Love bobby and Coco's videos. Hurt for them. Bobby is the most loving and respectful people on tube. Never says a bad word about anyone. He tells a story of someone who killed his dog and he does not mention their name. And bobby sings, plays, wrights, and tells the greatest stories like no one else. Peace and love
There are rumors that Clapton and Bobby had? A pretty riff between them. Rumor is Clapton bought all the rights from Bobby from the Layla album. I’m pretty sure Clapton had his hand in it in the background. Clapton became a superstar. George already was. Bobby, he is just a musician in there eyes. I’ve watched some of Bobby’s accounts from the Derrick and the Dominoes and all things must pass sessions. In both his TH-cam channel and from previous interviews. The stories are different. So they may have felt Bobby is unreliable. I saw one interview where Bobby states that the group was invited to go see the Almond brothers . After the show Eric asked them to come back and Jam. Bobby states in another interview they were done with recording that day and decided to see the Almond brothers. Then Duane became a hired musician.
@@ericfaley9019 The two stories are the same. They were invited to go see the Allman brothers after they were done recording for the day, so decided to go. There is no conflict in these stories.
Amazing video! The continued mistreatment of Bobby is so disheartening and upsetting. Over the past year, watching his videos has given me so much joy. I agree that they should reprint the sleeve notes and save the reputations. The fans, Bobby Whitlock, let alone music history, deserve the truthful recollection of this amazing music. Love all your videos, keep them coming.
Besides being a top-flight musician, Bobby is one outstanding person on every level. His videos, whereby he shares his memories of participating in some of the most iconic rock songs every written, are incredible pieces of information that are of great value to history.
Thank you! Bobby seems like a real nice guy! The kind of guy you wouldn't mind hanging with, and George seen that. I could sit down and listen to Bobby tell stories of days gone by! How they recorded songs, who played what...amazing! God Bless him and his wife Coco ✝⛪🤎
@@julieverdusco5402 look at the All Things Must Pass album - Bobby Whitlock plays on almost all of the songs. Here is just one of many videos where Bobby Whitlock talks about George Harrison and ATMP: th-cam.com/video/IlZjJDM8Do0/w-d-xo.html
After Bobby's videos were pulled I decided not to purchase any of the CDs no matter how good the remixes and outtakes may be. I was going to get the 5 CD set after seeing Bobby's enthusiasm for the music but when his videos were pulled, I pulled my support for All Things Must Pass. I am not into corporate censorship, especially of a man (Bobby Whitlock) who is deeply humble, truthful, and happy to share his honesty. The Harrison Estate has done a terrible thing to him no matter the motive. It seems like they just want to make money without a care for how it's done. Really truly, I will say shame on them. Thanks John for posting a video emphasizing some facts from Bobby's pulled videos and supporting Bobby Whitlock in other ways!!!! Much appreciated!!!!!
I applaud 👏 you John for standing up for accuracy & the simple truth ,,, Bobby Whitlock deserves his due recognition & so does ATMP . It is now a historical point in Western Music and as such is owed all the truth it can be given . This new release the 50th Anniversary needs to be put right and be as accurate as can be , there is no honourable alternative. Thank you again for being a shining light on all this,, 🥂Cheers
Yes it is strange how Bobby Whitlock seems to be overlooked in the re-writing of music histories, his soulful Hammond and vocals contributed such a lot to the classic recordings!
Just the sort of behaviour from Georges estate that George himself would have absolutely loathed. He hated the shenanigans played by "the bass player's" copyright lawyers... this sort of thing exactly. The estate no longer acknowledges the wishes or ethic of the man. It's all about Benjamin Dollars now... not about George Harrison at all...
@@lilmoe4364 John Heaton is right, saying that he doesn't know how much longer Dhani and Olivia can hide behind "It's not us, y'see...it's THEM!!" G'wan!!
Saw the Walmart big box set for all of George Harrison's albums for $250, now there is one album with lots additional from those sessions as comparison perhaps
Bobby is living history, and can give you details that few, if any others, can at this point. It's disheartening to see the Harrison machine treating him this way. I'm a huge Harrison/Beatles fan, but it's business moguls side of things that besmirch the entire legacy. But in the meantime, Bobby and CoCo are doing a fabulous job of getting his own legacy recorded and available. Great job, as per usual, John. Thank you for drawing attention to this injustice perpetrated against Bobby.
Luckily I saw his videos before they were taken down. I didn't see any reason they should have been removed. All he was doing was stating facts about the sessions. And as he says, he was at every single session so he should know. Like you mention, maybe the Harrison estate doesn't want to look bad for not having contacted him earlier for interviews about the album. Just seems odd to me.
There was not ONE good reason for taking down those videos other than to HIDE the embarrassment of what they failed to do - to tell accurate story and to treat Bobby Whitlock, one of the core musicians on that album, with respect. Shame on all of them. George must be turning over in his grave…
@@tmo7734 I get your point. It's clearly made with the Harrison estate left a bit red-faced. For more historical accuracy, George was cremated and his ashes spread in the Ganges. No 'grave'.
@@bartoncross-tierney8941 Thanks for the clarification. While I’m not sure, I suspect it’s almost impossible for someone to turn over in their ashes. Best wishes. Take care…
Jim Gordon has been in my life for over 20 years. He remembers everything. The music world is about to find out. Olivia is all about money! George was about the music. ❤️. Bobby is a nice guy from my home state! Amazing musician!
I’m really missing Bobby and Coco a lot. Hey guys, please let us know how you’re doing. This world needs your voices. Best wishes and prayers for everyone involved. May peace prevail.
I watched Bobby and Coco as they warmly remembered ATMP stories. Bobby had the record set that George had originally sent him in his hands. Got me wishing I could splurge on the re-issue, never owned it in any form. Bobby brings so much heart---in his singing, his playing, his conversation. I'd guess that his contribution to this work was gigantic. John, wonderful job laying this out. Let's hope they do make corrections and hang the cost. Take a sad song and make it better---for Bobby and any others who should be shown a little appreciation.
Thank you so much for posting this. I watched both Bobby and Cocos videos on this and did find it strange that they had spoken to the Harrison estate and then on the later video, one of them had been taken down. I don't know who is supposed to have a say over credits but if it's down to Danni and Olivia then they should be grown up about it and rectify it. If it's down to the label, which is likely, then it has to change and the Bobby and anyone else who hasn't been properly credited needs to be. I won't be surprised if the latter is true and it doesn't get sorted. Another case of musicians getting short-changed as usual.
Thank you for making this video John. Bobby has only reminisced about the experience and expressed gratitude for being involved. This is making the Harrison Estate look bad to me. I’d expect them to be gracious and apologetic for not acknowledging Bobby’s contributions.
This is another example of Apple’s and the Individual solo Beatles estate’s separation from their fan base and their confusion and cluelessness over what fans expect, want, and approve of. Another missed opportunity indeed.
Nice to see you here, Matt! Love your videos and looking forward to the next one! You and John are my favourite TH-cam personalities discussing the Beatles and 60’s music!
I understand that the 50th anniversary of All Things Must Pass is something worth commemorating, but there does seem to be more of a concern from the Harrison estate about money-making, rather than overseeing and sharing, in the best way possible, the artistic integrity of George's legacy. Big shout out to you, BTW, Matt. Your TH-cam films, especially on the Fabs, are wonderfully reasoned, informed and articulate. As for you, John, your delivery on every vid you post is sublime...
I’ve seen Bobby and Coco’s TH-cam channel and he never said one unkind word about George or the sessions. Other than to explain that certain artists claims about their contribution to the album was incorrect. Very stupid for this organization to strong arm one of the artist that was actually there and played on almost every track and acknowledges the ones he wasn’t playing on. Bobby is one of the few players left who can remember the sessions.
Especially, since guys like Clapton and Ringo, were a tad unreliable on remembering, due to their intake of 'substances', at the time. I had a good laugh, at that one.
Bobby posted a video decrying what a bad mix the latest release is and it was taken down in a matter of days. www.noise11.com/news/bobby-whitlock-tears-shreds-off-george-harrisons-50th-all-things-must-pass-20210810
Thank you so much for this video. I’m a little embarrassed to tell you that it was the Utube algorithm that brought you to my attention. As much as the algorithm irritates me with the out there suggestions, sometimes they bring me true gems. Both you and Bobby Whitlock now have another subscriber. Keep fighting the good fight.
That Bobby has been publicly telling the stories like a Village Elder, complete with breaking into divine laughter and song, very publicly online for the past year or so without Apple or ANYONE in Beatles Inc paying serious attention is somehow… very cool… VERY George…
One has to wonder if Dhani and/or Olivia knows anything about this? Karma is not just a word, and ignorance of what happens on your behalf is no excuse. Hopefully, someone can remedy this situation. If not, then I have held too high an estimate of their true spirituality. What would George think of this? What would Love do in this situation? Hmmmm.
Karma has nothing to do w/ this, Bobby W has already stated that G Harrison was meticulous about royalties and thru Bobby W's tumultuous life (post Harrison) he had always received royalty chks from GH that seemed to always pay bills like lighting or electrics....
And after all the personal promotional work she did for the Beatles in America where she lived before anyone had even heard of the Beatles in America. I believe she received $500 dollars a month which is peanuts till George died then nothing.
I listened to All Things Must Pass on Spotify and a small blue tooth speaker and it sounded fine . But I haven’t heard it through a good stereo system on cd or vinyl and apparently that is where the problem lies. It seems from what I’m hearing the remastering of the album wasn’t very well done. The way Phil Spector recorded the album with all that heavy reverb I wouldn’t think it would be possible to totally strip away Spector’s production without stripping away some of the instrumentation. I would like to hear the vinyl version to compare it to the original version but I don’t think I want to spend the big bucks. I don’t appreciate the way Bobby Whitlock is being treated , by pulling down his videos describing the way the album developed , who played on different songs and his opinion of it fans are losing a piece of rock history. It’s really a shame .
Thanks John for that nice wrap up on Bobby Whitlock and his major musical contribution to ATMP and historical knowledge of those sessions. I too am a fan of BW's TH-cam channel and have learned a great deal from him on those classic rock years. I hope like everyone else that Olivia and Dhani make things right with BW before the albums release. Thanks as always for your insight. William, Parker CO
Yes, Olivia and Dhani should step up - if they can. Remember some years back, George was criticized (as were Olivia and Dhani) for not helping George's sister, Louise, when she was in financial straits? In reality, George DID help Louise, but tax laws in the U.S. set a limit on the amount a person can give to a family member (than a spouse or children), before it's considered a gift and subject to taxation. Giving a larger amount of money to Louise would have resulted in a tax on her, which George wouldn't be allowed to pay on her behalf.
@@markprovance8995 actually George's sister declared that she was cut-off from the pension after George's death and that she was not informed about George illness until a couple of days before George's death.
I too will not be buying any of the new "product"..... not only because it's insultingly overpriced, but also because of the treatment of Bobby Whitlock. Here's a hint lawyers...and Olivia & Dhani: Thousands of us already saw Bobby's videos, the word is out. You can't bury it. YOU have the chance here and now to make things right - not to cover anything up.
@@keriford54 From what I've heard I agree... unfortunately. Sounds like someone mixed it in their bedroom on cheap insufficient monitors and didn't know how to properly EQ anything anyway. Embarassing.
you are 1000% correct in my opinion as well. I as a kid and thru the years bought every Beatle album and every George Harrison album at fair prices 150.00 is absurd. just rediculis. the estate has well over 300 million dollars. so what is their problem.. Greed???? I'll say it shame on whoever is behind thisd madness. and as said bobby Whitlock is the most humble and honest and good natured plus great musician out there and for them to ask him to take down the video is wrong. what the heck, and that is being polite. I don't think George would ever have done that or charged 150.00 for a reissue no matter what...
The bottom line is we got the music all ready in our hearts, no one can charge us a cent, George gave us a message in all his music , Beware of the darkness and isn't it a pity,
It's interesting to see how often it happens that the estate (that hasn't done any contribution to the artist's work as such, whatsoever) of a deceased artist take it upon themselves to "guard" the artist's legacy, with so much, unduly zeal...
Your are the first to touch upon what I have been thinking about... It's all about LIABILITY! Bobby Whitlock is in a similar situation as say Mick Taylor & the STONES. Whitlock & Taylor are obvious heavy contributors to some obviously great works that are now "property" of "Rock n' Roll Corporations. They both were compensated very little for their work. Any actions of these Corps giving these workhorses any creedence of importance or authority would activate the power of so many LAWYERS adept at this sort of "lawsuit thing". A sad & familiar consequence and fallout of a meteoric era in the art of R n' Roll!
@@thebostonbrawler1 I love Keith Richards rhythm guitar playing that is his strength lead guitar is not. I think anyone who collaborates deserves songwriting credit. Mick Taylor’s time with the Stones was their greatest musical period. With Ron Wood they’re unfortunately more like a really great cover band. They lost their creativity many decades ago. It’s obvious when they keep pumping out live albums and few noteworthy studio albums .
@@docbearmb Its unfortunate , because I loved Ronnie’s playing with the Faces . He does what is needed no more no less. Mick Taylor can still play scorching lead guitar. If he could write great original songs and sang better he would have been a bigger star. He didn’t go in for theatrics like Hendrix but what a great guitarist he is and he made every band better. The Stones were lucky to get him when they did he made them the greatest rock and roll band in the world during his tenure with them. God bless Charlie Watts may he Rest In Peace. He was a master drummer.
Sadly, we’re slowly losing the direct links to some of the most important times in rock and pop - the 60s and early 70s. The people who were actually there can tell the whole story, straight from the horse’s mouth. Once they’re gone it’s all conjecture and hearsay. No opportunity should be lost to hear them tell their story. And record it.
Dhani should’ve brought all of the remaining living artists who played on All Things Must Pass and have their input on the remixing or remastering of all things must pass. Truly dreadful remix
If not for Bobby Whitlock's YT channel, I'd have known nothing of his contributions to D&B, D&D, & ATMP. His obscurity to this 55 yr old is more a sad statement on record labels fame than on my own ignorance. I am now a HUGE Whitlock fan!
Isn't it a pity Isn't it a shame How we break each other's hearts And cause each other pain. . Bobby's a good man, doesn't deserve to be hurt by Olivia and Dhani.
@@BillMcGirr Will you be buying the 60th and 70th anniversary editions ? George will be reincarnated on the 100th anniversary edition. He will promote it himself.
I had also seen the videos before they removed. them. The only thing I could surmise, as the reason for the "estate" having them taken down, was that Bobby's factual recollection differed from what they had already finalized, packaged, and released for sale to those with too much money to blow on such things. They screwed up on the facts and it's easier these days to silence the truth rather than admit error and remedy their mistakes. Bobby and CoCo are good folks above this sort of crap. Wish I'd have stayed in Texas instead of moving back to California in the hopes of meeting them. Appreciate that you addressed this John!
"They screwed up on the facts and it's easier these days to silence the truth rather than admit error and remedy their mistakes" And can you imagine a sentiment more antithetical to the good-guy image that attached itself (mostly deservedly) to George Harrison?
There was an awesome video John. Very direct, and very much needed. Poor Bobby is getting the short end of the stick. Thanks for calling Olivia and Dhani out on this one. They really need to make this right… Sooner rather than later.
As someone who loves the memories and stories that Bobby shares ,not only on George Harrison but also Eric Clapton,I wonder,because he also was not interviewed in the Martin Scorsese documentary "Living In The Material World",maybe it's the accent?,not refined enough for them perhaps?,it's a shame because he was there for HISTORY, and he adds so much with his recollections.
Thanks John - a knowledgeable and heartfelt comment on this lamentable turn of events. I came here from Andrew Dixon's live stream and I am delighted at: A) Your spirited defence of Bobby Whitlock and B) The absence of floods of intrusive mid-roll ads you used to have and which drove me away from your channel some time ago.
I wish there ws a new albun coming from Bobby Whitlock of just his incredible jams and recollections. His channnel is so much fun and he's the best of people. That might be more appealing than a remix that did not involve George. The original version was perfection, why are they fooling with it?
Thank you John for another thoughtful, well researched video on a subject of great interest to George fans. For whatever it's worth, I agree with you...the wooden box, plastic figurines, wooden bookmark, Hari Krishna beads and book and colored vinyl have nothing to do with George's legacy or skill as a musician and singer. The most I'd be willing to buy is the remastered album and all of the unreleased material and accompanying book. I have no interest in the toys included in the "Uber" edition...
I agree with all said in this video. I've been enjoying Bobby and Coco's TH-cam channel, learning many details I'd never heard before. They missed the boat, not having Bobby contribute to the printed material. I suspect that Dhani and Olivia never met Bobby and of course they weren't around at the time of the sessions, so my guess is they just don't know the key role of Bobby in the core band on the album. George isn't here to say, 'Hey, let's get Bobby involved, he remembers how it went down.' So, yes, it's a shame and isn't it a pity. I preordered the $25 CD version. I already have a nice vinyl box set of the Phil Spector version. Sadly, the prices of reissues for anniversary sets are sky high throughout the industry.
How I wish I had watched the Bobby Whitlock videos when I had the chance, yet thank you John for acknowledging some of the musicians on the All Things Must Pass Album, and also sharing some of Bobby's memories. What a shame that he was not consulted for this reissue!
It has to do with money. Bobby mentioned in the video's who played on what track. Session musicians usually show up, record their part, get paid and that's the end of the story for them. With this re-release of this album, they like to keep it that way.
There's a rather strange distrustful stance that seems to come out of the Harrison Estate. They seem to have this attitude that people are out to exploit them at every turn. This doesn't seem to exist with Paul's camp which only accentuates the Harrison's stance. You only have to listen to Mark Lewisohn's interviews to gain a sense of that. It's all rather weird. Bobby whitlock has nothing but admiration and enthusiasm for George and you get a a sense that it has hurt/disappointed him at being shut out.
That attitude has been around since Revolver was recorded. "There's people standing 'round who'll screw you in the ground, they'll fill you in with all their sins. You'll see."
@@fshoaps I don't know the specific ones but I have heard them. Took me a while to find. George accused him of being a bootlegger during the anthology but with zero proof. He wanted him off the series as he was a researcher. Paul convinced george to keep him on. Paul didn't believe it and worked with Mark after the series so that tells me something. Like someone said in another comment, once you were in the Harrison's black book you were out. Completely out. Don't think it took much.
@@michaelmccormick6401 I'm of the opinion that George did the Anthology grudgingly. He needed the $ after Denis O'Brien ripped him off. While I loved the series and the book and the three albums, I still wonder why Paul and Ringo and Yoko (not to mention Clapton, Dylan, Petty, and Jeff Lynne) simply didn't give him what he needed to keep living at Friar Park. Not even as a loan...just as a gift to a friend.
@@michaelmccormick6401 @Finn Shoaps Here are the details regarding the falling out between Lewisohn and Harrison. Mark Lewisohn as most Beatles fans are aware of gained access to the EMI tape library for his book "The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions" in 1988. Several years later there was an author by the name of Mark Hertsgaard who was mates with Lewisohn and asked his friend for assistance in accessing the EMI tape library for a book he was writing on The Beatles entitled "A Day In The Life". Lewisohn agreed to do this and believed he had gone through all of the proper channels in helping his friend gain access to the tape library and it was through this access that Hertsgaard was able to write his fantastic book which was published in 1995. However somewhere along the line, misinformation was relayed back to respective camps of George Harrison and Yoko Ono who were informed that Lewisohn was granting unauthorized access unilaterally to The Beatles' tape archive. Upon learning this both Harrison and Ono were very angry and it resulted in some unfortunate repercussions for Lewisohn. To begin with Lewisohn was originally slated to be the curator of the "Lennon: Anthology" project and had already devised a track listing for it. Ono immediately replaced him with Rob Stevens who went on to work with Ono on that project. Harrison also had Lewisohn's role reduced in terms of The Beatles Anthology and while McCartney prevented Lewisohn from being fired, his involvement in the project was significantly reduced. Remember all of this happened in spite of the fact that Lewisohn had gone through the proper channels and obtained permission from EMI to grant his mate access to their tape library.
50 years on yet certain egos still get in the way..... Bobby said & done absolutely nothing wrong here but do you know what i believe the guy probably wishes he did now!!! Disgraceful behaviour from the Harrison estate which makes the £850 price-tag for the special box set plus the lesser releases still badly overpriced grate even more now!!!
I am so glad that you posted your excellent critique. I hope Dhani and Olivia see it. I wonder what George must be thinking of this. I appreciate you John. Thank you for this and for all your work.
Record companies seem to lack the basic understanding that review/reaction videos are literally free promotion and advertising for their products. Any coverage of the music results in increased exposure to both old and new audiences, giving the music commercial and cultural longevity. I think I suspect this is more of a label/rights issue than actual interference from Olivia or Dhani--record companies are notorious for their non-negotiability/inflexible thinking and I feel like I've heard several artists discuss their personal views that they love the ongoing covers/adaptations/reactions but even when they verbally approve things, the companies get the final say and they categorically defer to 'cease and desist' tactics. It's a great way to make your music irrelevant and render your art 'forgotten.'
I agree. Olivia and Dhani seem like genuinely good people. This smacks of typical record company stuff. Olivia and Dhani should overrule all these lawyers and executives. I'm pretty sure George would've.
People have software to make mp3s of the TH-cam videos. It’s simple and only takes a minute. Artists have a right to get paid for their work. Maybe you haven’t noticed over the last 26 years, but the music business has lost many millions from illegal downloads.
@@jamess7626 I work in the music business, and these people do not control the record company. I don’t use TH-cam under my real name for a variety of reasons. I work in the music business, and that claim in this video is idiotic and false. They haul Olivia and Dhani out when they need extra publicity. The record label has final and creative control, it’s in the record contract.
Bummer to learn this,especially as it's now old news. Thanks for the d lo,hope it worked out nicely. Something is really wrong with your soul if you can't get along with Bobby or CoCo...
The Friar Park Fan Club appreciates Bobby's magnificent memories of working on ATMP. It would be nice if others can enjoy them in the future. #LetBobbySpeak #WhitlockEffect.
Bobby has EVERY right to record his oral histories. They didn’t ask him to contribute to reflections. Fine. Bobby was okay with that. But his whole channel is a marvelous look at the music industry and he has every legitimacy to share his stories, which are very well done by the way. I’ve watched these videos and for the life of me cannot figure out what the objection is, OTHER than for marketing purposes. The record company wanted to control Google Search results and wanted their new release to pop up and not Bobby Whitlock comments. But I agree with John here. Everything Bobby shared does nothing but celebrate the album, the mystique and genius of the album. It looks like it was an ask and he complied. But I am very disappointed in whoever in the Harrison estate had a hand in this. I adore George and always will. I want to feel good about his estate too.
Very true. Everything Bobby has said rings true, and he doesnt put a price tag on it. He's just a living catalogue of everything music from the Stax days on through the Delaney, Dominoes, and ATMP years.
"It's all too much." Thank you for the perspective...and I agree whole heartedly with your assessment. and FYI, my comment on Bobby's channel about your video....got Taken Down. Strange days indeed...
Olivia and Dhani: the George Harrison Estate. Up until now I have respected their preservation of George's legacy. Olivia is from a humble background and Dhani is the most amiable guy. The Living in the Material World was the ultimate doc. I remember the day after George died the BBC were due to broadcast a tribute to him on TV but it was pulled last minute. Understandable at the time and probably a good thing in hindsight. But now they are just taking the biscuit. Too much control and pooing on us fans.
Yani and his mother didn't contribute one single iota to any of George's projects - these are people who are completely out of touch with you, me and 99% of the rest of the world- one word surmises everything those inconsiderate elitists are about: greed
I lost a bit of respect for them a few years ago when I read that they had cut off his sister Louise... she was getting a couple thousand dollars a month and then that ended after George died...
If that is true that speaks volumes. Olivia, and this is from someone I know who runs into and is around her regularly, is maybe not the same as the image projected/packaged. The words "she's very LA money ish,condescending"... Dhani I don't know about.
Thanks for putting this information about the 'cover-up'' out there. Bobby Whitlock is just giving his knowledge of his experience during these sessions which contradicts the George Harrison's estates view. I too will not be interested in these new mixes unless they give Bobby his due.
Think you've prompted the Estate into a rethink possibly with your video John. This has been entered onto the Official George Harrison twitter account. 'George had been inspired by @bobdylan ’s Nashville sound & flew Pete Drake in for the All Things Must Pass sessions at the suggestion of Bobby Whitlock.' - Interesting, hopefully the videos will be back on too.
That's it! I was going to BUY the LPs and CDs but now I think I will download it for free from some MP3 website. George's Estate don't need the money. I do. Hare Krishna.
They've got to make this right. Money should be no object. This is history. Even if delays the release. Make it up to the fans for a change. Great review John!
It's all about LIABILITY! Bobby Whitlock is in a similar situation as say Mick Taylor & the STONES. Whitlock & Taylor are obvious heavy contributors to some obviously great works that are now "property" of "Rock n' Roll Corporations. They both were compensated very little for their work. Any actions of these Corps giving these workhorses any creedence of importance or authority would activate the power of so many LAWYERS adept at this sort of "lawsuit thing". A sad & familiar consequence and fallout of a meteoric era in the art of R n' Roll!
I think it was wrong to ask Bobby to take down his posts and I would guess it was lawyers requesting such. Bobby was doing nothing but commenting honestly to enlighten the session participation since he was one of the main musicians who was there and contributed and witnessed the recording of ATMP. I would say the Harrison Estate probably could remedy this by issuing an addendum or booklet of session comments that could be gathered rather quickly. It may not make the pressing and release that is to occur in August 2021 but it would definitely head off this backlash. The Estate's actions were entirely unnecessary and unwarranted. Leave Bobby alone. Better yet...get his input as well as all other living musicians' comments for all who participated. I loved Bobby's stories and his and others commentary would really add to this momentous release. John Heaton is dead on.
@@robertgosselin14 Bobby and Coco say they did not delete the posts, and they will be re posted sometime after the new ATMP 50th album has been released. Apparently their video comments were merely "bad timing" or some such(?) as they were made to understand the reason to take them down.
Great video John - totally agree with the sentiments you express. ATMP is arguably George’s definitive statement and absolutely worthy of being treated to the same format as the recent Plastic Ono Band and Imagine boxes for example. While not cheap, those two feel like labours of love, offer fascinating new listening experiences and insights and are simply fantastic to get lost in - in my view great value. The ATMP 50th Anniversary by contrast is shaping up to feel like one big missed opportunity with more than a whiff of ‘what can we get away with’ rip-off…
In a studio hub in Shoreditch, London, I am the caretaker, gardener. In one of the studios is the graphic design company that has done all the McCartney re issues. They have achieved some serious awards for their work as well. Over the years I think it has been a major part of their work which shows the amount of effort if takes to get these re issues right. I wholeheartedly agree that re badged versions should not be ripping people of, but there is quite a bit of income dished out to people along the line. As the studios in the hub pay service charges, this is how I get my living. So in some small way I get revenue from Paul McCartney(my hero) how good is that!
Interesting Patrick thanks! Here’s coping we get London Town & Back To The Egg archive soon! Funnily enough I am over from Hungary and have just been in Shoreditch record shopping today (Rough Trade, Flashback) - I like the atmosphere around Brick Lane…big contrast from the City!
It’s not the estate. It’s the people at the label. Selling Beatles recordings and the solo albums the the bread and butter of EMI’s catalogue sales. No one in the business contacts the players like that. They didn’t release anniversary editions to be sentimental, they do it to make money.
I’ve been reading and hearing on Sirius XM Dahnin Harrison is doing the 50th anniversary remix. As you mentioned that Bobby was a key musician on the All Things Must Pass album why wasn’t he invited to the Concert for George? Most of the other musicians were there! Bobby played for the Jools Holland show. He did 2 numbers with Clapton. In the interviews Bobby seemed excited to be playing with Clapton. You look at Clapton his face has the look of I’m only doing this as a favor to Jools. Bobby has a great memory. Ask Clapton about that time period his memories are all over the place.
Just watched Bobby's video and was thinking of doing a follow-up on my channel, when I noticed your entry here. Its a travesty that Bobby wasn't included on the ground floor of this ATMP re-issue and now the thing already has a tarnish on it in my view. I think you've nailed it with your rationale for why Bobby's videos have been taken down. In my opinion, they should delay the issue of this anniversary set long enough to get the facts right, rather than knowingly issue something they know isn't right.
Thank you all for your heart warming comments, we appreciate them all. And to John Heaton for his support.
I hope you get a check in the mail
Love bobby and Coco's videos. Hurt for them. Bobby is the most loving and respectful people on tube. Never says a bad word about anyone. He tells a story of someone who killed his dog and he does not mention their name. And bobby sings, plays, wrights, and tells the greatest stories like no one else. Peace and love
There are rumors that Clapton and Bobby had? A pretty riff between them. Rumor is Clapton bought all the rights from Bobby from the Layla album. I’m pretty sure Clapton had his hand in it in the background. Clapton became a superstar. George already was. Bobby, he is just a musician in there eyes. I’ve watched some of Bobby’s accounts from the Derrick and the Dominoes and all things must pass sessions. In both his TH-cam channel and from previous interviews. The stories are different. So they may have felt Bobby is unreliable. I saw one interview where Bobby states that the group was invited to go see the Almond brothers . After the show Eric asked them to come back and Jam. Bobby states in another interview they were done with recording that day and decided to see the Almond brothers. Then Duane became a hired musician.
@@ericfaley9019 The two stories are the same. They were invited to go see the Allman brothers after they were done recording for the day, so decided to go. There is no conflict in these stories.
Amazing video! The continued mistreatment of Bobby is so disheartening and upsetting. Over the past year, watching his videos has given me so much joy. I agree that they should reprint the sleeve notes and save the reputations. The fans, Bobby Whitlock, let alone music history, deserve the truthful recollection of this amazing music. Love all your videos, keep them coming.
Besides being a top-flight musician, Bobby is one outstanding person on every level. His videos, whereby he shares his memories of participating in some of the most iconic rock songs every written, are incredible pieces of information that are of great value to history.
here here. well said
Thank you! Bobby seems like a real nice guy! The kind of guy you wouldn't mind hanging with, and George seen that.
I could sit down and listen to Bobby tell stories of days gone by! How they recorded songs, who played what...amazing! God Bless him and his wife Coco ✝⛪🤎
Never heard of him
@@julieverdusco5402 never too late to learn.
@@julieverdusco5402 look at the All Things Must Pass album - Bobby Whitlock plays on almost all of the songs. Here is just one of many videos where Bobby Whitlock talks about George Harrison and ATMP:
th-cam.com/video/IlZjJDM8Do0/w-d-xo.html
Well put. Bobby Whitlock's contribution to ATMP and Layla has been sadly under appreciated. His channel is a goldmine of great memories.
After Bobby's videos were pulled I decided not to purchase any of the CDs no matter how good the remixes and outtakes may be. I was going to get the 5 CD set after seeing Bobby's enthusiasm for the music but when his videos were pulled, I pulled my support for All Things Must Pass. I am not into corporate censorship, especially of a man (Bobby Whitlock) who is deeply humble, truthful, and happy to share his honesty. The Harrison Estate has done a terrible thing to him no matter the motive. It seems like they just want to make money without a care for how it's done. Really truly, I will say shame on them. Thanks John for posting a video emphasizing some facts from Bobby's pulled videos and supporting Bobby Whitlock in other ways!!!! Much appreciated!!!!!
Thank you for sharing Bobby Whitlock is a musical legend I hope this gets sensibly resolved.
I applaud 👏 you John for standing up for accuracy & the simple truth ,,, Bobby Whitlock deserves his due recognition & so does ATMP . It is now a historical point in Western Music and as such is owed all the truth it can be given . This new release the 50th Anniversary needs to be put right and be as accurate as can be , there is no honourable alternative. Thank you again for being a shining light on all this,, 🥂Cheers
Yes it is strange how Bobby Whitlock seems to be overlooked in the re-writing of music histories, his soulful Hammond and vocals contributed such a lot to the classic recordings!
Agree.
He was in the thick of it.🎸👍🥃
Not to mention his song-writing!!!
Just the sort of behaviour from Georges estate that George himself would have absolutely loathed. He hated the shenanigans played by "the bass player's" copyright lawyers... this sort of thing exactly. The estate no longer acknowledges the wishes or ethic of the man. It's all about Benjamin Dollars now... not about George Harrison at all...
Exactly my first thought watching this
(That this is the kind of behavior George would have loathed.. "Dude, you're being very un-George"..)
@@lilmoe4364 John Heaton is right, saying that he doesn't know how much longer Dhani and Olivia can hide behind "It's not us, y'see...it's THEM!!"
G'wan!!
They handed control over to some faceless corporate entity. Sad
Bobby was there and what he said in His videos was great. George would certainly be ashamed at any negative treatment of Bobby Whitlock!
The new vinyl edition is £199 - "All Things Must Pass" and on this occasion, so shall I.
Saw the Walmart big box set for all of George Harrison's albums for $250, now there is one album with lots additional from those sessions as comparison perhaps
Good one😂
So shall many of us.
RRP for the basic 3LP edition is £69.99 in the UK.
Well put
Thanks for the video. What a joke, I can’t believe George would have been ok with this!
Bobby is living history, and can give you details that few, if any others, can at this point. It's disheartening to see the Harrison machine treating him this way. I'm a huge Harrison/Beatles fan, but it's business moguls side of things that besmirch the entire legacy. But in the meantime, Bobby and CoCo are doing a fabulous job of getting his own legacy recorded and available. Great job, as per usual, John. Thank you for drawing attention to this injustice perpetrated against Bobby.
Luckily I saw his videos before they were taken down. I didn't see any reason they should have been removed. All he was doing was stating facts about the sessions. And as he says, he was at every single session so he should know. Like you mention, maybe the Harrison estate doesn't want to look bad for not having contacted him earlier for interviews about the album. Just seems odd to me.
There was not ONE good reason for taking down those videos other than to HIDE the embarrassment of what they failed to do - to tell accurate story and to treat Bobby Whitlock, one of the core musicians on that album, with respect. Shame on all of them. George must be turning over in his grave…
@@tmo7734 I get your point. It's clearly made with the Harrison estate left a bit red-faced. For more historical accuracy, George was cremated and his ashes spread in the Ganges. No 'grave'.
@@bartoncross-tierney8941 Thanks for the clarification. While I’m not sure, I suspect it’s almost impossible for someone to turn over in their ashes. Best wishes. Take care…
Jim Gordon has been in my life for over 20 years. He remembers everything. The music world is about to find out. Olivia is all about money! George was about the music. ❤️. Bobby is a nice guy from my home state! Amazing musician!
@@tmo7734 Unless you drop the urn down the stairs....
I’m really missing Bobby and Coco a lot. Hey guys, please let us know how you’re doing. This world needs your voices. Best wishes and prayers for everyone involved. May peace prevail.
Great production thank you for speaking the truth about Bobby Whitlock he's a great musician a real talent.
I watched Bobby and Coco as they warmly remembered ATMP stories. Bobby had the record set that George had originally sent him in his hands. Got me wishing I could splurge on the re-issue, never owned it in any form.
Bobby brings so much heart---in his singing, his playing, his conversation. I'd guess that his contribution to this work was gigantic.
John, wonderful job laying this out. Let's hope they do make corrections and hang the cost. Take a sad song and make it better---for Bobby and any others who should be shown a little appreciation.
Thank you so much for posting this. I watched both Bobby and Cocos videos on this and did find it strange that they had spoken to the Harrison estate and then on the later video, one of them had been taken down. I don't know who is supposed to have a say over credits but if it's down to Danni and Olivia then they should be grown up about it and rectify it. If it's down to the label, which is likely, then it has to change and the Bobby and anyone else who hasn't been properly credited needs to be. I won't be surprised if the latter is true and it doesn't get sorted. Another case of musicians getting short-changed as usual.
Thank you for making this video John. Bobby has only reminisced about the experience and expressed gratitude for being involved. This is making the Harrison Estate look bad to me. I’d expect them to be gracious and apologetic for not acknowledging Bobby’s contributions.
Well said John for your support for Bobby.👍🇬🇧👍
This is another example of Apple’s and the Individual solo Beatles estate’s separation from their fan base and their confusion and cluelessness over what fans expect, want, and approve of. Another missed opportunity indeed.
As the saying goes, they know the price of everything but the value of nothing.
well said…i’m pretty fed up Matt
Nice to see you here, Matt! Love your videos and looking forward to the next one! You and John are my favourite TH-cam personalities discussing the Beatles and 60’s music!
@@charleswilmot7612 Thank you, Charles!
I understand that the 50th anniversary of All Things Must Pass is something worth commemorating, but there does seem to be more of a concern from the Harrison estate about money-making, rather than overseeing and sharing, in the best way possible, the artistic integrity of George's legacy.
Big shout out to you, BTW, Matt. Your TH-cam films, especially on the Fabs, are wonderfully reasoned, informed and articulate. As for you, John, your delivery on every vid you post is sublime...
I’ve seen Bobby and Coco’s TH-cam channel and he never said one unkind word about George or the sessions. Other than to explain that certain artists claims about their contribution to the album was incorrect. Very stupid for this organization to strong arm one of the artist that was actually there and played on almost every track and acknowledges the ones he wasn’t playing on. Bobby is one of the few players left who can remember the sessions.
....FREE BOBBY !!!!
Especially, since guys like Clapton and Ringo, were a tad unreliable on remembering, due to their intake of 'substances', at the time. I had a good laugh, at that one.
Right on, and Bobby never takes any undue credit. He's honest as can be and a gentle soul, like George.
@@waynej2608 Don't forget-Bobby W was consuming his fair share of the same....
Bobby posted a video decrying what a bad mix the latest release is and it was taken down in a matter of days. www.noise11.com/news/bobby-whitlock-tears-shreds-off-george-harrisons-50th-all-things-must-pass-20210810
Thank you so much for this video. I’m a little embarrassed to tell you that it was the Utube algorithm that brought you to my attention. As much as the algorithm irritates me with the out there suggestions, sometimes they bring me true gems. Both you and Bobby Whitlock now have another subscriber. Keep fighting the good fight.
That Bobby has been
publicly telling the stories
like a Village Elder,
complete with breaking into divine laughter and song,
very publicly online
for the past year or so
without Apple
or ANYONE in Beatles Inc
paying serious attention is somehow…
very cool…
VERY George…
One has to wonder if Dhani and/or Olivia knows anything about this? Karma is not just a word, and ignorance of what happens on your behalf is no excuse. Hopefully, someone can remedy this situation. If not, then I have held too high an estimate of their true spirituality. What would George think of this? What would Love do in this situation? Hmmmm.
Karma has nothing to do w/ this, Bobby W has already stated that G Harrison was meticulous about royalties and thru Bobby W's tumultuous life (post Harrison) he had always received royalty chks from GH that seemed to always pay bills like lighting or electrics....
@@thebostonbrawler1 Thanks for the clarification. I stand corrected. Cheers.
YES,,,,KARMA,,COMES BACK---THEY OFFENDED WHITLOCK NOT A FAIR MENTALITY
@@thebostonbrawler1
Testament to Harrison’s character.
Good to hear it.😊🎸🥃👍
I concur
excellent observations, persuasively and modestly articulated.
his elderly sister in her late 80s had her monthly payments , a gift from george, stopped by his wife and son a year after his death
I remember reading about that. Can't Imagine why they'd cut his sister off.
selfish greed
What a dreadful thing to even consider, never mind actually going through with it. Despicable.
Olivia and Dhani are a little fishy to me...
And after all the personal promotional work she did for the Beatles in America where she lived before anyone had even heard of the Beatles in America. I believe she received $500 dollars a month which is peanuts till George died then nothing.
I listened to All Things Must Pass on Spotify and a small blue tooth speaker and it sounded fine . But I haven’t heard it through a good stereo system on cd or vinyl and apparently that is where the problem lies. It seems from what I’m hearing the remastering of the album wasn’t very well done. The way Phil Spector recorded the album with all that heavy reverb I wouldn’t think it would be possible to totally strip away Spector’s production without stripping away some of the instrumentation. I would like to hear the vinyl version to compare it to the original version but I don’t think I want to spend the big bucks. I don’t appreciate the way Bobby Whitlock is being treated , by pulling down his videos describing the way the album developed , who played on different songs and his opinion of it fans are losing a piece of rock history. It’s really a shame .
Bobby should get his credit.
He’s a great artist in his own right.
Dhani and Olivia need to step up.
Thanks John for that nice wrap up on Bobby Whitlock and his major musical contribution to ATMP and historical knowledge of those sessions. I too am a fan of BW's TH-cam channel and have learned a great deal from him on those classic rock years. I hope like everyone else that Olivia and Dhani make things right with BW before the albums release. Thanks as always for your insight. William, Parker CO
Yes, Olivia and Dhani should step up - if they can. Remember some years back, George was criticized (as were Olivia and Dhani) for not helping George's sister, Louise, when she was in financial straits? In reality, George DID help Louise, but tax laws in the U.S. set a limit on the amount a person can give to a family member (than a spouse or children), before it's considered a gift and subject to taxation. Giving a larger amount of money to Louise would have resulted in a tax on her, which George wouldn't be allowed to pay on her behalf.
@@markprovance8995
Right.
@@markprovance8995 actually George's sister declared that she was cut-off from the pension after George's death and that she was not informed about George illness until a couple of days before George's death.
Poor Bobby got the shaft! Thanks for this and greetings from Illinois!
I too will not be buying any of the new "product"..... not only because it's insultingly overpriced, but also because of the treatment of Bobby Whitlock.
Here's a hint lawyers...and Olivia & Dhani: Thousands of us already saw Bobby's videos, the word is out. You can't bury it. YOU have the chance here and now to make things right - not to cover anything up.
You're not missing much, the remixes are no good.
@@keriford54 From what I've heard I agree... unfortunately. Sounds like someone mixed it in their bedroom on cheap insufficient monitors and didn't know how to properly EQ anything anyway. Embarassing.
Bobby's a pain in the ass too a lot of these people because, 50 years later, he's still alive and trying to set the record straight.
I still like Gary Wright's Dream Weaver even if he's trying to take undue credit
His TH-cam videos are complete pointless drivel, imo
Set the record straight 😆😅🤣
@@randalclarke5487 jealousy... hahaha
@@allthingsfrench1391 jealous of what??? He talks weird, sue me
you are 1000% correct in my opinion as well. I as a kid and thru the years bought every Beatle album and every George Harrison album at fair prices 150.00 is absurd. just rediculis. the estate has well over 300 million dollars. so what is their problem.. Greed???? I'll say it shame on whoever is behind thisd madness. and as said bobby Whitlock is the most humble and honest and good natured plus great musician out there and for them to ask him to take down the video is wrong. what the heck, and that is being polite. I don't think George would ever have done that or charged 150.00 for a reissue no matter what...
" living in the material world"..💰🛒
The bottom line is we got the music all ready in our hearts, no one can charge us a cent, George gave us a message in all his music , Beware of the darkness and isn't it a pity,
It's interesting to see how often it happens that the estate (that hasn't done any contribution to the artist's work as such, whatsoever) of a deceased artist take it upon themselves to "guard" the artist's legacy, with so much, unduly zeal...
Estate?
Your are the first to touch upon what I have been thinking about...
It's all about LIABILITY! Bobby Whitlock is in a similar situation as say Mick Taylor & the STONES. Whitlock & Taylor are obvious heavy contributors to some obviously great works that are now "property" of "Rock n' Roll Corporations. They both were compensated very little for their work. Any actions of these Corps giving these workhorses any creedence of importance or authority would activate the power of so many LAWYERS adept at this sort of "lawsuit thing". A sad & familiar consequence and fallout of a meteoric era in the art of R n' Roll!
@@thebostonbrawler1 I love Keith Richards rhythm guitar playing that is his strength lead guitar is not. I think anyone who collaborates deserves songwriting credit. Mick Taylor’s time with the Stones was their greatest musical period. With Ron Wood they’re unfortunately more like a really great cover band. They lost their creativity many decades ago. It’s obvious when they keep pumping out live albums and few noteworthy studio albums .
@@danielcombs3207 Truer words were never written.
@@docbearmb Its unfortunate , because I loved Ronnie’s playing with the Faces . He does what is needed no more no less. Mick Taylor can still play scorching lead guitar. If he could write great original songs and sang better he would have been a bigger star. He didn’t go in for theatrics like Hendrix but what a great guitarist he is and he made every band better. The Stones were lucky to get him when they did he made them the greatest rock and roll band in the world during his tenure with them. God bless Charlie Watts may he Rest In Peace. He was a master drummer.
Sadly, we’re slowly losing the direct links to some of the most important times in rock and pop - the 60s and early 70s. The people who were actually there can tell the whole story, straight from the horse’s mouth. Once they’re gone it’s all conjecture and hearsay. No opportunity should be lost to hear them tell their story. And record it.
Dhani should’ve brought all of the remaining living artists who played on All Things Must Pass and have their input on the remixing or remastering of all things must pass. Truly dreadful remix
Without Bobby it would have been the same as asking for a beer and given a sparkling water
The biggest problem with the music industry is the people who are in it.
If not for Bobby Whitlock's YT channel, I'd have known nothing of his contributions to D&B, D&D, & ATMP.
His obscurity to this 55 yr old is more a sad statement on record labels fame than on my own ignorance.
I am now a HUGE Whitlock fan!
Isn't it a pity
Isn't it a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain.
.
Bobby's a good man, doesn't deserve to be hurt by Olivia and Dhani.
Just got the 50th of All things…
Enjoying it very much.😊👍🎸
@@BillMcGirr
Will you be buying the 60th and 70th anniversary editions ? George will be reincarnated on the 100th anniversary edition. He will promote it himself.
I had also seen the videos before they removed. them. The only thing I could surmise, as the reason for the "estate" having them taken down, was that Bobby's factual recollection differed from what they had already finalized, packaged, and released for sale to those with too much money to blow on such things. They screwed up on the facts and it's easier these days to silence the truth rather than admit error and remedy their mistakes. Bobby and CoCo are good folks above this sort of crap. Wish I'd have stayed in Texas instead of moving back to California in the hopes of meeting them. Appreciate that you addressed this John!
They give the impression they are still in Texas, but have moved a few hours west of Austin.
well said
@@larryn2682 A few hours west of Austin can still land in Texas.
"They screwed up on the facts and it's easier these days to silence the truth rather than admit error and remedy their mistakes"
And can you imagine a sentiment more antithetical to the good-guy image that attached itself (mostly deservedly) to George Harrison?
There was an awesome video John. Very direct, and very much needed. Poor Bobby is getting the short end of the stick. Thanks for calling Olivia and Dhani out on this one. They really need to make this right… Sooner rather than later.
Well the duo shafted George’s sister so nothing new here
As someone who loves the memories and stories that Bobby shares ,not only on George Harrison but also Eric Clapton,I wonder,because he also was not interviewed in the Martin Scorsese documentary "Living In The Material World",maybe it's the accent?,not refined enough for them perhaps?,it's a shame because he was there for HISTORY, and he adds so much with his recollections.
We're living in the material world
Thanks John - a knowledgeable and heartfelt comment on this lamentable turn of events.
I came here from Andrew Dixon's live stream and I am delighted at:
A) Your spirited defence of Bobby Whitlock and
B) The absence of floods of intrusive mid-roll ads you used to have and which drove me away from your channel some time ago.
I love Bobby Whitlock's TH-cam Channel. Wow interesting stuff
. I can never get enough of All Things Must Pass so thanks!
I wish there ws a new albun coming from Bobby Whitlock of just his incredible jams and recollections. His channnel is so much fun and he's the best of people. That might be more appealing than a remix that did not involve George. The original version was perfection, why are they fooling with it?
People have been asking for "de-Spectorized" remix for decades. Can't please everyone, I guess.
The Spector mix Is the charm of the album. What other record sounds like it? It didn't exactly hinder the record sales either!
@@candelise I totally agree. Charm is a great description of the whole mix.
Bingo. You have spoken truth.
I love Bobby and Coco's channel. Great storytelling from a guy who was THERE for so much amazing music.
Thank you John for another thoughtful, well researched video on a subject of great interest to George fans. For whatever it's worth, I agree with you...the wooden box, plastic figurines, wooden bookmark, Hari Krishna beads and book and colored vinyl have nothing to do with George's legacy or skill as a musician and singer. The most I'd be willing to buy is the remastered album and all of the unreleased material and accompanying book. I have no interest in the toys included in the "Uber" edition...
Apparently, the great parody "All you need is cash" is now an official Beatles anthem.
I agree with all said in this video. I've been enjoying Bobby and Coco's TH-cam channel, learning many details I'd never heard before. They missed the boat, not having Bobby contribute to the printed material. I suspect that Dhani and Olivia never met Bobby and of course they weren't around at the time of the sessions, so my guess is they just don't know the key role of Bobby in the core band on the album. George isn't here to say, 'Hey, let's get Bobby involved, he remembers how it went down.' So, yes, it's a shame and isn't it a pity. I preordered the $25 CD version. I already have a nice vinyl box set of the Phil Spector version. Sadly, the prices of reissues for anniversary sets are sky high throughout the industry.
"Sue you, Sue Me Blues,," Gosh lawyers are a handy bunch, eh? Always got their hand out,,,,
As a comment on Bobby and Coco's page said, "They behaved very un-George like."
ha
Sounds like arrogance and greed to me screw the harrison estate
Please don’t forget to mention Leon Russell being part of this group.
Fritz Cat Yes, I forgot myself...Good Catch!
@@1060michaelg never really understood what the big deal was about that dude
Leon Russell had nothing to do with ATMP
@@allthingsfrench1391 Leon was involved with the Concert for Bangladesh but not All Things Must Pass. See it isn't difficult to type that out.
I think Peter Frampton played on some of the songs but, I dont know if they used the tracks he was on?
I loved the Bobby and Coco Videos!
How I wish I had watched the Bobby Whitlock videos when I had the chance, yet thank you John for acknowledging some of the musicians on the All Things Must Pass Album, and also sharing some of Bobby's memories. What a shame that he was not consulted for this reissue!
It has to do with money. Bobby mentioned in the video's who played on what track. Session musicians usually show up, record their part, get paid and that's the end of the story for them. With this re-release of this album, they like to keep it that way.
thank you so much for this....❤️
There's a rather strange distrustful stance that seems to come out of the Harrison Estate. They seem to have this attitude that people are out to exploit them at every turn. This doesn't seem to exist with Paul's camp which only accentuates the Harrison's stance. You only have to listen to Mark Lewisohn's interviews to gain a sense of that. It's all rather weird. Bobby whitlock has nothing but admiration and enthusiasm for George and you get a a sense that it has hurt/disappointed him at being shut out.
That attitude has been around since Revolver was recorded.
"There's people standing 'round who'll screw you in the ground, they'll fill you in with all their sins. You'll see."
Hey - What Lewinson interviews could I check out to get this sense, i'm not doubting you but i'm curious myself!
@@fshoaps I don't know the specific ones but I have heard them. Took me a while to find. George accused him of being a bootlegger during the anthology but with zero proof. He wanted him off the series as he was a researcher. Paul convinced george to keep him on. Paul didn't believe it and worked with Mark after the series so that tells me something. Like someone said in another comment, once you were in the Harrison's black book you were out. Completely out. Don't think it took much.
@@michaelmccormick6401 I'm of the opinion that George did the Anthology grudgingly. He needed the $ after Denis O'Brien ripped him off. While I loved the series and the book and the three albums, I still wonder why Paul and Ringo and Yoko (not to mention Clapton, Dylan, Petty, and Jeff Lynne) simply didn't give him what he needed to keep living at Friar Park. Not even as a loan...just as a gift to a friend.
@@michaelmccormick6401 @Finn Shoaps Here are the details regarding the falling out between Lewisohn and Harrison. Mark Lewisohn as most Beatles fans are aware of gained access to the EMI tape library for his book "The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions" in 1988. Several years later there was an author by the name of Mark Hertsgaard who was mates with Lewisohn and asked his friend for assistance in accessing the EMI tape library for a book he was writing on The Beatles entitled "A Day In The Life". Lewisohn agreed to do this and believed he had gone through all of the proper channels in helping his friend gain access to the tape library and it was through this access that Hertsgaard was able to write his fantastic book which was published in 1995. However somewhere along the line, misinformation was relayed back to respective camps of George Harrison and Yoko Ono who were informed that Lewisohn was granting unauthorized access unilaterally to The Beatles' tape archive. Upon learning this both Harrison and Ono were very angry and it resulted in some unfortunate repercussions for Lewisohn. To begin with Lewisohn was originally slated to be the curator of the "Lennon: Anthology" project and had already devised a track listing for it. Ono immediately replaced him with Rob Stevens who went on to work with Ono on that project. Harrison also had Lewisohn's role reduced in terms of The Beatles Anthology and while McCartney prevented Lewisohn from being fired, his involvement in the project was significantly reduced. Remember all of this happened in spite of the fact that Lewisohn had gone through the proper channels and obtained permission from EMI to grant his mate access to their tape library.
50 years on yet certain egos still get in the way..... Bobby said & done absolutely nothing wrong here but do you know what i believe the guy probably wishes he did now!!! Disgraceful behaviour from the Harrison estate which makes the £850 price-tag for the special box set plus the lesser releases still badly overpriced grate even more now!!!
Thanks as always John, very informative.
I am so glad that you posted your excellent critique. I hope Dhani and Olivia see it. I wonder what George must be thinking of this. I appreciate you John. Thank you for this and for all your work.
Record companies seem to lack the basic understanding that review/reaction videos are literally free promotion and advertising for their products. Any coverage of the music results in increased exposure to both old and new audiences, giving the music commercial and cultural longevity. I think I suspect this is more of a label/rights issue than actual interference from Olivia or Dhani--record companies are notorious for their non-negotiability/inflexible thinking and I feel like I've heard several artists discuss their personal views that they love the ongoing covers/adaptations/reactions but even when they verbally approve things, the companies get the final say and they categorically defer to 'cease and desist' tactics.
It's a great way to make your music irrelevant and render your art 'forgotten.'
I agree. Olivia and Dhani seem like genuinely good people. This smacks of typical record company stuff. Olivia and Dhani should overrule all these lawyers and executives. I'm pretty sure George would've.
@@jamess7626 I think George would've enjoyed seeing tributes/covers in different styles from different voices too :)
People have software to make mp3s of the TH-cam videos. It’s simple and only takes a minute.
Artists have a right to get paid for their work.
Maybe you haven’t noticed over the last 26 years, but the music business has lost many millions from illegal downloads.
@@jamess7626 I work in the music business, and these people do not control the record company.
I don’t use TH-cam under my real name for a variety of reasons.
I work in the music business, and that claim in this video is idiotic and false.
They haul Olivia and Dhani out when they need extra publicity.
The record label has final and creative control, it’s in the record contract.
@@LisaRichards_123 ok, that doesn't change that the company is an ass.
Thank you for this. Really. You have nothing to gain except to do the right thing. Respect to you, sir.
Wow, glad I got to see this video before it disappeared
Grate take on this issue,also Bobby was left out of the concert for George also. So sad.
Bummer to learn this,especially as it's now old news. Thanks for the d lo,hope it worked out nicely. Something is really wrong with your soul if you can't get along with Bobby or CoCo...
"Catering to the Michael Palins of the world"...now that's what I call a pricing pain point!
Great, a cowboy got your six Bobby ! Strong respect Mr. Heaton. Ain't hiding in some castle, a dark room sweating saying oh nooooooo.Heh Heh Heh. Aw.
The Friar Park Fan Club appreciates Bobby's magnificent memories of working on ATMP. It would be nice if others can enjoy them in the future. #LetBobbySpeak #WhitlockEffect.
Bobby has EVERY right to record his oral histories. They didn’t ask him to contribute to reflections. Fine. Bobby was okay with that. But his whole channel is a marvelous look at the music industry and he has every legitimacy to share his stories, which are very well done by the way. I’ve watched these videos and for the life of me cannot figure out what the objection is, OTHER than for marketing purposes. The record company wanted to control Google Search results and wanted their new release to pop up and not Bobby Whitlock comments. But I agree with John here. Everything Bobby shared does nothing but celebrate the album, the mystique and genius of the album. It looks like it was an ask and he complied. But I am very disappointed in whoever in the Harrison estate had a hand in this. I adore George and always will. I want to feel good about his estate too.
Very true. Everything Bobby has said rings true, and he doesnt put a price tag on it. He's just a living catalogue of everything music from the Stax days on through the Delaney, Dominoes, and ATMP years.
I agree
"It's all too much." Thank you for the perspective...and I agree whole heartedly with your assessment. and FYI, my comment on Bobby's channel about your video....got Taken Down. Strange days indeed...
Thank you Bobby and Coco. So much valuable information!
I guess it cost a lot more money than we think living in the material world of the cracker box palace. I’m sure George would agree with you.
Olivia and Dhani: the George Harrison Estate. Up until now I have respected their preservation of George's legacy. Olivia is from a humble background and Dhani is the most amiable guy. The Living in the Material World was the ultimate doc. I remember the day after George died the BBC were due to broadcast a tribute to him on TV but it was pulled last minute. Understandable at the time and probably a good thing in hindsight. But now they are just taking the biscuit. Too much control and pooing on us fans.
They did do the Concert for George and the Documentary, and they have continually released George's work (regardless of how costly), so not all bad.
Yani and his mother didn't contribute one single iota to any of George's projects - these are people who are completely out of touch with you, me and 99% of the rest of the world- one word surmises everything those inconsiderate elitists are about: greed
I lost a bit of respect for them a few years ago when I read that they had cut off his sister Louise... she was getting a couple thousand dollars a month and then that ended after George died...
If that is true that speaks volumes.
Olivia, and this is from someone I know who runs into and is around her regularly, is maybe not the same as the image projected/packaged. The words "she's very LA money ish,condescending"... Dhani I don't know about.
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Great video and thoughts John. I was unaware of much if this. If true, I'll say it...shame on the Harrison estate!!! Cheers Matt
Just goes to show that they are Living in the Material World
namron anilab Well said, that. True as well, it seems.
Perfect.
Agree. And, it seems some may be, 'brainwashed', too.
My first thought, when I saw the price points, was that Friar Park is expensive upkeep. Probably some truth to that. The place is enormous.
Fantastic!!! This is incredible!!! You just backed the right horse...
Great comment and praise for Bobby Whitlock
Thanks for putting this information about the 'cover-up'' out there. Bobby Whitlock is just giving his knowledge of his experience during these sessions which contradicts the George Harrison's estates view. I too will not be interested in these new mixes unless they give Bobby his due.
Think you've prompted the Estate into a rethink possibly with your video John. This has been entered onto the Official George Harrison twitter account.
'George had been inspired by @bobdylan ’s Nashville sound & flew Pete Drake in for the All Things Must Pass sessions at the suggestion of Bobby Whitlock.'
- Interesting, hopefully the videos will be back on too.
Bobby Whitlock was much younger than everyone else. That's why his memory is so much sharper.
poor form. i would have thought this kind of thing beneath Olivia & Dhany, but anything is possible.
I watched Bobby's video on ATMP and it was all positive and heart warming! Good video here John Heaton.
That's it! I was going to BUY the LPs and CDs but now I think I will download it for free from some MP3 website. George's Estate don't need the money. I do. Hare Krishna.
And... Hare Rama
@@JamZorro Jaya Govinda !
@@JamZorro Ramen Noodles.
Thank you so much. Two seminal albums never to be equaled. We, who played them repeatedly, know he was there.!!!!!!! Linda81
They've got to make this right. Money should be no object. This is history. Even if delays the release. Make it up to the fans for a change. Great review John!
It's all about LIABILITY! Bobby Whitlock is in a similar situation as say Mick Taylor & the STONES. Whitlock & Taylor are obvious heavy contributors to some obviously great works that are now "property" of "Rock n' Roll Corporations. They both were compensated very little for their work. Any actions of these Corps giving these workhorses any creedence of importance or authority would activate the power of so many LAWYERS adept at this sort of "lawsuit thing". A sad & familiar consequence and fallout of a meteoric era in the art of R n' Roll!
I met George in 1977. Please don't mistake "the Estate" for George.
But George directed and controlled his estate/ assets.
Thank you John for your insight !!!!!
I think it was wrong to ask Bobby to take down his posts and I would guess it was lawyers requesting such. Bobby was doing nothing but commenting honestly to enlighten the session participation since he was one of the main musicians who was there and contributed and witnessed the recording of ATMP. I would say the Harrison Estate probably could remedy this by issuing an addendum or booklet of session comments that could be gathered rather quickly. It may not make the pressing and release that is to occur in August 2021 but it would definitely head off this backlash. The Estate's actions were entirely unnecessary and unwarranted. Leave Bobby alone. Better yet...get his input as well as all other living musicians' comments for all who participated. I loved Bobby's stories and his and others commentary would really add to this momentous release. John Heaton is dead on.
Bobby and Coco weren’t asked to take down their videos, they were “told” to take them down. Big difference.
What did Whitlock say that was so wrong for the Harrison estate??
@@robertgosselin14 Bobby and Coco say they did not delete the posts, and they will be re posted sometime after the new ATMP 50th album has been released.
Apparently their video comments were merely "bad timing" or some such(?) as they were made to understand the reason to take them down.
Great video John - totally agree with the sentiments you express. ATMP is arguably George’s definitive statement and absolutely worthy of being treated to the same format as the recent Plastic Ono Band and Imagine boxes for example. While not cheap, those two feel like labours of love, offer fascinating new listening experiences and insights and are simply fantastic to get lost in - in my view great value. The ATMP 50th Anniversary by contrast is shaping up to feel like one big missed opportunity with more than a whiff of ‘what can we get away with’ rip-off…
In a studio hub in Shoreditch, London, I am the caretaker, gardener. In one of the studios is the graphic design company that has done all the McCartney re issues. They have achieved some serious awards for their work as well. Over the years I think it has been a major part of their work which shows the amount of effort if takes to get these re issues right. I wholeheartedly agree that re badged versions should not be ripping people of, but there is quite a bit of income
dished out to people along the line. As the studios in the hub pay service charges, this is how I get my living. So in some small way I get revenue from Paul McCartney(my hero) how good is that!
Interesting Patrick thanks! Here’s coping we get London Town & Back To The Egg archive soon! Funnily enough I am over from Hungary and have just been in Shoreditch record shopping today (Rough Trade, Flashback) - I like the atmosphere around Brick Lane…big contrast from the City!
It is possible the Harrisons are out of touch.
It’s not the estate. It’s the people at the label.
Selling Beatles recordings and the solo albums the the bread and butter of EMI’s catalogue sales.
No one in the business contacts the players like that.
They didn’t release anniversary editions to be sentimental, they do it to make money.
I’ve been reading and hearing on Sirius XM Dahnin Harrison is doing the 50th anniversary remix. As you mentioned that Bobby was a key musician on the All Things Must Pass album why wasn’t he invited to the Concert for George? Most of the other musicians were there! Bobby played for the Jools Holland show. He did 2 numbers with Clapton. In the interviews Bobby seemed excited to be playing with Clapton. You look at Clapton his face has the look of I’m only doing this as a favor to Jools. Bobby has a great memory. Ask Clapton about that time period his memories are all over the place.
Just watched Bobby's video and was thinking of doing a follow-up on my channel, when I noticed your entry here. Its a travesty that Bobby wasn't included on the ground floor of this ATMP re-issue and now the thing already has a tarnish on it in my view. I think you've nailed it with your rationale for why Bobby's videos have been taken down. In my opinion, they should delay the issue of this anniversary set long enough to get the facts right, rather than knowingly issue something they know isn't right.
well said Paul let’s hope eh?
Amen!
Yeah that's record companies for ya.
Tje videos are back up. I watched a few yesterday that were focused on ATMP and Bobby's input.