I like the styling of the GR86, much better looking than the 1st gen Toyota 86, and the Supra style duck tail spoiler on the Premium trim makes it look even better. Could Use a bit more power, maybe adding about 100 hp would have been better. Styling would be an 8 out of 10, power would be about 4 or 5 out of 10, otherwise it is a nice overall car though.
I have a first gen so I am just jealous, I will say I do like the general body shape of the old body, not a huge fan of how it looks other than the duck tail, front fenders, and side skirts
8 or 8.5. It lacks on power, but you can make less powerful cars fun. And being that it's less powerful, you can hone your skills better. It's great to have power, so long as you can use it properly! Driver mods like you said😌
All these years later we still find the need to explain this car. It's a driver's car nearly anyone can have, plain and simple. It has just enough of everything to have fun but most importantly it connects the driver to the machine and the road its treading upon in a very engaging way. They didn't put money in HP and gadgets, it went into a chassis and suspension geometry that puts it in the same class as more expensive cars. The car was also made for tuners to provide a capable and clean canvas to start from. I am so glad they decided to give this platform a new generation and continued support in a time that would make little sense to do so.
Sounds perfect to me. A platform to get into and gradually make enhancements and huge amounts of learning on the way. Very attractive and unique. Also sounds like a little version of the Supra.
I’ve had the new brz since the end of December and honestly love everything about this car. The way it handles the way it looks and the way you can easily shift through gears is great. I’ll give it a 9/10. Only thing I don’t like is the cup holder placements and how there is really no where to put your phone
I have a 2022 brz automatic and I HATE the PCB (pre collision break) you have to turn it off every time you get in the car. I like to swerve in traffic and don’t get me wrong the car is great for turning but when I don’t turn off PCB it auto breaks when I get close to a car to swerve.. it also keeps telling me there’s an obstacle ahead which I AM aware of.. also the seatbelt chime is annoying but everything else is great!
I am a 1st gen GT86 owner, and i got behind the wheel of a 22 BRZ from a dealership close to me. I fell in love with the driving experience and would love to get my hands on a GR86, tho im not able to afford one right now, and it makes me appreciate my GT86 more in a way, these cars are special to me, just make me think about why i fell in love with them in the first place, and it all started bc of the AE86. Like i always say, you don't need a lot of power to have fun 🚘
I've had my GR86 PREMIUM for about a week. I love it. Only things I really dislike on it is the fact that it is insanely quiet while stock. The sound system is also not the best. Other than that I love.
Picked up the 86 about a month ago, drove it in the rain for the first time today it’s great fun to slide around overall very responsive, fun and rewarding car that begs you to push it
I'm getting a GR86 as an "upgrade" from my motorcycle - so having a heater and A/C, a stereo, cruise control, room for some groceries, and a comfortable seat seems like the height of luxury to me.
The GR86 has a more “drifty” suspension and the BRZ has a more “tight through corner” feel. The GR has a more jumpy throttle body whereas the BRZ’s throttle has a more linear response. There are a lot of more differences between the two then most people think.
The difference in the throttle that you just described is just the different tunes which is pretty easy to change. The biggest difference is that the rear sway bar is attached to the sub frame on the Toyota but it attaches to the body on the Subaru, giving them the different feelings in the corners. Other than that I'm pretty sure all the differences are cosmetic.
Love my BRZ! I have only seen the 1 other car (GR86) on the road. For a base it has a great overall package especially if you're going to mod it anyway. For those sticking with stock wheels use 20-25mm wheel spacers, gives the car some nice poke!
My first car I’ve ever bought. I’m new to the car community and super excited to mod the hell out of my BRZ and the more I learn from other car enthusiasts the more I fall in move with my car. It’s amazing to know I own this car and what I can do with it is limitless.
Dig the looks, dig the lsd standard, don't dig the boxer other than it's low cg. And don't dig electronic throttle control. If the throttle is crisp and it handles as good as it looks would say its a win.
Absolutely love my GR86 - just picked mine up a week ago. I have never been excited about driving until now. My last car was a 2012 TL and although it had a boatload more horsepower, just wasn’t as fun to drive. Just wish there was a better center console and somewhere to put my glasses.
Oh boy I've had my manual gr86 in track red since Jan 5th. Wanted this car for 6 years and finally can afford it. It's amazing and keep watching y'all's vids on wheels cuz I got to get some good ones.
I'm a little biased towards the first gen 86/brz but I wait to test drive one of these. This gen is slowly growing on me and when some units become available to test I'm taking it for a whirl for sure.
Couldn't agree more about the rear end. I myself also was a little (meh) about the rear, It looked alright? yet no? but yea it kinda worked? but?..... and so on. But after a while, It grew on me.
Haven’t had the chance to drive my BRZ much yet (Wisconsin winters) but it’s a blast so far. It’s a bit more predictable than the s2000 and has more torque. I’m impressed. I give it a solid 9/10.
They're planning to put the 1.6-liter, three-cylinder, G16E-GTS turbocharged engine from the gr corolla into it so it might come turbocharged after all.
People really can't decide what they want isn't it, i mean when car manufacturers put turbos in a car People will brag about the natural noise it makes and when they didn't put the turbo into the car, People would ask for more power and turbocharged the thing.
I test drove an auto Neptune premium at the dealer, then found a dealer a few states away that had someone back out of a gr86 premium manual in trueno blue. It arrives to port tomorrow so should have it in just a few weeks. Super pumped
If only the GR86 were actually available it would be the no-brainer. Here in the SF Bay Area, my order that I placed in January won't be here until JANUARY 2023! Dealers around here have been saying that there has been zero of them coming in since the start of this year.
Power is actually around 250hp (210ish to the wheels) and almost 200ftlb of torque. Can easily get it to 300hp without boost with a good exhaust, tune and E85. Buddy I know with a BRZ 2022 got 277hp at the wheels with those exact mods which cost him less than $1000 and was able to cut the 0-60 time by around 1 second but he also has better tires and suspension.
I'd say the new 86 gets a good 8/10. There's nothing wrong with it as it is, but I think it could have been made better with a typical inline four layout for the sake of weight savings, and replacing the Macpherson struts in the front with dual wishbones. Plus, especially considering the original AE86 had both a coupe and liftback form, I was hoping for a liftback version of the new one. But those are all pretty major changes that had no real chance, so I'm perfectly happy with what we got.
@@cryptical6403 I just found one on a whim and bought it for $30k. I'm not exaggerating, I made over 100 phone calls before finding it. You can actually get lucky but you have to just start calling toyota dealers until you find one that has recently been allocated it and buy it before it gets to the dealership. I've talked to a ton of dealers in the last few days and that's actually how these cars are selling. These cars are hitting dealer websites and then people from all around the country are calling to buy them. A guy in California just flew to my local toyota dealer in Michigan to buy a base model and it was only on the website for 3 hours before it was claimed. You can still find plenty of automatics though if you want to have no fun with it lol
I have an 18 Corvette Z51. And we just bought a GR86. It’s almost as fun to drive as Corvette. I love this car. Plenty of power for size and looks beautiful. If you can find one for sticker buy it.
Hell yeah! Any plans for them? Or have you done anything? Here’s a link to the gallery if you want some ideas! -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/wheel-offset-gallery
If you are seriously considering this car in hopes that you’ll be able to turbo charge, I highly suggest waiting to see how the aftermarket turns out! I can guarantee you that this FA24 is not the same as the turbo variant’s found in the new wrx and the old/new ascent’s wait until someone does a tear down of the engine and identifies the weaknesses of this new platform. Nothing sucks more than buying into a new Platform that is DOA because you can’t do anything to increase power
Almost got one of these but I'm holding out till the end of this year for the GR Corolla, I need that extra cargo and seating space it offers vs the GR86 which is non existent
I think it’s a 10, it’s gonna be good on gas, maintenance shouldn’t be too bad, it’s RWD (relatability), you’re gonna have amazing customer service from either Subaru or Toyota, and Theres gonna be sooooo many body kits and interior stuff I can’t wait!!!
10/10 the GR86 is reviving the rear wheel drive, 4 cylinder sports car model that I fell in love with in the 90s. It isn't super fast, which is fine, because it's not supposed to be. It's bare bones which allows you to take it in the direction that you want. This will be a coveted vehicle a few years from now. EDIT: I grew up driving a Nissan 240SX fastback. And I was really hoping Nissan would revive the line. But I am happily awaiting my GR86s arrival.
My 2023 BRZ is amazing in all respects, between my 981 PDK boxster and BRZ manual I really have the best of both worlds of naturally aspirated engines that are fun to drive on the streets and on the race track. The only thing I don't like about my new BRZ is the road noise mostly on the freeway.
Video didn’t mention the engine being underrated.. Toyota/Subaru says it makes 228hp, but dynos are literally reading 222whp…this engine is actually making 250hp. Which puts in it in 2.0L Supra/WRX territory…hence why Toyota/Subaru had to underrate the hp number. Also, Car & Driver’s official 0-60mph time for a stock GR86 is 5.4 secs, noticeable difference for people who think it takes a full 6.0 secs.
Stop with the turbo nonsense. I chose this car exactly because it doesn't have one. It's naturally aspirated, manual, rear wheel drive, pure car. That's what this car is all about, driving purity.
I have a GR86 Premium Halo White. I rate it 9/10, the only issues I have are the rear fender lip causing fitment issues and that my elbow keeps hitting the center console button and opening it. Running Kansei KNPs 18x9 +35 (grey) and Revel coilovers . -1.8 degrees camber front and -3.2 degrees camber in the rear.
this car is massively underrated. It looks great, produces decent power, and will have a lot of aftermarket support. Wish I could own one. This car is way better than the new civic si and cheaper
been an owner since mid February. After the first week and a Vegas trip for SoCal, i put an Invidia N2 and Invidia Catless front pipe on. another week passed and i put BC BR coils all around. been driving it like this for a few weeks already, only cause pink gram lights don't look too hot with the square 18x9.5 on 225/45/18. So far loving the car; it's functionally low, sounds fricken great, and loved learning how to drive manual in it. I loved driving my 2017 86 AT with all the same mods and driving experience has really changed from last gen to current. 9.8/10 -.2 no turbo and waiting on EL Headers + Flex Fuel kits
@@FitmentIndustries So far just stickier 225/40R17 GT Radial tires, a Tsudo SE catback, 20mm wheel spacers, Like wise Daytona shift knob, K&N drop in filter and a charcoal filter delete yellow taillight overlays. Coming up mods already purchased but waiting to install are Color fittings Oil cooler, gas pedal spacer for easier heel-toe, Track spec brake pads, DOT4 brake fluid, OEM mudguards. Future mods include coil overs by end of year not sure on brand yet. And later at the 2 year mark some 17x9 wheels with +40-+42 offset leaning toward the mach V awesome or something in that price range. My tuner already dyno'd mine so we got a nice baseline ready for when Ecutek cracks the ECU and we can tune for more power, Ethanol, headers and full exhaust. No plans to boost it anytime soon. This car already does great as is. I am also new to the rwd platform having driven FWD and AWD my whole life so im not trying to push too much power until i learn to handle it as is.
@@FitmentIndustries yeah stock 17's for now. Since wheels and tires and a big $$$ purchase im leaving that toward the end and focusing on other less expensive stuff first. Might paint them to change the look a bit since that wont cost me an arm and a leg.
9/10 I’ve had mine for about a month now, easily the most fun car I’ve ever driven. The way it corners and powers through with that linear NA powerband is amazing. Only thing I dislike is the cup holder placement
I purchased a BRZ in WR Blue the last week of December (the only one that my smaller town dealer got). Car is amazing and makes me smile every time that I get behind the wheel. Only have 400 miles on mine because of weather. Cannot wait to be able to drive mine more regularly! Love the Fitment wheels that are available. I am going to order a new set. Great video and thanks for posting.
Lets go! You know where to find us, and if you need some inspiration, we have the gallery as you know! 👌👌👌 -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
Ive been looking at the GR86 for a bit now, I'm seriously debating on pulling the trigger, but of course I'm stuck between the stock manual or the automatic.
Anyone looking to buy this car and can’t test drive, it is significantly quicker than the 1st gen. It is very tail happy! Perfect for anyone getting into drifting or modifying. Great daily driver, Has a lot of “new car features” if you do track this car your first mod will be brakes. Anyone over 6’5” 280+ should look for a bigger car. When ever I get out of it and walk into a store I always look back at it and say.. damn that’s a fine car, totally worth the price but anything over msrp is a rip off. If you find a brz for msrp and want the 86 and there’s an 86 with a 15k mark up you’re paying for a $15,000 bumper styling.
I wanna see it slammed to the ground running a ton of offset, aggressive but neat lip, side skirt and diffuser body kit, a different wing. The car already looks wide so i don't see the need for over fender body kits
GR86 is tops on my list for my next purchase to replace my daily driver. It will definitely be peppier than what I daily right now. I miss shifting and I've not had that ability for over 3 years.
Honestly looking at buying this as my proper next new car in 3-4 years. It's a manual, non-turbo, coupe; a last one of it's kind. Yeah a turbo means more power, it also means more issues & maintenance down the line; an NA car is just nice.
If the GR86 is in fact the second Gen, then what would that make the AE86 Trueno? (The original JDM Icon that this and and the previous 86 are based off of.)
The new BRZ is better in every way. It has more power (even more than Subaru states, 245hp more realistically), it is more comfortable, it rides better, it's nicer on the inside, and has more premium features like LED headlights and tail lights. The only down sides are the slightly reduced steering feel, lower MPG, and no spare tire. Outside of that, it's a pretty significant upgrade over the first gen.
In my Opinion, I'll go with BRZ anytime any generation. Because it's genuine and it's in it's blood, The Boxer. GT86/GR 86 is just a Rebadged and slightly cosmetic changed BRZ.
Kinda funny, some people call the BRZ the more rebadged of the two considering that it was Toyota's idea to build a RWD sports car and that Subaru initally didn't want to get involved with this.
I switch from a Porsche Cayman to the GR86 & I actually like it better. The GR86 has more creature comforts and does several things better than the Porsche and is only about 1-1.5 seconds slower in acceleration only. I also don’t have to sell my first born in order to make any mods or repairs.
Lets go! Glad to see a lot of people are switching from what everyone considers prestige brands. Definitely going to be a lot of support coming! -Edgar
I owned a BRZ, I traded it for a Kia Stinger. It was not for me but I appreciate it. The horsepower does get old on the highway. In the city it’s pretty fun.
10/10!!!!!!! I had a 2002 Celica GT 5 speed......which was only 140ish horsepower and front wheel drive.....and it was A BLAST to drive so I have no idea why anyone would be unhappy with 228 HP, rear wheel drive and another gear!! I can't wait to see what TJ Hunt and his Streethunter brand has coming out soon for these!!!
I’d give these a 9.8. These are really really good cars, I think they look really good, not to say that the previous gens looked bad what so ever I thought they also look very beautiful both in their own ways.They have have perfect interiors, good textures at certain touch points, not overdone, not a giant head unit up in the drivers field of view, no gimmicky haptic feedback buttons, available 6-speed, and I got to give Toyota and Subaru props for making a great car still with a stick and also this thing drive very very good according to journalists and a lot of pro drivers and car review TH-camrs. Great car
I think the car is a masterpiece it’s refreshing to see somebody build A true sports car that is affordable you don’t need turbos and 600 hp to have fun like he said you need to learn the car and they look awesome slammed with rims omg the possibilities are endless with this car the key thing is it’s a affordable NA RWD sport car with a stick 🙏
Rate the new GR86 or BRZ on a scale of 1-10 and why in the comments below!
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I like the styling of the GR86, much better looking than the 1st gen Toyota 86, and the Supra style duck tail spoiler on the Premium trim makes it look even better. Could Use a bit more power, maybe adding about 100 hp would have been better. Styling would be an 8 out of 10, power would be about 4 or 5 out of 10, otherwise it is a nice overall car though.
I have a first gen so I am just jealous, I will say I do like the general body shape of the old body, not a huge fan of how it looks other than the duck tail, front fenders, and side skirts
8 or 8.5. It lacks on power, but you can make less powerful cars fun. And being that it's less powerful, you can hone your skills better. It's great to have power, so long as you can use it properly! Driver mods like you said😌
Um yea, underwhelmed 5
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As an GR86 owner, to me at least, it's probably the best thing since sliced bread. I cannot wait to see what the aftermarket can do!
So much support right off the gate haha -Edgar
How much you get yours for?
@@king.victor4607 MSRP & not a cent more!
@@gilbertosantos2806 lucky
@TheSpartanist There are multiple articles on the net that say 22' version will have a turbo? is that true?
All these years later we still find the need to explain this car. It's a driver's car nearly anyone can have, plain and simple. It has just enough of everything to have fun but most importantly it connects the driver to the machine and the road its treading upon in a very engaging way. They didn't put money in HP and gadgets, it went into a chassis and suspension geometry that puts it in the same class as more expensive cars. The car was also made for tuners to provide a capable and clean canvas to start from. I am so glad they decided to give this platform a new generation and continued support in a time that would make little sense to do so.
👏👏👏 -Edgar
Sounds perfect to me. A platform to get into and gradually make enhancements and huge amounts of learning on the way. Very attractive and unique. Also sounds like a little version of the Supra.
I've already seen 2 of these in person and I'd drive one for sure.
Same here honestly. Lil ripper. -Edgar
Yea, imo online they look bad but in person I actually really like em
Beautiful car, but with the 2023 Nissan Z coming out I’m going to save for the extra horses
@@MikeOxhard69420 they definitely dont look bad online lol. at least the GR86 doesnt.
@@Stephen-go5gl its all opinion my man
I’ve had the new brz since the end of December and honestly love everything about this car. The way it handles the way it looks and the way you can easily shift through gears is great. I’ll give it a 9/10. Only thing I don’t like is the cup holder placements and how there is really no where to put your phone
great feedbacks, looking forward for it to launch in my country, gonna get it for my birthday in December
Oh man.. if it doesn’t pass a cup holder check then idk.. -Edgar
I have a 2022 brz automatic and I HATE the PCB (pre collision break) you have to turn it off every time you get in the car. I like to swerve in traffic and don’t get me wrong the car is great for turning but when I don’t turn off PCB it auto breaks when I get close to a car to swerve.. it also keeps telling me there’s an obstacle ahead which I AM aware of.. also the seatbelt chime is annoying but everything else is great!
Does it feel “fast enough”?
@@kevinchung5288 that’s what happens when you buy the auto haha
Ordered mine last Saturday, hoping it will get here in 4 - 6 months. I will be among the first people to get one in Germany, i'm really really hyped.
Hell yeah! That’s dope! -Edgar
did it arrive?
@@alexkubitza6992 my dealer got the official delivery date from Toyota yesterday it should arrive at the 18th of October
@@liketechno4396 congrats man! Ordered my 23’ brz about 4 months ago, still waiting on an exact delivery date but I was told August/October
I am a 1st gen GT86 owner, and i got behind the wheel of a 22 BRZ from a dealership close to me. I fell in love with the driving experience and would love to get my hands on a GR86, tho im not able to afford one right now, and it makes me appreciate my GT86 more in a way, these cars are special to me, just make me think about why i fell in love with them in the first place, and it all started bc of the AE86. Like i always say, you don't need a lot of power to have fun 🚘
Exactly! Can always have fun and bomb around town with something moderate. -Edgar
I've had my GR86 PREMIUM for about a week. I love it.
Only things I really dislike on it is the fact that it is insanely quiet while stock. The sound system is also not the best. Other than that I love.
the company expects all GR86 owner to be modifying the heck out of it, so bad audio&quiet exhaust is acceptable. MOD IT
You have options! 👀 have fun with it. 🤘🏾 -Edgar
Is the car hard to get ?
@@noicecars3052 yes. Good luck
@@noicecars3052 out in california a manual is hard to find thats for sure
Picked up the 86 about a month ago, drove it in the rain for the first time today it’s great fun to slide around overall very responsive, fun and rewarding car that begs you to push it
🤝🤝🤝 -Edgar
I like the way the GR86 looks over the BRZ but they're pretty much the same. That being said...10/10 for sure and I want one so bad!
Let’s goooo! 👏🏾👏🏾 -Edgar
The difference between the 2 is on the limit the brz wants to understeer and the gr86 wants to oversteer
I'm getting a GR86 as an "upgrade" from my motorcycle - so having a heater and A/C, a stereo, cruise control, room for some groceries, and a comfortable seat seems like the height of luxury to me.
The GR86 has a more “drifty” suspension and the BRZ has a more “tight through corner” feel. The GR has a more jumpy throttle body whereas the BRZ’s throttle has a more linear response. There are a lot of more differences between the two then most people think.
The difference in the throttle that you just described is just the different tunes which is pretty easy to change. The biggest difference is that the rear sway bar is attached to the sub frame on the Toyota but it attaches to the body on the Subaru, giving them the different feelings in the corners. Other than that I'm pretty sure all the differences are cosmetic.
Picked mine up last Tuesday. It’s the funnest car I’ve ever driven.
congratz
Any plans for it? -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries Fitment lol with some spacers. I like the stock premium wheels
How much u pay?
10/10. Improved power band, improved power, great looks, great for mods.
💪🏽👏🏾🔥 -Edgar
Somebody simply saying "GR86" is enough to make me smile. Fucking love everything about this car, really hope I can own one sometime.
Make it happen! -Edgar
I think they did a good job of making a new sports car that can actually be afforded by alot of people. Manual transmission makes a difference too!
For sure! Let’s hope more manufacturers can take note and do that. -Edgar
Love my BRZ! I have only seen the 1 other car (GR86) on the road.
For a base it has a great overall package especially if you're going to mod it anyway.
For those sticking with stock wheels use 20-25mm wheel spacers, gives the car some nice poke!
OORRR.. but up fitmentindustries.com and check out the gallery for some inspiration. 👀🔌 -Edgar
I will....prooobably pick one of these up in a few years. They look like an absolute blast!!
My first car I’ve ever bought. I’m new to the car community and super excited to mod the hell out of my BRZ and the more I learn from other car enthusiasts the more I fall in move with my car. It’s amazing to know I own this car and what I can do with it is limitless.
That greenish blue brz looks familiar 👀
Well hello there.. 👀 fancy seeing you here! -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries 😈
😍😍😍 how’s everything homie? Congrats on the feature! -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries been good, gotta make my way up there so y’all can get a hands on video haha
I was going to say, always welcomed to slide on through! Let us know! 🤝🤝🤝 -Edgar
Dig the looks, dig the lsd standard, don't dig the boxer other than it's low cg. And don't dig electronic throttle control. If the throttle is crisp and it handles as good as it looks would say its a win.
Absolutely love my GR86 - just picked mine up a week ago. I have never been excited about driving until now. My last car was a 2012 TL and although it had a boatload more horsepower, just wasn’t as fun to drive. Just wish there was a better center console and somewhere to put my glasses.
Definitely a drivers car! Glad you're enjoying it. Why not put them in the sun visor or somewhere wild? 👀 -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries 100%! I got a clip for the sun visor.
Why was that Toonami and Adult Swim thing so fucking relatable LMAO
Day 1 of asking for “So you want a Lexus 2nd gen IS250-350”
Here we go. 👀👀👀 -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries day 2 of asking for “So you want a Lexus 2nd gen IS250-350” unless you upload a video then I’ll comment on the new one
Oh boy I've had my manual gr86 in track red since Jan 5th. Wanted this car for 6 years and finally can afford it. It's amazing and keep watching y'all's vids on wheels cuz I got to get some good ones.
🤝🤝🤝 thanks for the support homie, you know where we are at for when you're ready for for your order! -Edgar
10/10 its beautiful, manual, and an actual car, not an electric soulless appliance
Imo the GR86 looks way better than the BRZ.
Well, it is still a 9 or 10 simply for the RWD manual.
Manuals becoming harder to come by! -Edgar
I'm a little biased towards the first gen 86/brz but I wait to test drive one of these. This gen is slowly growing on me and when some units become available to test I'm taking it for a whirl for sure.
The video I’ve been waiting for 😁
❤️❤️🤘🏾 hope you enjoyed! -Edgar
FYI Zenki: Pre facelift 2013-2016, Kouki: After facelift 2017-2021, Shingata: New type 2022+.
Really want one in Neptune blue its so clean
Couldn't agree more about the rear end.
I myself also was a little (meh) about the rear, It looked alright? yet no? but yea it kinda worked? but?..... and so on.
But after a while, It grew on me.
Grows on everyone! -Edgar
Haven’t had the chance to drive my BRZ much yet (Wisconsin winters) but it’s a blast so far. It’s a bit more predictable than the s2000 and has more torque. I’m impressed. I give it a solid 9/10.
Ayeee whats up fellow Wisconsinite! What are your plans for it? -Edgar
They're planning to put the 1.6-liter, three-cylinder, G16E-GTS turbocharged engine from the gr corolla into it so it might come turbocharged after all.
People really can't decide what they want isn't it, i mean when car manufacturers put turbos in a car People will brag about the natural noise it makes and when they didn't put the turbo into the car, People would ask for more power and turbocharged the thing.
I test drove an auto Neptune premium at the dealer, then found a dealer a few states away that had someone back out of a gr86 premium manual in trueno blue. It arrives to port tomorrow so should have it in just a few weeks. Super pumped
Hell yeah! 💪💪💪 you're going to have a blast! -Edgar
I would 10/10 love to get one but at the moment I'm stuck between should I wait or should I get a 1st gen with face lift 🤩
Get the 22 for sure. The new car is nicer in every way. Its also faster than the last gen even with full bolt ons and e85 tune.
Get the new one to directly support the analogue car. Because its days are numbered.
If only the GR86 were actually available it would be the no-brainer. Here in the SF Bay Area, my order that I placed in January won't be here until JANUARY 2023! Dealers around here have been saying that there has been zero of them coming in since the start of this year.
Ooff.. that’s frigging rough! Hopefully they address that. -Edgar
I ordered mine like 2 weeks ago, eagerly awaiting a call from the dealership saying its ready for pickup!
Let’s gooo! Let’s party! -Edgar
How much u pay?
Power is actually around 250hp (210ish to the wheels) and almost 200ftlb of torque. Can easily get it to 300hp without boost with a good exhaust, tune and E85. Buddy I know with a BRZ 2022 got 277hp at the wheels with those exact mods which cost him less than $1000 and was able to cut the 0-60 time by around 1 second but he also has better tires and suspension.
I'd say the new 86 gets a good 8/10. There's nothing wrong with it as it is, but I think it could have been made better with a typical inline four layout for the sake of weight savings, and replacing the Macpherson struts in the front with dual wishbones. Plus, especially considering the original AE86 had both a coupe and liftback form, I was hoping for a liftback version of the new one. But those are all pretty major changes that had no real chance, so I'm perfectly happy with what we got.
Maybe the next variation! Never know. -Edgar
It's absolutely worth the MSRP. This thing is magnificent, full stop.
Hard ash to find msrp be seeing 40k and over, highest 52k
@@cryptical6403 I just found one on a whim and bought it for $30k. I'm not exaggerating, I made over 100 phone calls before finding it. You can actually get lucky but you have to just start calling toyota dealers until you find one that has recently been allocated it and buy it before it gets to the dealership. I've talked to a ton of dealers in the last few days and that's actually how these cars are selling. These cars are hitting dealer websites and then people from all around the country are calling to buy them. A guy in California just flew to my local toyota dealer in Michigan to buy a base model and it was only on the website for 3 hours before it was claimed. You can still find plenty of automatics though if you want to have no fun with it lol
@@mikecurry6847yeah i kinda ended up buying one for over msrp 😐😂😂 it’s fine tho 🥲
It grew on me. Didn’t initially like it, but now I’d like one.
I figure as long as they can get some in stock and continue, I don’t see why they wouldn’t be more successful than the first gen.
A lot of people are enjoying the new platform, only a matter of time! -Edgar
I have an 18 Corvette Z51. And we just bought a GR86. It’s almost as fun to drive as Corvette. I love this car. Plenty of power for size and looks beautiful. If you can find one for sticker buy it.
Hell yeah! Any plans for them? Or have you done anything? Here’s a link to the gallery if you want some ideas! -Edgar
www.fitmentindustries.com/wheel-offset-gallery
If you are seriously considering this car in hopes that you’ll be able to turbo charge, I highly suggest waiting to see how the aftermarket turns out! I can guarantee you that this FA24 is not the same as the turbo variant’s found in the new wrx and the old/new ascent’s wait until someone does a tear down of the engine and identifies the weaknesses of this new platform. Nothing sucks more than buying into a new Platform that is DOA because you can’t do anything to increase power
Good insight to look at! -Edgar
The back end look exactly like my 2015 accord coupe.
Almost got one of these but I'm holding out till the end of this year for the GR Corolla, I need that extra cargo and seating space it offers vs the GR86 which is non existent
Same, let’s see what happens with the Corolla! -Edgar
good luck getting one for MSRP
I think it’s a 10, it’s gonna be good on gas, maintenance shouldn’t be too bad, it’s RWD (relatability), you’re gonna have amazing customer service from either Subaru or Toyota, and Theres gonna be sooooo many body kits and interior stuff I can’t wait!!!
There’s definitely going to be a lot of support for this platform. -Edgar
10/10 the GR86 is reviving the rear wheel drive, 4 cylinder sports car model that I fell in love with in the 90s. It isn't super fast, which is fine, because it's not supposed to be. It's bare bones which allows you to take it in the direction that you want. This will be a coveted vehicle a few years from now.
EDIT: I grew up driving a Nissan 240SX fastback. And I was really hoping Nissan would revive the line. But I am happily awaiting my GR86s arrival.
ive never related to a toonami reference so hard in my life.
Bruh when I saw all that the memories flooded in. Great times on toonami and adult swim haha. -Edgar
My 2023 BRZ is amazing in all respects, between my 981 PDK boxster and BRZ manual I really have the best of both worlds of naturally aspirated engines that are fun to drive on the streets and on the race track. The only thing I don't like about my new BRZ is the road noise mostly on the freeway.
Video didn’t mention the engine being underrated.. Toyota/Subaru says it makes 228hp, but dynos are literally reading 222whp…this engine is actually making 250hp. Which puts in it in 2.0L Supra/WRX territory…hence why Toyota/Subaru had to underrate the hp number.
Also, Car & Driver’s official 0-60mph time for a stock GR86 is 5.4 secs, noticeable difference for people who think it takes a full 6.0 secs.
This is good insight to have! Thank ya! -Edgar
Stop with the turbo nonsense. I chose this car exactly because it doesn't have one. It's naturally aspirated, manual, rear wheel drive, pure car. That's what this car is all about, driving purity.
Did Toyota steal the tail lights from the 2015 accord coupe?
86 for looks, brz for its NOT REUSED OR CARRIED OVER engineering and frame
I have a GR86 Premium Halo White. I rate it 9/10, the only issues I have are the rear fender lip causing fitment issues and that my elbow keeps hitting the center console button and opening it. Running Kansei KNPs 18x9 +35 (grey) and Revel coilovers . -1.8 degrees camber front and -3.2 degrees camber in the rear.
Ayooo! I hope you have that bad boy up on the gallery! 👌🏽 -Edgar
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this car is massively underrated. It looks great, produces decent power, and will have a lot of aftermarket support. Wish I could own one. This car is way better than the new civic si and cheaper
Not to mention better looking!
you should talk one of the boys into getting one of these so we can get some more content
Maybe one baco tell and hot sauce shots night with Dakota might convince me otherwise.. 👀😂 -Edgsr
been an owner since mid February. After the first week and a Vegas trip for SoCal, i put an Invidia N2 and Invidia Catless front pipe on.
another week passed and i put BC BR coils all around.
been driving it like this for a few weeks already, only cause pink gram lights don't look too hot with the square 18x9.5 on 225/45/18.
So far loving the car; it's functionally low, sounds fricken great, and loved learning how to drive manual in it. I loved driving my 2017 86 AT with all the same mods and driving experience has really changed from last gen to current.
9.8/10
-.2 no turbo and waiting on EL Headers + Flex Fuel kits
That'll be sick once you complete the build! Keep us updated. -Edgar
I love mine coming from 380whp 2018 wrx daily/ occasional track build
There ya go! Whats are the plans for it? Anything done to it so far? -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries So far just stickier 225/40R17 GT Radial tires, a Tsudo SE catback, 20mm wheel spacers, Like wise Daytona shift knob, K&N drop in filter and a charcoal filter delete yellow taillight overlays. Coming up mods already purchased but waiting to install are Color fittings Oil cooler, gas pedal spacer for easier heel-toe, Track spec brake pads, DOT4 brake fluid, OEM mudguards. Future mods include coil overs by end of year not sure on brand yet. And later at the 2 year mark some 17x9 wheels with +40-+42 offset leaning toward the mach V awesome or something in that price range. My tuner already dyno'd mine so we got a nice baseline ready for when Ecutek cracks the ECU and we can tune for more power, Ethanol, headers and full exhaust. No plans to boost it anytime soon. This car already does great as is. I am also new to the rwd platform having driven FWD and AWD my whole life so im not trying to push too much power until i learn to handle it as is.
Hell yeah! As long as you're enjoying it homie. Thats what matters, are you running stocks then im assuming until you get new wheels? -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries yeah stock 17's for now. Since wheels and tires and a big $$$ purchase im leaving that toward the end and focusing on other less expensive stuff first. Might paint them to change the look a bit since that wont cost me an arm and a leg.
9/10 I’ve had mine for about a month now, easily the most fun car I’ve ever driven. The way it corners and powers through with that linear NA powerband is amazing. Only thing I dislike is the cup holder placement
I purchased a BRZ in WR Blue the last week of December (the only one that my smaller town dealer got). Car is amazing and makes me smile every time that I get behind the wheel. Only have 400 miles on mine because of weather. Cannot wait to be able to drive mine more regularly! Love the Fitment wheels that are available. I am going to order a new set. Great video and thanks for posting.
Lets go! You know where to find us, and if you need some inspiration, we have the gallery as you know! 👌👌👌 -Edgar
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Ive been looking at the GR86 for a bit now, I'm seriously debating on pulling the trigger, but of course I'm stuck between the stock manual or the automatic.
manual or gtfo ;)
Bought one and I am a fan. 9/10
Could you do the C4 Corvette? I feel like there is a lot to unpack in that generation, engine, transmission, and of course, fitment wise
C4's are for sure getting popular now! -Edgar
Got my 2022 brz 3 months ago from today. I love it! I owned a 2017 before and the really improved the formula. The looks really grew on me over time.
Glad to hear that homie! 💪💪 -Edgar
I don't want one, but I like watching Fitment.
Ayeee thanks homie! 🙏🏽 -Edgar
Anyone looking to buy this car and can’t test drive, it is significantly quicker than the 1st gen. It is very tail happy! Perfect for anyone getting into drifting or modifying. Great daily driver, Has a lot of “new car features” if you do track this car your first mod will be brakes. Anyone over 6’5” 280+ should look for a bigger car. When ever I get out of it and walk into a store I always look back at it and say.. damn that’s a fine car, totally worth the price but anything over msrp is a rip off. If you find a brz for msrp and want the 86 and there’s an 86 with a 15k mark up you’re paying for a $15,000 bumper styling.
Aiming to get one in November!!
I think this video does a great job explaining what you getting into with the car.
Thanks homie! Appreciate the support, good luck! -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustrieshaha so it took me a while and I finally got mines! Picked it up this Friday! 2024 model!
I can’t find one of these to save my life. They are all sold out before they even get to dealerships lol
I wanna see it slammed to the ground running a ton of offset, aggressive but neat lip, side skirt and diffuser body kit, a different wing. The car already looks wide so i don't see the need for over fender body kits
I’m in the process of buying one of these, and I’m stoked as it’s my first budget sports car
Good luck! Where you able to find one somewhere that wasnt crazy sold out then im assuming?! -Edgar
I have a Audi S3 and I really want a BRZ.
Oooff. That’s a tough one! The S3s are fun, are you bored of it? -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries Not bored of it. I love it but I do miss driving something small, agile and a 6spd every once and awhile.
100% understand! -Edgar
GR86 is tops on my list for my next purchase to replace my daily driver. It will definitely be peppier than what I daily right now. I miss shifting and I've not had that ability for over 3 years.
Honestly looking at buying this as my proper next new car in 3-4 years.
It's a manual, non-turbo, coupe; a last one of it's kind.
Yeah a turbo means more power, it also means more issues & maintenance down the line; an NA car is just nice.
my man edgar really out here answering everyone's comments 👀
Aye wassup! It’s a good time, keeps the time moving. 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾 haha -Edgar
Bought a MT 2023 86 in July. 10/10, would recommend
What about now after a year later?
hah, completely forgot about this comment. But still, 100% yes@@SWEETVENOM100
If the GR86 is in fact the second Gen, then what would that make the AE86 Trueno? (The original JDM Icon that this and and the previous 86 are based off of.)
The new BRZ is better in every way. It has more power (even more than Subaru states, 245hp more realistically), it is more comfortable, it rides better, it's nicer on the inside, and has more premium features like LED headlights and tail lights. The only down sides are the slightly reduced steering feel, lower MPG, and no spare tire. Outside of that, it's a pretty significant upgrade over the first gen.
Do you already have one or got to drive one? -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries Had a 2016 for about 3 years, Have had my 2022 for about a month and a half. Ordered it 10/23, received it 2/11.
In my Opinion, I'll go with BRZ anytime any generation. Because it's genuine and it's in it's blood, The Boxer. GT86/GR 86 is just a Rebadged and slightly cosmetic changed BRZ.
Kinda funny, some people call the BRZ the more rebadged of the two considering that it was Toyota's idea to build a RWD sports car and that Subaru initally didn't want to get involved with this.
I switch from a Porsche Cayman to the GR86 & I actually like it better. The GR86 has more creature comforts and does several things better than the Porsche and is only about 1-1.5 seconds slower in acceleration only. I also don’t have to sell my first born in order to make any mods or repairs.
Lets go! Glad to see a lot of people are switching from what everyone considers prestige brands. Definitely going to be a lot of support coming! -Edgar
I liked because the intro was just about the most relatable thing there was
I tried for a month to get one, but all the dealers had $5k to $10k markups an low low inventory. I gave up
It's a brutal market right now
i work at toyota so i see there everyday they are a smooth drive and the manual tansmission feels so good
I got a World Rally Blue BRZ in January. Go get one because they’re stellar and make sure it’s a stick!
I owned a BRZ, I traded it for a Kia Stinger. It was not for me but I appreciate it. The horsepower does get old on the highway. In the city it’s pretty fun.
10/10!!!!!!! I had a 2002 Celica GT 5 speed......which was only 140ish horsepower and front wheel drive.....and it was A BLAST to drive so I have no idea why anyone would be unhappy with 228 HP, rear wheel drive and another gear!!
I can't wait to see what TJ Hunt and his Streethunter brand has coming out soon for these!!!
Everyone is just making moves on them, excited to see what pops up in our gallery! -Edgar
Already bought a '17 Miata RF but I'll test drive the gr86 sometime to feel what the hype is all about
What’s all done to that bad boy?! Is it in our gallery? -Edgar 👀
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alex, the logo on the back isn't centered and the license plate design feature of the bumper is fugly
There's a whole intelligently and well explained video on why the BRZ doesn't need a turbo that's been out for a long time.
I’d give these a 9.8. These are really really good cars, I think they look really good, not to say that the previous gens looked bad what so ever I thought they also look very beautiful both in their own ways.They have have perfect interiors, good textures at certain touch points, not overdone, not a giant head unit up in the drivers field of view, no gimmicky haptic feedback buttons, available 6-speed, and I got to give Toyota and Subaru props for making a great car still with a stick and also this thing drive very very good according to journalists and a lot of pro drivers and car review TH-camrs. Great car
Back looks like a civic to me, can't get over it
I think the car is a masterpiece it’s refreshing to see somebody build A true sports car that is affordable you don’t need turbos and 600 hp to have fun like he said you need to learn the car and they look awesome slammed with rims omg the possibilities are endless with this car the key thing is it’s a affordable NA RWD sport car with a stick 🙏
Cheers to Engineering Explained. 👊🏼
It’s be dope if you could just walk up and buy or order one of these without paying $40k.
That would be the dream!.. but ya know. Supply and demand.. 🥲🥲 -Edgar
Gen 2 is definitely worth it
The only thing I don't like is the look of the GR, but nothing a body kit can't fix
I thought you were the kid from The Goldbergs lol. Good vid👍
One of the best decisions I made, came from a heavy old suv and this is night and day
Any plans for it or anything done so far? -Edgar