VW ID.3 - Spend Less, Makes More Sense!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.พ. 2021
- This is a big release that a lot of people have been waiting for in electric car world! The VW ID3 has a lot riding on it, so will this propel VW to the front of the EV queue?
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We have owned ours for a year now so I feel well qualified to comment. It is a 58kWh 1st Edition from November 2020 and we bought it on 3rd March 2023 with 11,800 miles on the clock.
Comfort: first class. 200 miles and I get out of the car feeling fresh. The seats are awesome. Nobody who has been in the car has said anything bad about them.
Appearance: really doesn't matter much to me but I find it "non-descript" and inoffensive.
Practicality: good, wide doors with great access. Boot is sufficiently large for our needs even when we go camping.
Driver adjustability: 6'4" male and 5'4" female driver. Adjusts easily and could go further either way.
Interior: don't know what the fuss and criticism is about. It's practical and functional. Why do people want an excess of luxury?
Haptic buttons: you get used to them in days and you don't even think about them any more. Likewise the window switches: they work, end of.
Software: dealer updated to version 3.2. all works fine except the voice activation which is intrusive imo. Just turn it off. The nav is excellent. We just use comfort mode and D.
Range: we have had 305 miles in the summer and a low of 180 miles in the worst of winter. The heater/aircon does suck quite a bit of juice so use preheat whislt plugged in before you leave on cold days and you make massive winter range gains.
Best bit? So easy to drive and just so practical.
Worst bit? The bastard who smashed the drivers door window just for fun.
Niggle: would prefer smaller rims. 19 inch with 50 profile tyrea is silly. 17 inch with 60 or 65 profile would be much better for both efficiency and comfort.
Insurance? Cheaper than I feared and it actually went down on renewal.
MOT and servicing: had Cleevely EV come out and give it the first service as it had not been serviced from new. Replaced the brake fluid at 3 years. MOT'd with no faults or advisories.
Would I buy it again? Yes. Definitely.
When will we replace it? When we have to. We will keep it for as long as we can.
I don't know how you drive EVM but we've never seen such crap efficiency and we don't try.
At last someone honest and clear headed, who seems focuses on value and function.... Buying mine in a couple of weeks, used, at a good value. Hope my experience goes according to yours.
I've been waiting for your ID3 review for ages and found it to be much more informative than the Fully Charged review.
Well, the fully Charged review is usually Robert saying 'its lovely to drive - really smooth' or something similar..........!
Tbh evm does better reviews then robert on fully charged and well suprised he didn't use a brolly on this one.
Others on the fully charged show review cars better than robert, i think once they lost jonny the reviews dropped on that channel tbh.
Btw i do not dislike robert.
I haven't seen many on the roads. I'll be honest. Don't think it's sold as well as VW were probably expecting. Maybe the scandal with dieselgate is still ruining sales. I personally really like the id3. I haven't been in one but just looking at it and the range, it's more than good enough for most people. I'll be interested to see the bigger battery one being reviewed to see the real world range it gets.
@@dannya6825 Parked next to one a few weeks back the people were just coming back to the Car as I was walking round it 😂. Just said I hadn’t seen one and said very nice, they took it well and just said they were enjoying it so far.
EVM review good as always. User "battery life" has made a lot of videos as owner, if you're interested.
Hi EVM. I think this is a super review. Thank you. It's clear. To the point. The camera work is great - I could really see what it was like if I were to buy one. Your opinions are clear and reasoned. Really helpful - and not too long.You said in 24 minutes what some people would take 44 minutes to say. Good call.
I can’t look at that front end, without seeing Wallace saying, “Cheeeeeeeese”.
cannot be unseen
Odd you say that. Every time a see a Kona, I can't help but think Noddy car.....
...and thanks for making me aware of the brilliant octopus energy a couple of years ago!... :)
I’ve had my id3 life for a couple of months now. Love it.
i am choosing between life and business, do you miss any of the options?
@@philj212 I miss keyless entry from my Kia soul ev. That's it really. Parking sensors are fine, don't miss the camera.
Getting mine tomorrow, soooo excited!
Placed an order for one today. 6 months waiting time now. How are you guys finding it?
Loved the "Welcome to Yorkshire" as you hit a puddle.
Great review - test drove one and felt the same about the cheap hard plastic interior compared to all other VW's I've owned. But the penny pinching gets worse - Only top 2 trim levels have rear speakers. In other words you have to pay over £36,000 to get them. Bizarrely the family model doesn't have them. The cheapest car on the UK market, the Dacia Sandero, even has a full set!
Another very good video - thanks for posting it 👍
I'm not yet an EV owner but will be in the next few months ........ when I can actually test drive the cars! The ID.3 is on my shortlist and I've noticed on the VW configurator there is an 'option' described as "Energy efficient heat pump", which costs £1,250. Below it is a note saying "other options at additional costs may be required". It doesn't say what the other options are, or how much they cost, but seems to me like this could be an expensive option.
VW claim that if you have the additional heat pump it not only uses natural, carbon neutral refrigerant R744, which is apparently less harmful to the environment, but improves the car's range by up to 30%, which is quite a claim.
I respect you knowledge and experience of owning EV's so trust your real world, year round range figures of 170 (winter) to over 200 (summer). If the VW claim about the heat pump is true the real world range may be as low as 220 or as high as 260.
Interesting that VW claim the 58kWh battery with 204PS motor "has a real world range of 263", so I reckon they're quoting the range if a heat pump is fitted, yet don't mention that in any of the marketing information. Naughty but not surprising sadly .......
The car industry is going through a revolution but the same old story about being economical with the truth prevails. 😒
I'll be very interested to hear what the sales team say about this when I can finally get into showrooms to discuss the car and ask them this question.
Apologies for my scepticism but 45 years of owning cars has taught me to take any manufacturers claims about fuel efficiency with a very large pinch of salt!! Rule of thumb has always to reduce any claimed mpg figure by 25%.
I have been looking for a change to my hybrid for the last few months. Thank you for the review. I managed to track down a 70 plate ID3 Pro Performance Business with less than 10.000 miles, for just over £1250 with my old car as the balance. I think you hit the nail on the head in this piece. Its about our expectations. I looked at what I used the car for, how long it just sat on the drive, and the furthest I actually regularly drove. Which when you actually look isn't as far as you think. I did try a Kona, but felt that was cramped with the large silver looking center console. Even thou it has a little longer range. Again everything is a compromise. Keep up the good videos and honest comments.
Software updates have improved the winter range issue. We were getting 3.8 m/kWh in colder days but in the past couple of days we have seen 4.6 m/kWh. We are averaging over 4 m/kWh.
For us it's just a car but a very competent and capable car. It does what we need.
Nicest features? Auto lights and wipers, auto hold "handbrake", the hatch(kills a Model 3), the incredible headlights and so on.
We drive in Comfort mode and mainly use "D" rather than "B", we have been using the heating as desired.
Ours is a 1st Edition bought with less than 12,000 miles and one owner costing less than a new MG4. We just preferred it to the MG4 or a Kona.
Excellent and proper northerner review. Told me what I wanted to know 👍🏻
EVM is one of the best channels for trusted car reviews imo.
No waffle, no bull$#1t, no niceties justbno nonsense real-world opinions by "joe average" ( no offence intended ) rather than by pseudo sponsored, biased reviewers who are clearly contractually obliged to give a favourable review in return for having food put on their table.
I do hope that the channel continues in this vein and doesn't succombe to sponsorshipitis.
Anyway, the id3,....A decent buy for £25k but a huge anticlimax. The exterior I quite like, at least it is identifyable as an EV, looking fairly futuristic, but that interior is a poor effort.
I anticipate the id3 becoming widely discounted in the not too distant future. If they want to sell cars £49k+ they seriously need to up their game on design and material choices for the interior and included kit.
Hi, Really liked this review, as it was a car I was thinking about getting. You sat in the car for 15 mins to get the battery temperature up, but would a battery warmer (like on the Skoda Enyaq, as an extra) sort that out, and does it really make that much of a difference to the efficiency in our climate?
Great review. Which camera and mic were you using
Thanks for the video, no punches pulled.
I find the rear button for the back windows a good thing. Means I don’t open the back windows by accident.
When do people even open the rear windows. And if really needed with a longer press on the rear window activate button you can open all windows at once.
@@remco6816 I suppose you might open the window if you have a pukey child in back and the rear controls are locked out/out of reach.
@@Markle2k Just have a roll of plastic bags in the car...
@@ikketotalthjerneskadet1648 That's too late. Fresh air removes the symptoms.
But its penny pinching, my car has 4 buttons and there is no doubt about which windows i am opening. Silly design choice IMHO
spot on review, im also thinking id3 gives u more bang for ur buck if u go for the lower end, than high end, esp if u just care about general short travel day to day. What extra features do u think is needed if u go for the cheap one? U said heat pump?
Love the way you cower away from the splashing when going through the puddles. Hope there was not too much water ingress into the car with you in it!!!
Thanks EVM for another great and honest review. Your are right about the high RRP of ID.3 and there is obvious cost saving. The interior is OK but not what you would call premium. I though having only 2 window buttons was penny pinching but in practice the idea works well and you can open or close all 4 windows with one touch. As for economy I was very disappointed initially but it is, as you say, by the current cold weather and VW excessive battery heating. The temperature was better here the other day, 12C, I saw over 4 miles per kW on a short 10 mile journey. I read somewhere that Tesla and some other manufacturers, when displaying miles per kW only count the energy used by the traction motors. Do you know if this is true can you test it in your SR 3+? Interestingly did you drive in D or B. I find D to be more efficient for normal day to day driving as the car coasts so well, and prompts you when to do so.
Also when comparing costs I believe the the SR 3+ price of £40K includes the Government Plug In Grant whereas the £40K top of the range ID.3 does not making it £37K for comparison purposes. Also there are no discounts for Tesla M3 as far as I know and whereas VW were discounting the ID.3 last year.. The model you tested could have been bought last December for just under £30K so £10K less than a SR+. Don't get me wrong I think the SR+ is a great car and would have bought one if it were a hatchback.
As I said a great and honest test keep up the good work.
Good honest review. Cheers
Great review, i was looking at one of these but I wasn't keen on that interior. I ended up grabing the E208. Felt much nicer inside although this is a nice car over all
I really appreciate your reviews. You deserve way more subs
Really good review. Thanks.
Another good car review which encompasses all the consumers actual queries. Keep it up 👍
Very good, practical review
You can hold down the Rear button to activate convenience Open and Close mode
Very nicely done. Thank you
Very good informative video I've liked & subscribed 👏👏👏👏 I haven't seen anyone commenting on cable theft . You are charging your car at a public place go shopping can the cable be secured to the car ? Thanks again
Did a video about it in December.
They’re always locked to the car.
Enjoyable review, and I think your impressions are similar to mine. I currently lease an eGolf and I am actively looking for something to replace it in approx 12 months. I had a 4 day test drive in an ID3 and was totally underwhelmed.....such a shame. Efficiently and driving experience were so much worse than my eGolf by the end of the test I was happy to give it back. For £30k (probably my limit) I think I would rather have a second-hand M3 than a brand new ID3
If I was spending £26k on a new car I would buy an MG5. Because I did. Again, not super exciting, but a nice place to be, decent efficiency (it reports 3.6 miles per kWh, but distance travelled / usage says more like 4.5. Not sure why it underreports) and the front wheel drive was nice and solid in the recent snow. Rear wheel drive always seems like it will be unstable in bad conditions.
@timemachine_194 That doesn't surprise me overmuch - the Kona has far too much power for its chassis to cope with, put your foot down on a dry road and it spins the wheels. On the other hand I've seen several BMWs (with a 50/50 weight distribution) fail to get up a snowy hill that I happily cruised up in my Leaf. The bigger issue, though, is that a front wheel drive car doesn't spin out where a rear wheel drive car does.
Great review, the efficiency issue is so frustrating. Why on earth have they gone for such a rapid battery heat up rate? It makes it less appealing as a daily commute car. Complety agree about the interior quality, that's the reason why I'd already discounted it in favour of the Skoda enyak (despite the id3 being a better size for my needs). I'm assuming the heat up issue is common to Skoda, so I'm afraid that's off my shortlist too.
My theory on the weird electric window controls: they can use the same switch panel for cars with four or two electric windows, just don't print the "rear" legend on it for the latter and disable the light.
I have been waiting for you to review this one 😃🤘 excited for this one
Love the green flash on the number plate !
I have a First Edition id3, I have owned it since October 20. I agree completely with your assessment of the id3. I did test drive a model 3, brilliant car but not for me. It was to big and to low(I am in my 70s) The consumption leaves a lot to be desired and your comments on the interior are bang on. Well done.
Yes I too have discounted the Model3 for the same reason. Far too low a boy racer car. The Model Y still needs some refinement too especially around suspension. Why can't these car companies make a decent car :-( they have been doing it all my life ... we VW have. Tesla you should know better.
Does the steering wheel adjust fully or just up and down?
Same with my 2017 Chevy Bolt EV, you can see the areas they skimped on to hit their price point. But, it's great to see that the more affordable EV's are arriving!
Good review thank you
Eh up lad. Great vid. Keep them coming
I look forward to your reviews on the Seat and Škoda variants to see how they compare.
Especially keen on a review of the Skoda. If the interior of the ID3 isn't up to VW standards may as well go for less premium brand, right? I think it looks better too, at least in photos.
Cupra Born, maybe more interesting to drive?
Gotta pay for dieselgate somehow !. Great review as usual.
Great summary
These are all over our town in the Netherlands, and despite his recommendation otherwise, we're getting a higher spec one. We want the extra doo-dads beyond the base/cheap model, but the short of it is the ID3's size and nimbleness is ideal for our needs. We value reliability and manufacturing first and foremost. I work in software and know it will get better over time (and it has, by leaps and bounds) but or us, his recommendation to skip up to Tesla for a higher end model doesn't fly - Tesla's won't be on the menu until they've got hardware reliability down better and offer better service, and additionally, the cars are physically smaller (but that smaller car is 3 years away at best). It's not relaxing driving the QE2 down a narrow Dutch road. It'll be the ID.3 for us.
Where I live a base model tesla with tge same wltp range would have cost us 10k euros more. I do like tesla but i do have hopes for vw. The software will improve but to be honest I wanted an electric with decent range and charging. No need for all those software extras or a fancy interior as long as it drive good which is the only real reason why I use a car.
Very interesting and informative video. With regards to the battery warming-up issues, can you set the battery to warm-up whilst it is on-charge ?? IE If you were charging the car overnight, in your garage. Could you set some sort of timer to warm-up the battery during the last say one-hour of charging ???
Apparently not yet.
@@ElectricVehicleMan - As a matter of interest, do you know if any Electric Cars can warm their batteries whilst on-charge ??
Pretty much every other one.
Quite agree with you most people go for good quality interior on VWs not cheap finish what that looks like and no good switch gear.
That will be it down fall to many good other EVs out there now and more Chinese EVs arriving this year.
Great 👍 review as ever.
HELP NEEDED I’m looking at getting either a VW id3 or Skoda Enyaq iv 60 not a clue about charging from home and costs etc to have a unit fitted also I work nights so will only be able to home charge at weekends I’ve looked at octopus go for my energy but with these vehicles is there a way to work out time to charge / against mileage available as I want to go electric but not sure if working at night and only using a home charger mostly the weekend will work. I only travel around 200 miles a week 100 of those are at weekends. I really hope you’re able to read this and can help in any way possible or I might have to change for another hybrid car instead as I’m totally in the blind when it comes to EV ownership Chris Jones
Great Video EVM, Unfortunately I believe that the VW group is so entrenched with the concept of lies that I couldn't trust them to organise a piss-up in a brewery. I would not buy this VW EV.
16/09/21 - just found out that the MG ZS EV that I'm taking delivery of next week has the following in common with the ID.3 :
1. Same battery pack and electric motor plus controlling electronics, comes from SAIC, MG's parent company;
2. The floor pan from a VW T-ROC;
3. The steering wheel from a mk 7 Golf
4. and the same flipping badge to open the boot.
HOWEVER, I bought my MG for 18,000€ (equiv to about £15,000) including gov. grants. Can't wait to take delivery.
You are going to love the ID.4 then. That appears to be where they went with the quality of the interior. I totally agree about the efficiency, in winter, at the very least, but the car always makes me smile when I drive mine. In terms of deals, I got the 1st Edition model in December and managed to find £9000 off the list price! (£3000 government grant, £3000 VW deposit contribution, £3000 further off as part of the offer). Think there are deals to be had for those who want one.
I notice that on the central LCD display screen the 'Home' button is on the RH Side. Most previous reviews I've seen have it on the left. Clearly UK relative software upgrades are occuring that's promising for the future.
You’re right, the software generally has already improved a lot from the initial release to the 2.0 version which was on that car, and the 2.1 version which rolls out in the next month or so is what VW always meant the car to have
Is the interior “value engineered” to leave market space of a Audi badged ID3 with a posh interior (and Audi price)?
It would be worth paying extra to get rid of that black plastic and to get more buttons
Great review! I don’t think people realise how Terrible the consumption is compared to other cars. You’re the Bjorn of Yorkshire! Keep the great reviews coming!
However TeslaBjorn did longer trips and claimed it was highly efficient. Maybe not so in winter but he was running it on longer trips on temperatures of minus 18 and lower.
One of your best !
Not only the battery heater but the cabin heater is also even more inefficient. I usually drive with heating wheel and chair but with occasional cabin heater. Makes a huge difference on efficiency.
Can you pre-warm it to warm up the battery when it's plugged in at home before getting in the car?
Of course.
Really interesting, and makes me happy with sticking with my 2018 e-Golf. :-) (...until I can afford to go for a Model 3 Performance of course... :-D). Interesting stats in terms of efficiency compared with what I have now. Sounds very low. Around town, even in the cold of winter, I average over 3 Mi/KWh. As summer comes it's bouncing of 4 Mi/KWh.
After 7 months finally pick up tomorrow cheers for all your info
Good review. I'm still not that impressed with the inside of the car but the black finish is definitely better then white. Seems the ergonomics isn't that good? And another thing is why are there so many options on this car when they really should come as standard? I'll stick with the Zoe thanks, currently getting 3.4m/kWh as well 😄
Mark at Vanarama had a different press car that also had the same glove box alignment issue. Also, alloys are only standard on the top-level Tour trim?
What? Steelies on a £30k car in this day and age?
Alloys are only standard on the 1st Edition and the Tour
@@scottvessey915 Ah yes, forgot the 1st. Ta.
That’s still too expensive...
The review I've been waiting for! Great review EVM but I won't be swapping my M3 SR+ just yet... Maybe the ID4 will tick the boxes...
Any reason you’re thinking of changing it so soon? There are loads of second hand Model 3s on Autotrader. Buyers remorse?
@@zxyqwerty123 loads maybe for sale but remember it's the best selling EV in the UK in the last 18 months so loads will be for sale 2nd hand compared to other EV's
@@zxyqwerty123 The model 3 is a great "drivers car" and will always put a smile on your face! The acceleration, handling, superchargers and one pedal driving is great but like all cars not everything is perfect. In a perfect world I would like less tyre and wind noise at speed (60 mph and above). Not that its really noisy though, just could be better... and a hatchback would be slightly more useful. So I'm always going to be interested in what car could be next (if I do decide to change). The ID3 maybe be a good compromise for me as my other half won't drive the Tesla because its too big and too fast...
When are you getting the ID4?
Our eGolf lease is up next summer. We were looking at the iD3 but we have not seen one in person yet. It is either that or the Model 3. Looks like the Model 3 might be a better choice. Thanks for your review.
Extra Yorkshire point earned for mentioning the word 'sup'. FYI non Yorkshire folk, 'sup' is an ancient Yorkshire verb meaning, 'to drink' and is nothing to do with 'wazzup'.
eg. The id3 sups a ridiculous amount of power in winter.
Sup means “to drink small mouthfuls “ I don’t think it has anything more todo with “Yorkshire” than “Yorkshire Tea”, but if it makes you happy🤢
@@mikesl1573 sip means to drink small mouthfuls. Trust me, supping is something altogether more extreme.
@@martinwray7001 sup is to beer what sip is to tee
9:47 those 'buttons' also don't light up at night, good luck trying to use them when it's dark
They don’t on the Golf 8 either
you don't have to use them at all. The steering wheel has volume control and the touchscreen has climate temperature controls.
An excellent in depth review of a car that is going to sell in the millions. I like your no nonsense review technique, ( probably because you are a Yorkshire lad like me). As a former very high mileage driver, in many company cars, you hit on all the niggles that would annoy me also. I have recently changed my car, but deferred from an EV this time, since in the next 2/3 years a lot of the early deficiencies in terms of efficiency, design and build quality should have been addressed as well as pricing levels. 👍😎
Hi a very good review and I must say I agree with you on the inside of the car it feels a bit cheap. I do like the outside shape. But the efficiency is pretty poor at 2.5 to 2.7. Our Kia e Niro feels a lot better quality and a dam site more efficient we have been out today and on a 35 mile round trip got 3.9 but as usual with Volkswagen / Porsche most of the options on those cars is standard on ours. But weather or not we would buy one doesn’t mater the fact is it’s an other Ev on the market to chose from.
We have an id3 life and an egolf the id3 base model is packed full of kit, we got the alloys and heat pump though. Efficiency is still awful with the heat pump, the egolf winter range is similar to the id3 winter range
Thanks for the candid review, my mate delivers cars and says these are trouble, often just not starting for no apparent reason, needing some fiddling / resetting to get going again lol.
I loved my golds but atm this looks like a big miss.
how do you pre-heat an electric battery by standing still, surely preheating the cabin does not create enough load on the battery to actually warm it up
Great video review. But doesn't our model 3 do the same with warming the battery up on short journeys effecting the efficiency. I find my Model 3 terrible on efficency for short journeys
Not to that level.
Worried me when I looked at a PCP on these - 16.7p per mile extra charge, my present diesel is 10p per mile extra . The extra mileage charge is usually directly linked to the depreciation and resale value of a car. Are VW expecting the value to drop massively?
I bought this as IMHO its one of the best looking family cars currently. The interior is solid and good looking. The hard plastics dont seem bad as well. Not much different to the BMW 2 grand tourer it replaced, except that has soft plastics on the lower end. The window switches are great. I only change the front ones most of the time, and switching over to the back ones is easy. There are also tricks like keeping down the rear window switch for a few seconds make it flash, which then means that the buttons move all four windows. Very cool and useful. The touch buttons are different for old fashioned folk, but are much better as (i) they dont break over time, like mechanical switches, and (ii) are easy to use for the touch phone generation. The ride is very fast and quick, it feels like a much more expensive sports car. I cant compare to other VWs, as its my first one, but after a few days in a good EV, you cant go back to the noisy, sluggish, large bonneted ICEs. I test drove all the EVs between 30000 and 45000 and this was the first one which I felt stood its ground against ICEs, ie. you would buy for itself, rather then just because you are looking for electric cars. The range is the highest compared to manufacturer quoted range. The 260mile ID3 58 engine gets over 240m which is a higher ratio then all other electric cars vs manufacturer quotation.
See :th-cam.com/video/2hn31vLKgho/w-d-xo.html
Things that put me off was the laggy entertainment unit, low quality interior (hard plastics, ugly sear materials), only having speakers in the front ( I’ve never owned a car with less than 4 speakers. What was good… the drive and smart cruise, heated steering wheel, very good size and is really well packaged. Just wished they had carried over the interior quality from the golf.
I wanted to see the little light on the door in action! :-)
You can if you look carefully when the boot is reviewed, it’s blinking then.
100% with you on the penny-pinching interior. For the money, I would expect so much more quality, but then I remember it's VWG. It's a damn shame as I had high hopes for the ID3 and VWG.
Thanks!
Can you preheat the battery
As you say, short range efficiency in the cold sucks, and being in Norway I know. Other than that (going by various tests around), it is as, if not more, efficient than most other EVs currently on the market - but that's over distance.
I hope they give us the option to turn off battery heating for short journeys - perhaps automatically determine if it's worth it based on navigation destination.
I chose my Max over a model 3 SR+ and the Korean triplets for a variety of reasons - could go into them but I think they are said by others many times over in various places. :)
Corrado VR6 one of my favorite old cars too! 😃
This is the kind of review owners of this car would hate, but non-owners may appreciate.
My questions after watching your review:
- Would I have to go to a dealer to update the software?
- Will it come to Canada? At what price?
- How will it stand up over time?
The BMW i3 has very similar proportions, etc. (eg. short nose, long wheelbase, side cutout, two-tone colour, shift lever design, spacious cabin) and I suspect VW took many cues from it.
The interior is where you spend the most time. If the interior is crap, the car is crap.
I like the window switches like that, I hardly ever want to open the rear windows, if I do lower a rear window in my current car (with 4 switches) is almost always by mistake when I have to take a parking ticket or pay at a toll boot.
Also, a nice trick, hold that "rear" switch for a second and then you can lower/raise ALL windows simultaneously with either window switch.
That heat pump option is very cheeky at that price. Is it included in any models? The one thing you would put in to make the car more efficient, in both heating the cabin and batteries.
@timemachine_194 it's basically an AC unit, so should be pretty reliable.
@timemachine_194 never heard of heat pump issues on any 2013+ Leaf here in Sweden. If they can survive our winters and outside heat pumps for houses works for decades i don't really see when they will fail.
Is it really bigger inside, what you need to look at is distance from front bumper to front seat. Seems quite a lot.
It's got the interior space of a Passat.
I've just ordered one of these (Life Pro Performance) and I'm a little worried I havent done my homework - I knew nothing about the heatpump bit, the dealer didnt even know if it came with a charging cable (he since informs me it does, hope he's right) but perhaps a bit worse is the economy of it. My diesel returns pretty much the same MPG regardless of weather or at least its little affected, probably because the heat generated is there like it or not. I wonder what that same trip would have been with another EV - I'll scan your other reviews - To achieve the 260 claimed does that mean a straight division of the mileage by full battery capacity in KWH ie it should be producing nearer 4.5 miles per kwh? Is this a bit VW Dieselgate - can it be achieved. in WLTP terms?
I picked up a new Business (58KW) with heat pump and 19" Andoya wheels for 29K, on the road last December. It's had the 2.1 software update, now awaiting the next. Last winter 165 miles was lowest, this summer up to 230miles. I have achieved 5.2M/KW on rural runs, normally it is between 3.8 to 4.5M/KW. The interior is built to a price, I don't care, I don't chauffeur VIP's, and it doesn't worry me about any dog scratches. Is it an engaging drive - no, but it is a relaxing drive. lot's of clever tech and all the switches that every tester complain about are not an issue with use. I was going to buy a Model 3, but with a 14K saving the id.3 works out okay - great rear hatch opening for taking crap to the tip, so more functional than the Model 3. Only do home charging so the supercharger network makes no difference to me and at the price I paid I can trade it for 28.25K today - so I consider I got a good deal.
The interior trim is pretty poor, and why are these companies using silly so called buttons, you can have good old fashioned buttons on electric cars . When you was touching the screen I thought it looked sluggish, are these companies using computer chips from the 90s
Totally agree going capacitive touch , reducing buttons to open the windows, were some of the worst Decisions vw made. This is a big step back from the e-golf. not displaying kw going instead of just time when charging, more seat colours and optional full leather should be offered, as well as a painted roof
@@ram64man I found so many things wrong with this car even the seats looked boring
I ordered the Top Spec with the race seats in a 58 Kw Batterypack
I cancelled my ID3 preorder after seeing it in person at the Frankfurt motor show launch (remember the days we could travel?). The whole thing felt very sub-premium, plasticky and toylike even, and not VW at all.
At Christmas taken delivery of Tesla model 3 long range. Thats another story. Mostly stuck outside in lockdown doing nothing i notice huge drain >1% each day. (Btw tried everything recommended to properly standby). On top of day 1 panel gap issues and much less range than I expected, the regen has just failed. Less than 600miles done and not a happy Tesla owner. Makes me appreciate my BMW i3 all the more.
The side profile, rear spoiler section that is black, visible from the side is extremely good design, visual trickery to give that C-Pillar and the back of the car a more aggressive shape. Hats off to VW, a small detail but smart.
bit classic honda civic type R in side profile. The look is growing on me a lot. Base model is an ok price but the higher specs get too close to model 3. I’d need to figure out the best combination of options/battery/spec to see how much cheaper it would be. If its within 1-2k of a Tesla SR+ I’d just go for the Tesla. But if you can get active cruise, lane keeping for a lot less might be interesting. Augmented reality sounds nice and I’d like to try it on a test drive, and I’d like surround view camera which tesla doesn’t offer. and powered hatch would be nice. Maybe a facelift in a couple/three years will adjust the buttons to be more ‘blind use’ friendly
Awesome review as always. By far the best review Ife seen of the ID3. I can't believe how poor the interior is, especially for the top of the range model.
I think as soon as you go above £35k, you're already spending so much you may as go with the Tesla. Their drive train, battery technology and supercharger network is worth at least £5k, I'd say nearer £10k.
I think if you could pick up the basic life model with smallest battery for around £20k that might be a great buy. I think VW would be a bit embarrassed to not be competing in the mid to higher premium EV market though.
Competing at the higher end of the EV market will be taken care of by Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Jaguar..........Jaguar recently announced that they will be 100% electric by 2025........ And I'd have to agree re: the ID3's interior. The seats etc -in the video - looked like a basic Fiesta from 30 years ago........ I can't help but feel that you'd get a better feeling sitting in a Hyundai Ioniq.....
It's a shame Tesla don't make anything that isn't a saloon, or a saloon lazily scaled up to SUV size in mspaint. You can't put a dog in the boot of a model 3, at least not without the RSPCA getting involved.
@@gardnerp96 yeah I wish the model 3 or at least a version of it was hatch back.
@@JonathanPalfrey I really wish they'd square the back off a model 3 and make an estate, the boot is huge but no good at all as a family car. I do most of my journeys by bike and my wife has an eNiro to commute in but we occasionally need something bigger or I need a car while she's out. I'm still hoping that VW don't fumble the ID Space Vizzion in the same way they seem to have done here. Or that Skoda do something better with the platform before my 12 year old diesel estate dies.
Is the boot larger than an eniro in practical/usable sense?
Fraction smaller.
Originally, I opted for an entry-model ID.3. But I, unfortunately, wrecked my old car and had to get a new one before the ID.3 even came out. So I ended with the Corsa-e. And aside from the boot-space, I don't regret it for even one second! And it has a much sportier feeling ride IMHO.
Honest review
You need EVM waterproof merch!
For me thing’s to change
1 - infotainment software - a badly needed refresh, and get rid of the touch buttons attached, Just going to a screen such as the enyaq did and physical shortcut buttons
2 trim colours , gray gray and gray give us some options for the seat covers, like the light colour option with the us id4.
3 roof trim should be offered in a lighter colour option too.
4 sunroof option on the tour pro s
5 disable the always heat battery pack. Other ev’s from korea don’t use it so why do we need it above 4c , the pack will naturally warm most of the time just driving follow tesla and just limit max output while still warming and in low temp zones Highlight the zone with a cold blue etc whilst warming
6 offer 4x4 options not just with a gtx or r type
7 door switches, give us 4 window switches not a combination code
8 a one colour option, not just two tone
9 my test car had a really spongy break pedal, the id4 had the same so this really needs solving ASAP . Adding. One peddle option is a must it can be added with the software update as b just isn’t strong enough, please give us the option to set regen
10 the miles per kw needs improving, ideally 4kw in all conditions, As it only creeps over this in 20 zones fully preheat or on a byorn test run
11 move the lighting switches and fuse box to the right , the glovebox is a joke on rhd
12 give users the option on disabling the auto on when the break peddle is pressed , thus allowing user to jump out open a gate etc without turning off , but also as a safety element when young children get into the car when the door is open , also add a pin to start with the auto on for people that have the key within the wake up unlock zone in there home
13 offer a 360 cam option on all trims
Always like a good rear entry!