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- Shooting and discussing two very different, but similar, .357 Magnum revolvers.
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I carried the 4" model 19 as a duty weapon for over 10 years as a Deputy Sheriff in Ohio! And the 2.5" model 19 as my off duty weapon, which i sold so to purchase my wife ( then fiance) an engagement ring, we were married about six month and she brought it back! That was 38 yrs ago! I still them both the 19 and the wife! I am blessed
Great story to hear 😄
Ohio
@@hansuri401 Perry County
@@williamwalters581 nice
You blessed man!
In Ohio yeah!!
Bless you bro!👍
That classic .357 is a beauty. I have always loved the way the classic .357's looked.
mintu
But, what about how it feels to shoot? I'm new to this, and .357 mag from my 4" Windicator leaves me very sore with arthritis like pain. I wonder if there's something I'm doing wrong or maybe it's my specific gun.
The swedish premiärminister was killed by 357 magnum!
Anyone else would have cut that out, especially if it was their sponsor. Thank you for not doing that. With all the ammo you shoot it has to happen once in a while.
I think to be sure it's primer problem (most likely is) I'd shoot it in the classic revolver.
No bang, Hmmmmmm
I was just hoping it wasn’t a hang fire. That could have been real bad
Tyler Coleman, this is exactly why I like Hickok45. I truly believe he's one of the few honest people without a personal agenda. He always gives everything the fair an unbiased test. If he likes a certain product for no other reason other than he just prefers it, he tells us that. He doesn't makeup a lie.
What a great guy. Can you imagine having him for a neighbor?
@@jnicksnewstart Exactly, I love this. A lot of other people on here would take money or free things from manufacturers and never mention an issue if they had one. He'd make a great neighbor! I don't know about John, he might keep me up playing that guitar, haha.
You've been watching the wrong channels
I carried the Model 19 in the late 90s as a Marine Security Guard in a few US Embassies. It's a fantastic firearm.
Should've tried the dead round in the classic Smith. See if that hammer has more whack in it.
Good point. Don't know why I did not think of that. With the hammer-mounted firing pin, it might have done fine.
@@hickok45 The first light strike could have damaged the primer, meaning that nothing would have made it fire after that. It's not necessarily a bad primer. Those are ultra-rare. Nearly always the fault is with the firearm.
The protocol is: Wait 60 seconds, safely disgard/remove ammo from firing area, document the chamber of the firearm, and have the firearm inspected by a certified gunsmith. Sorry to the fool who buys that gun. Get better with gun safety for the public hickok45. Your protocol on this video promotes an accident waiting to happen.
@@verruckterwissenschaftler lmao, you're telling Hickok how to operate firearms 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Go home troll
@@robertculpepper1508 Nah, Wissen has a point, although taking the gun to a gunsmith just for one dud cartridge is excessive.
Hickok has a .357 and I got my morning coffee...it's going too be a good day
Even better, Hickok45 has TWO 357s... Couldn't be better!
Was it a good day?
@@francicocorona6127 it was a great one! 😎
@Russell Weber III blasphemy
@Russell Weber III yeah there's definitely a correlation between coffee and crack
Will definitely vote for the Classic Model 19. - Classic .357 revolvers rule.
Depending on what you want in a gun...
@@conni4518 Okay, so share with the class, what is it you want in a gun?
@@beargunn7820more capacity and a laser light/torch
I've had my .357 Colt Python since 1985, the first year I could legally Buy a pistol. It has been a love affair for the ages.
never sell it...unless to me.
I've only had a 357 for 2 years but have owned a Ruger Redhawk in 44mag since mid 80s I still own my very first revolver a H&R mod 666 22mag / 22lr double action .
@@tigercat418 u friggin' serious guy?
@@acmspade report him, mister, I just made it
@@Oppressore looks like his comment was removed. just wondering what makes a person think that way. people get real brave on the internet.
Revolver and coffee and smoking pot in the morning. Life is Good !!
Revolver coffee & pot. All I really need🙏🏽
Amen. Don't forget beer and wiskey.
Skip the whiskey and beer. Pots good
I will be reporting you to the authorities
@@mrdiaz2367 shut up troll
First pistol I bought when I was 21 too long ago...S&W Highway patrolman M-28. .357 💗
I've had a M28 since 1975 and still in love with it.
Colt Lawman, my first revolver. Partex for the first GP-100 imported to the UK, sometime last century... Still got the Ruger, now shooting IPSC with it..
J Katt That is crazy my dad was 21 years old when he bought his first pistol and it was a S&W highway patrolman M-28 .357. He gave it to me when I turned 21 last year.
@@Joshua-dw3pw I'm tempted to take it to the dirt nap with me 😁😁😁
@@blatherskite9601 I always wanted a colt lawman... With a 2" barrel since I was a kid reading the Jerry Ahern Survivalist series of books
Thanks, Hickok 45. Revolvers enforced the law in my day. My first issue weapon was a S&W Model 10 in the Philippine Constabulary. It did its job well. I am still alive, after all. Thanks again.
Hell yeah !!!!!!! Hickok45 shooting 357 magnums. 357 magnum is my favorite round.
This is the only TH-cam channel where I click like before watching the video. So I don't forget.
While in the navy during Vietnam, my father won a classic .357 in a shooting competition. He still has and loves it to this day.
Cool history and cool revolver. That's one you'll want to keep in the family for centuries and be sure to pass down the history of it as you take it out and shoot it occasionally.
Love my M19 2.5". Pinned and recessed with the best action ever
3:06 This is why I like revolvers, when you get a dud pull the trigger for the next round unless of course your on round 6 then run Forrest run.
Just rack the slide on an auto
ammunition old 1980 😂
@@thailand-41 Duds can be brand new
...the bluing on that
S & W...
Absolutely gorgeous...
I love even after a year you still respond to comments now that's what I call commitment
Just randomly when I can as I'm skimming through. :-)
Always a pleasure to watch your videos. You reminds me all the good times i've shared with my father at the range, when he was still in this world. Now i'm still shooting with his S&W mod 19. The same as shown in this video. And always a little thought for him when I open my shooting bag at the range....
I actually have my grandpa's 357 from his time in the Chicago PD. It's aged surprisingly well.
Love my trr8. Shoots great. Have approx 800 rds though it with only 2 light primer strikes. Runs great.
The modern wonder 9's are great appliances, but the old blued revolvers are simply art.
Wish they would make the the 8 shot is a traditional look. Like an 8 shot highway patrolman!!!! Do it S&W!!!!
There is a eight shot with a traditional look, it's called the 1911.
@@arrlmember Yeah, but I want a revolver.
@@muleavenger9772 - The revolver does have one major advantage. It doesn't throw your brass away.
@@arrlmember Yeah and N frame 357 mags are just beautiful firearms in there own right. Nothing against 1911s thought. :)
@@arrlmember bb;n,,,j((o0
Love the classic 19
Both are great...revolver is the best.
I love my model 19 .357 magnum, stainless steel with wood grips. My dad bought it off an ex deputy sheriff years ago when they switched to semi auto.
My first .357 Magnum was a model 19-6 with Pachmayr grip. Sadly it had to go in 1997 due to the pistol ban over here. Loved that gun. Keep the videos coming to bring back the memories.
Quinch42 Did you have to turn your pistol in? What country was this?
The United Kingdom after the 1997 Amendment to the Firearms Act. All legally owned pistols and revolvers had to be handed in, compensation was paid and we ended up with Cap & Ball Black Powder revolver and Lever Action carbines in .357 and .,44 Mag. Now we are allowed Long Barrelled Revolvers in .357, 44 Mag, 45 LC which must be 61cm (24") from muzzle to wrist brace/counter weight, and similar Long Barrelled Pistols but only in .22LR with a maximum magazine capacity of 10 rounds.
Your missfire brought back some memories for me, if you don't mind I'll share mine. After a perticularly grilling two weeks guarding a highest seciruty site in Germany, some 60Kms from the East German border in 1967, we had some fun on the ranges with our personal issue Sterling Sub Machine guns. We fired on our backs, knees, sideways, upside down and even on auto which was strictly forbiden owning to the muzzle shift. then Tada. 5 rounds 25 yards 5 seconds exposure. 1. off 2. off 3. click. Right arm up and right foot back shout "Stoppage !" recharge weapon, 3. off, two rounds on the ground. Refit them in mag. 4. off then as the 5th round went off the target turned. "Cor f****g hell" came from my rear right, someone else went over ... same. We cleared guns. "no live rounds or empty cases in my possession Sir !", then moved forward to see the grouping. Ahem .... 3 rounds in 1.5" group centre. 1 round approx 2.5" north west of centre and a line exactly half the diameter of the 9mm round cutting straight across the taget dead centre, you could clip a round into either side of the target ! Oops. couldn't do that again don't think. That target hung in the Padderborn NAAFI for some years afterwards. As a tank gunner luckily I never experinced a missfire with a 17 ponder 20 or 105mm, thank God. the gunner has to remove the misfire from the gun/turret, then walk it 200 yards up range then ..... run like f**k !
I love my Dan Wesson .357 bull barrel/vent rib, blue 4”, 6” . Accurate.
Love my DW 715VH.
The Smith and Wesson Model 27 6" Blued made in the 70s is the masterpiece of revolvers. Elegant, p&r, perfect weight, accurate, beautiful lines, all steel, and a real great shooter. Love all of mine.
That was the revolver I bought when I got hired by the Cochise County Sheriff Dept back in Feb 1980. Fell in love with it. Never had no problems, very accurate and handled very well. Very good buy.
@@louwilson0906 Lou, I have a mod 28-2 and 2 27s. All P&R. I won't look at a Smith if it aint pinned and recessed. Love the old quality of those shooters.
The sw model 19 is a wonderful gun. Ive owned mine for about 4 years and probaly 10k rounds ive never had one misfire or any issue of any kind. Best 400 bucks i ever spent!
I love the Smith & Wesson Classics. I bought my first handgun while I was in College. It was a Model 28 with a 4" barrel. I bought it used from a local cop, it was in excellent shape. College was a long ago and I still have it and shoot it.
enjoyed it , , , I love to see those older classic guns come out of the case and play : - )
I have a 4" Model 19 myself, I absolutely love the gun. She's accurate, fun to shoot. I'm not a big guy and wanted to make it my carry gun. So I got some rosewood scales to make it slightly more compact and a shoulder holster I wear under any vest, jacket or coat depending on the season. I can't say enough good things about it, just that dumping .357 at a range gets pretty expensive.
What I love about the gun as a first gun (had a friend who showed and let me try a lot of guns before I got the Model 19) was that there is no jams, decent capacity (6 vs 9 for most), and very great accuracy. The 4 inch barrel also gives it great stability. And there is no spring wear due to keeping it loaded. The ONLY downside (for me) is it is not a tuck in the waistband and go. But while my mother's gun has 9 rounds (She has a 9mm) she has room for one spare mag. We're both carrying 18 rounds on our person fully kitted out.
My mother can't carry my revolver concealed, even with a coat. She's much shorter than I am and on her, it prints something fierce no matter what she does. So she needed something a lot more compact. I have a rather long, lean body that lends itself well to hanging stuff under the shoulders.
To any new shooter, I'd recommend the Model 19 as a great firearm. But what you actually carry should very based on how much work you're willing to do putting it on. How well you can wear it and keep it concealed. I'd say having a firearms enthusiast friend who lets you try various configurations out before you buy anything is the best bet. My mother is kinda wishing she had a .38 Special concealable now.
Hickok45, I noticed a gap between the frame and the grip; at the top of the grip on the left side. What's causing that issue? Leaving that misfire in the video is one of the many reasons you are the best! Thank you.
"Leaving that misfire in the video is one of the many reasons you are the best!"
I absolutely agree with you, John. You know there had to be some discussion at the Compound about whether or not to include that footage. In the end, though, Hickok and John's honesty, integrity and loyalty to their viewers, won the day! Both Federal and Bud's Gun Shop should be proud to sponsor them!
Semper Fi, TreeTop USMC 68-71
Quality control is not what it used to be. I prefer the old stuff any day.
I have a pre-model 27 357. I love shooting it and I love the story behind it. Nothing like a firearm with a story.
"I better STOP doin' that." *I chuckle.
"You get the joke?" *I crack up.
hahaha yeah, that was a good one.
I’ve owned a 19 for 30 years. Great shooter and beautiful classic weapon.
I had the same problem with those ammo "Amerin eagle" I thought it was my gun. But I found out that those bullets tend to do that. I use CCI ammo for my gun since then.
Well, everybody knows that Federal Premium is our sponsor, but by the same token, if you've seen all our videos, you know how incredibly rare this is. I've used American Eagle long before we started doing videos, mainly because it's good ammo and I never had issues with it. That's still the case.
You may have a gun that has a weak hammer or striker spring.
I would have thought that you would know how to spell "American" and known the first letter of "Eagle" should have been capitalized. Also, the bullet didn't fail. The primer did.
"I suggest you get both" my choice every time
I like the classic more my self.
That is just n good example of how a revolver just skip a bad round .something to think about in life and death situation
gunporn 8shot is cool but wood n blue is way cooler
Wander if it has that as options
I have a M0del 27 Smith 357 magnum 6 inch barrel nickle plated I bought in 1974 that has always been a great accurate shooter I would never sell it.
I wish you had put that bad primer round into the Classic and tried that.
it has indeed been so damn fun all these years, great to see a Father and Son enjoying making such awesome video's for us all these years, exhibiting all the goodies on yalls badass home range... I wish I was having fun with you :)
The 327 TRR8 and the R8, which I own, isn't a sexy gun but its a badass Punisher looking beast IMHO.
"I have some medium size man hands-- i mean dont have little hands but i dont have huge hands like Hickok45 whos like 6 foot 1000"
-- Garand Thumb.
Relevance? None. Justification? Not needed.
Hotel? Trivago.
Let me just add down here that John is 100% his father's son lol.
His voice isnt as salty from high schoolers tho but the mannerisms and his "uuhhm"
My father is a retired cop and his department issued.357 S&W until the late 90’s
Love my GP100, but there’s nothing like a classic... a true classic. Ps crazy about that round not firing. As always, we definitely appreciate you keeping it real and in the video
Something really funny about seeing a bottle getting absolutely blown away
I really like the .357 magnum I'd like to get one for my collection. I love the information you give about these guns on your channel. Thank you.
The old one was the one my great great grandpa used it when he was the sheriff
Beauty and the beast ha! Love it, and I'm a huge fan of 357 magnum!
I like the Trr8 but tough to beat a 19 and my favorite 357 model 27 N frame😊 Thanks Hickok 45 and John.
John: ...G.I. Bills, be aware of that.
Me: Be aware? Like gastrointestinal bills?
Purchased my Model 19 from Kmart in 1972. It still looks and shoot as good as it did back then. Good day
I would put on wood checkered grips on the TRR 8. Such an awesome revolver. To bad I’m broke
10:44 all those things you’re going to put on it…….a toaster?!
I about fell over laughing!!
😂😂😂
I'll stick with the classic. If I need to shoot eight shots from a revolver, I'm screwed, anyway!
Eh. You may speak otherwise in the face of a grizzly.
Richard Mack, point taken.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias although, 6 shots of 44, or hot 45 colt that is hard cast will do just as well.
@M Via depends on the load used. 357 can take down large game. However 45 colt is better. And 44 mag likely better than that. Its all about the hard lead. Soft lead gets you killed while hunting.
@M Via - I have read about a large brown bear that was taken with a .220 Swift, but I would not depend on it. A wise man will use something that is adequate for the task.
I got one for you. Classic tactical. I bought a stainless steel ruger security six four inch from my boss. Built 73-74, early production. Ditched the barney fife grips for the hogue mono and replace the front ramp for a green fiber optic. They aren't dovetailed. Actually had to get one for a short barrel and sp101 for it to work. Roll pin and all. Once I did this it's a modern classic tactical. I own 5 glocks. Love them. If I could only own one... Give me my security six. Best of both worlds.
Classic every time. Just don't dig the tactitardization of revolvers.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 That's a very tiny market and one that could be handled on a custom basis. For the hoi polloi, it doesn't matter.
I like the design. Black+poly tac look is cool
@@justtoolleeow304 And I prefer the polished steel and bluing. It shows quality.
8 rounds is quite a plus, tho.
@@gowithgroove Eh. Most self-defense shooting involving civilians are like 3 shots. Carry what you like. I just think the newer model looks cheap and in a way it is. Producing a gun with polished steel and bluing cost more and takes more work to make.
hey hickok45
, I'm a big fan and I would like you to know that there is a big fan base here in Brazil, we like your content a lot and hopefully one day we can have the freedom with guns that was taken from us
Thanks for watching down there. Sadly, freedom is much easier to lose than it is to regain.
Awesome video, I bit my revolver craze with a S&W mod 10, but soon was a the proud owner of a mod 19, mod 586 x2 and now a mod 66-8 my next one I want the model 627 PC Pro Series 8 shot, or the model 327 - TRR8 8 shot
OG 357 nuff said!!
Although I understand the reasoning, I just wish revolvers didn’t cost so much.
What is the reasoning?
@@AfrewSpines
More Semi Autos are being produced due to their popularity leaving less revolvers to be made. Revolvers also use steel frames where as semi autos may use aluminum or a steel polymer which are less expensive and easier to produce. Revolvers require more precision machines to manufacture along with the higher priced pieces needed to make them is why they cost more.
Still sounds like I'd rather pay more for a nice revolver that'll last a lifetime though.
Besides everyone knows revolvers are cooler, lol
what a terrific aim you have got sir! extraordinary skill! i have seen other experts miss ..... but not you!!
That classic was my Grandpa's, very fun to shoot and very easy to clean/maintain. Very special something to remember him by as well, definitely be taking it to the grave.
Never seen an 8 shooter. Pretty awesome piece right there.
I learned to shoot with the 19
My dad has a classic model 19 that he used when he was a Leo. He won't give it up at all. He says I have to wait till he passes away. I have a long way 2 go for that to happen. Dam that gun looked nice. I just can't stop looking and thinking about it now more then ever. Also I don't want my dad to go so I'll just wait patiently like I have for the past 20 yrs
This video makes me want a revolver
Byron Grandberry Go git u one!
These are pricey, but a good revolver is a thing of beauty. I have a preference for Single Action Army models.
In "it's day" the Model 19 was known as the Combat Magnum for a reason. The go-to gun for combat. I bought mine second hand several years ago. It is still one of my favorite guns.Thank you Hickok45 for a great video. Life IS good!
Now I gotta Go shoot Dads Dan Wesson Model 16 Early 1980s i think, Chestnut box with 3 Barrel's .. Butter. Gotta Get some Ammo
Yes, I have 2, both with 6" barrel's. I love to shoot them!
Had a buddy that owned a .357 Dan Wesson from the early 80’s. Beautiful gun.
I traded mine for an AR lower and I still kick my ass for that.
@@nedflanders5302 haha.. its only shot mabe a Box of ammo . Dead on, Accurate and No kick.
@@bansheemania1692 They definitely shoot very well and have minimal recoil.
I purchased a V-Comp last year. It has a more classic look to it and it holds 8 rounds. It in my opinion has the best of both worlds.
Quick grammar lesson for free too! Gotta love hickok45!
Getting both is definitely the best answer here. Great video, as always!
When Hk45 puts a old revolver in his hands MAGIC.
Great video. What's the deal with the fit of that grip on the Performance Center model?
I noticed that too. Not impressed.
same bad fit with my R8 =/
I owned a Dan Wesson .44 Mag and fire it heavy and often at the range and used it for hunting with a Hogue grip (Loved the look of the Wesson walnut grip and the reactions it got with it and the 8 or 10" VH barrels at the range) and the Hogue NEVER in all the years of heavy use did anything like the grip on that Tactical. I too am not impressed.
@M Via I have to agree on both points. S&W needs to revive their old fit and finish standards as well as design standards.
I have that same model. My grip is exactly the same. It’s slightly warped. Took it out, tried to bend it in and nothing. All I ended up doing is scratching the finish. And I would hate to call S&W. The three screws for the bottom picatinny rail were out of spec and would not go in. I called S&W customer service and they sent me new ones. But I dreaded talking to the woman that handled my claim over the phone. She had a terrible attitude.
Smith & Wesson, get it together!!
The more guns I collect and as I've matured over the years, the more I appreciate the classics. Iron and wood. Same for semi-auto pistols. Glocks are a great tool but if I'm going to have a firearms "collection" you just can't beat metal framed pistols and wood grips.
S&W 686 or 686p are as good as the guns in the video.
Garbage
I don't want this to sound like bragging because that is not the point i want to make. I own and regularly shoot S&W models 60, 27, 6 and 7 shot 686s, and 4 29s or 629s with barrels from 2 1/8" to 8 3/8" and enjoy them all. But just as Mr. Hickok 45 felt, if I knew i was going into battle and had to carry a revolver, the R8 is the one I would take. Yes the 686s are good guns, great even and every bit as good or better for some purposes and the the 686p would come in a close second for choice in a battle, but the R8 wins hands down. Another thing that wasn't brought up is the ease and speed of reloading with the moonclips.
I still have a NIB 686 no dash. It never had the modification to the firing pin and busing so it has never been shot. My two 19-4s have had thousands of rounds ran through them. 686 might be good now, but they had a really rough start.
Classic every dang time. I have a 686 plus and an old model 29. I prefer the old school every time.
W O W!
Never Ever heard of a 357 dud b4!
Both please. They're two different experiences - life is too short to be so picky you'd rather deny yourself the opportunity to explore something new.
Will we ever see the smith and Wesson model .645?
"You oughta see me with .357 magnum....I'm awesome."
Kind of brings to mind my girlfriend's 'tactical' Mossberg 30-30. I can't go there haha
This is the most American man I've ever seen. What a chad.
Hickok45's videos hit different when you're actually of age to shoot.. I remember watching his videos in early highschool, maybe even middle school. Now that it's been a while I can binge watch everything Lol
You mean you can another spend your paychecks on guns and shoot them all
Thank you enough said. I can't believe it took me four years to see! this vid
The left grip also is loose (@ 10:50).. i agree with the master, it aint pretty !!
Build quality of new S&W are below any standards of the old S&W
I can tell just got a “Performance Center” Revolver last year and after 10 Shots it came apart. I had to give it to my gunsmith and he found a couple of other issues he had to fix.
So for me the no more new S$W I rather buy the old ones
Uncle Tom cannot agree more. I have recently bought a (surprisingly good condition) 910 and its build quality is still better than what you get now in the new ones
The model 19 could be described his old but gold
The TRR8 with stag or wood grips with all the stupid rails taken off of it actually looks awesome
You would not want to mess with this guy.
that was a perfect example of what not to do with a revolver misfire. in the UK if you got a fail like that and you just carried on shooting and them unloaded. you would be bind off the range and probably not allowed back, ever.
Yap yap yap liberal
Just got this recommended and love how he says “ wheew doggy” lol
I love your videos I wish I can shooting with you.
Model 19 and 66 are the best carry revolvers ever made.
Old school Blued model 19, one of the prettiest guns ever made.
*Puts synthetic grip on a revolver*
Wait... that's illegal.
Rubber grips > wood grips
Especially so on a magnum caliber revolver... I like to shoot my guns, not stare at them. Wood hurts with 120gr .357 mag.
@@mannys9130 - Checkering can bite, but if you put smooth wood grips on a .44 Mag revolver it will just roll back in your hand. If you want to do the double action jerk, rubber grips may be OK on something smaller such as the .357.