Nissan No More Gas Motors! - Don't Buy Used Over 100k Miles? - Jeep Plans 50% Sales Increase!
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- Nissan No More Gas Motors! - Don't Buy Used Over 100k Miles? - Jeep Plans 50% Sales Increase!
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Just when Nissan was looking to benefit from Toyota's woes they say something like this.
As I commented on another video here on this channel. Nissan never learns when it comes to marketing. It’s unbelievable how bad their marketing strategy is (usually it seems that they have none).
Nissan should have never joined with Peugot. They were a much better manufacturer when they were on their own in the 90's.
seriously, I was looking at the frontier 4x4....
@@derekp6636 You still can. The current generation will likely continue for another 5 years. All they are saying is ICE cars will be phased out over time. But then again allot of oems say the same thing. Its all talk at this point. Bottom line EV as it stands is knackered. Too expensive, no infrastructure, high insurance and repair costs just to name a few systemic issues with the technology. IMO, Li-on is a complete failure to power EV. Its expensive, toxic, dirty to mine, and very heavy. Eventually oems will realize its not the way. If what they desire is to lose billions of dollars and to bankrupt themselves then Li-on will get you there in a hurry.
@@is6566 As a customer I'm fine with them having no marketing strategy. It keeps costs down for them and it keeps trucks on the lots longer which makes negotiating price even better for me. They don't seem to be going out of business so don't give them any ideas! 🤣
Unfortunately we're getting to the point that newer cars are so randomly unreliable you would be better off to totally refurbish a 200,000 mile 98 Honda accord than buy a new car.
I just rebuilt whole top end of a 99' Tacoma with a bit over 364,000..tranny is smooth as silk and interior is spotless. Let's bring back use it up wear it out...these mfg's and Dealers have dug their own pit.
My Civic hx is a 1998, and at 275k, it needs a new transmission input shaft bearing. It's worth doing. But honestly I'm shocked and disappointed, because I've NEVER worn out a Japanese transmission in 40 years. My Nissan Hardbody has 428,000 miles, and shitts like new, despite hauling up to a ton at a time. Transmission has never been out of the frame. Man, what a golden age for cars compared to now.
We refurbished a2013 Honda Accord with 180,000 miles my son uses it for College no car payments to worry about
They did a recent analysis where they’re suggesting that reuse of used vehicles has increased by 60%. It’s already happening.
@@MrNismopro Too bad so many of them from the Golden age of reliability already got junked because no one felt ot was worth a thousand or two to repair them. I always saw the value in them.
I'm so glad I bought two new cars right before covid.
That 212cc Predator engine swap is sounding like a reality for these newer cars 😂
😂😂 harbor freight here I come
No GM fan here, but I have 410k on a 2006 Silverado. 4.8 Engine and trans all untouched except fluids/ scheduled maintenance.
Very nice
Under rated motor. Everyone went for the 5.3. The 4.8 was under less stress and built solid.
I'm getting a used Amish buggy and a good used horse,some hay and oats is all you need.
Nissan will mess with the Frontier like Toyota is ruining the Tacoma and 4runner. They can't help themselves. I will take a generation 5 4runner with over 100k miles.
Yep. They will totally F it up in the next two years.
I will never buy a EV Nissan or any auto maker that is EV only 👎🏻
I don't like or eant an ev either
I’m glad someone is riding the same boat as I am
Don’t buy cars after 100,000 miles?
Are these the same people that are saying ‘life time transmission oil’.
Agree. Thought it was interesting to read but I don't agree with it
They better pay attention.most car companies are cutting back ev production because they cant sell them
Honestly, I have no interest in EVs.
Me either
PHEV's...yes that's what we really need right now...more complexity in our vehicles!!..makes em so much more reliable. /s
2005 4runner bought 2015 well over 100K....still rolling no major repairs
Great suv
4Runner just getting warmed up at 100k
Agree 100
Bicycles and mules are the future.
6:36 agree, there’s so many more electronics and parts added to these vehicles that the cost is really high.
Just be like Fred Flintstone and get a vehicle that runs on leg power 😂
We really needed electric parking brakes
@kdaltex that require a special custom chip!
And when few cars are offered with anything but automatics, whose users don't usually use their parking brakes anyway (if they even know how to use them).
Nissan - you have had many counter intuitive ideas over the years, but this is BY FAR the counter intuitive-ist of the them all dude!
This just goes with everything i've been saying about every company. Do not buy any new car/truck right now. Everyone is after massive profits and going with lowest bidders for parts so all these new vehicles are going to be junk.
Even the mighty Toyota is going down the tubes. The new Tundra is a complete pile of junk. Defective motor, bad bearings blowing up the camshaft. And the rest of the truck rattles with poor build quality. Cheap Junk with extreme profit margins. Now owners can't even trade them in as dealers want nothing to do with it. And this is from Toyota no less. GM has their electrical issues galore and never ending lifter issues. Ford with countless recalls and 2.7's and 3.0 motor failures. Kia with burning oil and engine failures. Honda with oil dilution. Its a very big list of crappy ass oems right now. Honestly if I had to buy new it would be a Mazda CX5. Because it still does not have the cylinder deactivation nonsense and bullet proof 2.5 Also the 6 speed non CVT transmission is reliable and proven. Still made in Japan. Maybe the only car I could honestly recommend. Its a carry over from an older design that still sells like hotcakes. Because buyers know its reliable.
I’ve owned over 15 vehicles and only 3 had under 100k miles when I bought them. My 2 BMWs had over 200k miles when I sold them. Most modern cars can last for a long time with proper maintenance and can cost way less to run if you learn how to turn a wrench
BMW and their kindred spirits are way too expensive to acquire and maintain.
@@talisikid1618 key is to only buy an inline 6. They’re reliable as most cars if you take care of them
@@Richard-xv7yf and not made by many and they aren’t foolproof either. I like good ones but modern companies have no morals. They just want money.
I think this is pure BS about not buying a car with over 100000 miles. It would depend on price according to. My daughter is driving a Honda with over 260 thousand miles on it and I have had several with over 100,000 when I sold them. Of course costs for repairs have gone up, but so have the cost of new cars.
Good points. And I personally agree
I’m agreeing with you. Well crafted analysis
Thank you
Buy an OBS chevy and fix it nice - that is a truck for life. ;)
Bruh my GMC has 220k and my Comanche has 180k. Both run fine.
Nissan is like volvo. "we going all ev!". Sure you are. Sure.
No. You are going to go with what people will buy
Very true
Porsche is usually pretty good -in 14 2 motors caught fire in 911 GT3s. They stopped sales stopped drivers. Paid owners $2500 a month till fixed. Replaced every motor and extended warranty on all 2015 911 GT3s. This must be from Volkswagen headquarters. That’s not the way they do business. Macans are in the 50-75k range not $150k unless you buy the Cayenne turbo S
Great info . Thank you.
Maybe for the 2022 models and newer, but a blanket avoid of 100k cars is just asinine.
Of course you don't purchase German or a range Rover. That's a given going back 45 years.
Buying na vehicles with service records should not be a problem, exceptions always apply to "troubled" models and years.
Yup! Leave the Frontier alone. Put that money into better marketing.
Agree 100
The Frontier needs cameras better than 360p. I might have bought one if the tech was better. Ended up with the Colorado instead.
I'm really hoping that is in the refresh for 25. They could offer different colors and update the camera/screen while changing nothing else and I would count that as a success.
@Scroll_Lock avfew other inexpensive adds. Grab handle on driver side, powered open back window, 2 inch lift on pro 4x
@@Scroll_Lockboth great ideas plus grab handles driver side,powered rear window. Pro 4x with factory 2 inch lift nice too
@@gordmonteath6090 I heard rumors they would lift it just enough for stock 33'' tires but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I would hope they could do it for the Pro 4x only, but really the camera alone would be the most important and needed change. The S and SV are the go to affordable pickup for people that just want simple and reliable at a rock bottom price. From spy photos we see them driving not only Pro but what is probably an SV (maybe some driver assist stuff?). Whatever it is, it's going to be something updated for all trims if I had to be a betting man, so very small change.
2024 Rav4 Adventure just bought, 8 speed auto, 2.5L naturally aspirated engine. Gonna see if I can use this for 20+ years. No EV for me.
2003 Toyota Camry 300,000 it’s burning a 1/4 quart oil monthly but after 22 years I changed oil 4000 miles trans fluid 60,000 coolant 50,000 and other maintenance 34 miles a gallon best vehicle ever
Outstanding
Congratulations on such a great suv
Lesve Frontier alone, EXCEPT offer a manual transmission so we can keep the truck 30 years, as I have with the Hardbody I bought USED 30 years ago, with the 5 speed still doing fine at 428,000 miles. Why MUST we all have a $6000 computerized slushbox to worry about?
Slushboxes can last much longer if the fluid is changed regularly. And some brands have automatics that are affordable to rebuild if it's serviced at the onset of issues.
I had a 91 Pathfinder which was built on the Hardbody platform. Great truck with the V6, 5-speed, and manual transfer case. Terrible fuel economy though lol
Nonsense. No one wants or buys manual transmissions. That’s why they aren’t offered, no profit in them.
Would love a manual
@@talisikid1618 Speak for yourself. You're not everyone. I'm not the only "no one" here.
In over 40 years of driving Nissan manuals, I've NEVER had to rebuild one yet. I find great value in that kind of build integrity and simple ruggedness.
Those who are addicted to whatever great advantage they see in a slushbox either trade in before it gives up, or weep and howl when the $5000 bill comes. My total transmission expenses in 30 years of the same Hardbody 5 speed have been one gear oil change to Amsoil synthetic.
Besides, my left foot needs the exercise.
I make no apology for being too cheap to justify the big financial bomb that eventually comes with a modern automatic. These are not the days of 3 speed automatics from Detroit that lasted forever and I could rebuild myself.
@@jeanclaude7018 never had a problem. I keep my cars 12-15 years. No one wants them. They don’t sell. That’s why they don’t offer them. Pure business decision. And the only transmission I ever had a problem with was a gmc truck with a 5speed manual that went out close to 500 miles after the warranty. The dealer had talked me into it and taught me how to drive it. Got it brand new. Turns out they had issues with their manuals but none with their autos. Should have stuck to them. Fortunately, the dealer took care of it free of charge, towing included. The trans locked up going down the interstate. Could have been a dangerous situation. So, no dinky manuals for me. And you can’t drive them if you have an injured arm/leg. I’ve had both more than once but autos were doable.
I agree with you on leaving the Frontier engine alone. On the reliability of European vehicles I always found it strange that the ones sold in the United States are crap. But when you are in a less than friendly 3rd world country a V-8 Range Rover is a life saver. Almost seems they trying to screw America. (But we know that they would never do that). 😊
Porsche takes care of their customers. The transfer cases are covered by a 10 year warranty! They will completely replace the transfer case! Now if this guy missed the 10 year time period well what the hell???
The only cases that were bad are the ones were the oil was not changed and sucked water into the t-case vent tube. Otherwise no issues with the T-case😒
PHEV-HAHAHAHAHA 👎
Not interested in any garbage like that.
Me either
"PAID EXPERTS?"
What the hell is a "high bread"?
How is it different between autonomous vehicles vs those drives with phone on their steering wheel watching youtube or text messages? I would say that autonomous vehicles are much safe then those drivers. Not to mention those elderlies who always want to drive and extremely slow on the road, they are blocking traffics and cause more accidents than anyone else as most of the time, they got a lot of time and spontaneous steering to wherever.
Nissan seems to purposely want to run the company. They refuse to give up their crap CVT's, now they announce they will quit investing is ICE development. They have one of the best midsize trucks and are determined to ruin it. They definitely need to revamp their upper management.
I think they are gonna keep the same v6 in the frontier for along time though. And that's a good thing
I’m sorry but evs will never go as far as a N/A vehicle...I’m just getting tired of this crap really getting sick and tired of the nonsense from car brands and I’m tired of being mad at brands that just want to throw away combustion engines and use electric junk I’m sorry but it won’t go and it will never work there’s too many issues
The battery technology isn't there yet
Agree 100
I totally disagree with the no 100,000 mile used vehicles. 1) I buy from people that take care of their cars. Grandma that religiously changes her oil. A car person that does their maintenance. Fleet vehicles, where someone gets paid to do nothing but change oil. 2) I like to watch for older models, and see how they held up at say 300,000+ miles, then go find a lower mile good condition example. 4) where I live mechanics are still pretty cheap. 5) I only buy Toyotas now, but the older models. Let someone else do the product testing and take the depreciation. Once those newer models prove themselves, then I might be interested in buying one.
Grandma's drive their car 4 blocks at a time. Short trips are one of the worst hidden dangers outside of not changing the oil often enough. The engine never gets to temp, the engine rarely leaves open loop, and unburned fuel in the oil does all kinds of nasty things inside the engine.
Obviously, gasoline is next to go or be unavailable somehow. Buying anything is a trap.
Much of the ev things came from politics. Since the green party just lost their azz in Europe elections it might be in decline.
I actually like the idea of ev? Simpler? But yeah. Where i live no. Just no. And better tech isn't there yet i didn't think. The "idea" if ev is nice. I even have a electric chainsaw. But . Like all my power tools at some point you have to buy batteries. Which is half the price of the tool.
replace cars after 100k? wtf? learn to order parts from rockauto and DIY
I don't want a plug in car.
You can't mention sales figures and say they are up without telling us what the consumer sales are? Are these numbers up because of fleet sales? Then that is not an accurate representation of the car industry. The car industry relies on consumers.
I read the articles and present what they are saying. Feel free to research it more if you need to
i'm almost of the opinion that if you can get a new vehicle that makes it to 100K, then it's a keeper.
Good point
Renault is probably driving this position. They will back away from it just like everyone else did with the “all EV” nonsense.
The frontier needs a dash upgrade, otherwise it's ok
It does? I love mine.
This is probably why the Titan is out for the moment. They want to retire the V8, work on whatever EV or turbo + ev. Then when they have a solution bring back the larger truck.
What it spells for the consumer is that this new prices will be high. All this R&D costs money and they'll want it back. The new products will be brittle and will take time to QA to reach current product reliability. This is a multi-country, global movement. Canada just dumped billions to attract VW, Honda, etc. to make EV and battery tech.
As for the “Don’t buy over 100k-mile vehicle”. Just think about it. Unless it’s a lease return, or from someone replacing their vehicle every 3-5 years, when do you trade/sell your car? Do you sell it when everything is great with it? No issues? No problems? Or do you sell it when problems start popping up and you don’t want to deal with them and don’t want to dump the next batch of money into them?
If you get rid of cars when they start causing problems then why’d you assume other people would behave differently? Consequently, when you are looking at a used vehicle, unless it’s a low mileage relatively new less than 5 year old vehicle, you are looking at someone else’s problem bucket.
I have a 1998 Honda Civic I bought with 98k miles in 2006, and a 1987 Nissan Hardbody I got in 1995 with 204,000 miles. Honda is now at 275k, and Nissan at 428k, with DIY engine refresh at close to 300k. Never in 40 years have bought a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. For me, this used to be the perfect place where the depreciation brought the price down, yet there was a lot of life left in the car. Of course, manual transmissions were common then, and didn't cost $5000 to rebuild if they broke at all. My Civic HX does need a new input bearing, but the Nissan transmission shifts like new. This apparently was a golden age when Japan competed for longevity and value, not gizmos and max horsepower. I cant see ANY of these turbo, 10-speed computerized slushboxes going this kind of distance, and when they blow, at some point they will total the car as it depreciates.
I have had very few major issues in 30 years of driving these old used cars. In fact I paid $2500 for the Nissan, snd not counting normal maintenance and wear items, I don't think I've put another $2500 into repairs, including the parts to rebuild the engine (my cheap labor excluded of course). It's sitting outside with another capacity load of mulch in the bed.
To me, this is the insane value you USED to get out of a used car if you didn't need the newest and best. So many went to the junk yard that should have been repaired.
I mean, how many people buy a used truck with over 200,000 miles, and are still working it 30 YEARS later?
This is how normal quality used to be.
Yes but the keyword is as you yourself highlighted, “USED to be”. These newer models and newer mean pretty much anything from the last ten years at least, is so computerized that you need a specialized software to pretty much diagnose what’s wrong, when something goes wrong.
Agree 100
The never buy a vehicle over 100k miles because of "potential" high repair costs is ridiculous. Uhmm, new vehicles are astronomically expensive now, so spending 3-4k on a new tranny is more financially sound than going out and buying an 80k replacement pickup. Especially, since car companies can't seem to deliver quality product these days. Whoever wrote that is a shill for the auto industry.
Agree. Bit was interesting to see the authors perspective
My lady wants a 3.6l rubicon, 2018 or so. I have a ‘21 off road premium 4runner she can drive. Should I just let her drive the 4runner or is that year, engine, wrangler a good buy?
You should let her drive what she prefers and you will be happy. 😃
@@is6566 prolly a great idea, but I’d rather buy a fishing boat 😂
The boat works too. You can leave her on the shore and be happy. 😃
@@is6566 she is a better angler than I am! 😂
Me and several of my friends own 2018+ 3.6L Jeep Wrangler Rubicons. They are fantastic…
No Nissan for me. Or any new trucks. Good luck to the the next generation of libs.😂😂. Who do we have now gen Z gen Alpha. Next will be betas. And so on.
If Jeep goes EV I am never buying one!
Me either
They already have hybrids
@@jeffrymcallister2789 I mean only ev like they mentioned!
@jeffrymcallister2789 and the 4xe wrangler is the best selling suv hybrid in its class and has been for last 3 years.
@@Jason-Samko EASY because it's in a class of it's own!
It's still cheaper to repair a vehicle then buy a new vehicle. You are starting to sound like a shill for the car industry. My Tacoma has 156,000. Not an issue. Buy a Honda, Toyota and get maintenance records. And Missing 1 oil change is not going to damage your engine in most cases. Your fear porn is really starting to sound like a shill for the car industry now.
That's funny
Muh-khan
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I can tell you from travelling around the world there's a whole lot of the planet where there's no place to plug a vehicle in. No new engines? Why don't they just turn out the lights and call it a day 🙄
A turbo 3.8 option from nissan would be more ammunition against Toyota
Even though they don't need help right now.... I AGREE WITH YOU! , I'm waiting for Z1 off-road to release the supercharger here shortly. The frontier is crushing everything in sales right now. People have caught on. It's a phenomenal truck!
Lmao I never trusted Nissan anyways 😂😂😂.
I love how people bash EVs and hybrids because of the battery when normal gas cars still have costly maintenance like engine, transmission, transfer case, exhaust, etc 😂😂😂. Same issues just different powertrains
Batteries cost way more money to replace 🤡
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Nah. In my case, I just look it from the perspective of off-road robustness. Nothing beets a Wrangler or a Gladiator for off road build and longevity if put through the same hard offroad course and driving. Another channel, Dirt Lifestyle did a comparison of the Tacoma vs Gladiator. No judgment, just statistics. Axle tube diameter, tube steel thickness, axle shaft diameter, gear ring size, etc. everyone could decide at the end which one is more likely to survive a beating in the bush.
I'm a fan of all brands and all trucks.
You are misinformed brother. The Nissan frontier outsold the Ford ranger by 15,000 units in quarter one. It lost only to the Toyota Tacoma by 1000 units. I cannot wait to see quarter 2 numbers because it will be number one!
Ranger and Tacoma was practically unavailable in the first few months of this year because of production delays with the new gens.
@@is6566 ok....let's see what you have to say when the numbers come out.
A lot of Toyota fanboys don’t want a 4 cylinder & it’s a deal breaker for them. Nissan is getting a lot of love off that mistake & I assume when the ranger 6 comes to town they will also get some more of that love as well.
@@bradleyclapper8378 exactly! The frontier is a better truck anyway. 60:1 crawl ratio to Tacoma's 33:1. DANA/SPICER transfer case, aluminum driveshaft and rear end. Butter smooth 9 speed transmission. Hydraulic steering. Zero gravity seats, 3.8 NA V6 and it's made in america?? This may sound harsh but one would have to be a damn fool to buy anything else in the midsize market....just based on mechanics ALONE.