Well, I think that since Flat Iron Lake is not an accessible area on the map like in RDR2, Rockstar decided to just put it as if Flat Iron Lake was different, Flat Iron Lake didn't change, it remains the same in RDR2, Rockstar just didn't update RDR1 to change that.
I love the ambient music from rd1 around tall trees ...real sinister feel.. unnerving... that whole soundtrack has got to be one of the very best in gaming history
@@evangelicae_rationishalf life 2, first person linear game, San Andreas, third person open world with tons of activities. Hmm I wonder why San Andreas has worse graphics
@@lewisofthehoood To be fair, Half-Life 2 physics are more demanding than the entire San Andreas open world. They were considered impossible to be ran on a computer in 2004.
That's crazy you can actually see a part of Ambarino in RDR1, same spot where the prologue takes place in RDR2 and also the same area where John kills Micah in the epilogue.
That's not where the prologue or Micah's death occurs. Those locations are much further north in game. The location in the video is much closer to Owanjila
Yeah, the line where collision ends by northern latitude is somewhere about Riggs Station in RDR2. Closest Ambarino border is about as close as Mexican lands from that point, if you look straight from south to north.
Before Red Dead Redemption 2 was released, I often imagined what lay beyond the northern border, up in the distant mountains. Then, in the sequel, we actually got to explore those mountains. I also used to role-play in Red Dead Redemption what we can now do in Red Dead Redemption 2. Rockstar knew exactly what the fans wanted in a sequel. PS mods in Red Dead Redemption, whaaat?
@@Anonymous-ux8ku it’s lines up along the bank but, I feel like they stretched out the shore too much. I understand lore wise it’s because the dam likely broke in RDR1 since it’s obviously not developed in 2010. But, the climate and elevation are different. The Great Plains has dried up grass across the whole region and it spreads to the eastern part of the north side of the river. Where in 2 the grass gets greener out of nowhere as it gets north while still in Great Plains. And the height difference in 1, you couldn’t see anything from the south side as in 2 you can easily see Riggs, Lone mule stead and other landmarks from the south end. Some of the things made a return but I wish the overall landscape would’ve been used instead of redoing it from the ground up
It would be very interesting if u would make these videos and then put a side by side comparison I hope one of ur newer videos will have that Best of luck mate hope u make more vids!
I like that there are some vague resemblance here and there. At 4:33 you can see the shape of the dskota river and the seats of new hanover and you can see the grizzlies up north.
I was slightly creeped out when I saw the torches for a moment - I didn't play much of Online as a kid, so didn't immediately recognise it. Cool that the area exists to such a capacity in the base game. It actually makes for quite a cool and tranquil spot to visit out of bounds.
I always thought that the place where you modify your character online was in Hennigan's Stead, but I never imagined that it was off the map all this time 😯 :0
This makes me think that instead of creating the map for RDR2 from scratch with the new locations first, that R* initially instead started by porting the original map over and worked their way north east. I originally thought they might've started with the new locations first and finished New Austin last considering it's only explorable in the epilogue and all they really had to do was port over the old map but this makes me thing they actually started here and changed the terrain into whay we now know was Big Valley
If you look at leaked maps, they did start from West Elizabeth onwards, and they didn't even have anything past Thieves Landing. The leaks probably made them finish adding the rest of the US map due to fan expectations, but it's clear they didn't intend to add it, at least not beyond it being scenery like Mexico.
I never noticed the snowy mountains over that way. I also love how there is a big valley there too, makes it clear why they made that part of the map like it is in RDR2.
I remember in online near the top of the map at the train tunnel, I think you either jumped or shot your horse while riding into the left beam of the tunnel to shoot on the mountain, then there was a tree you could jump through and walk thhrough the snow until falling through the map
This is why an RDR1 remake to hold us over to GTA6 wouldve made the most sense. Not only would people then be able to experience Red Dead on the 9th gen, but us PC folks would also be able to without emulating. But on top of that, they also couldve had portions of the RDR2 map in the distance to keep the lore consistent. Maybe have the Montana River be flooded from a storm or something in-universe to make a reason why John cant go back across or something.
They did a pretty good job adapting whatever mess of terrain they had in the edge of the map in RDR1 and making it into a coherent map in 2. Wish the PC port would bring some kind of references or updates to the map from 2, but likely it'll be a 60 fps patch for 50 bucks like PS5 version was, plus, they're all working on GTA 6 so unlikely they have the time to update 1.
@@TrexAintaChicken it’s weird because the heartlands is supposed to be the Dakotas, West Elizabeth is supposed to be Texas, Ambarino is supposed to be like Colorado and Roanoke and the eastern reaches of the grizzlies are supposed to be Appalachia
Even rockstar never thought of the red dead 2 map yet it wouldn't make since for the roads going past the river just to dissappear why not just make the invisible sniper
I’m rather late to this video. But I would love to see out of bounds exploration in the southern region below Mexico. Using glitches, you can go through and out of Mexico in rdr2, it’d be interesting to see that area in rdr1
@@TheKillerDonuts Casino guy #1: Killer donut has been here Casino guy #2: how can you tell? Casino guy #1: Redead remption Like and share if this got a chuckle out of you!😂
@@iceman1287not all out of bound areas are rendered in, only some. Modern day Big Valley and south of Diez Coronas are the most I guess you can say developed out of bound locations. Everywhere else you can take 10 steps and you fall through the map. The rock formation that blocks you from going north past Dutch’s camp has zero collision once you get on top of it. And the way RDR1 was developed the horizon has this weird drag effect that looks like an acid trip so, the dam and the lake can’t even reached at all in 1.
@@_rosolek_ back when rdr1 came out in online rockstar sent a meteor near the great plains and the blackwater area of the map and any players that were there died instantly there were 2 youtube videos that showed the crater which was outside of the map but sadly both were taken down
@@Lion09887 And it's real? Like did it ever really happen? Or it's just some sort of a myth? I never heard about it. Well I never played the multiplayer of the first game either but still it sounds weird
Okay I've read a bit about it. First as people point out it was most likely some glitch. And second it seems like there isn't any fottage of it so I guess now it's more of a legend
@@industrialsocietyanditsfuturea i know but its after the events of rdr2 so i thought it would be funny to say where tf is strawberry even though it isnt there
I like to think of a dark theory why we can't see Strawberry all the way through the end of the map of rdr2 it's because of a natural disaster that destroyed parts of the States that's why we couldn't visit rdr2 map
@@Pro1938ftc3chI would’ve preferred if R* salvaged there original geography and make southern big valley with what they already had instead of recreating west Elizabeth. Even Dutch’s camp is unrecognizable (The layout ain’t the same)
2:04 Yoo that’s who the invisible sniper is! Jack from the future to stop Arthur from going to New Austin!
The best comment 😂
We got Jack as New Austin sniper before GTA 6
I hate you uncle arthur ! (Adult jack voice)
Crazy how the flat iron lake is drastically different in RDR2
Not to mention the fact that Leymone borders Nuevo Paraiso in RDR1
@@iceman1287 ??? no it doesn't
Indirectly, is what I think he meant since the land masses connect together on the map, where Mexico is a separated in RD2 map
That's owanjila.
Well, I think that since Flat Iron Lake is not an accessible area on the map like in RDR2, Rockstar decided to just put it as if Flat Iron Lake was different, Flat Iron Lake didn't change, it remains the same in RDR2, Rockstar just didn't update RDR1 to change that.
I love the ambient music from rd1 around tall trees ...real sinister feel.. unnerving... that whole soundtrack has got to be one of the very best in gaming history
Is nobody gonna talk about how that water physics looks insanely good even for 2010's standards?
Rockstar have always had the best water for the time their games came out. Except GTA 4… The water in that game looks and moves like tar.
This was a 2010 game? Oh dang, I mistook it for RDR2 lol
@@boglurker2043Not at all, to be honest. For example, Half-Life 2 water physics and graphics were way better than San Andreas, both in 2004.
@@evangelicae_rationishalf life 2, first person linear game, San Andreas, third person open world with tons of activities. Hmm I wonder why San Andreas has worse graphics
@@lewisofthehoood To be fair, Half-Life 2 physics are more demanding than the entire San Andreas open world. They were considered impossible to be ran on a computer in 2004.
That's crazy you can actually see a part of Ambarino in RDR1, same spot where the prologue takes place in RDR2 and also the same area where John kills Micah in the epilogue.
That's not where the prologue or Micah's death occurs. Those locations are much further north in game. The location in the video is much closer to Owanjila
Yeah, the line where collision ends by northern latitude is somewhere about Riggs Station in RDR2. Closest Ambarino border is about as close as Mexican lands from that point, if you look straight from south to north.
Ambatukam
Before Red Dead Redemption 2 was released, I often imagined what lay beyond the northern border, up in the distant mountains. Then, in the sequel, we actually got to explore those mountains. I also used to role-play in Red Dead Redemption what we can now do in Red Dead Redemption 2. Rockstar knew exactly what the fans wanted in a sequel. PS mods in Red Dead Redemption, whaaat?
Prequel
It’s good that they kept some of the geography intact like that rock formation north of John’s house
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that
@@Arm2tr0ng yeah I was comparing the contour lines along the river bank from rdr1 to rdr2 and it pretty much lines up
@@Anonymous-ux8ku it’s lines up along the bank but, I feel like they stretched out the shore too much. I understand lore wise it’s because the dam likely broke in RDR1 since it’s obviously not developed in 2010. But, the climate and elevation are different. The Great Plains has dried up grass across the whole region and it spreads to the eastern part of the north side of the river. Where in 2 the grass gets greener out of nowhere as it gets north while still in Great Plains. And the height difference in 1, you couldn’t see anything from the south side as in 2 you can easily see Riggs, Lone mule stead and other landmarks from the south end. Some of the things made a return but I wish the overall landscape would’ve been used instead of redoing it from the ground up
It would be very interesting if u would make these videos and then put a side by side comparison
I hope one of ur newer videos will have that
Best of luck mate hope u make more vids!
Thank you for the positive comment. I'll bring some simpler videos first, then I intend to make this comparison, it's a good suggestion.
Yeah, a comparison video would be great!
Hearing the RDR1 bg music after 14years brings me back to childhood
14?? o hell naw 👴
It’s amazing to see that even in 2010, the template for RDR2’s map is there. Like you can almost recognize it in this video. That’s incredible
Damn i had no idea that the outfitter was located outside the map
Sameeee
I though it was near Blackwater or The Ranch
outfitter?? What are you mean
@@williamzparkerz969 that's what it's called in the game
@@williamzparkerz969 the thing to change caracthers in multiplayer
3:32 I laughted so hard with the smashing aah sound effects and the fast foward hahah
if they remaster RDR1 & 2 for the PS5, they should allow both games to share one humongous map so you can ride from Mexico to Annesburg
Take a good hour to ride to and from shit would be crazy
That would be amazing, imagine how long it would take from the very far end of mexico in rdr1 all the way to the northeasternmost part of the rdr2 map
@YungAtzmaybe the next decade or two?
@YungAtzremake for rdr1, remaster for rdr2
God I miss playing this game when I was young. Living on the countryside and grinding it with friends, especially undead nightmare, was great.
I like that there are some vague resemblance here and there. At 4:33 you can see the shape of the dskota river and the seats of new hanover and you can see the grizzlies up north.
I was slightly creeped out when I saw the torches for a moment - I didn't play much of Online as a kid, so didn't immediately recognise it. Cool that the area exists to such a capacity in the base game. It actually makes for quite a cool and tranquil spot to visit out of bounds.
Thanks for uploading this, I always wanted to know if there was something on the other side but since I play on a console it becomes more difficult
lol u have to play on console cuz this game didn't release on PCs
I always thought that the place where you modify your character online was in Hennigan's Stead, but I never imagined that it was off the map all this time 😯 :0
This makes me think that instead of creating the map for RDR2 from scratch with the new locations first, that R* initially instead started by porting the original map over and worked their way north east. I originally thought they might've started with the new locations first and finished New Austin last considering it's only explorable in the epilogue and all they really had to do was port over the old map but this makes me thing they actually started here and changed the terrain into whay we now know was Big Valley
If you look at leaked maps, they did start from West Elizabeth onwards, and they didn't even have anything past Thieves Landing. The leaks probably made them finish adding the rest of the US map due to fan expectations, but it's clear they didn't intend to add it, at least not beyond it being scenery like Mexico.
I never noticed the snowy mountains over that way. I also love how there is a big valley there too, makes it clear why they made that part of the map like it is in RDR2.
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I remember in online near the top of the map at the train tunnel, I think you either jumped or shot your horse while riding into the left beam of the tunnel to shoot on the mountain, then there was a tree you could jump through and walk thhrough the snow until falling through the map
It’s kind of rare how Owanjila disappeared
Beyond the map is like looking at a extremely underdeveloped RDR2.
This is why an RDR1 remake to hold us over to GTA6 wouldve made the most sense. Not only would people then be able to experience Red Dead on the 9th gen, but us PC folks would also be able to without emulating. But on top of that, they also couldve had portions of the RDR2 map in the distance to keep the lore consistent. Maybe have the Montana River be flooded from a storm or something in-universe to make a reason why John cant go back across or something.
They did a pretty good job adapting whatever mess of terrain they had in the edge of the map in RDR1 and making it into a coherent map in 2. Wish the PC port would bring some kind of references or updates to the map from 2, but likely it'll be a 60 fps patch for 50 bucks like PS5 version was, plus, they're all working on GTA 6 so unlikely they have the time to update 1.
It's weird how they kinda had an idea for a part of the rdr2 map drawn out during the development of rdr1
Wonder if your able to reach the grizzly mountains, always see them in the distance
I posted a video today in these mountains.
This is the video I needed
Bro it's crazy to think u ain't only at the end of map, u are just visiting the american eastern
What
@@Skiivin That's what I said.
What does this even mean?
"American eastern" like it isn't literally just northern West Elizabeth and the heartlands. That's like calling Colorado the east
@@TrexAintaChicken it’s weird because the heartlands is supposed to be the Dakotas, West Elizabeth is supposed to be Texas, Ambarino is supposed to be like Colorado and Roanoke and the eastern reaches of the grizzlies are supposed to be Appalachia
6:04 what a nice area such a shame its not in the final game. although it reminds me a little bit of the heartlands in red dead redemption 2.
The trees on the riverbank are so vivid and green
very nice like video ! very cool i m subscribe homie !
Even rockstar never thought of the red dead 2 map yet it wouldn't make since for the roads going past the river just to dissappear why not just make the invisible sniper
They forced there own hand by giving the player binoculars lol.
Even though its out of bounds big valley looks ok from 2010 standards
Обожаю эту часть за пределами карты. Она выглядит так красиво и завораживающе не смотря на то, что она не доработана
Imagine if you could go all the way to Strawberry
Im almost positive the tourches is the menu where you pick your online character
Can you continue exploring after taking revenge on Edgar Ross?
Yeah
I’m rather late to this video. But I would love to see out of bounds exploration in the southern region below Mexico. Using glitches, you can go through and out of Mexico in rdr2, it’d be interesting to see that area in rdr1
You should make a comparison to this following the same path but in rdr2
I'll do it soon, I just need more time.
dont. its too dangerous.
@@stoney0503 I don’t know how but you found me
@@TheKillerDonuts Casino guy #1: Killer donut has been here
Casino guy #2: how can you tell?
Casino guy #1: Redead remption
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This makes me look back at when West Elizabeth was just nothing more than Tall Trees and Great Plains. BTW can you find the Owanjila dam in RDR1?
in rdr1, it's just a waterfall instead of a dam
@user-ck8fj9zg3u I still would wanna see the road that led to there in RDR1
@@iceman1287not all out of bound areas are rendered in, only some. Modern day Big Valley and south of Diez Coronas are the most I guess you can say developed out of bound locations. Everywhere else you can take 10 steps and you fall through the map.
The rock formation that blocks you from going north past Dutch’s camp has zero collision once you get on top of it. And the way RDR1 was developed the horizon has this weird drag effect that looks like an acid trip so, the dam and the lake can’t even reached at all in 1.
Are the Outfitter torches still there in the re-release version of the game that doesn't have multiplayer?
Yes
I’ve exited the map many times, and man, there’s an entire world outside the map
Looks like a post apolycatic wasteland.
Isnt that owanjila?
Flat iron is east.
Also shouod of went to where the dam is in rdr2.
Think you can play online and show the meteor crater that rockstar sent and killed everyone
What?
@@_rosolek_ back when rdr1 came out in online rockstar sent a meteor near the great plains and the blackwater area of the map and any players that were there died instantly there were 2 youtube videos that showed the crater which was outside of the map but sadly both were taken down
@@Lion09887 And it's real? Like did it ever really happen? Or it's just some sort of a myth? I never heard about it. Well I never played the multiplayer of the first game either but still it sounds weird
Okay I've read a bit about it. First as people point out it was most likely some glitch. And second it seems like there isn't any fottage of it so I guess now it's more of a legend
@@_rosolek_hell nah RDR1 Lost media 💀
Can you explore the saint denis area?
Not in rdr
You mean Blue hell? Yes this is a real game dev term.
Unfortunately this area only exists in RDR2. Take a look and pause at minute 7:05, top left, that in theory is Lemoyne's state, among others.
You should have done a side to side comparison
can you do this with undead nightmare, i feel like the game still has couple of secrets.
How is posible there a car in the wild west???
In the events of rdr1, cars were starting be invented around the year 1914-1915
@kingster8733 But the events of RDR2 occurred in 1899.
why the hell is there a collision there? why? we'll never be there in the entire game
Can we see whats north out of bounds of armadillo or the mountains next or whats south of mexico?
I will never understand how you manage to use mods in an xbox game
Jailbreak or emulator
Or just run it on pc gamepass@@Abdullah.124
Someone’s gonna mod this region into the game, watch
Columbus found the edge of the earth! The game world is FLAT.
Jack went to Valentine's to find where he used to live with the Van der Linde gang :)
Where is seamus in here?
Got here on ps3 by a modder
where tf is strawberry?
It’s not in rdr1
@@industrialsocietyanditsfuturea i know but its after the events of rdr2 so i thought it would be funny to say where tf is strawberry even though it isnt there
Who knows maybe the area got leveled, Tumbleweed is empty in rdr1 as well
I like to think of a dark theory why we can't see Strawberry all the way through the end of the map of rdr2 it's because of a natural disaster that destroyed parts of the States that's why we couldn't visit rdr2 map
@@Pro1938ftc3chI would’ve preferred if R* salvaged there original geography and make southern big valley with what they already had instead of recreating west Elizabeth. Even Dutch’s camp is unrecognizable (The layout ain’t the same)
Go to strawberry