@@josephdias5859 You can overclock the 12100F to 5ghz with an Asrock b760m that cost $100. With that kind of single core performance the 12100f can beat the 5600x3D in some games, and pulls 60-80w while doing it. Mine is overclocked to 5.1-5.2ghz with 4800 ddr5 overclocked to 6800mhz, averages 150-180fps in Warzone 1440p. The motherboard ram and CPU costs less than $250. Can’t beat that price to performance with much these days.
I went from i7-4700MQ to i7-12700K. If the R7 7800X3D was launched as an APU with 12 cores, i would own it instead of the i7-12700K (AMD had nothing similar to it).
@@saricubra2867 not overclocked you are. My cinebench score was way above the i7-3770.My cpu was running at 4.8ghz with 2.6 on the Northbridge using 2400 DDR3 ram. But I do admit that thing was power Hungry as fuck. Lasted me from 2016 and still kicking it tho suprisingly. Altho my Northbridge is starting to become unstable
I found a Asrock x99 extreme 4 at a local college surplus store that had been marked down to $20 USD. That's practically a steal at that point. Until such time I would acquire something like an 6900k or equivalent Xeon, I've got a E5-2667 V3 I got for $8 on eBay. I love this platform
you will not have any reasonable performance benefit from upgrading, especially considering, that 2667 one of the highest stock clocks. Honestly 6850k vs 2666 felt the same
X99 is first generation of motherboards that supported NVMe, and you can even get them to support Resizable Bar, so it fair really well considering it's age, it's really one legendary generation Edit: Ah fudge, that's for Z97 and 4th Gen Intel, not X99
@@twanheijkoop6753 I was able to follow a guide on winraid (now hosted by level1techs) pretty easily. They have a very compatible tiny UEFI module you can add to the BIOS. Or just use a Clover NVMe enabled boot drive, like a SATA Disk on Module or low profile USB thumb drive. Also Sandy and Ivy bridge support NVMe this way. Including X79.
The 4790k when overclocked is still a pretty good CPU honestly. I had no idea you could get them to accept resizable bar!! That’s awesome thanks for the info!!
Thanks to Miyconst, I was able to build a budget x99 system with the Machinist x99 PR8 and the xeon 2666v3. It has 10 cores/20 threads and turbos over 3ghz at stock. It pairs well with cards up to the 6600xt. I got the board and CPU for less than 40$ shipped to my country.
@yourbluewaffle how has the PR8 worked out for you with respect to DDR3 compatibility and the VRMs? Been thinking about picking one up with a 2666v3 to use all the DDR3 I have laying around. Any issues with the board?
Haswell really was ahead of it’s time. My z97 has usb 3.1 ports and a m.2 slot that I recently put a 2tb ssd in. At the time it was seen as an incremental improvement over ivy bridge but these creature comforts plus avx2 support means that a simple swap of my 980ti to a 1080ti (equivalent, im running a 12gb Titan Xp) a little down the road still has the ancient pc pretty relevant.
just put a 2080 TI in my xeon system and I get great performance I could probably upgrade to a 4090 and not have a problem since I see my GPU at 100% and my dual cpu system only go up to like 7 percent utilization
@@ChunkyWaterisReal a 4090 is 5 times as powerful as a 2080 TI, 7 percent times 5 equals 35% so my CPU would still be fine. also I have 2 processors, not 1 (32 cores)
I'm quite surprised by your take in this video, since it wasn't that long ago you were singing the praises of the i7-5960X which is essentially the same chip as the 1660v3. I'm running a j-batch 1660v3 @ 4.3GHz in my daily workstation with 32GB DDR4-2400 on my old AsRock X99-Extreme4, coupled with a 6700XT, and this machine still continues to REALLY impress me. The 1660v3 was an upgrade from my venerable 5820K that I'd been running since 2015 at 4.4GHz (the Xeon was cheaper and easier to get ahold of than a 5960X at the time), and I still feel no need to upgrade away from X99 with the Xeon. I do more productivity than gaming, but even at 4K I'm still getting performance I'm perfectly happy with! I definitely made the right choice back in 2015 throwing the extra cash at X99 instead of Z97. Only drawback of course is my power bill (my partner runs a 1680v4 workstation day-to-day lmfao) and the space heater quality of this machine :D
Sixteen months is a long time! Given how different things are in mid-2024 compared to Jan 2023, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to change my mind. Not to mention, apparently I didn't think power consumption was important enough in that first review to warrant buying a watt meter. I know better now! I don't have to tell you how good your CPU is, but I think it's only fair to warn potential X99 buyers what they're getting themselves into in 2024.
X99 for life! Still my go-to suggestion for cheap gaming or home server build. Still looking for some of those rare 16xx V3 cpus! Got my hands on a 1680v3 for a fairly cheap price not to long ago. Although the 1650v3 and 1660v3 were the most fun to overclock.
That was back in the day that the perfect-yield first-pick top-bin parts were always chosen for Xeons. The top-tier top-rung top-price power-user enthusiast-gamer consumer i7-5960X was actually an E5-1680v3 which was downbinned because it couldn't run as fast. And the rest of the Haswells (then later the Haswell-E's) followed the same pattern on each rung.
This misses the appeal in the X99 Xeons.... their true value is in being able to get an 8/10/12/14/16/18 core CPU for dirt cheap, and sticking it in a dirt cheap AliExpress motherboard with dirt cheap quad channel ECC memory.
@@max_uaminecraft1827 No - but you will get better price to performance. The point of buying used X99 chips is obviously not to get the best performance in the world, it's to get great performance for a fraction of the cost of a newer platform.
The US government just dumped 127k cores worth of Haswell E onto the secondary market, so I'd expect them to be cheap and readily available for years to come. They just don't have the performance per watt to actually be worth buying if your electricity isn't basically free.
are you payng a thousand dollars a kilowatt hour? I have 2 of these plus 5 other computers running in my house 24/7 and it only accounts for less than 5% of my energy bill. moderrn intel chips can be even worse in effeciency than these. spending hundreds of extra dollars to pinch pennies off your electricity bill is a pretty dumb move when you can get these for 10 dollars
@@flamingscar5263 I have super high energy costs. my bill is 500 a month here in florida when it used to be 200. almost none of my bill goes towards all the old "inefficient" computers I have. maybe 10 to 15 dollars a month in energy for computers and I have 5 systems running at all times
@@nesyboi9421 I couldn't really reach 144FPS+ to use backlight strobing effectively (usually was around 120 but down to 70 in more demanding shooters) Few non-comp games gained healthy 30% from the switch but most games gained 100% to even 300% higher framerate which blew me away
@@nesyboi9421 I consider anything over 60fps a high framerate lol. I'm happy with 60fps on my i9-10900X + GTX 1080, I only have a 60Hz monitor anyway. Though I don't play any competitive games
@@Pasi123 Genuinely same about being happy with 60 fps, I just don't consider 60 fps a high framerate, I consider it a good framerate. The standard that should be met. 30-55 is playable framerate albeit undesirable, and below that is a low or unplayable framerate depending on how bad it is.
3 months ago, bought full server blade w i75960x water cooled + GTX 970 no ssd for $160 CA. went back after validating the whole thing and since the gpu was bad on the one i got em down to 100$ each. bough x 3. all of those GPU's worked!!! so happy x99 Gigabye G1 Gaming p5 UD mobo! then went back bough 4 more. doing a giveaway or at cost sale for upgrades on all 4 of those PCs. hmu if ur in central CA. Buyers market over here.
i bought my X99 F8 combo with E5-2696(18 cores, 32 threads) v3 and 64gb ddr4 for less than a modern i3 cpu alone. when I test in cpuz my setup has a higher score than a i9 11th gen. let that sink in
Approximately few months back I grabbed myself a Chinese motherboard with 8 RAM slots for $95. Surprisingly found 256GB (32×8) 2666mhz ECC registered as well for dirt cheap $130 ish. Paired it with a 1680v4 costing $85 (but man it came after like nearly 2 months). Paired these up with a decent 650W deepcool PSU and a decent airflow case. Everything got me fired up less than $500. I had a spare 3070 lying around so added that ($350 at that time from second hand market) Before that I do have two other systems with an intel i9-9900k + RTX 2080ti (which costed me about $2500+ back in the day) and a somewhat newer Ryzen 7 5700x paired with an RX 6950xt which was build about a year ago. I must say the xeon build puts those two new systems to shame when it comes to value. True it costs a bit more wattage but not that much. I'm really really surprised actually. Using 3 of them simultaneously but recently finding myself using the Xeon system more often hmmm
I had my Xeon W3690 OC'd to 4.6ghz for 5 years or so. Finally upgraded to a Ryzen 9 5950x. Yes, huge performance upgrade. But damn....that thing still keeps up mostly. Even had it with a Samsung 950 pro nvme drive to boot from. It's still in my living room for the kids to play with. Both have a 6950XT gpu. Unlocked Xeons are no joke. Back then, the Xeons where made from the core of the silicon slug. The I 7's where just outside of that. So these Xeons were really durable.
I built a complete x99 system for $160 that games exceptionally well. I think this video really misses the point of using Xeons from the Broadwell and Haswell generations. When engaging in a topic such as this a good amount of research needs to be done is you are not familiar with the subject. Knowing the tricks to doing this on the cheap is how it works. I bought my last Dell T5810 for $60 with the following included (and in some cases modified): in16GB single stick ram which was swapped out for 4 8gb sticks... got to have quad channel- net additional cost ~$20; used 1tb M.2 Nvme I paid $40 and a NVME to PCIE adapter for $6 as I recall..plugs right in runs great; 2 2tb HDD were included in the system; a 1620v3 was included in the system which I replaced with a 1660v3 (I have 2 1660v3s that clock faster than my 1680v3) for $15 that clocks easily to 4.4GHz- have done Cinebench at 4.6GHz but I have to use 1.35v+ which I really don't want to do for ~5% more performance); $20 10 pin to dual 8 pin PCIE adapter to power my 3080ti off of the extra CPU port on the power distribution board;Quadro k2200 I sold for ~$20 after my cost for shipping. For ~$150 I have a full system that will easily compete with if not outperform the systems in this video (and many new systems today) at a cost that was close to the CPU and motherboard of the other systems. At What Cost?
I'm actually using Strix X99 with E5-2666v3 and RTX2070 , i also have platform with i7 9700K. When i did timespy benchmark 2666v3 beats I7 9 gen easly (7837 vs 6504). Currently i'm going to sell i7 and stay with E5 for few more years... My E5 2666v3 with RTX2070 gets 8397 points in timespy benchmark without any O.C
You can’t go wrong with a Machinist MR9A, 2698v3 turbo unlocked and 4x8gb 2133mt/s ecc ram for ~$120. You’ll get just 2-3% less fps than the OC’ed 4.3Ghz 1660v3 thanks to the 40MB L3 cache and not need any special cooling past a $20 4 heat pipe.
With the x99, you do have some additional gear ratios when tinkering with BCLK overclocking so things like DMI/PCIe run at their correct clock rates but permitting 125 Mhz or 166 Mhz base clocks reaching the processor socket. This is how you can hit much higher clocks on the E5 v3 or E5 v4 series chips with locked *maximum* multiplier. Most CPUs to be able to take a 66% overclock due to the base block improvement but the multiplier can be decreased to move things back into a sane range for stability. This is how you'd get a 4.5 Ghz clock on the E5-2630 v4 and its 10 cores or 4.4 Ghz on the E5-2690's 18 cores. You do need a good cooler for these types of overclocks and a good VRM to supply all the necessary power to the socket. Be prepared to double or even triple the amount of power compared to their default clocks. Another thing that can improve cooling in general is sanding/polishing these processors. These chips are old and inexpensive enough (for me at least) that I wouldn't worry about voiding warranties to flatting the integrated heat spreader. Similarly I'd do the same to the heat sink/water block base so they'd match. Combine that with liquid metal and a good copper base on the heat sink/water block and you can radically drop temperatures or push the chip a bit more.
I wish this were true but it doesn’t seem to be. I can’t get my machine stable with anything more than a 104 BCLK, maybe I need to increase CPU input power? Or drop multiplier? It seems it will be impossible to get 125mhz and if I did then I would need to drop the multiplier so much that I’ll be back to the same clocks of the multiplier being maxed out. I’m curious of your process though. If you have advice I’ll try to implement it. Thank you
@@ChidiOable It is a ratio setting that you’re looking for. If you’re making adjustments with raw number like that, chances are that you’re altering the raw BCLK which indeed doesn’t go much beyond 100 MHz. The other thing is that when you find the ratio adjustment, you’ll need to drop your CPU multiplier down as once the higher ratio has been applied it’ll other wise have a 25% overclock on it (CPU clock moves from 100 MHz -> 125 MHz for the multiplier while BCLK for PCIe remains at 100 MHz). You can adjust both the ratio and the BCLK. That 104 MHz BCLK would means that the CPU is being feed 130 MHz before the multiplier. Where that ratio lies depends on the motherboard.
@@powerpower-rg7bk Okay, I’ll try to see if I can get this to work. Do you suggest I adjust CPU straps as well or do I just adjust the BLCK ratio? My CPU is E5 - 2696 V3 Do you by any chance have a write up that has more info on how to do this? Thank you. Also doesn’t TDP limits come into play and even if I succeed with the ratio won’t the PL1 and 2 limits just keep down clocking the cpu?
@@powerpower-rg7bk Okay, I’ll try to see if I can get this to work. Do you suggest I adjust CPU straps as well or do I just adjust the BLCK ratio? My CPU is E5 - 2696 V3 Do you by any chance have a write up that has more info on how to do this? Thank you. Also doesn’t TDP limits come into play and even if I succeed with the ratio won’t the PL1 and 2 limits just keep down clocking the cpu?
In my experience these make more sense if you get your hands on an off lease workstation like a Dell Precision or Lenovo (Thinkstation?) and drop in a GPU and are good to go. Alot of companies dump palettes of the things.
The most impressive thing for me is how low the CPU temperature is. For someone live in tropical regon like me, my cpu, while idle, can't even goes below 50 degree during summer. Anything below 70 Celcius during gaming is just COOL.
This has inspired me to dig out that old ASUS X99-E-10G WS I stuck on a shelf years ago. That was an absolute beast of a board back in its day. And I just got given an old Proliant Gen9 with two E5-2687w V3 CPU's. One of those should be tasty in that board! That generation allowed up to 4 x16 PCI-E slots. Seems we have downgraded ever since with my current Z790 only supporting one.
I've recently been really impressed with intel 4th gen as of recently, with a development/gaming budget build I did. And that was with a 4590 i5 4 core 4 thread, keen to get a cheap 4770k or 4790 and see how that goes with the gpu I paired it with (gtx 1080 fe)
After going from an X58 Xeon X5675 @ 4.8GHz to a Ryzen 5 3600X in 2019, and then to a 5800X in 2021, the performance upgrade has of course been nice, but what I noticed most was that my air conditioning was actually effective during summer again. That Xeon could peak power at ~320W, and compared with my 5800X that rarely draws more than 110W, I learned my lesson. What you save in initial cost for these chips, you end up paying for with suffering (and electricity).
Worrying about cpu power draw really become a concern when its hot where you live. I have a 5900x and I slightly undervolt/underclock and the temp went from 80c to 60c during busy part of gaming. It too probably only draw less than 110w most of the time. Only exception is blender/video rendering.
My 4.4ghz 6850K is still putting up a worthy fight. I even did a BIOS mod on my board to unlock Resizable BAR for better performance with modern GPUs. But it is finally starting to show its age. I'm looking pretty closely at one of the 9000X3D's, so that i can build my first new PC in nearly a decade.
The 16XX xeons don't make any sense from a budget standpoint. They go for way too much because of the ability to O.C. them clock. If you are willing to fiddle around with bios or you can find someone to make you a custom bios using one of the higher end cpu's, with the max turbo unlocked on all cores, gets you way more performance per dollar. Of course it also potentially gets you way more heat and way more power draw. It does limit you as far as not being able to use a v4 the turbo bios mod doesn't seem to effect them. I still use an x99 system that I've been running for years and the e5-2699 v3 is pretty banging.
I'm about to retire my 6850K from daily driver use, replacing it with a 5600X. But for no reason beyond curiosity, I've purchased a Xeon E5-2699 v3 to pop into the X99 board. No gaming, no on-line excursions once it's up and running, but it should be fun to play with.
im using dual xeon e5 2699 v3 unlocked and undervolt on cheap chinese mb. its stable at 3.3ghz for all 36 core 72 threads. disabling 2 core for each cpu can give me 3.5ghz all core. but at what cost? 2x145 Watt all the time for cpu only
I'm still using my ASUS RVE from 2014 with 5960x and don't feel the need to change. If somebody told me years ago that I will ever have a platform that I would use for 10 years I woudn't believe :D What I did over the time was to upgrade video card from 4x R9 290 to 1080ti and now 3080ti (I pull the trigger of this platform exactly because of that 4x crossfire back then) Also changed the 5960x CPU once with another 5960x I got from a friend because it's overclocks better. Few years ago I bought 8x 8GB BDie memory which works at 3200 14-14-14, the max that this CPU IMC supports and I have memory bandwidth of about 90GB/s, something that is impossible for even the latest mainstream i9 CPU with DDR5 :) Too bad they do not make decent overclocking platforms with at least 4 memory channels nowadays so there is nothing that I could buy for upgrade.
I went for the 2699v3, I know is not the best when it comes to a day to day use for a pc because of the tdp being high and the high core count means less clock speed for gaming and all that but I still like it paired with a 1080ti, I use this computer as a day to day pc and also for network virtualization and server so I use my main ssd to boot into windows but also use another 12tb disk when I work on virtualization with esxi, this computer saved me from spending more on modern hardware or having 2 different computers, it's all in one
I had one of these in 2015 and let me tell ya, they made for really good heaters at stock because the damn ass MSI motherboard I had refuses to allow overclocking of it
Meanwhile like 2-3 years ago i got a Fatal1ty X99X Killer and a 6950x for ~$100 and i currently use as a plex server. I think i have a very small multiplier overclock and with quad channel memory. Not a powerhouse, but works good enough for a plex server.
Had one of these for a while, which I ran at 4.40 GHz/ 1.30v. It was very hot and power hungry and definitely much less comfortable to run, IMO, than my current stock clocked 7950X, which is also very hot and power hungry. I replaced it with a Ryzen 7 3700X which offered a much better overall experience, despite being not much faster in many benchmarks (and slower in a few). It surprised me how the 3700X slashed the time it took to get to the main menu, in a large Fallout 4 mod list I had at the time, from around 50 seconds on the old Xeon, to 30 seconds. That said, it holds up brilliantly for a processor coming up on 10 years of age, and your stock clocked benchmarks will have the power and heat issues more than sorted whilst still performing decently in your benchmarks. I found that up to about 3.80 - 3.90 GHz, these were extremely easy to cool. Plus, the ability to run quad channel DDR4-3200, which I also did, by simply having a decent kit with an XMP profile for it is fantastic for the first consumer DDR4 processor line, much better than first and second gen Ryzen, which had terrible IMCs compared to Intel at the time. Now it is the other way around, with DDR5 being more solid and reliable on AMD.
these Xeons are crap anything below 2670 is not worth it at all. you can get the 2699 18 core varients for slightly more and they crush both the lower end Xeons and most mid range or low end modern chips
@@TruthDoesNotExist Most of those are even worse due to locked multipliers and lower clock speeds, resulting in poor single threaded performance compared to even cheap modern chips.
@@ryanocallaghan8833 I have a 32 core Xeon system that would say otherwise, my dads system had an 8 core xeon like the one in the video and when I upgraded it to the 18 core 2699 it was a huge difference and way more powerful. I don't overclokc as it's not worth it so locked or unlocked multipliers I don't care about. a modern 4 core or even 8 core system can't beat an old 18 core in productivity even at 2.8ghz the cores are not nearly as weak as people think they are
AMD targeted Haswell EE, 5960X and 1660/80 v3 with 5800X3D LP LC and I have one. Considered 5960X before Vermeer launch and at R5K run end in June 2022 bought into 7 nm purposely to get off the process train for TSMC 7 transistor endurance and 10-year life it's probably forever. All the Haswell octa hexa EE and for E5 core category frequency workstations parts are similar, good for their time and thank you for the salvage coverage the channel thanks you. mb
I really appreciate this review. And well... at $89 for a MB, CPU, and RAM still sounds like a pretty sweet deal looking at this data, even knowing its a dead end no upgrade platform
I've bought 2 ali express "x99" boards and had one of them fail within a month. Not sure if I would recommend someone on a tight budget to take that risk
Years back the economics made more sense. Unless you live in a country where the economics are skewed, AM4 is a much better ultra budget platform now, even if it is dead.
Oh my God....that was terrible, sorry for your loss.... I think I won't try to buy a chinese X99 board...better the real X99 board right? Damn I was so tempted with the lower price of that chinese board...but the risk is to high I guess.
@@royrepie61 Ali express does also have a lot of relatively cheap b450 boards as well (and a good selection from well known brands). Unless you need the massive number of cores, a ryzen 5 3600 should outperform pretty much anything that fits in an x99 board in games anyways
I think I would like xeon with proper quad channel support. I'm trying to hook buddies up with emulation PCs with batocera, and CPUs are kind of the most important part. I have a 12700k and a 14100 CPU. I don't over clock so stock ipc and stability are most important to me not draw calls. I will give AliExpress a good look for quad channel ecc registered ram support.
i have a xeon 2696 v4 system AND a i3 12100F system (ddr5 4800), both are gaming builds, they are comparable in gaming, BUT when encoding video, the xeon crushes it hands down.
Better option for normal consumers would be to buy 12100f/12400f and b660m riptade (or b660m strix g for the ddr5) so you can overclock with external clock.
24MM AIO, oh man what a small water cooler, 360 and 420MM AIOs can be had for super cheap these days, ive seen cheaper models around $60 here in the U.S, you might look into buying one.
Good job on the video. Overall very informative. I'm looking to get a 1680 v2 myself for budget reasons to upgrade my 6 core SB-E 3930k to an 8 core IB-E and PCI-E 3.0. My X79 Sabertooth already support it and CPU is unlocked. One thing I would like to see here is, OC power draw under lighter workloads like games, multimedia streaming or some small number thread apps which is more likely the use for higher frequencies, to not lag behind too much with relatively lower CPU frequencies. Also for efficiency we need to factor in the total work times as well. Total power spent on Blender is 31Wh vs 50Wh on 3.3 vs 4.3, giving you a %38 efficiency drop for %20 less time on completion. Not too bad for whenever you need faster completion and just crank it up. It already loses big with its stock power draw since newer and more powerful processors you compare them with draw WAY LESS power. For example stock vs stock, 5600X draws around half the power. Even after OC it would draw around 3/4th of what stock 1660 v3 would draw I guess. So if that's not a big issue for you, then OC is not that big if you need time more than efficiency. Tweaking voltages and frequencies to hit the sweet spot between efficiency and performance sounds like a fun fiddling though. 4.0-4.2 range on all cores sounds like it can bring in some interesting results.
You forgot to mention that E5-1660 V3 can only use 2133Mhz DDR4 Ram, So your RAM speed is affected. Pretty sure it will default the CPU speed from 3200Mhz to 2133Mhz. Correct me if I'm wrong. Most cheap X99 Chinese motherboard only goes to 2400MHz at most (There are some that can support higher Ram Speed).
@@nuzhmizafidi2037 My Asus X99 deluxe, could run @3200(with 4 sticks, 32GB Total ) DDR 4 speeds with an Xeon e1660 v3 or 5280k, the first at 4500MHZ and 1.32v and the second @ 4300MHZ, also at 1.3v. Now is my son in law using it, but not overclocked, because of power. (ring bus @ 4000mhz, when overclocked).
The 4 channel memory will double the speed of the 2133mhz ram. As long as you install in the proper order in the 8 ram slots. You can use 4 slots and leave space between each dimm which will stay cooler as well.
@@nuzhmizafidi2037 I've got a 1660 v4 sitting in a dead Chinese fake x99 board (died after a month of server use). Might just grab another 2 sticks of ram and keep an eye out for a well priced board.
I had ones of these last year, got it on a custom water loop and a well priced 2nd hand asus x99 mobo, got to 4.6ghz on it Excellent chip, but the ram support was a huge issue, couldn't get some kits running on it at all, which was so annoying i sold the entire thing
If you haven't done so already, perhaps look at quad channel vs dual channel RAM considering even a decade later quad channel still isn't a thing on mainstream consumer hardware with it still being only single or dual channel for RAM.
If I remember correctly Xeon E5-2699 v3 was a best buy - decent price, 18 cores so plenty of power and high single core boost to 3,6 GHz. Although to be honest I rather have first or second gen Ryzen for anything other then multithread workload. As for AliExpress cheap MB the one I had came with broken onboard audio, only 10/100 LAN, and dual instead of quad channel memory support. It might me just a bad luck or it might be that they are build a bit randomly from parts that available at the moment.
I have some issues with audio (only recognized if something is plugd in), 10/100/1000 LAN, Real quad channel 4 sticks of ECC 16GB 2133MHz, paired with 2670v3 on Machinist RS9 (DDR4) for MOBO+CPU+32GB cost me less then 100Euro on 11/11 clearance sell from "official" store
My desktop PC before it died a few months ago was running an i7 5960X. (not technically a Xeon) While performance dropped over the years, to a sad level compared to more modern CPUs, it was still OK for most things. Two things that I found more problematic with it than anything else were the lack of iGPU and the Windows 11 lack of official support. The first because it was clearly problematic in video related activities, something which most youtubers and journalists forget to mention when promoting a dGPU for say video editing. An iGPU, especially Intel's, can help a lot. Even more so if you are not running the latest and greatest hardware. And no, I am not talking about just final exporting/rendering. The second because it was a kick in the balls by Microsoft, Intel and I guess AMD which clearly they made such form of agreement to push new hardware when the older ones had no real problem running Windows 11. This makes me sick. I was glad I bought it back in 2015, as it proved quite a beast for years to come. Yet annoyed with the previously mentioned points. So when a few months ago that PC died and I had/have no money to replace it, going back to my i7-4710HQ laptop was an interesting kick in the balls times 2. Funny. The iGPU is here, but daaaaamn it's so much slower for almost anything else. Well, FML and all. Regarding the power consumption, my i7 5960X with the ASUS motherboard, also doesn't show proper wattage in any program, though at least it makes it very clear with the whole 0 or 1 (I don't remember right now) power consumption "metric". Good video, thanks for sharing.
I think its best too keep single cpu xeons in the past and the multi cpus for cheap servers and workstations with high core count. my personal favourite is the e5-2683v4 which can be bought for 19,90€ and can make for a pretty cheap 32core system.
mine xeon e5-2682 16core 32threads with rtx3060 dam this cpu not over clock. but no battleneck. nothing to say this xeon its beast. also good for editing 8k and 4k
The newest xeons that are currently cheap are Skylake. You're gonna get half the performance of the fastest thing out there, but you can get it for $25
The fact that the 12100f is only a 4 core with less l3 cache vs the old xeon chip with 8 core and more l3 cache…it does pretty dam well. Also 12100f can still run ddr4 also and very high probability of running faster ddr4 rates then the xeon. But i would go with ddr5 since its much cheaper now. 12100 likely only use 40-50 watts max. I know the 12400f i had used 55-60 watts in cinebench r23 multi core load. There is zero reason to buy a 9 year old cpu/motherboard even its its only $20. You can buy cheap b or z motherboards for the 12th and newer gens which have full support for newer and faster features like pci gen5/gen4 support. Im still using a power supply from 8-9 years ago so you can still salvage parts for new build.
I have a E5-2697v3 running at 3.6Ghz all core (90mv undervolt). I find it's not nearly as power hungry as you may think, especially if the CPU isn't at 100%, which I doubt it will be with 14c/28t. In games, It usually sits around 50~65w (BG3, RDR2 are my most played), even under heavier workloads I rarely saw anything above 85w, which isn't half bad. Can't complain, considering the price (all used of course): CPU: 2697v3 (6$) Motherboard: Huananzhi x99 8M (68$) RAM: 2x16GB Samsung ECC RAM (2133 MT/s) (16$) GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 XC Ultra 8GB (125$)
Well I decided to pair a 12100f with a 3090 fe. I found a special so the 12100f was £69.99 on Amazon , I chinama'd a b660 itx board 16 GB ddr4 3200, under clocked the 3090 back to 750vm. Now it uses about 270w add the CPU and that's less than 400w. It plays anything I throw at it at 4k ,doesn't want to burn my house down and uses less than 50 percent of the PSU(antec titanium 1000w). Tbh I wouldn't use the older systems due to the zillion watts they pull. Although I've almost pulled the trigger on the 14 core chips for giggles
>5:15 >DDR4 3200CL16 This is lucky and dangerous. Boards sent to much voltage to the memory controller to get/try this timings. Like +0,5 volts and more. I switched last your from x99 to AM5, because i7-6950x@4,3ghz was to slow for my new 7900xtx. I think 6900xt is the edge for 1440p for 8/10Core overclocked x99 CPU. With my 7900xtx I saw 60-70% GPU usage at 1440p with my i7-6950x in games. But it's crazy how good the x99 platform was. Back than 2014 you could buy a good entry board for 200€, 16GB DDR4 for 200€ and i7-5820k was under 350€ back then. Now I pay 300€ for an AM5 board and get 4 sata ports.
Why do you think that DDR4 3200mhz would give +0,5V on memory? Im pretty sure a normal 3200mhz cl16 kit does 1,35V in comparison to the normal 1,2V so +0,15V which should be totally fine
In my e5-2680 v4 i tend to get better performance and 0.1% lows when using only 4 cores with hyperthreading. Idk if the 35mb of l3 cache did something also the fact that it boost to 3.1ghz
There's always the OEM route, like the HP Z440... granted that definitely nixes the idea of overclocking. But you definitely will have a lower cost of entry. Perfect for someone that's looking to start out PC gaming. EDIT: It would seem you CAN overclock with the Z440. Seems like a no-brainer to go that route for sub $200.
@@colorado_hgc Good to know. I feel like that makes going with an off the shelf board irrelevant when you can get these with a 1650 or 1660 for well under $200. I've been toying with the idea of getting one to play around with. I think I'm definitely going to now.
@@TheGameBench on Z440 you can't overclock RAM, it only works at 2133 MT/s and you can't change latency of RAM, just like on any OEM platform. Z440 also doesn't support Resizable BAR. Z440 have nice VRM section. On full load VRM have only 65*C - 68*C (measured by Infrared Thermometer) If you would like to overclock the Z440 with ThrottleStop (or Intel XTU), you need to have BIOS v1.62 and use the sleep mode trick. I set up Windows so that when I start the system it automatically goes to sleep, then I wake it up with the mouse or keyboard and I have my computer already overclocked 😉 Dell T5810 is the 2nd option where there is a BIOS with TurboUnlock function, and possibly (but I'm not sure) with ResizableBar I also don't tested ThrottleStop in this machine (i builded it with 2666v3 locked procesor) th-cam.com/video/PPxdSycvNiw/w-d-xo.html this bios must be programed with CH341 hardware programer. and this bios have windows key inside, I modified it using HXD and put there My key. There is also a Lenovo ThinkStation P500, but I haven't had this machine in my hands and I can't say anything about it .😄
@@TheGameBench on OEM machines you cannot change RAM settings, only SPD works (2133 MT/s and delays as saved in it) - Z440 don't suport ResizableBAR, support overclocking over ThrottleStop (Intel XTU) and sleep mode trick. (unlocked 1650v3 and 1660v3) - Z440 maybe possible support TurboUnlock, but I don't tested it. I have manual and bios fot it, but curently I don't have E5-2xxx v3 procesor to test it. - Dell T5810 support TurboUnlock (there is a public BIOS for it, you must have CH341 programmmer) - ResizableBAR and ThrottleStop sleep mode trick - I do not tested on T5810. - Lenovo ThinkStation P500 - I didn't have it in my hands so I didn't test it and I can't say anything about this machine.
Great video, shame X99 cpus can't natively run Win 11, and Win 10 is getting end of life soon, really looking forward to W-series Xeon chips becoming the new meta, even without overclocking they perform way better than you might expect.
habving them run windows 11 is really easy though. Just google it and it will give you a set of very basic changes you have to make to get it to install.
"a Ryzen 7 7800X3D cant hold 60FPS in the City" i can actually agree on that, i have a 7800X3D with a 4080Super and have with RT at 3440x1440 at Ultra always strangely dips in the City, one time even under 40FPS
Dude I looove some x99 and AliExpress content. I know you already covered RX580 but if there any you could cover the poor people RX 580 (2048sp) and even a RX 550 that would be fantastic.
Now is hard to get working 2048sp in Europe, i ordered 4 all have issues, SOYO, MILLSE and two no-name. Better is find a local deal on GPUs. I got 1660Super for 100Euro
You can get a z420 water cooler and use a i7 6850k with 4 channel ecc memory on an old z440 mobo (ecc won't be utilized but will still work). Cooler cost $45, cpu cost $40, mobo $35, and ram is $60 for 64gbs but all you need is 16gb for less than $20. About the cheapest gaming machine you can buy for the performance.
6:13 the devs really need to add an extra compiling screen on PC or something just so you can get into the game without stuttering into the stratosphere. I don’t play the game that often as it is you can’t just hop in and play until a match later
Im currently running a fairly rare E5-2679v4 at 103.5BCLK with an rx 7900xtx for a couple months now and its been great! unfortunately though, even while being on a custom loop with BOTH a 360 and 420mm radiator for the CPU alone, the combination of components gets very hot in my small room and its almost unbearable without a fan pointed at me. Its such a wacky build though that I cant help but feel proud of it regardless of the faults. Perhaps once ei get a waterblock for my GPu it might help out a slight bit.
I have a 1660 v3 overclocked to only 4ghz thanks to my limited cooler master hyper t4 xD. Great vídeo, I really like your content. The benchmark results are with meltdown & spectre protection enabled?
I had a 5960x at 4.5ghz and moved to an i3 12100f at 5.1ghz, the difference was noticeable. Maybe the i7 was faster if the i3 was stock I overclocked the i3 right away
These chips if get a good one can easily Run 4.7ghz. 8/16 AND the MAGIC of this generations is the amount of UNCORE clock you can hit... they work stock around 3.3ghz i think and can do easily 4 or 4.2ghz... is HUGE the difference.
I'm surprised these are still around. They were good value during the shortages a few years ago, but now...meh. That said, I still have a dual processor one even if I rarely use it Don't get me wrong though, I still appreciate you testing these out for funsies!
The desire to have more cores, doesn't always leads to more performance. I am more one of a EFFICIENCY viewpoint. Getting the CPU that does the job well enough using a good but not to much amount of power. Get the job done but don't push things too far. That always stopped me from going 32 cores 64 threads.
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"This X99 Xeon beats a 12th Gen i3... but at what cost?"
UNLIMITED POWEEEEEEEEEEEER !!!
- Is it possible to learn that kind of power?
+ Not from 12th Gen i3
if you pushing enough power to get it to 4.8-5.0ghz it will trade blows with a 5600x3d but with like 300-400 watt tdp
🤣🤣🤣 ...to quote Sheev...
@@josephdias5859 You can overclock the 12100F to 5ghz with an Asrock b760m that cost $100. With that kind of single core performance the 12100f can beat the 5600x3D in some games, and pulls 60-80w while doing it. Mine is overclocked to 5.1-5.2ghz with 4800 ddr5 overclocked to 6800mhz, averages 150-180fps in Warzone 1440p. The motherboard ram and CPU costs less than $250. Can’t beat that price to performance with much these days.
it's the TDP. The cost is the TDP 😂
Finally upgraded from my ol trusty 5820k to a R7 7800X3D last year. Honestly it was still putting up a decent fight but it was time.
I went from i7-4700MQ to i7-12700K.
If the R7 7800X3D was launched as an APU with 12 cores, i would own it instead of the i7-12700K (AMD had nothing similar to it).
@@saricubra2867there are some rumors about amd adding 3dvcache to next gen consoles
I went from a AMD fx 6350 to a 7800x3d.
@@НААТ My old Haswell laptop i7 destroys that FX chip. Fun fact, it performs like an i7-3770 while using a third of the power.
@@saricubra2867 not overclocked you are. My cinebench score was way above the i7-3770.My cpu was running at 4.8ghz with 2.6 on the Northbridge using 2400 DDR3 ram. But I do admit that thing was power Hungry as fuck. Lasted me from 2016 and still kicking it tho suprisingly. Altho my Northbridge is starting to become unstable
I found a Asrock x99 extreme 4 at a local college surplus store that had been marked down to $20 USD. That's practically a steal at that point. Until such time I would acquire something like an 6900k or equivalent Xeon, I've got a E5-2667 V3 I got for $8 on eBay.
I love this platform
you will not have any reasonable performance benefit from upgrading, especially considering, that 2667 one of the highest stock clocks. Honestly 6850k vs 2666 felt the same
highway robbery of the best kind
2697 v3 seems to be great too. im almost buying one myself
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I'm using 2650v2 on China X79G motherboard and I'm so satisfied, even feel snapier than newer i5 8400
This is the equivalent of Trunks buffing the hell up to try and beat Perfect Cell
Except it would be more like master roshi
@@sig3ldunc4nI Man I love the intersection of two things I love.
Yeah Vegeta told him to not overclock 😂
Well, all those references went completely over my head. All I heard was /whoosh ...
My laptop R9 “you can’t hit me”
Bloody hell the videos are coming quick.
Ain't complaining about it though.
X99 is first generation of motherboards that supported NVMe, and you can even get them to support Resizable Bar, so it fair really well considering it's age, it's really one legendary generation
Edit: Ah fudge, that's for Z97 and 4th Gen Intel, not X99
First with ddr4 I believe too?
You can basically forget x79 for nvme support.
Its technically possible but for most motherboards it's patchy
@@twanheijkoop6753 I was able to follow a guide on winraid (now hosted by level1techs) pretty easily. They have a very compatible tiny UEFI module you can add to the BIOS. Or just use a Clover NVMe enabled boot drive, like a SATA Disk on Module or low profile USB thumb drive. Also Sandy and Ivy bridge support NVMe this way. Including X79.
i can rebar working on sandy bridge but you need a z87 the older boards dont work
The 4790k when overclocked is still a pretty good CPU honestly. I had no idea you could get them to accept resizable bar!! That’s awesome thanks for the info!!
Thanks to Miyconst, I was able to build a budget x99 system with the Machinist x99 PR8 and the xeon 2666v3. It has 10 cores/20 threads and turbos over 3ghz at stock. It pairs well with cards up to the 6600xt. I got the board and CPU for less than 40$ shipped to my country.
What card have you paired it with?
@@AJ-jq3hman rx580 (actual 2304sp, not 2048) I got for 60$
Just wish I had those good deals here but I quite gave up on building a X99 PC
Don't the DDR3 RAM bother you?
@yourbluewaffle how has the PR8 worked out for you with respect to DDR3 compatibility and the VRMs? Been thinking about picking one up with a 2666v3 to use all the DDR3 I have laying around. Any issues with the board?
@@chedds ddr3 is fine. It's the gpu that's gonna be the bottleneck anyways.
Haswell really was ahead of it’s time. My z97 has usb 3.1 ports and a m.2 slot that I recently put a 2tb ssd in. At the time it was seen as an incremental improvement over ivy bridge but these creature comforts plus avx2 support means that a simple swap of my 980ti to a 1080ti (equivalent, im running a 12gb Titan Xp) a little down the road still has the ancient pc pretty relevant.
just put a 2080 TI in my xeon system and I get great performance I could probably upgrade to a 4090 and not have a problem since I see my GPU at 100% and my dual cpu system only go up to like 7 percent utilization
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@@TruthDoesNotExist a 4090 would make that xeon cry.
@@ChunkyWaterisReal a 4090 is 5 times as powerful as a 2080 TI, 7 percent times 5 equals 35% so my CPU would still be fine. also I have 2 processors, not 1 (32 cores)
@@TruthDoesNotExist i mean if you're doing workloads with linear scaling across ALL cores then yeah.
I'm quite surprised by your take in this video, since it wasn't that long ago you were singing the praises of the i7-5960X which is essentially the same chip as the 1660v3.
I'm running a j-batch 1660v3 @ 4.3GHz in my daily workstation with 32GB DDR4-2400 on my old AsRock X99-Extreme4, coupled with a 6700XT, and this machine still continues to REALLY impress me. The 1660v3 was an upgrade from my venerable 5820K that I'd been running since 2015 at 4.4GHz (the Xeon was cheaper and easier to get ahold of than a 5960X at the time), and I still feel no need to upgrade away from X99 with the Xeon. I do more productivity than gaming, but even at 4K I'm still getting performance I'm perfectly happy with! I definitely made the right choice back in 2015 throwing the extra cash at X99 instead of Z97.
Only drawback of course is my power bill (my partner runs a 1680v4 workstation day-to-day lmfao) and the space heater quality of this machine :D
Sixteen months is a long time! Given how different things are in mid-2024 compared to Jan 2023, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to change my mind. Not to mention, apparently I didn't think power consumption was important enough in that first review to warrant buying a watt meter. I know better now!
I don't have to tell you how good your CPU is, but I think it's only fair to warn potential X99 buyers what they're getting themselves into in 2024.
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X99 for life!
Still my go-to suggestion for cheap gaming or home server build.
Still looking for some of those rare 16xx V3 cpus!
Got my hands on a 1680v3 for a fairly cheap price not to long ago. Although the 1650v3 and 1660v3 were the most fun to overclock.
That was back in the day that the perfect-yield first-pick top-bin parts were always chosen for Xeons.
The top-tier top-rung top-price power-user enthusiast-gamer consumer i7-5960X was actually an E5-1680v3 which was downbinned because it couldn't run as fast. And the rest of the Haswells (then later the Haswell-E's) followed the same pattern on each rung.
This misses the appeal in the X99 Xeons.... their true value is in being able to get an 8/10/12/14/16/18 core CPU for dirt cheap, and sticking it in a dirt cheap AliExpress motherboard with dirt cheap quad channel ECC memory.
exactly, the 8 core xeons are lower end, I upgraded my dad from the 8 cores x99 xeon to a 18 core 2699 and it was night and day difference
You wont improve single core performance with more cores, which is what many applications still need to perform well.
@@max_uaminecraft1827 No - but you will get better price to performance. The point of buying used X99 chips is obviously not to get the best performance in the world, it's to get great performance for a fraction of the cost of a newer platform.
@@max_uaminecraft1827 Yes, but u can shift apps to diffrent cores.
I use 2670v3 and last 2 cores are discord, spotify..
x99 2697 v3 x2 here. run two systems in single and dual. have been a great way to recycle items and reduce e-waste!
The US government just dumped 127k cores worth of Haswell E onto the secondary market, so I'd expect them to be cheap and readily available for years to come. They just don't have the performance per watt to actually be worth buying if your electricity isn't basically free.
are you payng a thousand dollars a kilowatt hour? I have 2 of these plus 5 other computers running in my house 24/7 and it only accounts for less than 5% of my energy bill. moderrn intel chips can be even worse in effeciency than these. spending hundreds of extra dollars to pinch pennies off your electricity bill is a pretty dumb move when you can get these for 10 dollars
@@TruthDoesNotExist in some places in the world, especially Europe, it can feel that expensive
😮
@@flamingscar5263 I have super high energy costs. my bill is 500 a month here in florida when it used to be 200. almost none of my bill goes towards all the old "inefficient" computers I have. maybe 10 to 15 dollars a month in energy for computers and I have 5 systems running at all times
It costs practically nothing here in Québec too
That's why I switched from X99 to Ryzen 5600 2 weeks ago.
Haswell/Broadwell is just too old to run high framerates in competitive games
My feeling when I consider anything over 90 fps a high framerate:
@@nesyboi9421 I couldn't really reach 144FPS+ to use backlight strobing effectively
(usually was around 120 but down to 70 in more demanding shooters)
Few non-comp games gained healthy 30% from the switch but most games gained 100% to even 300% higher framerate which blew me away
@@nesyboi9421 I consider anything over 60fps a high framerate lol. I'm happy with 60fps on my i9-10900X + GTX 1080, I only have a 60Hz monitor anyway. Though I don't play any competitive games
CRTs: look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
@@Pasi123 Genuinely same about being happy with 60 fps, I just don't consider 60 fps a high framerate, I consider it a good framerate. The standard that should be met. 30-55 is playable framerate albeit undesirable, and below that is a low or unplayable framerate depending on how bad it is.
3 months ago, bought full server blade w i75960x water cooled + GTX 970 no ssd for $160 CA. went back after validating the whole thing and since the gpu was bad on the one i got em down to 100$ each. bough x 3. all of those GPU's worked!!! so happy x99 Gigabye G1 Gaming p5 UD mobo! then went back bough 4 more. doing a giveaway or at cost sale for upgrades on all 4 of those PCs. hmu if ur in central CA. Buyers market over here.
How much are you asking
Ти розумніший за автора цього ролику . )
@@munupangani7754 150$ for validated pc minus ssd
@@munupangani7754 100$
i bought my X99 F8 combo with E5-2696(18 cores, 32 threads) v3 and 64gb ddr4 for less than a modern i3 cpu alone. when I test in cpuz my setup has a higher score than a i9 11th gen. let that sink in
What speed ddr4 did you use?
Approximately few months back I grabbed myself a Chinese motherboard with 8 RAM slots for $95. Surprisingly found 256GB (32×8) 2666mhz ECC registered as well for dirt cheap $130 ish. Paired it with a 1680v4 costing $85 (but man it came after like nearly 2 months). Paired these up with a decent 650W deepcool PSU and a decent airflow case. Everything got me fired up less than $500. I had a spare 3070 lying around so added that ($350 at that time from second hand market)
Before that I do have two other systems with an intel i9-9900k + RTX 2080ti (which costed me about $2500+ back in the day) and a somewhat newer Ryzen 7 5700x paired with an RX 6950xt which was build about a year ago.
I must say the xeon build puts those two new systems to shame when it comes to value. True it costs a bit more wattage but not that much. I'm really really surprised actually. Using 3 of them simultaneously but recently finding myself using the Xeon system more often hmmm
I had my Xeon W3690 OC'd to 4.6ghz for 5 years or so. Finally upgraded to a Ryzen 9 5950x. Yes, huge performance upgrade. But damn....that thing still keeps up mostly. Even had it with a Samsung 950 pro nvme drive to boot from. It's still in my living room for the kids to play with. Both have a 6950XT gpu. Unlocked Xeons are no joke. Back then, the Xeons where made from the core of the silicon slug. The I 7's where just outside of that. So these Xeons were really durable.
Any instructions to OC xeon?
My e5 1680V3 is overclocked all core @ 4.8 ghz, it performs on par with my 10700k @ 5 ghz in most benchmarks.
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I'm not sure if I want to know which one burns more power doing this :D
but what cost?
I built a complete x99 system for $160 that games exceptionally well. I think this video really misses the point of using Xeons from the Broadwell and Haswell generations. When engaging in a topic such as this a good amount of research needs to be done is you are not familiar with the subject. Knowing the tricks to doing this on the cheap is how it works. I bought my last Dell T5810 for $60 with the following included (and in some cases modified): in16GB single stick ram which was swapped out for 4 8gb sticks... got to have quad channel- net additional cost ~$20; used 1tb M.2 Nvme I paid $40 and a NVME to PCIE adapter for $6 as I recall..plugs right in runs great; 2 2tb HDD were included in the system; a 1620v3 was included in the system which I replaced with a 1660v3 (I have 2 1660v3s that clock faster than my 1680v3) for $15 that clocks easily to 4.4GHz- have done Cinebench at 4.6GHz but I have to use 1.35v+ which I really don't want to do for ~5% more performance); $20 10 pin to dual 8 pin PCIE adapter to power my 3080ti off of the extra CPU port on the power distribution board;Quadro k2200 I sold for ~$20 after my cost for shipping. For ~$150 I have a full system that will easily compete with if not outperform the systems in this video (and many new systems today) at a cost that was close to the CPU and motherboard of the other systems. At What Cost?
I'm actually using Strix X99 with E5-2666v3 and RTX2070 , i also have platform with i7 9700K.
When i did timespy benchmark 2666v3 beats I7 9 gen easly (7837 vs 6504).
Currently i'm going to sell i7 and stay with E5 for few more years...
My E5 2666v3 with RTX2070 gets 8397 points in timespy benchmark without any O.C
You can’t go wrong with a Machinist MR9A, 2698v3 turbo unlocked and 4x8gb 2133mt/s ecc ram for ~$120. You’ll get just 2-3% less fps than the OC’ed 4.3Ghz 1660v3 thanks to the 40MB L3 cache and not need any special cooling past a $20 4 heat pipe.
With the x99, you do have some additional gear ratios when tinkering with BCLK overclocking so things like DMI/PCIe run at their correct clock rates but permitting 125 Mhz or 166 Mhz base clocks reaching the processor socket. This is how you can hit much higher clocks on the E5 v3 or E5 v4 series chips with locked *maximum* multiplier. Most CPUs to be able to take a 66% overclock due to the base block improvement but the multiplier can be decreased to move things back into a sane range for stability. This is how you'd get a 4.5 Ghz clock on the E5-2630 v4 and its 10 cores or 4.4 Ghz on the E5-2690's 18 cores. You do need a good cooler for these types of overclocks and a good VRM to supply all the necessary power to the socket. Be prepared to double or even triple the amount of power compared to their default clocks.
Another thing that can improve cooling in general is sanding/polishing these processors. These chips are old and inexpensive enough (for me at least) that I wouldn't worry about voiding warranties to flatting the integrated heat spreader. Similarly I'd do the same to the heat sink/water block base so they'd match. Combine that with liquid metal and a good copper base on the heat sink/water block and you can radically drop temperatures or push the chip a bit more.
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I wish this were true but it doesn’t seem to be. I can’t get my machine stable with anything more than a 104 BCLK, maybe I need to increase CPU input power? Or drop multiplier? It seems it will be impossible to get 125mhz and if I did then I would need to drop the multiplier so much that I’ll be back to the same clocks of the multiplier being maxed out.
I’m curious of your process though. If you have advice I’ll try to implement it. Thank you
@@ChidiOable It is a ratio setting that you’re looking for. If you’re making adjustments with raw number like that, chances are that you’re altering the raw BCLK which indeed doesn’t go much beyond 100 MHz.
The other thing is that when you find the ratio adjustment, you’ll need to drop your CPU multiplier down as once the higher ratio has been applied it’ll other wise have a 25% overclock on it (CPU clock moves from 100 MHz -> 125 MHz for the multiplier while BCLK for PCIe remains at 100 MHz).
You can adjust both the ratio and the BCLK. That 104 MHz BCLK would means that the CPU is being feed 130 MHz before the multiplier.
Where that ratio lies depends on the motherboard.
@@powerpower-rg7bk Okay, I’ll try to see if I can get this to work. Do you suggest I adjust CPU straps as well or do I just adjust the BLCK ratio? My CPU is E5 - 2696 V3
Do you by any chance have a write up that has more info on how to do this?
Thank you.
Also doesn’t TDP limits come into play and even if I succeed with the ratio won’t the PL1 and 2 limits just keep down clocking the cpu?
@@powerpower-rg7bk Okay, I’ll try to see if I can get this to work. Do you suggest I adjust CPU straps as well or do I just adjust the BLCK ratio? My CPU is E5 - 2696 V3
Do you by any chance have a write up that has more info on how to do this?
Thank you.
Also doesn’t TDP limits come into play and even if I succeed with the ratio won’t the PL1 and 2 limits just keep down clocking the cpu?
In my experience these make more sense if you get your hands on an off lease workstation like a Dell Precision or Lenovo (Thinkstation?) and drop in a GPU and are good to go. Alot of companies dump palettes of the things.
Я вирішив , що це якийсь йолоп-продавець . Він не знайомий з моделями процессорів , але хоче продати своє лайно .)
The most impressive thing for me is how low the CPU temperature is. For someone live in tropical regon like me, my cpu, while idle, can't even goes below 50 degree during summer. Anything below 70 Celcius during gaming is just COOL.
Get a z420 water cooler if you have a 2011 mobo. Best cpu cooler for Xeons of that time period and you'll never go above 60°C EVER.
In my opinion the point is: If you already own such a system -->money has been payed
Miyconst really is the X99 encyclopedia
This has inspired me to dig out that old ASUS X99-E-10G WS I stuck on a shelf years ago. That was an absolute beast of a board back in its day. And I just got given an old Proliant Gen9 with two E5-2687w V3 CPU's. One of those should be tasty in that board! That generation allowed up to 4 x16 PCI-E slots. Seems we have downgraded ever since with my current Z790 only supporting one.
I've recently been really impressed with intel 4th gen as of recently, with a development/gaming budget build I did. And that was with a 4590 i5 4 core 4 thread, keen to get a cheap 4770k or 4790 and see how that goes with the gpu I paired it with (gtx 1080 fe)
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After going from an X58 Xeon X5675 @ 4.8GHz to a Ryzen 5 3600X in 2019, and then to a 5800X in 2021, the performance upgrade has of course been nice, but what I noticed most was that my air conditioning was actually effective during summer again. That Xeon could peak power at ~320W, and compared with my 5800X that rarely draws more than 110W, I learned my lesson. What you save in initial cost for these chips, you end up paying for with suffering (and electricity).
Worrying about cpu power draw really become a concern when its hot where you live. I have a 5900x and I slightly undervolt/underclock and the temp went from 80c to 60c during busy part of gaming. It too probably only draw less than 110w most of the time. Only exception is blender/video rendering.
I got 4.6 out of my e5 -1660v3 and 4.7 out of my e5-1680v3 They're pretty capable chips.
0:31 - Vsauce is that you 😮?
I’m not going to lie. I watch your videos for the music😊
My 4.4ghz 6850K is still putting up a worthy fight. I even did a BIOS mod on my board to unlock Resizable BAR for better performance with modern GPUs. But it is finally starting to show its age. I'm looking pretty closely at one of the 9000X3D's, so that i can build my first new PC in nearly a decade.
I want to see a proper gaming review of the E7-8893 v4 . A quad core CPU with 60MB L3 cache (15mb per core is more than X3D from AMD)
The 16XX xeons don't make any sense from a budget standpoint. They go for way too much because of the ability to O.C. them clock. If you are willing to fiddle around with bios or you can find someone to make you a custom bios using one of the higher end cpu's, with the max turbo unlocked on all cores, gets you way more performance per dollar. Of course it also potentially gets you way more heat and way more power draw. It does limit you as far as not being able to use a v4 the turbo bios mod doesn't seem to effect them. I still use an x99 system that I've been running for years and the e5-2699 v3 is pretty banging.
I'm about to retire my 6850K from daily driver use, replacing it with a 5600X. But for no reason beyond curiosity, I've purchased a Xeon E5-2699 v3 to pop into the X99 board. No gaming, no on-line excursions once it's up and running, but it should be fun to play with.
I got a cheap x99 combo for 150 dollars 3 years ago and still rock solid.
I put a 1660v3 into a sub £70 Lenovo workstation. It actually does alright paired with an RX6600 and 32GB RAM in quad channel.
im using dual xeon e5 2699 v3 unlocked and undervolt on cheap chinese mb. its stable at 3.3ghz for all 36 core 72 threads. disabling 2 core for each cpu can give me 3.5ghz all core. but at what cost? 2x145 Watt all the time for cpu only
Xeon has been trendy for years and for a reason because they are really worth it for the price
I'm still using my ASUS RVE from 2014 with 5960x and don't feel the need to change. If somebody told me years ago that I will ever have a platform that I would use for 10 years I woudn't believe :D What I did over the time was to upgrade video card from 4x R9 290 to 1080ti and now 3080ti (I pull the trigger of this platform exactly because of that 4x crossfire back then) Also changed the 5960x CPU once with another 5960x I got from a friend because it's overclocks better. Few years ago I bought 8x 8GB BDie memory which works at 3200 14-14-14, the max that this CPU IMC supports and I have memory bandwidth of about 90GB/s, something that is impossible for even the latest mainstream i9 CPU with DDR5 :)
Too bad they do not make decent overclocking platforms with at least 4 memory channels nowadays so there is nothing that I could buy for upgrade.
I went for the 2699v3, I know is not the best when it comes to a day to day use for a pc because of the tdp being high and the high core count means less clock speed for gaming and all that but I still like it paired with a 1080ti, I use this computer as a day to day pc and also for network virtualization and server so I use my main ssd to boot into windows but also use another 12tb disk when I work on virtualization with esxi, this computer saved me from spending more on modern hardware or having 2 different computers, it's all in one
I had one of these in 2015 and let me tell ya, they made for really good heaters at stock because the damn ass MSI motherboard I had refuses to allow overclocking of it
Meanwhile like 2-3 years ago i got a Fatal1ty X99X Killer and a 6950x for ~$100 and i currently use as a plex server. I think i have a very small multiplier overclock and with quad channel memory. Not a powerhouse, but works good enough for a plex server.
Had one of these for a while, which I ran at 4.40 GHz/ 1.30v. It was very hot and power hungry and definitely much less comfortable to run, IMO, than my current stock clocked 7950X, which is also very hot and power hungry. I replaced it with a Ryzen 7 3700X which offered a much better overall experience, despite being not much faster in many benchmarks (and slower in a few). It surprised me how the 3700X slashed the time it took to get to the main menu, in a large Fallout 4 mod list I had at the time, from around 50 seconds on the old Xeon, to 30 seconds.
That said, it holds up brilliantly for a processor coming up on 10 years of age, and your stock clocked benchmarks will have the power and heat issues more than sorted whilst still performing decently in your benchmarks. I found that up to about 3.80 - 3.90 GHz, these were extremely easy to cool. Plus, the ability to run quad channel DDR4-3200, which I also did, by simply having a decent kit with an XMP profile for it is fantastic for the first consumer DDR4 processor line, much better than first and second gen Ryzen, which had terrible IMCs compared to Intel at the time. Now it is the other way around, with DDR5 being more solid and reliable on AMD.
these Xeons are crap anything below 2670 is not worth it at all. you can get the 2699 18 core varients for slightly more and they crush both the lower end Xeons and most mid range or low end modern chips
@@TruthDoesNotExist Most of those are even worse due to locked multipliers and lower clock speeds, resulting in poor single threaded performance compared to even cheap modern chips.
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I have a 32 core Xeon system that would say otherwise, my dads system had an 8 core xeon like the one in the video and when I upgraded it to the 18 core 2699 it was a huge difference and way more powerful. I don't overclokc as it's not worth it so locked or unlocked multipliers I don't care about. a modern 4 core or even 8 core system can't beat an old 18 core in productivity even at 2.8ghz the cores are not nearly as weak as people think they are
AMD targeted Haswell EE, 5960X and 1660/80 v3 with 5800X3D LP LC and I have one. Considered 5960X before Vermeer launch and at R5K run end in June 2022 bought into 7 nm purposely to get off the process train for TSMC 7 transistor endurance and 10-year life it's probably forever. All the Haswell octa hexa EE and for E5 core category frequency workstations parts are similar, good for their time and thank you for the salvage coverage the channel thanks you. mb
I really appreciate this review. And well... at $89 for a MB, CPU, and RAM still sounds like a pretty sweet deal looking at this data, even knowing its a dead end no upgrade platform
A nice extension to the test would be e5 2699 v3 with the TBU to see how it stacks up to the rest
I've bought 2 ali express "x99" boards and had one of them fail within a month. Not sure if I would recommend someone on a tight budget to take that risk
Years back the economics made more sense. Unless you live in a country where the economics are skewed, AM4 is a much better ultra budget platform now, even if it is dead.
That's why u pay with card, go to your bank and told them ask for "CHARGE BACK", that give u MC or Visa on your side.
Oh my God....that was terrible, sorry for your loss.... I think I won't try to buy a chinese X99 board...better the real X99 board right? Damn I was so tempted with the lower price of that chinese board...but the risk is to high I guess.
@@royrepie61 Ali express does also have a lot of relatively cheap b450 boards as well (and a good selection from well known brands). Unless you need the massive number of cores, a ryzen 5 3600 should outperform pretty much anything that fits in an x99 board in games anyways
@@DesFTW_ OK thanks for the tips 🙏
I love XEONs - cheap, massive, have many cores and draw power like a heater :D
My favourite is 22 cores Xeon v4 on chinese "Machinist" board
I'm chilling here with a bios modded Chinese board with a 2699V3 clocking 3.6 on all cores lol it's a beast
It's been over for X99 for a long time. Cheap B450 is 50 euros in eBay, throw in any 6 or 8 core you like and you're off to the race's.
"Repackaged in lies" made me chuckle a lot more than I care to admit.
I think I would like xeon with proper quad channel support. I'm trying to hook buddies up with emulation PCs with batocera, and CPUs are kind of the most important part. I have a 12700k and a 14100 CPU. I don't over clock so stock ipc and stability are most important to me not draw calls. I will give AliExpress a good look for quad channel ecc registered ram support.
old xeons are my favourite topic (since three years at least...) I still have a x79 biuld in my garage...
Upgraded my i6800k @ 4.2Ghz to a 7800X3D, The Finals and Helldivers 2 fps almost doubled with my 4080 Super at Ultlrawide 3440x1400 max detaills
would love to see x299 mobo with i7 7920x for example, in my region this combo costs 200$ seems reasonable
i have a xeon 2696 v4 system AND a i3 12100F system (ddr5 4800), both are gaming builds, they are comparable in gaming, BUT when encoding video, the xeon crushes it hands down.
Try disable hyper threading test too.
Better option for normal consumers would be to buy 12100f/12400f and b660m riptade (or b660m strix g for the ddr5) so you can overclock with external clock.
24MM AIO, oh man what a small water cooler, 360 and 420MM AIOs can be had for super cheap these days, ive seen cheaper models around $60 here in the U.S, you might look into buying one.
Good job on the video. Overall very informative. I'm looking to get a 1680 v2 myself for budget reasons to upgrade my 6 core SB-E 3930k to an 8 core IB-E and PCI-E 3.0. My X79 Sabertooth already support it and CPU is unlocked. One thing I would like to see here is, OC power draw under lighter workloads like games, multimedia streaming or some small number thread apps which is more likely the use for higher frequencies, to not lag behind too much with relatively lower CPU frequencies. Also for efficiency we need to factor in the total work times as well. Total power spent on Blender is 31Wh vs 50Wh on 3.3 vs 4.3, giving you a %38 efficiency drop for %20 less time on completion. Not too bad for whenever you need faster completion and just crank it up. It already loses big with its stock power draw since newer and more powerful processors you compare them with draw WAY LESS power. For example stock vs stock, 5600X draws around half the power. Even after OC it would draw around 3/4th of what stock 1660 v3 would draw I guess. So if that's not a big issue for you, then OC is not that big if you need time more than efficiency. Tweaking voltages and frequencies to hit the sweet spot between efficiency and performance sounds like a fun fiddling though. 4.0-4.2 range on all cores sounds like it can bring in some interesting results.
You forgot to mention that E5-1660 V3 can only use 2133Mhz DDR4 Ram, So your RAM speed is affected.
Pretty sure it will default the CPU speed from 3200Mhz to 2133Mhz. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Most cheap X99 Chinese motherboard only goes to 2400MHz at most (There are some that can support higher Ram Speed).
If you have an actual x99 board you can run quad channel which even with 2133 is decent, but those boards can also handle higher speeds as well
@@DesFTW_ Planning to get 1 soon.
@@nuzhmizafidi2037 My Asus X99 deluxe, could run @3200(with 4 sticks, 32GB Total ) DDR 4 speeds with an Xeon e1660 v3 or 5280k, the first at 4500MHZ and 1.32v and the second @ 4300MHZ, also at 1.3v. Now is my son in law using it, but not overclocked, because of power. (ring bus @ 4000mhz, when overclocked).
The 4 channel memory will double the speed of the 2133mhz ram. As long as you install in the proper order in the 8 ram slots. You can use 4 slots and leave space between each dimm which will stay cooler as well.
@@nuzhmizafidi2037 I've got a 1660 v4 sitting in a dead Chinese fake x99 board (died after a month of server use). Might just grab another 2 sticks of ram and keep an eye out for a well priced board.
I had ones of these last year, got it on a custom water loop and a well priced 2nd hand asus x99 mobo, got to 4.6ghz on it
Excellent chip, but the ram support was a huge issue, couldn't get some kits running on it at all, which was so annoying i sold the entire thing
If you haven't done so already, perhaps look at quad channel vs dual channel RAM considering even a decade later quad channel still isn't a thing on mainstream consumer hardware with it still being only single or dual channel for RAM.
If I remember correctly Xeon E5-2699 v3 was a best buy - decent price, 18 cores so plenty of power and high single core boost to 3,6 GHz. Although to be honest I rather have first or second gen Ryzen for anything other then multithread workload. As for AliExpress cheap MB the one I had came with broken onboard audio, only 10/100 LAN, and dual instead of quad channel memory support. It might me just a bad luck or it might be that they are build a bit randomly from parts that available at the moment.
I have some issues with audio (only recognized if something is plugd in), 10/100/1000 LAN, Real quad channel 4 sticks of ECC 16GB 2133MHz, paired with 2670v3 on Machinist RS9 (DDR4) for MOBO+CPU+32GB cost me less then 100Euro on 11/11 clearance sell from "official" store
My desktop PC before it died a few months ago was running an i7 5960X. (not technically a Xeon) While performance dropped over the years, to a sad level compared to more modern CPUs, it was still OK for most things.
Two things that I found more problematic with it than anything else were the lack of iGPU and the Windows 11 lack of official support. The first because it was clearly problematic in video related activities, something which most youtubers and journalists forget to mention when promoting a dGPU for say video editing. An iGPU, especially Intel's, can help a lot. Even more so if you are not running the latest and greatest hardware. And no, I am not talking about just final exporting/rendering.
The second because it was a kick in the balls by Microsoft, Intel and I guess AMD which clearly they made such form of agreement to push new hardware when the older ones had no real problem running Windows 11. This makes me sick.
I was glad I bought it back in 2015, as it proved quite a beast for years to come. Yet annoyed with the previously mentioned points. So when a few months ago that PC died and I had/have no money to replace it, going back to my i7-4710HQ laptop was an interesting kick in the balls times 2. Funny. The iGPU is here, but daaaaamn it's so much slower for almost anything else. Well, FML and all.
Regarding the power consumption, my i7 5960X with the ASUS motherboard, also doesn't show proper wattage in any program, though at least it makes it very clear with the whole 0 or 1 (I don't remember right now) power consumption "metric".
Good video, thanks for sharing.
Surprisingly the X99 Xeon still managed to hold up well.
I think its best too keep single cpu xeons in the past and the multi cpus for cheap servers and workstations with high core count. my personal favourite is the e5-2683v4 which can be bought for 19,90€ and can make for a pretty cheap 32core system.
Xeon is just like me. It gets power consuming without any reason.
I waste my energy on useless things without any reasons.
mine xeon e5-2682 16core 32threads with rtx3060 dam this cpu not over clock. but no battleneck. nothing to say this xeon its beast. also good for editing 8k and 4k
The newest xeons that are currently cheap are Skylake. You're gonna get half the performance of the fastest thing out there, but you can get it for $25
The fact that the 12100f is only a 4 core with less l3 cache vs the old xeon chip with 8 core and more l3 cache…it does pretty dam well.
Also 12100f can still run ddr4 also and very high probability of running faster ddr4 rates then the xeon. But i would go with ddr5 since its much cheaper now.
12100 likely only use 40-50 watts max. I know the 12400f i had used 55-60 watts in cinebench r23 multi core load. There is zero reason to buy a 9 year old cpu/motherboard even its its only $20. You can buy cheap b or z motherboards for the 12th and newer gens which have full support for newer and faster features like pci gen5/gen4 support. Im still using a power supply from 8-9 years ago so you can still salvage parts for new build.
I have a E5-2697v3 running at 3.6Ghz all core (90mv undervolt). I find it's not nearly as power hungry as you may think, especially if the CPU isn't at 100%, which I doubt it will be with 14c/28t.
In games, It usually sits around 50~65w (BG3, RDR2 are my most played), even under heavier workloads I rarely saw anything above 85w, which isn't half bad.
Can't complain, considering the price (all used of course):
CPU: 2697v3 (6$)
Motherboard: Huananzhi x99 8M (68$)
RAM: 2x16GB Samsung ECC RAM (2133 MT/s) (16$)
GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 XC Ultra 8GB (125$)
Where did you buy RAM?
@@ultrawidegaming9402 ebay, data centers sometimes get rid of excess ram, I got mine in mint condition in original packaging
@@ultrawidegaming9402 I also wanna know
Well I decided to pair a 12100f with a 3090 fe. I found a special so the 12100f was £69.99 on Amazon , I chinama'd a b660 itx board 16 GB ddr4 3200, under clocked the 3090 back to 750vm. Now it uses about 270w add the CPU and that's less than 400w. It plays anything I throw at it at 4k ,doesn't want to burn my house down and uses less than 50 percent of the PSU(antec titanium 1000w). Tbh I wouldn't use the older systems due to the zillion watts they pull. Although I've almost pulled the trigger on the 14 core chips for giggles
>5:15
>DDR4 3200CL16
This is lucky and dangerous.
Boards sent to much voltage to the memory controller to get/try this timings. Like +0,5 volts and more.
I switched last your from x99 to AM5, because i7-6950x@4,3ghz was to slow for my new 7900xtx.
I think 6900xt is the edge for 1440p for 8/10Core overclocked x99 CPU.
With my 7900xtx I saw 60-70% GPU usage at 1440p with my i7-6950x in games.
But it's crazy how good the x99 platform was.
Back than 2014 you could buy a good entry board for 200€, 16GB DDR4 for 200€ and i7-5820k was under 350€ back then.
Now I pay 300€ for an AM5 board and get 4 sata ports.
Why do you think that DDR4 3200mhz would give +0,5V on memory? Im pretty sure a normal 3200mhz cl16 kit does 1,35V in comparison to the normal 1,2V so +0,15V which should be totally fine
@@ratlingzombie8705 I meant the system agent voltage of the CPU
@@ecchichanf didn't know that these voltages can automatically change. I will look into that, when im home.
@@ecchichanf it is still at stock voltage for me with DDR4 3200mhz cl16
do you have a link or brand name of the ram you used on the x99 board
Iceberg Tech, pushing his smart meter into the red for science.
In my e5-2680 v4 i tend to get better performance and 0.1% lows when using only 4 cores with hyperthreading.
Idk if the 35mb of l3 cache did something also the fact that it boost to 3.1ghz
meamwhile my 2673v4 had no performance increase when disabling cores to boost higher idk why
They’re also great for creating home servers!
When it comes to budget builds, Skylake is the new Haswell: better and faster RAM, better availability, better pricing, lower power consumption, ...
X299?
Depends where you are. Skylake chips even used are expensive even used on AliExpress in CAD currency
There's always the OEM route, like the HP Z440... granted that definitely nixes the idea of overclocking. But you definitely will have a lower cost of entry. Perfect for someone that's looking to start out PC gaming.
EDIT: It would seem you CAN overclock with the Z440. Seems like a no-brainer to go that route for sub $200.
z440 can be overclocked.
I have Z440 1650v3 @ 4,3Ghz and second machine Z440 1660v3 @ 4.0Ghz
@@colorado_hgc Good to know. I feel like that makes going with an off the shelf board irrelevant when you can get these with a 1650 or 1660 for well under $200. I've been toying with the idea of getting one to play around with. I think I'm definitely going to now.
@@TheGameBench on Z440 you can't overclock RAM, it only works at 2133 MT/s and you can't change latency of RAM, just like on any OEM platform. Z440 also doesn't support Resizable BAR.
Z440 have nice VRM section. On full load VRM have only 65*C - 68*C (measured by Infrared Thermometer)
If you would like to overclock the Z440 with ThrottleStop (or Intel XTU), you need to have BIOS v1.62 and use the sleep mode trick.
I set up Windows so that when I start the system it automatically goes to sleep, then I wake it up with the mouse or keyboard and I have my computer already overclocked 😉
Dell T5810 is the 2nd option where there is a BIOS with TurboUnlock function, and possibly (but I'm not sure) with ResizableBar
I also don't tested ThrottleStop in this machine (i builded it with 2666v3 locked procesor)
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this bios must be programed with CH341 hardware programer.
and this bios have windows key inside, I modified it using HXD and put there My key.
There is also a Lenovo ThinkStation P500, but I haven't had this machine in my hands and I can't say anything about it .😄
@@TheGameBench I wrote masive comment and YT delete it. LOL
@@TheGameBench on OEM machines you cannot change RAM settings, only SPD works (2133 MT/s and delays as saved in it)
- Z440 don't suport ResizableBAR, support overclocking over ThrottleStop (Intel XTU) and sleep mode trick. (unlocked 1650v3 and 1660v3)
- Z440 maybe possible support TurboUnlock, but I don't tested it. I have manual and bios fot it, but curently I don't have E5-2xxx v3 procesor to test it.
- Dell T5810 support TurboUnlock (there is a public BIOS for it, you must have CH341 programmmer) - ResizableBAR and ThrottleStop sleep mode trick - I do not tested on T5810.
- Lenovo ThinkStation P500 - I didn't have it in my hands so I didn't test it and I can't say anything about this machine.
Great video, shame X99 cpus can't natively run Win 11, and Win 10 is getting end of life soon, really looking forward to W-series Xeon chips becoming the new meta, even without overclocking they perform way better than you might expect.
habving them run windows 11 is really easy though. Just google it and it will give you a set of very basic changes you have to make to get it to install.
Looking on current state of Win 11 and everything around i'm gonna to linux (Steam OS) route
this is like a clapped out honda pulling up to a newer mustang and saying "hey my car can go just as fast as yours"
Im still on x99 v3...it runs hot😄
On the test setup list the i3 was i5 for some reason.
You didn't know about the legendary i5-12100?
LGA2011-3
"a Ryzen 7 7800X3D cant hold 60FPS in the City" i can actually agree on that, i have a 7800X3D with a 4080Super and have with RT at 3440x1440 at Ultra always strangely dips in the City, one time even under 40FPS
It was based on feedback from another commenter, but I couldn't verify it for myself so thanks for the confirmation!
Jeez I thought that chip couldn't possibly be bottlenecked
@@IcebergTech no problem
Dude I looove some x99 and AliExpress content. I know you already covered RX580 but if there any you could cover the poor people RX 580 (2048sp) and even a RX 550 that would be fantastic.
Now is hard to get working 2048sp in Europe, i ordered 4 all have issues, SOYO, MILLSE and two no-name. Better is find a local deal on GPUs. I got 1660Super for 100Euro
You can get a z420 water cooler and use a i7 6850k with 4 channel ecc memory on an old z440 mobo (ecc won't be utilized but will still work). Cooler cost $45, cpu cost $40, mobo $35, and ram is $60 for 64gbs but all you need is 16gb for less than $20. About the cheapest gaming machine you can buy for the performance.
I have an i7 8700k. What would be the best GPU to pair with it?
6:13 the devs really need to add an extra compiling screen on PC or something just so you can get into the game without stuttering into the stratosphere. I don’t play the game that often as it is you can’t just hop in and play until a match later
Im currently running a fairly rare E5-2679v4 at 103.5BCLK with an rx 7900xtx for a couple months now and its been great! unfortunately though, even while being on a custom loop with BOTH a 360 and 420mm radiator for the CPU alone, the combination of components gets very hot in my small room and its almost unbearable without a fan pointed at me. Its such a wacky build though that I cant help but feel proud of it regardless of the faults. Perhaps once ei get a waterblock for my GPu it might help out a slight bit.
I have a 1660 v3 overclocked to only 4ghz thanks to my limited cooler master hyper t4 xD.
Great vídeo, I really like your content.
The benchmark results are with meltdown & spectre protection enabled?
What X99 board & GPU do you use? Is it good for gaming?
5:23 ah, yes! i5 12100F! My favorite!
Watched the whole video, there is a reason why they are server/workstation chips...
I had a 5960x at 4.5ghz and moved to an i3 12100f at 5.1ghz, the difference was noticeable. Maybe the i7 was faster if the i3 was stock I overclocked the i3 right away
These chips if get a good one can easily Run 4.7ghz. 8/16 AND the MAGIC of this generations is the amount of UNCORE clock you can hit... they work stock around 3.3ghz i think and can do easily 4 or 4.2ghz... is HUGE the difference.
U can pull 3.3 on all cores on E5-v3.... On cheap china board
I'm surprised these are still around. They were good value during the shortages a few years ago, but now...meh. That said, I still have a dual processor one even if I rarely use it
Don't get me wrong though, I still appreciate you testing these out for funsies!
I have 5930k with a 2070 super and it is perfect match. It gets basically equivalent scores with 9600k overclocked to 4.9
The desire to have more cores, doesn't always leads to more performance.
I am more one of a EFFICIENCY viewpoint. Getting the CPU that does the job well enough using a good but not to much amount of power. Get the job done but don't push things too far.
That always stopped me from going 32 cores 64 threads.