This X99 Xeon beats a 12th Gen i3... but at what cost?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- Testing and overclocking the Intel Xeon E5-1660 v3 8-core 16-thread CPU in 10 popular and demanding games in 2024, using an RX 6900 XT discrete GPU, and comparing it to the i3-12100F.
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00:00 Intel E5-1660 v3 in 2024
00:44 The Perils of Overclocking X99
02:45 X99 Motherboards for Overclocking
04:56 Test System
05:28 Gaming Benchmarks
05:31 Benchmarks: Valorant
06:06 Benchmarks: Fortnite
06:40 Benchmarks: Counter Strike 2
07:16 Benchmarks: Call of Duty: Warzone
07:52 Benchmarks: Starfield
08:32 Benchmarks: Cyberpunk 2077
09:09 Benchmarks: The Last of Us
09:40 Benchmarks: Dragon’s Dogma 2
10:16 Benchmarks: Jedi Survivor
10:52 Benchmarks: Civilization VI
11:01 Synthetics: 3DMark Fire Strike & Time Spy
11:09 Synthetics: CPU-Z & Cinebench R23
11:24 Productivity Test: Davinci Resolve
11:48 Productivity Test: Blender
12:15 Conclusion
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"This X99 Xeon beats a 12th Gen i3... but at what cost?"
UNLIMITED POWEEEEEEEEEEEER !!!
- Is it possible to learn that kind of power?
+ Not from 12th Gen i3
if you pushing enough power to get it to 4.8-5.0ghz it will trade blows with a 5600x3d but with like 300-400 watt tdp
🤣🤣🤣 ...to quote Sheev...
@@josephdias5859 You can overclock the 12100F to 5ghz with an Asrock b760m that cost $100. With that kind of single core performance the 12100f can beat the 5600x3D in some games, and pulls 60-80w while doing it. Mine is overclocked to 5.1-5.2ghz with 4800 ddr5 overclocked to 6800mhz, averages 150-180fps in Warzone 1440p. The motherboard ram and CPU costs less than $250. Can’t beat that price to performance with much these days.
it's the TDP. The cost is the TDP 😂
Finally upgraded from my ol trusty 5820k to a R7 7800X3D last year. Honestly it was still putting up a decent fight but it was time.
I went from i7-4700MQ to i7-12700K.
If the R7 7800X3D was launched as an APU with 12 cores, i would own it instead of the i7-12700K (AMD had nothing similar to it).
@@saricubra2867there are some rumors about amd adding 3dvcache to next gen consoles
I went from a AMD fx 6350 to a 7800x3d.
@@elitepauper7400 My old Haswell laptop i7 destroys that FX chip. Fun fact, it performs like an i7-3770 while using a third of the power.
@@saricubra2867 not overclocked you are. My cinebench score was way above the i7-3770.My cpu was running at 4.8ghz with 2.6 on the Northbridge using 2400 DDR3 ram. But I do admit that thing was power Hungry as fuck. Lasted me from 2016 and still kicking it tho suprisingly. Altho my Northbridge is starting to become unstable
I found a Asrock x99 extreme 4 at a local college surplus store that had been marked down to $20 USD. That's practically a steal at that point. Until such time I would acquire something like an 6900k or equivalent Xeon, I've got a E5-2667 V3 I got for $8 on eBay.
I love this platform
you will not have any reasonable performance benefit from upgrading, especially considering, that 2667 one of the highest stock clocks. Honestly 6850k vs 2666 felt the same
highway robbery of the best kind
2697 v3 seems to be great too. im almost buying one myself
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I'm using 2650v2 on China X79G motherboard and I'm so satisfied, even feel snapier than newer i5 8400
This is the equivalent of Trunks buffing the hell up to try and beat Perfect Cell
Except it would be more like master roshi
@@sig3ldunc4nI Man I love the intersection of two things I love.
Yeah Vegeta told him to not overclock 😂
Well, all those references went completely over my head. All I heard was /whoosh ...
My laptop R9 “you can’t hit me”
Bloody hell the videos are coming quick.
Ain't complaining about it though.
X99 is first generation of motherboards that supported NVMe, and you can even get them to support Resizable Bar, so it fair really well considering it's age, it's really one legendary generation
Edit: Ah fudge, that's for Z97 and 4th Gen Intel, not X99
First with ddr4 I believe too?
You can basically forget x79 for nvme support.
Its technically possible but for most motherboards it's patchy
@@twanheijkoop6753 I was able to follow a guide on winraid (now hosted by level1techs) pretty easily. They have a very compatible tiny UEFI module you can add to the BIOS. Or just use a Clover NVMe enabled boot drive, like a SATA Disk on Module or low profile USB thumb drive. Also Sandy and Ivy bridge support NVMe this way. Including X79.
i can rebar working on sandy bridge but you need a z87 the older boards dont work
The 4790k when overclocked is still a pretty good CPU honestly. I had no idea you could get them to accept resizable bar!! That’s awesome thanks for the info!!
Haswell really was ahead of it’s time. My z97 has usb 3.1 ports and a m.2 slot that I recently put a 2tb ssd in. At the time it was seen as an incremental improvement over ivy bridge but these creature comforts plus avx2 support means that a simple swap of my 980ti to a 1080ti (equivalent, im running a 12gb Titan Xp) a little down the road still has the ancient pc pretty relevant.
just put a 2080 TI in my xeon system and I get great performance I could probably upgrade to a 4090 and not have a problem since I see my GPU at 100% and my dual cpu system only go up to like 7 percent utilization
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@@truthdoesnotexist a 4090 would make that xeon cry.
@@ChunkyWaterisReal a 4090 is 5 times as powerful as a 2080 TI, 7 percent times 5 equals 35% so my CPU would still be fine. also I have 2 processors, not 1 (32 cores)
@@truthdoesnotexist i mean if you're doing workloads with linear scaling across ALL cores then yeah.
Thanks to Miyconst, I was able to build a budget x99 system with the Machinist x99 PR8 and the xeon 2666v3. It has 10 cores/20 threads and turbos over 3ghz at stock. It pairs well with cards up to the 6600xt. I got the board and CPU for less than 40$ shipped to my country.
What card have you paired it with?
@@AJ-jq3hman rx580 (actual 2304sp, not 2048) I got for 60$
Just wish I had those good deals here but I quite gave up on building a X99 PC
Don't the DDR3 RAM bother you?
@yourbluewaffle how has the PR8 worked out for you with respect to DDR3 compatibility and the VRMs? Been thinking about picking one up with a 2666v3 to use all the DDR3 I have laying around. Any issues with the board?
@@chedds ddr3 is fine. It's the gpu that's gonna be the bottleneck anyways.
The US government just dumped 127k cores worth of Haswell E onto the secondary market, so I'd expect them to be cheap and readily available for years to come. They just don't have the performance per watt to actually be worth buying if your electricity isn't basically free.
are you payng a thousand dollars a kilowatt hour? I have 2 of these plus 5 other computers running in my house 24/7 and it only accounts for less than 5% of my energy bill. moderrn intel chips can be even worse in effeciency than these. spending hundreds of extra dollars to pinch pennies off your electricity bill is a pretty dumb move when you can get these for 10 dollars
@@truthdoesnotexist in some places in the world, especially Europe, it can feel that expensive
😮
@@flamingscar5263 I have super high energy costs. my bill is 500 a month here in florida when it used to be 200. almost none of my bill goes towards all the old "inefficient" computers I have. maybe 10 to 15 dollars a month in energy for computers and I have 5 systems running at all times
It costs practically nothing here in Québec too
That was back in the day that the perfect-yield first-pick top-bin parts were always chosen for Xeons.
The top-tier top-rung top-price power-user enthusiast-gamer consumer i7-5960X was actually an E5-1680v3 which was downbinned because it couldn't run as fast. And the rest of the Haswells (then later the Haswell-E's) followed the same pattern on each rung.
I'm quite surprised by your take in this video, since it wasn't that long ago you were singing the praises of the i7-5960X which is essentially the same chip as the 1660v3.
I'm running a j-batch 1660v3 @ 4.3GHz in my daily workstation with 32GB DDR4-2400 on my old AsRock X99-Extreme4, coupled with a 6700XT, and this machine still continues to REALLY impress me. The 1660v3 was an upgrade from my venerable 5820K that I'd been running since 2015 at 4.4GHz (the Xeon was cheaper and easier to get ahold of than a 5960X at the time), and I still feel no need to upgrade away from X99 with the Xeon. I do more productivity than gaming, but even at 4K I'm still getting performance I'm perfectly happy with! I definitely made the right choice back in 2015 throwing the extra cash at X99 instead of Z97.
Only drawback of course is my power bill (my partner runs a 1680v4 workstation day-to-day lmfao) and the space heater quality of this machine :D
Sixteen months is a long time! Given how different things are in mid-2024 compared to Jan 2023, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to change my mind. Not to mention, apparently I didn't think power consumption was important enough in that first review to warrant buying a watt meter. I know better now!
I don't have to tell you how good your CPU is, but I think it's only fair to warn potential X99 buyers what they're getting themselves into in 2024.
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With the x99, you do have some additional gear ratios when tinkering with BCLK overclocking so things like DMI/PCIe run at their correct clock rates but permitting 125 Mhz or 166 Mhz base clocks reaching the processor socket. This is how you can hit much higher clocks on the E5 v3 or E5 v4 series chips with locked *maximum* multiplier. Most CPUs to be able to take a 66% overclock due to the base block improvement but the multiplier can be decreased to move things back into a sane range for stability. This is how you'd get a 4.5 Ghz clock on the E5-2630 v4 and its 10 cores or 4.4 Ghz on the E5-2690's 18 cores. You do need a good cooler for these types of overclocks and a good VRM to supply all the necessary power to the socket. Be prepared to double or even triple the amount of power compared to their default clocks.
Another thing that can improve cooling in general is sanding/polishing these processors. These chips are old and inexpensive enough (for me at least) that I wouldn't worry about voiding warranties to flatting the integrated heat spreader. Similarly I'd do the same to the heat sink/water block base so they'd match. Combine that with liquid metal and a good copper base on the heat sink/water block and you can radically drop temperatures or push the chip a bit more.
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X99 for life!
Still my go-to suggestion for cheap gaming or home server build.
Still looking for some of those rare 16xx V3 cpus!
Got my hands on a 1680v3 for a fairly cheap price not to long ago. Although the 1650v3 and 1660v3 were the most fun to overclock.
That's why I switched from X99 to Ryzen 5600 2 weeks ago.
Haswell/Broadwell is just too old to run high framerates in competitive games
My feeling when I consider anything over 90 fps a high framerate:
@@nesyboi9421 I couldn't really reach 144FPS+ to use backlight strobing effectively
(usually was around 120 but down to 70 in more demanding shooters)
Few non-comp games gained healthy 30% from the switch but most games gained 100% to even 300% higher framerate which blew me away
@@nesyboi9421 I consider anything over 60fps a high framerate lol. I'm happy with 60fps on my i9-10900X + GTX 1080, I only have a 60Hz monitor anyway. Though I don't play any competitive games
CRTs: look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
@@Pasi123 Genuinely same about being happy with 60 fps, I just don't consider 60 fps a high framerate, I consider it a good framerate. The standard that should be met. 30-55 is playable framerate albeit undesirable, and below that is a low or unplayable framerate depending on how bad it is.
This has inspired me to dig out that old ASUS X99-E-10G WS I stuck on a shelf years ago. That was an absolute beast of a board back in its day. And I just got given an old Proliant Gen9 with two E5-2687w V3 CPU's. One of those should be tasty in that board! That generation allowed up to 4 x16 PCI-E slots. Seems we have downgraded ever since with my current Z790 only supporting one.
3 months ago, bought full server blade w i75960x water cooled + GTX 970 no ssd for $160 CA. went back after validating the whole thing and since the gpu was bad on the one i got em down to 100$ each. bough x 3. all of those GPU's worked!!! so happy x99 Gigabye G1 Gaming p5 UD mobo! then went back bough 4 more. doing a giveaway or at cost sale for upgrades on all 4 of those PCs. hmu if ur in central CA. Buyers market over here.
How much are you asking
Ти розумніший за автора цього ролику . )
@@munupangani7754 150$ for validated pc minus ssd
In my experience these make more sense if you get your hands on an off lease workstation like a Dell Precision or Lenovo (Thinkstation?) and drop in a GPU and are good to go. Alot of companies dump palettes of the things.
Я вирішив , що це якийсь йолоп-продавець . Він не знайомий з моделями процессорів , але хоче продати своє лайно .)
x99 2697 v3 x2 here. run two systems in single and dual. have been a great way to recycle items and reduce e-waste!
The haswell chips make me nostalgic, recently went from an i7 5930k, had that fucker at 4.6ghz and upgraded to a 7950x3d. The chips certainly has improved lmao
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I’m not going to lie. I watch your videos for the music😊
I've recently been really impressed with intel 4th gen as of recently, with a development/gaming budget build I did. And that was with a 4590 i5 4 core 4 thread, keen to get a cheap 4770k or 4790 and see how that goes with the gpu I paired it with (gtx 1080 fe)
Він ніколи цього не порівняє , доки не здихається свого хламу . Звісно , що обидва твої процессори кращі за це лайно !
Great 👍
Try disable hyper threading test too.
Im currently running a fairly rare E5-2679v4 at 103.5BCLK with an rx 7900xtx for a couple months now and its been great! unfortunately though, even while being on a custom loop with BOTH a 360 and 420mm radiator for the CPU alone, the combination of components gets very hot in my small room and its almost unbearable without a fan pointed at me. Its such a wacky build though that I cant help but feel proud of it regardless of the faults. Perhaps once ei get a waterblock for my GPu it might help out a slight bit.
My e5 1680V3 is overclocked all core @ 4.8 ghz, it performs on par with my 10700k @ 5 ghz in most benchmarks.
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I'm not sure if I want to know which one burns more power doing this :D
but what cost?
I had my Xeon W3690 OC'd to 4.6ghz for 5 years or so. Finally upgraded to a Ryzen 9 5950x. Yes, huge performance upgrade. But damn....that thing still keeps up mostly. Even had it with a Samsung 950 pro nvme drive to boot from. It's still in my living room for the kids to play with. Both have a 6950XT gpu. Unlocked Xeons are no joke. Back then, the Xeons where made from the core of the silicon slug. The I 7's where just outside of that. So these Xeons were really durable.
Any instructions to OC xeon?
What about testing the 2687w v2? it can go up to 4ghz on stock settings
I had ones of these last year, got it on a custom water loop and a well priced 2nd hand asus x99 mobo, got to 4.6ghz on it
Excellent chip, but the ram support was a huge issue, couldn't get some kits running on it at all, which was so annoying i sold the entire thing
I had one of these in 2015 and let me tell ya, they made for really good heaters at stock because the damn ass MSI motherboard I had refuses to allow overclocking of it
Meanwhile like 2-3 years ago i got a Fatal1ty X99X Killer and a 6950x for ~$100 and i currently use as a plex server. I think i have a very small multiplier overclock and with quad channel memory. Not a powerhouse, but works good enough for a plex server.
would love to see x299 mobo with i7 7920x for example, in my region this combo costs 200$ seems reasonable
I got a cheap x99 combo for 150 dollars 3 years ago and still rock solid.
Be nice if the xeon 2699V4 had more videos on it
I want to see a proper gaming review of the E7-8893 v4 . A quad core CPU with 60MB L3 cache (15mb per core is more than X3D from AMD)
i bought my X99 F8 combo with E5-2696(18 cores, 32 threads) v3 and 64gb ddr4 for less than a modern i3 cpu alone. when I test in cpuz my setup has a higher score than a i9 11th gen. let that sink in
A pretty nice one.
I think its best too keep single cpu xeons in the past and the multi cpus for cheap servers and workstations with high core count. my personal favourite is the e5-2683v4 which can be bought for 19,90€ and can make for a pretty cheap 32core system.
If you haven't done so already, perhaps look at quad channel vs dual channel RAM considering even a decade later quad channel still isn't a thing on mainstream consumer hardware with it still being only single or dual channel for RAM.
Upgraded my i6800k @ 4.2Ghz to a 7800X3D, The Finals and Helldivers 2 fps almost doubled with my 4080 Super at Ultlrawide 3440x1400 max detaills
Miyconst really is the X99 encyclopedia
I'm still using my ASUS RVE from 2014 with 5960x and don't feel the need to change. If somebody told me years ago that I will ever have a platform that I would use for 10 years I woudn't believe :D What I did over the time was to upgrade video card from 4x R9 290 to 1080ti and now 3080ti (I pull the trigger of this platform exactly because of that 4x crossfire back then) Also changed the 5960x CPU once with another 5960x I got from a friend because it's overclocks better. Few years ago I bought 8x 8GB BDie memory which works at 3200 14-14-14, the max that this CPU IMC supports and I have memory bandwidth of about 90GB/s, something that is impossible for even the latest mainstream i9 CPU with DDR5 :)
Too bad they do not make decent overclocking platforms with at least 4 memory channels nowadays so there is nothing that I could buy for upgrade.
Had one of these for a while, which I ran at 4.40 GHz/ 1.30v. It was very hot and power hungry and definitely much less comfortable to run, IMO, than my current stock clocked 7950X, which is also very hot and power hungry. I replaced it with a Ryzen 7 3700X which offered a much better overall experience, despite being not much faster in many benchmarks (and slower in a few). It surprised me how the 3700X slashed the time it took to get to the main menu, in a large Fallout 4 mod list I had at the time, from around 50 seconds on the old Xeon, to 30 seconds.
That said, it holds up brilliantly for a processor coming up on 10 years of age, and your stock clocked benchmarks will have the power and heat issues more than sorted whilst still performing decently in your benchmarks. I found that up to about 3.80 - 3.90 GHz, these were extremely easy to cool. Plus, the ability to run quad channel DDR4-3200, which I also did, by simply having a decent kit with an XMP profile for it is fantastic for the first consumer DDR4 processor line, much better than first and second gen Ryzen, which had terrible IMCs compared to Intel at the time. Now it is the other way around, with DDR5 being more solid and reliable on AMD.
these Xeons are crap anything below 2670 is not worth it at all. you can get the 2699 18 core varients for slightly more and they crush both the lower end Xeons and most mid range or low end modern chips
@@truthdoesnotexist Most of those are even worse due to locked multipliers and lower clock speeds, resulting in poor single threaded performance compared to even cheap modern chips.
@@ryanocallaghan8833
I have a 32 core Xeon system that would say otherwise, my dads system had an 8 core xeon like the one in the video and when I upgraded it to the 18 core 2699 it was a huge difference and way more powerful. I don't overclokc as it's not worth it so locked or unlocked multipliers I don't care about. a modern 4 core or even 8 core system can't beat an old 18 core in productivity even at 2.8ghz the cores are not nearly as weak as people think they are
Let's goooooooo
Still on a pair of E5-2667 v2 's at a (non turbo) 3.3ghz on a stock Intel server MB
I put a 1660v3 into a sub £70 Lenovo workstation. It actually does alright paired with an RX6600 and 32GB RAM in quad channel.
The most impressive thing for me is how low the CPU temperature is. For someone live in tropical regon like me, my cpu, while idle, can't even goes below 50 degree during summer. Anything below 70 Celcius during gaming is just COOL.
Get a z420 water cooler if you have a 2011 mobo. Best cpu cooler for Xeons of that time period and you'll never go above 60°C EVER.
You can’t go wrong with a Machinist MR9A, 2698v3 turbo unlocked and 4x8gb 2133mt/s ecc ram for ~$120. You’ll get just 2-3% less fps than the OC’ed 4.3Ghz 1660v3 thanks to the 40MB L3 cache and not need any special cooling past a $20 4 heat pipe.
I wonder if the epyc 9684X and accompanying motherboards/ram will get that cheap soon enough to be relevant
If I remember correctly Xeon E5-2699 v3 was a best buy - decent price, 18 cores so plenty of power and high single core boost to 3,6 GHz. Although to be honest I rather have first or second gen Ryzen for anything other then multithread workload. As for AliExpress cheap MB the one I had came with broken onboard audio, only 10/100 LAN, and dual instead of quad channel memory support. It might me just a bad luck or it might be that they are build a bit randomly from parts that available at the moment.
I have some issues with audio (only recognized if something is plugd in), 10/100/1000 LAN, Real quad channel 4 sticks of ECC 16GB 2133MHz, paired with 2670v3 on Machinist RS9 (DDR4) for MOBO+CPU+32GB cost me less then 100Euro on 11/11 clearance sell from "official" store
Good job on the video. Overall very informative. I'm looking to get a 1680 v2 myself for budget reasons to upgrade my 6 core SB-E 3930k to an 8 core IB-E and PCI-E 3.0. My X79 Sabertooth already support it and CPU is unlocked. One thing I would like to see here is, OC power draw under lighter workloads like games, multimedia streaming or some small number thread apps which is more likely the use for higher frequencies, to not lag behind too much with relatively lower CPU frequencies. Also for efficiency we need to factor in the total work times as well. Total power spent on Blender is 31Wh vs 50Wh on 3.3 vs 4.3, giving you a %38 efficiency drop for %20 less time on completion. Not too bad for whenever you need faster completion and just crank it up. It already loses big with its stock power draw since newer and more powerful processors you compare them with draw WAY LESS power. For example stock vs stock, 5600X draws around half the power. Even after OC it would draw around 3/4th of what stock 1660 v3 would draw I guess. So if that's not a big issue for you, then OC is not that big if you need time more than efficiency. Tweaking voltages and frequencies to hit the sweet spot between efficiency and performance sounds like a fun fiddling though. 4.0-4.2 range on all cores sounds like it can bring in some interesting results.
Iceberg Tech, pushing his smart meter into the red for science.
Well I decided to pair a 12100f with a 3090 fe. I found a special so the 12100f was £69.99 on Amazon , I chinama'd a b660 itx board 16 GB ddr4 3200, under clocked the 3090 back to 750vm. Now it uses about 270w add the CPU and that's less than 400w. It plays anything I throw at it at 4k ,doesn't want to burn my house down and uses less than 50 percent of the PSU(antec titanium 1000w). Tbh I wouldn't use the older systems due to the zillion watts they pull. Although I've almost pulled the trigger on the 14 core chips for giggles
i got a 10 core 3.2/3.9GHz xeon e5 2689 v4 QS for $50 on ebay they seem to be OEM only and very rare but i got it to boot without even rolling back BIOS on an old hp z440
the i3 is shown as i5 in the video at 5:14
The latency and random stutters hit big in VR or competitive games.. Might be due to the cache & nanometry
digit mistake at 4:57 btw but its ok we all read the title
In my opinion the point is: If you already own such a system -->money has been payed
My asus x99 ws USB3.1 suddenly died a couple years ago, i contacted ASUS and the workstation care team repaired it in the czech republic free of charge (I live in the Netherlands) and it was back the next day with Dhl express
Still working strong in my pc with a 5820k, And debating on a i7 6950x or a 2696 v3
AMD targeted Haswell EE, 5960X and 1660/80 v3 with 5800X3D LP LC and I have one. Considered 5960X before Vermeer launch and at R5K run end in June 2022 bought into 7 nm purposely to get off the process train for TSMC 7 transistor endurance and 10-year life it's probably forever. All the Haswell octa hexa EE and for E5 core category frequency workstations parts are similar, good for their time and thank you for the salvage coverage the channel thanks you. mb
montei pelo aliexpress uma mr9a pro com um xeon 2667v4 e uma rx5700xt 32gb ram ddr4 ecc em quad chanel . a principio montei para emulação mas a performance foi tão surpreendente que uso ele para tudo os jogos atuais sem problema... no brasil essa plataforma x99 esta sendo uma salvação pois hardware aqui é ridiculo caro.
They’re also great for creating home servers!
6:13 the devs really need to add an extra compiling screen on PC or something just so you can get into the game without stuttering into the stratosphere. I don’t play the game that often as it is you can’t just hop in and play until a match later
After going from an X58 Xeon X5675 @ 4.8GHz to a Ryzen 5 3600X in 2019, and then to a 5800X in 2021, the performance upgrade has of course been nice, but what I noticed most was that my air conditioning was actually effective during summer again. That Xeon could peak power at ~320W, and compared with my 5800X that rarely draws more than 110W, I learned my lesson. What you save in initial cost for these chips, you end up paying for with suffering (and electricity).
Worrying about cpu power draw really become a concern when its hot where you live. I have a 5900x and I slightly undervolt/underclock and the temp went from 80c to 60c during busy part of gaming. It too probably only draw less than 110w most of the time. Only exception is blender/video rendering.
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*Love a X99 build, I used to flip them, however market has gone dry for sellers*
In my e5-2680 v4 i tend to get better performance and 0.1% lows when using only 4 cores with hyperthreading.
Idk if the 35mb of l3 cache did something also the fact that it boost to 3.1ghz
meamwhile my 2673v4 had no performance increase when disabling cores to boost higher idk why
"Repackaged in lies" made me chuckle a lot more than I care to admit.
you could get boradwell-e chip... they can clock much easier to 4.6GHz
Im still on x99 v3...it runs hot😄
old xeons are my favourite topic (since three years at least...) I still have a x79 biuld in my garage...
next time try the 2699 v3 just uprgaded my dad from the 8 core 2630 v3 to an 18 core 2699 v3 and it is night and day more powerful. for some reason these 8 cores are very innefiecent and they ran hot in my dads system but when I moved up to the 18 core the cooler worked way less. I'm not sure why this is but it's just something I noticed
Dude I looove some x99 and AliExpress content. I know you already covered RX580 but if there any you could cover the poor people RX 580 (2048sp) and even a RX 550 that would be fantastic.
Now is hard to get working 2048sp in Europe, i ordered 4 all have issues, SOYO, MILLSE and two no-name. Better is find a local deal on GPUs. I got 1660Super for 100Euro
im using dual xeon e5 2699 v3 unlocked and undervolt on cheap chinese mb. its stable at 3.3ghz for all 36 core 72 threads. disabling 2 core for each cpu can give me 3.5ghz all core. but at what cost? 2x145 Watt all the time for cpu only
What the f lol I’m not even sure what to make of this result but it’s impressive
Request: can you do the 12400F OC
The newest xeons that are currently cheap are Skylake. You're gonna get half the performance of the fastest thing out there, but you can get it for $25
Im having trouble to get the proper HSF all i see is just the crap HSF i want to slap maybe an AIO what aio fits lga1200 ?
yep, first time I did this, I got me a E3-1240 v5
Asus x99 boards must have a sticky BIOS then. I still have a Rampage V Extreme. I had a few of these E5-1600 Xeon processors and I never could get the RAM past 2666MT/s. 4x8GB B-die 3600MT/s cl15 G.skill sticks, and I tried other kits as well but no avail. But... I have NO problems overclocking the RAM on the 5930k, 5960x, and 6950x. Tuning the RAM and cache is the secret behind getting insane performance out of these processors.
I can get my 5960x to 4.7GHz but it needs custom liquid cooling
X99 has always been finicky for memory overclocks for me. Quad channel is a shot in the dark, while dual channel is relatively stable and easier on the chipset. There's a reason that most board manufacturers only guaranteed 2133mhz as stable I guess.
You can get a z420 water cooler and use a i7 6850k with 4 channel ecc memory on an old z440 mobo (ecc won't be utilized but will still work). Cooler cost $45, cpu cost $40, mobo $35, and ram is $60 for 64gbs but all you need is 16gb for less than $20. About the cheapest gaming machine you can buy for the performance.
I have an i7 8700k. What would be the best GPU to pair with it?
You should try a e5-2660 v4 just to see how it does with high amounts of cores
I really appreciate this review. And well... at $89 for a MB, CPU, and RAM still sounds like a pretty sweet deal looking at this data, even knowing its a dead end no upgrade platform
I have a 1660 v3 overclocked to only 4ghz thanks to my limited cooler master hyper t4 xD.
Great vídeo, I really like your content.
The benchmark results are with meltdown & spectre protection enabled?
Better option for normal consumers would be to buy 12100f/12400f and b660m riptade (or b660m strix g for the ddr5) so you can overclock with external clock.
I'm chilling here with a bios modded Chinese board with a 2699V3 clocking 3.6 on all cores lol it's a beast
The 16XX xeons don't make any sense from a budget standpoint. They go for way too much because of the ability to O.C. them clock. If you are willing to fiddle around with bios or you can find someone to make you a custom bios using one of the higher end cpu's, with the max turbo unlocked on all cores, gets you way more performance per dollar. Of course it also potentially gets you way more heat and way more power draw. It does limit you as far as not being able to use a v4 the turbo bios mod doesn't seem to effect them. I still use an x99 system that I've been running for years and the e5-2699 v3 is pretty banging.
Could I use this Xeon a Minecraft server (I want to upgrade it)
My desktop PC before it died a few months ago was running an i7 5960X. (not technically a Xeon) While performance dropped over the years, to a sad level compared to more modern CPUs, it was still OK for most things.
Two things that I found more problematic with it than anything else were the lack of iGPU and the Windows 11 lack of official support. The first because it was clearly problematic in video related activities, something which most youtubers and journalists forget to mention when promoting a dGPU for say video editing. An iGPU, especially Intel's, can help a lot. Even more so if you are not running the latest and greatest hardware. And no, I am not talking about just final exporting/rendering.
The second because it was a kick in the balls by Microsoft, Intel and I guess AMD which clearly they made such form of agreement to push new hardware when the older ones had no real problem running Windows 11. This makes me sick.
I was glad I bought it back in 2015, as it proved quite a beast for years to come. Yet annoyed with the previously mentioned points. So when a few months ago that PC died and I had/have no money to replace it, going back to my i7-4710HQ laptop was an interesting kick in the balls times 2. Funny. The iGPU is here, but daaaaamn it's so much slower for almost anything else. Well, FML and all.
Regarding the power consumption, my i7 5960X with the ASUS motherboard, also doesn't show proper wattage in any program, though at least it makes it very clear with the whole 0 or 1 (I don't remember right now) power consumption "metric".
Good video, thanks for sharing.
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I gotta say, I love this kind of content. Keep it up, I saw a guy running a 12100 of 12100f I3 at like 5.3ghz with an external clock generator from a motherboard if I'm not mistaken with very fast ddr5 ram, maybe 6000mt/s. I kinda wanted to see a 12400(f?) at crazy clocks and daily drivable overclocks aswell
The fact that the 12100f is only a 4 core with less l3 cache vs the old xeon chip with 8 core and more l3 cache…it does pretty dam well.
Also 12100f can still run ddr4 also and very high probability of running faster ddr4 rates then the xeon. But i would go with ddr5 since its much cheaper now.
12100 likely only use 40-50 watts max. I know the 12400f i had used 55-60 watts in cinebench r23 multi core load. There is zero reason to buy a 9 year old cpu/motherboard even its its only $20. You can buy cheap b or z motherboards for the 12th and newer gens which have full support for newer and faster features like pci gen5/gen4 support. Im still using a power supply from 8-9 years ago so you can still salvage parts for new build.
What about 11th and 10th gen intel?
ngl the bench marks for the laptop i game on is kinda sad cus no gpu :(
I'm surprised these are still around. They were good value during the shortages a few years ago, but now...meh. That said, I still have a dual processor one even if I rarely use it
Don't get me wrong though, I still appreciate you testing these out for funsies!
the 1650 v2 and the 1650 can also overclock, it may be worth looking
>5:15
>DDR4 3200CL16
This is lucky and dangerous.
Boards sent to much voltage to the memory controller to get/try this timings. Like +0,5 volts and more.
I switched last your from x99 to AM5, because i7-6950x@4,3ghz was to slow for my new 7900xtx.
I think 6900xt is the edge for 1440p for 8/10Core overclocked x99 CPU.
With my 7900xtx I saw 60-70% GPU usage at 1440p with my i7-6950x in games.
But it's crazy how good the x99 platform was.
Back than 2014 you could buy a good entry board for 200€, 16GB DDR4 for 200€ and i7-5820k was under 350€ back then.
Now I pay 300€ for an AM5 board and get 4 sata ports.
Why do you think that DDR4 3200mhz would give +0,5V on memory? Im pretty sure a normal 3200mhz cl16 kit does 1,35V in comparison to the normal 1,2V so +0,15V which should be totally fine
@@ratlingzombie8705 I meant the system agent voltage of the CPU
@@ecchichanf didn't know that these voltages can automatically change. I will look into that, when im home.
@@ecchichanf it is still at stock voltage for me with DDR4 3200mhz cl16
way better than my e5 2670 v1 on z420 (got lucky because supports v2)
Good video you dirty 🐶
Surprisingly the X99 Xeon still managed to hold up well.
I have a E5-2697v3 running at 3.6Ghz all core (90mv undervolt). I find it's not nearly as power hungry as you may think, especially if the CPU isn't at 100%, which I doubt it will be with 14c/28t.
In games, It usually sits around 50~65w (BG3, RDR2 are my most played), even under heavier workloads I rarely saw anything above 85w, which isn't half bad.
Can't complain, considering the price (all used of course):
CPU: 2697v3 (6$)
Motherboard: Huananzhi x99 8M (68$)
RAM: 2x16GB Samsung ECC RAM (2133 MT/s) (16$)
GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 XC Ultra 8GB (125$)
Where did you buy RAM?
@@ultrawidegaming9402 ebay, data centers sometimes get rid of excess ram, I got mine in mint condition in original packaging
@@ultrawidegaming9402 I also wanna know
Xeon has been trendy for years and for a reason because they are really worth it for the price