What separates them both as a Studio in their films is that Pixar is more focused on the story, concept, character arcs and existentially emotional themes while Disney is more focused on aesthetic, music (particularly songs in general), historical adaptations on real-life people and books and magical themes. That's my observation from watching each films from both Studios in general. 🤗🤗💙💙
Spot on, Miguel, as always. Perhaps with one exception I can think of: Lilo and Stitch…solid 2D, but edgier, deeper and more daring than the classic Disney fare…pastel colors, Hawaii, Elvis music, extra-terrestrial beings and complex family issues, the mix summed up in two misfits bonding…and a happy ending…with an absolutely priceless line for the ages: “Ohana means family and family means nobody is left behind or forgotten”…I know it was probably not the immediate box office hit Toy Story’s various iterations were, but I wish Disney would have pursued that avenue further…perhaps I’m too much of an romantic for this day and age…
I think it’s not underrated. It’s getting the acclaim it deserves. Its characters from the direct to video sequels, such as Reuben and Angel are the only characters from the DTV sequels in Disney Parks.
@@miguelmunuera2601 I guess because like Winnie The Pooh, people including myself remember Stitch as a franchise more than an individual movie only. Like I can’t tell you which Lilo and Stitch movie is my favourite. But I can tell you my favourite character is Experiment 625 (Reuben).
@@miguelmunuera2601 I’ve watched many videos about it, and lots of people agree that the 9-minute “Once Upon a Studio” short is better than the whole 1h and 30m movie. It’s just disappointing that Disney gave us such a mundane “present” in Wish for their big celebration.
@@miguelmunuera2601 I agree 2.5d and 2d animation will both never get old. Puss in boots is my favorite animated movie of the 2020s and the day the earth blew up a lonney tune movie and the lord of rings prequel(a prequel that I wanna see.) Will both my favorite animated 2d movies of 2024. The same goes fir the wild robot with the 2.5d style.
Our 2D movies only died out for 3D because Pixar pushed 3D to begin with. By setting the foundation they encouraged a whole industry to abandon what had been a time-honored art form for their "shiny new toy".
This was such a great video to watch! You always put so much effort in making you videos both knowledgeable and entertaining to watch. I got teary eyed towards the end, and can't wait to rewatch some of my favorite animated films! Thank you for the video Miguel
This means the absolute world Z 🥹 Thanks for the comment and I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Even to the point of getting teary eyed?? There's no better compliment haha
I agree with what you said in the video (by the way, a great video, very clear and concise). Anyway...yes. On the one hand it is also nice to see Disney experimenting (I am also just thinking of Zootopia, both for the animation techniques and for the story and its dynamics), on the other hand it is true that the line between the two houses has progressively thinned out, and this is a bit to the detriment of the legacy of both... although I think it's more Disney that's at a disadvantage lately.
Thank you 🥹 appreciate the support! Yeah I think the experimentation they did with Wish was nice but they need to continue to develop that style and maybe it'll be great for their next animated movies. I still have to watch Zootopia though, haven't seen it yet 🤦
I loved this video!! There was so much i didn’t know about the two studios.🤗 Can i just love both of them equally tho?🥹 They were both there in my childhood and growing up, that i couldn’t possibly choose a favourite…
It's lovely explanation. As you says Difference between PIXER and Disney might be innovative vs traditional. As Japanese we tend to mind quality, especially old Disney movies still popular in Japan. Yeah I reckon movie drawning is brilliant and character design is beauty or cute.
I think I'd have to say Disney's Renaissance, just because they released more movies that are all incredible. It's a tough question though. I'd argue Pixar's 3 year run from Ratatouille to Up is the best 3 year stretch by any studio on any medium though..
@@miguelmunuera2601 I'm not really into Cars and I thought Up and Toy Story 3 was just okay. Wall-E I thought was the last of Pixar's perfect movie run. Disney Renaissance had some duds like Rescuers 2 and Pocahontas.
Really informative. It’s definitely one of my favourites from your channel. 👍🏻 It makes me eager to watch a Pixar movie, even though I've barely seen any 😅
@@miguelmunuera2601 Pixar and 3D animation studios should not be encouraged by this point. Not as much as we should be encouraging 2D animation and seeing it brought back to mainstream relevance again the way it deserves to be.
@@miguelmunuera2601 Not when you find that all one of those styles has ultimately turned into by this point is just some biased corporate agenda to want to keep another art form back, just kept under the same guise of entertainment and storytelling with them never wanting anyone to think twice about it or to dare question their motives and practices.
Here's my assumption for the Animation today. People are sometimes complaining about the rise 3D animation but the thing is 3D is still an art it takes a lot of time for Animators to design, color, and sketch the whole thing and everything out. And 2D is not dead there's a lot of 2D Animations that are released on this decade that have receive recognition examples are The Boy and the Heron, The Summit of the Gods, Suzume, Wolfwalkers, Flee, The First Slam Dunk, Titina, Mars Express, Chicken for Linda, Inu-Oh, Goodbye, Don Glees and many others. My advice for everybody is we have to learn how to appreciate different types of Animation because it is not just a genre it is basically a cinema itself. 💙💙
Is that supposed to make me want to pity 3D? Because I really don't *care* what 3D animation studios put into their realistically detailed 3D movies anymore, with CGI being more or less the most overrated and overused medium for animated movies on the whole entire planet by this point, as much as I would say that it's been a corporate agenda for our major film studios that just want to leave 2D animation behind. The only thing I want to have pity for if anything is the current state of traditional 2D animated movies and *their* work. How our studios stopped wanting to treat *it* like art anymore because of CGI. You're never going to see me posting comments like this that are only made in the context of wanting to pity 3D and defend 3D when 3D movies haven't been the ones in desperate need of reviving from years of constant studio neglect. We need to stop allowing ourselves to make everything all about 3D when our studios have been doing that enough as it is already and only ever seem to want to continue doing it. 2D has been the real victim. 3D has been the *problem* . The reality as I see it is that 3D animation never had *any* right to ever be bolstered up as "art" at the great cost and expense of 2D animation, so maybe Pixar never should have been the ones to encourage our industry down this path in the first place.
I'd be really curious to see how Disney's reputatuon would've changed if they kept doing epic films, ie "Kingdom of the Sun" and never making "Chicken Little." Pixar and Disney's styles are very different, so they could coexist together without it being a supremacy thing.
@@miguelmunuera2601 Looking at the list of unproduced Disney animated films for the 2000s (thanks, Wikipedia), I would've been interested to see where they went with "The Nightingale" and "Tam Lin" as well.
@@miguelmunuera2601 "The Nightingale" or "The Emperor's Nightingale" was about a Chinese emperor who is fascinated by the nightingale's song--until a nightingale automaton seems to do a better job. The nightingale leaves, only to return later when the automaton wears down and death almost takes the emperor. "Tam Lin" is a Scottish tale about a woman who rescues a man from the queen of the fairies. It was in production circa 2003, but Michael Eisner and Roy E. Disney were in a power struggle at the time and they film was seen as something special, so it was stalled. Brenda Chapman (co-director of Brave) was originally planned to co-direct the film.
People claim that Pixar killed 2D animation and I strongly disagree. Pixar's goal was to create a new animation technology to tell stories without trying to overshadow the other. They wanted to push forward the medium of animation to new heights with 3D which still being whimsical and charming. But Toy Story's immense success followed by other 3D animated movies from Pixar and DreamWorks which were insanely profitable and acclaimed, Disney thought that by abandoning 2D and embracing 3D they would be the top player of the box office and the animation industry and they were. But let's be honest here, 3D, as stunning as it is, can never capture the essence and magic of 2D. It's not the art style's fault, it's the fault of the stories being told by Disney in that art form ( I'm looking at you Brother Bear and Home On The Range) which led to this belief amongst general audience that 2D is only suitable for TV rather than being in theatres. Now which studio is better. I've previously sided with Disney a lot due to nostalgia and personal biases but I'm gonna actually critically evaluate this time around and side with the more deserving studio that is Pixar.
Yeah of course, it's not that Pixar INTENTIONALLY wanted to overshadow 2D, it's that the success it had influenced every other studio to also do that style to do the popularity
"Pixar's goal was to create a new animation technology to tell stories without trying to overshadow the other." Yet by doing so they still ultimately allowed it to happen anyway, which has always made the medium's future in our industry their responsibility and technically *their fault* . But they are not a studio that could ever be fully entrusted with the future of traditional 2D animation when the only thing they've ever specialized in or been known for from the very beginning was pushing 3D computer animation. Hand-drawn animation was Disney's main art form and their time-honored tradition, but they ended up losing sight of that on Pixar's account, because their very existence had to become a grave inconvenience for Disney's own animation. Only re-enforced even more by how the Walt Disney Animation Studio was allowed to be put into the hands of two of Pixar's key people, only for them to end up thinking they had any right to disregard the very integrity of the studio whenever they wanted by moving it even further away from the animation it was meant for, which they only fell away from in the first place because of *them* .
Also, if you want to talk personal biases, then I'd say that siding with Pixar all the time while turning a blind eye to any of the negative impacts they've had on our industry and on 2D animation's future would be the *ultimate* bias. The true victim here is the art of traditional hand-drawn feature animation and the very integrity that Disney animation itself is meant to have with it, and I'd consider that more deserving of our defense and support than Pixar should ever be.
@@nicksorenson940 I'm siding with Pixar because this is a Pixar vs Disney video. If we're talking about animation in general I'd go with Studio Ghibli anytime.
@@anchitbaishya And I'm only going to want to side with Disney at this point because they never should have had to have lost sight in the art of hand-drawn animation because Pixar didn't know when to quit. And honestly, Disney's own style of 2D animation had always resonated and appealed to me far more than any movie that I knew existed from Ghibli. Just as animation isn't meant to only be about CGI, it shouldn't only be about anime either. We need more of *Disney's* classic style of 2D animation again.
Once upon a time I would have still cared about what merits Pixar wanted people to see in them and their movies, but in the greater scheme of things and in greater hindsight all I've learned to see now is that Pixar is key in why our industry ended up collectively wanting to turn their backs on traditional 2D animation as an art form. Whether it was ever their initial intention or not they set the terms for it from the beginning and influenced the industry down this path all because they put their foot in the door and pushed for something that our industry arguably didn't need at the time otherwise. So many people to this day still just want to give them endless praise for what they view to be their merits in storytelling or innovation, but all that praise only keeps them constantly blind to just how much more harm than good their involvement in the industry has truly been when seen at 2D animation's expense. That said the last thing I really needed to see on TH-cam right now is yet another Pixar apologetic video, let alone one that only wants to bolster up their animation over Disney's when the truth is that Pixar's animated movies never realistically had any business trying to put themselves above the main animation of the company they were working *under*. Try to argue the storytelling quality of Disney vs Pixar all you want, but all I know is that I had nothing but deep appreciation for the efforts of Walt Disney Feature Animation and their extremely skilled and talented crew of hand-drawn artists even while Pixar was making their movies at the time, but ultimately it ended up being Pixar's people and the continued pushing of their animation that ended up taking away everything that Disney's animation ever was for me and what I looked up to their studio for, because they might have thought that it was their place to "challenge" Disney's way of doing things to the point of making them want to fall away from the very art that Walt built the studio on from the beginning. By the mid-2000s a lot of those same hand-drawn animators I looked up to were now losing their *jobs* with Disney because all their hard efforts that gave them their successful Renaissance era were suddenly considered no good anymore cause they didn't happen to be in the same 3D animation as Pixar now, and it's when Disney animation started to become another imitation of Pixar that it truly began to lose its real identity. Whatever ways Disney's own animation could have been better managed at the time, it was Pixar that had no more business trying to let their secondary work undermine Disney's any more than letting the whole entire industry be encouraged to believe that their 3D animation is "better" than 2D animation. But whatever appreciation I once thought I had for Pixar themselves really went out the door after their own John Lasseter and Ed Catmull were allowed to have their own creative reigns over the Walt Disney Animation Studio, just so they could end up assuming that the studio was now theirs to move further away from their hand-drawn roots as much as they pleased while faking everyone out on a "revival" that they ultimately proved to have no real commitment towards, when the work they were doing with Pixar was the whole reason Disney ended up wanting to fall away from their hand-drawn animation in the first place, meaning that they were very much held accountable for its future with the studio. A responsibility which they spent the majority of their time at the studio squandering in favor of making them push out even more 3D into the animation market than what anyone truly needs by this point. I couldn't be more glad that Lasseter got himself fired from Disney for what looks to be the final time. Good riddance. And now they want to think that featuring a 2D character in their new Inside Out sequel (where 2D is still reduced to taking a back seat for 3D) is supposed to make up for it, while former Disney animators like Sergio Pablos have been doing their best on their own to try and re-invigorate hand-drawn movies on their own merits again with Klaus only for all of his own efforts to be undermined cause the Academy Awards believed that Pixar's Toy Story 4 was more deserving of their bias, cause it's always got to be about *Pixar* and about *3D* animation! Well the truth is I appreciate Klaus more than I give a sh*t about anything Pixar has produced for over the past 10 years. For how much people want to call Pixar a studio that pushed storytelling, it's clear that their other sole reason for ever existing was simply to push 3D into the industry and to continue pushing it with each movie they made, just for me to end up getting sick of having to see *anything* 3D anymore because of how far they allowed it to go. Now I won't give so much as a single cent or the time of day to 3D movies anymore, Pixar or otherwise, so long as our studios continue to show that that's all they ever want to care about pushing because Pixar pushed first. By this point the best thing Pixar could do for our entire industry is to *keep out of the way* if other filmmakers are ever allowed their own opportunity to bring 2D animated movies back into the mainstream again without any biased opposition from studios, and that includes all the other 3D studios that exist today in general. They've done more than enough to put the art form into this whole mess that it never would have been in if it hadn't been for them paving the way.
when i first saw that pixar is part of disney i was super pissed because i was a very big fan of warner brothers always have been always will be, and also i want disney to let go of pixar just so that warner brothers can buy pixar
Bullflop. A collection of pencil drawings can make an audience cry. A computer file can be visually impressive, but that's about all. Ironically, it's the human element that creates the magic.
Really love doing these comparative videos! Hope you all enjoy them too :) Let me know your thoughts on who's the better studio in the comments 👀
What separates them both as a Studio in their films is that Pixar is more focused on the story, concept, character arcs and existentially emotional themes while Disney is more focused on aesthetic, music (particularly songs in general), historical adaptations on real-life people and books and magical themes. That's my observation from watching each films from both Studios in general. 🤗🤗💙💙
Yeah you're right, very good summary!! :)
Spot on, Miguel, as always. Perhaps with one exception I can think of: Lilo and Stitch…solid 2D, but edgier, deeper and more daring than the classic Disney fare…pastel colors, Hawaii, Elvis music, extra-terrestrial beings and complex family issues, the mix summed up in two misfits bonding…and a happy ending…with an absolutely priceless line for the ages: “Ohana means family and family means nobody is left behind or forgotten”…I know it was probably not the immediate box office hit Toy Story’s various iterations were, but I wish Disney would have pursued that avenue further…perhaps I’m too much of an romantic for this day and age…
Brilliant example..Lilo & Stitch is truly an underrated Disney classic that has a lot of depth and just overall charm 😍
I think it’s not underrated. It’s getting the acclaim it deserves. Its characters from the direct to video sequels, such as Reuben and Angel are the only characters from the DTV sequels in Disney Parks.
@@Esgles Well idk though, when people name some of the best Disney movies I feel like Lilo & Stitch never gets mentioned
@@miguelmunuera2601 I guess because like Winnie The Pooh, people including myself remember Stitch as a franchise more than an individual movie only. Like I can’t tell you which Lilo and Stitch movie is my favourite. But I can tell you my favourite character is Experiment 625 (Reuben).
@@Esgles Oh wow fair enough, I didn't even know there were multiple movies..😳
The fact that “Wish”, Disney’s 100th year celebration movie, flopped so hard (and was mostly forgotten) shows how much the tables have turned.
Exactly. How can your 100 YEAR ANNIVERSARY movie be a complete flop not only at the box office but among your fan base too..
@@miguelmunuera2601
I’ve watched many videos about it, and lots of people agree that the 9-minute “Once Upon a Studio” short is better than the whole 1h and 30m movie. It’s just disappointing that Disney gave us such a mundane “present” in Wish for their big celebration.
Exactly, people love the 9 minute “Once Upon a Studio” short more that the 1h and 30m Wish movie. So disappointing.
@@MJCam1130 yeah honestly that short is so well made haha I really loved it
I really miss the classic Disney Villain. Dr. Facilier & Mother Gothel are the last really good ones we’ve had in recent years
Me too!! You're right, Dr. Facilier was SO GOOD. Unfortunately Disney doesn't seem to care about good villains anymore lol
Thank you for putting time into another great video!
Thanks a ton 🥹 appreciate the comment! Looking forward to making the next one
It's a shame that 2d died due the rise of 3d animation. Today 2d makes a comeback slowly. Now 2d animation more popular than 3d.
I completely agree. 2D and 2.5D is making a huge resurgence the past few years and I'm SO EXCITED
@@miguelmunuera2601 I agree 2.5d and 2d animation will both never get old. Puss in boots is my favorite animated movie of the 2020s and the day the earth blew up a lonney tune movie and the lord of rings prequel(a prequel that I wanna see.) Will both my favorite animated 2d movies of 2024. The same goes fir the wild robot with the 2.5d style.
@@miguelmunuera2601What is we have a movie like cars but in 2d. How could it be ?
Our 2D movies only died out for 3D because Pixar pushed 3D to begin with. By setting the foundation they encouraged a whole industry to abandon what had been a time-honored art form for their "shiny new toy".
This was such a great video to watch! You always put so much effort in making you videos both knowledgeable and entertaining to watch. I got teary eyed towards the end, and can't wait to rewatch some of my favorite animated films! Thank you for the video Miguel
This means the absolute world Z 🥹 Thanks for the comment and I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Even to the point of getting teary eyed?? There's no better compliment haha
I agree with what you said in the video (by the way, a great video, very clear and concise).
Anyway...yes. On the one hand it is also nice to see Disney experimenting (I am also just thinking of Zootopia, both for the animation techniques and for the story and its dynamics), on the other hand it is true that the line between the two houses has progressively thinned out, and this is a bit to the detriment of the legacy of both... although I think it's more Disney that's at a disadvantage lately.
Thank you 🥹 appreciate the support! Yeah I think the experimentation they did with Wish was nice but they need to continue to develop that style and maybe it'll be great for their next animated movies. I still have to watch Zootopia though, haven't seen it yet 🤦
I loved this video!! There was so much i didn’t know about the two studios.🤗 Can i just love both of them equally tho?🥹 They were both there in my childhood and growing up, that i couldn’t possibly choose a favourite…
Hahaha of course! I love them both too 🥹 More Disney than Pixar tbh, just because they formed my childhood too
Such a good video!!!! I love how much I learn through your videos and I really appreciate you doing all the research u do to make these!!❤
So glad you enjoyed it! 🥹 I put a lot into each one ♥️
I want the artificial intelligence at the TV and Movie industries in Hollywood shut down.
That would be nice..but I doubt they will be
I like both Disney and Pixar
They're both great studios, but Pixar has been killing it since 2000 ngl
@@miguelmunuera2601 Oh they ended up "killing" something all right...
It's lovely explanation.
As you says Difference between PIXER and Disney might be innovative vs traditional.
As Japanese we tend to mind quality, especially old Disney movies still popular in Japan. Yeah I reckon movie drawning is brilliant and character design is beauty or cute.
!! Absolutely :)
Who had the better run?
Disney Renaissance vs Pixar from 1995 to 2006 (everything before Cars)
I think I'd have to say Disney's Renaissance, just because they released more movies that are all incredible. It's a tough question though. I'd argue Pixar's 3 year run from Ratatouille to Up is the best 3 year stretch by any studio on any medium though..
@@miguelmunuera2601 I'm not really into Cars and I thought Up and Toy Story 3 was just okay. Wall-E I thought was the last of Pixar's perfect movie run. Disney Renaissance had some duds like Rescuers 2 and Pocahontas.
Really informative. It’s definitely one of my favourites from your channel. 👍🏻 It makes me eager to watch a Pixar movie, even though I've barely seen any 😅
Thank youuu! But damn you've barely watched Pixar? Some of them are so amazing
@@miguelmunuera2601 Pixar and 3D animation studios should not be encouraged by this point. Not as much as we should be encouraging 2D animation and seeing it brought back to mainstream relevance again the way it deserves to be.
@@nicksorenson940 I think great movies should ALWAYS be encouraged, regardless of the animation style. But I agree we need more 2D movies!
@@miguelmunuera2601 Not when you find that all one of those styles has ultimately turned into by this point is just some biased corporate agenda to want to keep another art form back, just kept under the same guise of entertainment and storytelling with them never wanting anyone to think twice about it or to dare question their motives and practices.
Here's my assumption for the Animation today. People are sometimes complaining about the rise 3D animation but the thing is 3D is still an art it takes a lot of time for Animators to design, color, and sketch the whole thing and everything out. And 2D is not dead there's a lot of 2D Animations that are released on this decade that have receive recognition examples are The Boy and the Heron, The Summit of the Gods, Suzume, Wolfwalkers, Flee, The First Slam Dunk, Titina, Mars Express, Chicken for Linda, Inu-Oh, Goodbye, Don Glees and many others. My advice for everybody is we have to learn how to appreciate different types of Animation because it is not just a genre it is basically a cinema itself. 💙💙
Well said 👏👏🥹
Agreed, I love all Animation, whether it's 3D CGI, 2D Animation or Stop Motion!! They're ART ❤️
@@Spider-Nefilo FACTS!! Film in general is art 🥹
Is that supposed to make me want to pity 3D? Because I really don't *care* what 3D animation studios put into their realistically detailed 3D movies anymore, with CGI being more or less the most overrated and overused medium for animated movies on the whole entire planet by this point, as much as I would say that it's been a corporate agenda for our major film studios that just want to leave 2D animation behind. The only thing I want to have pity for if anything is the current state of traditional 2D animated movies and *their* work. How our studios stopped wanting to treat *it* like art anymore because of CGI.
You're never going to see me posting comments like this that are only made in the context of wanting to pity 3D and defend 3D when 3D movies haven't been the ones in desperate need of reviving from years of constant studio neglect. We need to stop allowing ourselves to make everything all about 3D when our studios have been doing that enough as it is already and only ever seem to want to continue doing it. 2D has been the real victim. 3D has been the *problem* .
The reality as I see it is that 3D animation never had *any* right to ever be bolstered up as "art" at the great cost and expense of 2D animation, so maybe Pixar never should have been the ones to encourage our industry down this path in the first place.
@@nicksorenson940 Based on your comment you seem to be blaming Pixar more as i see it which isn't right. Your not very fair enough. 😒🙄
Love this!!
Aww EGLAAAA! So glad you had a moment to watch it, and that you liked it ♥️
In my opinion,Pixar is my all-time favorite animation studio
Oh really? Even more than Ghibli? 👀 To be honest I was surprised at how great nearly their whole catalogue of movies is!
I'd be really curious to see how Disney's reputatuon would've changed if they kept doing epic films, ie "Kingdom of the Sun" and never making "Chicken Little." Pixar and Disney's styles are very different, so they could coexist together without it being a supremacy thing.
You're 100% right. I do think it'd be interesting to see how Disney's reputation would've been different
@@miguelmunuera2601 Looking at the list of unproduced Disney animated films for the 2000s (thanks, Wikipedia), I would've been interested to see where they went with "The Nightingale" and "Tam Lin" as well.
@@OpticalSorcerer What were those about?
@@miguelmunuera2601 "The Nightingale" or "The Emperor's Nightingale" was about a Chinese emperor who is fascinated by the nightingale's song--until a nightingale automaton seems to do a better job. The nightingale leaves, only to return later when the automaton wears down and death almost takes the emperor.
"Tam Lin" is a Scottish tale about a woman who rescues a man from the queen of the fairies. It was in production circa 2003, but Michael Eisner and Roy E. Disney were in a power struggle at the time and they film was seen as something special, so it was stalled. Brenda Chapman (co-director of Brave) was originally planned to co-direct the film.
@@OpticalSorcerer Wow what a disappointment. Those films would've been incredible to see imo
People claim that Pixar killed 2D animation and I strongly disagree. Pixar's goal was to create a new animation technology to tell stories without trying to overshadow the other. They wanted to push forward the medium of animation to new heights with 3D which still being whimsical and charming. But Toy Story's immense success followed by other 3D animated movies from Pixar and DreamWorks which were insanely profitable and acclaimed, Disney thought that by abandoning 2D and embracing 3D they would be the top player of the box office and the animation industry and they were. But let's be honest here, 3D, as stunning as it is, can never capture the essence and magic of 2D. It's not the art style's fault, it's the fault of the stories being told by Disney in that art form ( I'm looking at you Brother Bear and Home On The Range) which led to this belief amongst general audience that 2D is only suitable for TV rather than being in theatres.
Now which studio is better. I've previously sided with Disney a lot due to nostalgia and personal biases but I'm gonna actually critically evaluate this time around and side with the more deserving studio that is Pixar.
Yeah of course, it's not that Pixar INTENTIONALLY wanted to overshadow 2D, it's that the success it had influenced every other studio to also do that style to do the popularity
"Pixar's goal was to create a new animation technology to tell stories without trying to overshadow the other."
Yet by doing so they still ultimately allowed it to happen anyway, which has always made the medium's future in our industry their responsibility and technically *their fault* . But they are not a studio that could ever be fully entrusted with the future of traditional 2D animation when the only thing they've ever specialized in or been known for from the very beginning was pushing 3D computer animation. Hand-drawn animation was Disney's main art form and their time-honored tradition, but they ended up losing sight of that on Pixar's account, because their very existence had to become a grave inconvenience for Disney's own animation.
Only re-enforced even more by how the Walt Disney Animation Studio was allowed to be put into the hands of two of Pixar's key people, only for them to end up thinking they had any right to disregard the very integrity of the studio whenever they wanted by moving it even further away from the animation it was meant for, which they only fell away from in the first place because of *them* .
Also, if you want to talk personal biases, then I'd say that siding with Pixar all the time while turning a blind eye to any of the negative impacts they've had on our industry and on 2D animation's future would be the *ultimate* bias. The true victim here is the art of traditional hand-drawn feature animation and the very integrity that Disney animation itself is meant to have with it, and I'd consider that more deserving of our defense and support than Pixar should ever be.
@@nicksorenson940 I'm siding with Pixar because this is a Pixar vs Disney video. If we're talking about animation in general I'd go with Studio Ghibli anytime.
@@anchitbaishya And I'm only going to want to side with Disney at this point because they never should have had to have lost sight in the art of hand-drawn animation because Pixar didn't know when to quit.
And honestly, Disney's own style of 2D animation had always resonated and appealed to me far more than any movie that I knew existed from Ghibli. Just as animation isn't meant to only be about CGI, it shouldn't only be about anime either. We need more of *Disney's* classic style of 2D animation again.
Once upon a time I would have still cared about what merits Pixar wanted people to see in them and their movies, but in the greater scheme of things and in greater hindsight all I've learned to see now is that Pixar is key in why our industry ended up collectively wanting to turn their backs on traditional 2D animation as an art form. Whether it was ever their initial intention or not they set the terms for it from the beginning and influenced the industry down this path all because they put their foot in the door and pushed for something that our industry arguably didn't need at the time otherwise. So many people to this day still just want to give them endless praise for what they view to be their merits in storytelling or innovation, but all that praise only keeps them constantly blind to just how much more harm than good their involvement in the industry has truly been when seen at 2D animation's expense.
That said the last thing I really needed to see on TH-cam right now is yet another Pixar apologetic video, let alone one that only wants to bolster up their animation over Disney's when the truth is that Pixar's animated movies never realistically had any business trying to put themselves above the main animation of the company they were working *under*. Try to argue the storytelling quality of Disney vs Pixar all you want, but all I know is that I had nothing but deep appreciation for the efforts of Walt Disney Feature Animation and their extremely skilled and talented crew of hand-drawn artists even while Pixar was making their movies at the time, but ultimately it ended up being Pixar's people and the continued pushing of their animation that ended up taking away everything that Disney's animation ever was for me and what I looked up to their studio for, because they might have thought that it was their place to "challenge" Disney's way of doing things to the point of making them want to fall away from the very art that Walt built the studio on from the beginning.
By the mid-2000s a lot of those same hand-drawn animators I looked up to were now losing their *jobs* with Disney because all their hard efforts that gave them their successful Renaissance era were suddenly considered no good anymore cause they didn't happen to be in the same 3D animation as Pixar now, and it's when Disney animation started to become another imitation of Pixar that it truly began to lose its real identity. Whatever ways Disney's own animation could have been better managed at the time, it was Pixar that had no more business trying to let their secondary work undermine Disney's any more than letting the whole entire industry be encouraged to believe that their 3D animation is "better" than 2D animation.
But whatever appreciation I once thought I had for Pixar themselves really went out the door after their own John Lasseter and Ed Catmull were allowed to have their own creative reigns over the Walt Disney Animation Studio, just so they could end up assuming that the studio was now theirs to move further away from their hand-drawn roots as much as they pleased while faking everyone out on a "revival" that they ultimately proved to have no real commitment towards, when the work they were doing with Pixar was the whole reason Disney ended up wanting to fall away from their hand-drawn animation in the first place, meaning that they were very much held accountable for its future with the studio. A responsibility which they spent the majority of their time at the studio squandering in favor of making them push out even more 3D into the animation market than what anyone truly needs by this point. I couldn't be more glad that Lasseter got himself fired from Disney for what looks to be the final time. Good riddance.
And now they want to think that featuring a 2D character in their new Inside Out sequel (where 2D is still reduced to taking a back seat for 3D) is supposed to make up for it, while former Disney animators like Sergio Pablos have been doing their best on their own to try and re-invigorate hand-drawn movies on their own merits again with Klaus only for all of his own efforts to be undermined cause the Academy Awards believed that Pixar's Toy Story 4 was more deserving of their bias, cause it's always got to be about *Pixar* and about *3D* animation! Well the truth is I appreciate Klaus more than I give a sh*t about anything Pixar has produced for over the past 10 years. For how much people want to call Pixar a studio that pushed storytelling, it's clear that their other sole reason for ever existing was simply to push 3D into the industry and to continue pushing it with each movie they made, just for me to end up getting sick of having to see *anything* 3D anymore because of how far they allowed it to go. Now I won't give so much as a single cent or the time of day to 3D movies anymore, Pixar or otherwise, so long as our studios continue to show that that's all they ever want to care about pushing because Pixar pushed first.
By this point the best thing Pixar could do for our entire industry is to *keep out of the way* if other filmmakers are ever allowed their own opportunity to bring 2D animated movies back into the mainstream again without any biased opposition from studios, and that includes all the other 3D studios that exist today in general. They've done more than enough to put the art form into this whole mess that it never would have been in if it hadn't been for them paving the way.
What a comment!! Thanks for this honestly :) Also Klaus is INCREDIBLE so I'm glad you shouted it out
when i first saw that pixar is part of disney i was super pissed because i was a very big fan of warner brothers always have been always will be, and also i want disney to let go of pixar just so that warner brothers can buy pixar
Hahaha damn so you just want Pixar to be bought by a different company huh 😅
@@miguelmunuera2601 yes, and please don’t make fun of me
Well seid
Thank you :)
Bullflop. A collection of pencil drawings can make an audience cry. A computer file can be visually impressive, but that's about all. Ironically, it's the human element that creates the magic.
The human element is very important, but you can't tell me there aren't 3D movies that haven't touched you emotionally, like Up for example