The Real Reason People Buy the G502X
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- Why did Logitech make the upgrade to the G502X, not even making it under the 100 gram mark. And if lighter is better, why didn’t Logitech just remove the extra buttons from the G502X to lighten it? That’s because it defeats the purpose of this type of gaming mouse.
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For a more Gaming focused Mouse, there is the Basilisk V3 Pro. With upgradability on the gaming side, a dock enabling 4000Hz polling rate. Check it out in the link below.
• The Basilisk V3 Pro is...
For a more Gaming focused Mouse, there is the Basilisk V3 Pro. It's as responsive as the G502X and is actually a lighter, but it is missing a couple of buttons. However if you need upgradability on the gaming side, it does have a dock that enables 4000Hz polling rate. I have a video on it, check it out in the link below.
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Also the razer mouse tracks at 750ips while the Logitech tracks at 450ips.
I was checking those 2 recently.. my friend keeps saying that razer products don't last that long like 1 year at most ...
@@direwensik2481 Only issue I had with razer is their software, their hardware should be fine as long as you don't drop it.
That was such a great review! A lot of times mouse reviews are done by people who only play FPS and they're all focused on super lightweight stuff, it's nice to see someone who can use it in non-gaming applications as well as gaming, while also showing what you do with all the different buttons. Super good review
Glad you enjoyed it!
yeah, these tech reviewers just assume youre only going to be using it for Valorant lmao. I love my G502 X lightspeed
People make fun of the g502 because it’s so heavy but it’s seriously not a bad mouse, I don’t use it and it’s certainly not for me but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use it if you like it. Heavy mice only feel like a brick once you get used to lighter mice. The G502 is fine
If you can’t move a mouse gaming is not for you
yeah, 84g is nothing compared to 100+g. I decided to get one after my modified g600 decided to die. I thought about getting the Corsair Scimitar, but decided to stay with Logitech. I use at least 5 of the buttons on my G600 daily so seeing it also have 5 buttons on the side made me pretty happy. I'm worried about the locations of the buttons when my mouse finally arrives.
The solution to my problem is either get two mice (one lightweight, one with a bunch of buttons on the side) or just go with the middle option that should do a good enough job.
Thanks for giving actual-use info as a daily-driver device, crossed out of 3 reviews prior to watching this one through becuase they were simply regurgitating the spec sheet from the box.
Thanks! It's part of why I made the channel, not that many reviews that produce their own use case for it other than "nice to have the extra buttons" or something to that effect.
Not everyone likes a light mouse. I like my mouse really heavy and many fans of the G502 also like heavier mice.
edit: also, heavier mice are helpful if your hands naturally shake a little or if you have trouble with accuracy -> it makes the movements more precise
Fair enough! Makes me wonder what the average sweet spot is for weight, not too light or heavy. I do think anything above 100 grams is too much. But I'll take 99.99 grams.
No the heavy mouse is simply harder to start moving
@@IrrationalDelusion yes and therefore shaky hands don't affect it as much
@@Stray0 It only makes stopping easier, while making it harder to move. Of course you want more movement for microcorrections instead of stopping after perfect moves. Because nobody makes absolutely perfect moves.
@@Enthusiast_Impressionsanywhere 40-60 for me
dang i though you had a few thousand subs well done well done
Not at the moment, but one day. Thanks for watching.
Thanks
Thanks, the whole reason I wanted to buy the 502X was the solved issue of the double click (microswitch failure). I already replaced in my current g502, but it seems to start happening again, and even though I do have another spare switch, I'm not too keen in opening it up again an repeat the operation. The fact that you mentioned the new switches as being a solution for the old problem, really helped me in deciding to get the 502X.
Awesome! Hope the new G502X is treating you well. Oddly enough my old original G502 lightspeed still hasn't exhibited any double clicking issues. And I used them for work & gaming extensively over 2 years. I might have gotten a lucky batch. But knowing me, it might just start happening now that I mention that it hasn't effected me yet.
This right here. I have a G604 and love repairs... Bought the switches, but after seeing videos of the hell it is to open this mouse, I decided to just get this mouse and a 3 year warranty for good measure. I'm not an avid gamer anymore near my mid 30s,but I work a lot remotely and edit tons of spreadsheets. The double clicking was driving me insane.
For me personally.. the weight of g502 is perfect. It helps keeping the mouse stable while clicking the side buttons during fps gaming sessions resulting in undisturbed aim.
In lighter mice I faced this problem a lot where I had to hold/grab the mouse real tight in order to keep my aim stable while clicking side buttons which gets quite tiring after sometime but with g502 I just hold it with a natural grip without even trying to exert any pressure at all and it just works.
Sliding the mouse is also very smooth and effortless thanks to its feet.
I am gonna be honest, this mouse has made me lazy.. 😂 I just let the mouse do the aiming while I only click the buttons. It's feels so natural to me now.
If it works better, it works better. Regardless of what the weight is. Why mess with a good thing? Will admit since I've been moving between different mice, it's definitely harder for me to recommend lighter mice for anyone why isn't a competitive gamer. Too many drawbacks in exchange of weight. But glad to know that the weight is actually a feature that helps with some peoples' aim, did not see it that way.
I have owned 2 g502s and both gave me the double-clicking issue. One of them I managed to get the switches changed and it comes back after a year.
Read around and gathered that Optical Switches should reduce the chance of this happening again so naturally, the G502x is perfect for me.
But after a few searches, on reddit, I found out that Logitech's own optical switches have a design flaw that would make it stop working entirely.
@kenchong69 I haven't had issues with my personal Logitech mice so far. Fingers crossed. But regardless of technology, nothing is truly perfect. Otherwise, there would be no need to improve or innovate. I've seen absolutely thrashed and grimy looking mice that have been in use for years, which still works fine. On the opposite side, I did have to return and exchange a few products because they didn't work out of the box.
If you like the shape of the g502 but are looking for alternatives then there's the basilisk lineup from razer. I'm pretty sure they use similar tech. But this is on the top of my head. It's always worth expanding experience from a single point simply to gain different experiences.
I’ve been using a G502 for gaming for several years now, and love being able to offload so many inputs onto my mouse hand.
Now I’m in the market for a wireless mouse, and while I’m tempted to try something new, the G502 is just so good to me, that I might just go with what I know I like.
Absolutely! If you liked the feel of the original G502 and it still works for you, no big reason to upgrade to the X version. Wireless can mean you have to remember charging the mouse, or you can just unplug it when playing games for a less tethered experience.
Solid review, I don't use the mouse for fast paced games like Apex(use my Wolverine Chroma V2) or OW as I have my DAV3 since I prefer a much lighter mouse for those kind of games. But I love it for Mobas/RPG games that aren't fast paced and I can really use the extra buttons for all the stuff going on in game.
Absolutely! I don't play a lot of MOBAs or RPGs these days, are there any particular actions you would bind to the extra mouse buttons?
@@Enthusiast_Impressions Inventory if it's an RPG, reload has always been on one of my side buttons lol. I was a long time console gamer so having reload (since I am always reloading lol) on M5 is a must for me. Interact for quicker access, just small stuff like that so I can keep my fingers on WASD as much as I can. Uhm map as well, just stuff that in RPG games are usually on keys out of reach since I don't tilt my keyboard too much. Now if it's an MMO I still have an old trusty Razer Naga Trinity for that but I don't play much MMO these days.
I like playing fps games, but when using light mice such as an Aerox 3, it was uncomfortable for me, and constantly would stretch further than my target because of the weight. But with the g502, it had much of a balanced weight to me, and it was easier to aim.
Yeah, there's a huge adjustment moving between different mice, I've gotten many comments that mentioned that heavy weight gives a steadier aim. I've fortunately gotten used to using a large variety in mice; Being a tech reviewer and all.
I used to have a G502 and have to say it's one of the best mice I have ever used.
Absolutely I can definitely agree to that.
Video quality is amazing and great detail. Looking forward to see where your channel goes! Keep up the great work!
Thank you, will do!
I just love the 2 buttons beside the left click, there is like no other mouse that have that
Yeah, there aren't any that have large buttons to the side of the primary clicks, making it easier to use. There's the Kone XP Air and Razer Death Adder V2 Hyperspeed with buttons in a similar position, they are however small.
nice video, no one explained the functionalities with examples like you did. Ty
Glad you found it helpful!
Ive used many logitech mouses the first one i ever used was the g602 aka my love howevee the feet started to get damaged and at the time i didnt know you could replace them, so i went onto the g304 hated how small it was so moved to the gpro mouse which was close to right but the wire messed with me then, i jumped to the superlight great mouse until double clicks kicked in and now im on rhe g502 the reason i didnt get the g502 for so long was because i was convinced it could not replace the g602 however i do feel it is a good replacement even if i miss the 3 other side buttons.
Oh yeah, the G602. Wish that had an update as well, it's basically an MMO mouse. Could use that for work honestly. Weirdly enough, even before I started testing out multiple mice I haven't had an issue with double clicking mice. Hopefully having multiple mice it's less likely to happen.
the big reason to go with the logitech mouse is the option to charge w out limits . ( powerplay ) mousepad.
That is one of the best ideas Logitech has ever made. Unfortunately it's not sold here in Canada. But honestly battery life is long enough without it, I even have the Ghub software change the polling rate to 500 when I'm not in games. doesn't extend it by much, but it's nice to know I don't quite have to charge as often.
You made some great points, but the real reason that I chose this mouse over any other, is the USB-C charging port, micro-USB is too much of an inconvenience these days IMO.
Then, of course, all the cool features that Logi has :p
Yup, everything moving to USB-C makes cable hunting so much easier. Plus the amount of people with micro-usb these days are slim to none. I do wish that features from logitech g-hub was available for all mice. But dreaming and complaining about it works just as well I suppose.
Good work on this vid. Thanks for the mouse tips Naka!
No problem!
Me personally Im not a fan of light mice. I mostly play competitive shooters, milsims and many other games. The G502 shape is fantastic for me and I prefer a heavier mouse. I was disapointed to find out the 502x is lighter than the 502 but I still prefer the size of the 502X
Shape is king, as Rocket Jump Ninja said. Shape can make a mouse feel effortless to use despite weight. I believe Lighter weight mice have a less noticeable impact to the user than shape. Despite what the math suggests. But I would have believed weight mattered more if I haven't tried out many gaming mice.
making mouse heavy is easy, glue some weights lol
fair. But I dont wanna take it apart right now as I would have to get new feet for it. Plus it wouldn't feel balanced then@@IrrationalDelusion
good review, thanks. bought two of these mice and both had intermittently working right and left mouse buttons, trash switches in them it seems. g502 lightspeed works for years without issues
My old G502 Lightspeed still works as well. Made a quick google search for people with switch issues with the new X version.
There are not many yet, given that it's been out a year. Some seem to be signal issues, others seem to be build issues. Maybe try putting the receiver closer to the mouse to see if it's signal issues.
Also, heavy mice aren't that bad on a hard pad with good glide. Soft pads have become more popular over the years but I find they are usually have much more friction. I think lighter mice started to come into style because of that.
That's probably true to an extent. I do have a G900 with ceramic feet that glides almost effortlessly on most of my cloth pads, and even faster with a speed hard pad. But from experience while it makes the mouse easier to move, it's also harder to stop, which is what the most competitive flick shooters don't want. Flick shooters which are much more prevalent, have a preference of quick start and stop to mouse movements. I don't play flick shooters a lot, probably why I don't find it much of an issue.
@@Enthusiast_Impressions True, some people can't handle too much glide. It is probably why weight tuning came into play. Even the original G502 had optional weights! It's funny how it blows people's minds that making a mouse heavier was ever a thing.
Why not use 2 keyboards and 2 mice for productivity and gaming?
Honestly don't quite get the question, but I'll interpret it as, "why not have 1 dedicated Mouse and keyboard set for each Productivity and Gaming?" In my opinion, most people would benefit more from the space savings, and the headspace of swapping from one set to another. While not worrying about if the tech they have is good enough. Worrying can make people think they need to buy better gear to be effective. But it's better to buy tech that doesn't limit you into only Gaming or only Productivity. Allowing you to stretch your skills in both directions, making people themselves better instead of only making the tech better.
i just want to rebind the G7 and G8 buttons to Volume Up and Down, but it refuses.
I was able to do it on my mouse, here's the instructions. After opening Logitech Ghub, select mouse, go to the Assignments page, System tab, scroll down to media, click and drag volume up or down to the desired button or description. When the stop turns back into a regular mouse that's when the button will change function. Otherwise if it doesn't work, do try updating or uninstalling and reinstalling ghub. If that doesn't work, check with logitech support.
@@Enthusiast_Impressions thanks for the instructions. sorry i should have made it a bit more clear. i'm using Logitech's Onboard Memory Manager because my other Logitech devices are still configured to use Logitech Gaming Software and i'm avoiding Ghub so i don't have to reconfigure everything again. maybe when i have to do a fresh install of windows 11, but i'm not there yet.
I'm playing this new game called Everquest 2 I needed some more buttons so I picked up two Chaos Refurbs off ebay for cheap. I already Had a G900 but these are G903s I never really liked the design of the G502 I had the early model and gave them away. The side buttons just were not for me with the Chaos I get smooth side buttons. But I'm looking at this G502X and you said the side buttons are better. Usually I try to play with a controller and the new Valari Pillow I have 5 of them but some games you still gotta use a mouse with. I think Ashes of Creation has controller support I'm happy for that anyway.
The G900 line is my favorite shape and main mouse I keep going back to. I even use almost all 4 side buttons. Unlike the gG500 lineup I can use the g-shift option while still having easy access to all the buttons using the g900 line. Now just hoping for a newer X version of the G900 to be developed.
Holy shit, a useful review in
Thanks, I try to keep things as short as possible while trying to say everything I believe is useful. However I always feel that I'm leaving things out that might be useful. Hopefully I'm able to add things in the future without too much fluff to keep things entertaining while keeping the ability to be concise.
have you seen any yellowing on the white mouse after a year?
No obvious discolouration so far, although it's closer to 6 to 8 months of use because I keep switching mice around. But it has been out of the box since I've got it over a year ago.
when pulsar releases their X3 mice later this year or next year, will you try them?
Most likely, But will depend on budget and time constraints.
You are criminally underrated, keep the consistency and you will rise someday king!❤
Yeah, hopefully someday!
Just the video that I need thank you!!!
No problem!
G502 X Plus can be charged with powerplay pad?
Yes, the plus version also can use the power play pad.
I can see a good future here
Much appreciated!
Are the clicks on the g502x as silent as those on the mx 3s?
Nope not at all, the MX 3S is specifically designed with clicks to be silent.
I used to make fun of my friends for using heavy mice, but I bought a Basilisk V3 Pro and absolutely love it.
Glad you're enjoying it! Definitely more to mice than just the weight.
I used to use the g502 back when they all came with wires. Now I've taken the opposite side of mice with a really light HSK pro from g-wolves. Honestly I'm curious to go back to that mouse and see how I feel. Don't think I'd do better, but I did love the mouse shape and the thumb grip shape felt really nice at the time. Only went towards the HSK out of curiosity lol, now being my new main.
The updated G502X is a much appreciated upgrade from the old design. Not too many changes in the general shape, but the feel is much better given the new material and texture choice in my opinion.
Does the logitech key mapping software work with android?
This is not something I have tried. Assuming the android device can pair with a mouse via usb, you can potentially use the on board memory.
Goddamn dude, slow down! LOL
Ty for the reviews btw :)
Glad you're able to get some information from the reviews. I do try to slow down in the newer videos, I watch everything in x2, even other creators. Makes it hard slowing down. But getting there... slowly.
I just switched from an MX Master to the new g502 x lightspeed and I’m really enjoying it tbh
That's awesome! Glad you're enjoying it!
Can i shift dpi switch button on thumb to shift key.
Yes, you can switch the function of every button, including left click. I have made that mistake, so I had to use another mouse to use left click.
@@Enthusiast_Impressions Thank You
G502x Wired is 89grams
It's definitely lighter, but I do not know what the wire of the G502X feels like. If it's like what it came with in the box, then it's not that bad, there is definitely better though.
The wird 502 is crap. Whot a crap cable
Less resistance cable.
Great video. But wow! You talk so fast!
Yes I do talk fast. But it's a combination of talking relatively fast and then editing out all my breaths from the video,that make it feel faster than it actually is. Haven't been seeing any success with the slower paced videos with some breaths, but that could just be the content.
Even with the best/lightest mice out there, I've still never liked the feel of any mouse compared to the G502 design. It's just way to heavy if you're competitive. I'd go back to it if they could somehow get it down to at least 70-75 grams.
If you don't lift the mouse often, you can use a combination of glass skates and a speed cloth pad or a hard speed pad and after market PTFE skates, to reduce the friction, therefore the amount of effort to move the mouse. It will have different characteristics compared to an actually lighter mouse, but it brings it closer to being a competitive mouse. Worth a shot if you haven't tried it.
gpx is a better mouse, g502x is a better keyboard
The GproX is a mouse that leans heavily into gaming, doing worse in its ability to handle both work and gaming tasks without switching. G502X on the other hand doesn't compromise features while retaining gaming viability. A mouse/tool is dependant on what you aim/goal to achieve, and if it makes it easier to achieve said aim/goal.
This thing went back to Bestbuy so fast lol. The scroll wheel in ratchet mode sounds loud, and feels cheep, and both ratchet mode and freespin hickup and scroll up if I was scroll down, or visa versa. POS mouse, waste of money.
Yeah, the ratchet is louder than most mice. I haven't had issues of the scroll direction inverting personally. Good to know that it's possible. You could check if issue remains with a replacement copy of the mouse. I always do, just in case.
@@Enthusiast_Impressions I took it back. Ended up with a Viper v3 Pro. This things amazing but 2x the price of the G502x.
soooooo did i miss the "REAL" reason people buy this mouse? or is it just a general review about the mouse
It's easy to miss as I spoke pretty fast. I mentioned it at the start of the Video "because it's one of the best mice for both productivity and gaming. Holding its own in fps gaming while being able to speed up tasks like editing or technical support." I then went into a general review of the mouse that helps explain the reasoning.
to light touche feal cheep ..lack of weights is a big minus for this light crap..g700 is superior offer with max 5000 dpi after 13 years
Does seem like a lot of people love heavy weight mice, me included. But I don't think that the G502 is too light either. Never used the G700 myself, but I wouldn't take DPI into account too much. I use 3900 DPI myself and lower sensitivity in game. I don't believe DPI or any specifications make a better mouse, it's more about what the mouse feels like to your subjective tastes and the features it offers on top of that. But damn, 13 years and still in working condition? That's got to be a record somewhere.