Don't Buy a USED CAR Until You WATCH THIS | How to Negotiate

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    Ray runs into his doppelganger Raymundo at Gotcha Motors Puerto Rico, where he tries to buy a 2018 Toyota Camry Hybrid. Will he be able to negotiate down Raymundo's absurdly inflated initial offer?
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  • @silence7113
    @silence7113 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    Goes from 18k plus fees to 22.5k...Raymundo really gave it to Ray 👉👌

    • @AKWX
      @AKWX 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      😂😂😂 he sure did

    • @inquiry9722
      @inquiry9722 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Raymundo has no choice! He has to keep paying for that villa in Puerto Rico. Think of the sells man! 😂

    • @Staticarcher
      @Staticarcher 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think 22.5k was what Ray was willing to pay the entire time. Giving a much lower number in the beginning made it easier to trick the dealership to agree to what he wanted. Kinda smart.

    • @vettebro7004
      @vettebro7004 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For real lol .😅

    • @AKWX
      @AKWX 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Staticarcher car was priced at 19k after fees it would be 23k so that's not deal . He came out with fair price but he could went lower .

  • @yippeekaiyaymofo
    @yippeekaiyaymofo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Ray reaching to remove/ put on the hat is my favorite

    • @mr.300c
      @mr.300c 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Facts! Hahaha!😅

  • @BlueBeeMCMLXI
    @BlueBeeMCMLXI 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I bought a hand-made carpet once from Iranian traders - for half their asking - by walking away. They sent the fastest guy to stop me. It's a wonderful artwork I still have.

  • @ElDarren
    @ElDarren 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I can't believe how much back and forth is involved with negotiating a car deal. These videos are very helpful for learning where to spot the BS

  • @bryanrulz3904
    @bryanrulz3904 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    This video demonstrates how tragically outdated the entire car buying process is. This was SPOT ON to my experience when going to a car dealership/lot. It's an unnecessary song and dance that every salesperson seems hell bent on having with you. I just don't understand it. Buying a car shouldn't take being held hostage for several hours before agreeing to a fair price that is somehow presented to the buyer as them doing you a favor!

    • @gtech66
      @gtech66 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Car salespeople are considered the worst orst people to deal with. Crooked to the end. When you buy groceries at the store, the cashier doesn't try to sell you on transportation and delivery fees. Why do car dealerships do this?,? Because they can. The industry needs to be regulated, and the bad actors need to be fined heavily or go out of business. It's the wild wild west when having to buy or sell a vehicle.

    • @animeking801
      @animeking801 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This highlights the need for us to move into a manufacturer-direct buying process (online) cutting out all those exorbitant fees and providing honest advertising of prices.

  • @Funkydood
    @Funkydood 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I got my wife a 2023 KIA Sportage with 11,411 miles on it; the original asking price (when new) was $33,800.00 I purchased it for $25,210.00; 9-year, 88 thousand mile warranty left on it.

    • @AndriyFomenko
      @AndriyFomenko 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      extended warranty may be non transferable, check on that

    • @GokuInstinct1
      @GokuInstinct1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sales guy must have been crazy or you knew him. Taking off $8k on a car is unheard of. What did you say/offer to make them discount it that much?

  • @gtech66
    @gtech66 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    It is good to see Gotcha Motors expanding internationally.

    • @BlueBeeMCMLXI
      @BlueBeeMCMLXI 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep!

    • @LegitimateJuice
      @LegitimateJuice 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Puerto Rico is a part of the United States

  • @FlaskBlack
    @FlaskBlack 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thank you guys for doing these videos. I just bought a new car at a dealership that has always been considered "honest" and I guess to their credit they were. They tried to tack on a few of the extra BS fees but as soon as I called them on it, they took them off without any arguments or hassle. I think the best part was watching the light in the finance manager's eyes die when he knew they weren't going to be able to get anything out of me that wasn't necessary. Goes to show, even the best and most respected dealers will still try to add unnecessary fees. Do your research and stand your ground. Thanks again.

  • @Kevin-mk6jo
    @Kevin-mk6jo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Enjoy your vacation Ray!!!
    hat on.... hat off!!! 😂

  • @enjoylife7030
    @enjoylife7030 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Nope. No deal. That is not a reasonable price for a car advertised under $20K. The dealer is still winning by collecting all the reconditioning and certification fees. All in with taxes and registration fees the price should still be under $22K. I have bought 3 used cars within the past 3 years and I did not waiver from the advertised price. 2 of the cars I was able to get a small discount from the advertised price. If you absolutely needed the car this week then maybe I could justify the price offered at the end but otherwise I would leave my contact information and keep shopping. The car in the video has plenty of other inventory on dealer lots right now. When you are selling a used item you never list the vehicle at the lowest possible price you will take as the selling dealer.

    • @IshanBains
      @IshanBains 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      100% agreed! I got myself a 2007 Camry back in 2021 for only $3k all cash from marketplace. No dealer fee nothing and it had 190k on it and now it’s at 230k and still going strong 💪

  • @josephszot5545
    @josephszot5545 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I thought when the salesmen told you $26,000. The next words I would hear is the salesmen asking, "Ray, where you going"?

  • @KylerBorn
    @KylerBorn 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Stealership's new scam is the reconditioning fee. One Lexus stealership wanted $3500 for reconditioning fee 🤣 on top of bunch of other fees

  • @crokett5861
    @crokett5861 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Buying a vehicle nowadays is like a battle of wills. It shouldn’t be.

  • @JanelleA.
    @JanelleA. 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love this video! 😊 Thank you for the valuable demonstration!

  • @bigdog1150
    @bigdog1150 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Smooth move Ray. Vaca is now a business expense. 🤣

    • @rtygrest
      @rtygrest 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Comment of the day

  • @k012957
    @k012957 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I still don't understand. When Ray suggests $18K OTD, where did that number come from? And, why was Ray willing to go up to $22.5K?

  • @lsones7588
    @lsones7588 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Ray…too much fun! Enjoy your vacation.

  • @kentbreakie2952
    @kentbreakie2952 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video. Both informative and entertaining.

  • @bp39047
    @bp39047 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I use KBB average trade-in value as a starting point to determine what a decent offer might be. Yes, there are other ways to get this information, but all cost $$$. In many most cases I find the difference between KBB average trade-in value and their price too far to a bridge to close the gap enough to even begin negotiations. Vast majority will not move off their very fixed price. Noting worse than paying of a vehicle that is worth $$$$$ less after the purchase. For very best example is currently a Toyota dealership is advertising a 2020 Highlander Limited for ~$200 over the original MSRP with 78k miles with a KBB average trade in value of only $27k.

  • @caltiki3090
    @caltiki3090 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ray Y T M !! You the Man !! Enjoy the vacation !! Luv u guys !!

  • @DonMachado
    @DonMachado 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    As soon as Raymundo started with the games, I'd have been out the door then. It's totally not worth the stress and time to haggle with some yutz that's not playing straight with me.

    • @sherryp7408
      @sherryp7408 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👍🏾 lol😂

  • @redsribbon7329
    @redsribbon7329 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks so much for providing all of this valuable information! Love!!!! "Failure to communicate".

  • @tonyhernandez8212
    @tonyhernandez8212 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent display!!!!! Thanks

  • @darmstadtjudy4327
    @darmstadtjudy4327 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This video is so good. 😊

  • @S.L.S-407
    @S.L.S-407 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    HI guys. Just wanted to let you know the crap we have to deal with in Ontario Canada. I was looking for a 2020 Honda HRV. I saw this and it's not out of line with other numbers. To get you in the door for the sport version they advertise a price of $ 27,962 with mileage of 39,626 kilometers = 24,622 miles. They point out that this is a GREAT DEAL and it is $2,604. below market value. So aren't I the buyer lucky not to have to pay the REAL price of
    $30,566. ? But wait a moment, that $27,962 doesn't include provincial sales tax of 13% which will make the price $ 31,597.06 and that's BEFORE financing charges which will have an interest rate of 8.99%. For simplicity sake, there is no downpayment. The monthly payment will be= $ 649.42 !
    Firstly this is a SUB compact SUV. Secondly, it's FIVE YEARS OLD ! It seems these vehicles are NOT depreciating in value like you mentioned in an other video. I think this is insane ❗❗❗

  • @James-ql8bo
    @James-ql8bo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I've been looking for a vehicle for my wife and after watching your videos i have asked several dealerships for an OTD price on certain vehicles and i have yet to get any of the dealers to give me a OTD price. 😂 what crooks

  • @quantumjim45
    @quantumjim45 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    GREAT role play! Now what do you get from the dealer to document your agreement about price, fees and having a day for a PPI?

  • @FunWithCars716
    @FunWithCars716 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hello everyone from Buffalo Niagara Falls NY USA 👋🇺🇲

  • @bettiehanak1653
    @bettiehanak1653 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wee need more videos like this love it. So many of us to know how to negotiate

  • @jbrown21m
    @jbrown21m 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    LOL Brilliant Ray. Great info too.

  • @auto-generated-comment
    @auto-generated-comment 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would love to see a video like this with something more difficult to negotiate like a used 4Runner

  • @kenolmstead4516
    @kenolmstead4516 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Raymundo you did good but still left 💲💲 on the table. I hope you made them print out the CPO warranty so they don't trash that.👍👍👍

  • @Brian-dr2yi
    @Brian-dr2yi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the best question is how do you figure your numbers?how do you know what is a reasonable price.

  • @toml9647
    @toml9647 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can get invoice for vehicle I'm considering, but . . . is there any way to get the invoice for manufacturer's options? If not, is there any way I can use a "normal" markup to estimate the invoice, e.g., a 15% markup. If it matters, I'm looking at a Forester or Crosstrek.

  • @kwilliams1958
    @kwilliams1958 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the Boston Album shout out!

  • @bettysuelong4268
    @bettysuelong4268 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Make more like this…

  • @deuceiscool
    @deuceiscool 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Listing for 18, I wouldn't have done that deal at 22,5.

  • @user-fj1ot2ls6f
    @user-fj1ot2ls6f 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Tgat $250 at the end would have been the end of it. I wouldn't want to give him my business after that. This is one reason I hate car dealers.

    • @gtech66
      @gtech66 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Everyone hates car salespeople. They are slugs in human form.

    • @AJ-js1vm
      @AJ-js1vm 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Or say it's now $21,500 since you pissed me off. =)

  • @BuckRogers2000
    @BuckRogers2000 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I LOVE the voice of EXPERIENCE - Also, the gentle reminder that NOTHING is free!

  • @Kelsbell
    @Kelsbell 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a senior and when I retired I gave my vehicle to my granddaughter who was attending college who by the way just graduated and she's not even 21 yet.
    I thought I could get along without a vehicle but decided I needed one.
    I found one listed for 4990.
    I was approved for financing & on the application I put I was going to do a thousand down. When I spoke to the woman over there she stated the lender wants 1800 down I said okay no problem. I told her I didn't renew my driver's license that I'd have to go do that but I wanted to come down and look at the vehicle. She told me that would be another $300 on top of it because of that.
    Then she told me my payments would be $280 a month. I said my God what is the bottom line then she said there is none I said forget it and I hung up. I did a review on them and stated they are crooks and they took it down.
    The vehicle listed was approximately 1500 under the actual retail price of it.
    Is there anything more I can do? I was thinking about having a friend call up there and seeing what they tell them as far as the price goes. Please advise

  • @justanobservation3423
    @justanobservation3423 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Seems They'Gotcha Ray. Saying you have a budget of $20K and accepting a final price of $22.5K tells me this video did not give me good negotiating advice.

  • @JoePvpii
    @JoePvpii 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now can you do a second part to this, when many of us have to deal with the finance part of it. How would we not get taken advantage of during the finance part?

  • @attila7092
    @attila7092 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In my experience with salesmen they would try selling you a totally different car for your budget

  • @DavismTXAG98
    @DavismTXAG98 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Flipping between Cool Hand Luke and Cray-cray is such a special journey ...

  • @GlennLaycock
    @GlennLaycock 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yeah - you have to know when that "come on this is not what we were talking about" - and you know it was smoke and mirrors. Who wants to buy from a dealer or person who is not up front and is doing the song and dance instead of having true communication.

  • @seanoconnell5443
    @seanoconnell5443 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice weather in PR...

  • @zero0421
    @zero0421 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to be able to negotiate the free advertising! I am paying you, to promote your company vehicle and logo every time I drive. I have seriously considered removing the logo brand form my next vehicle.

  • @jasonfuller499
    @jasonfuller499 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Screw that. I'm going back to Enterprise or Criswell

  • @C-LOST
    @C-LOST 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought a used car at a Toyota dealer and after a week they told me I needed to come back to sign a new contract. When I arrived at the dealership they told me I could not back out of the deal and that I needed to sign the new contract and that the new contract was at a lower rate, making my monthly payments lower. I had already spoken to another dealership and they had told me that If I didn't want the car I didn't have to sign the new contract and I could just return the keys.
    When I arrived at the dealership and I told them I didn't want the car anymore then they brought down every single sales person to talk to me...including the " god of managers" they kept telling me I had to sign the new contract and that I had no other choice because it was against the law not to sign it. The cool thing was that the other dealer's sales person was on the phone listening and he would tell me what to say back....in the end I gave them the keys and walk away and that was it.
    I honestly expected the dealerships to be more honest.

  • @singharyak7668
    @singharyak7668 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A dealer is asking my full address to give me an OTD. Are they trying to run my credit without me knowing? They already have my zip and city.

  • @Staticarcher
    @Staticarcher 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think 22.5k was what Ray was willing to pay the entire time. Giving a much lower number in the beginning made it easier to trick the dealership to agree to what he wanted. Kinda smart.

  • @sdoraiswamy93
    @sdoraiswamy93 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it a red flag if the dealer will only let me do the PPI if the mechanic comes to the dealership? He did say that they’ll lift the car up and let the mechanic drive the car around

  • @nategohawks1535
    @nategohawks1535 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is Gap Insurance on a new car actually worth it or no? I got a new car and was debating on NOT getting it on a new vehicle but idk….

    • @zackpedersen2666
      @zackpedersen2666 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ll give you my take on this. Like you, I believe that GAP insurance is a scam. I still do.
      With that said, I bought a 2023 Jeep Compass Sport back on New Year’s Eve (2023 -> 2024). On Friday, April 26th; I was struck by a company truck running a red light with the driver operating the vehicle with a suspended/revoked license. Long story short, I basically had somebody dump a full chamber pot over my head and tell me to F’ OFF. Everybody including insurance companies all determined that I was 110% not at fault.
      I did not have GAP insurance. I did get minor injuries (sprained ankle) and did not have full tort on my insurance.
      As much as I believe things to be a scam, get Full TORT and GAP on your insurance. It’s cheaper through your insurance than it is through the dealer.

  • @wickedlynaughty7352
    @wickedlynaughty7352 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😂🤣😂Cray - Cray. Real talk!

  • @keithkamps77
    @keithkamps77 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Screw that, walk away!!!!!!

  • @stevenoberg4277
    @stevenoberg4277 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That video makes me never want to go to a dealership again. Or talk to a salesperson on the phone.

  • @josephkelleher8820
    @josephkelleher8820 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I wouldn't have paid $22,500 out the door for that car. The maximum I would have paid is $19,500 out the door.

  • @mcwithmc
    @mcwithmc 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When a dealership adds that level of fees to the advertised price, I call them crooks and walk. If they lie about the price, why would I expect them to be honest about anything else?

  • @IshanBains
    @IshanBains 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got myself a 2007 Camry gas back in 2021 for only $3k all cash from marketplace. No dealer fee nothing and it had 190k on it and now it’s at 230k and still going strong.
    The whole dealership process is absolutely nuts! Why can’t we just buy directly from the owner?
    I am not going to any dealership until Toyota decides to sell directly to customers or else it’s going to be marketplace lol

    • @rtygrest
      @rtygrest 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or Tesla. Lol.

  • @TheFabbLife
    @TheFabbLife 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣

  • @KarlBuckley-bw3vc
    @KarlBuckley-bw3vc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The trick is to edit the grabbing of the hat out of the shots 😂

    • @rtygrest
      @rtygrest 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That makes it more fun

    • @mr.300c
      @mr.300c 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah it's perfect hahaha

  • @rickderoehn2630
    @rickderoehn2630 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    raymundo seems like a shady character

  • @thegonz7833
    @thegonz7833 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    its realistic how it goes. $4250 BUMP ,just like that.

  • @waltblackadar4690
    @waltblackadar4690 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't negotiate like that. The minute they lumped all that tommyrot in the price I'd be gone. I'd pay more for a similar at CarMax just to not put up with that kind of foolishness and dishonesty.

  • @envman67
    @envman67 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If someone was trying to sell me a vehicle for $19,000 and then they turned around and offered me $26,000 price tag with fees included. I would’ve told him to F off and walked out the dealership. Even if he said wait a minute come back I would’ve just given my middle finger and kept going. This is the only way dealerships are going to stop this nonsense with the additional fee crap. you have to put your foot down and do not budge.
    Who are determined to buy a car if you do not walk away three times you lost money. Be prepared to walk away. Especially in today’s car and climate. Two years ago that wouldn’t have worked, but now we’re getting back to pre-Covid buying climate.

  • @MR3DDev
    @MR3DDev 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would have said: Ray that is the price you pay for buying a car in a beautiful beach like this.

  • @waynegarrison2481
    @waynegarrison2481 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ALL dealers RIP customer's off...been there done that.

  • @Doozler
    @Doozler 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best video ever

  • @robruns262
    @robruns262 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope Ray got paid double for this video 😂

    • @rtygrest
      @rtygrest 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Zero times zero. 😂

  • @annalee7403
    @annalee7403 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Makes me never want to deal with these scumbags.

  • @SweetNeoCon407
    @SweetNeoCon407 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And boom! Deduct the vacation on your taxes as a business expense.

  • @swgeek4310
    @swgeek4310 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The car buying process is so dated and not current with the times. Why are we doing this song and dance. Here is what I want to spend and what I am looking for. its 2024 where you can buy a car online if you wanted to, Sales folks are essentially obsolete. And all the made up fees are a insult. Get rid of them, include in my asking price or other wise good guy. The industry needs desperatly to get up with the times.

  • @zaxus211
    @zaxus211 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    piece of mind by iron maiden would have killed.

  • @tradermunky1998
    @tradermunky1998 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can tell Ray made it to his bikini weight target for the trip.

  • @davidcoffey6413
    @davidcoffey6413 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I enjoy you guys but this video was a complete waste of time.

  • @jp23x
    @jp23x 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This video is definitely not for me. I would have never entertained ANY of that bs. Right from the beginning i would have said so.

  • @Brian-dr2yi
    @Brian-dr2yi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stop with the clickbait titles, I'll watch your videos regardless, it makes it seem sleazy and cheap. Your info is above clickbait.

  • @orgnl
    @orgnl 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this a late April Fools video?

  • @EnsignLeeDS9
    @EnsignLeeDS9 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wait what? That's more than the original fake price after taxes and fees!
    No. No deal!!!!

  • @doodaday6914
    @doodaday6914 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Never buy a used car from a dealer and always be willing to walk away, Always