George Harrison All Things Must Pass 50th : Remix & Music Review
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I like Bobby Whitlocks assessment of this collection.He was there and he played on almost every session..He thinks this release sounds horrible.
I think he articulated how much it sucked compared to the original. I've never heard him be more critical but then I listened to some of it and I wholeheartedly agree with Bobby. I too have the original.
Oh he thinks it is much worse than horrible, fucking awful he said! I have yet to listen, but Bobby is a good judge, having been present.
@@Deliquescentinsight i was being gentler..lol
The real reason for these collections including the extras is the 50 year copyright law. They have to release them in order to keep the rights and that includes the demos that had not been released. It’s great that the remaining fans get to hear stuff after all these years though. I’m a big fan of these collections but not a fan of the huge price! The McCartney archives included a hi res download - be nice if the others did the same.
@@DrOz-007 www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2013/01/12/169133556/there-are-only-100-copies-of-the-new-bob-dylan-record
I wonder why no one has pointed that out.
I just bought the CD version, and it's just like a scaled down version of the original that I got for Christmas when i was 10! I really like the mix better than the original. Stuff that was buried comes out better, without being obnoxious. Really enjoyable.
This was easily my favorite Mazzy clip. So informative and thoughtful. Your breakdown of other recordings that employed many of the same musicians that were on ATMP inspired me to pick up some LPs that I didn't have, including the Leon Russell record. Not going to get Beaucoups of Blues though because even YOUR passion could never persuade me to buy a Ringo record. lol MAZZY RULES!!
Ha 🥁🥁🥁
@@mazzysmusic do you hear a little buzz between tracks on side one of the demo collection? I'm hearing a slight buzz like when there is a neon bar light on and you hear it humming through a guitar amplifier. Do you have that buzz on your set?
There are actually two really good Ringo albums, the one entitled 'Ringo' and then Time Takes Time. Both are really good, also if you get a chance to see Ringo in concert, he's a helluva great entertainer.
@@continentalgin I’ve had “RINGO” since the 70s. You’re right. Not a bad record. Of course he had a lot of help from his friends. 😉
Brilliant, Norman. Thank you kindly. RSM Nashvile
Thanks, Mazzy, always value your opinions and reviews. Can't wait to hear the George, Ringo, and Klaus tracks.
I got All Things in 1970, I was 14. I had trouble with the production at first. But within a couple months I got used to it and it became, and is, the Bible to me.
I was a little deceived with this remix…but,surprise, when i listened itbagain but this time with my headphones focal clear MG ,i was digging this remix…
Massy, "Thanks for the Pepper (Sgt) - roni"
Spector-magic was OF the times then, like Hi-Res Streaming is OF the times now.
Can't wait til the 75th Anniversary edition which is likely to include the 3D Holographic Augmented Reality Mappings of the performances and the Cerebral Implant Chip that lets you know what George was actually thinking when he wrote these songs....
Sir, do please tell us what drugs you're taking! LOL
@@themusiccornerlima PRELLIES!
I find the demos and outtakes much more exciting than a new Mix,
it's almost like Dylan's Thunder revue recordings for ALMP.
you can tell it's a masterpiece when you enjoy the
raw acoustic takes as much as the full band version.
Given how stunning the Beatles Mono vinyl set was -- doing an all-analogue mastering which, in my opinion, eclipses all other versions of those records (even the stereo ones) -- I continue to be so disappointed that no-one does a similarly purist, all-analogue remastering of Abbey Road, ATMP etc. in the original stereo mix. I do not buy the excuse (which you allude to) that "we cannot let the masters leave Abbey Road etc." Well it worked out fine for the Mono box...... If they are really that nervous they could even opt to do a vinyl pressing from hi-rez digital (like the Stones did for their Mono box, which sounded terrific, but NOT what Apple did for their Beatles stereo vinyl reissues, which were awful) - and I bet it would sound very good indeed. I haven't heard the remix yet, but from everything I've read, and from your perceptive comments, it sounds like a bit of an equivocation at best. Nevertheless I will probably buy the 8lp set because I would love to have those demos and outtakes, plus the book. Like you I love this album, Phil Spector-and-all, and dearly wish I could get an original (or close-to original) UK pressing for a sane price. It's clearly the best way to hear this album. Failing that, what is your opinion of the 2017 vinyl reissue (also in the Harrison vinyl box) - is it close enough to the original pressings to be ok, or would you just throw caution and sense to the wind and put down the cash for a clean UK original? Thanks again for a wonderful video, BTW.
Never liked ATMP because of Spector's production. Great songs, though.
excellent show....thanks...personally, i much prefer the original...the new remix is interesting...but why mess with a masterpiece?
I would really like a remaster of the 1970 album, facsimile packaging, with maybe outtakes and singles (Deep Blue) but imo remixing is stupid and they usually end up dating quicker than the original album. Thanks for the expansive reviews.
PS. Porky's Revenge? Jesus...
If you have time jump over to Bobby Whitlock's UT page under header 'All things must be a joke.' It's an interesting rant. Apparently he hates the new mix overall. I mean he's mortified about it. He much prefers the original pressing. The one George personally handed to him.
I've been following Bobby's channel. He's very straightforward, honest, knowledgeable, and just an all around great guy. I was sad to hear his negative review yesterday, but he was in the core band and was at every session. I wonder what the overall backstory is of why he wasn't invited to play on the Bangladesh concert or the Concert for George. He's either been terribly snubbed or there's some backstory to the animosity. He says, "Ask Eric."
@@continentalgin Yea love his channel. He's got a ton of stories going back to the Stax dayz in Memphis.. The backstory of that snub will probably never be told. it's all water under the bridge. He's well aware of his place in musical history but I guess he doesn't really think too much about it according to him. He's got a lovely house outside of Austin.Lovely wife Coco, pets, a positive outlook on life and his hammond b-3 to keep him happy..
@@duckbrew Right? He's in a good place. He did say in one of his videos, he was living in England and trying his best to get Eric to do a music project, but Eric was fighting (or not) heroin at that time and was a recluse. Maybe he irritated Eric, trying to get him off dope, who knows.
Oh sir Frankie crisp
I didn't like how Harrison's voice was washed out, you can more clearly hear him now which I appreciate.
I never liked the Spector sound. And there are interviews with George stating that he didn't like it either. The 2014 mix is cleaner than the new one, but the new one is better as far as vocals go. Much better resolution and natural sound. Overall. But perhaps the bass is overdone, but that's true with all modern reissues.
Bobby Whitlock, a core musician on the album, absolutely hates this new mix. Search for his channel and one can view the vid in which he expresses his view on it.
My favorite George LP is the 79 self titled. It’s just awesome
I loved your remarks about the albums that appeared during 1970, and you covered so many feelings and aspects, just feelings, what I've always wanted to say & hear people discuss but never have. Wow thanks. Yes ATMP is a magical album, released during a magical year. Can we meet? I loved New Morning & remember vividly that many folks didn't. Life would be very empty without this lp & Alone Together, Delaney & Bonnie, Layla, the Band, best solo lp by a former Beatle.
I guess you know by now, Bobby Whitlock hates the new mixes (see his channel from yesterday). It's interesting, because he was there for all the sessions. I wonder what Eric and Ringo think of the new mixes? I doubt if they will say, if they don't like what they hear, out of friendship with Dhani and Olivia. But it is interesting that Bobby had such a strong, negative reaction.
Just finished listening to this whole video, Mazzy. I appreciate your comments and I think you've given us insights and a fair and balanced review. Being a child of the sixties, I grew up listening to the original mixes of all these anniversary albums and like you and many others got comfortable with them, listening over and over and over. I think, as you alluded to, people need to realize that Phil Spector was a solid hitmaker in the early to mid sixties and in high demand. He was considered by the industry and by The Beatles to be one of the most talented producers in the business. That tends to be a little overlooked these days. Also, people should realize that there was a period of years, when we were all hippies (or in my suburban teen case, a wannabe) when bands were noisy, raucous, 'let it all hang out,' and it was the thing to play those records really loud. Delaney and Bonnie, Leon, Derek and the Dominos, Joe Cocker, and so forth. I remember going to concerts and my ears would ring for days after, because it was balls to the wall loud and to some extent deafening. Anyway, I got the 3-CD ATMP set yesterday and will try to do an unbiased listen, but thanks again for your wonderful review. I trust your views, as well as Michael Fremer, Ron Beaudry, and Patrick the Vinyl Archivist. You guys know what you're talking about.
Some interesting food for thought. ATMP is a top 3 solo Beatles album for me. I've been looking forward to this release for a while. I can't really justify that uber set although I did consider it. I have been enjoying the remixes that come out from The Beatles and their solo releases. I don't think of them as replacements, but just an alternative experience. Like with Sgt Pepper or the white album, do I want to listen to the mono, the 2009 stereo remaster, the 2018 remix, or the vintage vinyl? Different things pop out on all of them. Like you I appreciate Phil's work on ATMP, but I think more than you I wanted to hear the less reverberated version to hear the individual parts better. Not that it becomes the definitive version, just a different experience. I haven't heard the new set yet. Looking forward to it. Thanks for the thoughtful discussion.
I am very impressed Norman with your down to Earth approach to the Uber release and the remix of the album. Although the wooden box release has had some flack about the price, it is a beautiful package. There is also versions for folk with less money like myself and I am very happy with my 5 CD / 1 Blu Ray set. What is on my mind is that it is so important the music of this remarkable man is introduced to new generations of music appreciation fans.
Ooh, Steve Wilson would have been interesting if he had mixed it. For me, I have the original album and the remastered set from a few years ago - so I felt I'm good - I like this album but I don't go too it often enough to justify another version. Let it Be Spector, yeah, too much... ATMP/Imagine Spector - just right amount and essential.
What Spector did with Instant Karma was superb (unless John undid what Phil did, I don't know).
Just heard Bobby Whitlock's review - not quite as tempered. Bobby Whitlock has quite a different view of the thing - as a participant in the sessions. Many of his claims about the sessions are not likely to be verified by the people there - many of whom cannot respond, or may not care to.
Bobby hated it. I thought it was "fucking terrible."
I like your observations , you are spot on regarding the other records you mentioned……..fruit of the same tree?
I am curious to hear and purchase some variation of the remixed ATMP. I share you opinion of the orginial Spector wall of sound mix. I always felt that this was grandiose record showing us the depth of George’s spirit. IMHO it was a perfect record. Played first four sides today and was taken back to that place and time. The Beatles were the soundtrack to my teenage years and ATMP started me on the path to adulthood. Thank you for taking the time and care to share.
For me, most of The Beatles' remixes were an improvement over the originals - Hey Jude, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Helter Skelter and Get Back being exceptions. The remixes on All Things Must Pass are an improvement in sound. The dryer vocals take a little getting used to because of how we've heard them for 50 years, but it's more intimate and cleaner now.
George turned me onto Indian music too! i think in order to understand George more, you really need releases such as the Collaborations boxset with Ravi
Brilliant as usual, Norman. I need to buy this album. Haven’t owned it since 1986 when i sold my vinylcollection. I know. I’m such a moron.
You're not the only one who sold a great vinyl collection when CDs were all the rage. I should kick myself every time I think about what I could still have if I hadn't 'gotten rid' of original albums worth quite a lot these days. A friend of mine is now into collecting cassettes, but soon after I sold off my vinyl, I tossed my cassette collection in the dumpster! I could have added a ton to my friend's collection, but oh well.
Another thing that dawned on me, this edition was released on the 50th anniversary of the BanglaDesh concert.
Mazzy, you are my favorite music reviewer on TH-cam. You are down to earth, your voice is pleasant to listen to and you're a walking music encyclopedia. You keep the flame burning which is admirable. You're a man after my own heart!
Maz you might want to hear Bobby Whitlock's reaction to this set, called All Things Must Be A Joke.
I saw it. He is a bit bitter and his complaints aren’t really about the remix. However the original is better.
@@mazzysmusic they are all about the mix, he said it was 'fucking awful.. a joke'
@@mazzysmusic Bitter my ass. He is a selfless and humble man who only wants the record (NPI) set straight. He was not consulted on the remix at all, neither was Clapton. How does that happen? This new mix is a cash-cow and the Harrisons should be ashamed.
@@thearchives Too bad they didn't consult Ringo and Klaus, as well. I wonder what Jeff Lynne would have done remixing these tracks? He and Paul did an incredible job with Free As A Bird and Real Love.
No he is not "bitter", he wishes they had contacted him for background info, but for the most part he wanted the new remix to be a sonic success.
Great video. I’m pretty underwhelmed with the remix on vinyl. Don’t think this album was in need of a remix, but I got it anyway because of all the hype. My copy is going back due to the horrible nonfill and I won’t be seeking a replacement.
I agree with most of the remarks here. Particularly regarding the remastering and remixing. Some random thoughts. My original experience with this was on cassette in 1970. Played it on a mono cassette player. I just wanted to put that out there because even in low fidelity, I loved this. When you are 13, you care more about the tunes than you can about the nuances of the recording and the instruments.
Now, of course, I really appreciate the clarity, although personally I was quite happy with the remaster of the original tracks in 2001. That said, when you listen to remaster of White Album and this latest ATMP, side by side, I hear much more clarity in White Album tracks. Maybe it's my ears.
But -- I love all the new tracks in this edition -- the demos with Ringo and Klaus are particularly good. It seems crazy much of this hasn't been heard (properly, outside bootlegs) in all this time. And I agree with the the presenter here on that topic. It all needed an official release.
When ATMP came out, no one could have imagined it would be the *pinnacle* of George's solo career, although I think you must also include Concert for Bangla Desh in that pinnacle. Having more than 4 hours of ATMP material is almost unreal at this point in my life. But I'm very grateful for it.
I also didn't know, until very recently, how very many of the songs on ATMP had been around for some time (some as far back as '66!) and summarily rejected by the Beatles. I knew about some, of course, and had heard some bootlegs, but the amount is rather astonishing.
Songs George worked on while still a Beatle include:
Hear Me Lord
Let It Down
All things must pass
Isn't it a Pity
The Art of Dying
Run of the Mill
Behind That Locked Door
Not to mention Sour Milk Sea, Dehra Dun and several more, I believe.
And yes, I knew George had stockpiled a lot, and maybe even began to hold some things back in anticipation of his solo album. But wow, that's a lot. And when ATMP came out, I think absolutely everyone would have assumed this was all brand new music from George. I know i did.
But maybe that's fate. And maybe ATMP is the best argument for why the Beatles breakup needed to happen. However, I think it's interesting to consider what George's first proper solo album would have been like if all that material had been used up within the Beatles! We might have just had My Sweet Lord, Beware of Darkness, What is Life, and the Apple Jam!
No, not really, but...
A few more thoughts. This latest edition would be *more* complete if they had included the extras that are included in the 2001 reissue. Argh! Most notably, the other version of "I Live For You," which George wasn't wild about, but I love should be in this new collection. Personally -- I think an excellent bonus would have been a few tracks from unreleased Concert for Bangla Desh tapes. "Hear Me Lord" was played live in the afternoon and didn't make the cut on the official release. I'd sure like to hear it. But I hope ALL that music from the Banga Desh concert is re-released with a nice big package of musical extras.
The music from ATMP is, after all, no less than musical history. And wow, does it stand the test of time.
This type of video makes so much more sense than the stupid unboxing video I
See from a lot of enthusiasts.
I see the remix as a supplement to the original.
Having heard the original several thousand times, I’ll be patient and let the remix grow on me 😊
I think that's the right attitude. 👍
Wow! Such a killer box set. That's one of the best packaging jobs I have seen and definitely worthy of being in your home. I have an OG of the album and just received the remixed version yesterday.
But let's not forget, George has expressed wanting to remix this for years. He was never entirely satisfied with the OTT production values of ATMP. George said this himself in the sleeve notes to the 2000 reissue. Personally, I like it a lot. I thought they did a great job on Wah-Wah. The 1970 version is almost unlistenable. Anyway. But yes, the out-takes and demos are just fantastic.
Wah Wah sounds so much better. The vocals aren't buried in a wash anymore.
I respectfully disagree about Wah Wah. While I liked the 2001 remaster, and the latest is okay, there was something -- audacious -- about the 1970 version of Wah Wah. It was just loud and crazy, but good. I first heard it on mono cassette(!) in 1970 and it was still my favorite track on ATMP.
Artists are sometimes the worst judge in these type situations. And who is to say George would have been happy with these results. Being the more level headed one, I can see him saying "Well, maybe this isnt the best idea after all"
Steven Wilson on beatles remixes! That would be so0o0 go0od. Itll never happen but yea...new ears,your right
In our opinion, this album showed the monster musician George Harrison really was.🎧
What Is Life is messed up on the new version. Where is the Big Sound? Where is the lift on the Choruses from the 16th note tambourine?
Wow, talk about context! Fascinating.
All Things Must Pass never sounded as good as it did in its original vinyl version. I am keeping George Harrison’s 2001 30th Anniversary remix as a companion piece to the 50th Anniversary remix. Ultimately, I like what Paul Hicks and Dhani Harrison have done with All Things Must Pass. The moving forward of George’s voice and the bass in the mix work on most of the album’s cuts. I’m with you on the alternate takes. They’re revelatory.
Bobby Whitlock, who played on this album, hates this remix....watch his video on TH-cam. He and CoCo explain their opinion...
Those forums are full of music snobs and know it all’s. I don’t read them anymore it just made me annoyed. I can’t quite make my mind up on modern remixes . Being an old guy I kinda want to hear the original record ( with no scratches and pops) . As for young people only buying vinyl when I was young that was all you could buy. Another first class video, informative as always.
The de-Spectored mids and highs are pleasant in listening to the “different-ness”. BUT, THE BASS! OMG! Like being held captive in a giant speaker cabinet! Unlistenable on Apple Music with AirPods Pro
From Day One: I liked what Phil Spector did on 'My Sweet Lord' and 'Wah-Wah,' but always felt like everything else he contributed to this album was way overdone. [Phil was much more successful with the John Lennon Albums.]
Because of this, I find the 50th anniversary remix to be an improvement over the original.
Unfortunately, it's a long way from what it could have been...it's still compressed, there's still too much reverb mud, and it seems like no one cared about high frequency extension.
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It's nice that you're rich Norman and that you can buy new vinyl. I've watched for a long time. Truthfully you do nothing for those of us who must build a collection from the dollar bin. It's not fun to go buy a new album, its also not feasible on $9k a year. The treasure hunt, nog knowing shat you'll come home with IS record collecting. Buying new by design is as well but not much of a challenge. You also never mention 78s which is a. constantly growing segment. Pro-ject, Rega, Clearaudio and Audio Technical all adding 3 speeds to turn tables. Regardless 78 is 78 only.
Just food for thought. Perhaps there was a time you were in the $1 bin. Carry on.
I wonder where George's Garden Gnomes are now? Those should be in a museum!
Also wonder what Eric Clapton thinks about all this remix nonsense.
Totally brilliant review. I loved the scene setting with albums such as Delaney & Bonnie & friends ++. Like you say towards the end having lived with albums such as this for decades they do become embedded and remixes can be troubling to the ears - I was exactly same with the 2001 remix. Great point also about young people and streaming. Well done you.
I also hated Phil's production before. But after I heard the original vinyl one and CD made in 1988 I changed my mind. The version that most people can get in 21st century is the 2001 remastered CD version and it is so bad. And it make people think it's because of the wall of sound, which is not true. The new remix is even worse, unlistenable imo.
Of course, the other thing that's maybe driving these 'competitive' remixes and repackaging ... is that it's a great way to keep the revenue stream flowing!
Personally, I'll keep to the original vinyl and their original context.
Totally agree about remixes Mazzy. In general, Im not a fan.
Im in the camp that sees it as dissecting the frog and in the process killing it. Just doesnt add any artistic betterment to the original.
Yes, one may hear a guitar there that they didnt hear before. But it wasnt suppose to be heard out front, artistically it was to accentuate and adorn the other guitar part to create magic. Same with back up vocals etc.
Also the demixing process, imo, is lame. I dont think the process and technology is up to snuff just yet. Maybe one day. Giles is waiting on Rubber Soul for that very reason. It just aint there.
I would love to hear what Steven Wilson could do with these type projects but he might take the stance that some albums are simply not candidates. Who knows.
What I would like to see instead of remixes is for Kevin Gray or someone in that league to remaster ATMP and then the demos hung on that boxset. Also would prefer showing more the creative process of a song with the demos and outtakes. From demo to full band rehearsal to pre-production to near finished. Show how the songs developed more or less. Would be a much more interesting journey imo.
Still I am thankful to be able to have the outtakes and demos in great quality. Since the remix is not my bag either, I am happy to stream the outtakes/demos.
Now if they decide to pull a Wildflowers Tom Petty and do a separate demo/outtakes 2 lp set? Im on it.
Hey Mazzy, always instructive for us. Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
We all still agree that the White Album is THE BEST remix of all the stuff since 2014 right?
They were looking for new fans in Coachella crowd in my opinion. The bass is definitely too prominent in the mix and the vocals are WAY too compressed. Listen to the song All Things Must Pass and during the parts where he's really trying to do some raspy singing, it's so compressed and over-produced it actually becomes unpleasant to the ear. The importance of understanding how to mix and then master a recording to sound amazing has never been more apparent than when you listen to the original recording.
New mix is my goto mix now with hi-res files. Not going back to old mix except for 2014 mix of my sweet lord.
I do agree with you on getting someone else to remastering and cutting the records. I don't mean to piss on what Giles Martin did on the previous Beatles releases but look at Blue note is doing with their 80th and tone poet series and the price they're giving us and the quality they're giving us and who they got to remaster and cut it's top notch. Apple could do much much better I just hope the let it be release finally gets what everyone is expecting.
i wonder how paul mccartney's record collection looks like. love the one you have.
Hay Mazzy, didn't realise you liked George Harrison...Haha. Great review, a good companion piece to the Uber unboxing.
I could listen to you talk The Beatles all day. I also enjoyed hearing positive words about the demos, which can be hit and miss to avid collectors.
Don’t forget MAD Dogs And Englishmen!
I think they are mixing these anniversary editions for a younger audience to attract them on streaming and vinyl. I personally like them. For ATMP, I always thought a lot of the tracks were a muddy mess. A lot of them were great. So, I am looking forward to the remix and see it as an addition, not a replacement. I think you're correct about maybe including two versions on the Bluray, a remix and a remaster. Maybe it's a cost thing? But yeah, that would be the thing to do. I also agree, even though I have most of the outtakes, their cleaned-up presentation is really worth the price of admission.
Bobby does not get credit deserved.
you nailed it - thank you
Mazzy, this is a video I know you felt you had to do and damn it, you did it good. This is a no fluff, honest, from the heart distillation of your real thoughts after listening to the set. Enjoyed and appreciated it, and it will definitely influence my 50th anniversary listening and/or re-purchase of the album that I have enjoyed for the last 50 years as well. Kudos!
Wonderful show
I have to say that I have not bought any version of this 50th Anniversary release. I have an original box set, in NM condition. But I’m interested in the new mixes/demos/outtakes etc., and was interested in your thoughts on this multiple-release, Mazzy, and so I watched your video. It’s funny - you said pretty much what I thought you would say, in general, anyway - and I think that’s what I needed to hear! That is, that these mixes don’t replace the original mix! So now I think I know what I wanna pick up - probably the 8-LP set. I’d LOVE to have the demos with Ringo & Klaus, for sure - I think the electric demos from day one would push my buttons! This is a very thoughtful review, and I thank you for that.
Wanna hear something funny? When I was in 6th grade, I remember Olivia Newton John’s hit version of “If Not For You”. She just turned it into a straight love song, I suppose - nothing really spiritual about it. But I LOVED her version; loved her voice and that slide guitar that almost sounds like it’s crying. I still dig that recording.
Wonderful video, Mazzy, thank you! 👍🏼❤️
The original with the Jam lp, is that included?
Yes🌟
Hi Mazzy I'm a really fan on you and a great fan on this album. But i disagree with you in this case. I'm really young 23 years old, but i never like the phill spector production. The first time that i listen to new remix of All Things Must Pass (the song) for me it seems like the song finally as something like oxigen, the voice of george in the new remix is great, the piano and the guitar sounds fantastic. I know what you think the wall of sound of spector, but I think that this new remix is like a reborn of this fantastic album for the next 50 years.
Then they succeeded going for a younger audience at that’s a good thing. ✌🏽
@@mazzysmusic yes probably the fact that I really like this new remix is that I don't spend 50 years with this album. And the thing that i try to explain is that the first time that i listen to the album my uncle gave me the italian first press and after that the first thing that i listen is a little bit of "mess" compare to the sound pf Band on the Run or Ram. The Wall of Sound probably looks like a little bit of mess for my generation. This new remixes is for me a fantastic thing of one of my favourite album of all time.
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I have heard you mention Jim Gordon a few times in your videos. I assume you know how his life ended up. A very sad and extreme mental decline. He murdered in mother in 1983 - still in prison. I bought the original ATMP when it came out in 1970. I ordered the 3CD set of this set which is supposed to arrive on Friday.
Yeah I used to comment on the mother killing situation and then some commenters thought it was bad taste. It’s too bad what happened to him and his mom. Still he was one of the best drummers in rock n roll. 🥁🥁🥁
@@mazzysmusic I don't see how it is in bad taste to mention a true fact. Many people in the US do seem to have a problem accepting the truth if it's not something they want to hear.
@@feber16 agree but maybe it was the way I said it a few times in a row ; “Mother killer Jim Gordon …”. 🤠
I'll courageously swim against the current here and openly state that I do NOT like the 50th anniversary remix of All Things Must Pass. The bass is ridiculously loud in the new mix. The reverb isn't gone, but all the echo and reverb have been flattened and compressed and just sound dull in the new mix. George's voice has been brought front and center now, but is that a good thing? I think Phil Spector understood that Harrison had a somewhat weak voice and limited vocal range, so he padded George's thin vocals with the Wall-of-Sound treatment. That was the right decision, in my opinion. The big bombastic numbers like "What is Life", "Wah Wah", "Awaiting on You All" and "Bring It Down" really lack the big boisterous wide sound they had in Spector's original mix. But the bass drowns out everything in the new mix. I believe that years from now fans will look back on the 50th Anniversary remix as a very poor remix in bad taste.
I agree that it can’t touch the sound of the original record album ✌🏽
@@mazzysmusic I think you touched on the key point in your video above, Norman, and that is that we've lived with the Phil Spector Wall-of-Sound treatment of All Things Must Pass all our lives and don't really want to divert from that. I agree with you completely that All Things Must Pass is THE best solo Beatles album by any of the four. That being said, it is the one album by any solo Beatle that shouldn't be f*cked with too much. It was perfect as is in 1970 and forevermore.
Thanks for the thoughtful review, Mazzy.
Thanks for this thoughtful video. So, for someone who is familiar with ATMP but never owned it on vinyl (and is not interested in the demos and outtakes), is the consensus that an older pressing with the original mix is recommended over this new mix?
I have an mp3 of this album. I might get the remix on vinyl. Great video!
Yeah Yeah their kind of re-recording musical history. OK, no problem $$$$$$ ! Have the original from the old days, I'm good with that. Too much talking kind of all over the map this and that whatever. The comment "if you can still hear" who the hell are you and piece to you ? Pal...Dig..
It's a digital remix, pressed to vinyl. Why bother? If you're really interested in this, buy the cheapest vinyl version available, compare it too your og version, and send it back to Amazon before 30 days is up.
Could you comment on what the 2000 remastered, 30th anniversary version does for you? Not remixed, obviously, and under supervision of the man himself, so, perhaps, more faithful
When you were talking about all the influences of ATMP of 1970s albums and albums that are similar, i was really wanting you to mention Elton John’s “Tumbleweed Connection” which was heavily influenced by all those artists you mentioned especially The Band, Neil Young and Leon Russell.
Got the 8 piece vinyl set and I found your review to be very much in line with my experience. Still love my original copy as well. Well spoken, sir.
Bobby Whitlock is angry about this ....he hates it
Excellent background detail with Delaney and Bonnie, Leon Russell, et.al. But you left out Mad Dogs and English men which had Joe Crocker added to the same gang! A great period, with great promise, but pretty short. Still, really nice contexualizing. Thanks!
I love this review - very intelligent and very fair. I agree that the best way to approach the new stereo mix is as a complement or alternative, not as a definitive version. So many new (previously buried) sounds now come to light, which I found fantastic as a lifelong fan of All Things Must Pass. Perhaps for every newfound sound there's also something lost from before, but overall, I think Wah-Wah, Let It Down, I Dig Love (especially) and Hear Me Lord actually benefit from the new treatment. Those high-pitched backing vocals behind the lines "And I know how sweet life can be / If I keep myself free" in Wah-Wah - wow, so beautiful. I agree that My Sweet Lord possibly suffers, but not as much as Isn't It a Pity: yes, we get to hear a fuzzy synthesizer figure that's quite a surprise (I've haven't yet gone back to previous CDs to check whether the synth was there at all), but Pity, as much as My Sweet Lord, is the big "rock cathedral" ATMP track ... so, well, that is a bit of a pity. I've got used to the drier George lead vocals, after being a little concerned when the title track was previewed late last year. The outtakes/jams disc is phenomenal, so funny and exciting in places, same with the Day 1 demos disc. Overall, I think All Things Must Pass has always been such a MYSTERIOUS album, in a way that, say, JL/Plastic Ono Band is not, and in fact no piece of John or Paul music is, because they were so (too?) confident and assertive - meaning that it's okay if something about George's masterpiece remains elusive. It's the way it should be, somehow. Loved your piece on the Uber Deluxe as well, Norman. What a work of art that is!
I love this version way more than the original whose whole sound gave me headaches. They actually erased Spector from the production! Now I can hear the whole album without that feeling of heaviness, chaos and reverb. Spector ruined a lot of albums for the Beatles… Let it be, Imagine and Rock’n’roll come to my mind
Norman, I'm guessing I'm about your age. I have 6 vinyl pressings of ATMP (original UK being my favorite). I agree with every word you said in your brilliant video. BUT...I still do not understand why George included TWO similar "Isn't It a Pity" versions when he had so many other songs he could have included. As much as I love this album, all these great demos make this an even bigger mystery. Why?
Thanks, you answered my question, which I asked in your uber box opening video, of your opinion of the vinyl tracks. I did also watch Bobby Whitlock's scathing video today, and it's good to also get the opinion of an objective, experienced third party.
The Beatles used Phil on let it be , ( Paul claims he didn’t like “ the long and winding road” wich brought tears to my eyes at 9 years old when it came out , it was the violins ,celos and horns , “Phil’s over production “ in wich I’ve gotten older DoNT care for as much) John used Phil on his first album , George on his , Phil had something for these guys , possibly more so for for as you say George’s voice being not as strong as the others , during the Beatles he had them to back him , on “his” album he had Eric and Bobby, Bobby being the strongest voice of the entire group including John and Paul and Eric , but if you like the warmth of the albums ( and knew and heard them as new), there’s no comparison to them no matter if you Prefer “accoustic spontaneity “ or over cooked steak , a good album IS a good album, BUT , what you get used to is always hard to beat , especially when the one who did it originally is no longer with us.
Oh yes and if by chance I happened upon a Beatles album variation in a store somewhere I would probably buy it. I have Help which is an import suppossed to be worth BUCKs but yeah whatever.
Enjoy watching your videos of your record and CD collections. I’m getting the George Harrison 50th Anniversary 5 CDs and blu-ray audio on Friday. I don’t have much vinyl from the Beatles in my collection. I’m interested in buying a few vinyl boxed sets. I was looking at the Red box Christmas box set of the Beatles. Could you tell me what tracks are on those 45’s. Do you know where I can fine one and at a good price? I live in Maryland. Thanks. Jim
I am with you @Norman Maslov - the music should be made to sound great no matter which medium (vinyl, stream, CD, Blu-Ray, etc). I don't get why they should sound the same. I feel the experience should be great no matter what medium you choose, I want the production to be optimize the music so the experience is amazing.
In regards to CD's as a young person - I still buy them, I prefer the vinyl. I am not going to lie I have The Band Superdeluxe sets (Big Pink/Brown Album/Stage Fright) and I have never even listened the CD's in them even with the Woodstock and Royal Albert Hall recordings. I have streamed them though. Glad to have them though.
Thank you, enjoyed listening to your insight. Obviously there will be controversy when any remix of a classic album comes out…many people will always stay true to the original ‘sacred’ version. But I liked how you evaluated and explained why younger modern ears might want or hear things sounding a bit different. But I agree with you, my favorite is the 1970 production, to me it fits like a well worn glove…confortable, familiar and easy to wear.
Love the remixed of everything that has come out. My only complains is:
-the Beatles remixes box sets being different sizes and not a standard look.
-the quality of the poster from Plastic Ono Band. Really bad to see it píxeles.
As always, thanks Mazzy. I always wonder about these new releases of old records. I'm old. My hearing is not great and I have tinnitus in both ears. So I don't even know if I am capable of hearing differences between those I have heard or the new stuff. Not to say I'm deaf or anything (though my wife thinks I am). I no longer have my original copy of All Things Must Pass, and I do not know where it went (this is why you wrote Maslov on some of your albums) so I'll probably pick up the deluxe version, because much fine music lies within. As always, please carry on. You out of the blue bring up something I'd completely forgotten about (e.g., Herbie Hancock Sextant) and it makes me happy.
Absolutely with you regarding inclusion of things we've heard on bootlegs. I've had Beware of ABKCO since the 90s, but I'm so glad the Harrison Estate are finally able to make some money on those recordings. A lot of the Day 1 demo's are new to me, as are the other takes.
My early favourite on this set is the Day 1 demo of "I Dig Love". It's so much fun.
I have All Things Must Pass with the Apple label and the Purple Capitol label. I think the original is all I really need (and maybe only one copy instead of two). It's a Pity the liner notes on the original do not tell us when the drummer is Ringo, Allan White, or Jim Gordon, etc. Great thoughts on your favorite solo Beatle album.
Thinking about getting the deluxe. What would you recommend the cd or vinyl version?
But we all have the originals. why would you put out the same thing we already have?. I want the new mix. I already know the original.
The initial release of All Things Must Pass was a masterpiece. Any fiddling with it is like trying to rewrite history. Let it be… And the price? Rediculous.
Thank you for your review, after I listened the remixes I still prefer the 70s original mixes with all the magic on it, I really enjoyed the demos and different takes, really interesting passages on the creation.
I’m 63 and bought this album when it came out. I never did warm up to the wall of sound thing. I’ve always wondered what it would have sounded like with a less cluttered mix, so I’m eager to get a copy of this. The last version wasn’t to my taste, but it sounds like this is going to be closer. I didn’t know Phil Specter from Phil Everly when I first heard this music, but ATMP just didn’t sound like a Beatles record to me.
Absolutely dead on discussion on the influence and albums done at the time that influenced All Things Must Pass.
I never even knew about what Phil did to this album or Let it Be until years later , maybe even after the internet and so many people were complaining about him. I was thinking I could not imagine LIB and ATMP sounding different and or better. LIB...Naked I got and was not impressed with it. Sure the songs are great but the stripped down I did not like as much. It was not horrible just different. I hope the ATMP is not too stripped off as again I did not mind Phil. I do look forward to getting this. All of those albums you mention at the beginning I have them all and I may sit down one day and play them all back to back. Take care.