Haha...you have neen converted to the dark side Simon! It wont stop now! Still my favourite watch. Blue on milanese, black on fkm rubber or stock rubber and full lume on any bracelet. Awesome watch that never got the attention it deserved. Cool review ;)
I have 5, they are the original black on black, the fully lumed dial, blue dial with pepsi bezel, black dial with coke bezel and finally the one you are reviewing. All with the Myota 8204 movement which is both hacking and hand winding. I love them. Amazing value for the money when you consider they're ISO 6425 certified. They are far more accurate than my SKX's. I can highly recommend them.
Simon, awesome watch! I have the blue Promaster Eco-Drive version of this (BN0151) and I love it. By the way, Marc at Long Island Watch sells a fitted solid end link bracelet that fits the NY0040 case (product code BRAC-71). I believe he just released it. I bought Marc’s fitted jubilee bracelet for my BN0151, and it fits perfectly and is super comfortable. Great review as always. Thanks, Simon!
Nice one Simon my man!! I actually got the titanium Pro Master some time ago, but I'm sorry I didn't get the stainless steel one as despite the hard coat on it, it got scratched to bits while diving unfortunately. You made the right choice with steel. Excellent review as always.
@@WatchtheTime I mean a variety of factors go into play line cleaning, storage. Rather than hating Citizen he should hate Citizen USA thank god for EU consumer protections.
Just bought it a few weeks ago and i was amaised also to get the one with the implements (lume and movement) the older models didn't hack and had a poorer lume. Great watch and the price on those is more than fair.
Simon, the full lume dial was discontinued back in 2018/19 and the prices went a bit mad. I sold mine for £300 but always regretted it. They have now been reissued with that 8204 movement and crop up on Amazon quite often for £190ish but the batches sell out fast. I jumped on one a couple of weeks back and glad to have one back in my collection. Agree about the strap, I've been swapping between an Isofrane style and a Strapcode Super Engineer. Long Island watches have just released an oyster and a jubilee for these for about £60 delivered to the UK.
I saw the LIW straps recently and will definitely be adding one to my Promaster, no doubt mate. Apologies of you had any issues with comments early I’m not entirely sure what happened - thanks for watching John 👍👍
Another great review. I have found it difficult to connect with Citizen as a brand. I think it would be worthy of a challenge to try and find one. Was impressed by the lume though
I'm late to the party, but thought you did a great job on this review. I always wanted one, but was too busy buying more expensive stuff and poorer for it. Hopefully I learned a few lessons along the way and can pick one of these beauties up. Subbed from across the pond.
I've gone to and from other divers, but I always go back to this one. The blue dial is a chameleon - it's blue sometimes and black sometimes. Mine runs -1 and did so right out of the box. As far as straps, I wear mine on a black Uncle Straps GL831. I also swapped the Uncle buckle with the original Citizen buckle off of the blue strap. This is the ultimate dive watch!
I agree and it’s one that I’m very happy to have in my collection. I’ve since added an Islander bracelet to the watch and I must say, it definitely completes the look 👍👍
Great review and glad you like the watch. I have the black, blue and full lume and my wife has the blue and full lume. we have all of them on the Borealis Vulcanized Rubber Strap 20mm and it works great and is very comfortable.
Great review my friend I've always been a bit of a closet fan of Citizen and also a huge fan of Heimdallr they do some fantastic Promaster homages I own two they're spec'd out and can be had for 140$ and cheaper on the sales Anyways another fantastic review my friend Be well 👍
I have three of these. One I bought in 1997 on impulse! My first ever citizen watch! And the watch that's cost me thousands since! The second one is also black but was given to me by an Italian ex Navy guy I knew way back that was military issue to them for over 10 years ! That watch had a 500m dive rating. The third one is as yours in blue, love them and the movement is better than most and my 97 year one is still perfect and is plus 4 second a day ! The 8203 on them is non hacking the 8204 is hacking ,the only difference.
I got the LME version the one with the travel pouch but essentially the same and went on and changed that crystal with an Saphire blue anti reflexive coating & domed ...it totally improved the looks of this watch & the view improved by a longshot compared to the hazy OEM mineral glass
I have one of these that is about 4 years old. I use it from time to time because I have several watches. However, I think it's a fantastic watch and an incredible price for what it offers, don't forget that it's a Certified Diving model. The watch can be a daily beater and can last for decades without any problems or maintenance, making it the right choice for those who don't have much money. Have you seen how cheap it is if it lasts all this time?????? The caliber it uses is surprisingly good and was created in 1977 and if Citizen never changed it, it's because they trust it completely. And if it breaks down (which I doubt) it's very cheap to fix or replace it. It is no coincidence that this model was used by the Italian Navy (Marina Militare) in the worst conditions for 10 years. Citizen has always been a forgotten brand... but it's not far behind other brands... How much would a certified Swiss diving watch cost, with a mechanical mechanism created by the brand itself????? Excellent video. Big hug
You make some very good points my friend and I agree, it’s a great watch and you’d be hard pushed to find better for the price. Thanks for watch and I appreciate your kind words 👍👍
Thanks. Just ordered the full lume version. This will be my 5th Citizen. I no longer want any watches I have to change a battery on. Automatic and solar is the way to go. I have one Citizen that has to be 10, if not 15 years old and still going strong.
Nice one mate. I’m sure you’ll love it and I know what you mean about their movements, I know many people who have one that is going almost 20 years later 👍👍
3:43 It ain't running a Seiko movement. Oops..... Why not the full lume model. Much, much better for being able to read in the dark. But I must admit your blue choice is extremely handsome and one that most would purchase.
Thanks for the info and that was a small mistake on my behalf, I did however bring up the correct information relating to the Citizen Miyota movement. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Does the movement (dial included) move a tiny bit when pushing/pulling the crown? It is happening on mine and it is the second one I own. Happened on both.
It’s nothing to worry about mate, it’s just the rotor spinning which is notoriously loud on Citizen Miyota movements and completely normal. I hope that helps 👍👍
Most favourite is: Citizen Promaster Aqualand JP1010-00E Cal C500 Ø 46 MM Men's Watch Diver Watch very difficult to get and been looking ages for this watch..so if you know anybody...
I’m well aware of that mate and I clearly state it’s a Miyota movement in the details but I slipped up with saying it’s a Seiko, force of habit. Thanks anyway 👍👍
Thanks my friend. I currently have this watch on an Islander bracelet and it most definitely elevates the watch to another level. Thanks for the suggestion 👍👍
I actually have the original model which I've owned for 3 years and the lume is amazing up there with my seikos and I havent got a problem with the movement! The changes they've made takes away the authenticity in my opinion the markers are slightly shorter without that point 12 o'clock and the bezel pip on the original is more originally retro plus the depth limits printed on the strap give it that totally original old school feal' like the skx seiko never changed a thing they didn't have too the original designs are the best in watch making why change it if it ain't broke .
I’m glad you’re enjoying your one Martin, it really is an exceptional watch for the price and one that can’t really be touched. Thanks for watching mate 👍👍
I know what you mean mate and I like that about it. I’ve got an Islander bracelet on the way to fit to this and am looking forward to the upgrade - thanks for watching 👍👍
I’ll have to respectfully disagree on the water resistance as a result of opening and closing the case back mate but I appreciate your feedback on the movement, it was said by mistake and I have touched upon that in many comments. Happy new year - be well 👍👍
@przemyslawpraski8985 Opening and closing a caseback multiple times WILL stress the rubber gasket due to lateral friction, and eventually tear it, obviously compromising water resistance. It's one of the reasons people use silicone grease when reinstalling a caseback; it helps reduce friction, all while rejuvenating the rubber gasket.
Haha...you have neen converted to the dark side Simon! It wont stop now! Still my favourite watch. Blue on milanese, black on fkm rubber or stock rubber and full lume on any bracelet. Awesome watch that never got the attention it deserved. Cool review ;)
Great combos mate and most definitely an under appreciated watch from IMO an under appreciated brand. Thanks for watching my man 👍👍
Yet to find a citizen I can connect with Simon, grate review as always 👍👍
I was the same… until this one - a great watch. Thanks for watching my man 👍👍
I have 5, they are the original black on black, the fully lumed dial, blue dial with pepsi bezel, black dial with coke bezel and finally the one you are reviewing. All with the Myota 8204 movement which is both hacking and hand winding.
I love them. Amazing value for the money when you consider they're ISO 6425 certified.
They are far more accurate than my SKX's. I can highly recommend them.
Nice one mate, they do some cracking watches, no doubt 👍👍
Bonjour, j'aime beaucoup cette montre, mais j'hésite beaucoup avec la ny0141-10l
Laquelle me conseille tu.?
Merci
Simon, awesome watch! I have the blue Promaster Eco-Drive version of this (BN0151) and I love it. By the way, Marc at Long Island Watch sells a fitted solid end link bracelet that fits the NY0040 case (product code BRAC-71). I believe he just released it. I bought Marc’s fitted jubilee bracelet for my BN0151, and it fits perfectly and is super comfortable. Great review as always. Thanks, Simon!
Thanks for the info Cecil and I fully intend to buy one of their watch - top man for the heads up, much appreciated. Thanks for watching my man 👍👍
Nice one Simon my man!! I actually got the titanium Pro Master some time ago, but I'm sorry I didn't get the stainless steel one as despite the hard coat on it, it got scratched to bits while diving unfortunately. You made the right choice with steel. Excellent review as always.
I’ve heard that about the Titanium ones. Thanks for watching my man - I really appreciate all your support 👍👍
Comes with a 5 year warranty as well. Really can't beat that for the price.
I didn’t realise that, thanks for the info Steven and also thanks for watching 👍👍
@@WatchtheTimehould I Time this hates Citizen based on one watch bit like hating a beer for the one you had in one pub
Very true 😂😂
@@WatchtheTime I mean a variety of factors go into play line cleaning, storage.
Rather than hating Citizen he should hate Citizen USA thank god for EU consumer protections.
Most definitely mate 👍👍
What a great buy. That watch is well worth the price. Excellent review.
It most certainly is a great watch and definitely worth every penny mate - thanks for watching 👍👍
Just bought it a few weeks ago and i was amaised also to get the one with the implements (lume and movement) the older models didn't hack and had a poorer lume. Great watch and the price on those is more than fair.
Most definitely a great watch mate and one I’m happy to add to my collect - I hope you continue to enjoy yours 👍👍
Best bang for the buck absolute classic design
I completely agree mate - I love my Promaster and it’s definitely a keeper. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Simon, the full lume dial was discontinued back in 2018/19 and the prices went a bit mad. I sold mine for £300 but always regretted it. They have now been reissued with that 8204 movement and crop up on Amazon quite often for £190ish but the batches sell out fast. I jumped on one a couple of weeks back and glad to have one back in my collection. Agree about the strap, I've been swapping between an Isofrane style and a Strapcode Super Engineer. Long Island watches have just released an oyster and a jubilee for these for about £60 delivered to the UK.
I saw the LIW straps recently and will definitely be adding one to my Promaster, no doubt mate. Apologies of you had any issues with comments early I’m not entirely sure what happened - thanks for watching John 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime a bit strange with the comments. I was posting but they were disappearing.
I saw that and I went to comment and it just said ‘comment unavailable’, strange…
@@WatchtheTime I must be on a watch list.😂
😂😂
Another great review. I have found it difficult to connect with Citizen as a brand. I think it would be worthy of a challenge to try and find one. Was impressed by the lume though
Same here mate but I’m pleased to say this has changed all that - thanks for watching and always support my man 👍👍
This has just popped up on the H Samuel sale, and I'm tempted, like you I've eyed this for ages.
I’d definitely recommend it mate 👍👍
Great review. Couldn't agree more. Love this series. I have the black dial version and the full lume version.
I’m glad you like them my friend as they are some seriously good watches 👍👍
I'm late to the party, but thought you did a great job on this review. I always wanted one, but was too busy buying more expensive stuff and poorer for it. Hopefully I learned a few lessons along the way and can pick one of these beauties up. Subbed from across the pond.
Better late to the party than to never arrive my man and if you get one, you’ll love it, they’re great watches. Thanks for watching mate 👍👍
I just bought it today and get it tomorrow....same here was for 18 months in my basket and pulled the trigger :)
Nice one mate, you honestly won’t be disappointed as I love mine - thanks for watching 👍👍
I've gone to and from other divers, but I always go back to this one. The blue dial is a chameleon - it's blue sometimes and black sometimes. Mine runs -1 and did so right out of the box. As far as straps, I wear mine on a black Uncle Straps GL831. I also swapped the Uncle buckle with the original Citizen buckle off of the blue strap. This is the ultimate dive watch!
I agree and it’s one that I’m very happy to have in my collection. I’ve since added an Islander bracelet to the watch and I must say, it definitely completes the look 👍👍
Great review and glad you like the watch.
I have the black, blue and full lume and my wife has the blue and full lume.
we have all of them on the Borealis Vulcanized Rubber Strap 20mm and it works great and is very comfortable.
Great combo mate. I have mine on an Islander bracelet and it definitely elevates the watch. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
Great review my friend I've always been a bit of a closet fan of Citizen and also a huge fan of Heimdallr they do some fantastic Promaster homages I own two they're spec'd out and can be had for 140$ and cheaper on the sales Anyways another fantastic review my friend Be well 👍
That is good to hear Michael and I must confess, I’ve never really liked Citizen but this watch has changed everything. Thanks for watching my man 👍👍
Simon maybe check to see if Heimdallr will sell you a bracelet for your Promaster Worth a shot anyways Be well my friend 👍
Great shout that mate - thank you 👍👍
It most certainly is. 👍
Most definitely Simo 👍👍
I have three of these. One I bought in 1997 on impulse! My first ever citizen watch! And the watch that's cost me thousands since! The second one is also black but was given to me by an Italian ex Navy guy I knew way back that was military issue to them for over 10 years ! That watch had a 500m dive rating. The third one is as yours in blue, love them and the movement is better than most and my 97 year one is still perfect and is plus 4 second a day !
The 8203 on them is non hacking the 8204 is hacking ,the only difference.
Ah nice one man. Really appreciate the info and I hope you continue to enjoy your watches for many, many years to come 👍👍
Yes, it's a great watch! I don't own it, unfortunately. But on my wishlist for sure 😊
Thanks for the review, Simon 👍
If you’re ever in a position to grab one Jonathan I’d recommend it very, very highly. Thanks for watching my friend 👍👍
Citizen is an underrated brand.
I completely agree mate 👍👍
I got the LME version the one with the travel pouch but essentially the same and went on and changed that crystal with an Saphire blue anti reflexive coating & domed ...it totally improved the looks of this watch & the view improved by a longshot compared to the hazy OEM mineral glass
Nice one mate, where did you get the crystal from? Wouldn’t mind doing that myself 👍👍
I have one of these that is about 4 years old. I use it from time to time because I have several watches. However, I think it's a fantastic watch and an incredible price for what it offers, don't forget that it's a Certified Diving model. The watch can be a daily beater and can last for decades without any problems or maintenance, making it the right choice for those who don't have much money. Have you seen how cheap it is if it lasts all this time?????? The caliber it uses is surprisingly good and was created in 1977 and if Citizen never changed it, it's because they trust it completely. And if it breaks down (which I doubt) it's very cheap to fix or replace it. It is no coincidence that this model was used by the Italian Navy (Marina Militare) in the worst conditions for 10 years. Citizen has always been a forgotten brand... but it's not far behind other brands... How much would a certified Swiss diving watch cost, with a mechanical mechanism created by the brand itself????? Excellent video. Big hug
You make some very good points my friend and I agree, it’s a great watch and you’d be hard pushed to find better for the price.
Thanks for watch and I appreciate your kind words 👍👍
Thanks. Just ordered the full lume version. This will be my 5th Citizen. I no longer want any watches I have to change a battery on. Automatic and solar is the way to go. I have one Citizen that has to be 10, if not 15 years old and still going strong.
Nice one mate. I’m sure you’ll love it and I know what you mean about their movements, I know many people who have one that is going almost 20 years later 👍👍
Oh and Mark at Long Island Watch is making bespoke bracelets for this series now for info .
I saw that, thanks for the heads up and info mate 👍👍
Nice watch, wait til you try the the ti version, its lush. Sailcloth from gecko worth checking out. Black w grey stitching a good match
Nice one mate, thanks for the suggestion and also for watching - top man 👍👍
3:43 It ain't running a Seiko movement. Oops.....
Why not the full lume model. Much, much better for being able to read in the dark. But I must admit your blue choice is extremely handsome and one that most would purchase.
Thanks for the info and that was a small mistake on my behalf, I did however bring up the correct information relating to the Citizen Miyota movement. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Island Watch has a pair of very nice, fitted bracelets for these.
Thanks for the info my friend, I have since fitted the jubilee style bracelet to this watch and WOW it raises it’s presence even more 👍👍
Does the movement (dial included) move a tiny bit when pushing/pulling the crown? It is happening on mine and it is the second one I own. Happened on both.
I can’t say I noticed that happening if I’m honest mate so I would no…
How often do you need to wind it?
I would wind it for about 10-15 times and then just wear it, it’ll charge as you wear it anyway 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime deadly thanks!
Hello, difference between L and LE?
From looking previously, I don’t think there is any distinguishable difference tbh mate
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Seiko handed Citizen the affordable dive watch market when they discontinued the SKX and didn't replace it.
Most definitely. This watch is far and above their new Seiko 5 range IMO 👍👍
Hi, thanks for the video.
I am thinking of getting it but do you know if there's a difference between le 17L and the 17LE ?
Thanks !
No worries mate. My understanding is that there isn’t really any difference tbh 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime thanks in some pic they seem to be a bit different in terms if color but videos on yt show otherwise indeed !
Quick question when I shake my watch it makes a little noise and then goes away, is that normal and does yours the same?
It’s nothing to worry about mate, it’s just the rotor spinning which is notoriously loud on Citizen Miyota movements and completely normal. I hope that helps 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime Oh great thanks mate, was a bit worried although time and functions are normal...again many thanks for the quick reply.
Most favourite is: Citizen Promaster Aqualand JP1010-00E Cal C500 Ø 46 MM Men's Watch Diver Watch very difficult to get and been looking ages for this watch..so if you know anybody...
I can’t say I do mate. Best thing to do is keep looking on Google with the model number, that’s what I do 👍👍
citizen auto diver is their best model. no eco drive!!!!
I’d have to agree wholeheartedly Tommy - I really like this 👍👍
Eco Drive is a far superior movement but Citizen's auto diver models look better.
I like the eco drive movement but I can’t say I’d choose it over a 9000 series Miyota movement tbh. Thanks for watching mate 👍👍
@@WatchtheTimeJust got the blue dialled version for Christmas 23
@OscarOSullivan nice one mate - enjoy 👍👍
You say it uses a Seiko movement, it doesnt, its a miyota movement by citizen built in house. Thanks 🙏👍
I’m well aware of that mate and I clearly state it’s a Miyota movement in the details but I slipped up with saying it’s a Seiko, force of habit. Thanks anyway 👍👍
En islandwatch consigues brazalete para ese ny0040 por un costo de 59$ buen video tengo 2 ny0040 el azul y el radioactivo saludos de 🇵🇦👍
Thanks my friend. I currently have this watch on an Islander bracelet and it most definitely elevates the watch to another level. Thanks for the suggestion 👍👍
Beautiful watch... I have one...
Nice one mate. I now have mine fitted with an Islander bracelet and it really elevates the watch IMO 👍👍
Watch The Time. Is the bezel black and dial blue ?
Yes my friend 👍👍
Nice just what I'm looking for the next watch.
@richardbosh4522 👍👍
I actually have the original model which I've owned for 3 years and the lume is amazing up there with my seikos and I havent got a problem with the movement! The changes they've made takes away the authenticity in my opinion the markers are slightly shorter without that point 12 o'clock and the bezel pip on the original is more originally retro plus the depth limits printed on the strap give it that totally original old school feal' like the skx seiko never changed a thing they didn't have too the original designs are the best in watch making why change it if it ain't broke .
I’m glad you’re enjoying your one Martin, it really is an exceptional watch for the price and one that can’t really be touched. Thanks for watching mate 👍👍
Very good watch,but on your wrist its like beer cap:)I mean,it wears really small,not like 42mm
I know what you mean mate and I like that about it. I’ve got an Islander bracelet on the way to fit to this and am looking forward to the upgrade - thanks for watching 👍👍
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Most definitely 👍👍
Just bought one... 😊
Nice one mate - you’ll love it 👍👍
"Openming and closing the gasket compromises the water resistance" - absolute BS! And - this is the Miota, not Seiko movement.
I’ll have to respectfully disagree on the water resistance as a result of opening and closing the case back mate but I appreciate your feedback on the movement, it was said by mistake and I have touched upon that in many comments. Happy new year - be well 👍👍
@przemyslawpraski8985 Opening and closing a caseback multiple times WILL stress the rubber gasket due to lateral friction, and eventually tear it, obviously compromising water resistance. It's one of the reasons people use silicone grease when reinstalling a caseback; it helps reduce friction, all while rejuvenating the rubber gasket.