About the charging display: "... and I'm sorry: that's crap!" - Very well said! :D km per hour/minute is OK as an additional info, but not as the only one.
Km /hour is more informative and is the preferred way to compare cars. But on everyday use, as we pay per Kwh, that is the information we need. (that and charging time as that is a factor as well).
@@mikaelpettersson5916 km/hr makes sense from a non-technical user perspective (after all, what most people actually care about is how far they can travel, not what the machine is actually pumping out), but it needs to be accurate, and it needs to be consistent (no changing to km/min when charging quickly, etc). That said, I also agree with others that it should show what the charge rate is - as additional / alternate information, for those that prefer to see it that way, given that kW is - currently - the industry standard. It's fine for VW to think their approach is 'better', but they should include the industry standard option as well (especially as it's just a software display value - it's not like they have to provide extra hardware, etc)
@@logicalChimp totally agree. Tesla started this km chargingspeed displaything, so they are the one to blame. I do not say it is wrong, but i think many more is interested in knowing the speed in absolute value. It should be a setting If they cant display Both. And i think it Will. Vw Will swollow their Pride and make the change (they Will not comment on it)
But how should the car know if you are going on a short trip? How often do you enter "Grocery store, 3 km's drive" into the navigation? ;). And if there was a way for the user to turn the preheating off, everyone would do it to get more range, and then the battery would be constantly cold, not deliver the power it should and accept even less charge.
@@DennisWallman The simpler question is how often do you go on long trips with fast charging stops and need a warm battery. Regarding the performance: Heat the battery when in sport mode only.
Lane assist is great on the Autobahn when there is no construction... otherwise it needs to be turned off. A few years ago, I had a few Ford rental cars (Focus, Mondeo) and they had buttons on the steering wheel to disable lane assist, which was very useful to quickly disable the feature when I was going through construction zones. Leaving it on was dangerous! They really should give you the option to program a hot button on the steering wheel to any shortcut you would like. E.g. hold a button to activate/deactivate a feature. And non-illuminated climate and volume controls, completely unacceptable!
Not all lane assists are created equal. The one in my Volvo works really well on highways. Even when it can't track the lanes there is no particular reason to disable it. You just need to do the steering yourself until it can acquire the lane again. The only dangerous thing is to rely on it to the point where you aren't bothering to look.
Looks like FULLY autonomous driving still had a long way to go... like 20 years or so. Currently, I'd only trust an A.I. to do motorway stretches, where traffic is mostly predictable.
I hope VW is taking note, your reviews are very comprehensive, and it would be great PR for you to say after the update - all fixed. I know that MG updated their ZS from a reviewer videos - almost completely word for word.
at least most of them are software and I hope at the future they will be solved! I agree with the CHARGING SPEED! KW is the best... not km/h or per/m :(
This really isn't my experience at all. I have lane assist active all the time and so far it has worked absolutely flawless. Not a single mistake.... I'm really impressed about its accuracy.
My daily commute is mostly via country lanes, and Lane Assist is a bit of a joke under those circumstances. Oddly, it turns off sometimes then pops back on when circumstances haven't really improved for it.
They seem to be all minor things fixable via sw updates, except the lighting of the climate/vol. bar. I really hope that VW start improving on updates OTA as the way it is right now it’s way too complicate..
Like all good things in life...it'll get better with age! Well I hope so anyway. Thank you for doing this very honest and frank review for us. Take care and don't let the Bug Bite, ok!
I bought the id3 a month ago and it has the same problems. My version is not a 1st so I didn't get any discount on leasing but the same problems persist. Indeed I have found others. Now it is at the workshop for a second update. I have also a VW Polo 2018 and a T-Roc 2019 and and neither has ever experienced any problems.
The answer to many of these complaints, including the one that Mr. Ulbricht said they will not change, in _configurability._ For goodness' sake, this car, and any EV, is a computer on wheels! _Everything_ on the dashboard(s) and many other things should be user-configurable, with preferences tied to user profiles. Again, Tesla is better here, but they don't go far enough, either. Somewhere deep in configuration menus should be a "geek mode" toggle that would enable things from simple changing charging speed from nebulous "km/h" to actual power, to bringing up whole synoptic pages with battery, motor, electronics and coolant temperatures, power used by various components, acceleration, power and regen in actual power units (along with friction brakes application) etc, something like all those data displayed by various OBD II monitoring apps. Majority of "ordinary" users would still use the HMI as it is, and if they stumble into the geek mode it would be easy to get back to the safety of "factory configuration". But driving this car could be so much more fun if we were given an opportunity to see what is it actually doing.
For me a tesla is a software company building cars, and VW is a car company doing software. Up until now EV's were aimed at the "tech" aware people lead by Tesla, VW are trying to aim this at everybody, and not everybody understands KW they just want to know if I charge it for 30 minutes how far can I go, and for that km/h works fine. oh by the way it kills me not knowing more about the state of the battery, thinking about going down the OBD port route...
@@mark.j.wilson I agree. VW at least knows what belongs to buttons and stalks, and what to touch-screens, and their augmented reality HUD is awesome. The only reason I can think of why Tesla does not provide HUD is their pretending that full Level 5 autonomy is around the corner; that, and penny pinching. Still, more configurability, pretty please, Mr. Ulbricht!
@@EinzigfreierName _None_ would be confused by it if you hide it deeply enough. Call it "car internals service mode" or something similarly scary, if you must, or activate by a sequence of button presses or PIN code or whatever. But, let's face it, EVs are practically everywhere still cars for tech savvy, not because "ordinary" drivers wouldn't enjoy them, but simply because we tend to be early adopters. A singla competent GUI programmer could code the useful amount of features in several months. You know, those guys who elsewhere program fart mode. :o) Heck, make it a €1k software-enabled option, and I would buy it immediately (if I had location to charge the car in the first place, that is... :o( )
@@EinzigfreierName Considering how much VAG charges for digital cockpit views in the Audi models, there must be some way for them to both offer the option, while at the same time making a shitload of money while doing it.
Well said about lane assist. Nearly all my driving is on small Irish county roads, I need to be able to switch it off by default, I can on our new Zoe 135 GT with a button near the steering wheel. I think lane assist is dangerous & a pedestrian will be killed soon!
I totally agree with you when it comes to: 2. Always the question about Online or Offline mode, Error message about Internet Radio not being available, not selecting B-mode automatically if that was used last time, always have to switch of Lane assist. 4. The app with only a few features, never knowing if for example sending an address to the car will be received or not, sometimes it is received several hours later when. In my app it also sometimes show MIN instead of a temperature. 5. What were they thinking at VW when they decided to not have temp and volume slides illuminated? 1, 3, 6 & 7 has not bothered me that much yet, haven't done any long trips yet and have not used a DC-charger so far. But still I really like the car, if it get some descent sw-updates I think it can be really good!
In winter laneassist is a pain in the b-tt.Sometimes it think the snow is lines and suddenly warns and tries to steer the car right.I always keep it off
I see many complaints about lane assist, yet for me it's working absolutely flawless. Even now with heavy snow everywhere.... I'm truly impressed by how accurate it really is.
@@AlanTov That's exactly what I've seen with a test drive ID3 from my dealer. Also a 1st Edition. What car do you have? You get used in the end, but at first... you shit your pants once or twice. I have an ID3 coming now for me, I hope it's either fixed or I'll get used quickly.
when you go to the gas station you see how many liters you get, not kms, 'cause kms depends on how you drive. You're right: getting km/h when charging is crap.
Watching your back catalogue as we bought a used ID.3 1st 3 weeks ago. We had a terrible 12v battery drain causing expensive vamp drain on the main battery but at the moment a replacement 12v battery under warranty seems to have sorted this. Time will tell. The car screen shows that it is currently on version 2.3 software but VW insist that it is actually on 2.4. If the car cannot even show the correct software version I am uneasy about the quality of the software. I worked in IT at all levels from developer to programme manager over 25 years and such a simple error shows a significant lack of attention to detail. Worrying. My biggest bugbears at the moment are: 1: why does the radio come on every time we start the car and why is it always on a station that we have not chosen? 2: Why is it such a tedious and convoluted process to sign up to WeConnect for updates? The car should just be connected from day one, end of. Don't make life difficult for the customer. 3: What is that ridiculous captive nut sticking out for in the underfloor compartment of the boot? One day I will catch that and no doubt cut myself. Why VW, just why? 4: Why does it take so long for the rear view to cancel from the infotainment screen after reversing and as we are waiting to pull away or even actually moving? 5: Why can't I see or have a service and maintenance history? It's my car, I paid hard-earned cash to buy it outright. Don't get me wrong, we are very happy overall with the car but small annoyances become long-term issues. VW has been too disrespectful of it's customers in my opinion.
100% agree on that breaking issue. I nearly got panic at an intersection just lately. As well I agree on the kW vs km/min issue: we need the kW and kWh/100km and so on display, everything else is crap. I wonder what Mr. Ulbrich thinks of his yearly statement from his energy provider that states the used electrical energy in kWh! Everybody that gets one of these statements - and I assume most of us do - are familiar with kWh and kW (hair dryer, oven, electrical heater...) so why the heck km/min as an electrical energy measure??? Please VW: get this corrected!
The thing is you already see the estimated time till charge limit and the current range in km the car claims to have. Km/h is just too confusing because it will always be different values between charges and even within a charge so you cannot really calculate when you will be at a specific km range.
Some of that annoying things you mentioned I have also in my 2019 VW Polo: to 2) Like in your id3 the transmission mode is reset to D very time I start the car, even when the drive mode is in Eco. So every setting is set to eco, but not the transmission. I don't ordered Lane assist, but the Start-Stop-Automatic also resets. Fortuntatelly in my car that is still a physical button. Also the climate controls ar phyiscal so the computer can't reset it. to 6) The app only has 2 features that I can use: Vehicle States and Navigation. The state only worked once, the navigation stuff does work most of the time.
This is a must which a manufacturer has to provide. The car has to start like you get it from the dealer. A German think from the previous Era. Don't think they should continue this with software. Would be terrible user experience
Hm. I personally wouldn't ever want a car again without lane assist.... it takes some getting used to but it's an amazing feature and for me it makes driving a LOT safer....
@@kayz-art I cannot talk about the quality of the ID.3 lane assist - the one of the e-up (from mobileye) is awfully bad and sometimes dangerous. Only 4.00 km driven, lots of annoying false reactions, and one when it steered me towards a bicyclist I was passing. Perhaps you should sleep more and do not drive overtired.
@@Henning_Rech ? I never drive while being tired. I however do appreciate a car that thinks along. So far the lane assist of the Id.3 is absolutely flawless.
@@BatteryLife The slider buttons have infrared LEDs and infrared receivers in them (motion detectors, basically) to detect hand gestures in front of the screen. Maybe lights interfered with these motion detectors. Still, I would prefer illuminated buttons instead of hand gestures...
3. it also disconnects BT connection, i.e. if you just got shortly out of the car, many times it does not reconnect to the phone and continue playing music. (Ok, maybe not an issue if you always use the USB cable)
Thanks for making this video. Hopefully VW is listening and will fix the issues. I am in the US and have an ID.4 on order. Hopefully the bugs are worked out before I get my car delivered.
I drove the ID3 a couple of times and I really like the design and how it looks. I own a Kia eSoul since almost a year and I am really surprised that none of the complaints you’ve happen in my car. #1, I haven’t had any single reliability issue. Of course the car SW is not as ambitious as on ID3 and it doesn’t have OTA but is extremely reliable. #2, I think some problems are legal requirements so it happens on any car (like safety features always on) but climate and driving mode are always as I left it. #3 well that’s the problem of having a seamless keyless system. #4The UVO app doesn’t look as nice a the ID3 but what it matter the most it might have failed 5 out of 100 times but nothing to really complain about it. #5 take it or leave it, it’s been a controversial decision what Vw did. #6 regen works on cold weather as usual (sometimes less efficiently) but I does even at 100% SOC and the pedal feel is more than OK #7 I still don’t understand why they can’t show the standard kW when charging, it seems like German automakers want to make unique things (like BMW showing battery size in Amps/h) I don’t think this is sth to like about eSoul since it is a standard thing on 99% of EVs... polestar 2 and Volvo xc40 don’t have this and it’s crap.. I agree But the ID3 looks nice and some of the issues will be fixed eventually with updates, right?
You do know that you can press on the white lines in the picture ( currently lit in blue) and that allow you to turn off Lane Assist (then they turn white). I just about find my finger can find the line easier than trying to press that menu button.
Here's a trick for you, open the door push the brake pedal without sitting, the car will wake up and if you don't close the door while opening the garage or gate in my case you don't have to sit thru another restart.
I had also massive problems with the brakes, they got stuck almost every morning. The car was parked in a garage. And after few stronger brake situations at 140 on the autobahn, the braking distance was getting longer and longer with massive fading. That was also a reason, I canceled the order and I still drive my ICE Astra.
Same problem for years on we-connect on the e-Golf. They say their going to fix it. But still most days no contact. So pre-heating the VW way is to try with the app.... the go out to the car turn it on put the seatbelt on behind my back and then let it stay on.
@@BatteryLife In the seven weeks I've got mine I only got the preheating to work once! And I still don't know what magic made it possible. I can't even program any departure times to my car or the app.
Preheating works for me, just set your departure time with the climate set, then it's all good, it doesn't need we connect you can set it up in the car.
Programming Pre-heating in the car works, but remote start it from we connect is spotty at best. VW claims to have we connect and we connect ID on 2 separate server’s.
For the e-Golf I found out that when I sometimes lose contact with the car in the we-connect app I can open the glove-box and remove the SIM-card and re-insert it - then all of a sudden I have contact with the app again.
Chris, well toned list. I hope that they consider fixing your #7 similar to the Taycan. It also defaults to showing distance/time for charging but you can click on it and it will toggle to kW. That clicking/toggle works on the displays in the vehicle as well as in the app.
Well Chris, I would love to say that the Peugeot e-2008 was better, but it also has it flaws. Like a non functional smartphone app, steering assistant which cuts out mid corner without any warning. Appalling range in winter, a very slow infotainment system. Somehow you would think after all these years of experience with creating ice cars, they still mess up the eV models.
I agree with most of these! But I'd add an eighth - the "haptic" buttons on the steering wheel are prone to auto-repeating when you don't want them to, and generally having a poor "feel" to them.
on the Kia Niro, the automatic climate mode works really well. adjusts the fan, etc. also thinks that it sends the heat towards the window if there is ice on it. that one broke with the temperature. and it's a slider
Well, that's about all of my grievances with my ID.3 covered as well. Sadly, the issues with the Infotainment software haven't improved as of mid/late April 2021. Hopefully, VW will use the OTA update facilities very soon, because its pretty damn crappy in an otherwise really nice car.
Update: As of early June 2021, nothing has improved from the software. The app is almost hopeless. It never connects to the car 30 yards away, from my bedroom window in direct line of sight [comes up with error]. Although it knows the exact state of charge, even after parking the car for an entire weekend. Once again, this video is entirely accurate. So many flaws in an otherwise nice car.
Lots to agree on within your videos and we’re all hoping software can amend some issues. I had a scary experience in the snow recently when the car slammed on the brakes for no reason 😮 Travelling at around 19 mph, so a front assist error but thankfully no one crashed into me from behind. Told my local dealer and got a very disappointing response 🤷🏻♂️
Great video, very informative! I really like what VW did with the ID3 overall, but it's always very useful seeing the negative stuff too. Unbalanced brake pedal got to me the most. I've literally had nightmares of driving my car where suddenly the brake pedal would become non-responsive or too slow to respond, very similar to what you've described here... Sad to say it, but this seems to be the car from my nightmares lol!
regarding the interior, VW should have a look into the mokka-e. it looks much nicer with integrated screens and real buttons. that is my main critique beside the 160km/h limit. of course for some the 160 km/h is ok, but i demand at least 180 km/h. from the outside, especially the front, i like the id3 a lot. lets see what seat/cupra can do
Let me pile on with my pet peeve - the capacitive buttons. It is MUCH easier to accidentally activate a capacitive button than a mechanical one, and my most common mistakenly activated button are the „REAR“ button on the window controls (resulting in the rear window opening while I‘m desperately trying to get the front one down so I can put the parking ticket into the machine), and the reading light, which I manage to graze with my head when leaning down to get stuff out of the cupholder. Another one is the fact that unlike in the e-Golf, I have to turn the side mirror selector to „R“ every *** time I want the right side mirror to tilt down so that I can see the curb. In the e-Golf, you could just leave it on R forever, but the ID.3 forgets EVERYTHING after you turn it off.
For me there are a few things vw should offer. 1. Fix the software infotainment system, The volume, temperature need to be night illuminated,sure you can do it via the touch screen but that’s not the point, it’s a design oversight plain and simple. 2 interior seat fabric and side fabric needs more options , big skoda can offer a variety of options including full leatherette why can’t id3, I long for a light interior seat option from the golf 7.5 3. Window switches activating the rear windows if sometimes hit and mainly miss, please put the rear window switches back on 4. Give users the ability to disable auto start and auto off, like schehf says sometime you have to get out quickly for a moment Really we should have the ability to add pin to start as well as remember not to turn off unless button is pressed only 5. A proper kw rating added to the charge menu. Giving. Charge time info is useless , I want to know exactly how many kw I am added to the car but also a real time kw rating as when it drops to almost teen levels on recharging it’s time to unplug unless going overnight to 100 if you needed it. 6. Add a proper sunroof option , heck even add the glass roof to the 77kw tour, preferably without the touch controls would help it not look so dark, if the glass cannot be added then follow the enyaq and give us an optional normal sunroof 7. Better paint options, where are the greens, red , yellows etc , as much as I like the copper strip, I would rather have the ability to be all one colour instead of two tone black and dull colour. Give us the choice if Nissan can do it so can vw 8. The heat pump clearly has a production issue often makes a weird noise when running that is on more than 1 model I’ve seen with the option fitted , it’s clearly a problem as Nissan own system has no noise issue when in use 9. We need more regen options please give us a one peddle option stronger than b mode, this was one of the things liked about the egolf but was put off by range , this can be added via a software menu. That hopefully remembers your settings after turning off and locking 10 whether your a mini cab or long distance driver or even a winter tire driver, why can’t we get 18 in fitted from the factory on the 77kw, why do we have to buy another set just to drop to 18 in instead of 19 on 77kw , sometimes the dealers are kind but it should be offered whether 18 or 19 right away 11 now we are in winter I’ve noticed that the doors Finnish above the seal thus gets winter grime over your legs on exit and along the door edge along the back door please fix this 12 please please give us the option to disable the voice assistance hey Id , whether is the accent I don’t know but it just never gives the right answer unlike google, and please fix that blue tooth drop out in calls
We in the States get the Id.4 but I wish we also got the 3. I dont know why we dont as we love our Golfs and GTIs. Hopefully our cars get the software with out the bugs.
Hello,thanks for this video. Iam feel the same about the lane assist and first pressing proces before driving.same with the charging and kw/h info.but the brakes are All fine on me ID3.super will be to have a possibility to reduce traction control,this i dont like a LOT Good luck
Luckily I don’t have any issues here where I live for the Lane assist. The only issues I have on the original software is the airbag light and the seat heater comes on at 1 instead of 2 how I like it.
It has taken VW over a year to solve the software problems, and even now no one knows if the software will be 100% working. What is also clear is the VW dealers are also on a big learning curve. Not unusual, and these days most car dealers ( not just VW) have only one technical person to fix the issues.
The app doesn't work for the GTE either... unreliable piece of junk... and it was that experience with VW software that stops me considering an ID3 (at least, not for a couple more years, etc)
hi chris, um den laneassist auszuschalten kannst Du auch mit dem Finger auf die Fahrbahn tippen, um an den Button zu kommen. Ist zwar keine kürzere Variante, aber die linke Fahrbahn der Grafik ist leichter zu treffen. Dein Problem mit der Heizungseinstellung nach dem Vorheizen, ist auch meins. Ansonsten in allen Punkten dito.
Great job Chris really hope VW will watch this. The bizarre feature that the car shuts down when you your behind leaves the seat is not just annoying its bordering on dangerous. Some of us have kids and dogs. If you leave your seat the heat instantly stops working. The app to precondition is very unreliable. YES there is a feature to climitize directly but it does not work. Like never. So in a cold country your kids or animals in a driverless parked car will be cold or warm. Is this OK VW? My granddad's VW had no problems with this in the sixties. A Trabant in DDR would probably solve this task. You market this car as a family car. So VW please explain. To save juice is nice but to subject kids and animals to mother nature's whims. Over to you VW!
The heat does not stop while driving! Preheating works for me 90% of the time. For the case if Kids and Dogs parking, you should use. Keep climate on! Works perfect.
@@BatteryLife I wish it did I tried. It does not. Scheduling precond no can do. Lets hope the big update will solve this. VW should just have kept the on and off button and none of this would be an issue. Reputation wise for VW releasing an unfinished product albeit w discounts feels dodgy.
I genuinely want to buy an EV and the ID.3 really seems to be the right match for me. But I'm a software QA by profession and all the software issues would drive me absolutely insane. I really hope VW can get a handle of the situation. I also hope they do something to normalise the trim levels because they are really confusing and scattered. Getting the ID.4 interior in the ID.3 would be nice too...
The software does work now alot better the updates are OTA now and the car has alot of its software issue fixed. I've driven it about 800 miles and it's been a joy.
after driving around in a Golf mk8 for 7 months now. While I am used to it, making the dash so button-less was a mistake ( it is similar in interface with the ID.3, look it up if you are interested). While it is not that hard to use for me now, just a few more buttons for seat heating and fan speed would have been so much better. Also... WHY is the infotainment SO SLOW at the start. It feels like a PC from 15 years ago, when they had crazy "warm up" periods.
Yes I hope that this obsession with touch buttons and surfaces is gone in the next generation of cars. I get it for infotainment, but everything you need while driving should be physical!
@@manuelg8050 i am fine with the sliders btw. But the amount of buttons is too low. It doesn't need to become like a Kia or BMW with too many buttons, but it is just a bit silly now.
The obvious question has to be why did you buy it? There is much to be said regarding leasing a car of the type you intend to buy if you aren't 100% sure. There are leasing options out there now which allow you to lease on a monthly contract.....
had an eGolf for over 2 years now. I dont really trust VW to fix software bugs. I still have a tough time preheating the car with the phone app. This is an old car by now, should have it fixed. I realize that the ID line is the main focus but they could have fixed the software bugs years ago for eGolf. Next year I am moving to Tesla.
helpful observations. I have a ID4 on order in the US. I will have to check the dealer demo model for some of the items you have mentioned. to see if they have remove these in final version. thank you
Hopefully VW will become fast at listening to the drivers, testers to bring about fast improvements and continuous innovations. Tesla is amazing in that... I really like the VW id4 and hope that vw will fix most issues
That sounds like too many major problems for a production car....maybe for a beta version, but I'll be taking VW off of my list of EVs which I'll be buying this year
@@BatteryLife Yep, I had to go out and check, it shows 0.0 in mine too. VW is treating us as children, it is really insulting when they deny us the actual charging speed.
Volkswagen has done well to save battery. for fans can certainly draw a lot of power. and if the battery runs out to an id3 then maybe it will be bigger in consequence than when a 12 volt battery runs out in a regular petrol car
What annoys me the most is the software lack of one pedal driving that I was used to in the Model 3. It´s a must and the midway solution adopted lags drivers needs. Also i would love to have the ambient interior lights always on (even during the day) and I can't. No quality issues whatsoever ("my" rented old Model 3, had tons of problems and a serious repair issue),
Isn't the ambient light always on. I thought so. The regen being low has a reason. High regen on Rear wheel drive on slippery road can lead to unstable behaviour. VW is trying to be mord safe. Not more than 1,6 m/s2 decelleration.
Hopefully, VW now understands what a challenge it is to create good software. Microsoft for instance thought for years it could somehow muddle through with Windows Phone. Either you really focus on it, or you lose. The brake issue is even more disconcerting. A German car maker should know that sportiness is all about linearity. Acceleration should be smooth, but equally, a car must provide consistent feedback when you are braking if you want to drive fast elegantly.
Really good video Chris. My Golf R is 3 years old and time to change. Thinking maybe electric, maybe Elon... just can’t make up my mind. VW haven’t been very persuasive either. Videos like yours help :-)
From the comments nobody has a good app but Tesla! 😂 I can also confirm the Kia UVO (U.S. version) app is terrible and hardly works. And, they charge $15/mo 😅 But, I love turning on the heater in winter, when it works.
The last thing you hated about your car with charging speed is probably a game changer for me. It needs to show it in kW not anything else. Doesn't it also have that very weird efficiency thing with hours kWh that I seem to remember you & Bjorn showing us.
Seeing bad reviews last year for the new Golf on its lack of knobs, I went through a phase where I thought I'd better get a Golf 7 while you still could here in Australia. Then thought the better of it and kept my Golf 6 Wagon, thinking maybe wait for the ID3... Not after watching this, not that it will be here anytime soon - the Golf 8 is still "coming soon"... eventually... maybe... Perhaps I'll wait for Golf 8.5 when they put the knobs back in!
I don’t get why they don’t put the kW charging rate above the km/h (or km/minute) text. It would actually look very nice and symmetrical, just like the battery SoC is displayed on the bottom right side of the screen.
@@BatteryLife I drive an e-up, which has a similar characteristic, its brake starts slowly. But other than you I drive in D (non-B) mode - and BTW would recommend this to anyone outside stop and go traffic - and so it is very convenient to fine-dose your brake such that you mostly regenerate, while keeping the classical user interface with separate brake and acceleration pedals.
I feel it has to do with the drum brakes. I know exactly what you refer to and never felt it in an e-Golf. Of course it might be the configuration of how much the brakes are recruited, but at the speeds or rather braking speeds you describe the force should already be mostly on the brakes.
Good review. These limitations are way too much for me! On my ICE VW the climate selections are so easy to set and change plus are retained when I turn off the engine. Horrible.
Thank you for bringing all these problems up, I have the exact same issues. One more thing, I want to see how much % I have left on the battery when I drive, that means I have to have the "charging screen" viable at all time, extremely annoying. Would be nice if you can change the est. range left to % on the main dash.
The braking issue seems to be a bit more serious than the others complaints. It sounds like it is just doing regen braking when it's clearly time to go mechanical. You have me thinking about trying an emergency stop in my wife's Chevy Bolt. I do try to brake early and lightly in my plugin hybrid Hyundai Sonata so that I don't go to mechanical but I would like to be confident that I can stop quickly. Of course, there is always the issue of how heavy an EV is as well. Maybe the brakes are undersized on the ID.3 .
My number one nuisance of this car: if I walk close to the car it unlocks. Automatically. Brilliant!! However, if I walk away from the car it doesn't lock automatically. You need to press the handle for that.... Why on earth did Volkswagen think that would be practical?? Automatic unlocking and only manual locking of the car.... it has happened to me sooo many times the car remained unlocked. I'll make sure never to leave anything of any value in there, because this really is an issue for me.
I was surprised in the beginning too. But now I prefer it. So many times I walk away from a Zoe not paying attention and then I had to lock again to be sure.
@@BatteryLife I don't understand? My previous car did lock automatically when I left it. It's very simple technology, so it never failed me. My ID.3 however has remained unlocked overnight dozens of times already... it's terribly impractical! If there's one thing I could change about the car (besides the obvious software bugs) this would be it.
Your item 3 is only a problem because of item 2. If VW can fix item 2, such that the car turns itself on quickly to your last-used settings, then it should be no problem with it turning off automatically. Otherwise, you would have to remember to turn it off. A Tesla turns off too, but it is back on to the last configuration instantly when you get back in.
@@BatteryLife Im already on the list for a Model 3 SP. After the price cut it will cost me about 34k after incentives. Thats a very good price for what you actually get ;) This will be my first electric car... ill keep you updated how I like it. A good friend of mine got his Model 3 Performance a month ago and let me tell you it is a real blast to drive. Not comparable to anything I have sat in till that day and being from Munich I have been in several BMW M Models. 👍🏽 Ich gehe mal davon aus, dass du auch Deutscher bist. Habe die Antwort jetzt trotzdem mal vorsichtshalber auf Englisch geschrieben, da das ja auch deine bevorzugte Sprache auf deinem Kanal ist. Schöne Grüße aus München 👍🏽
@@kevinschauwaers5585 I think you misunderstood what I wrote, please read again :) I wrote that I am getting a Model 3 SP (Standard Plus) wich is 39.990€ after the price cut in Germany and we get 6.000€ in government incentives. So it will cost me around 34k I was just referring to a good friend of mine who has a Model 3 Performance wich is a blast to drive :) Have a nice day Kevin and stay safe 👍🏽
Thank you for these points. I am disappointed of VW as major German car maker to have their product ripen at the customer. It’s the trend I. The 21st century to do this with anything that’s electronic. Only a few companies take their time and try deploy a complete product rather than an early incomplete one.
It's funny how different things matter to different people. Agree about lane assist, most annoying although I believe it's not VW's choice but legislation? The other things you highlight don't bother me so much (I've had my id3 for three months but do far less driving than you) My previous car, the BMW i3, is inferior in some ways (stability and interior room for instance) but trumps the id3 with it's regen braking (which gives you genuine 1 pedal driving) and the idrive which I really miss (The 'iPad' controls on the VW feel like they've been designed by a fourteen year old tech wizard who's never driven a car). The other thing that annoys me is that there is no visible trip meter (unless of course I've missed something which is quite possible.)
VW needs o fix all these points, great video! Send it to Herbert Diess. The really need to show kw at charging speed, it drives me crazy and makes me want to change car just because of that!
The most annoying thing I've found is that there is no trim above the accelerator pedal and when I go to accelerate my shoe sometimes catches, which is dangerous when trying to accelerate away at busy junctions.
@@BatteryLife possibly too bigger feet ha, if it has shielding like the egolf it wouldn't be an issue, it's an odd one, I might have to retrofit something to stop it from happening
I agree with all of your issues, I have them with my ID3. Please VW listen and fix these issues ASAP. Well done Chris.
About the charging display: "... and I'm sorry: that's crap!" - Very well said! :D km per hour/minute is OK as an additional info, but not as the only one.
True that!
Spot in! Let user decide. Show Km/hour or kWh or maybe both?
Km /hour is more informative and is the preferred way to compare cars. But on everyday use, as we pay per Kwh, that is the information we need. (that and charging time as that is a factor as well).
@@mikaelpettersson5916 km/hr makes sense from a non-technical user perspective (after all, what most people actually care about is how far they can travel, not what the machine is actually pumping out), but it needs to be accurate, and it needs to be consistent (no changing to km/min when charging quickly, etc).
That said, I also agree with others that it should show what the charge rate is - as additional / alternate information, for those that prefer to see it that way, given that kW is - currently - the industry standard. It's fine for VW to think their approach is 'better', but they should include the industry standard option as well (especially as it's just a software display value - it's not like they have to provide extra hardware, etc)
@@logicalChimp totally agree. Tesla started this km chargingspeed displaything, so they are the one to blame. I do not say it is wrong, but i think many more is interested in knowing the speed in absolute value.
It should be a setting If they cant display Both.
And i think it Will. Vw Will swollow their Pride and make the change (they Will not comment on it)
I agree + 8. Battery heater for short trips should be disabled
But how should the car know if you are going on a short trip? How often do you enter "Grocery store, 3 km's drive" into the navigation? ;). And if there was a way for the user to turn the preheating off, everyone would do it to get more range, and then the battery would be constantly cold, not deliver the power it should and accept even less charge.
@@DennisWallman The simpler question is how often do you go on long trips with fast charging stops and need a warm battery. Regarding the performance: Heat the battery when in sport mode only.
Auf jeden Fall!
I agree regarding all 8 Topics especially topic 8 battery Heating and the App I still have SW 564 a car with Potential but l am Not satisfied
We should get a button in order to preheat the battery. We decide if we will drive sporty, if we want to charge or simply to drive slowly.
Good job Chris, another great and honest video from you. Loved it!
Lane assist is great on the Autobahn when there is no construction... otherwise it needs to be turned off. A few years ago, I had a few Ford rental cars (Focus, Mondeo) and they had buttons on the steering wheel to disable lane assist, which was very useful to quickly disable the feature when I was going through construction zones. Leaving it on was dangerous! They really should give you the option to program a hot button on the steering wheel to any shortcut you would like. E.g. hold a button to activate/deactivate a feature. And non-illuminated climate and volume controls, completely unacceptable!
Not all lane assists are created equal. The one in my Volvo works really well on highways. Even when it can't track the lanes there is no particular reason to disable it. You just need to do the steering yourself until it can acquire the lane again. The only dangerous thing is to rely on it to the point where you aren't bothering to look.
Looks like FULLY autonomous driving still had a long way to go... like 20 years or so. Currently, I'd only trust an A.I. to do motorway stretches, where traffic is mostly predictable.
@@pHD77 Lazy
Chris, good of you to be critical as we all want VW and EVs to be successful.
I hope VW is taking note, your reviews are very comprehensive, and it would be great PR for you to say after the update - all fixed.
I know that MG updated their ZS from a reviewer videos - almost completely word for word.
at least most of them are software and I hope at the future they will be solved!
I agree with the CHARGING SPEED! KW is the best... not km/h or per/m :(
Trusting VW with software updates over time.. wouldn't hold my breath.
Thank Chris. I hope VW is listening.
I completly agree, for me the worst is the "lane assist" that go nuts almost every trip and try to push me out of the lane...
This really isn't my experience at all. I have lane assist active all the time and so far it has worked absolutely flawless. Not a single mistake.... I'm really impressed about its accuracy.
My daily commute is mostly via country lanes, and Lane Assist is a bit of a joke under those circumstances. Oddly, it turns off sometimes then pops back on when circumstances haven't really improved for it.
They seem to be all minor things fixable via sw updates, except the lighting of the climate/vol. bar. I really hope that VW start improving on updates OTA as the way it is right now it’s way too complicate..
Like all good things in life...it'll get better with age!
Well I hope so anyway.
Thank you for doing this very honest and frank review for us.
Take care and don't let the Bug Bite, ok!
Glad your car is PA_ID and not stolen. Love your videos. THX!
I bought the id3 a month ago and it has the same problems. My version is not a 1st so I didn't get any discount on leasing but the same problems persist. Indeed I have found others. Now it is at the workshop for a second update.
I have also a VW Polo 2018 and a T-Roc 2019 and and neither has ever experienced any problems.
But you don't have to wait to long for the Id Software update ;)
The answer to many of these complaints, including the one that Mr. Ulbricht said they will not change, in _configurability._ For goodness' sake, this car, and any EV, is a computer on wheels! _Everything_ on the dashboard(s) and many other things should be user-configurable, with preferences tied to user profiles. Again, Tesla is better here, but they don't go far enough, either.
Somewhere deep in configuration menus should be a "geek mode" toggle that would enable things from simple changing charging speed from nebulous "km/h" to actual power, to bringing up whole synoptic pages with battery, motor, electronics and coolant temperatures, power used by various components, acceleration, power and regen in actual power units (along with friction brakes application) etc, something like all those data displayed by various OBD II monitoring apps.
Majority of "ordinary" users would still use the HMI as it is, and if they stumble into the geek mode it would be easy to get back to the safety of "factory configuration". But driving this car could be so much more fun if we were given an opportunity to see what is it actually doing.
For me a tesla is a software company building cars, and VW is a car company doing software. Up until now EV's were aimed at the "tech" aware people lead by Tesla, VW are trying to aim this at everybody, and not everybody understands KW they just want to know if I charge it for 30 minutes how far can I go, and for that km/h works fine. oh by the way it kills me not knowing more about the state of the battery, thinking about going down the OBD port route...
@@mark.j.wilson I agree. VW at least knows what belongs to buttons and stalks, and what to touch-screens, and their augmented reality HUD is awesome. The only reason I can think of why Tesla does not provide HUD is their pretending that full Level 5 autonomy is around the corner; that, and penny pinching.
Still, more configurability, pretty please, Mr. Ulbricht!
Tesla shows both kW and km/h when charging, but I 100% agree that they should have a geek mode🤓
@@EinzigfreierName _None_ would be confused by it if you hide it deeply enough. Call it "car internals service mode" or something similarly scary, if you must, or activate by a sequence of button presses or PIN code or whatever.
But, let's face it, EVs are practically everywhere still cars for tech savvy, not because "ordinary" drivers wouldn't enjoy them, but simply because we tend to be early adopters. A singla competent GUI programmer could code the useful amount of features in several months. You know, those guys who elsewhere program fart mode. :o)
Heck, make it a €1k software-enabled option, and I would buy it immediately (if I had location to charge the car in the first place, that is... :o( )
@@EinzigfreierName Considering how much VAG charges for digital cockpit views in the Audi models, there must be some way for them to both offer the option, while at the same time making a shitload of money while doing it.
Very useful information. Just bought this car today. Found it quite complicated at 68 years old I need a break from complications
Well said about lane assist. Nearly all my driving is on small Irish county roads, I need to be able to switch it off by default, I can on our new Zoe 135 GT with a button near the steering wheel. I think lane assist is dangerous & a pedestrian will be killed soon!
I totally agree with you when it comes to:
2. Always the question about Online or Offline mode, Error message about Internet Radio not being available, not selecting B-mode automatically if that was used last time, always have to switch of Lane assist.
4. The app with only a few features, never knowing if for example sending an address to the car will be received or not, sometimes it is received several hours later when. In my app it also sometimes show MIN instead of a temperature.
5. What were they thinking at VW when they decided to not have temp and volume slides illuminated?
1, 3, 6 & 7 has not bothered me that much yet, haven't done any long trips yet and have not used a DC-charger so far.
But still I really like the car, if it get some descent sw-updates I think it can be really good!
Glad that you only have minor issues with the car. I am looking forward to the ID.4!
In winter laneassist is a pain in the b-tt.Sometimes it think the snow is lines and suddenly warns and tries to steer the car right.I always keep it off
I see many complaints about lane assist, yet for me it's working absolutely flawless. Even now with heavy snow everywhere.... I'm truly impressed by how accurate it really is.
Most of that was software issues but the difference between braking a little and little more is pressing a lot harder is a scary problem.
@@AlanTov That's exactly what I've seen with a test drive ID3 from my dealer. Also a 1st Edition. What car do you have? You get used in the end, but at first... you shit your pants once or twice. I have an ID3 coming now for me, I hope it's either fixed or I'll get used quickly.
I thought it might be the disc brakes aren't up to stopping the heavy battery. I experience the same 'I'm not stopping' feeling (ID3 tour)
It looks very cold during your filming. Another great analysis. Thank you.
when you go to the gas station you see how many liters you get, not kms, 'cause kms depends on how you drive. You're right: getting km/h when charging is crap.
Watching your back catalogue as we bought a used ID.3 1st 3 weeks ago. We had a terrible 12v battery drain causing expensive vamp drain on the main battery but at the moment a replacement 12v battery under warranty seems to have sorted this. Time will tell.
The car screen shows that it is currently on version 2.3 software but VW insist that it is actually on 2.4. If the car cannot even show the correct software version I am uneasy about the quality of the software. I worked in IT at all levels from developer to programme manager over 25 years and such a simple error shows a significant lack of attention to detail. Worrying.
My biggest bugbears at the moment are:
1: why does the radio come on every time we start the car and why is it always on a station that we have not chosen?
2: Why is it such a tedious and convoluted process to sign up to WeConnect for updates? The car should just be connected from day one, end of. Don't make life difficult for the customer.
3: What is that ridiculous captive nut sticking out for in the underfloor compartment of the boot? One day I will catch that and no doubt cut myself. Why VW, just why?
4: Why does it take so long for the rear view to cancel from the infotainment screen after reversing and as we are waiting to pull away or even actually moving?
5: Why can't I see or have a service and maintenance history? It's my car, I paid hard-earned cash to buy it outright.
Don't get me wrong, we are very happy overall with the car but small annoyances become long-term issues.
VW has been too disrespectful of it's customers in my opinion.
Thx for all your videos. They made me order the ID4 1st Max (Needed the family size). Will be delivered and handed to me 1st of May.
Thank you for being honest :). That´s the problem of being a pioneer, you suffer early issues. Be patient.
100% agree on that breaking issue. I nearly got panic at an intersection just lately. As well I agree on the kW vs km/min issue: we need the kW and kWh/100km and so on display, everything else is crap. I wonder what Mr. Ulbrich thinks of his yearly statement from his energy provider that states the used electrical energy in kWh! Everybody that gets one of these statements - and I assume most of us do - are familiar with kWh and kW (hair dryer, oven, electrical heater...) so why the heck km/min as an electrical energy measure??? Please VW: get this corrected!
The thing is you already see the estimated time till charge limit and the current range in km the car claims to have. Km/h is just too confusing because it will always be different values between charges and even within a charge so you cannot really calculate when you will be at a specific km range.
Some of that annoying things you mentioned I have also in my 2019 VW Polo:
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Like in your id3 the transmission mode is reset to D very time I start the car, even when the drive mode is in Eco. So every setting is set to eco, but not the transmission.
I don't ordered Lane assist, but the Start-Stop-Automatic also resets. Fortuntatelly in my car that is still a physical button. Also the climate controls ar phyiscal so the computer can't reset it.
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The app only has 2 features that I can use: Vehicle States and Navigation. The state only worked once, the navigation stuff does work most of the time.
This is a must which a manufacturer has to provide. The car has to start like you get it from the dealer. A German think from the previous Era. Don't think they should continue this with software. Would be terrible user experience
11k subscribers only, hm your videos are informative you should be getting more subs for sure 👍
Agreed ;)
Naaaah....Chris is more for quality rather than quantity...just look at his criticism of the car... :)
They have to change the lane assist feature being on in your profile. Lane assist is dangerous and not helpful for me. My wife finds it scary.
Hm. I personally wouldn't ever want a car again without lane assist.... it takes some getting used to but it's an amazing feature and for me it makes driving a LOT safer....
@@kayz-art I cannot talk about the quality of the ID.3 lane assist - the one of the e-up (from mobileye) is awfully bad and sometimes dangerous. Only 4.00 km driven, lots of annoying false reactions, and one when it steered me towards a bicyclist I was passing.
Perhaps you should sleep more and do not drive overtired.
@@Henning_Rech ? I never drive while being tired. I however do appreciate a car that thinks along. So far the lane assist of the Id.3 is absolutely flawless.
I really can‘t believe they forgot to illuminate the slider buttons. Annoying.
They did it on purpose, I just don't know why.
@@BatteryLife The slider buttons have infrared LEDs and infrared receivers in them (motion detectors, basically) to detect hand gestures in front of the screen. Maybe lights interfered with these motion detectors. Still, I would prefer illuminated buttons instead of hand gestures...
3. it also disconnects BT connection, i.e. if you just got shortly out of the car, many times it does not reconnect to the phone and continue playing music. (Ok, maybe not an issue if you always use the USB cable)
I am using Android Auto. But when I was using bluetooth, it reconnect every time. Never a problem.
Thanks for making this video. Hopefully VW is listening and will fix the issues. I am in the US and have an ID.4 on order. Hopefully the bugs are worked out before I get my car delivered.
How are you getting on with your ID4? Deliberating at the moment as to which one to get.
@@clairefletcher573 Cancelled my order and bought a Tesla Model Y. Couldn't be happier!
Thanks for the video take care and safe travels
I drove the ID3 a couple of times and I really like the design and how it looks. I own a Kia eSoul since almost a year and I am really surprised that none of the complaints you’ve happen in my car. #1, I haven’t had any single reliability issue. Of course the car SW is not as ambitious as on ID3 and it doesn’t have OTA but is extremely reliable.
#2, I think some problems are legal requirements so it happens on any car (like safety features always on) but climate and driving mode are always as I left it.
#3 well that’s the problem of having a seamless keyless system.
#4The UVO app doesn’t look as nice a the ID3 but what it matter the most it might have failed 5 out of 100 times but nothing to really complain about it.
#5 take it or leave it, it’s been a controversial decision what Vw did.
#6 regen works on cold weather as usual (sometimes less efficiently) but I does even at 100% SOC and the pedal feel is more than OK
#7 I still don’t understand why they can’t show the standard kW when charging, it seems like German automakers want to make unique things (like BMW showing battery size in Amps/h) I don’t think this is sth to like about eSoul since it is a standard thing on 99% of EVs... polestar 2 and Volvo xc40 don’t have this and it’s crap.. I agree
But the ID3 looks nice and some of the issues will be fixed eventually with updates, right?
It drives awesome. Software will get better for sure.
Thanks, nothing to get me out of my Niro, it works perfectly 👍
You should watch the "what I like" video as well!
Thank you for the review. I think I'll hang onto my 15 year old Toyota for another 5 years.
I believe keeping the seatbelt buckled when you exit the car lets you circumvent the car turning off. IIRC
I think so. There is a button to keep heat on when charging too. But it is annoying to do something before you get out of the car.
The lane assist is also the first thing I turn off. Most of the times it’s super annoying or dangerous because it steers into other cars or cyclists.
You do know that you can press on the white lines in the picture ( currently lit in blue) and that allow you to turn off Lane Assist (then they turn white). I just about find my finger can find the line easier than trying to press that menu button.
@@vinceasmith yes. I wonder if there’s some way or “hack” to turn it permanently off.
Here's a trick for you, open the door push the brake pedal without sitting, the car will wake up and if you don't close the door while opening the garage or gate in my case you don't have to sit thru another restart.
Leaving the door open is a hazard. You shouldn’t do that!
I had also massive problems with the brakes, they got stuck almost every morning. The car was parked in a garage.
And after few stronger brake situations at 140 on the autobahn, the braking distance was getting longer and longer with massive fading.
That was also a reason, I canceled the order and I still drive my ICE Astra.
Same problem for years on we-connect on the e-Golf. They say their going to fix it. But still most days no contact. So pre-heating the VW way is to try with the app.... the go out to the car turn it on put the seatbelt on behind my back and then let it stay on.
The programmed Preheating works all the time though.
@@BatteryLife In the seven weeks I've got mine I only got the preheating to work once! And I still don't know what magic made it possible.
I can't even program any departure times to my car or the app.
Preheating works for me, just set your departure time with the climate set, then it's all good, it doesn't need we connect you can set it up in the car.
Programming Pre-heating in the car works, but remote start it from we connect is spotty at best. VW claims to have we connect and we connect ID on 2 separate server’s.
For the e-Golf I found out that when I sometimes lose contact with the car in the we-connect app I can open the glove-box and remove the SIM-card and re-insert it - then all of a sudden I have contact with the app again.
Chris, well toned list. I hope that they consider fixing your #7 similar to the Taycan. It also defaults to showing distance/time for charging but you can click on it and it will toggle to kW. That clicking/toggle works on the displays in the vehicle as well as in the app.
It could be so easy...but this would be too easy. 😂
Well Chris, I would love to say that the Peugeot e-2008 was better, but it also has it flaws. Like a non functional smartphone app, steering assistant which cuts out mid corner without any warning. Appalling range in winter, a very slow infotainment system. Somehow you would think after all these years of experience with creating ice cars, they still mess up the eV models.
I agree with most of these! But I'd add an eighth - the "haptic" buttons on the steering wheel are prone to auto-repeating when you don't want them to, and generally having a poor "feel" to them.
Don't have any problems with it.
on the Kia Niro, the automatic climate mode works really well. adjusts the fan, etc. also thinks that it sends the heat towards the window if there is ice on it. that one broke with the temperature. and it's a slider
Well, that's about all of my grievances with my ID.3 covered as well. Sadly, the issues with the Infotainment software haven't improved as of mid/late April 2021. Hopefully, VW will use the OTA update facilities very soon, because its pretty damn crappy in an otherwise really nice car.
Update: As of early June 2021, nothing has improved from the software. The app is almost hopeless. It never connects to the car 30 yards away, from my bedroom window in direct line of sight [comes up with error]. Although it knows the exact state of charge, even after parking the car for an entire weekend. Once again, this video is entirely accurate. So many flaws in an otherwise nice car.
Lots to agree on within your videos and we’re all hoping software can amend some issues. I had a scary experience in the snow recently when the car slammed on the brakes for no reason 😮 Travelling at around 19 mph, so a front assist error but thankfully no one crashed into me from behind. Told my local dealer and got a very disappointing response 🤷🏻♂️
Great video, very informative!
I really like what VW did with the ID3 overall, but it's always very useful seeing the negative stuff too.
Unbalanced brake pedal got to me the most. I've literally had nightmares of driving my car where suddenly the brake pedal would become non-responsive or too slow to respond, very similar to what you've described here... Sad to say it, but this seems to be the car from my nightmares lol!
regarding the interior, VW should have a look into the mokka-e. it looks much nicer with integrated screens and real buttons. that is my main critique beside the 160km/h limit.
of course for some the 160 km/h is ok, but i demand at least 180 km/h.
from the outside, especially the front, i like the id3 a lot.
lets see what seat/cupra can do
Let me pile on with my pet peeve - the capacitive buttons. It is MUCH easier to accidentally activate a capacitive button than a mechanical one, and my most common mistakenly activated button are the „REAR“ button on the window controls (resulting in the rear window opening while I‘m desperately trying to get the front one down so I can put the parking ticket into the machine), and the reading light, which I manage to graze with my head when leaning down to get stuff out of the cupholder. Another one is the fact that unlike in the e-Golf, I have to turn the side mirror selector to „R“ every *** time I want the right side mirror to tilt down so that I can see the curb. In the e-Golf, you could just leave it on R forever, but the ID.3 forgets EVERYTHING after you turn it off.
For me there are a few things vw should offer.
1. Fix the software infotainment system, The volume, temperature need to be night illuminated,sure you can do it via the touch screen but that’s not the point, it’s a design oversight plain and simple.
2 interior seat fabric and side fabric needs more options , big skoda can offer a variety of options including full leatherette why can’t id3, I long for a light interior seat option from the golf 7.5
3. Window switches activating the rear windows if sometimes hit and mainly miss, please put the rear window switches back on
4. Give users the ability to disable auto start and auto off, like schehf says sometime you have to get out quickly for a moment Really we should have the ability to add pin to start as well as remember not to turn off unless button is pressed only
5. A proper kw rating added to the charge menu. Giving. Charge time info is useless , I want to know exactly how many kw I am added to the car but also a real time kw rating as when it drops to almost teen levels on recharging it’s time to unplug unless going overnight to 100 if you needed it.
6. Add a proper sunroof option , heck even add the glass roof to the 77kw tour, preferably without the touch controls would help it not look so dark, if the glass cannot be added then follow the enyaq and give us an optional normal sunroof
7. Better paint options, where are the greens, red , yellows etc , as much as I like the copper strip, I would rather have the ability to be all one colour instead of two tone black and dull colour. Give us the choice if Nissan can do it so can vw
8. The heat pump clearly has a production issue often makes a weird noise when running that is on more than 1 model I’ve seen with the option fitted , it’s clearly a problem as Nissan own system has no noise issue when in use
9. We need more regen options please give us a one peddle option stronger than b mode, this was one of the things liked about the egolf but was put off by range , this can be added via a software menu. That hopefully remembers your settings after turning off and locking
10 whether your a mini cab or long distance driver or even a winter tire driver, why can’t we get 18 in fitted from the factory on the 77kw, why do we have to buy another set just to drop to 18 in instead of 19 on 77kw , sometimes the dealers are kind but it should be offered whether 18 or 19 right away
11 now we are in winter I’ve noticed that the doors Finnish above the seal thus gets winter grime over your legs on exit and along the door edge along the back door please fix this
12 please please give us the option to disable the voice assistance hey Id , whether is the accent I don’t know but it just never gives the right answer unlike google, and please fix that blue tooth drop out in calls
We in the States get the Id.4 but I wish we also got the 3. I dont know why we dont as we love our Golfs and GTIs. Hopefully our cars get the software with out the bugs.
Hello,thanks for this video.
Iam feel the same about the lane assist and first pressing proces before driving.same with the charging and kw/h info.but the brakes are All fine on me ID3.super will be to have a possibility to reduce traction control,this i dont like a LOT
Good luck
Luckily I don’t have any issues here where I live for the Lane assist. The only issues I have on the original software is the airbag light and the seat heater comes on at 1 instead of 2 how I like it.
It has taken VW over a year to solve the software problems, and even now no one knows if the software will be 100% working. What is also clear is the VW dealers are also on a big learning curve. Not unusual, and these days most car dealers ( not just VW) have only one technical person to fix the issues.
Used to have an E-Golf. The app almost never worked. I stopped using it. Let's hope VW get it right this time!!
The app doesn't work for the GTE either... unreliable piece of junk... and it was that experience with VW software that stops me considering an ID3 (at least, not for a couple more years, etc)
Most of these things, if not all, are fixable with SW. This is the EV I would really like to have. (since I never will be able to have a Taycan xD)
I can understand why you hate those stuffs and I can tell you that I would hate my car, so you are very patient.
hi chris, um den laneassist auszuschalten kannst Du auch mit dem Finger auf die Fahrbahn tippen, um an den Button zu kommen. Ist zwar keine kürzere Variante, aber die linke Fahrbahn der Grafik ist leichter zu treffen. Dein Problem mit der Heizungseinstellung nach dem Vorheizen, ist auch meins. Ansonsten in allen Punkten dito.
FYI: ME 2.1 arrives (in Finland) on 4th of March. Already got a call from my VW dealer and my ID.3 1st Plus will be updated on 11.3.
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Great job Chris really hope VW will watch this. The bizarre feature that the car shuts down when you your behind leaves the seat is not just annoying its bordering on dangerous. Some of us have kids and dogs. If you leave your seat the heat instantly stops working. The app to precondition is very unreliable. YES there is a feature to climitize directly but it does not work. Like never. So in a cold country your kids or animals in a driverless parked car will be cold or warm. Is this OK VW? My granddad's VW had no problems with this in the sixties. A Trabant in DDR would probably solve this task. You market this car as a family car.
So VW please explain. To save juice is nice but to subject kids and animals to mother nature's whims. Over to you VW!
The heat does not stop while driving!
Preheating works for me 90% of the time.
For the case if Kids and Dogs parking,
you should use. Keep climate on!
Works perfect.
@@BatteryLife I wish it did I tried. It does not. Scheduling precond no can do. Lets hope the big update will solve this. VW should just have kept the on and off button and none of this would be an issue. Reputation wise for VW releasing an unfinished product albeit w discounts feels dodgy.
I genuinely want to buy an EV and the ID.3 really seems to be the right match for me. But I'm a software QA by profession and all the software issues would drive me absolutely insane. I really hope VW can get a handle of the situation. I also hope they do something to normalise the trim levels because they are really confusing and scattered. Getting the ID.4 interior in the ID.3 would be nice too...
Software is mostly fixed with latest update.
The software does work now alot better the updates are OTA now and the car has alot of its software issue fixed. I've driven it about 800 miles and it's been a joy.
Nice car though. It should remember your settings I would expect. The breaking needs looking into.
after driving around in a Golf mk8 for 7 months now. While I am used to it, making the dash so button-less was a mistake ( it is similar in interface with the ID.3, look it up if you are interested). While it is not that hard to use for me now, just a few more buttons for seat heating and fan speed would have been so much better. Also... WHY is the infotainment SO SLOW at the start. It feels like a PC from 15 years ago, when they had crazy "warm up" periods.
Yes I hope that this obsession with touch buttons and surfaces is gone in the next generation of cars. I get it for infotainment, but everything you need while driving should be physical!
@@manuelg8050 i am fine with the sliders btw. But the amount of buttons is too low. It doesn't need to become like a Kia or BMW with too many buttons, but it is just a bit silly now.
Holy crap. I sure hope that when my id.4 Pro S arrives in the States this summer it won't have these problems.
It won't have the software problems!
The obvious question has to be why did you buy it? There is much to be said regarding leasing a car of the type you intend to buy if you aren't 100% sure. There are leasing options out there now which allow you to lease on a monthly contract.....
You haven't watched the video, eh? I say it twice, that I love the car!
had an eGolf for over 2 years now. I dont really trust VW to fix software bugs. I still have a tough time preheating the car with the phone app. This is an old car by now, should have it fixed. I realize that the ID line is the main focus but they could have fixed the software bugs years ago for eGolf. Next year I am moving to Tesla.
helpful observations. I have a ID4 on order in the US. I will have to check the dealer demo model for some of the items you have mentioned. to see if they have remove these in final version. thank you
Hopefully VW will become fast at listening to the drivers, testers to bring about fast improvements and continuous innovations. Tesla is amazing in that... I really like the VW id4 and hope that vw will fix most issues
That sounds like too many major problems for a production car....maybe for a beta version, but I'll be taking VW off of my list of EVs which I'll be buying this year
It is a beta version, that is what I got 3 months free lease for.
With Software 783 you can see the charging speed in kW, just not in the charging menu, you need to select the consumption menu.
Mine shows 0.0 when charging.
Hmmm let’s check it, interesting 🧐
@Haugstadianer No.
@@alexklemme OK, I'm probably wrong, I must have seen it when regenerating while driving because I never sit in the car while charging.
@@BatteryLife Yep, I had to go out and check, it shows 0.0 in mine too. VW is treating us as children, it is really insulting when they deny us the actual charging speed.
Volkswagen has done well to save battery. for fans can certainly draw a lot of power. and if the battery runs out to an id3 then maybe it will be bigger in consequence than when a 12 volt battery runs out in a regular petrol car
What annoys me the most is the software lack of one pedal driving that I was used to in the Model 3. It´s a must and the midway solution adopted lags drivers needs. Also i would love to have the ambient interior lights always on (even during the day) and I can't. No quality issues whatsoever ("my" rented old Model 3, had tons of problems and a serious repair issue),
Isn't the ambient light always on. I thought so. The regen being low has a reason.
High regen on Rear wheel drive on slippery road can lead to unstable behaviour. VW is trying to be mord safe. Not more than 1,6 m/s2 decelleration.
Hopefully, VW now understands what a challenge it is to create good software. Microsoft for instance thought for years it could somehow muddle through with Windows Phone. Either you really focus on it, or you lose.
The brake issue is even more disconcerting. A German car maker should know that sportiness is all about linearity. Acceleration should be smooth, but equally, a car must provide consistent feedback when you are braking if you want to drive fast elegantly.
Really good video Chris. My Golf R is 3 years old and time to change. Thinking maybe electric, maybe Elon... just can’t make up my mind. VW haven’t been very persuasive either. Videos like yours help :-)
From the comments nobody has a good app but Tesla! 😂 I can also confirm the Kia UVO (U.S. version) app is terrible and hardly works. And, they charge $15/mo 😅 But, I love turning on the heater in winter, when it works.
Also I've noticed some security issues with it 😬
You can select to keep the heating on
Yes, but not the music.
The last thing you hated about your car with charging speed is probably a game changer for me. It needs to show it in kW not anything else. Doesn't it also have that very weird efficiency thing with hours kWh that I seem to remember you & Bjorn showing us.
The stationary power draw is shown in kWh per h. So you know if you are parked for an hour, it uses that many kWh from your battery.
Seeing bad reviews last year for the new Golf on its lack of knobs, I went through a phase where I thought I'd better get a Golf 7 while you still could here in Australia. Then thought the better of it and kept my Golf 6 Wagon, thinking maybe wait for the ID3... Not after watching this, not that it will be here anytime soon - the Golf 8 is still "coming soon"... eventually... maybe... Perhaps I'll wait for Golf 8.5 when they put the knobs back in!
I don’t get why they don’t put the kW charging rate above the km/h (or km/minute) text. It would actually look very nice and symmetrical, just like the battery SoC is displayed on the bottom right side of the screen.
Full agree on everything (didn't know the thing about the breaking though - haven't used Sport mode that much)!
Has nothing to do with sport mode. Drive fast in a corner, brake hard, you need more force than you would think.
@@BatteryLife I drive an e-up, which has a similar characteristic, its brake starts slowly. But other than you I drive in D (non-B) mode - and BTW would recommend this to anyone outside stop and go traffic - and so it is very convenient to fine-dose your brake such that you mostly regenerate, while keeping the classical user interface with separate brake and acceleration pedals.
I feel it has to do with the drum brakes. I know exactly what you refer to and never felt it in an e-Golf. Of course it might be the configuration of how much the brakes are recruited, but at the speeds or rather braking speeds you describe the force should already be mostly on the brakes.
Good review. These limitations are way too much for me! On my ICE VW the climate selections are so easy to set and change plus are retained when I turn off the engine. Horrible.
Thank you for bringing all these problems up, I have the exact same issues. One more thing, I want to see how much % I have left on the battery when I drive, that means I have to have the "charging screen" viable at all time, extremely annoying. Would be nice if you can change the est. range left to % on the main dash.
It is a good suggestion. But it is not a dislike for me.
I don't like the breaks, too. In the e-up! it's the same problem.
On Mii I resolve this using regen mode, any 1-4 helps. Without regen it's kinda hard
The braking issue seems to be a bit more serious than the others complaints. It sounds like it is just doing regen braking when it's clearly time to go mechanical. You have me thinking about trying an emergency stop in my wife's Chevy Bolt. I do try to brake early and lightly in my plugin hybrid Hyundai Sonata so that I don't go to mechanical but I would like to be confident that I can stop quickly. Of course, there is always the issue of how heavy an EV is as well. Maybe the brakes are undersized on the ID.3 .
My number one nuisance of this car: if I walk close to the car it unlocks. Automatically. Brilliant!! However, if I walk away from the car it doesn't lock automatically. You need to press the handle for that.... Why on earth did Volkswagen think that would be practical?? Automatic unlocking and only manual locking of the car.... it has happened to me sooo many times the car remained unlocked. I'll make sure never to leave anything of any value in there, because this really is an issue for me.
I was surprised in the beginning too. But now I prefer it.
So many times I walk away from a Zoe not paying attention and then I had to lock again to be sure.
@@BatteryLife I don't understand? My previous car did lock automatically when I left it. It's very simple technology, so it never failed me. My ID.3 however has remained unlocked overnight dozens of times already... it's terribly impractical! If there's one thing I could change about the car (besides the obvious software bugs) this would be it.
Point for point its the same for the id4. Especially with point 6 with a 2 ton car. Nailbiting sometimes.
Is a sign like that "Norma" one common? Feels like it's from the 50s. Cool :)
That is a grocery store chain.
Your item 3 is only a problem because of item 2. If VW can fix item 2, such that the car turns itself on quickly to your last-used settings, then it should be no problem with it turning off automatically. Otherwise, you would have to remember to turn it off. A Tesla turns off too, but it is back on to the last configuration instantly when you get back in.
All software. They can fix most things, if they want to.
Better if the car turned off when you close the door, you could then choose to not close it fully when going out to do a small thing.
And I thought it was annoying to turn vess off and auto hold on in my Ioniq every day. Hopefully they can sort all these querks out!
Yes, it is. But at least you have real buttons for it.0
@@BatteryLife yeah, this is true, especially in the cold when the touchscreen is slow to respond. :)
OMG will never get one after this video 😂😂 Thanks for sharing ;)
Do not make that mistake. Test drive one. It is amazing to drive. When the software gets better, the car will be even better.
@@BatteryLife Im already on the list for a Model 3 SP. After the price cut it will cost me about 34k after incentives. Thats a very good price for what you actually get ;) This will be my first electric car... ill keep you updated how I like it.
A good friend of mine got his Model 3 Performance a month ago and let me tell you it is a real blast to drive. Not comparable to anything I have sat in till that day and being from Munich I have been in several BMW M Models. 👍🏽
Ich gehe mal davon aus, dass du auch Deutscher bist. Habe die Antwort jetzt trotzdem mal vorsichtshalber auf Englisch geschrieben, da das ja auch deine bevorzugte Sprache auf deinem Kanal ist.
Schöne Grüße aus München 👍🏽
@@lifestyle4dividends776 Model 3 performance for 34K. In what country you life to have such incentives? :-)
@@kevinschauwaers5585 I think you misunderstood what I wrote, please read again :)
I wrote that I am getting a Model 3 SP (Standard Plus) wich is 39.990€ after the price cut in Germany and we get 6.000€ in government incentives. So it will cost me around 34k
I was just referring to a good friend of mine who has a Model 3 Performance wich is a blast to drive :)
Have a nice day Kevin and stay safe 👍🏽
@@lifestyle4dividends776 OK in Belgium standard range is 48 K without incentives. Insanely price difference though
Thank you for these points. I am disappointed of VW as major German car maker to have their product ripen at the customer. It’s the trend I. The 21st century to do this with anything that’s electronic. Only a few companies take their time and try deploy a complete product rather than an early incomplete one.
100% I agree with you!
It's funny how different things matter to different people. Agree about lane assist, most annoying although I believe it's not VW's choice but legislation? The other things you highlight don't bother me so much (I've had my id3 for three months but do far less driving than you) My previous car, the BMW i3, is inferior in some ways (stability and interior room for instance) but trumps the id3 with it's regen braking (which gives you genuine 1 pedal driving) and the idrive which I really miss (The 'iPad' controls on the VW feel like they've been designed by a fourteen year old tech wizard who's never driven a car). The other thing that annoys me is that there is no visible trip meter (unless of course I've missed something which is quite possible.)
Hi I like the charging speed in Km per hour or minute. This way you know how long you should wait to drive and charge example 200 km.
Good for you. They can keep it, but add kW display for more accurate display. So changes can be spotted right away.
They should give you the choice.
VW needs o fix all these points, great video! Send it to Herbert Diess. The really need to show kw at charging speed, it drives me crazy and makes me want to change car just because of that!
OBD dongle + sw provider will make lots of money, because every owner has to buy one to get the desired kW output. 😅
The most annoying thing I've found is that there is no trim above the accelerator pedal and when I go to accelerate my shoe sometimes catches, which is dangerous when trying to accelerate away at busy junctions.
Never had a problem with that. Too big feet? Sitting to close?
@@BatteryLife possibly too bigger feet ha, if it has shielding like the egolf it wouldn't be an issue, it's an odd one, I might have to retrofit something to stop it from happening
Apologies if this is too off-topic or personal but I think that's an excellent shirt! Also love the car, of course :-)
@battery life the fashion icon ;) soon we will all be wearing a bathrobe.
Thanks. Keep 'em coming. Lululemon. Wife bought it for me. It is comfy, warm and rinckle free.