Agree with your assessments. Re: GPS. Can’t imagine why they would do anything differently than on their automobiles with a very long history of successful Accords and Civics. My ultra blue 22 DCT Tour airbag I just purchased a few weeks ago, is my 3rd Wing. Absolutely smitten with it. Traxxion has a fix for that front storage door. Check that out. I knew I wouldn’t be getting a storage pocket and discovered I didn’t need one. The zippered packet on the back of my back support has more than enough. When I’m outta sight that pocket gets unsnapped and it goes into the top trunk. A left side mounted Gold Strike phone holder w/wireless charger does the trick. I had my dealer install a number of their high lumen visibility Gold Strike and Pathfinder light kits to be seen. Talk about brilliance. Love it Mengy. So cool are LED lights. The backlit handlebar switches, console and this amazing automotive decibel level horn are details that never get talked about. Who does this. BMW’s got the horn but not the backlit. The ability to jettison off-the-line with torque at low rpm is just impressive. By-byo! The appearance of the Wing is another element I really enjoy. To me it’s the Lexus of motorcycles. The 21+ trunks received enlargement and happy about that. The PPG paint was supposed to be an improvement over previous generations. I keep that in mind as I go about my the care and upkeep. FWIW, Corbin offers the Fire and Ice with it’s heated and cooled options or not at all. Caliente has them on both his 16 and 21. Lastly. Check out Crusieman’s Garage and his initial review of the Indian Pursuit. He’ll be reporting more when he gets it up and running. You may not be happy where Indian decided to locate it’s battery. Polaris is a good performance based company. The Indian is loved by it’s owners but it’s still evolving. By the time your ready it might be just perfect. Unless the maniacal Feds/ EPA has their way. Good stuff Mengy. You brought it again from the great state of Pa. Ride safe and often.
As a fellow 2018 Goldwing Tour owner I fully agree and appreciate all of your pro's. I have an additional or alternate pro, and that would be the brakes. The brakes on the GL1800 are better than any other bike I have ridden. On the con side, I have become used to the navigation. I agree that it could be better, but I have become used to it. My #1 con is related to the phone function. When a call (incoming or outgoing) is in progress the infotainment screen stays in phone mode. A better option would be to stay on the screen that the rider had chosen and have a "call in progress" icon. The other con related to the phone is the contact list. When downloaded, the name of the contact should be what the rider sees when a call is in progress. Instead of the contact name the rider sees the contact number. Two very minor gripes, but they are things I wish Honda would correct. Still loving my Wing after almost 30K miles. On the reliability side, "not so much". I recently spent almost $2,000 to repair a coolant leak. The dealer initially charged $525 to replace the water pump gasket (which only temporarily stopped the coolant leak). The dealer then charged an additional $1475 to replace the water pump. Had I purchased the optional 5 year warranty the warranty would have paid for itself.
Wow, you had an actual repair done to your Goldwing? I haven't heard of many owners needing servicing like that. I'm almost at 30K miles now, if I have any issues I'll make a video detailing it out. 😉
Mine is 2019 DCT… 32,000 miles so far no issues mechanically! I agree with all your points. I NEVER have used the stock gps as I use CarPlay (Apple) which works perfectly. I always ride in Sport Mode and paddle shift (except on rough roads which cause my wrist to over-work the sensitive throttle - switch to Econ Mode until smooth again)…. I installed Remus exhaust which accentuates the sort of Porsche growl when I accelerate hard. Love the sound of the Remus!
I didn't use Sport mode much at first but over the years I find myself using it much more often now. It's too twitchy for me to use it full time, although your 2019 has the improved throttle mapping so it's probably a lot nicer in Sport mode.
I wrapped my bike from new so never experienced any issue with paint work 👌 I also coated it then with F11 throughout the bike and that makes cleaning a breeze 🤙
Great review. On the suspension, you just don't know what you're missing until you get traxxion. Best thing you can do. It's so much safer, never get blown around by trucks and well in the corners you turn once and it takes a set, no more multiple corrections in the turn. Do it, that bike deserves better suspension.
I do think a Traxxion upgrade is in my future, but the frugal side of me wants to wait a few years yet. I'd like to actually ride down to their shop to get it done and then ride it home afterwards (long trip!). 😎
Great Review. Regarding the cubby not opening very well. I placed a small round rubber or plastic button pad used on cabinets to stop them when closing and banging hard to provide some opening pressure on the door. This causes it to require slightly more pressure to close it but the minute you press the release button it pops open. Regarding the seat, my buddy and I went down to Redding California and had Russell Day Long seats custom made for us, retaining all the heating elements and for the two of us this is the best thing we ever did on the wing. Last thing I will mention is Centramatic wheel balancers. They work and I highly recommend them. wheel balancers.
I ride a 2020 DCT Tour. 22,000 miles. I agree with all your comments. Thank you for your analysis. I have the Traxxon Dynamics suspension upgrade. It is wonderful. Well worth the cost. Go see Max when you pass his shop near Atlanta.
Everyone I talk to who has the Traxxion suspension upgrade raves about it. It sounds like its money well spent, but sadly I'm just very happy with the stock suspension. When my shocks wear out though I might spend the money on Traxxion to replace it.
Coming into this late. Mine is a 2018 white DCT Tour that I put 42k miles on so far, and it is the only bike out there that could top my old K1600GTL. Your pros and cons are right on, although I think you had to stretch a bit to find the cons:). I have some paint scratches and blemishes I would like to fix if I knew how. I went aftermarket like a Klockwerks windshield and a Corbin seat, which sits me 2” further back and puts me in a slightly forward lean like a sport touring bike, which is what I was after to fit my 6’5” self. Also have highway pegs. I use apple CarPlay for Nav, otherwise I would have a Garmin Zumo on the handlebars. Aftermarket upgrade plans this year include a BT-Moto flash tune they just came out with, and a pair of Denali auxiliary lights to add to the Pathfinder LED fog and side marker lights.
Great review! I have the Ultimate seat and its an awesome upgrade. It not only has the heated seat function but it plugs into the bike just like the stock seat so it uses the bike's on board heating controls. AND it puts out significantly more heat than the stock seat. I highly recommend the Ultimate seat.
Ive got the 22 in 22 and about 30 something thousand and no real issues and couldn't have said it better. I travel and bring mine with me everywhere. No plans to set it free.
very honest review. Ive had goldwings, loved them now on a harley. I think about the new wings, they should have kept the twist fuel door, no cable to go bad, same as trunk
Just the other day I had to horn a lady who pulled out in front of me and I couldn't find the button until after I passed by her. Such a poor horn button design. 😣
I think its funny as heck how you compare it to a Harley a few times. I have never owned a Harley but rode a few in my time. And I fully agree with you. I could never own one because every Harley I ever rode I never was comfortable. It's all personal preference. To me there is no better bike then a wing. Mine is a 2015 with 19 thousand miles. I bought it in April 2022 with 12 thousand on the clock. Good video, ride safe.
The majority of my motorcycle experience is with Harleys so it's hard for me not to compare other bikes to them. I still love Harleys, but I've had my eyes opened to what else is out there now. That's my biggest problem with the Goldwing: it's SOOOO good I can't find a different bike I'd like to own!!! 😁
I have a few different bikes and have a caveat on the DCT version of this bike. I actually love it for long rides and 2 up, but when I come to a stop I want that clutch... I miss it every time. If they made the DCT version with a clutch that you could use or not use, that would be perfect. I actually added the foot shifter as I want a way to get the bike into Neutral without using my thumb, I actually had minor rocket take offs damaging the bike and throwing me, trying to get my thumb on the N button. I hate that setup. For 2 up riding no bike beats the GW in smoothness and passenger comfort. The seating position is too forward for me at 5'11 and I find myself sitting on my "stuff" after a while, having to stand up and try to readjust things. For me I would like it tilted backwards a bit. I actually have the Traxx suspension as well... I would agree with your assessment that the factory is way more plush. The Traxx adds some stiffness to the overall ride but other than that I cannot really tell the difference. It's an expensive upgrade. If you ride in sports mode and like to do the twisties... then you should probably upgrade to Traxx but if you're just out for rides with the wife, keep the stock suspension. Regards...
About the seating position: I put Helibar risers on mine the first month I had it, as I felt the stock bars made me lean too far forward. Best thing I ever did to my Wing, the risers made it SOOO much more comfortable. You might want to look into them! 😎
I purchased the 2021 Goldwing Tour DCT. The trunk is huge. You can put two XXL full face helmets with cameras and communications and close the trunk lid with no problems. It’s a big trunk, but the side bags are smaller.
@@MotoMengy It is possible to retrofit a bigger pannier. Honda sells them as an option to the Bagger variant. ....Or find a 2021> goldwing that was used as a road crayon.
My 18 GW isn’t perfectly balanced. If I take my hands off the handlebars, it wants to veer left a little; means theres slightly more weight on the left side. After hours of riding, theres some fatigue from constant (though lite) pressure on one side. I’ve gotten used to the horn location coupled with passing/bright light switch; I posture my left hand when I anticipate a driver coming into my lane or doing something stupid. I do wish the horn button had backlighting for night time. If they do, maybe mine has just never worked. I added a backrest. It helped. Also bought a silicone seat cushion. It helps for longer rides…just takes a little longer for the heat from the seat to come through. Safe riding.
As the owner of a new 2023 ‘Wing I agree with the small misplaced horn button. My thoughts is that that horribly uncomfortable seat should be number one! I also miss that extra gallon of fuel that my ‘05 Wing has. Seems that when just riding around town I’m always having to fill up.
Do a paint correction and Ceramic coat the paint and that solves the soft paint problem. Armor Shield IX is awesome. Talk to John at Wingsoft. He'll fix that seat right up and he keeps the stock seat heater. That was 46,000 miles ago and it still feels great
The paint on my 2003 was "soft" also.. This is because they use water base paint with is better on the environment. You can usually rub out minor scratches. No big deal, but your are right Harley paint is superb for a production paint job.
All paint is water based now, but Harley paint is still superior. My 2019 RGS with 66,000 miles looks as good as the day I brought it new!, and it's a candy flake so needs a bit more care as it was a $3000 upgrade! I was talking to Southern Powersports the other day about goldwing paint and they confirmed it is very soft, especially the black, says it swirls up very easily when polishing, but also informed me just the other week they had Honda techs in and brought this up with them so who knows in the future something might change
Nice video. I liked your #1 con, GPS. I have a 21' Road Glide Limited and My brother has 22' Goldwing. We are always competing which GPS is worse. The Harley GPS looks good and has different options as scenic, twisty and such but the routes it takes you on are not always the greatest and it locks up alot also. At least the Honda GPS reroutes sometimes with road construction and traffic. We ride alot together and we run both GPS's and on a trip we use directions from both. HAHA.
Thanks! My brother has an HD and we run our GPS's at the same time too. The HD unit always searches better, seems to pick better routes, and is just easier to read.
I have a 2019 RGS and use the GPS all the time and it's never locking up plus the functions are way superior in lots of ways,. For example, use the Harley Ride Planner on your computer to map out a route, drag it around to find all those lil back roads and save it, it will pass automatically to the HD app and then you simply use one click and send it direct to the bike, no manual inputs....perfect. The other way the HD infotainment system is better for riders with a comm system, if somebody texts me it tells me I have an incoming text with the contacts name, I can click listen and it will speak it out to me as I ride, if I am stopped it will allow me to read it, and one final thing it will send an auto custom response back, mine says 'Out riding, call you back later'. such a nice feature, all the above are missing from the wing. However, I am hoping all this will be addressed in the upcoming 25 version as I intend buying my first wing in late Oct. @MotoMengy. Did you know you can use the Harley Ride Planner to map your route out and export it as a GPX file and import it direct into your Goldwing? Just make sure you put enough waypoints to force it to go the way you want
I don't mind the GPS but wish it was a touch screen like the Harley and other bikes. I do own a TomTom Rider that is mounted on my Triumph, but even those are not perfect. I could put a mount for it on my Goldwing but I get on with the factory one good enough that I probably never will. I really like the CarPlay on the Goldwing, it works so much better than it does on the Harley. The WHIMS module that Harley has is rather buggy and got the best of my temper more than once. With the windshield I put on my Street Glide my wife was better protected than she is on my Wing. On the other hand I find the stock Goldwing shield perfect for me as it is. I will probably change it down the road to the one you bought to improve her comfort on the back. I still don't mind the seat but I now notice on a long day I do start to get sore. It is a weird kind of sore though, not hot spots like on other seats. It is kind of a general discomfort all over making me think that is might be a tad soft. Either way it is not bad enough that I will be in any rush to change it out. I would hate to add up what I have spent on seats for Harleys in the past. As others have found you have to be extremely careful when cleaning and touching the paint/plastics as well as the clear cover over the dash. Both are extremely soft and easy to mark. Mine being a 22 model I have the larger tox box/trunk and I easily fit in two modular helmets with coms as well as gloves, snacks, drinks and more. It was wise of them to make the change in 21, it shows that they did hear complaints about space. I was curious about trying a DCT but could not, mine is the 6 speed. It shifts smooth as silk in all gears except for the shift from first to second which is clunky. That seems to be common in many of the bikes I have owned and is only on the upshift. Like you I think I am going to have this bike for a very long time, it may not have the personality of the V twin Harleys, but it is the best all around bike I have ever had. Any of the dislikes are just minor and not an issue.
Newer wings fix the trunk space issue, Apple/Android car play fix the GPS, ANY other seat is better than stock Corbin with heat is my favorite and a must have, not crazy about the storage box for the phone but it works. The stock windshield isn’t great but works, I’ll get the F4 eventually.
HORN button is a problem I believe manufacturers should on the left handlebar you should squeeze with your hand on the grip and the horn go on at that point
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Nice review!! 👍👍I was on the fence between the Indian Challenger and the new Goldwings...Butt then the Indian Pursuit came along...Choices! Choices! 🤪🤪
@@MotoMengyI was on track for a Challenger, but the Indian dealers in Western, PA are not likeable...for sales or service..I would buy one in Arkansas though!!😂😂
Seats are hard to make comfortable for everyone as we are all so different. I have no problems on my 2023 DCT and I'd actually say that there is not a seat I own, in my house or my car or van, that is as comfortable as my Goldwing. I only weigh 75kg at 6ft tall so perhaps the stock seats are better for skinny riders?
I didn't mind mine for the first few years either, but I think its less comfy than it was when I bought the Wing. Or my butt got more sensitive, not sure which it is...😂
Good review Sir. I practice hitting the horn button every time I ride and the one time a car cut me off I coudn't find it. Lol. Yes that button sucks. Have fun with the videos and stay safe out there.
Grew up riding' all my Dad's Harley's and cannot agree more - I have expanded my garage this year to include the Kawasaki H2 SESX Tour monster as I really wanted something completely different than my 19' GL1800
@@MotoMengy last year someone in a typical Texas pick up truck drove into my Wing- It spent 6 months in the shop due to Covid related part shortages and eventually during a progress visit my wife fell in love with a Honda PCX 150. I drove it everywhere and suddenly realized I needed something lighter and fun 😇
Good review and my thoughts would be about the same except if I could ask them to change one thing that would be the navigation and interface controlling it. I have gotten used to using carplay so it doesn't bother me much but places where you don't have internet can be a pain. Was recently in PA and rode on some great roads. I feel every road we rode on made some beautiful memories. It made me appreciate so much more all you show us around. PA 666 was the highlight of our trip. I am planning on coming down again. Maybe we should connect and ride together.
Very nice review and video my friend. I am looking into buying a used 2018-2019 GW, as it sits at a nice price point for me. I was wondering about this bike as I have loved the look and sound for years. I too owned a HD FLHTCUI and it was an amazing bike. Very well balanced, I think. I am looking forward to getting on this GW for sure. Thanks again for the review. Gorgeous bike.!
I own a detailing shop. Those scratches can buff out, and wax will hide whatever it doesn't. My biggest concern about the Goldwing is the weight of it, but at least with the walk reverse option it makes turning around and backing up on slight slopes a whole lot easier. I'm surprised that didn't make the list!
The Goldwing feels much lighter than it actually is, very easy to walk around. It's nice to have reverse but honestly I hardly even need to ever use it!
Agree with a lot of what you say but the one con I was shocked about was the Center compartment button. I wonder did they fix it. It’s not any issue on my 2023 !
Did you know the Kawasaki Concourse had electric windshield since I believe 2009. Why did it take honda so long to put it on the goldwing. You would have thought they would have had it since 2001. I have a 2022 bagger and like you absolutely love that electric windshield. Great vid.
Get a trailer. You will love it and won't even know it's back there. When you are riding solo don't pull it. Use it when you're riding 2 up. You won't regret it. 👍
I'm planning to do my first air filter change myself this winter at around 28K miles. I know it's a big deal to do the air filter on these new Wings, hopefully I don't break any plastic tabs in the process!
Ive always liked the goldwing, but i doubt I'd ever want one of my own... It's biggest downfall? It's a honda, honda make engines to last, but to do that they make tame engines, they take a lot of the fun out of them... my personal experience of all my past hondas is that they're mechanically sound, but electronically they're a ticking time bomb. If I ever do find myself getting another honda (unlikely) the first thing on my list will be a full rewire.
@@MotoMengy agreed on that, it would not be easy, and it would be a very costly task to pay someone to take on the job... But my luck with Honda has been as good as I'd imagine a romantic night in with the lady in room 237 being, i.e the lady in the bath, from the shining!
Weel nice review, I have the same problem, I had a 2002 Goldwing but during an accident i lost the bike, now watt should I buy --- A goldwing again, bu tI dont know if it wil be a 2018n or later model..
I'd suggest a 2021 or newer Goldwing, they made some nice small improvements since 2021 (standard fog lights, better grab handles, larger trunk, DCT is tuned better, etc).
I don’t own the new Gen Wing. Mine is an 08 GL1800. But I agree with several of your assessments. On the positive side, my GL engine is also super smooth, and the bike is extremely comfortable with rider position, seat and performance. I’m 5’8” as well. On the negative side, the Honda GPS on my model also sucks. I don’t use it. I have a Garmin Zumo 595LM and my iPhone if needed. I love the paint color on my Wing but NO bike brand paint compares to Harley quality and paint options.
The one con for me would be the three step process to just put gas in it. The fuel door should just have a push button on it that would open it and the door/lid should also have the seal built into it like both of our cars. Open the lid put the fuel nozzle in when done close the lid and off you go.
I built my Horn button up on my 2022 DCT I couldnt find it quickly enough so i made a piece of plastic that sits over it and raises it by 8mm. One drop of superglue on the block not the horn button and now my thumb goes straight to it.
Nice review. All those miles with no rider back rest and highway pegs? They will up the comfort factor for you by a LOT and let you shift around a little on that seat. My wife hated that back seat. Mine was perfect for the time I owned it and I kind of miss the really smooth, quiet ride. I do not miss the lack of storage, unsnapping of a ton of plastic to change an air filter, or waiting for the dreaded 5 snowflake error message to pop up for DCT lock up and no start condition. I think if I was to do it again, I’d go with a 6 speed manual. But I truly believe I’m set for now and done buying bikes! Ride safe, Mengy 👍
Honestly I haven't felt I needed highway pegs yet, but the seat is questionable on all day long rides. I've had zero issues with the DCT yet but I have read about others who've had problems like you did. If my Wing ever starts giving me grief then I'll trade it for something else. 😎
Those long, thin lateral alloy covers on the engine sides, If it was mine I'd rechrome them in shiny gold (It's a GOLD wing). A nice touch to distinguish mine from others. I'll bet you could get a tough clear coat sprayed on the painted panels to toughen them up some more too. I'm quite jealous. (too old to ride now).
I ABSOLUTELY love that Blue. All I see online and for sale is Ardent Red Ardent Red Ardent Red Ardent Red. Yours is the only blue one ive seen Wtf!!!!😢
i've heard guys use borescopes or endoscopes to look down into the air filter housing to inspect the filter. saw one on amazon that plugs into your phone for 20 bucks,,, that's what i'd do. i'm looking at a 2019 GW dct and your review inched me a bit closer to pulling the trigger. been on victory visions for the past 10 yrs so i'm pretty spoiled.
Great video and great review. While I agree that the GPS mostly sucks, I have to consider that it's all new to Honda since it took them so long to even incorporate the GPS and Bluetooth into the Goldwing, And I have high hopes that they will at some point get it right. I've worked around the contrast thing by switching it to black and white mode while going through the twisties etc. It makes it so much better to see the roads, and I can switch it back when I get back on the regular roads... But yea... it's OK, but it sucks.I wish they would make it more customizable and / or add stuff like a digital speedometer, Parking Brake indicator, etc. in their updates. A touchscreen would be mice too. The helmet lock sucks too. The seam in my seat split and I checked if it was covered under warranty from Honda. Honda informed me that my warranty had recently expired, and they replaced it anyway. This isn't the first time that Honda stepped up for me either. So here the thing... Considering the AWESOME-ness of this bike, the power, agility, and the exceptional customer service, It's hard for me to not overlook their first attempt at GPS. Thanks for the channel & Ride Safe.
Coming off Harleys and the last 10 years on a Victory Cross County... I was tossed up between the Pursuit and Goldwing, I've decided to go with the Wing. Mainly because I want to get off the "customization-upgrade train"....I feel like the Wing is ready to go out of the box(especially the one I'm going to buy, which has an Ultimate Seat and Corbin wide bags already installed). After I buy, it needs nothing, I can ride it and only have to get the wrenches out for regular maintenance. I feel like the Pursuit might coax me back into the bad habit of upgrading....you know, expensive stuff like exhaust, stage kits, bars, custom boards etc. etc. etc.... No thanks
I would have one suggestion for a possible mod to your new Wing: if you are 5'8" or less then the Helibar blocks to put the grips back a little bit make a TON of difference. The stock bars were a bit too forward for me, but the Helibar blocks made it absolutely perfectly comfortable. Of course if the stock bars don't bother you then you are good to go, congrats! 😎
No, I'm mostly okay with the stock one, but I'll probably research finding a better one this year. I don't need a more comfy seat, but it would be nice to have one.
I’ve been riding Harleys since 1985, dressers since 1990. I’ve been interested in the wing since the DCT came out. In 4 years, I’ve only seen 1 new Goldwing sitting in a shop, a 2021. I’ve yet to see a new Goldwing g on the floor of any Honda dealer I’ve visited in 4 years. If it wasn’t for Americade last year, I would have never had the chance to ride one. I’d like to at least have the chance to throw my leg over a $30 thousand dollar bike I was going to buy.
My local Honda dealers can't barely keep any Wings on the floor either, they sell almost as soon as they get them. They do usually have demo Wings in house though just for test rides, which is very nice.
your cons are like every single Goldwing I saw why don't you email Honda because just everyone says the very same as u on the cons so they might perhaps improve it , ?
Have you changed your air filter yet? I was watching a video of the guy with the highest mileage Goldwing (almost 700k) and he only changes his every 100k- for him once a year.
No, technically I'm past due for the air filter but I'm doing it this winter. The bike is running great and MPG is unchanged so I doubt the filter is all that dirty, but it will be interesting to see how bad it is once I tear the bike apart!
Thanks for the reply. I have a 21 and have been wondering about when I will change mine. I think you are correct. If your mileage hasn’t changed the engine is getting enough air.
When riding in manual mode, using the toggle switches, do you release the throttle, or keep it at the position that you are riding at, when up shifting or down shifting? With our Ca-Am Spyder RT Limited, you do not release the throttle, when shifting up, or down with the toggle pads. Good review, :-). Safe Travels.
Have you really never heard about Corbin ? Strange. The number 1 in the world in after market seats. Heated and cooled if you want. I live in Belgium, Europe, Corbin is in the US, but I know Corbin almost my entire life (57 now).
I’ve been contemplating trading in my 2018 HD CVO Limited for a Gold Wing and or a BMW K1600GTL. I enjoy my HD but, I’m looking for something more sporty and better performing.
I owned a 2020 Goldwing and a 2018 BMW K1600. I sold the BMW but kept the Goldwing. That tells you which one I liked better. The BMW felt light and nimble on the road, engine purred nicely, but the Goldwing was more comfortable on long trips, better gas mileage on regular instead of premium gas, and tracked better in curves, poor weather (wind and rain). The BMW felt top heavy at slow speeds and walking it. Goldwing has lower center of gravity and a better reverse mode too. Although similar in weight, Goldwing was easy to put up on its center stand, not so much with the BMW. I believe maintenance costs for BMW were higher than the Goldwing too. I'm 5'9, 188lbs, and 67 yoa.
No, I traded in my Roadglide for the Goldwing. I've always traded them in when getting newer models as I only own one bike at a time. So far at least. 😎
Most people do this, but the major downside is when you lose cel reception you lose your map. GPS units don't have this issue, and I often ride out in the middle of nowhere without reception. For people who always ride in developed areas its certainly a great option though!
No offense buddy but 10 hours on your backside in the nicest recliner and it would start to get uncomfortable..you really are searching for something bad to say about it 😀. Just let it go, it's just about a perfect machine
78k on a 18 Tour I Bought with all options ,the best motorcycle ever in my 60 yrs of riding! Zero problems
78k, that's impressive, I'm only at 30k on my 2018! No problems here either. 😎
Is your dash glass fogging at all?. I hear some fog up
Agree with your assessments. Re: GPS. Can’t imagine why they would do anything differently than on their automobiles with a very long history of successful Accords and Civics. My ultra blue 22 DCT Tour airbag I just purchased a few weeks ago, is my 3rd Wing. Absolutely smitten with it. Traxxion has a fix for that front storage door. Check that out. I knew I wouldn’t be getting a storage pocket and discovered I didn’t need one. The zippered packet on the back of my back support has more than enough. When I’m outta sight that pocket gets unsnapped and it goes into the top trunk. A left side mounted Gold Strike phone holder w/wireless charger does the trick. I had my dealer install a number of their high lumen visibility Gold Strike and Pathfinder light kits to be seen. Talk about brilliance. Love it Mengy. So cool are LED lights. The backlit handlebar switches, console and this amazing automotive decibel level horn are details that never get talked about. Who does this. BMW’s got the horn but not the backlit. The ability to jettison off-the-line with torque at low rpm is just impressive. By-byo! The appearance of the Wing is another element I really enjoy. To me it’s the Lexus of motorcycles. The 21+ trunks received enlargement and happy about that. The PPG paint was supposed to be an improvement over previous generations. I keep that in mind as I go about my the care and upkeep. FWIW, Corbin offers the Fire and Ice with it’s heated and cooled options or not at all. Caliente has them on both his 16 and 21. Lastly. Check out Crusieman’s Garage and his initial review of the Indian Pursuit. He’ll be reporting more when he gets it up and running. You may not be happy where Indian decided to locate it’s battery. Polaris is a good performance based company. The Indian is loved by it’s owners but it’s still evolving. By the time your ready it might be just perfect. Unless the maniacal Feds/ EPA has their way. Good stuff Mengy. You brought it again from the great state of Pa. Ride safe and often.
I'm going to put a few extra lights on my Wing this winter, like side markers, a third tail light, and the fog lamps.
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Great to hear from you sir, put it in a nut shell.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Good review MM, I listened to every word. You sold me.
Glad you liked it Larry!
Great job. Direct , thorough, and to the point. Hit pros and cons. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Pdiddy! 😎
As a fellow 2018 Goldwing Tour owner I fully agree and appreciate all of your pro's. I have an additional or alternate pro, and that would be the brakes. The brakes on the GL1800 are better than any other bike I have ridden. On the con side, I have become used to the navigation. I agree that it could be better, but I have become used to it. My #1 con is related to the phone function. When a call (incoming or outgoing) is in progress the infotainment screen stays in phone mode. A better option would be to stay on the screen that the rider had chosen and have a "call in progress" icon. The other con related to the phone is the contact list. When downloaded, the name of the contact should be what the rider sees when a call is in progress. Instead of the contact name the rider sees the contact number. Two very minor gripes, but they are things I wish Honda would correct. Still loving my Wing after almost 30K miles. On the reliability side, "not so much". I recently spent almost $2,000 to repair a coolant leak. The dealer initially charged $525 to replace the water pump gasket (which only temporarily stopped the coolant leak). The dealer then charged an additional $1475 to replace the water pump. Had I purchased the optional 5 year warranty the warranty would have paid for itself.
Wow, you had an actual repair done to your Goldwing? I haven't heard of many owners needing servicing like that. I'm almost at 30K miles now, if I have any issues I'll make a video detailing it out. 😉
Mine is 2019 DCT… 32,000 miles so far no issues mechanically! I agree with all your points. I NEVER have used the stock gps as I use CarPlay (Apple) which works perfectly. I always ride in Sport Mode and paddle shift (except on rough roads which cause my wrist to over-work the sensitive throttle - switch to Econ Mode until smooth again)…. I installed Remus exhaust which accentuates the sort of Porsche growl when I accelerate hard. Love the sound of the Remus!
I didn't use Sport mode much at first but over the years I find myself using it much more often now. It's too twitchy for me to use it full time, although your 2019 has the improved throttle mapping so it's probably a lot nicer in Sport mode.
Yessir. My victory vision has power windscreen and heated grips and seat from factory
Victory Visions were awesome bikes. 👍
I wrapped my bike from new so never experienced any issue with paint work 👌 I also coated it then with F11 throughout the bike and that makes cleaning a breeze 🤙
A clear protective wrap on a new Wing is probably a good idea seeing how soft the Honda paint it.
Great review. On the suspension, you just don't know what you're missing until you get traxxion. Best thing you can do. It's so much safer, never get blown around by trucks and well in the corners you turn once and it takes a set, no more multiple corrections in the turn. Do it, that bike deserves better suspension.
I do think a Traxxion upgrade is in my future, but the frugal side of me wants to wait a few years yet. I'd like to actually ride down to their shop to get it done and then ride it home afterwards (long trip!). 😎
Luckily the new gen is about 500 cheaper to do than the previous gen.
Great Review. Regarding the cubby not opening very well. I placed a small round rubber or plastic button pad used on cabinets to stop them when closing and banging hard to provide some opening pressure on the door. This causes it to require slightly more pressure to close it but the minute you press the release button it pops open. Regarding the seat, my buddy and I went down to Redding California and had Russell Day Long seats custom made for us, retaining all the heating elements and for the two of us this is the best thing we ever did on the wing. Last thing I will mention is Centramatic wheel balancers. They work and I highly recommend them.
wheel balancers.
Interesting tips barry, gonna have to look into a few of them. I might get a Russell seat eventually, many people say great things about them.
Lifetime Harley rider, you make me want to go test one out.
Be very careful, that's how I ended up trading my Road Glide in for a Goldwing. 😬
I ride a 2020 DCT Tour. 22,000 miles. I agree with all your comments. Thank you for your analysis.
I have the Traxxon Dynamics suspension upgrade. It is wonderful. Well worth the cost. Go see Max when you pass his shop near Atlanta.
Everyone I talk to who has the Traxxion suspension upgrade raves about it. It sounds like its money well spent, but sadly I'm just very happy with the stock suspension. When my shocks wear out though I might spend the money on Traxxion to replace it.
Coming into this late. Mine is a 2018 white DCT Tour that I put 42k miles on so far, and it is the only bike out there that could top my old K1600GTL. Your pros and cons are right on, although I think you had to stretch a bit to find the cons:). I have some paint scratches and blemishes I would like to fix if I knew how. I went aftermarket like a Klockwerks windshield and a Corbin seat, which sits me 2” further back and puts me in a slightly forward lean like a sport touring bike, which is what I was after to fit my 6’5” self. Also have highway pegs. I use apple CarPlay for Nav, otherwise I would have a Garmin Zumo on the handlebars. Aftermarket upgrade plans this year include a BT-Moto flash tune they just came out with, and a pair of Denali auxiliary lights to add to the Pathfinder LED fog and side marker lights.
I DID have to stretch for the cons list! Like I literally had to sit down and ponder it for quite awhile! 😂
Great review! I have the Ultimate seat and its an awesome upgrade. It not only has the heated seat function but it plugs into the bike just like the stock seat so it uses the bike's on board heating controls. AND it puts out significantly more heat than the stock seat. I highly recommend the Ultimate seat.
Just looked it up, pricey, but sounds like a promising possibility. I need to do more research, thanks for the tip!
I’ve sat on one from an older Valkyrie. By far the best seat for all day rides. I’m cheap so I just use an airhawk cushion.
Which seat?
Ive got the 22 in 22 and about 30 something thousand and no real issues and couldn't have said it better. I travel and bring mine with me everywhere. No plans to set it free.
I've no plans to trade mine in either, I'd like to put 100K miles on before I even consider it. 😁
@@seangarrisson7084 that’s because it’s a Honda Goldwing. Top of the food chain.
very honest review. Ive had goldwings, loved them now on a harley. I think about the new wings, they should have kept the twist fuel door, no cable to go bad, same as trunk
I agree regarding the cable doors, I'm not a fan of that design either.
I agree with the horn comment. So easy to miss when you really need it.
Just the other day I had to horn a lady who pulled out in front of me and I couldn't find the button until after I passed by her. Such a poor horn button design. 😣
@@MotoMengy Exactly, and it is a double bummer because the horn itself is really strong, just cant find that damn button.......
I think its funny as heck how you compare it to a Harley a few times. I have never owned a Harley but rode a few in my time. And I fully agree with you. I could never own one because every Harley I ever rode I never was comfortable. It's all personal preference. To me there is no better bike then a wing. Mine is a 2015 with 19 thousand miles. I bought it in April 2022 with 12 thousand on the clock. Good video, ride safe.
The majority of my motorcycle experience is with Harleys so it's hard for me not to compare other bikes to them. I still love Harleys, but I've had my eyes opened to what else is out there now. That's my biggest problem with the Goldwing: it's SOOOO good I can't find a different bike I'd like to own!!! 😁
At almost a year in on a ‘21…agree with everything you stated…good content 👍
Glad you liked it, fellow Goldwing rider! 😁
I have a few different bikes and have a caveat on the DCT version of this bike. I actually love it for long rides and 2 up, but when I come to a stop I want that clutch... I miss it every time. If they made the DCT version with a clutch that you could use or not use, that would be perfect. I actually added the foot shifter as I want a way to get the bike into Neutral without using my thumb, I actually had minor rocket take offs damaging the bike and throwing me, trying to get my thumb on the N button. I hate that setup. For 2 up riding no bike beats the GW in smoothness and passenger comfort. The seating position is too forward for me at 5'11 and I find myself sitting on my "stuff" after a while, having to stand up and try to readjust things. For me I would like it tilted backwards a bit.
I actually have the Traxx suspension as well... I would agree with your assessment that the factory is way more plush. The Traxx adds some stiffness to the overall ride but other than that I cannot really tell the difference. It's an expensive upgrade. If you ride in sports mode and like to do the twisties... then you should probably upgrade to Traxx but if you're just out for rides with the wife, keep the stock suspension.
Regards...
About the seating position: I put Helibar risers on mine the first month I had it, as I felt the stock bars made me lean too far forward. Best thing I ever did to my Wing, the risers made it SOOO much more comfortable. You might want to look into them! 😎
I purchased the 2021 Goldwing Tour DCT. The trunk is huge. You can put two XXL full face helmets with cameras and communications and close the trunk lid with no problems. It’s a big trunk, but the side bags are smaller.
I wish mine had the new larger trunk, but I make do with the smaller one.
Corbin makes different pannier lids that add 10 liters (5 per side)
@@MotoMengy It is possible to retrofit a bigger pannier. Honda sells them as an option to the Bagger variant.
....Or find a 2021> goldwing that was used as a road crayon.
My 18 GW isn’t perfectly balanced. If I take my hands off the handlebars, it wants to veer left a little; means theres slightly more weight on the left side. After hours of riding, theres some fatigue from constant (though lite) pressure on one side. I’ve gotten used to the horn location coupled with passing/bright light switch; I posture my left hand when I anticipate a driver coming into my lane or doing something stupid. I do wish the horn button had backlighting for night time. If they do, maybe mine has just never worked. I added a backrest. It helped. Also bought a silicone seat cushion. It helps for longer rides…just takes a little longer for the heat from the seat to come through. Safe riding.
Mine seems balanced, if I take my hands off the bars it seems to track dead straight. Are you sure its not a wheel alignment issue instead?
Purchase a ultimate seat, HARTCO custom seat, that’s what I got, love it. Built to my height, weight, great quality
They aren't heated though, correct?
@@MotoMengy ultimate seats are heated if you choose, Hartco seats are also heated, I have a Hartco, great guy to work with
As the owner of a new 2023 ‘Wing I agree with the small misplaced horn button. My thoughts is that that horribly uncomfortable seat should be number one! I also miss that extra gallon of fuel that my ‘05 Wing has. Seems that when just riding around town I’m always having to fill up.
The seat doesn't bother me unless I'm riding all day long, like 600+ miles per day, and then it wears on me. I might look into alternatives soon.
Do a paint correction and Ceramic coat the paint and that solves the soft paint problem. Armor Shield IX is awesome. Talk to John at Wingsoft. He'll fix that seat right up and he keeps the stock seat heater. That was 46,000 miles ago and it still feels great
I'm actually thinking I'll get my bike wrapped down the line, something really custom and unique. 😎
Wrap it, best thing ever
The paint on my 2003 was "soft" also.. This is because they use water base paint with is better on the environment. You can usually rub out minor scratches. No big deal, but your are right Harley paint is superb for a production paint job.
I can easily rub scratches into my Wing's paint too! 😁
All paint is water based now, but Harley paint is still superior. My 2019 RGS with 66,000 miles looks as good as the day I brought it new!, and it's a candy flake so needs a bit more care as it was a $3000 upgrade!
I was talking to Southern Powersports the other day about goldwing paint and they confirmed it is very soft, especially the black, says it swirls up very easily when polishing, but also informed me just the other week they had Honda techs in and brought this up with them so who knows in the future something might change
Nice video. I liked your #1 con, GPS. I have a 21' Road Glide Limited and My brother has 22' Goldwing. We are always competing which GPS is worse. The Harley GPS looks good and has different options as scenic, twisty and such but the routes it takes you on are not always the greatest and it locks up alot also. At least the Honda GPS reroutes sometimes with road construction and traffic. We ride alot together and we run both GPS's and on a trip we use directions from both. HAHA.
Thanks! My brother has an HD and we run our GPS's at the same time too. The HD unit always searches better, seems to pick better routes, and is just easier to read.
I have a 2019 RGS and use the GPS all the time and it's never locking up plus the functions are way superior in lots of ways,. For example, use the Harley Ride Planner on your computer to map out a route, drag it around to find all those lil back roads and save it, it will pass automatically to the HD app and then you simply use one click and send it direct to the bike, no manual inputs....perfect.
The other way the HD infotainment system is better for riders with a comm system, if somebody texts me it tells me I have an incoming text with the contacts name, I can click listen and it will speak it out to me as I ride, if I am stopped it will allow me to read it, and one final thing it will send an auto custom response back, mine says 'Out riding, call you back later'. such a nice feature, all the above are missing from the wing.
However, I am hoping all this will be addressed in the upcoming 25 version as I intend buying my first wing in late Oct.
@MotoMengy. Did you know you can use the Harley Ride Planner to map your route out and export it as a GPX file and import it direct into your Goldwing? Just make sure you put enough waypoints to force it to go the way you want
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Hi David!
Great review. Well done. I agree with your assessment 100%
Thanks, glad you liked it Doug!
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Hello David, hope all is well!
I don't mind the GPS but wish it was a touch screen like the Harley and other bikes. I do own a TomTom Rider that is mounted on my Triumph, but even those are not perfect. I could put a mount for it on my Goldwing but I get on with the factory one good enough that I probably never will. I really like the CarPlay on the Goldwing, it works so much better than it does on the Harley. The WHIMS module that Harley has is rather buggy and got the best of my temper more than once. With the windshield I put on my Street Glide my wife was better protected than she is on my Wing. On the other hand I find the stock Goldwing shield perfect for me as it is. I will probably change it down the road to the one you bought to improve her comfort on the back. I still don't mind the seat but I now notice on a long day I do start to get sore. It is a weird kind of sore though, not hot spots like on other seats. It is kind of a general discomfort all over making me think that is might be a tad soft. Either way it is not bad enough that I will be in any rush to change it out. I would hate to add up what I have spent on seats for Harleys in the past. As others have found you have to be extremely careful when cleaning and touching the paint/plastics as well as the clear cover over the dash. Both are extremely soft and easy to mark. Mine being a 22 model I have the larger tox box/trunk and I easily fit in two modular helmets with coms as well as gloves, snacks, drinks and more. It was wise of them to make the change in 21, it shows that they did hear complaints about space. I was curious about trying a DCT but could not, mine is the 6 speed. It shifts smooth as silk in all gears except for the shift from first to second which is clunky. That seems to be common in many of the bikes I have owned and is only on the upshift. Like you I think I am going to have this bike for a very long time, it may not have the personality of the V twin Harleys, but it is the best all around bike I have ever had. Any of the dislikes are just minor and not an issue.
I agree, my cons list is a lot of nitpicks and nothing really serious. It was hard to put five cons together! 😁
Newer wings fix the trunk space issue, Apple/Android car play fix the GPS, ANY other seat is better than stock Corbin with heat is my favorite and a must have, not crazy about the storage box for the phone but it works. The stock windshield isn’t great but works, I’ll get the F4 eventually.
I don't have a communicator so I can't use Android Auto. I should spend the money and buy a Sena just so I can use Google Maps or Waze on the screen.
HORN button is a problem I believe manufacturers should on the left handlebar you should squeeze with your hand on the grip and the horn go on at that point
I'd probably beep it by accident a lot if it was like that! 😂
Good review for 25k miles. I agree with you 💯 percent!
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Agreed David, everyone should love the bike they ride. 😎
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I'm thinking upgrading from my 2005 Honda Metropolitan 50cc
That would be a massive upgrade! Those are cool scooters though. 👍
Nice review!! 👍👍I was on the fence between the Indian Challenger and the new Goldwings...Butt then the Indian Pursuit came along...Choices! Choices! 🤪🤪
I haven't ridden a Pursuit yet but I want to. I loved the Challenger, it felt like a Harley Goldwing to me, but the Pursuit likely would even more so!
@@MotoMengyI was on track for a Challenger, but the Indian dealers in Western, PA are not likeable...for sales or service..I would buy one in Arkansas though!!😂😂
Seats are hard to make comfortable for everyone as we are all so different. I have no problems on my 2023 DCT and I'd actually say that there is not a seat I own, in my house or my car or van, that is as comfortable as my Goldwing. I only weigh 75kg at 6ft tall so perhaps the stock seats are better for skinny riders?
I didn't mind mine for the first few years either, but I think its less comfy than it was when I bought the Wing. Or my butt got more sensitive, not sure which it is...😂
Good review Sir. I practice hitting the horn button every time I ride and the one time a car cut me off I coudn't find it. Lol. Yes that button sucks. Have fun with the videos and stay safe out there.
Give that horn a tap more often. If only just to give a wave.
I've actually practiced hitting the horn while riding as well! Shame we have to "practice" hitting the horn button though. 😔
@@roadglide I have only used that horn once. That is a sign that I can't locate it most of the time when needed and by the time I find it's too late 😆
@@MotoMengy, hope it gets fixed for 2024. Lol
@@AmerSheikh, it actually sucks. We shouldn't have to look for a horn button. Lol.
Grew up riding' all my Dad's Harley's and cannot agree more - I have expanded my garage this year to include the Kawasaki H2 SESX Tour monster as I really wanted something completely different than my 19' GL1800
Those certainly are two very different bikes!
@@MotoMengy last year someone in a typical Texas pick up truck drove into my Wing- It spent 6 months in the shop due to Covid related part shortages and eventually during a progress visit my wife fell in love with a Honda PCX 150. I drove it everywhere and suddenly realized I needed something lighter and fun 😇
Good review and my thoughts would be about the same except if I could ask them to change one thing that would be the navigation and interface controlling it. I have gotten used to using carplay so it doesn't bother me much but places where you don't have internet can be a pain. Was recently in PA and rode on some great roads. I feel every road we rode on made some beautiful memories. It made me appreciate so much more all you show us around. PA 666 was the highlight of our trip. I am planning on coming down again. Maybe we should connect and ride together.
I saw you were in PA! Route 666 is indeed a nice road, man I haven't been on it for many years though.
Very nice review and video my friend. I am looking into buying a used 2018-2019 GW, as it sits at a nice price point for me. I was wondering about this bike as I have loved the look and sound for years. I too owned a HD FLHTCUI and it was an amazing bike. Very well balanced, I think. I am looking forward to getting on this GW for sure. Thanks again for the review. Gorgeous bike.!
I'd go with a 2020 used Wing if you can manage it, that way you'd get the larger tourpak and improved low speed DCT computer.
@@MotoMengy Appreciate the info. Will definitely look into a 2020.
@@MotoMengyActually the '21 is when they made the trunk bigger from 50 L to 62..
@@TheNucMed'21👍
Try putting a back rest on it with highway pegs and your love it even more.
I have considered getting a backrest. I don't feel like I need one, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to have it either!
I own a detailing shop. Those scratches can buff out, and wax will hide whatever it doesn't. My biggest concern about the Goldwing is the weight of it, but at least with the walk reverse option it makes turning around and backing up on slight slopes a whole lot easier. I'm surprised that didn't make the list!
The Goldwing feels much lighter than it actually is, very easy to walk around. It's nice to have reverse but honestly I hardly even need to ever use it!
I wouldnt say the weight is an issue if you have ever owned a Harley? My Road King is heavy too but its really irrelevant most of the time
What about the weight, I think it’s a great bike because of the lower center of gravity, I weigh 160, and 5’8 and have no problem, just saying
I had the 2021 DCT for 16500 miles, traded last week for manual pearl white. If I made a video, it would be these top 5’s
I nearly bought my Wing in white. I was still deciding right up until purchase day pretty much.
Side opening saddlebags suck too! All your gear falls out all over the place every time you open them.
Yeah I'm not a fan, I miss my Harley hard bags. 😞
Agree with a lot of what you say but the one con I was shocked about was the Center compartment button. I wonder did they fix it. It’s not any issue on my 2023 !
Yes, they improved it greatly in 2022 I think. Might have been 2021, not sure...
Did you know the Kawasaki Concourse had electric windshield since I believe 2009. Why did it take honda so long to put it on the goldwing. You would have thought they would have had it since 2001. I have a 2022 bagger and like you absolutely love that electric windshield. Great vid.
I still can't believe ALL touring bikes don't have electric windshields. Not a single Harley comes with one, I mean how silly is that??!?!
Traxxion Dynamics actually has a fix for the center console door. I agree with your pros and cons. I’d guess others will have more to add.
I'd like to try to fix the door button myself, partly for fun but also for the challenge of it!
@@MotoMengy Check out Max’s video. It’s a simple fix with no expense.
@@dogbone1358 Thanks, I'll have to see that vid!
Get a trailer. You will love it and won't even know it's back there. When you are riding solo don't pull it. Use it when you're riding 2 up. You won't regret it. 👍
I've had many people tell me the same. I keep resisting a trailer, but I may relent someday down the road....🙂
You need to put a Utopia backrest on it. It's a game changer.
I've heard that from others too. Never had a bike backrest, it would be my first one.
I also have the '18 in Erie White. I love my DCT.
The DCT has spoiled me, I'm not sure I'd ever want to own a manual bike again now.
I owned a 2019 DCT Tour. My number con was cost of routine maintenance. Oil and filter change was no big deal but air filter 😱
I'm planning to do my first air filter change myself this winter at around 28K miles. I know it's a big deal to do the air filter on these new Wings, hopefully I don't break any plastic tabs in the process!
@@MotoMengy if you got the space take your time and film everything. It’s not hard just time consuming.
@@MotoMengy I decided to get Fred harmons videos to help me do the air filter and I’ll flush the coolant while I’m in the bike…
Ive always liked the goldwing, but i doubt I'd ever want one of my own... It's biggest downfall? It's a honda, honda make engines to last, but to do that they make tame engines, they take a lot of the fun out of them... my personal experience of all my past hondas is that they're mechanically sound, but electronically they're a ticking time bomb. If I ever do find myself getting another honda (unlikely) the first thing on my list will be a full rewire.
A full rewire on a modern Goldwing would be a nightmare! I know I personally am not capable of something like that. 😬
@@MotoMengy agreed on that, it would not be easy, and it would be a very costly task to pay someone to take on the job... But my luck with Honda has been as good as I'd imagine a romantic night in with the lady in room 237 being, i.e the lady in the bath, from the shining!
Great review. But the GPS issue can be solved with your cell phone plug in. I prefer that anyway.
My brother has a Garmin for his Pan America and man, he makes me want to put a Garmin on my Wing. Such a wonderful GPS.
Weel nice review, I have the same problem, I had a 2002 Goldwing but during an accident i lost the bike, now watt should I buy --- A goldwing again, bu tI dont know if it wil be a 2018n or later model..
I'd suggest a 2021 or newer Goldwing, they made some nice small improvements since 2021 (standard fog lights, better grab handles, larger trunk, DCT is tuned better, etc).
Thanks we look around see if i can purchase a used one
I don’t own the new Gen Wing. Mine is an 08 GL1800. But I agree with several of your assessments. On the positive side, my GL engine is also super smooth, and the bike is extremely comfortable with rider position, seat and performance. I’m 5’8” as well. On the negative side, the Honda GPS on my model also sucks. I don’t use it. I have a Garmin Zumo 595LM and my iPhone if needed. I love the paint color on my Wing but NO bike brand paint compares to Harley quality and paint options.
It does seem like Honda has the engine for the Wing dialed in to perfection. Not just for this new gen Wing but for many models before it too, lol.
And the price for HD paint reflects that as well. I had a FLHTCUI in black cherry pearl....$400 a quart.
Be sure to show us the air filter when you get it changed.. The location, frequency, labor time to get to it are also a major Con.
I'm already planning to do that, you'll see how bad it is! 😁
The one con for me would be the three step process to just put gas in it. The fuel door should just have a push button on it that would open it and the door/lid should also have the seal built into it like both of our cars. Open the lid put the fuel nozzle in when done close the lid and off you go.
I do agree with that, the fuel door opening procedure is kinda daft. I could have made that one of my cons actually...😆
@@MotoMengy take off the catch off the flap,end of problem!
The locked fuel access door is no issue for me. I rather like it.
Awesome bike, awesome color
Thanks, I like it too!
I built my Horn button up on my 2022 DCT I couldnt find it quickly enough so i made a piece of plastic that sits over it and raises it by 8mm. One drop of superglue on the block not the horn button and now my thumb goes straight to it.
That's a really good idea, I might look into doing something just like that....🤔
the pursuit is ugly. goldwing looks amazing. I want the one in matte blue. looks sick. great video
I actually like how the Pursuit looks, but then I owned Road Glides for over a decade so I probably would like it.
@@MotoMengy oh I see. Nice. I'm looking at the rebel for my first bike. Getting my license in November. 😁
‘Russell Day Long’ seat has heat… most comfortable seat made!
Russell's get recommended a lot, I may have to check one out some day....
@@MotoMengy Dont even think about it,seat makes the bike almost perfect.
Nice review. All those miles with no rider back rest and highway pegs? They will up the comfort factor for you by a LOT and let you shift around a little on that seat. My wife hated that back seat. Mine was perfect for the time I owned it and I kind of miss the really smooth, quiet ride. I do not miss the lack of storage, unsnapping of a ton of plastic to change an air filter, or waiting for the dreaded 5 snowflake error message to pop up for DCT lock up and no start condition. I think if I was to do it again, I’d go with a 6 speed manual. But I truly believe I’m set for now and done buying bikes! Ride safe, Mengy 👍
Honestly I haven't felt I needed highway pegs yet, but the seat is questionable on all day long rides. I've had zero issues with the DCT yet but I have read about others who've had problems like you did. If my Wing ever starts giving me grief then I'll trade it for something else. 😎
@@MotoMengy Hey Mengy - you got a shout out on AmerSheikh’s newest video - he’s touring PA Rt 6…
Those long, thin lateral alloy covers on the engine sides, If it was mine I'd rechrome them in shiny gold (It's a GOLD wing). A nice touch to distinguish mine from others. I'll bet you could get a tough clear coat sprayed on the painted panels to toughen them up some more too. I'm quite jealous. (too old to ride now).
I saw a new Wing on Instagram once who had all the chrome turned to gold finish. It was a black Wing so it actually looked pretty great!
I, too, am too old for the bike, so I ride a 2018 trike conversion. I'm 85 and counting. and I'm feeling no need to stop yet!
I ABSOLUTELY love that Blue. All I see online and for sale is Ardent Red Ardent Red Ardent Red Ardent Red. Yours is the only blue one ive seen Wtf!!!!😢
I don't see many Goldwings in the blue either. I often wonder why that is because its a great color!
No highway pegs? I haven't put them on my 2021 yet. Not sure what to go with.
I initially planned to put highway pegs on but I haven't felt much like I've needed them yet. I probably won't ever bother honestly.
i've heard guys use borescopes or endoscopes to look down into the air filter housing to inspect the filter. saw one on amazon that plugs into your phone for 20 bucks,,, that's what i'd do. i'm looking at a 2019 GW dct and your review inched me a bit closer to pulling the trigger. been on victory visions for the past 10 yrs so i'm pretty spoiled.
That borescope thing is a neat idea. I might have to pick one of those up with my Amazon points...🤔
I went from a Vision to a 2019 GW, I loved the Vision But......... I think the GW with DCT is much better. Just my opinion.
Great video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Great video and great review. While I agree that the GPS mostly sucks, I have to consider that it's all new to Honda since it took them so long to even incorporate the GPS and Bluetooth into the Goldwing, And I have high hopes that they will at some point get it right. I've worked around the contrast thing by switching it to black and white mode while going through the twisties etc. It makes it so much better to see the roads, and I can switch it back when I get back on the regular roads... But yea... it's OK, but it sucks.I wish they would make it more customizable and / or add stuff like a digital speedometer, Parking Brake indicator, etc. in their updates. A touchscreen would be mice too. The helmet lock sucks too. The seam in my seat split and I checked if it was covered under warranty from Honda. Honda informed me that my warranty had recently expired, and they replaced it anyway. This isn't the first time that Honda stepped up for me either. So here the thing... Considering the AWESOME-ness of this bike, the power, agility, and the exceptional customer service, It's hard for me to not overlook their first attempt at GPS. Thanks for the channel & Ride Safe.
Thanks Rodney! And yeah the helmet lock is pretty much worthless.
Coming off Harleys and the last 10 years on a Victory Cross County... I was tossed up between the Pursuit and Goldwing, I've decided to go with the Wing. Mainly because I want to get off the "customization-upgrade train"....I feel like the Wing is ready to go out of the box(especially the one I'm going to buy, which has an Ultimate Seat and Corbin wide bags already installed). After I buy, it needs nothing, I can ride it and only have to get the wrenches out for regular maintenance. I feel like the Pursuit might coax me back into the bad habit of upgrading....you know, expensive stuff like exhaust, stage kits, bars, custom boards etc. etc. etc.... No thanks
I would have one suggestion for a possible mod to your new Wing: if you are 5'8" or less then the Helibar blocks to put the grips back a little bit make a TON of difference. The stock bars were a bit too forward for me, but the Helibar blocks made it absolutely perfectly comfortable. Of course if the stock bars don't bother you then you are good to go, congrats! 😎
Great review, bike looks good. But I still recon pre 18 models are better.modern tech etc in the pre 18 bike wood be perfect…be safe.🇬🇧👍
Many Goldwing fans do still prefer the previous gen model. I never liked them, just felt too large and bulky to me.
Great review, Have you figured out a new seat solution yet?
No, I'm mostly okay with the stock one, but I'll probably research finding a better one this year. I don't need a more comfy seat, but it would be nice to have one.
@@MotoMengy I went with Wingsoft, the guy is in Texas, you send your seat to him and he rebuilds it. I love mine and the price is great.
I just bought a 2023 a few days ago, and... the GPS hasn't changed. It still sucks!!
Congrats! Oh and I'm so sorry. 😎
Let me guess, an Ardent Red Dct...
I’ve been riding Harleys since 1985, dressers since 1990. I’ve been interested in the wing since the DCT came out. In 4 years, I’ve only seen 1 new Goldwing sitting in a shop, a 2021. I’ve yet to see a new Goldwing g on the floor of any Honda dealer I’ve visited in 4 years. If it wasn’t for Americade last year, I would have never had the chance to ride one. I’d like to at least have the chance to throw my leg over a $30 thousand dollar bike I was going to buy.
My local Honda dealers can't barely keep any Wings on the floor either, they sell almost as soon as they get them. They do usually have demo Wings in house though just for test rides, which is very nice.
I’ve seen them on the floor in the two local dealerships where I live but they don’t stay unsold very long. I have never had a chance to ride one.
your cons are like every single Goldwing I saw why don't you email Honda because just everyone says the very same as u on the cons so they might perhaps improve it , ?
Yeah, the cons of the Wing are pretty universally agreed upon. Honda actually has fixed a few of them over time, but not all.
Excellent video
Thank you very much!😎
Have you changed your air filter yet? I was watching a video of the guy with the highest mileage Goldwing (almost 700k) and he only changes his every 100k- for him once a year.
No, technically I'm past due for the air filter but I'm doing it this winter. The bike is running great and MPG is unchanged so I doubt the filter is all that dirty, but it will be interesting to see how bad it is once I tear the bike apart!
Thanks for the reply. I have a 21 and have been wondering about when I will change mine. I think you are correct. If your mileage hasn’t changed the engine is getting enough air.
When riding in manual mode, using the toggle switches, do you release the throttle, or keep it at the position that you are riding at, when up shifting or down shifting?
With our Ca-Am Spyder RT Limited, you do not release the throttle, when shifting up, or down with the toggle pads. Good review, :-). Safe Travels.
Nah you don't need to change the throttle at all, you can freely shift under full throttle if you want to, it's great!
Which year Goldwing DCT is the best to buy used ?
I'd suggest a 2021 or newer Goldwing, they got some nice little improvements since that year.
@@MotoMengy or wait and see 2025 (cruise control adaptive?)
Have you really never heard about Corbin ? Strange. The number 1 in the world in after market seats. Heated and cooled if you want. I live in Belgium, Europe, Corbin is in the US, but I know Corbin almost my entire life (57 now).
Corbin makes good seats. If I ever do get a new seat it will likely be from them.
I ordered a Corbin seat for my Ducati 999. I am 57 so a little comfort is welcome. Now just wait a few weeks.@@MotoMengy
Yah, wonder what happens if something goes wrong towing a trailer with a motorcycle…
I've never towed a trailer with a bike. I see lots of Goldwing riders doing it though, so it can't be too bad?
I’ve been contemplating trading in my 2018 HD CVO Limited for a Gold Wing and or a BMW K1600GTL. I enjoy my HD but, I’m looking for something more sporty and better performing.
I'd say test ride a new Wing to see if its comfortable for you, they are definitely more sporty and better performing. 😎
I owned a 2020 Goldwing and a 2018 BMW K1600. I sold the BMW but kept the Goldwing. That tells you which one I liked better. The BMW felt light and nimble on the road, engine purred nicely, but the Goldwing was more comfortable on long trips, better gas mileage on regular instead of premium gas, and tracked better in curves, poor weather (wind and rain). The BMW felt top heavy at slow speeds and walking it. Goldwing has lower center of gravity and a better reverse mode too. Although similar in weight, Goldwing was easy to put up on its center stand, not so much with the BMW. I believe maintenance costs for BMW were higher than the Goldwing too. I'm 5'9, 188lbs, and 67 yoa.
Agreed.
Well said! 😁
Have you ever had the air filter replaced? Thanks Megey
Not yet, going to do it myself this winter. I've read it's a daunting task but I want to try anyway...😮
Lookin good…
Thanks MARR! 😁
OMG Look at the size of that BEAST!!! What's it weigh?
823 lbs, give or take a bit. Might sound heavy but that's 100 lbs lighter than my Road Glide Ultra weighed! 😮
Honda has a new gps update out on their website.
Woah so they do, checking it out now, thanks! 👍
Do you still own your harleys
No, I traded in my Roadglide for the Goldwing. I've always traded them in when getting newer models as I only own one bike at a time. So far at least. 😎
My center pocket opens fine but the whole thing is kinda chinsy for the level that this bike is on.
Lucky you, I wish my center pocket door opened nicely. What year is your Wing? Maybe they fixed it on newer models?
@@MotoMengy I have a 2021 opening is easy but closing it requires no obstacles being close to the latch.
Have you ever road with Chris before
Chris Caliente? No, he's deep in the south, but maybe someday I'll get to meet him!
My battery started acting up at 5 months. So disappointed
I've heard others complain about the stock Goldwing battery, but knock on wood mine's been a champ so far.
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Roadsofa has heat and is lush and plush, cushy for your tushy
Some Wing owners hate the roadsofa nickname, but I kinda love it! 😁
Put a trailer hitch on it then buy the rack that goes in the receiver, problem solved
That is something I've considered.
What about the smart phone why have any GPS on a bike save $$$ bare bones is best☮️
Most people do this, but the major downside is when you lose cel reception you lose your map. GPS units don't have this issue, and I often ride out in the middle of nowhere without reception. For people who always ride in developed areas its certainly a great option though!
No offense buddy but 10 hours on your backside in the nicest recliner and it would start to get uncomfortable..you really are searching for something bad to say about it 😀. Just let it go, it's just about a perfect machine
I will admit I had to reach quite a bit to make a list of five cons, the bike is just too awesome!!! 😁
Indian has an electric windshield
Yep, that's a huge reason why I LOVE the Challenger and Pursuit!
Use apple car play
I can't on the Wing without a BT headset, which I don't have. 😔