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Scotty I bought a 1989 Ford f 350 with aftermarket bed bumper and 5 inch lift for $3000 runs strong always starts and is a 460 engine I know the parameters are rough but they say the 4 wheel drive works and it's on 35s both tanks work and the cruise control works it a lariat and the Interior is clean (ac doesn't work) did I make roughly a good purchase?
I knew an honest used car salesman once. He actually did ok for himself and his family. Wasn't wealthy, but everyone trusted him. Goes without saying, but those guys are rare.
I did car sales in downtown Chicago, real high end area of the city and would watch people drive away in total junk with glossy paint. When everyone who works at the dealer doesn't drive that brand at all you have to wonder about that brands reliability and quality. I also didn't like how people were treated if they weren't dressed up. Had a girl that walked our lot for half hour and noone even went out to say hi because she wasn't affluent looking. I went out and she told me she wanted this one used car, I said sure and she then told me ok sold, didn't even want to test drive it, came in, paid and left in less than 40 minutes. I got the sale and she didn't even ask about the price, she wanted me to get a good commission for being the only person that asked her if she needed help. Then there's the people who can't afford to own what they're buying, had a Russian girl who NEEDED at least a 5 series BMW. She had 800 bucks in her bank, and maxed out credit cards for her down payment. A few months later she returned because her friends couldn't believe she'd buy a rear wheel drive car with Chicago winter's. So she NEEDED all wheel drive, 5 series etc etc. Turns out her loan was going to be above 100k and her car was only worth 70 percent what it was in fall. She was furious when her car payments would be higher than her rent. It didn't matter since she couldn't get approved anyway and later I heard it was reposessed anyway because turns out she couldn't pay cards, rent, car and designer clothes and purse. She could have left with a new all wheel drive Mini but said she wouldn't be caught dead in that stupid thing (keep in mind it's BMW who owns it)
Moral of your sentence, if you buy a car that is unlucky, you're screwed, if you buy a lucky car that has no defects, you ain't screwed. But either way a car needs maintenance so either way, owning a car is basically means you're screwed. Better off with bike. Even with bike, parts need to be replaced. So youre screwed. Basically life is meaningless and your screwed.
Ten years ago, a used car dealer tried to charge me a 'destination' fee on a used car. When I asked him why, he said he had purchased the car 900 miles away, and they had to have it shipped there. I told him to ship it back, and I'd buy it there. Then I walked out. A month later, I see the very same car advertised for sale for 30% less than he has previously priced it at.
I was on a dealers lot buying a used car some years ago. During the process I was told because of 9/11, background checks are mandatory and was asked to fill out a credit app. I reminded them that I was not financing the car I'm writing a check in full. Hand me a background check app and I'll sign it. The manager came out and said filling out a credit app was standard procedure everywhere. He said "ask any dealer". So I replied "that is exactly what I'm going to do. I'll ask another dealer. Thank you for your time". And I walked out. The GM called me a couple days later to ask what happened. I said I went somewhere else upon her managers advice, found a better deal, so I bought their car. I said your manager could have taken my check and waited until it cleared before I took the car. She apologized and said she would be having a 'thinking outside of the box' meeting with her staff.
All dealers suck, I try to buy from individuals when I can. I went to a dealer after seeing a used truck, it was a Chevy 1500 truck. I asked if 4500 would buy it out the door. Asking price was 4995. Drove up to drive it. It was a pretty good truck, went to pay , they told me it would be 4800 plus taxes and fees. Bringing total to 5400, I said , that I was told , 4500 out the door would buy it. They sales manager said “ no way” so I left, they called me a couple days later, said, they could take the 4500, it felt good to say” nope”😃
@@clintdavis4886 Not 'all' dealers suck, but good ones are rare, and difficult to find. I've only known of ONE, that was Summit Ford in New Jersey, but that was back in 1990, so things might have changed. The rest, yes, have all sucked.
I really wish I had the knowledge and confidence to buy a good used card from an private party. It just overwhelms me. I'm terrified of finding out later than I got screwed and buyer's remorse is a huge problem for me. Mostly irrational, I'm sure, but it's the truth.
You can hire a mechanic you trust to do a pre-purchase inspection for between $150-200. There are companies that specialize in this and will give you a thorough report.
I believe that lol. Car dealers do nothing as a courtesy. One jerk charged Melbourne $90.00, to install a couple 12 volt batteries, and of course the A--hole friend of mine sold cars for 25 yrs and basically said: Ron, when have U known a dealer to do anything for free , well I wouldn't of MInded fairness let's say 40 bucks, but the service writer even put on shop fees10 dollars approx. Needless I've been doing g my own work now in the summer
I currently work for a dealership and bought a 99 F250 diesel for 8 grand, its been working amazingly so far. Ultimately you need to know what you want, what your looking for, is reliability important to you? Do research on the vehicle.
15 years ago I went to a used car lot. They didn’t want to entertain the idea. I was “too young”. So I went to the Dodge dealer. Bought a new truck for a few thousand more than the used one. I added the full lifetime warranty and across the 15 years they didn’t make a penny off the truck. 300k miles later I still have it and it runs great. Haven’t had a payment in 12 years. Sometimes we gotta share the good stories too. Not everything is a horror show.
Unfortunately you don’t build much credit without upgrading to a new car every 6-7yrs and the value of the vehicle goes down a ton. By the time you need a new car your going to get raked by apr
@@texasnyghtmare that's not exactly true. My credit hovers between 770 and 800. I haven't bought a new car but once in my life. But I have a mortgage and my three revolving credit cards, and my private student loan payments, I am more than enough to keep my credit steady. About three months ago I started looking for a new car, and the APR was much lower than I have expected it to ever be.
@Hector Ramirez ? He is a mechanic that is the point lol a dealership where the mechanics are selling the cars? And you can take it back to the mechanic if it isn’t right? Does that sound worse than a car salesman selling you a car?
i have my dealer license but no big car lot like those sketchy guys. i DO NOT get my cars for 30-50% of what i sell it for, no way. a huge win for me is making 25% over what i paid. i work on all the cars myself and it’s a lot of work. I never sell a car that’s got “hidden” problems because my worst nightmare is a customer coming back with complaints. i want my cars to work more than the buyer does. ive had a passion for cars since my teens. please know there are still good people out there, but the industry is swarming with sketchballs.
There are good small "pre-owned" cars for sale from family owned car lots. Look for those people, they need the income for their family and are much more willing to be honest. Their business of staying in business depends on it.
I’m 20 and I worked for a shady used car lot and I just got my own license because I was not cut out for the lie and hide game. I much rather have happy customers over a little extra money in my pocket any day of the week
@@dialecticalmonist3405it’s risk, whether they are new or used. You gotta be a due diligent as you can, do the research and then take it on if you feel it’s good enough
Dealers get the vehicle history, the Carfax, the listing paperwork the cleaning, sometimes the fixing, detailing, paying for employee's. Who pays for that the customer does. It should be included in the price but some keep the price low and charge that fee afterwards.
I used be an independent used car dealer as well as an employee for a few used car lots before going out on my own, the cars I bought and sold were inexpensive $3500 on average give or take. Before getting into that business I considered myself an honorable person, my thing was I would pick out the best cars I could, I'd check them out as best I could and if they needed work or an inspection sticker I'd always do it and lastly a full detail. 80 percent of the buyers would question my integrity at some point during a sale even though I just had the car inspected and or fixed, some of them still didn't believe it or most likely anything I said. They're reason was because the last couple cars they bought turned out to be lemons, I understood it. What could I say?
Don’t give up your integrity for those that didn’t trust your work. God always has a way to provide for you and your loved ones. Jesus Christ is the holiest name.
@@iinrodwetrust unfortunately or fortunately I'm not in the car business at the moment, I'm a car person just not doing it as a job. Because of that there's a lot less stress, what kind of a car are you considering? Is this your first car?
@@irocitZ 3rd used car but the car I currently have has a lot of hidden issues that couldn’t be detected when I went to buy it. I plan on purchasing a 2014-2020. I’m extremely weary of the same thing happening again especially with a vehicle like this.
I don't tell them anything, any more. Just hand them the keys and tell them to go have it inspected and either buy it or don't. It's just an old used truck. Not worth enough for me to lie about and certainly not worth enough to argue with people over.
I'm a tech at a dealership and we have all these "Certified" used cars which meant our lube techs who get paid 13 dollars an hour change the oil and maybe the wiper blades if needed. Such a scam it's sickening
@@juano.9280 literally, and I bet their job is far harder. . . just like now I'm about to work from home for around 20 bucks an hour, before that I worked at little caesars as a closing manager and a dough maker and my thought the entire time was "why am I working here for 11 dollars an hour when I could get paid to do an easier, much more enjoyable job?!?!?"
I worked for a used dealer here in Memphis 2 years ago . They would sell cars with trans going out , motor knocking and tell customers it was exhaust leaks . The list goes on and on . I can’t tell you how many cars we went and picked up off the side of the expressway 10-30 min after someone bought it . I just couldnt do that to people so I quit soon after starting
@@laurieparker1414 If you think the USA is the source of the worlds greed you're not paying attention lol. It's EVERYWHERE and it's always ALWAYS the people telling you they care.
I took Scotty’s advice from another video that he did about buy a car at a Rental Agency. Never pay full price, stayed within my budget, and they sell you the car as is. Only thing wrong was it was missing was the floor mats and the cigarette lighter fuse was out. No big deal because this car was a Toyota Corolla with. 60,000 miles. I am only going to use it for Rideshare and I can get part for it cheap no problem. Same 1.8 motor they have been using, only thing that changes is the body style from generation. Pretty sure there’s other minor differences, but it’s Toyota. They just build on what works. Wasn’t the best deal, but wasn’t the worst deal so it was in between.
I'm a reconditioning associate at CarMax, I really don't understand how they're able to sell cars at these egregious prices. I've seen cars sell for $20,000 that had 100k+ miles. The price gouging is just ridiculous.
@@PersistentPatriot Pretty much that. I also see it mostly as rich people just looking for convenience over cost efficiency, which obviously they're not gonna care about. Suckers gonna suck.
My car just died on Friday, so I am suddenly in the market. The price disparities I have been seeing are absolutely shocking. I expect to overpay for any car I may decide to purchase due to our current economy, but there is a huge difference in overpaying a thousand or a couple over and in paying $10,000 or more over. Anyone who is buying outrageously priced cars without doing significant research online first is squandering today's biggest advantage. At the recommendation of a friend, I went to a car lot today and found it to be a waste of time. The cars there were all overpriced compared to what I have found online. The next time I go out looking, I will have identified the specific cars of interest in advance, and then I will _only_ go to the lots where those cars are located to see if they are worth buying. I may end up driving all over the city just to look at three or four cars, but at least I will know what I am looking for.
@@eligreg99 That would be nice, but the past two years changed everything. I ended up buying a 2010 Honda Pilot with 129,000 MI for $13.3k out the door, which actually turned out to be a good deal considering all of my criteria. This inflation thing we have going on is no joke.
One of the things I kept hearing after joining the U.S. Navy is "Do not buy a car at a car dealership close to base. They'll know you're in the service and know you get paid every 1st and 15th and will milk you for everything you're worth." Lo and behold people do just that and are paying way more than the average Joe...
I had a dealership sell one of my E-2s $10,000 rims for a car he didn’t have. Had to get him out of the deal immediately. What kind of scumbag rips off a kid serving his country? Turns out they’re all over the place.
I started out buying my cars at the wrecking yard for years. The best one was a Rav4 2000. I drove it for years working for USDA. I changed the oil, etc. Never had any problems. I invested my savings into my retirement. I found Toyota's were the best. When I retired I bought a 2017 Toyota Corolla from Hertz with around 30 thousand miles for $13,800.00. I have serviced it well, and had Toyota change the transmission fluid at 60 thousand. Usually change my own oil & filter myself, but at 84 I'm slowing down. I like Toyota and Hertz worked for me! I paid cash. If I was younger I would of bought a later Toyota with the better CVT first gear, but I ran out of time! Thanks for your advise Scotty. You have saved me a lot of money!
My Dad is a retired mechanic and i swear you guys sound like twins!!!😊 This sound mechanical advice has saved me hundreds of dollars over the years & Labor.
So how do i even frking find people selling cars for that cheep just ask rsndom people in Neiberhoods? Facebook ebay like how are u finding all these people selling vars for that low
I had a Ford with 3 year warranty and I bought the genuine Ford extra 3 year warranty for a total of 6 years factory warranty. After the first 3 years every time I took it back for a warranty claim they would tell me that it wasn’t covered under their extended warranty. I would tell them that no, it wasn’t the dealership warranty it was the factory Ford warranty. “Oh, I that case it’s covered” and they would fix it for free but boy it showed me how useless those dealership extended warranties are because nothing I took it in for was covered. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
I bought a Kia Carnival 2nd hand from a dealer and took out their “extended warranty”. A few months later it started running on five cylinders, and i could see (at night) one of the spark plug leads arcing all over the place. Apparently spark plug leads are not covered by the warranty because “spark plug leads are not electrical”. Work that one out!
@@richardhill2643 yep, not worth the paper they’re written on. At least it was just a lead and not a coil pack or computer. You’d think they would replace a simple lead out of good will. Oh wait, we’re talking about used car dealers, stupid me.
Yep, ONLY buy an automaker branded extended warranty. The aftermarket ones are complete utter garbage. They only cover the exact things written on the paper, and they will weasel out by saying the failure was caused by an uncovered part. And if you do miraculously get something covered, it's hell to get reimbursed.
@@bluejar5614 it's not against the law because if you sign it then you're on the hook. And if you're in a state that has laws that limit dealership fees; then they will just tack on dealership extras, addons, extended warranties, paint protection, etc...which is legal everywhere.
Overpay is something I don't do thanks to my dad taking me with him to buy cars. My wife won't go with me anymore. She says she feels sorry for the salesperson. They inevitably tell me, "I'm not going to make any money on this deal," (uh huh) or they just get outright angry. I always end up saying, "No one is forcing you to sell it to me," or, "There are a lot of other places I can buy a car." Thanks, dad!
I research prices and options a lot......like 6 months' worth. Most dealerships hate me, cause i walk away or i tell them what I'll be paying. Thats out the door too.
My response to guys like you is You don't have to buy it, and, feel free to go elsewhere. Of course it's easier for me since A, I own my inventory and B, I make a point of undercutting everyone's prices from the start.
Yea I sold cars for 3 years and loved but would never buy a car because I love working on my vehicles and maintaining them. Honestly most cars don’t last because the owners don’t do the preventative maintenance. I drive a 96 Toyota RAV4 and it’s got 198,000 and some miles and runs perfect because I keep up the maintenance. I’m not stuck paying a car payment every month which Saves a ton of money.
@@StrongerThanBigfoot I recently bought a 87 S10 with the V6. Had the transmission rebuilt for 1200$. Great work truck that came with a high weight suspension and a lumber rack.
I lucked out with last two cars. First was a church lady’s car. She drove it 3 times a week average: to her church, grocery store and Drs appts. After 12 years, she had driven 37,000 miles. Car was also parked under a canopy when not in use. Best $1500 ever. Car still running after a mere 145,000. There was an episode of electrical issue, but that was fixed with a new wiring harness. All trouble codes disappeared. Of more recent, a grandpa car. It was driven much more, as these grandparents drove the Continental 48, visiting their grandchildren. At 13 years, this vehicle had 222,000. But at $1800, too good to pass up. 5 speed 4 cyl., been a great car.
That is me now with my 2004 honda acura...bought it last year for 1800.00 with 80000 miles on it -- a 19 year old suv with only 80000 miles on it???? Yup. Put 100,000 of my own miles on it this last year...60 hwy miles per day round trip for work. And now...2 weeks ago -- after a transmission fluid flush -- i know, I know...never again -- the transmission stopped on the hwy. Towed it to my place. Replacing the transmission fluid filter up front under the battery first...then the main transmission solenoid switcher...and see what happens. I'd rather take a shot with some of these smaller interconnected parts instead of just dumping a whole new rebuilt tranny in it. watching many utubes on my transmission topic the past few days and seeing signs of hope. I have started my SUV 2 days in a row now...when...after a few minutes of the engine warming up...I can actually drive the SUV a few feet ahead and a few feet in reverse...so something outside the norm is going on here.
I bought from a dealer for the first time they asked 8 grand and got 9 grand after taxes and fees. The car fax shows the oil changes AT THAT DEALER for 16 years.....
Best deal I ever got was a 1991 toyota corolla with 83,000 miles on it for $850. Bought her in 2016, found her on craigslist was listed for $750. When I contacted the lady to look at the car she said I could look at the car in like 4 days because she had all these people already lined up to look at the car. I told her I would give her $850 if I liked the car. I looked at and test drove the car that afternoon. I instantly bought the car, was even garage kept with a cover on it. Unbelievably clean car to this day, best backup vehicle ever and is exempt from inspection in NJ.
Didn’t luck up, Dad always recommended used rental cars as value propositions. Car Fax is more than likely to have their history correct. The cars are usually in warranty or just out and there is no deterrence from the rental agency to get required repairs done. The normal oil changes, maintenance items are taken care of and on time. Private individuals are goofballs about getting regular maintenance accomplished. Also Dad new what he was talking about more than Scotty or anyone on this forum. He Hotrodded cars before Scotty was born, several family members are in the used car business as Owners for years. Dad “floor planned” used car dealers, he built the house we lived house from ground up. He built all of the furniture in the house, he rebuild all of the cars which all ran for over 200K before mom demanded upgrades. When he got older and tired of rebuilding cars, he only bought Toyotas. Finally due to smart decisions he retired at 45 and never went to work again. Conclusion, I always follow his advice rather than listen to some of the dumb advice that exist on forums (Rental cars are usually fine and represent a relative bargain until everyone catches on)
When I drive a rental car I take care of it as if it was my own vehicle for a few reasons: 1. I don't want to be charged for damaging the car. 2. I have formed a habit in my life of respecting the property of others and treating expensive things with care. 3. I don't want to drive a dirty broken vehicle during the time that I am using it. I also turn off the light in a hotel room when I leave because I don't want to waste energy even though I am not paying for it.
Do your home work before purchasing a used car. You're looking for a one owner vehicle with less than 50K on the odometer. I found such a vehicle and even tracked down the original owner. This car sat on the used car lot for eight months before I purchased it. The car came from an dealer only auction and sold for $7850. The dealership listed it for $16550 and each month it came down in price. I purchased it for $9950 that was two years ago. Since this purchase I have done routine maintenance and replaced the tires.
@@richsweeney1115 It depends on your driving.. At one point, for 11yrs, I had a daily 160 mile commute, not including other normal driving. You want to start, as low as financially possible, mileage wise.
This is not just good advice for cars, it's damn entertaining. This is one of the best TH-cam channels, period. I'm about to binge the hell out of this channel.
In Australia, car dealerships must advertise the total "drive away" price. They're also liable for any claims about the vehicle. If a vehicle has been in a crash, bu the dealership claims it hasn't been in one, then the dealership is liable. They can't pass on the blame to anyone else.
Thank you Scotty for your honesty, and you're right about the extended warranty. I purchased a warranty from CarShield paid them for approx. 5 months, maybe 6, then my 2008 Enclave just quit while I was driving, had to have it towed home, called CarShield they told me to have it towed to any repair place of my choice and have them called them after the diagnostic was done. Well after they diagnostic was done (the dealership used some many technical terms for what was wrong) instead of just saying the vehicle needed another motor which they charged $8,000.00 to rebuild the motor and CarShield said those exact words as you said. I ended up paying for the tow to and from the dealership, CarShield didn't even pay for that. I'll never get another car warranty in this lifetime, they'll all full of SHYT. They'll take your money but when it's time for them to honor their contract they'll have excuses galore to why they can't honor the contract and don't refund your money.You're just A** out.
I used to live in Oregon & there's a vintage car dealer that's been in business for 40 years. He's very honest unlike most of them, he tells you what he pays for his cars. How many dealers do that ?? He's the only one I know because he's honest. He deals in cars of the 30's to the 90's. He also has a buy back policy he will buy the car back for what he paid for it.
My problem with buying private, is that people are flakes. I bought my current car about 3 months ago, and I was really trying to get one privately. I contacted 23 sellers. Only 5 returned my call/text/email. 3 of those 5 did not respond to follow-up questions. Of the 2 that did, 1 was still worth looking at. When I showed up to look at it, it was not the way the seller had previously described it. I ended up getting a great deal on my Volvo from a consignment auction. My advice is to learn how to evaluate a car as is. You can never really trust a car's history. We all have secrets. So do cars.
If you put in the time, you can track the VIN of any car online from dealer to owners to dealer. How does Carmax do it? Well, they give you 30 days to take the car home and examine it, play with it, lick it, whatever and will give you your money back if you don’t like it for any reason. And yes, they actually give you your money back. Their prices are usually by the book and their dealer fee is a whopping 45 bucks or whatever the cost is from the license office. Getting a good price comes down to playing with the years and mileage and finding a car loaded with the options. Carmax values cars based on 1) Age 2) Mileage. Look for older year models with low mileage and loaded options to get a good price.
I got lucky. My used enterprise car salesman was honest and we were both Catholics he was white ,I am black. Bought a 2020 countryman. 15 months later , we still friends
My brother bought a vehicle at a Ford dealer. The warranty was extra. A year later, there was a problem. Turns out the warranty didn't cover anything electrical or anything that bears friction. In other words, the warranty was worth less than the ink it took to print the darned thing.
“Anything that bears friction” sheesh that’s literally almost, if not, everything in the car. Wind hitting your car when driving creates friction, heat radiation creates friction. lol crazy!
I worked for a dealership for 2 months because I felt so bad that their "required Shottenkirk Care Package" added $3000 to the price of the car. What did it include? Nitrogen air for tires, chip repair in the windshield, 1 key fob replacement and flat tire repair (not replacement). The dealer required this for ALL customers!!! I couldn't sleep.
Just tried to buy a Truck from a Shottenkirk dealership. Was priced very good. Found out once I got there that there was a "Recondition" fee - $2500. Spent a while trying to get a good price. If they would have just dropped that I would have bought it. If it's required put it in the fracking internet price.
Back in 2005 I walked out of a Mazda dealership because they wouldn’t stop adding fees and mandatory “packages”. They had the color, the trim, and the transmission I wanted. I stood up after three times threatening it and they said to me as I was walking out “You wouldn’t have bought anyway!” So the next day after buying a 2006 Jetta 2.5L with the 5sp manual, bigger interior, better initial build quality for $2k less and an extra $1500 for my trade (it lasted me 13 yrs and 225k miles) I drove it to the Mazda dealership acting like I was ready and just wanted them to come outside and see my trade in again, I showed them the VW and said, “looks like I was ready to buy after all !?” The manager actually apologized, but it was too late.
I bought a 1999 Toyota Corolla from a Rental company. It lasted me 500,000kms and 10 years. I never had a single issue with the car except a new $250 starter. Everything worked by the time I got rid of it just because at 27 I was too cool for a Corolla. But it was the best car I ever owned maintenance and reliability wise.
Yep. Every car i've had thats been low maintenance and worry free is used cars with minimal frills. The less gadgets they have on them, the less that can break or go wrong. As long as you took care of them those used oldies with a regular transmission, crank windows, and a radio had very few things go wrong with them. It's always rust that takes down cars here which is the only thing prevents you driving those old gems forever. Throw too much road salt in the winters to every hope to get them to last much longer than 15-20 years passed new around here
I am amazed at Scotty's content and expertise, but more than that, the way he keeps up with his sign language as he speaks. Amazing, just doesn't cover it. EXTRAORDINARY !
Look in other places like my best place to buy them at is San Antonio texas cars don’t ever have rust unless they came from winter states but you will see the rust fast enough
The "chip shortage" is artificially created. You realize that, right. Automakers colluded to invent this, so they could choke off the supply of new vehicles and raise prices. And don't get me started on the baby formula shortage. That was an attempt at depopulation. You don't hear about all the millions of infants who starved to death because of it, as that would be inconvenient news for the masses to hear.
I respect you and know you speak truth but I bought a used 2007 Dodge Magnum in 2008 from a dealership who told me it was a rental. She had 15,000 miles when I got her and 175,000 when I let her go. I had her for 14 years with hardly any problems or major repairs. The only damage when I got her was a blown rear speaker. A lot of rentals are trash but she was a diamond in the rough.
I definitely lean toward buying from an individual but you'd better be quick and have cash in hand because every time that I see something well maintained it sells quick.
The first car that I bought win 1959 was a 1954 Ford from a large dealer's used car lot in Houston. It looked clean and seemed to run good and my dad thought it would be a good car for my first. Well it being in Houston the windows were all rolled down and when I went to roll them up that night I found that it had no windows as they had all been broken out. I learned a valuable lesson to never trust any used car dealer. Fortunately Houston had lots of junk yards to get replacement windows from and they were cheap in the those days. Unfortunately I did not make much money with which to buy them.
1950s . I can picture the dealer telling you something really Texan like, " get to stepping" with a shotgun in his hand.... if you returned to protest about the windows. LOL
Had a coworker get a car from a dealership that was "certified" used. They was selling it for 20k off the lot 25k financed. He told them he has 12k to buy it. They tried everything in the book to finance it. Even try to finance it for 2k fee. Which means they'll let it go for 14k. He said either you get 12k or ill go to a competitor. Yea....they sold a 20k priced vehicle for 12k. Basically, you as the consumer always have the upper hand. They have the vehicles, you have the money. Try and guess which one is more important? Ill wait.....
I once got a car selling for $34k down to $22k. Didn't want to test drive the car, way over budget, salesman was like drive it and if you like it we can talk. Drove away in the car that evening.
Yeah I went to a Honda dealer and I swear those guys thought their own farts smelled like vanilla. I walked away because their asking price on a 6 year old Civic was insane. They called back 3 days later. They always call back.
My dad was an honest, hard working car salesman who was great with people and really tried to do his best to get people the best cars with the best service. He did not do nearly as well as the guys who just wanted to push cars off the lot. It's so fucked up how that works
One of your best videos Scott! The other reason Carmax does so well is their “no haggle” pricing. People just don’t know how to haggle and are either intimidated by the process or just lazy. Thanks again for all your content and keep up the good work!
Before we bought our Ranger in 2004, we went to CarMax to look at an advertised Ranger. It was a two year old standard cab, no options but A/C, with over 20k miles and it was $12,600. They insisted that was their best price. We bought a brand new 2004 Ranger, extended cab with optional towing package, for $13,500. I've no idea how CarMax gets customers.
Car max gets customers for one reason…. They advertise and are very public that their sales people don’t get commission. We studied them in business school and learned that their business model is based on a study showing millennials and gen z will happily pay 3-4k MORE to not feel uncomfortable, pressured, or have to negotiate / assert themselves.
In Europe, the car rental companies are all suspect. I've been stung twice with them claiming I had scratched the car, when I returned them. It got to the stage where, if I have to hire a car, I photograph EVERY INCH OF THE CAR, including the interior before I drive away. Same story when I return it. I have seen the staff treat tourists abominably in their offices at the airport. Adding charges and dodging ANY sort of liability. Shameful. And, they also try to scam you if they've asked for a deposit for a child seat or whatever. They'll try to give you less than you paid if you're not paying attention. 😝
After you photograph the inside and outside of rental car, and drive away. What to say someone bumps into your rental at the market or some punk scratches it after you take the car??
Thank you so much for all the videos, Scotty! I bought my first car, a 2003 Pontiac Sunfire for super cheap at a private seller that explained to me the problems it had and because of your videos, I managed to fix my yellow grandma and she is all taken care of. Of course she is old and has a big millage over the years, but thanks to your tricks and tips, she will run for as many years as I can stretch her to do so. Now I am able to take good care of her like the previous owner did and continue with the work! You're a hero, man!!!
Bought a nearly new 2017 Elantra from a Toyota dealer, was ex-rental car. Paid just under $11,000. At the time had over 40,000 miles which had been covered in just 18 months. My son now owns it, has over 100,000 miles. Had zero problems and gets excellent mpg. Guess I got lucky.......
Dealers sometimes have “loaner cars” or “demo cars” that they give out to clients while their primary is in the shop. There’s a huge difference between that an a Hertz rental that gets handed out to joe 6 pack. If you’re borrowing a car from the mechanic you have a relationship with, you’re probably taking care of it and just driving to work with it.
@@jaysmith179 yes its quite common lol. The transmissions in that hyundais aren't good either. Hyundai is a terrible car. When I worked for carmax last year for a short period. I saw a Kia in the tech bay with its guts out. Either the engine or transmission was being replaced.
@@jackyack7850 Yeah, but those loaner cars are always low end. When my Camry was being worked on they gave me some piece of junk, Corolla LE or whatever is worse. It was junk but low miles.
Thanks Scotty I have adopted you as my Dad. My real father is a mechanic for 40 years, who never taught me anything about anything. I lost $5000 buying shitty vehicles last year.
Certified pre-owned cars must have everything that came with vehicle new, like two key fobs and a valet key, the owners manual, floor mats and trunk liner, and the factory spare tire.
i got a VW certified pre-owned Passat 29k miles, it listed everything that was checked and what was done. and it came with like a 20k mile warranty i think it was. 3 1/2 years and 80k miles later and still going strong. 💗
I have never bought a bad used car. But, I have a few rules: 1) it needs to be a car with a reputation for reliability; 2) it needs to be from a private original or second owner; 3) the seller needs to be a facially responsible person of the sort who takes care of what they own: and, 4) there needs to be nothing obviously wrong with the car at the time I buy it, including bad tires or brakes or excessive smoking. Follow these rules and your chance of getting burned is low.
I'm currently the second owner of a former Hertz rental (2012 Corolla) It's been a fantastic car over the last 5 years, and likely will be fantastic for another 5 years as well
I can vouch. In 2018 I bought a used 2015 Corolla with 22,000 miles and a clean car fax for $14,400 from a dealer. The car had definitely rear ended another at low speed. Popping the hood I saw one of the headlight mounts was cracked and the bumper cover had a couple split eyehole mounts which had been secured to the body with non factory bolts. I got lucky though, the car is paid off, has 140k on it and runs like a top.
@@blowfly420 Only issues I've ever had was one rear wheel bearing needed to be replaced and the gas cap stopped sealing all the away which threw an EVAP leak code. Up to 150k miles now, she still runs great.
I own a used car lot, and what Scotty is saying is true about some car lots...but not all. I grew up in this business, I went to Tech school and I'm a mechanic, We deal in 10-20 year old cars, and there's one important difference in us and at least some other lots, especially those selling older cars...we repair our cars before selling them. Also we don't make anywhere near 2-3 times what we pay for them. When we look for cars to buy, it’s possible to find older cars with no major problems, but you'll never find 10-20 year old cars with no minor problems. They need wheel bearings, window motors, batteries, radiators, tires, brakes, interior work, have check engine lights, etc. etc. etc. Each car doesn't need all those things, but all cars need some of them. We fix what we find wrong before we sell them. Sometimes it takes weeks to get them finished. It's not easy but we can offer a reliable $4-6 thousand dollar car. Sometimes we'll repair a half-dozen things on one, I'll test drive it home several times, and finally, we'll be satisfied with it...runs and drives good, stops good, no lights on the dash, smooth on the highway, no further issues. We'll offer it for sale, and a customer will come drive this $5000 car, come back and say "I don't want it, the radio speaker balance is off" or something like that. We just facepalm and go back to work.
Hey Scotty, bought myself a running 1967 Mustang with a K-code 289 engine with minimal body work needed. I absolutely fleeced the seller and got it for 8 grand. Your videos throughout the years helped me learn to fix it myself. Thanks for saving my wallet to support my dream hobby!
Working at a Toyota dealership, SCOTTY is telling the truth ! Crazy how he found out 😂 those are some crazy kept secret. Sometimes we get trade in especially now take a picture put it online, then someone try’s to come buy it . We sell it wash it and never even look at the condition of the car . Just polish it up spray paint the bottom And BOOM! CERTIFIED LIKE NEW 🤣. A week later they come in with an engine problem and service says oh use the extended warranty and then they get denied for a replacement 😅
theres one of these "certified" Toyota used car places by me...i went around the back of the shop and they had 3 totalled cars that they had obviously bought for peanuts that would have been shiny new on the forecourt next month
@@brooksteer5629 i live in Thailand ..this was a toyota s/h plac with the certified signs everywhere...buyin cars here..nobody ever has the service history...repairing cars is cheap due to labour costs being so low...thais are all about the shiny paint rather than whether its been totalled or the km turned back
I used to work at Hyundai for a year and this is absolutely true, we bought cars for 1 Dollar and sold them B2B for 500 dollars, and other used cars we sold were also above most people's expectations
I spent a short time writing sub prime loans and those with the worst credit usually pay the highest price, both on the sticker and on the payout. Also, certain dealers were known to inflate prices. Most people don't read what they are signing and that's on them.
The problem with buying from a private party now is how few of them there are. There used to be a huge supply of private party 15 to 30 years ago. It seems like people don’t want strangers coming to their house anymore or deal with the scammers. I hate paying sales tax with a dealer but sometimes you are just forced to go that route, but at least check the kbb private value and only buy from a dealer that is close or at that price. You will be surprised at some of the deals you can get from a dealer
In California you have to pay tax on a used car from a private party. So they got tax from the first purchase, and continue to charge tax every time another person buys it
I wouldn't buy a expensive car from a unknown seller, due to risk and safety reasons. Dealers offer financing also. Check their reputation and ratings online first.
I bought a used car from a Ford dealership. It had only 3200 miles and was a 2015 Titanium Focus with every upgrade possible. But it was put into service in 2016. So the factory warranty was from June 2016 to June 2019. Since it was still under its factory warranty; I extended it with a Ford ESP for 8 years. So now it's under a Ford warranty (not dealership). I only paid $12,000 for a car that originally was $23,000. But the dealer couldn't sell it because it was October 2018 and the car was 3 years old, (the owner's estate had sold it back to the dealer). So I got a good deal from a Ford dealer and ended up with a beautiful car that runs great and still looks new and is under a Ford ESP until 2024.
Some years ago I picked up a rusty 1987 Ford escort with 60,000 miles on it at a used car dealership for $800. I got over 100,000 trouble free miles out of that piece of junk before the head gasket failed.
I just got a 2022 civic Sport and as soon as I get to the Senior Finance Manager in the back he gladly explained ALL the benefits of cosmetic, mechanical plans, GAP, you name it that cost thousands for x amount of years and after he said all that, I just kindly said "no thank you" and he literally flipped, changed his attitude. He even became sarcastic and said that "you'll probably end up breaking the car and needing that GAP" and I smiled and signed everything-he just showed me the door angrily that he didn't make commission
I worked at a mechanics shop for a few years. I worked in the office. I dealt with the customers, making sure they knew the prices, also know what they were getting. Shop bought some vehicles and put them to street legal and essentially stock or improved over original design. Customers who bought them, usually came back for a second purchase from the shop. I made a commission for each sale, but never did shady deals to make myself or the shop liable.
Thank you for the great advise Scotty. In 2016, the company I was working for started offering a vehicle allowance, but required you to have or purchase a vehicle that was no more than five model years old. I needed a reliable car quick, but I didn’t want to pay an arm and a leg. I bought a 2014 Toyota Corolla from Hertz with ~30k miles on it for ~12k. That was more than I would’ve paid had I bought it used from a private party, but still significantly cheaper than I would’ve paid for a “Certified Preowned” Corolla from a Toyota dealership here in Houston 🤘🏽It’s still my daily driver and has around 150k miles on it now. Zero problems. It was a great purchase.
I used to work at a lincoln dealer that rented cars at a different location. They would sell them at 25000 miles. Had to prep them for their used car lot and all of them had their original oil in them. FActory painted oil filter.
Every car I've ever owned came from private sellers and I've never once been disappointed. about 15 years ago I bought a litttle 1990 Mazda Protégé for $400. I changed the oil and fluids and drove that thing everywhere for nearly 6 years.
We love you, Scotty, for what you teach us. Getting someone to check out the vehicle will not only let you know something bad, but also something good. The seller didn't tell me that he just put a knew trans in it. I was able to talk him down a little letting him know it needs knew tires and something else minor, but letting him know he had a good vehicle here worth something. He let me have the price I wanted. It was a chevy Suburban. Good car for long family trips, but the trans did go out and I found out that the trans on these things go out about every 100,000 miles and that one didn't make it and I am not an abusive driver. I am learning from you Scotty and I like Toyotas. Planning to get one soon again, since I have had been in the 2 wrecks totaled by reckless drivers within 2 years. The last one was my Toyota 4runner. Loved that thing. It worked just fine. We loaded her down for a camping trip to the mountains and back.
I did buy a SUV from Hertz recently ( broke my own rule) but it was a current model year vehicle that had been in service for ~6 months and had 19K miles on it. I figured it spent a lot of time on the highway, so not a hard city use case. Had it checked out by a mechanic and 3 years later, it has been trouble free.
That was a lease vehicle bought at auction sold by hertz. How do I know? Cuz I work for their competitor and we also do that, it’s the only way we get low mileage vehicles that are under 30k. But yeah buying a used vehicle from a rental place is not at all a bad idea.
Joe Saboto; Hello. I have often thought of buying my "next" vehicle from a Rental Car company such as Hertz or Avis, etc. for the simple reason that I know that myself when I have rented a car (Usually via Sears Rental Cars, years ago) I have treated that Rental car much better than my own P.O.V. --- why? Because I did NOT want to get 'dinged" by their inspection checker when I returned the rental and pay a "fine" or a "fee". I assume that many other customers of Rental Car companies think the same way. Thankfully, I have not needed to buy a new (newer) vehicle because my 1993 Chevy 3/4 ton, V-8, 4x4 is still functioning. YAY! 🙂
@@gusloader123 they are maintained very well. As they have to be. Fun fact, if you go look at a 1-3 year old vehicle at any other dealer the vehicle was most likely a rental anyways. They get their stock from us. They could not survive on their lease returns. Buying a rental vehicle in my opinion is the way to go.
@@gusloader123 i'm the same...when i rent a car, i make sure to be careful in it because i don't want to get dinged, either. on the other hand, my brother-in-law does donuts and other vile crap to his rentals. some people are just a-holes.
I worked for a dealership in Arizona for a long time, and the video above is 10000000000000000% correct. The dealership is in business to screw you up, especially if you are buying used. Pay a little more for monthly payments on a brand-new car, and run away from used cars. There are two huge culprits that you should not even go to their dealership... CARMAX, and CARVANA.
@@Rurike They steal your car with a fixed price and their cars that they do sell are 4-5k more than any other dealer.....it's for people with bad credit. They will take anyone.
All of the things scotty has mentioned in this video are true, and they are also true when dealing with private individuals. With private individuals instead of adding on fees they will tend to think it's worth 1k+ more than its worth Always get a pre purchase inspection
Especially these days. Everyone has heard that "used cars are worth more than new" and price with that thought in their heads. I'm sure there are deals out there, but you've got to be lucky or do a lot of driving around, seeing what's available offline hoping you're in a large enough town to find what you want. Ultimately no seller is obligated to sell for what the buyer thinks is fair. There are a lot of stupid thoughts out there on both sides of the buyer/seller aisle!
@@ashfordj81 Yep private sales are for people with patience and knowledge, you might go thru 15025 people to finally find "the old lady selling her corolla shes driven for 5k miles a year for 1k under blue book" then the engine breaks because she never once got an oil change
@@LibsareTRASH Not every person is a mechanic, and some who think they are do check nearly as throughly as they think they do.~$100 is a pretty small fee to pay. Its like why pay anyone to do anything ever
I rented from an agency. Within 24 hours, I'm driving on highway, go to adjust rear view mirror, it comes off. I reported it straightaway and when I returned it, a fewweeks later, I get a letter, they tried charging me. Fortunately, I glread em the riot act. Many takeaways, one for sure :Always take footage of every inch of a rental before you drive it off the lot and get the name of the rep who did the walk-around and gave you the keys.
I've bought used before. I'm an electro-mechanical technician. I work on industrial machinery. I have a good eye. My most recent buy was a 2012 BMW 335i. I bought it even though it was a theft. But first, I drove it. I personally inspected it from top to bottom. Checked everything. It still had the plastics on the bottom, fully intact. It ran as smooth as a brand-new car. Everything worked electronically. It is heavily optioned. It was as is, no warranty. It had 28k on the odometer. I always take a good sniff of the exhaust and it smelled lovely. No oil burning. The inside of the exhaust pipes were clean as they should be. A little drip of water at idles every once in a while, is a great sign. Paint inside the engine bay and on the frame was all consistent. All plug wires were consistently aged. Every bolt head I can see showed no signs of being removed. Oil pan and intake pan seals intact, no leaks. No smell of gasoline at all. Brake pads all consistently worn. All brake discs consistent. Computer shows nothing wrong. Water in radiator overfill tank nice and clean. I'm sure I'm missing some things, but you can find a good deal if you know what to look for. Today the car has 139k on the odometer and still runs like new.
@@brettcannon74 I've bought 2 used bmw's. So, I guess that says a whole lot about me. You must know me like the back of your hand just by my buying used bmw's.
The fine print on most of those extended warranties also says "If a wearable part damages a non-wearable part, it's not covered". I refused to get the extended warranties, and let me tell you, the car dealerships treat you like hot garbage when you turn down all of that extra garbage they try to tack on.
Years ago I was friends with a man who owned a used dealership. He provided a "nationwide" warranty. I saw this same name warranty at all the other dealers. I wrongly presumed it meant "buy it, I'm covered" He privately told me basically it's to cover a bare minimum (things most people wouldn't bother trying to claim) and major blowouts aren't covered. You need to know whether or not it's what you want. My friend also showed me a few of the magic tricks used to make old tired look fresh and new, and he only did the minimum level of hiding problems he just made the interior and tires. Since that time I've learned that (corner lot "dealers" (flippers) Hide all kinds of problems like Scotty describes. Power wash off the evidence of the excessive oil leaks, oil additives to hide engine noise, etc. hide the evidence that the steering rack is pretty much toast etc You buy it very inflated prices then in a month or two you take it for service then the magic oil they used is swapped out for the standard stuff, your battery turns out to be soon done, the tires just squeaked past safety and of course that clank when you close your door turns out to be from a collision, and it's not "need adjust buddy, no problem" 'the car body is warped, why'd you buy this junker' (I'm exaggerating a little but definitely seen it in real life)
I bought a used car from Renton Honda in Seattle area. I was told if I don't get the extended warranty, I can't get the best finance rate. I was young back then and didn't know better so I paid the $1k for the extended warranty on a $10k car. Even "reputable dealers" are shady. I learned after that I got screwed. Dealer can't be trusted since even on new car purchases. I will literally read every word in in the buy contract before I sign. If contract is different than what the sales guy said, they just laugh it off and say it was an "honest mistake." Makes me wonder how many customers they've screwed over the years.
In regards to the Carfax, it won't show unreported collisions. Any time a police report is filed, or an insurance claim is made, it would show. *Edit* Correction: A filed claim doesn’t report it, but an estimate written will.
Actually 9 times out of 10 an Insurance claim doesn’t pop on Carfax, and the only way a written estimate might is IF that particular shop is tied into Carfax’s system. However Carfax is absolutely garbage. Wife’s 2019 Camry XSE was rear ended by a GMC truck. State Trooper came out and wrote the report, so it automatically popped up on the report. However 13k in damages with 10+ hours of frame repair time, and in 8 months I never could get them to actually list the frame damage. Now some unsuspecting person has bought it from a Toyota dealer, and at some point they are gonna get a nasty surprise. I’m sure the weird rear tire wear and not quite driving straight will give it away.
It is possible to find a good car for a good price. Eight years ago I bought a 2002 Acura RL for $4,000 from a small used car lot. It had one owner who took care of it. I took for a drive, once I got away from the lot I jacked it up and crawled under it and inspected it, it was gorgeous. Popped the hood and everything looked great. It drove perfectly. The interior was as good as could be hoped for considering the car was 14 years old or so and had 110k miles. I've been driving that car every day since then and it still runs like a dream.
Any tips for us that don't know what to look for when buying a car . Looking for one now and i car look at the engine and not know what's wrong especially if the seller cleaned the engine up
I had a used car salesman with a used car with 120000 miles. Probably worth $10000. His price was $4000. I asked why and he said it had been in an accident. Carfax showed no accidents. The dealer showed me the repairs and stated the car was solid and the repairs were solid. I bought the car and 8 years and 100000miles later, it is still running. There are honest used car salesmen out there. They are rare so if you find one, keep them around.
I bought a car from Avis at 32k, 2 years old at $18k. I had a couple of weeks to test drive it, no charge, unless I decided not to buy it, then the rental fee applies. I’m quite happy with it, no major problems other general maintenance. I’ve driven 147k on it so far now, it’s been 6 years since I bought it. The process in buying it was quite easy, no issues. Financing offered was low. The downside, the paperwork was thick. You have to read everything it says before signing each clause. I had to keep after Avis financing company to get the new plates and registration to me. It took about 6 weeks. Pet peeve, no spare tire or jack.
I'd rather get kicked in the lower regions than deal with car dealers. We traded with a local big 3 dealership and I feel violated unable to sit down. Nothing is worse than trading cars, not prostrate exams, not root canals, nothing.
I just bought an 02 Lexus RX300 for $800 with 205k miles. Was misfiring. Replaced $15 camshaft sensor and ran smooth. Best $800 I've ever spend. Now just doing regular tune ups on it. Perfect $800 daily driver.
a couple of years ago, my wife and I went car shopping at a Toyota dealership looking for a used Ford Escape.. And we found one there.. We test drove it, when we got back to discuss the vehicle, I asked the salesman if it had been through their 'vigorous' multi-point inspection.. He said most definitely, "We inspect every vehicle, its our policy, AND we also changed the oil before putting it out on the lot.' So, I opened the hood.. Everything looked clean except I couldn't find the oil dipstick. Until I looked closer, and there it was right in front of the engine but the handle was broken off and there was no way to even grab it with pliers to pull it out and check it.. How the heck do you change the oil on a vehicle and not actually check the levels during the process? And I tell you, the break on the top of the dipstick was not a fresh break... That MOFO was broken for a very long time.. So, I asked to see the carfax... As you say, the carfax is worthless... The carfax showed that there was only one previous owner of the vehicle, and all the maintenance records showed until the original free maintenance plan ran out and the owner had to start paying for oil changes.. After that, no more reporting of when the oil change happened again.. Some one broke the handle off, and I would venture to guess, never changed the oil after that.
I know a mechanic that worked with me, then left to go work for a national rental company. He told me that if the cars come in and business gets pushed for cars. Some of the cars won't get serviced for about 10,000 miles
1:00 - In some states, such as GA, those 'fluff fees' are flat out 100% illegal. It is a law that is not enforced, obviously, and when you literally lay the printed law in front of them they act completely gobsmacked. Of course, if they put those fees inside the advertised price it's perfectly legal... but to 'beat the other dealer' they leave them out and, with that omission, you can yank a good chunk of their profit right from under them. I've done it repeatedly, and report any dealership that refuses to back down (I record all such transactions and use that in my complaint). Thus far I have only managed to get one franchise dealer shut down (Ford) by the manufacturer. I've had multiple BBB complaints 'resolved' - but always between the BBB and the dealership, NEVER with my involvement. That just shows you the BBB is firmly in the pocket of business, not consumers. When I finally do make a purchase It's thousands below sticker, much less the fluff, because they realize how much power I had in that print out.
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Always use Scottys advice
Scotty should I get an electric car or a gas car in 2022
only big problem with private sales, they are trading them in and getting good money for anything decent so dealers buy them all up !!
I need ur help if possible
Scotty I bought a 1989 Ford f 350 with aftermarket bed bumper and 5 inch lift for $3000 runs strong always starts and is a 460 engine I know the parameters are rough but they say the 4 wheel drive works and it's on 35s both tanks work and the cruise control works it a lariat and the Interior is clean (ac doesn't work) did I make roughly a good purchase?
I knew an honest used car salesman once. He actually did ok for himself and his family. Wasn't wealthy, but everyone trusted him. Goes without saying, but those guys are rare.
Yeah, would have sold more if he did not have a Sales Manager.
I did car sales in downtown Chicago, real high end area of the city and would watch people drive away in total junk with glossy paint. When everyone who works at the dealer doesn't drive that brand at all you have to wonder about that brands reliability and quality. I also didn't like how people were treated if they weren't dressed up. Had a girl that walked our lot for half hour and noone even went out to say hi because she wasn't affluent looking. I went out and she told me she wanted this one used car, I said sure and she then told me ok sold, didn't even want to test drive it, came in, paid and left in less than 40 minutes. I got the sale and she didn't even ask about the price, she wanted me to get a good commission for being the only person that asked her if she needed help. Then there's the people who can't afford to own what they're buying, had a Russian girl who NEEDED at least a 5 series BMW. She had 800 bucks in her bank, and maxed out credit cards for her down payment. A few months later she returned because her friends couldn't believe she'd buy a rear wheel drive car with Chicago winter's. So she NEEDED all wheel drive, 5 series etc etc. Turns out her loan was going to be above 100k and her car was only worth 70 percent what it was in fall. She was furious when her car payments would be higher than her rent. It didn't matter since she couldn't get approved anyway and later I heard it was reposessed anyway because turns out she couldn't pay cards, rent, car and designer clothes and purse. She could have left with a new all wheel drive Mini but said she wouldn't be caught dead in that stupid thing (keep in mind it's BMW who owns it)
@@toriless Who, the guy I knew? He did all his own managing. He had a secretary though.
@@williammcleroy558 that car salesman has you for a fan.
They're out there, but how do you find them?
Moral of the story, if you buy a new car, you are screwed, if you buy a used car, you are screwed.
Ain't that the truth. Even buying from an individual can be treacherous.
unless its a 95 celica
Moral of your sentence, if you buy a car that is unlucky, you're screwed, if you buy a lucky car that has no defects, you ain't screwed. But either way a car needs maintenance so either way, owning a car is basically means you're screwed. Better off with bike. Even with bike, parts need to be replaced. So youre screwed. Basically life is meaningless and your screwed.
Truth and truth.
TRUE
Ten years ago, a used car dealer tried to charge me a 'destination' fee on a used car. When I asked him why, he said he had purchased the car 900 miles away, and they had to have it shipped there. I told him to ship it back, and I'd buy it there. Then I walked out. A month later, I see the very same car advertised for sale for 30% less than he has previously priced it at.
Very smart.
@Joe-no7gsrather walk home than be scammed
I was on a dealers lot buying a used car some years ago. During the process I was told because of 9/11, background checks are mandatory and was asked to fill out a credit app. I reminded them that I was not financing the car I'm writing a check in full. Hand me a background check app and I'll sign it. The manager came out and said filling out a credit app was standard procedure everywhere. He said "ask any dealer". So I replied "that is exactly what I'm going to do. I'll ask another dealer. Thank you for your time". And I walked out.
The GM called me a couple days later to ask what happened. I said I went somewhere else upon her managers advice, found a better deal, so I bought their car. I said your manager could have taken my check and waited until it cleared before I took the car. She apologized and said she would be having a 'thinking outside of the box' meeting with her staff.
All dealers suck, I try to buy from individuals when I can. I went to a dealer after seeing a used truck, it was a Chevy 1500 truck. I asked if 4500 would buy it out the door. Asking price was 4995. Drove up to drive it. It was a pretty good truck, went to pay , they told me it would be 4800 plus taxes and fees. Bringing total to 5400, I said , that I was told , 4500 out the door would buy it. They sales manager said “ no way” so I left, they called me a couple days later, said, they could take the 4500, it felt good to say” nope”😃
@@clintdavis4886 Not 'all' dealers suck, but good ones are rare, and difficult to find. I've only known of ONE, that was Summit Ford in New Jersey, but that was back in 1990, so things might have changed. The rest, yes, have all sucked.
I really wish I had the knowledge and confidence to buy a good used card from an private party. It just overwhelms me. I'm terrified of finding out later than I got screwed and buyer's remorse is a huge problem for me. Mostly irrational, I'm sure, but it's the truth.
Same😢
You can hire a mechanic you trust to do a pre-purchase inspection for between $150-200. There are companies that specialize in this and will give you a thorough report.
@@TheArtOfRevolution That's good to know. Thanks so much! I'll have to find someone around me.
I once worked for a dealership and their 30 point inspection on used cars consisted of driving it through the on site car wash 😂😂😂😂
Wanting to go to a regular dealer that also sells pre owned cars is that a good idea?
30 point(s) in Candy Crush.
@@mikeh5044 I feel like a baller in my phantom gray 2011 Cadillac CTS 3.6 premium i finance it for 17k With 111,000 miles the original price was 12k
I believe that lol. Car dealers do nothing as a courtesy. One jerk charged Melbourne $90.00, to install a couple 12 volt batteries, and of course the A--hole friend of mine sold cars for 25 yrs and basically said: Ron, when have U known a dealer to do anything for free , well I wouldn't of MInded fairness let's say 40 bucks, but the service writer even put on shop fees10 dollars approx. Needless I've been doing g my own work now in the summer
I currently work for a dealership and bought a 99 F250 diesel for 8 grand, its been working amazingly so far. Ultimately you need to know what you want, what your looking for, is reliability important to you? Do research on the vehicle.
15 years ago I went to a used car lot. They didn’t want to entertain the idea. I was “too young”. So I went to the Dodge dealer. Bought a new truck for a few thousand more than the used one. I added the full lifetime warranty and across the 15 years they didn’t make a penny off the truck. 300k miles later I still have it and it runs great. Haven’t had a payment in 12 years. Sometimes we gotta share the good stories too. Not everything is a horror show.
Appreciate that
That’s exactly how to do it!
Unfortunately you don’t build much credit without upgrading to a new car every 6-7yrs and the value of the vehicle goes down a ton. By the time you need a new car your going to get raked by apr
@@texasnyghtmare that's not exactly true. My credit hovers between 770 and 800. I haven't bought a new car but once in my life. But I have a mortgage and my three revolving credit cards, and my private student loan payments, I am more than enough to keep my credit steady. About three months ago I started looking for a new car, and the APR was much lower than I have expected it to ever be.
@@texasnyghtmare there are a million ways to boost ur credit brother without buying new cars😂. A million ways
Could we please have a Scotty’s certified preowned car dealership, I wouldn’t go anywhere else
it probably wouldnt be able to stay in business
Really tho!!!
nah id never pull up because there would be no bmws/:
@Hector Ramirez ? He is a mechanic that is the point lol a dealership where the mechanics are selling the cars? And you can take it back to the mechanic if it isn’t right? Does that sound worse than a car salesman selling you a car?
Me too!
The majority of used cars on a dealers lot come from an auction and aren’t really traded in.
i have my dealer license but no big car lot like those sketchy guys. i DO NOT get my cars for 30-50% of what i sell it for, no way. a huge win for me is making 25% over what i paid. i work on all the cars myself and it’s a lot of work. I never sell a car that’s got “hidden” problems because my worst nightmare is a customer coming back with complaints. i want my cars to work more than the buyer does. ive had a passion for cars since my teens. please know there are still good people out there, but the industry is swarming with sketchballs.
What city are you in? I wanr to buy a car from you!
There are good small "pre-owned" cars for sale from family owned car lots. Look for those people, they need the income for their family and are much more willing to be honest. Their business of staying in business depends on it.
I’m 20 and I worked for a shady used car lot and I just got my own license because I was not cut out for the lie and hide game. I much rather have happy customers over a little extra money in my pocket any day of the week
@@jacobhartman5380 Glad to hear of an honest person! Honesty and integrity are so important and you will be able to sleep at night too!
Are you in North Carolina by chance
Everything Scotty says is stuff I’ve heard from my mechanic grandpa for 20 years. It’s called wisdom.
Good info for any man to know..car sh@t!...💯👍
So... WHERE DO WE BUY then? From aliens?
@@dialecticalmonist3405 Grandmas car my C32 laurel I bought from an old lady still works flawlessly with 160000km despite being 40 years old
@@dialecticalmonist3405it’s risk, whether they are new or used. You gotta be a due diligent as you can, do the research and then take it on if you feel it’s good enough
Scotty is the car salesman’s worst nightmare 😂😂😂
Scotty can walk into a used car dealership and get the salesman from 10,000 down to 5,000 if he wanted😂😂😂☠️☠️
@@emekaasiegbu3697, Anyone that knows enough about cars could do the same.
Nope. Not at all. Any intelligent car salesman would ignore him as well as any other "customer" who is there solely to waste their time.
Hes got a networth in the millions Im sure theyd want to talk to him.@@chuckschillingvideos
@@chuckschillingvideosi take it you're a salesman
Scotty is so right. Here in Florida there is an automatic "dealer fee". It's just an extra fee, for nothing. Car dealers are a huge lobby here.
Yeah floriduuh sucks
Dealers get the vehicle history, the Carfax, the listing paperwork the cleaning, sometimes the fixing, detailing, paying for employee's. Who pays for that the customer does. It should be included in the price but some keep the price low and charge that fee afterwards.
we just call em fascists in the north
I'm gonna give a shout out to Autowise in Melbourne FL one of the few car dealerships in Florida that is honest
Used car salesmen made a pact with politicians... you know you're screwed already.
I used be an independent used car dealer as well as an employee for a few used car lots before going out on my own, the cars I bought and sold were inexpensive $3500 on average give or take. Before getting into that business I considered myself an honorable person, my thing was I would pick out the best cars I could, I'd check them out as best I could and if they needed work or an inspection sticker I'd always do it and lastly a full detail. 80 percent of the buyers would question my integrity at some point during a sale even though I just had the car inspected and or fixed, some of them still didn't believe it or most likely anything I said. They're reason was because the last couple cars they bought turned out to be lemons, I understood it. What could I say?
Don’t give up your integrity for those that didn’t trust your work. God always has a way to provide for you and your loved ones. Jesus Christ is the holiest name.
@@mariop.2758 Or preserve your happiness and don't do thankless jobs to provide a service for people who don't deserve it.
@@iinrodwetrust unfortunately or fortunately I'm not in the car business at the moment, I'm a car person just not doing it as a job. Because of that there's a lot less stress, what kind of a car are you considering? Is this your first car?
@@irocitZ 3rd used car but the car I currently have has a lot of hidden issues that couldn’t be detected when I went to buy it. I plan on purchasing a 2014-2020. I’m extremely weary of the same thing happening again especially with a vehicle like this.
I don't tell them anything, any more. Just hand them the keys and tell them to go have it inspected and either buy it or don't. It's just an old used truck. Not worth enough for me to lie about and certainly not worth enough to argue with people over.
I'm a tech at a dealership and we have all these "Certified" used cars which meant our lube techs who get paid 13 dollars an hour change the oil and maybe the wiper blades if needed. Such a scam it's sickening
@ $13 an hour that's not surprising
@@captain_redpill8983 i get paid more stocking milk at walmart
Name the dealership
@@juano.9280
literally, and I bet their job is far harder. . . just like now I'm about to work from home for around 20 bucks an hour, before that I worked at little caesars as a closing manager and a dough maker and my thought the entire time was "why am I working here for 11 dollars an hour when I could get paid to do an easier, much more enjoyable job?!?!?"
@@Delimon007 what job do you have if you dont mind me asking
I worked for a used dealer here in Memphis 2 years ago . They would sell cars with trans going out , motor knocking and tell customers it was exhaust leaks . The list goes on and on . I can’t tell you how many cars we went and picked up off the side of the expressway 10-30 min after someone bought it . I just couldnt do that to people so I quit soon after starting
It all comes down to greed. I have heard that it's incoraged in the USA and even taught in college.
Ask Bernie Madeoff about greed
Which one there are multiple in Memphis?
@@laurieparker1414 If you think the USA is the source of the worlds greed you're not paying attention lol. It's EVERYWHERE and it's always ALWAYS the people telling you they care.
Memphis fa ya😂
the day is gone for caring. ring the white house they are responsible.
1. Used car lot
2. CarMax c
3. Car rental
Thanks
Car max is insanely overpriced. I see tons of em sold everyday but I’m like Jesus how.
@@HybridBlueDreamrich kids?
@@HybridBlueDream Carmax is cheap compared to Carvana.
I took Scotty’s advice from another video that he did about buy a car at a Rental Agency. Never pay full price, stayed within my budget, and they sell you the car as is. Only thing wrong was it was missing was the floor mats and the cigarette lighter fuse was out. No big deal because this car was a Toyota Corolla with. 60,000 miles. I am only going to use it for Rideshare and I can get part for it cheap no problem. Same 1.8 motor they have been using, only thing that changes is the body style from generation. Pretty sure there’s other minor differences, but it’s Toyota. They just build on what works. Wasn’t the best deal, but wasn’t the worst deal so it was in between.
I'm a reconditioning associate at CarMax, I really don't understand how they're able to sell cars at these egregious prices. I've seen cars sell for $20,000 that had 100k+ miles. The price gouging is just ridiculous.
most idiots don't care about the total price, only whether they can make the monthly payments
@@PersistentPatriot Pretty much that. I also see it mostly as rich people just looking for convenience over cost efficiency, which obviously they're not gonna care about. Suckers gonna suck.
My car just died on Friday, so I am suddenly in the market. The price disparities I have been seeing are absolutely shocking. I expect to overpay for any car I may decide to purchase due to our current economy, but there is a huge difference in overpaying a thousand or a couple over and in paying $10,000 or more over.
Anyone who is buying outrageously priced cars without doing significant research online first is squandering today's biggest advantage. At the recommendation of a friend, I went to a car lot today and found it to be a waste of time. The cars there were all overpriced compared to what I have found online. The next time I go out looking, I will have identified the specific cars of interest in advance, and then I will _only_ go to the lots where those cars are located to see if they are worth buying. I may end up driving all over the city just to look at three or four cars, but at least I will know what I am looking for.
Anything with 100k miles shouldn’t be bought for more than 10k.
@@eligreg99 That would be nice, but the past two years changed everything. I ended up buying a 2010 Honda Pilot with 129,000 MI for $13.3k out the door, which actually turned out to be a good deal considering all of my criteria. This inflation thing we have going on is no joke.
One of the things I kept hearing after joining the U.S. Navy is "Do not buy a car at a car dealership close to base. They'll know you're in the service and know you get paid every 1st and 15th and will milk you for everything you're worth." Lo and behold people do just that and are paying way more than the average Joe...
Everyone always knows where to avoid
So true especially in San Diego. Naval Station San Diego. I've never seen more used car lots in my life in the vicinity of that base😂
Sadly the government should protect their assets against this predatory practice but when your politicians are bright and paid for
I will say, the lemon lots overseas are actually pretty good!
I had a dealership sell one of my E-2s $10,000 rims for a car he didn’t have. Had to get him out of the deal immediately. What kind of scumbag rips off a kid serving his country? Turns out they’re all over the place.
Scotty is a national treasure with all his spot on observations....
2-4xs markup? Thats not spot on..thats a lie.
Personally, I love the quick clip of the boy with a finger up his nose🤣
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@@bennyb44875used car salesman behavior
He gives me that Walter White vibe, like the car guy is just an act to cover for him being an international criminal mastermind? Muh huh Hugh!!! 😱
I started out buying my cars at the wrecking yard for years. The best one was a Rav4 2000. I drove it for years working for USDA. I changed the oil, etc. Never had any problems. I invested my savings into my retirement. I found Toyota's were the best. When I retired I bought a 2017 Toyota Corolla from Hertz with around 30 thousand miles for $13,800.00. I have serviced it well, and had Toyota change the transmission fluid at 60 thousand. Usually change my own oil & filter myself, but at 84 I'm slowing down. I like Toyota and Hertz worked for me! I paid cash. If I was younger I would of bought a later Toyota with the better CVT first gear, but I ran out of time! Thanks for your advise Scotty. You have saved me a lot of money!
My Dad is a retired mechanic and i swear you guys sound like twins!!!😊 This sound mechanical advice has saved me hundreds of dollars over the years & Labor.
So how do i even frking find people selling cars for that cheep just ask rsndom people in Neiberhoods? Facebook ebay like how are u finding all these people selling vars for that low
@@MrFiddler craigslist and face book marketplace is the way to go
I had a Ford with 3 year warranty and I bought the genuine Ford extra 3 year warranty for a total of 6 years factory warranty. After the first 3 years every time I took it back for a warranty claim they would tell me that it wasn’t covered under their extended warranty. I would tell them that no, it wasn’t the dealership warranty it was the factory Ford warranty. “Oh, I that case it’s covered” and they would fix it for free but boy it showed me how useless those dealership extended warranties are because nothing I took it in for was covered. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
i completly agree.
I bought a Kia Carnival 2nd hand from a dealer and took out their “extended warranty”. A few months later it started running on five cylinders, and i could see (at night) one of the spark plug leads arcing all over the place. Apparently spark plug leads are not covered by the warranty because “spark plug leads are not electrical”. Work that one out!
@@richardhill2643 yep, not worth the paper they’re written on. At least it was just a lead and not a coil pack or computer. You’d think they would replace a simple lead out of good will. Oh wait, we’re talking about used car dealers, stupid me.
Amen
.. but I got a Honda so im Good lol
Yep, ONLY buy an automaker branded extended warranty. The aftermarket ones are complete utter garbage. They only cover the exact things written on the paper, and they will weasel out by saying the failure was caused by an uncovered part.
And if you do miraculously get something covered, it's hell to get reimbursed.
Makes me mad to see a car advertised for $25k then in the fine print there’s a $800 “dealer fee”. Well then the car is $25,800, not $25k
Or price is after $1,995 down
In some places, those practices are against the law.
@@mdotguy doesn’t matter when you sign the line though
I guess it’s better to buy private? Than from a used dealership.
@@bluejar5614 it's not against the law because if you sign it then you're on the hook. And if you're in a state that has laws that limit dealership fees; then they will just tack on dealership extras, addons, extended warranties, paint protection, etc...which is legal everywhere.
Moral of the story: become a lawyer before buying a car
Or, become a lawyer before doing anything. Everybody is trying to rob you. Except for a few
I would rather have a tooth pulled than buy a car.
or become an anarchist and revolt, make your own law
A car dealer and a Lawyer is about the same.
Haha 💯
Scotty, you are the ultimate consumer advocate for automobile sales! Thank you!
I think Consumer Reports taps his phone. (LOL)
I like Scotty but lets be real their are more than 3 car brands.
Scotty's much more reliable than Consumer Reports.
@@gabrielaaron If you pay attention and listen then you'll notice that in countless videos he recommends every brand if you can get it cheap enough.
Agree, he should be the head consultant for AAA and CAA here in Canada, his advice is like gold!
Overpay is something I don't do thanks to my dad taking me with him to buy cars. My wife won't go with me anymore. She says she feels sorry for the salesperson. They inevitably tell me, "I'm not going to make any money on this deal," (uh huh) or they just get outright angry. I always end up saying, "No one is forcing you to sell it to me," or, "There are a lot of other places I can buy a car." Thanks, dad!
That’s great
I would feel sorry for the salesman as well. You and your father sound like a douche.
I research prices and options a lot......like 6 months' worth. Most dealerships hate me, cause i walk away or i tell them what I'll be paying. Thats out the door too.
That’s a great lesson your dad taught you.
My response to guys like you is You don't have to buy it, and, feel free to go elsewhere. Of course it's easier for me since A, I own my inventory and B, I make a point of undercutting everyone's prices from the start.
This is the reason I still own my 98 Honda Civic lx 5 speed, with 201,145 miles on it . This car is rock solid!!
Yea I sold cars for 3 years and loved but would never buy a car because I love working on my vehicles and maintaining them. Honestly most cars don’t last because the owners don’t do the preventative maintenance. I drive a 96 Toyota RAV4 and it’s got 198,000 and some miles and runs perfect because I keep up the maintenance. I’m not stuck paying a car payment every month which Saves a ton of money.
Don't take "rock solid" too literally, they're not known for safety integrity, that's for sure!
Keep that car forever
@@StrongerThanBigfoot I recently bought a 87 S10 with the V6. Had the transmission rebuilt for 1200$. Great work truck that came with a high weight suspension and a lumber rack.
Scotty is my favorite Symphony Maestro.
My friend sold his truck to a “we buy any car” place for $3,000 and they turned around and priced it at $9,000! 😂
Did you expect them to sell it for $3000? 🤔
@@georgeavocado5495yea why didn't his friend sell it lol😂
@@georgeavocado5495maybe $6000
I want to do that with my crappy ford focus to see how much they will ask 😂
@@bulldogmack they probably offer you $500-$1000 what year? They had notorious transmission issues ☠️
This is more entertaining than anything on television and way more honest than mainstream media 🤣🤣🤣
Literally anything us more honest than mainstream media
@@redache467 Sad but so true 🤣
Jerry sprinter has nothing on Scotty 😋
I feel like I’m watching a real life Red Green. I loved that show…
@@clintthroop5618 exactly! I loved that show also ❤️
I lucked out with last two cars. First was a church lady’s car. She drove it 3 times a week average: to her church, grocery store and Drs appts. After 12 years, she had driven 37,000 miles. Car was also parked under a canopy when not in use. Best $1500 ever. Car still running after a mere 145,000. There was an episode of electrical issue, but that was fixed with a new wiring harness. All trouble codes disappeared. Of more recent, a grandpa car. It was driven much more, as these grandparents drove the Continental 48, visiting their grandchildren. At 13 years, this vehicle had 222,000. But at $1800, too good to pass up. 5 speed 4 cyl., been a great car.
That is me now with my 2004 honda acura...bought it last year for 1800.00 with 80000 miles on it -- a 19 year old suv with only 80000 miles on it???? Yup. Put 100,000 of my own miles on it this last year...60 hwy miles per day round trip for work. And now...2 weeks ago -- after a transmission fluid flush -- i know, I know...never again -- the transmission stopped on the hwy. Towed it to my place. Replacing the transmission fluid filter up front under the battery first...then the main transmission solenoid switcher...and see what happens. I'd rather take a shot with some of these smaller interconnected parts instead of just dumping a whole new rebuilt tranny in it. watching many utubes on my transmission topic the past few days and seeing signs of hope. I have started my SUV 2 days in a row now...when...after a few minutes of the engine warming up...I can actually drive the SUV a few feet ahead and a few feet in reverse...so something outside the norm is going on here.
0:01 Car Lots
9:19 Retal Companies
18:46 CarMax
Thanks
Saved 18 minutes of me listening to this guy drone.
I bought from a dealer for the first time they asked 8 grand and got 9 grand after taxes and fees. The car fax shows the oil changes AT THAT DEALER for 16 years.....
Double thanks.
Best deal I ever got was a 1991 toyota corolla with 83,000 miles on it for $850. Bought her in 2016, found her on craigslist was listed for $750. When I contacted the lady to look at the car she said I could look at the car in like 4 days because she had all these people already lined up to look at the car. I told her I would give her $850 if I liked the car. I looked at and test drove the car that afternoon. I instantly bought the car, was even garage kept with a cover on it. Unbelievably clean car to this day, best backup vehicle ever and is exempt from inspection in NJ.
Scotty is a legend... If you don't know anything about car... You are at the right place...free car university
I bought a 2013 Camry from a Hertz dealership. It had 46k miles on it then, now at 236k and the only expenses have been tires and routine maintenance.
U lucked up
Iv had my 2019 jeep trailhawk from Hertz for a year. Just had to replace the original Mopar Battery...but otherwise no problems.
Didn’t luck up, Dad always recommended used rental cars as value propositions. Car Fax is more than likely to have their history correct. The cars are usually in warranty or just out and there is no deterrence from the rental agency to get required repairs done. The normal oil changes, maintenance items are taken care of and on time.
Private individuals are goofballs about getting regular maintenance accomplished.
Also Dad new what he was talking about more than Scotty or anyone on this forum. He Hotrodded cars before Scotty was born, several family members are in the used car business as Owners for years. Dad “floor planned” used car dealers, he built the house we lived house from ground up. He built all of the furniture in the house, he rebuild all of the cars which all ran for over 200K before mom demanded upgrades. When he got older and tired of rebuilding cars, he only bought Toyotas.
Finally due to smart decisions he retired at 45 and never went to work again.
Conclusion, I always follow his advice rather than listen to some of the dumb advice that exist on forums (Rental cars are usually fine and represent a relative bargain until everyone catches on)
@@hugoglenn9741
Have you ever ridden with somebody driving a rental car? They beat the snot out of them....
My car was a rental too. Best car I have ever owned.
When I drive a rental car I take care of it as if it was my own vehicle for a few reasons:
1. I don't want to be charged for damaging the car.
2. I have formed a habit in my life of respecting the property of others and treating expensive things with care.
3. I don't want to drive a dirty broken vehicle during the time that I am using it.
I also turn off the light in a hotel room when I leave because I don't want to waste energy even though I am not paying for it.
That is me ALLLLLL DAY!
Agree just be decent. Damn it's actually easier to be that way.
Me too bro.
Do your home work before purchasing a used car. You're looking for a one owner vehicle with less than 50K on the odometer. I found such a vehicle and even tracked down the original owner. This car sat on the used car lot for eight months before I purchased it. The car came from an dealer only auction and sold for $7850. The dealership listed it for $16550 and each month it came down in price. I purchased it for $9950 that was two years ago. Since this purchase I have done routine maintenance and replaced the tires.
@@bluejar5614 2013 Mini Cooper S Hatchback 51K one owner excellent condition
Our Camry's are both one owner with good maintenance until bought. Yep, drops about a grand per month.
you don't need to buy something w less that 50k miles...... that's ridiculous.... and not everyone can afford that
@@richsweeney1115 It depends on your driving.. At one point, for 11yrs, I had a daily 160 mile commute, not including other normal driving. You want to start, as low as financially possible, mileage wise.
This is not just good advice for cars, it's damn entertaining. This is one of the best TH-cam channels, period. I'm about to binge the hell out of this channel.
It is funny because it is all true!😂
In Australia, car dealerships must advertise the total "drive away" price. They're also liable for any claims about the vehicle. If a vehicle has been in a crash, bu the dealership claims it hasn't been in one, then the dealership is liable. They can't pass on the blame to anyone else.
In England the seller is also responsible for the vehicle passing a very strick and expensive emissions test.
@@TheChromescorpion Same way here in California - seller is responsible for emissions pass; however, the buyer can pay for the test, if you’re clever.
that's how it should be.
I WISH this was the case in the US! It should be!
@@Mustang2277 too many lobbyists to ever be able to take care of the consumer.
Thank you Scotty for your honesty, and you're right about the extended warranty. I purchased a warranty from CarShield paid them for approx. 5 months, maybe 6, then my 2008 Enclave just quit while I was driving, had to have it towed home, called CarShield they told me to have it towed to any repair place of my choice and have them called them after the diagnostic was done. Well after they diagnostic was done (the dealership used some many technical terms for what was wrong) instead of just saying the vehicle needed another motor which they charged $8,000.00 to rebuild the motor and CarShield said those exact words as you said. I ended up paying for the tow to and from the dealership, CarShield didn't even pay for that. I'll never get another car warranty in this lifetime, they'll all full of SHYT. They'll take your money but when it's time for them to honor their contract they'll have excuses galore to why they can't honor the contract and don't refund your money.You're just A** out.
I used to live in Oregon & there's a vintage car dealer that's been in business for 40 years.
He's very honest unlike most of them, he tells you what he pays for his cars.
How many dealers do that ?? He's the only one I know because he's honest.
He deals in cars of the 30's to the 90's. He also has a buy back policy he will buy the car back
for what he paid for it.
What city?
@@nicolasr7706 It's Portland, the name is "Memory Lane Motors" the owner is in his 80's.
@winggullseagull1230
Are they on Macadam/43 near the Sellwood Bridge?
My problem with buying private, is that people are flakes. I bought my current car about 3 months ago, and I was really trying to get one privately. I contacted 23 sellers. Only 5 returned my call/text/email. 3 of those 5 did not respond to follow-up questions. Of the 2 that did, 1 was still worth looking at. When I showed up to look at it, it was not the way the seller had previously described it.
I ended up getting a great deal on my Volvo from a consignment auction. My advice is to learn how to evaluate a car as is. You can never really trust a car's history. We all have secrets. So do cars.
If you put in the time, you can track the VIN of any car online from dealer to owners to dealer. How does Carmax do it? Well, they give you 30 days to take the car home and examine it, play with it, lick it, whatever and will give you your money back if you don’t like it for any reason. And yes, they actually give you your money back. Their prices are usually by the book and their dealer fee is a whopping 45 bucks or whatever the cost is from the license office. Getting a good price comes down to playing with the years and mileage and finding a car loaded with the options. Carmax values cars based on 1) Age 2) Mileage. Look for older year models with low mileage and loaded options to get a good price.
I got lucky. My used enterprise car salesman was honest and we were both Catholics he was white ,I am black. Bought a 2020 countryman. 15 months later , we still friends
My brother bought a vehicle at a Ford dealer. The warranty was extra.
A year later, there was a problem. Turns out the warranty didn't cover anything electrical or anything that bears friction.
In other words, the warranty was worth less than the ink it took to print the darned thing.
“Anything that bears friction” sheesh that’s literally almost, if not, everything in the car. Wind hitting your car when driving creates friction, heat radiation creates friction. lol crazy!
Never buy extended warranties, they are always a rip off.
I worked for a dealership for 2 months because I felt so bad that their "required Shottenkirk Care Package" added $3000 to the price of the car. What did it include? Nitrogen air for tires, chip repair in the windshield, 1 key fob replacement and flat tire repair (not replacement). The dealer required this for ALL customers!!! I couldn't sleep.
What a scam?!
Just tried to buy a Truck from a Shottenkirk dealership. Was priced very good. Found out once I got there that there was a "Recondition" fee - $2500. Spent a while trying to get a good price. If they would have just dropped that I would have bought it. If it's required put it in the fracking internet price.
Back in 2005 I walked out of a Mazda dealership because they wouldn’t stop adding fees and mandatory “packages”. They had the color, the trim, and the transmission I wanted. I stood up after three times threatening it and they said to me as I was walking out “You wouldn’t have bought anyway!” So the next day after buying a 2006 Jetta 2.5L with the 5sp manual, bigger interior, better initial build quality for $2k less and an extra $1500 for my trade (it lasted me 13 yrs and 225k miles) I drove it to the Mazda dealership acting like I was ready and just wanted them to come outside and see my trade in again, I showed them the VW and said, “looks like I was ready to buy after all !?” The manager actually apologized, but it was too late.
Nitrogen is free at any Costco, a programmed and cut key fob and about $200, $90 + $45 + $54
@@brooksteer5629 I was in my early 20’s, I don’t know lol.
I bought a 1999 Toyota Corolla from a Rental company. It lasted me 500,000kms and 10 years. I never had a single issue with the car except a new $250 starter. Everything worked by the time I got rid of it just because at 27 I was too cool for a Corolla. But it was the best car I ever owned maintenance and reliability wise.
Yep. Every car i've had thats been low maintenance and worry free is used cars with minimal frills. The less gadgets they have on them, the less that can break or go wrong. As long as you took care of them those used oldies with a regular transmission, crank windows, and a radio had very few things go wrong with them. It's always rust that takes down cars here which is the only thing prevents you driving those old gems forever. Throw too much road salt in the winters to every hope to get them to last much longer than 15-20 years passed new around here
I am amazed at Scotty's content and expertise, but more than that, the way he keeps up with his sign language as he speaks. Amazing, just doesn't cover it. EXTRAORDINARY !
Sucks buying a car today still.. been looking for a car for months and everything for sale is junk where I live.. very frustrating..
What's out there ,?what's most sold in your area?
Same! I been looking for cars aswell and people don't take care of them or there to expensive
Look in other places like my best place to buy them at is San Antonio texas cars don’t ever have rust unless they came from winter states but you will see the rust fast enough
I was looking this morning, everything over priced for miles
The "chip shortage" is artificially created. You realize that, right. Automakers colluded to invent this, so they could choke off the supply of new vehicles and raise prices. And don't get me started on the baby formula shortage. That was an attempt at depopulation. You don't hear about all the millions of infants who starved to death because of it, as that would be inconvenient news for the masses to hear.
I respect you and know you speak truth but I bought a used 2007 Dodge Magnum in 2008 from a dealership who told me it was a rental. She had 15,000 miles when I got her and 175,000 when I let her go. I had her for 14 years with hardly any problems or major repairs. The only damage when I got her was a blown rear speaker. A lot of rentals are trash but she was a diamond in the rough.
Pretty good for a Dodge
Objects are "it"
@@DavidSmith-ps5nd yup. All my cars were she’s. Even my new Bolt is my girl.
@christopherpolanco9486 😂I always found guys that called there cars "her" "she", a little creepy 😳 😂
A true educator and advocate who provides honest experience driven advice to us mere mortals… Appreciate ya Scotty!👍👏
I definitely lean toward buying from an individual but you'd better be quick and have cash in hand because every time that I see something well maintained it sells quick.
Never be in a hurry to by a used car, regardless
The first car that I bought win 1959 was a 1954 Ford from a large dealer's used car lot in Houston. It looked clean and seemed to run good and my dad thought it would be a good car for my first. Well it being in Houston the windows were all rolled down and when I went to roll them up that night I found that it had no windows as they had all been broken out. I learned a valuable lesson to never trust any used car dealer. Fortunately Houston had lots of junk yards to get replacement windows from and they were cheap in the those days. Unfortunately I did not make much money with which to buy them.
1950s . I can picture the dealer telling you something really Texan like, " get to stepping" with a shotgun in his hand.... if you returned to protest about the windows. LOL
Lol that sounds like something out of a comedy movie.
Had a coworker get a car from a dealership that was "certified" used. They was selling it for 20k off the lot 25k financed. He told them he has 12k to buy it. They tried everything in the book to finance it. Even try to finance it for 2k fee. Which means they'll let it go for 14k. He said either you get 12k or ill go to a competitor. Yea....they sold a 20k priced vehicle for 12k. Basically, you as the consumer always have the upper hand. They have the vehicles, you have the money. Try and guess which one is more important? Ill wait.....
I once got a car selling for $34k down to $22k. Didn't want to test drive the car, way over budget, salesman was like drive it and if you like it we can talk. Drove away in the car that evening.
Yeah I went to a Honda dealer and I swear those guys thought their own farts smelled like vanilla. I walked away because their asking price on a 6 year old Civic was insane. They called back 3 days later. They always call back.
😊😊
Iv only gotten a couple thousand off of my used car. Frankly once a car is worth 17k, there isn’t a ton of wiggle room I’d say
My dad was an honest, hard working car salesman who was great with people and really tried to do his best to get people the best cars with the best service. He did not do nearly as well as the guys who just wanted to push cars off the lot. It's so fucked up how that works
Agreed
One of your best videos Scott! The other reason Carmax does so well is their “no haggle” pricing. People just don’t know how to haggle and are either intimidated by the process or just lazy. Thanks again for all your content and keep up the good work!
Before we bought our Ranger in 2004, we went to CarMax to look at an advertised Ranger. It was a two year old standard cab, no options but A/C, with over 20k miles and it was $12,600. They insisted that was their best price. We bought a brand new 2004 Ranger, extended cab with optional towing package, for $13,500. I've no idea how CarMax gets customers.
Dummies who don’t know about cars unfortunately
Car max gets customers for one reason…. They advertise and are very public that their sales people don’t get commission. We studied them in business school and learned that their business model is based on a study showing millennials and gen z will happily pay 3-4k MORE to not feel uncomfortable, pressured, or have to negotiate / assert themselves.
I think they launder money.
Because it’s simple and easy lol. People really don’t mind paying extra to avoid shitty car salesmen.
Because there’s a sucker born every minute. That’s how they get customers.
In Europe, the car rental companies are all suspect. I've been stung twice with them claiming I had scratched the car, when I returned them. It got to the stage where, if I have to hire a car, I photograph EVERY INCH OF THE CAR, including the interior before I drive away. Same story when I return it. I have seen the staff treat tourists abominably in their offices at the airport. Adding charges and dodging ANY sort of liability. Shameful. And, they also try to scam you if they've asked for a deposit for a child seat or whatever. They'll try to give you less than you paid if you're not paying attention. 😝
After you photograph the inside and outside of rental car, and drive away. What to say someone bumps into your rental at the market or some punk scratches it after you take the car??
Thank you so much for all the videos, Scotty! I bought my first car, a 2003 Pontiac Sunfire for super cheap at a private seller that explained to me the problems it had and because of your videos, I managed to fix my yellow grandma and she is all taken care of. Of course she is old and has a big millage over the years, but thanks to your tricks and tips, she will run for as many years as I can stretch her to do so.
Now I am able to take good care of her like the previous owner did and continue with the work!
You're a hero, man!!!
I bought a used truck from the Dodge dealer and bought the warrantee for $1400. 2 years later the trans went out. The fixed it no questions asked.
Bought a nearly new 2017 Elantra from a Toyota dealer, was ex-rental car. Paid just under $11,000. At the time had over 40,000 miles which had been covered in just 18 months. My son now owns it, has over 100,000 miles. Had zero problems and gets excellent mpg. Guess I got lucky.......
Dealers sometimes have “loaner cars” or “demo cars” that they give out to clients while their primary is in the shop. There’s a huge difference between that an a Hertz rental that gets handed out to joe 6 pack. If you’re borrowing a car from the mechanic you have a relationship with, you’re probably taking care of it and just driving to work with it.
Lol you said just over 100k on the odometer. After about 130k that hyundai will start burning 🔥 oil. I've owned two of them.
I see engines being replaced on Hyundai cars likes trans being replaced on Nissans.
@@jaysmith179 yes its quite common lol. The transmissions in that hyundais aren't good either. Hyundai is a terrible car. When I worked for carmax last year for a short period. I saw a Kia in the tech bay with its guts out. Either the engine or transmission was being replaced.
@@jackyack7850 Yeah, but those loaner cars are always low end. When my Camry was being worked on they gave me some piece of junk, Corolla LE or whatever is worse. It was junk but low miles.
Thanks Scotty I have adopted you as my Dad. My real father is a mechanic for 40 years, who never taught me anything about anything. I lost $5000 buying shitty vehicles last year.
Damn that’s crazy
Does he drive a Ram
why dont you go with your dad when looking for vehicles lmao
Certified pre-owned cars must have everything that came with vehicle new, like two key fobs and a valet key, the owners manual, floor mats and trunk liner, and the factory spare tire.
Yup that’s how my most recent car came
i got a VW certified pre-owned Passat 29k miles, it listed everything that was checked and what was done. and it came with like a 20k mile warranty i think it was. 3 1/2 years and 80k miles later and still going strong. 💗
I have never bought a bad used car. But, I have a few rules:
1) it needs to be a car with a reputation for reliability;
2) it needs to be from a private original or second owner;
3) the seller needs to be a facially responsible person of the sort who takes care of what they own: and,
4) there needs to be nothing obviously wrong with the car at the time I buy it, including bad tires or brakes or excessive smoking.
Follow these rules and your chance of getting burned is low.
I'm currently the second owner of a former Hertz rental (2012 Corolla) It's been a fantastic car over the last 5 years, and likely will be fantastic for another 5 years as well
I've purchased 2 cars from hertz rental...knock on wood, been good, too!
I can vouch. In 2018 I bought a used 2015 Corolla with 22,000 miles and a clean car fax for $14,400 from a dealer. The car had definitely rear ended another at low speed. Popping the hood I saw one of the headlight mounts was cracked and the bumper cover had a couple split eyehole mounts which had been secured to the body with non factory bolts. I got lucky though, the car is paid off, has 140k on it and runs like a top.
How much work u had done so far
@@blowfly420 Only issues I've ever had was one rear wheel bearing needed to be replaced and the gas cap stopped sealing all the away which threw an EVAP leak code. Up to 150k miles now, she still runs great.
@drewg2403 no engine problems that's all that matters
Um. You bought a 2018 car for that kinda money?😮
@@RyanN880EP any low mile car will keep value u probably don't even drive lol
I own a used car lot, and what Scotty is saying is true about some car lots...but not all. I grew up in this business, I went to Tech school and I'm a mechanic, We deal in 10-20 year old cars, and there's one important difference in us and at least some other lots, especially those selling older cars...we repair our cars before selling them. Also we don't make anywhere near 2-3 times what we pay for them. When we look for cars to buy, it’s possible to find older cars with no major problems, but you'll never find 10-20 year old cars with no minor problems. They need wheel bearings, window motors, batteries, radiators, tires, brakes, interior work, have check engine lights, etc. etc. etc.
Each car doesn't need all those things, but all cars need some of them. We fix what we find wrong before we sell them. Sometimes it takes weeks to get them finished. It's not easy but we can offer a reliable $4-6 thousand dollar car. Sometimes we'll repair a half-dozen things on one, I'll test drive it home several times, and finally, we'll be satisfied with it...runs and drives good, stops good, no lights on the dash, smooth on the highway, no further issues. We'll offer it for sale, and a customer will come drive this $5000 car, come back and say "I don't want it, the radio speaker balance is off" or something like that. We just facepalm and go back to work.
Hey Scotty, bought myself a running 1967 Mustang with a K-code 289 engine with minimal body work needed. I absolutely fleeced the seller and got it for 8 grand. Your videos throughout the years helped me learn to fix it myself. Thanks for saving my wallet to support my dream hobby!
Working at a Toyota dealership, SCOTTY is telling the truth ! Crazy how he found out 😂 those are some crazy kept secret. Sometimes we get trade in especially now take a picture put it online, then someone try’s to come buy it . We sell it wash it and never even look at the condition of the car . Just polish it up spray paint the bottom
And BOOM! CERTIFIED LIKE NEW 🤣. A week later they come in with an engine problem and service says oh use the extended warranty and then they get denied for a replacement 😅
theres one of these "certified" Toyota used car places by me...i went around the back of the shop and they had 3 totalled cars that they had obviously bought for peanuts that would have been shiny new on the forecourt next month
AGE is the major reason a car can not get certified, a junker that is 4 years old is OK but a 6 year old prefect machine will not.
@@brooksteer5629 i live in Thailand ..this was a toyota s/h plac with the certified signs everywhere...buyin cars here..nobody ever has the service history...repairing cars is cheap due to labour costs being so low...thais are all about the shiny paint rather than whether its been totalled or the km turned back
@@toriless yes you are right . Those are the ones I’m talking about lol
Wow, everyone has a story..
I used to work at Hyundai for a year and this is absolutely true, we bought cars for 1 Dollar and sold them B2B for 500 dollars, and other used cars we sold were also above most people's expectations
Hyundais are barely worth a dollar
I spent a short time writing sub prime loans and those with the worst credit usually pay the highest price, both on the sticker and on the payout. Also, certain dealers were known to inflate prices. Most people don't read what they are signing and that's on them.
SCOTTY CAN REALLY HOLD AN AUDIENCE! HE'S GOT A SPECIAL GIFT, BACKED UP WITH TONS KNOWLEDGE AND LOADS OF EXPERIENCE !
When you have John ritters haircut and rod Stewart's voice you can do anything
The problem with buying from a private party now is how few of them there are. There used to be a huge supply of private party 15 to 30 years ago. It seems like people don’t want strangers coming to their house anymore or deal with the scammers. I hate paying sales tax with a dealer but sometimes you are just forced to go that route, but at least check the kbb private value and only buy from a dealer that is close or at that price. You will be surprised at some of the deals you can get from a dealer
In California you have to pay tax on a used car from a private party. So they got tax from the first purchase, and continue to charge tax every time another person buys it
@@Doobee80 california sucks
Just fabricate a small price during paperwork at the dmv like $500 or so so the tax fee wont be stupid high.
I wouldn't buy a expensive car from a unknown seller, due to risk and safety reasons. Dealers offer financing also. Check their reputation and ratings online first.
I bought a used car from a Ford dealership. It had only 3200 miles and was a 2015 Titanium Focus with every upgrade possible. But it was put into service in 2016. So the factory warranty was from June 2016 to June 2019. Since it was still under its factory warranty; I extended it with a Ford ESP for 8 years. So now it's under a Ford warranty (not dealership). I only paid $12,000 for a car that originally was $23,000. But the dealer couldn't sell it because it was October 2018 and the car was 3 years old, (the owner's estate had sold it back to the dealer). So I got a good deal from a Ford dealer and ended up with a beautiful car that runs great and still looks new and is under a Ford ESP until 2024.
ESP?
Extended Service Plan
Some years ago I picked up a rusty 1987 Ford escort with 60,000 miles on it at a used car dealership for $800. I got over 100,000 trouble free miles out of that piece of junk before the head gasket failed.
Those had emission device troubles. So they were a pain in NY State (with passing inspection).
You were very lucky.
I just got a 2022 civic Sport and as soon as I get to the Senior Finance Manager in the back he gladly explained ALL the benefits of cosmetic, mechanical plans, GAP, you name it that cost thousands for x amount of years and after he said all that, I just kindly said "no thank you" and he literally flipped, changed his attitude. He even became sarcastic and said that "you'll probably end up breaking the car and needing that GAP" and I smiled and signed everything-he just showed me the door angrily that he didn't make commission
I worked at a mechanics shop for a few years. I worked in the office. I dealt with the customers, making sure they knew the prices, also know what they were getting. Shop bought some vehicles and put them to street legal and essentially stock or improved over original design. Customers who bought them, usually came back for a second purchase from the shop. I made a commission for each sale, but never did shady deals to make myself or the shop liable.
Thank you for the great advise Scotty. In 2016, the company I was working for started offering a vehicle allowance, but required you to have or purchase a vehicle that was no more than five model years old. I needed a reliable car quick, but I didn’t want to pay an arm and a leg. I bought a 2014 Toyota Corolla from Hertz with ~30k miles on it for ~12k. That was more than I would’ve paid had I bought it used from a private party, but still significantly cheaper than I would’ve paid for a “Certified Preowned” Corolla from a Toyota dealership here in Houston 🤘🏽It’s still my daily driver and has around 150k miles on it now. Zero problems. It was a great purchase.
I have a 2016 Toyota Corolla S... sounds like we both got pretty good deals.. 👍
I used to work at a lincoln dealer that rented cars at a different location. They would sell them at 25000 miles. Had to prep them for their used car lot and all of them had their original oil in them. FActory painted oil filter.
That is horrific
._.
I usually hit 1 year before the 10K for synthetic oil but clearly 25K is abusive.
Omg...
bruuuuuhhhhh atleast you can save them
Every car I've ever owned came from private sellers and I've never once been disappointed. about 15 years ago I bought a litttle 1990 Mazda Protégé for $400. I changed the oil and fluids and drove that thing everywhere for nearly 6 years.
You are so right!
Me too!
I bought a car from a dealer two years ago and have regretted it.
We love you, Scotty, for what you teach us. Getting someone to check out the vehicle will not only let you know something bad, but also something good. The seller didn't tell me that he just put a knew trans in it. I was able to talk him down a little letting him know it needs knew tires and something else minor, but letting him know he had a good vehicle here worth something. He let me have the price I wanted. It was a chevy Suburban. Good car for long family trips, but the trans did go out and I found out that the trans on these things go out about every 100,000 miles and that one didn't make it and I am not an abusive driver. I am learning from you Scotty and I like Toyotas. Planning to get one soon again, since I have had been in the 2 wrecks totaled by reckless drivers within 2 years. The last one was my Toyota 4runner. Loved that thing. It worked just fine. We loaded her down for a camping trip to the mountains and back.
I did buy a SUV from Hertz recently ( broke my own rule) but it was a current model year vehicle that had been in service for ~6 months and had 19K miles on it. I figured it spent a lot of time on the highway, so not a hard city use case.
Had it checked out by a mechanic and 3 years later, it has been trouble free.
That was a lease vehicle bought at auction sold by hertz. How do I know? Cuz I work for their competitor and we also do that, it’s the only way we get low mileage vehicles that are under 30k. But yeah buying a used vehicle from a rental place is not at all a bad idea.
Joe Saboto; Hello. I have often thought of buying my "next" vehicle from a Rental Car company such as Hertz or Avis, etc. for the simple reason that I know that myself when I have rented a car (Usually via Sears Rental Cars, years ago) I have treated that Rental car much better than my own P.O.V. --- why? Because I did NOT want to get 'dinged" by their inspection checker when I returned the rental and pay a "fine" or a "fee". I assume that many other customers of Rental Car companies think the same way.
Thankfully, I have not needed to buy a new (newer) vehicle because my 1993 Chevy 3/4 ton, V-8, 4x4 is still functioning. YAY! 🙂
@@gusloader123 they are maintained very well. As they have to be. Fun fact, if you go look at a 1-3 year old vehicle at any other dealer the vehicle was most likely a rental anyways. They get their stock from us. They could not survive on their lease returns. Buying a rental vehicle in my opinion is the way to go.
@@mrselfdestruct1180 i bought 2 cars from Hertz, one was 2 years old with 18,000 miles and one was 2 years old with 24,000 miles. been lucky, so far.
@@gusloader123 i'm the same...when i rent a car, i make sure to be careful in it because i don't want to get dinged, either. on the other hand, my brother-in-law does donuts and other vile crap to his rentals. some people are just a-holes.
I worked for a dealership in Arizona for a long time, and the video above is 10000000000000000% correct.
The dealership is in business to screw you up, especially if you are buying used. Pay a little more for monthly payments on a brand-new car, and run away from used cars. There are two huge culprits that you should not even go to their dealership... CARMAX, and CARVANA.
Whats it like selling to carmax as opposed to other places?
@@Rurike They steal your car with a fixed price and their cars that they do sell are 4-5k more than any other dealer.....it's for people with bad credit. They will take anyone.
I think I lucked up. I got a passat in 2019 from Carvana, no issues yet
@@alicia_nicole Is not about issues, but the amount of money you gave them in order to purchase your car.
actually got a really nice kia Sorento from Carvana the price was perfect and so is this car I'm very happy with my purchase @@richardandretti2680
All of the things scotty has mentioned in this video are true, and they are also true when dealing with private individuals. With private individuals instead of adding on fees they will tend to think it's worth 1k+ more than its worth
Always get a pre purchase inspection
Especially these days. Everyone has heard that "used cars are worth more than new" and price with that thought in their heads. I'm sure there are deals out there, but you've got to be lucky or do a lot of driving around, seeing what's available offline hoping you're in a large enough town to find what you want. Ultimately no seller is obligated to sell for what the buyer thinks is fair. There are a lot of stupid thoughts out there on both sides of the buyer/seller aisle!
And they don’t do ANY maintenance they list it for what the dealerships list it for with no inspection and no oil change. Don’t be dumb.
@@ashfordj81 Yep private sales are for people with patience and knowledge, you might go thru 15025 people to finally find "the old lady selling her corolla shes driven for 5k miles a year for 1k under blue book" then the engine breaks because she never once got an oil change
Or just Check the car yourself... dummies
@@LibsareTRASH Not every person is a mechanic, and some who think they are do check nearly as throughly as they think they do.~$100 is a pretty small fee to pay. Its like why pay anyone to do anything ever
I rented from an agency. Within 24 hours, I'm driving on highway, go to adjust rear view mirror, it comes off. I reported it straightaway and when I returned it, a fewweeks later, I get a letter, they tried charging me. Fortunately, I glread em the riot act.
Many takeaways, one for sure :Always take footage of every inch of a rental before you drive it off the lot and get the name of the rep who did the walk-around and gave you the keys.
I've bought used before. I'm an electro-mechanical technician. I work on industrial machinery. I have a good eye. My most recent buy was a 2012 BMW 335i. I bought it even though it was a theft. But first, I drove it. I personally inspected it from top to bottom. Checked everything. It still had the plastics on the bottom, fully intact. It ran as smooth as a brand-new car. Everything worked electronically. It is heavily optioned. It was as is, no warranty. It had 28k on the odometer. I always take a good sniff of the exhaust and it smelled lovely. No oil burning. The inside of the exhaust pipes were clean as they should be. A little drip of water at idles every once in a while, is a great sign. Paint inside the engine bay and on the frame was all consistent. All plug wires were consistently aged. Every bolt head I can see showed no signs of being removed. Oil pan and intake pan seals intact, no leaks. No smell of gasoline at all. Brake pads all consistently worn. All brake discs consistent. Computer shows nothing wrong. Water in radiator overfill tank nice and clean. I'm sure I'm missing some things, but you can find a good deal if you know what to look for. Today the car has 139k on the odometer and still runs like new.
You bought a used BMW. Says a lot about you
@@brettcannon74 I've bought 2 used bmw's. So, I guess that says a whole lot about me. You must know me like the back of your hand just by my buying used bmw's.
@@brettcannon74 What does it say?
@@brettcannon74 enlighten us please
Seen a Cadillac they want 6,500 and it has 153,000 miles is that a good deal I think it's a bad one
The fine print on most of those extended warranties also says "If a wearable part damages a non-wearable part, it's not covered". I refused to get the extended warranties, and let me tell you, the car dealerships treat you like hot garbage when you turn down all of that extra garbage they try to tack on.
Years ago I was friends with a man who owned a used dealership.
He provided a "nationwide" warranty.
I saw this same name warranty at all the other dealers.
I wrongly presumed it meant "buy it, I'm covered"
He privately told me basically it's to cover a bare minimum (things most people wouldn't bother trying to claim) and major blowouts aren't covered.
You need to know whether or not it's what you want.
My friend also showed me a few of the magic tricks used to make old tired look fresh and new, and he only did the minimum level of hiding problems he just made the interior and tires.
Since that time I've learned that (corner lot "dealers" (flippers)
Hide all kinds of problems like Scotty describes.
Power wash off the evidence of the excessive oil leaks, oil additives to hide engine noise, etc. hide the evidence that the steering rack is pretty much toast etc
You buy it very inflated prices then in a month or two you take it for service then the magic oil they used is swapped out for the standard stuff, your battery turns out to be soon done, the tires just squeaked past safety and of course that clank when you close your door turns out to be from a collision, and it's not "need adjust buddy, no problem" 'the car body is warped, why'd you buy this junker' (I'm exaggerating a little but definitely seen it in real life)
I bought a used car from Renton Honda in Seattle area. I was told if I don't get the extended warranty, I can't get the best finance rate. I was young back then and didn't know better so I paid the $1k for the extended warranty on a $10k car. Even "reputable dealers" are shady. I learned after that I got screwed. Dealer can't be trusted since even on new car purchases. I will literally read every word in in the buy contract before I sign. If contract is different than what the sales guy said, they just laugh it off and say it was an "honest mistake." Makes me wonder how many customers they've screwed over the years.
I bought a 3 year extended warranty for my ford mustang , it’s already paid itself off in repair costs. 😅
In regards to the Carfax, it won't show unreported collisions. Any time a police report is filed, or an insurance claim is made, it would show. *Edit* Correction: A filed claim doesn’t report it, but an estimate written will.
A police report is not a necessity and if people can they'll avoid making a claim to their insurance and pay themselves.
Actually 9 times out of 10 an Insurance claim doesn’t pop on Carfax, and the only way a written estimate might is IF that particular shop is tied into Carfax’s system. However Carfax is absolutely garbage. Wife’s 2019 Camry XSE was rear ended by a GMC truck. State Trooper came out and wrote the report, so it automatically popped up on the report. However 13k in damages with 10+ hours of frame repair time, and in 8 months I never could get them to actually list the frame damage. Now some unsuspecting person has bought it from a Toyota dealer, and at some point they are gonna get a nasty surprise. I’m sure the weird rear tire wear and not quite driving straight will give it away.
To be certain there isn't any hidden collisions on a vehicle. Go to the DMV with the vin number and or plate number.
It is possible to find a good car for a good price. Eight years ago I bought a 2002 Acura RL for $4,000 from a small used car lot. It had one owner who took care of it. I took for a drive, once I got away from the lot I jacked it up and crawled under it and inspected it, it was gorgeous. Popped the hood and everything looked great. It drove perfectly. The interior was as good as could be hoped for considering the car was 14 years old or so and had 110k miles. I've been driving that car every day since then and it still runs like a dream.
Any tips for us that don't know what to look for when buying a car . Looking for one now and i car look at the engine and not know what's wrong especially if the seller cleaned the engine up
I had a used car salesman with a used car with 120000 miles. Probably worth $10000. His price was $4000. I asked why and he said it had been in an accident. Carfax showed no accidents. The dealer showed me the repairs and stated the car was solid and the repairs were solid. I bought the car and 8 years and 100000miles later, it is still running. There are honest used car salesmen out there. They are rare so if you find one, keep them around.
I wish we had more Scottys in the automotive field. Thank you for the great video Scotty.
What would you call a group of Scotty’s in a field ,,, “ here we see rant of Scotty’s in their natural habitat “ 🥴
They need a Scotty in every city lol
Yeah everyone would be driving Miata’s!
I bought a car from Avis at 32k, 2 years old at $18k. I had a couple of weeks to test drive it, no charge, unless I decided not to buy it, then the rental fee applies. I’m quite happy with it, no major problems other general maintenance. I’ve driven 147k on it so far now, it’s been 6 years since I bought it. The process in buying it was quite easy, no issues. Financing offered was low. The downside, the paperwork was thick. You have to read everything it says before signing each clause. I had to keep after Avis financing company to get the new plates and registration to me. It took about 6 weeks. Pet peeve, no spare tire or jack.
I'd rather get kicked in the lower regions than deal with car dealers. We traded with a local big 3 dealership and I feel violated unable to sit down. Nothing is worse than trading cars, not prostrate exams, not root canals, nothing.
Scotty is an invaluable treasure. I love eveything about him and his channel. So informative, funny and genuine.
I just bought an 02 Lexus RX300 for $800 with 205k miles. Was misfiring. Replaced $15 camshaft sensor and ran smooth. Best $800 I've ever spend. Now just doing regular tune ups on it. Perfect $800 daily driver.
a couple of years ago, my wife and I went car shopping at a Toyota dealership looking for a used Ford Escape.. And we found one there.. We test drove it, when we got back to discuss the vehicle, I asked the salesman if it had been through their 'vigorous' multi-point inspection.. He said most definitely, "We inspect every vehicle, its our policy, AND we also changed the oil before putting it out on the lot.' So, I opened the hood.. Everything looked clean except I couldn't find the oil dipstick. Until I looked closer, and there it was right in front of the engine but the handle was broken off and there was no way to even grab it with pliers to pull it out and check it.. How the heck do you change the oil on a vehicle and not actually check the levels during the process? And I tell you, the break on the top of the dipstick was not a fresh break... That MOFO was broken for a very long time.. So, I asked to see the carfax... As you say, the carfax is worthless... The carfax showed that there was only one previous owner of the vehicle, and all the maintenance records showed until the original free maintenance plan ran out and the owner had to start paying for oil changes.. After that, no more reporting of when the oil change happened again.. Some one broke the handle off, and I would venture to guess, never changed the oil after that.
I know a mechanic that worked with me, then left to go work for a national rental company. He told me that if the cars come in and business gets pushed for cars. Some of the cars won't get serviced for about 10,000 miles
I sold cars for only a few months in the 90’s. We were told to call used rental cars “Short Term Lease Cars” most had around 12,000 miles on them.
1:00 - In some states, such as GA, those 'fluff fees' are flat out 100% illegal. It is a law that is not enforced, obviously, and when you literally lay the printed law in front of them they act completely gobsmacked.
Of course, if they put those fees inside the advertised price it's perfectly legal... but to 'beat the other dealer' they leave them out and, with that omission, you can yank a good chunk of their profit right from under them.
I've done it repeatedly, and report any dealership that refuses to back down (I record all such transactions and use that in my complaint). Thus far I have only managed to get one franchise dealer shut down (Ford) by the manufacturer. I've had multiple BBB complaints 'resolved' - but always between the BBB and the dealership, NEVER with my involvement. That just shows you the BBB is firmly in the pocket of business, not consumers.
When I finally do make a purchase It's thousands below sticker, much less the fluff, because they realize how much power I had in that print out.
All the information that Scotty gives us are worth billions