20. So I need your spectrum analyzer ....could not find it on ebay. Where do I get one ?
Would I benefit with the 8dbi for an m1 att in Florida, but I’d like to use it on my minivan, will a m1 work better if I had an antenna on top of my roof while traveling and driving around?
Outside the van is definitely the way to go. Since you will be mobile you will want to use omni antennas - but when stationary the directionals are great for when you are far from the tower.
I'm looking at purchasing the blue magic (netgear) this week, which can use multiple towers, The Verizon tower is only a mile from my house. With your antenna, do you make the connection to the blue magic plugging into the 2 ports on the device?
Your video is great. I just bought the nighthawk and want to buy external antenna to mount on my RV ladder. The directional Yagi antenna seems fit. Do you have recommendation of a flag pole so I can mount both antenna on the pole and tie it to the ladder? Thanks. Your price is good too. Similar to amazon. Thank you.
My pleasure - we have the cellular expansion kit on our site. As for a pole - I am sorry but I don't have a recommendation. www.simplewifi.com/collections/hotspot
I am on AT&T with one bar with the Nighthawk M1100 modem. The tower is roughly 5-6 miles from me and it is a band 2,12, and 17. I get 3-4 m down.And sometimes a little less. What would be a good setup for me? Would I have to use two of any of the antennas? Which band would I be getting of the 2,12, and 17? ANd what frequency would it be?
2 directional antennas are ideal, then cross poloarize them on the pole like I did in the video. The device will choose the best band and frequency to use. Sometimes towers will swap between bands depending on the bandwidth in the area. The antennas are wideband which cover the cellular spectrum 700mhz - 2200 mhz.
is it applicable if the tower is none line of sight it is blocked by a big mountain distance is around 5 km from my place there is no signal in my location from philippines thanks
Cool video and nicely price antennas on your site. Not sure I need to go this far yet...but good to know if a parabolic is needed...this is how to do it. So....you mentioned the up and down mbps rates you got while 8 miles out with both setups...which is super useful....but now I'm curious what the throughput was when you were really close to the tower at the end??
What do you recommend, I have an M1 nighthawk, I get about 15-35 mbps, its good, but I want to make it better, I live in a rural area and I'm on ATT Lte
Great to see the first video on TH-cam by someone who has a fair idea of what they are doing to get longer range internet. I've been building antennas all my life and his collection of products is really nice to see. Great service, Thank you for making the videos.
This had me smiling from ear to ear with excitement. I live in a rural area and I’ve always depended on ATT LTE to provide me with internet. I’ve had many setups in the past and your channel has gotten me excited to learn more on how to really perfect my setup. Man this is like a whole new world for me. Thank you!
That's awesome! If you get stuck feel free to contact our support team.
Doesn't matter if I need the info or not I always leave your videos learning something new. You explain everything in easy terms and you don't leave out any detail. Love your vids man, you're really helping us out with all the info! Much appriciated! Definitely subscribing! Cheers from Canada
Man I wish you lived close to me. I need a guy like you that understands all this to hook me up at my rural Georgia home.
Thanks for the tip about cross-polarizing with MIMO systems! 👍
Your welcome!
cheers for showing how you connected the netgear m1 to the aerial
One of the best videos about 4G and 5G antennas.
Your antennas are awesome! We have been installing and reselling them for almost a year now. They out perform other designs by far!
Glad you like them!
Thanks! I ordered one of your parabolic grids two weeks ago and it works lovely.
You can run Data Duplex with two antennas on the same frequency but opposite polarization, its amazing 60 db down when you change by 90 degrees.
You can also have minature relays that swap polarization remotely,
The primary problem is getting a broad band feed horn, which limits the effectivenes
of the dish but the products here appear to work well and that's counts.
Where can I purchase one of your Cellular "Sure Call" signal meters and how much do they cost? Also, is there a less expensive meter/ tool / device or way to check the tower location and the signal for an average homeowner who's not gonna be using it for a business every day like you are? I live in rural Russell, Pa at the bottom of a hill and if I go up the hill approx 150yds, I can get a strong signal from both Verizon and AT&T but back down the hill at my house, we're forced to stand at only one window anytime we even hope to get one bar on our phones! I also wanted to know if I send you my exact street address, if you could pull us up using your map info to determine if there's any hope of us ever converting from Satellite to Cellular internet and how to determine our elevation opposed to the elevation difference at the top of the hill? Thank you for your very interesting informative practical help videos!
I see what your doing.... I know you are on the right path.... and I support you 100... but my questions come from... you moved your tripod how far, why did you move it? At some point I will not get signal..I can’t just move my rv 10 feet or 10000 feet... you should have kept it there and shown what you could do for the people in the sticks ... or in an odd place
So this would ne more powerful than mimo antenna?just wanna know, i bought m1 nighhawk, i live in a country side, and it did little to no difference, so i'm wondering which antenna should i get mimo or this more advanced stuff??
Very nice Video!! Do you have any Counterparts on the Oregon Coast?! I would really appreciate any possible hint from you 🙂 And thank you in advance!!
I am new to this but where I am moving I need more options. So currently I would like to try a mofi setup. I am looking at Wirengs But I am not sure if they will cut it. As far as I know, there is no service or bars at the house I am about to move into. However, att say they cover out that way, but I know my realtor had no service on his Verizon. But the nearest tower I see is an att and its anywhere from 12 to 14 miles out. Is there a miracle antenna that can handle that with a mofi?. I just need to know what's up before I buy all these things and it may not even work. But I am willing to take the risk over satellite lol. Please help.
Does such directional antena should be installed 45 degree even antenna tower is installed 90degree. Is that a real theory? Someone please show me....
My current yagi antenna is rated for 3-5 miles. Signal booster isn't too bad. However, the cell towers I'm connected to are 7-10 miles away. Can an antenna reach that? Am I able to get fixed wireless with that distance and poor cell service outside of the signal booster? Thanks.
I've got a Nighthawk LAX20 trying to use it with Verizon out in the deep woods. Tower is about 2.2 miles away but uphill and through old growth forest. I see -73 to -85 but when I monitor the connection it resets every 5-20 secs which creates all sorts of havoc with video calls and Airplay (Nighthawk kills the Airplay connection when it losing cell connection). Would the grid antenna stop the drops? Thanks!
What kind of setup do you offer for someone new to a Nighthawk MR1100 w/ ATT which will basically be used in RV only? Most places we go have some signal but I gather ATT is prepping for 5g so where I’ve had great signal for years it has dropped significantly in the past year. I also am currently using a Winegard Rayzar antenna on the rig and have the hardware from the older Sensar batwing type antenna. I’ve no idea if either TV antenna can double for cellular if modified. I’m ignorant of antenna technology but have noticed on cloudy days my ATT service goes from 1 or 2 bars to full 4g LTE. Is this due to the waves’ path being effected by cloud ceiling? I learned quite a bit from your vid here. Thanks!
Eric, for RV use it's best to use a 2 of our LP08 antennas. They are small but still quite directional. You would point these like I did in the video to a cell tower. Since you are getting signal from outside + with a stronger antenna, you will see your bars go up by at least 2 on average. As for the weather topic, I am not sure and will need to research more and get back to you.
Any videos showing the LP08s in action? Super helpful
That's coming soon. =)
@@SimpleWiFi I've seen some telescoping masts that I'm considering. Is elevating antenna 25-50ft going to make enough difference a person can justify that expense or is the improvement in signal negligible?
@@ericstyer2890 Yes it makes a huge difference. Especially when it comes to speed. Look into something called the Fresnel Zone on Wiki. When you are far from the tower or in a heavily forested area - getting up helps a lot.
Can you refer me to the best antennas for picking up Band 14 (FirstNet/AT&T)? Your yagi’s all appear to be wide band. Band offers the best connection I can get where I live. With band 14 being in the 700-800Mhz range would a very band specific yagi offer a better gain than a grid? I have the Nighthawk MR1100 (2L model that supports band 14) would adding a booster of some kind between the antenna and hotspot help or hurt?
The parabolic grid in this video works great for that scenario.
What about the Poynting x-pol its sounds really good
TY very much informative video . Just had a question would this work with HNT crypto mining ? 9 Miles apart ? Router to router .
ok so what's the best one for LTE? WE HAVE A CABIN AND THATS WHAT WE NEED.
First cellphone guy video that didn’t make me dumber. Smashed that Subscribe button!
does the landscape of the area impacts the signal just like mountain that are blocking?
What is best combination for external antennas for rural connection w 4 x 4 MIMO w Mifi 5055 modem router. I doubt a 4 x4 panel antenna would work? Would 1-4 long range work or 2 long range and 2 Yagi antennas work. There is a 4 x 4 Yagi unit available. What would you recd and most likely need a SureCell signal finder to find the signal/tower. I am 7 miles from 2 tower ATT but I already gave 40 foot pole w one Yagi using Wilson Pro. I have my tower in open area.
I found the Cel-fi X built in "Antenna Position Test" to do even better than the Wilson or the True Call meter Even with the highly directional Bolton 26 dbI gain at the LTE band 2, 4, 5, 13 and 66. In fact it found a signal I was not even aware of and it ended up as the best of the lot in my rural area.
You rotate the antenna, to as many as 8 differnt positons and the test holds all 8 for comparion. Find the best then rework the "position test" around the "winner " of the last 8 test.
Maybe even again? ... around the best of the 2nd round of tests.
A numerical figure is given for easy compraison no wavering dbi reading. Example...98.987, 98.567, 97.896 and 105.456, 103.765 (8 in total) Then take the best (105.456 in this examle) and do the same thing with 8 different psoitions areound it... a little to the left maybe a little to the right and so on.
The test does not only look at db gain.
The numerical reading is finalized after looking and analyzing the Signal Strength, Signal quality and Signal SNR (about a minute or so) and then comes up with a figure that is sooo soo much easier to align the antenna..
You may not see more bars but when you are getting hit with -53 and even -47 dbi, when it was >113 before you started and even doing video calls ..sometimes SNR is kind of washed under the bus for it's 100db gain. It blow the antennas off of the tower. (figurativley speaking)
Excellent content. One of the best videos on this topic but the background music is loud & intrusive- it interferes with the content.
Thanks man for your video. I just bought a HiBoost 4K plus pro with the LP8 outdoor antenna. I do believe I have it set up very well, but my issue is I have 3 weak macro towers and I am smack dab in the middle of all of them. Although I have the outdoor LP8 antenna pointed at the best signal tower, my phone switches between it and one of the other two. I believe this is happening partially because according to cellmapper it has a cell designated to cover where I live. If I walk on the ground with my phone about 3 to 4 houses down it changes to the other tower to my east. This east direction tower actually has the best inbound signal according to the signal supervisor app that you use with HiBoost, but my phone won't lock on to it. It is as if the outdoor antenna is really receiving all 3 towers equally signal wise and it won't draw in enough to lock on to the best signal tower. I am wondering if using a LP12 instead on my setup would do the system far better to pull in the tower I have the actual best signal on. The other one it switches to quite often has a bunch of trees between me and the tower, and there is a wad of trees it has to go thru right beside the antenna. The one to the east has very minimal tree blockage and does better. I am disappointed that it is doing this on the reception. I have been using network cell info for signal readings, but of course their tower locator is brain dead so I use cellmapper for tower locations. without the booster my signal here is never better than -110, and usually -115 to -120 and I do drop calls. With the HiBoost it does do better, about -100 to -85 and mostly in the mid to upper 90's. With or without the booster I do see considerable fluctuations up and down. Those numbers to me are not extremely impressive, but it should keep me from dropping calls. In the home I have the main unit facing due east and the other internal antenna due west for best coverage. No issues at all with any kind of feetback. My antenna is 25' up in the air and about 10' above the top of my metal roof. Right this very moment I have signal from the east direction tower basically in high 90's, and the other two are very close to the same. If that LP8 were truly directional I should do better on the one it's pointed at. The reflective directional antenna your using that is picky would not be an option in my mind as I do get some wiggle if you will from the 4-5' sections of mast at the height I have it on 24" stand offs. I would love your thoughts on this.
I THERE ANY DEVICE THAT CAN SEND WIFI SIGNALS TO PHONES IN 1 - 2KM RANGE AND WHICH DEVICE IS THAT.
Sir can we use wifi direct to mobile without using any router if we use these antennas if not then what to do for providing wifi signals directly to mobile in 1.5 to 2 km area please guide me is it possible?
Ok I have a question. I stream my sons baseball games from a GoPro using my phones hotspot. Currently I run a 720p stream at 3.5 Mbps. The feedback from parents is good regarding the stream quality but resolution could be better. I was hoping I could use a set up that I already have built using a 12v automotive battery and a 1500w inverter to power some kind of system to boost my cellular signal to hopefully get to 12-15 Mbps so I can run a 1080p stream. Budget is a concern but I am very (rednecky)mechanically able, I was hoping to piece something together and use a homemade 12ft antenna pole to for a receiver. Any guidance would be helpful. I am on T-Mobile and believe I am looking for either 700Mhz or 1700/1900 MHz ?????
Is there Any that could cover 40 km area
Where do I get the antenna analyzer and what’s price?
Is their a site to find cell tower locations and what frequency they run at?
How do I find the list of frequencies my service provider runs at? Like att edge, 3g, 4g/LTE and what maximum speed should be on that service?
Say I keep switching between a 3g band and lte band. Is their a war to disable 3g or filter that off the antenna?
I'll be offering the surecall signal meter for $290 on the site soon. OPEN signal is the most popular but most of those sites are not up to date.
Will open signal show the signal strength of AT&T if I am on a T Mobile cell phone?
I just purchased one of these antenna from you. I have a modi4500 sim4 with AT&T 35$ unlimited SIM card. I have a weboost home 4G booster/repeater. Should I connect this antenna straight to my mofi, excluding the booster? Or should I include the booster? Also please describe the best wiring for your recommended setup. Lastly is there a reason your antennas are at a 45 degree angle? Is there a Benefit to this and if so then does the included bracket allow for a 45 degree setup? Thank you
I would connect these direct to the MoFi using L-400 cable. The cross polarization is -45 & + 45 for each antenna. Give us a call if you have any questions.
SimpleWiFi so you would bypass or not use the weboost at all?
Timothy Dennis is like to know this as well. Does connecting a booster between the antenna and a hotspot help or hurt?
SimpleWiFi I would like to know this as well. Does connecting a booster between an antenna like a Grid or Yagi and the hotspot like a Nighthawk MR1100 help or hurt? What are the effects?
Would this work with att wireless internet and home phone? Been thinking about this because I have 2 att towers within 2 miles but there’s so many trees that even a 20 dollar extender is kind of inconsistent
I'm looking to replace my ISP with cellular service. 700 mhz obviously picks up better inside, but is slower. Outside is faster, but picks up 1700/2100. Does that mean I should target 1700/2100 with a directional antenna? How high should I mount the antenna? The crest of my house is about 52 feet in the air. Should I go as high as possible, by mounting a pole against the side of the house, like you would have done with an old TV antenna?
Check out this page on the site to get you started: www.simplewifi.com/collections/hotspot
hello, wanting to know if the pole you mount these antenna's on matters. ie, a metal pole vs a plastic or other material?
You had good line of sight, I checked with scadacore's website. I want to know what if you don't have good line of sight. What Antenna is best for no line of sight 600-700Mhz. Regarding my situation, LOS is not blocked super bad, at 53ft you could draw a line to the tower's antenna but Fresnel clearance would add to that making it like 95ft. The next closest tower is blocked so bad you'd need to be 850ft above ground for LOS. Should I use a directional antenna still? what kind?? should there be an attempt to still raise it like 25ft?
Why is it sideways again?
I'm looking into a antenna for my night hawk m1 the tower is about 5 miles away what would u recommend for best upload download signal
The grid I use this in video would be ideal - contact our support for details.
Did you end up getting this? How did it help?
I have the yagi now. Is 2 better than one?
I'm interested in the NightHawk Yagi antennas, but i'm curious about lightning protection. This thing will be on my roof with a metal pole, so I need to ground it with a lightning arrestor to not have my nighthawk fry in a storm?
Please post a link for the meter. Thanks
Van I buy just the feed horn? I have several of those parabolic antennas.
I only know a little on these subjects, but with Verizon's new Mifi 8800L with 5th Gen capability (cat 18) will these antenna systems still be able to take FULL advantage of the newer bands and tech?
Yes and no. Right now (Jan 2019) the FCC still has not officially said where the 5g bands will be. However they have hinted strongly at opening up spectrum around 3 and 6GHz as well as some on 600 MHz. In that case for these bands our big antenna will be ready. The current "5G" systems and not truly 5G. It's still the stone ages in regards to the true 5G.
The Nighthawk has 2 antenna ports and is designed to use both ports (MIMO) for the best performance, as I understand. For the grid (or any) type antenna do you use 2 antennas or is there 2 leads on one antenna? I mainly interested in a AT&T cell tower connection.
One port is the "main" and the other is the "aux" - in testing we only saw the Aux help in small amounts. The best ROI is 1 on the main which I think is the left one.
Because of 4G,the WiFi market is becoming smaller and smaller ,but I used it in wireless digital CCTV connection especially with solar panel . The market is much more bigger than only for WiFi service. I had finished a 10km stable connecting project for CCTV
Cool
That is a sweeping statement. I believe it may become more popular than ever especially since millions are still paying 5-10 bucks/gig for data.
Also, WiFi is being used more and more for cell phone call and text ie Republic and GoogleFi.
Is there any benefit to having the antenna turned at that angle against just having it straight up and down? Which notch in the feedhorn should I use looking for ATT LTE signal?
Yes cross polarization helps dramatically.
I just bought a parabolic antenna, MOFI 4500 router and a celfi-gox booster.I am putting up a homemade 100 ft. antenna pole and only want to do it once. On the ground I’m getting around -125 dbi., 1 bar. My question is do I buy another parabolic antenna for Mimo setup and can I run the booster on just one of these antennas setup in mimo configuration or no booster or 2boosters???
2 antennas are needed for a true MIMO
Good morning sir,may I ask,is it ok to use mimo antina18dbi And parabolic antinna 24dbi in one modem b525-65a using antinna splitter connector...I hope u can notice... Thank you
whats the best antenna to use for mining helium? like what antenna, cable, router n etc. do we need to get the most
Wondering the same thing . Did you find a good antenna bro ?
@@elevenslevin6782 yeah but it all depends on your area and how far away are other miners I started off with an 8dbi bc others were too far away n now my city is getting more miners n I switched to 6dbi and now I'm getting alot more than the 8dbi
this is so informative! OK here my Situation. I am trying to connect 6 radio fradio frequency hotspots(915mhz). They are about 2 km apart on average with the furthest being 4.5 km and 11km. im currently leaning towards getting a few 13dbi yagi, and point them towards the closest/ largest cluster to 'witness' receive the signal...?
Hey I got a T-Mobile HotSpot the area I stay in no service how can I improve my Hotspot to get better service and also I stayed in a old trailer which you know it's aluminum
My new mobile livestream business depends on strong 4G LTE signal. I had previously planned on getting the 8dbi yagis in MIMO but after this I think I'll go big. I'll be livestreaming from the southern border from my pickup which means I'll have to devise some kind of topper mounted mimo antenna system for these big dishes. They're pricey! I'm mostly concerned with upload speed so the 4g boosters won't help. Both antenna lines will be plugged into the Nighthawk and from there a cat 5 to the router then cat 5 to the PC. I wish they made an in line booster for my nighthawk M1 for MIMO. If you know of such an animal please let me know.
You are headed in the right direction - however like I mentioned before the cell boosters are not MIMO so there's no increase in bandwidth, just overall signal for voice calls to your cell phone. The boost you will see from cross polarization however is usually good enough.
Bit disappointed mate...found this vid looking forward but few technical things to clarify...firstly, cross polarisation and mimo actually is more for urban environment due to the large amount of multipath and fast fading effects, you were in rural, so slower fading more influential, hence space diversity better, the +- 45deg xpolar with the log periodics won't do too much there. That does of course depend on what type of antenna is at the base station, so you can't assume they were xpolar. Secondly, bars on phones etc are not simply based on signal anymore - that was way back in the 2G days. I assume you're recording rssi there... also, no comments on cable losses? Always gets ignored...but 10m of cheap cable can offset the gain of even one if them yagis
can i link it With (Alfa Wi-Fi)
Hello. Your information is good. Please guide me to an external antenna, which means to install on the roof of the house for this ocusync 2.0 router for its use of the Dron mini 2. Thank you.
How long can the TS-9 antenna cables be before you get signal fade? Does the nighthawk not have any signal meters at all which would allow for positioning the antennas connected to it? Seems like an oversight on the manufacturers part...
The cables should definitely remain as short as possible. I would say anything over 1-2 ft on that thin cable becomes problematic. I agree with you on the other point.
@@SimpleWiFi I currently only have fixed wireless options on part of my property by providers that use Ubiquiti point to point radios, so I was wondering if I could test the waters on mobile service with a directional antenna. I would want an antenna up as high as possible, probably at least a 30ft cable since I have a metal home and would want the device on a pole outside. Are there any solutions for cable lengths that long?
Why is the antenna sideways?
What equipment are you using (that red one) to locate signal ?????
Hey thanks for the info can I optimize helium miners 915 mhz with this? You free to contact for more info and questions.
Hi, i am at 11000 feet above the sea level, my signal tower is at 7000 feet, and from the manual search i can see the signals but when i try to register with them, it fails
Will these antennas help me?
Can this anntina connect to my router Huawei 5G CPE Pro H112-370 WiFi 6 and do i need conecter wire ?
Dang, I would kill to find how to rent the surecall for my roral home.
Our house is 23km away from the cell tower, is it possible to get a 4bars signal? If yes then what would you recommend me to buy? Pls reply.
Too far.
If I only want one band is their a way to adjust swr on the antenna to tune for that frequency?
Not with this antenna - it's design is continuously radiating on all bands 600-6.5Ghz
What’s the best long range booster for 915 MHz ?
My att plan gives advertised 70 mbps with bursts over 100 while I get 20. So I need your spectrum analyzer ....could not find it on ebay. Where do I get one ?
Amazon
How do I connect the external antenna to my m1 nighthawk?
Would I benefit with the 8dbi for an m1 att in Florida, but I’d like to use it on my minivan, will a m1 work better if I had an antenna on top of my roof while traveling and driving around?
Outside the van is definitely the way to go. Since you will be mobile you will want to use omni antennas - but when stationary the directionals are great for when you are far from the tower.
How many miles will the biggest antenna reach in miles? Heard roughly 30 miles on 10 to 12dbi antennas? The 26dbi is the one im asking about
On cellular bands the 26dB antenna can in theory do 10+ miles. It really depends on many variables like power, line of sight and others.
i need a video of how to connect and use these things with a laptop for internet out on the road.
I need a booter to a tower for a mifi m2000 hotspot to up my data speed any help?
What if 20km from home to cell tower. What antenna should i buy?
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I'm having problems getting the correct pigtail that goes into the hotspot, and I've tried different hotspots and different connectors, all to loose
Will try your techniques esp. with cross polarization with my parabolic grid
I'm looking at purchasing the blue magic (netgear) this week, which can use multiple towers, The Verizon tower is only a mile from my house. With your antenna, do you make the connection to the blue magic plugging into the 2 ports on the device?
Yes you do
@@SimpleWiFi here can I purchase and for how much?
Your video is great. I just bought the nighthawk and want to buy external antenna to mount on my RV ladder. The directional Yagi antenna seems fit. Do you have recommendation of a flag pole so I can mount both antenna on the pole and tie it to the ladder? Thanks. Your price is good too. Similar to amazon. Thank you.
My pleasure - we have the cellular expansion kit on our site. As for a pole - I am sorry but I don't have a recommendation. www.simplewifi.com/collections/hotspot
We have an at&t mobile hotspot router and a metal roof. Where should I look for the correct antenna? How hard are they to install?
Take a look at our site and give us a call if needed: www.simplewifi.com/collections/hotspot
I am on AT&T with one bar with the Nighthawk M1100 modem. The tower is roughly 5-6 miles from me and it is a band 2,12, and 17. I get 3-4 m down.And sometimes a little less. What would be a good setup for me? Would I have to use two of any of the antennas? Which band would I be getting of the 2,12, and 17? ANd what frequency would it be?
2 directional antennas are ideal, then cross poloarize them on the pole like I did in the video. The device will choose the best band and frequency to use. Sometimes towers will swap between bands depending on the bandwidth in the area. The antennas are wideband which cover the cellular spectrum 700mhz - 2200 mhz.
I went right to the tower yesterday with my modem and laptop and it only puts out 12 down there. I am getting around 8 at my house now.
is it applicable if the tower is none line of sight it is blocked by a big mountain distance is around 5 km from my place there is no signal in my location
from philippines thanks
No it wont work
Why are these antenna at a 45 degree angle?
Increased speed -look up MIMO.
Great video Raul!
What I meant about the 45 degree cross polarization, does it take 2 antenna both crossed and crossed in opposite directions? Thanks
Yes but if you have one plugged into the "main' port it will be an improvement. But 2 is ideal.
Cool video and nicely price antennas on your site. Not sure I need to go this far yet...but good to know if a parabolic is needed...this is how to do it.
So....you mentioned the up and down mbps rates you got while 8 miles out with both setups...which is super useful....but now I'm curious what the throughput was when you were really close to the tower at the end??
Reach out whenever you are ready. The speeds at the tower were hovering around 60 mbps.
-90 dBm is still a decent signal. I've been connected to a band 2 tower with a signal of -110 dBm and got 20 Mbps down.
Not on a power rating - you were probably looking at another rating. But kudos anyways!
@@SimpleWiFi I was looking at LTE Reference Signal Received Power (RSRP). My phone considers -104 dBm as good, 3/4 bars.
What do you recommend, I have an M1 nighthawk, I get about 15-35 mbps, its good, but I want to make it better, I live in a rural area and I'm on ATT Lte
Same! Did you get an answer?
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I'm looking an antenna for my mofi, I was wondering is the installation difficult in any way.
It's not too bad - just run the cables up to the roof to the antennas and point at the tower.
how to order
How do adjust the feedhorn?
Another great tutorial on db gain.
Glad you enjoyed it!
sudah cuba, kalau ada bukit di depan tidak dapat biarpun tower sejauh 6KM dari rumah saja
What's the soundtrack name used for the intro?
Great Video. Lots of good information. Learned a lot. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Has anyone try this on the new nighthawk M6 ? And would it be the same set up ?
Learned a lot. Thank you.
Thank You very much for the tutorial, however with due respect, your Music in the Background makes the whole thing quite annoying!!
Q.. Mobile hotspot on phone, trying to watch on tv. Alot of buffering. Any cheap suggestions?
Contact our support team.
Excellent video!
Brother, For use for a long time, can this device function without battery?
No