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- Uhh... PK Fire?
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simple.
ness’s dad is a telephone.
and lucas’s dad is chuck norris.
No its red dead redemption protagonist
Oh hey it appears your pfp is the boy who really likes hitting the franklin badge with lethal electricity
Ness has a mom
Ness: Man, This ain’t my dad. This is a cell phone
@@99wins31 did you see the Ness's dad spirit?
It's pretty simple, actually. One is famous in the west and the other's game wont be released there.
Reggie, give us Mother 3!
*bursts into fire*
Ness: OK! 😃
Lucas: 😭
Ninten: •-•
and another mom is dead
@@AlexEXE He retired for a reason :p
@@AlexEXE Sadly but Reggie retired from Nintendo :(
Anyone: Makes a video about Lucas
The comments:
“Haha lucas mom dead”
“Haha game not localized”
"Haha pk fire go woosh"
“haha lucas spam freeze”
“Haha pk, i hate”
Ness's dad who never came back
Right and you can guarantee it's from people who haven't even played Mother 3.
Wack.
“What’s the difference between Ness and Lucas”
Me:Ness has a hat and Lucas looks like Rick Astley
Lol
Never gonna give you up, never gonna release your game
Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down
oh yeah
Yooo lucas look like rick astley
Lucas's crouch Pose looks like he's about to dash. In Mother 3, when you press the Dash button, it looks like the crouch he does in smash bros ultimate
Can confirm this. It’s a pretty cool callback
I'm more of a Lucas person, but I really love both characters. Ness and Lucas is a great example of having a shared idea for a moveset but at the same time making them feel like 2 entirely seperate characters.
every ness main has or is planning to kill someone
@@rubub8455 I have found another form of darkness, switching from Ness to Lucas, mostly to have a usable neutral B and more comfortable side B. Also funni snek
I am also more of a lucas person
Same
Same, I also prefer lucas instead of ness. But I still like both, but I like lucas more.
"Lucas' PK Fire is a single burst"
Combo Counter: "That's two hits, my dude."
Sure it is, combo counter...
@@Mari-hp4tl It really is. Although very rare it is possible to only hit one part of Lucas' PK fire.
For pk Fire, ness does the Dodon Ray while Lucas does the kamehameha
Not sure how I feel about this
Intenselly LIt it’s true though
Lmao true
Now i can't help but hear budokai voice lines when i see them
That is because Lucas is a Super Saiyan the entire match
9:51 "As for everything else, they're nothing special"
Lucas has 3 kill throws. THREE
His up throw kills before his forward throw with proper DI though so there’s nearly so situation where you’d want to use fthrow???
@@ktoolsssb7080 Actually, at the ledge, I'm pretty sure f throw kills slightly earlier than up throw at around 120 to 130 percent. But yes, you should almost always use up throw or back throw. Doesn't change the fact that his throws are great
I use them to DI trap... If i'm facing the ledge they have to guess if they want to do DI away Upthrow or DI in fthrow (if they mess up or you condition them you can Kill at 120% with fthrow)
Lol dthrow is the only useless one
The Pokemaster No. His fthrow kills 5% earlier at ledge on PS2, lylat and unova. It’s honestly not that useful
As a lucas player i thought i'd add a few things,
- you can also cancel magnet with jump as u heal.
- his down throw doesn't actually bury, you can set the opp to 999 and its still the same, and it isn't affected by mash either, its purely aesthetic.
- Calling his uthrow nothing special isn't true, it kills midweights around 140 ish, making it one of the strongest uthrows in the game.
- His fthrow is also a kill throw, although typically uthrow will kill a percents sooner, but will kill earlier on TnC.
- His usmash has head intangibility frames 15-29 and full body invincibility frame 1-7. Also coined the strongest usmash in the game.
Some more in-depth opinions on which is better
Magnet
- Magnet has much less combo untility compared to ness, only allowing really magnet to datk at 0.
- magnet is the safest non-projectile move in the game (more so than Mario's atks, Lucario aura nair, shotos nair etc.). allowing for plenty of shield pressure. it is 0 on shield, so you can magnet the top on their shield and if they dont have an option oos faster than frame 7, u can uair them (which is also safe).
- Magnet apparently can auto turnaround at times, I'm not too knowledgeable about how it works though.
- when the opponent is airborne, the pull increases dependent on the opponent's percentage. Good for anti-ledgetrapping, reverse edgeguarding ( pulling them into a bair).
Thunder
- the term you didn't use was that it's transcendent. Its a much better edgeguarding tool but a much worse juggling tool. also when recovering it won't hit opponents and make you fall to your death. Pk thunder 2 also has trouble with all hits connecting too.
Pk fire
- when pk fire cranks with another projectile it actually explodes and makes a burst towards the enemy actually hitting them. Not sure if ness does that.
- It also pushes lucas a bit in the air (similar to gunner fair, corrin bair). (also not sure if ness does that)
- airial version has much more landing lag (as its meant to be used further away compared to ness's)
- outside of playing idiots, it's mainly used as an edgeguarding tool (also tech chasing and jump callouts), and can actually kill decently early.
Uair
- While both have amazing combos, his is a single hit making it so they won't fall out (#fixmultihits). It has a decent disjoint on the back of the head allowing for his uair to actually beat palu's nair.
- Although ness's uair kills a lot earlier than lucas's
utilt
- Lucas's is faster, acts similar to a zss utilt by being a quick get off me tool and putting the opponent into the air.
- Although has much less combo ability, with the only combos being frame perfect fh uairs at low-mid percentages.
- Ness's has a sour spot that may be hit against grounded opponents, while lucas's sourspot is the delay hit (meaning if you get hit by the horizontal hitbox while grounded, it will always pop the opponent into a sweetspot.)
Datk
- lucas's can hit under the ledge (but not all characters)
Ftilt
- Is pretty disjointed but isn't that long.
- Solid 2 -framing move/extended ledge hang.
- The sweet spot kills a bit earlier, but the sourspot doesnt really kill at all. (Although ness's ftilt is surprisingly strong).
- is -8 when spaced, making link's upb the only move in the game that can punish it on shield when spaced right. (Ness's is -17)
Neutral b
- Ness can actually combo from his bc of the high freeze frame (if he lands it close).
Fsmash
- lucas's also reflects projectiles slightly sooner, although for slightly less duration.
SH/FH time
- It takes ness a lot longer to do sh, fh, shff, fh ff. one of the reason's why he can spam so much
Other/Gameplay/Who should you chose
- Lucas has: Better edgeguarding with all aerials being amazing(dair you don't have to time, bair spikes and is disjointed and lasts relatively long(good at reverse edgeguarding, nair is really good at dragging opponents, fair is really strong), and all specials being useful. Better recovery with tether and long upb. He typically plays more defensively (although he can play both very well), but he can't "spam as much", many of his moves has tipper so u have to space and his burst options are kinda meh (pivot filt > datk all the time and dash grab is kinda bad). Although technically his moves are safer on shield, but ness can "spam more" making them harder to punish. He doesn't have as many true combos, mostly mixups are harder techs like dair loops, nair loops, djcz loops, dtilt loops. In general, it's harder to close stocks with Lucas. Lucas's oos isn't as good with frame 10 nair, frame 12 fair, frame 1-8 invincible usmash that comes out on frame 28 (tank through spammers), while ness's nair is frame 8 and has a better hitbox and sets up for tech chases.
While i don't think there is one that is exclusively better, as both has there strong points and it comes down to a matter of playstyle. (Although low-key, i think ness is better despite being a lucas player).
Omg, clearly underrated, almost nobody noticed you ! That's sad, I'll give you a thumb up if it can help. Writing so much for almost nothing.. damn, I feel you.
I'll definetly try all your tips and trying playing Lucas more.
Calm down brother you wrote a whole god damm essay
Ness is still better
ness pk fire does do some recoil on the ground and air but it isnt as apparent as lucas. for lucas up smash i think at least in terms of damage wise he falls a little short towards ganon's. i personally i like to play lucas cause he's just very fun to play as and has cool stuff with his tilts and zair tech but i'm much better with ness cuase of combos with magnet. i think the guy forgot to mention that ness has a sour spot on his up tilt and it usually happens with shorter characters.
Bless ya
One psi user is a spammer of fire the other is a spammer of ice
haha pk fire bad
Lucas is basically Todoroki
Mega Charizard X. Sorry I don’t watch My Hero Macadamia Nut
@@wwa_minuet I see
@@megacharizardx.2895 That's like deep bruh
*Ness' Starstorm meteors are stronger and bigger than Lucas' but Lucas has faster and more numerous meteors aside from being easier to control. Also Ness' Starstorm always begins at the middle of the stage while Lucas' always starts above him. This creates an interesting effect when used at a high height...
*Lucas has the better recovery since his PK Thunder isn't as gimpable as Ness and PK Thunder 2 sends him nearly twice as much distance as Ness'.
*Lucas' PK fire has actual kill potential especially offstage while Ness' can't kill at all except in mid-air. (without followups)
*Lucas is not floatier than Ness
*Lucas has faster base speed than Ness but Ness has a tad bit better acceleration.
*Lucas' voice isn't as annoying as Ness' (imo).
Edit: some corrections due to mistakes on my part (anything beyond this point are additional ones that I forgot)
*Ness' PK Thunder moves faster than Lucas'
*Ness has a stronger reflector (fsmash).
Ness has a mom. (Sniff)
Lucas's pk starstorm doesn't always spawn above him, if you are close enough to the top blastzone they will spawn to his side or below him
@@Wheaty03 yeah, i wanted to include that but i didn't know how to explain it.
Pk freeze haunts me though
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Whenever i hear Lucas say "PK FIRE" it makes me wanna write a song about it...
Go for it! That would be interesting! 😃
@@scarlettlivi8003 i think that was sarcasm/irony…
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ik im 2 years late but whatever
“For PK Thunder, when measuring the distance, Lucas seems to go a little bit further”
What do you mean “a bit further” he traveled like double ness’s distance
Nah bro lucas went to the fucking moon
@@NotMichael349you can even survive a bowser suicide grab.
2:33 I love how lucas just absorbs the stick 😂🤣
True xD
It just kinda dissolved in his hand I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Meanwhile Ness is a normal kid and puts it in his backpack 😆
3:05 "Lucas does three *E N E R G Y* blasts"
No it's Ok Love, honestly I'm curious to how Pk ground looks like and wonder if that should of been Lucas's final smash. But it's all Okay.
I mean, that’s basically what both Rockin AND Love are anyway
Nobody:
Lucas absolutely boding Ness: 10:36
Honestly Lucas' moves are so different from Ness at times that I have to wonder why they're even considered clones.
@Christian
I really wanted to main Banjo, but unfortunately his play style isn't for me. I love just about everything about his inclusion, though, and I was very happy when that trailer dropped.
Probably their specials
Fun fact(s): Ness' PSI attacks (Nuteral Air/Dash attacks) are actually PSI Rockin', an exclusive PSI only obtainable for him. Same with Lucas, but with PK Love, shared with Claus.
The most satisfying thing you can do online is using Ness and Lucas’ recoveries successfully.
Using them succesfully is easy, the hard thing is not getting edguarded
There are so many more satisfying things in this game. I also think hitting PK Thunder 2 as both is much more satisfying than simply grabbing ledge. And using PK Thunder 1 to hit opponents (again as both) is very satisfying. Lucas make people feel invalidated when they try to return to stage and Ness can hit people for a very long time and rack up tons of damage.
Thank you for showcasing how different these characters are to everyone who says they're the same.
there's even more differences he missed
Literally nobody says that about Ness and Lucas. You are confusing them with the 4 Marths which are practically the same.
@@impossiblehanley2732 hey man don't get your truffles in a twist, it was just a comment
@@randomkidsfromcherrystreet7430 bruh
I was looking for a main but couldn't make up my mind, after several months of reflection and trying out I'm now a happy Lucas main 🥳
plz don't PK Freeze me
When you were analyzing their up b's, what do you mean "a little bit of more distance than Ness" when describing Lucas'? His goes WAY further. I just though I should point that out
If you experiment with it you'll notice Lucas's is nearly twice as far
Lucas'recovery options are insane. I hate him
@@JayJayNoelastnam just, why? there are characters with WAY more broken and overpowered recovery tools like rob/villager upB, king k rool upB, minmin/joker tether G&W upB, etc… Also, you can just counter or reflect ness‘ and lucas‘ upB quite easy
9:52
"as for the other throws, they're nothing else"
dude, both lucas's up'throw and f'throw are kill throws.
And back throw
8:17 those screams lmao
I think the fact that Ness becomes a human missle is more hilarious 😆
It's simple
One has eyebrows
and the other doesn't have eyebrows
oh god oh frick I can’t unsee it
Ness: hey Lucas, wanna hear a joke?
Lucas: ok, what is it?
Ness: YOUR MOM HAHAHAHA
Lucas: dude that meme is so dead
Ness: like your mom :)
EDIT: Part 2
Lucas: well at least I’ve seen my dad
Ness: well at least I can appreciate my sibling!
Dang... 💀
Ness clearly destroyed Lucas in this comment .-.
7:32 Ness can also roll out of his magnet
9:53 Lucas has a really good up and forward throw, they’re both some of the best in the game
Ness: Hey Lucas how is your PK Fire?
Lucas: Don’t even think about it
*Ness’s Pk Fire is multiple hit and Lucas is double hit*
Ness: You are only a doubl-
Lucas: *I SAID DON’T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT*
Lucas: Well at least mine can kill offstage and anywhere
Lucas's PK Fire actually technically has 2 hits (as shown by the training mode combo counter)
@@zoruasgang740 ness pk fire is spamable
Psionics 321 So can Ness’s, if you get pk fired offstage, Ness can go for a down-air spike
@@alphalupus7527 i meant PK Fire by itself meaning follow ups aren't part of it. Ness PK Fire can't kill by itself is what I meant
Lucas PK Fire looks like hes doing a Kamehameha.
Also you are one of my favorite channels. You just so good at that
My favorite series on your channel by far! There are more instances like this so keep it up until every clone is covered!
They're completely different characters, but in general, Ness has a lower skill cap but a lower barrier of entry. Lucas as some wacky frame-perfect tech that makes him dummy good in a variety of situations
Except when people put Lucas in a disadvantage.
I think Ness is more optimized competitively, BestNess plays like a TAS
oof, the djcz (double jump cancel zair)… i tried to learn it for hours and didn’t succeed.
@@mcskyer5039 me either it is so hard dude
What's between difference Ness and Lucas?
EVERY MOVE
simple, one has a nightmare life and one has a sad life
Well first of all, Ness has a bat
Lucas has a very powerful stick
Like the games, ness equips bats while lucas uses sticks (he can equip 2 bats found near the end of the game)
something i really enjoy from a design soundpoint is that Ness’ generic PSI attacks (maybe it’s PK Rockin’?) are round, while Lucas’ generic PSI attacks (maybe it’s PK Love?) are hexagonal
The difference is that Ness has a Mom.
💀💀💀💀💀
Lucas has a present father
@@seibetsu Oh yeah, the same father that abandoned him for most of his life to look for his presumed dead brother?
@@jackfakename4851 salty that Mother 3 is better
should've mentioned the other throws they have. lucas' forward, back, and up all kill
Not nearly as early as ness’ bthrow tho
Lucas has 2 combo throws i think
@@MAlru005 dude nah he doesnt even have 1
GDMixer still worth mentioning
yeehaw d-throw fair?
Ness has a 2x power multiplier on his bat reflection while Lucas only has a 1.5x power multiplier.
I love both of them,mainly because of recovering with the recover,it's just so satisfying
lucas can shift his momentum with zair using a tech called djcz (double jump cancel zair), and he can also use it to combo u across the stage. Ness's magnet hitbox has set knockback
Don't foget that Ness Magnet is a combo extender.
@@BlazenPowers ye
For up tilt, Ness does in fact have a sweet spot. The sour spot data is the old up tilt data from brawl. if you hit the sour spot you hear the generic punch sound but if you get the sweet spot a magic sound is played instead
Lucas's magnet activates sooner. Ness can also roll after using magnet. His magnet hit box is magic based while lucas's is electric. Ness's magnetic repulsion also does not scale while Lucas' magnetic attraction increases with percent while airborne
Ness has one very strong kill throw while Lucas has 3 weaker ones
I love the thumbnail of this video!
You mained Ness in Melee? God rest your soul...
Yeah he was trash in that game
He didn't even main the PK Boys. He mained a PK BOI.
Yeah that’s why, while I love Meelee, I like the original Smash and Ultimate better. I feel like they did a fantastic job at recapturing just how devastating his attacks were in the first game while vastly improving his overall mobility.
"Now let's talk about their smash attacks"
*Starts Playing Smashing Song of Praise*
You Mother-
Lucas crying in the corner because you said mother
It's funny to look at Lucas while he's doing Pk Fire and think he's about to do a Kamehameha :v
2:28 you forgot that both can reflect projectiles with F-Smash. When they reflect projectiles, the damage increases, although Ness makes the projectile stronger than Lucas does.
Alex.EXE: Their dash attacks
Captions: tHeIr *-* AtTaCkS
These two have little in common. They are completely different characters unlike Marth and Roy.
I think it's because visually they do look kinda the same although yeah Roy is too similar to Marth than Lucas is to Ness
Kiz Epic Journey Marth and Roy are very, very different characters Marth relies on controlling space and Roy is rushdown.
They have the same bodies essentially and both rely on PSI, which is why they're so comparable. They're pretty different but it's not that hard to compare them.
It is amazing though how they borrow almost no animations between each other now.
@@Trybel Not different enough.
K-leb baby
I rewatched this video 9 times now and i can’t stop i don’t know why LMAO
I’m not sure about Ness, but Lucas’ forward smash also reflects projectiles, but you gotta hit it at the right time. Really fun to use, and I love the little clubbing sound it makes when he hits someone with the stick lol
I think you should've mentioned that they have the longest traveling airdodges in the game
I used an easier dodging spirit on Ness once, and it looked like another double jump 😆
5:15 at around say 30 on ridley lucas can combo 4 up airs into each other for 50 percent. You really underrated this move
Yeah it's a really fun move
It's my favorite move when I go lucas
@@chilly2126 I love using Fair and Nair
@@smashssf2_ssbc15 I like bair more than nair. Nair just feels like it has such low hit stun and I can't combo with it
@@chilly2126 I mean...you can combo into fair or bair after the double jump, at lower percents it combo into itself, it all depends on where the opponent will be.
Also Nair is a ok move OoS
"This isn't the type of move you'd want to spam."
*My casual ass shuffles away*
There’s a lot of really cool movement tech you can do, I know specifically with Ness you can do some double jump cancels with magnet or PK Fire to change trajectory, and Magnet is also good to stall for a second to mess up someone’s timing. You can also bounce yourself off the side of the stage with a PK Thunder 2 to do another PK Thunder as a recovery mixup
Bro can't believe you didn't talk about Lucas having 3 kill throws.
I like lucas personally. Also another difference is using Pk fire in the air. Ness' will go diagonally downward, while lucas' stays horizontal
6:38
Finally, a difference video between Ness and Lucas!
PK Thunder (Lucas) has more angles when recovering and Lucas can recover from almost anywhere.
It’s crazy how keep I can go below stage and still make ledge.
Simple Ness has a coward dog
Lucas has a dog THAT TRAVELS TO SAVE THE WORLD.
Lucas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other super smash bros ultimate characters
Lucas main, no shame
Cade-O Potato He’s my main (also Sonic)
Lucas is underrated as hell, he deserves better
SMASH ssf2_ssbc yeah nobody plays him and that sucks
good job about What's the Difference between Characters with Ness and Lucas from Super Smash Bros Ultimate 2018
“Lucas is just Ness without the drip” -my homie
I laugh at those who think Ness and Lucas are the exact same. (Mostly my friends though)
I play Ness more, but I've always have. I still play Lucas a lot though. One thing is I believe they gutted Lucas' down throw in this game. It sucks that in a game where they buffed all of the other characters burrowing moves, Lucas was the only one who got his severely nerfed.
ScarfFox and Friends his F, B and Up throws are all kill throws. Down isn’t a big deal.
@@hecetewest5411 I rather have a single kill throw and another Throw that helps get you to kill percentage than 3 kill throws.
I think you understated just how much farther Lucas's recovery goes. Lucas's PK Thunder rocket goes almost twice as far, while he also has the option to recover using his tether (the rope snake), which has good range. Also this is a bit more advanced so I'm not surprised you have not talked about it, however Lucas has a character specific tech with his Zair called Double Jump Cancelled Zair (DJCZ). This can be used for combos and confirms and makes his combo game quite a bit better than Ness's. Overall good video which went over the basics.
Do villager and Isabelle next! By the good video. They're always pretty nice to watch :)
Ness’s PK fire slopes downward when fired from the ground, and I don’t know quite how to phrase it, but the trajectory of ness and lucas feels different depending on the angle you hit them with pk thunder. I haven’t played either of the mother series characters much, but it might just be the speed at which pk thunder flies which confuses me when i play ness or lucas.
I think PK Thunder by itself always hits the same way. Ness will hit you mostly upward, but also inward. Lucas will hit you away from stage, but it is also confusing with all of the tail hits.
I did not know that up and down mechanic with Lucas's final smash.
Wow u actually did my request
WHY DOES THIS GUY HAVE ONLY 60k SUBS he deserves more
U literally count the small details u need more subs
I've been playing Lucas more than Ness lately and I've discovered that sourspot combos are very useful
Lucas has my favorite spike which is his back air
My favorite spike is king dedede’s up-b cuz it kills everyone at 0%
To me the back air just looks cool and is fun to pull off with his magnets wind hit box at high percents
Hew Fanshawe
And here I am wondering who the fuck asked
@@feched8445 Boom roasted
Ness was a character I used to never play back in N64 and Melee days but he is now my main. Oh how the turntables
Huh! Definitely thought these two were more similar than they actually are, interesting!
I only play lucas cause blondes have more fun.
Cool I play the ginger haired one.
@@abcaretheonlylettersiknow7834 Ya mean Claus?
Uhh what?
@@abcaretheonlylettersiknow7834 the ginger haired ones the best. Gotta love pk suicide lightning
I play the masked man (grey) skin
Sorry for pointing out this tiny detail, but Lucas's final smash i think has more attacks than ness, but does less damage and travels faster.
Haven't played ultimate for a few months, and just picked up Lucas. Holy shit is this character fun.
Nice video!... but Lucas's voice in 5:44 xd
It’s kinda simple aerials are different, Thunder for Ness doesn't hit multiple times, Fire for Lucas knows you back and pushes Lucas if used in air (Little) Moves are different and B-Moves.
Edit: Oh yeah sorry about Smash attacks and Tilt my bad.
I just noticed that Lucas has eyebrows and ness doesn’t
Yay it’s here
Omg i just realized that the background during lucas' pk starstorm is the battle background during the masked man fight
Ness has a family. Lucas does not.
Lucas does lmao. Albeit most of the members aren't blood related to him.
Yeah
He still had his father and his grandpa until the end of the game.
@@abcaretheonlylettersiknow7834 Grandpa? I thought they were Duster's dad.
@@ShiyugaYomei I'm pretty sure you're thinking about Wess The father of Duster. Alec is the father of Hinawa so that makes Lucas his grandson.
Lucas's nair can combo into a lot of his moves
At low percentage yes but high no I would use it for a kill move I would combo with bait or dair.
“I’m no pro”
Also Alex: Shows me 3 things I didn’t know ab the differences
This Is a Great Video, Btw do Pit and Dark Pit. PLS I want to see the difference between them
I hope to not burst your bubble but there are only 2 main differences between the two, which wouldn't make for an interesting video. Pit's arrows are weaker but are easier to curve, making better to gimp, while Dark Pit's do more damage but are harder to curve. Pit's side B sends upwards making it more reliable to KO anywhere, but Dark Pit's side B sends horizontal, making it KO easier at ledge.
Starstorm funfact: Ness always comes out the center of the map while lucas's is based above him
I've become a dead meme for the smash bros and undertale fandom, and Lucas has become a dead meme for the Mother 3 fandom. Any questions?
Hey if the meme is dead its not here anymore
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO I use both ness and Lucas I love them so much and no I’m not one of those ness that will spam fire I suck at the game but I’m way better then that
Something probably only I know is that when you use Ness’ / Lucas’ PSI magnet during he’s rising on the first jump slightly boosts them higher although it stops all aerial movement on the second jump, (this also works with mii gunners absorbing vortex with both jumps).
maybe forgot to say that both fsmash reflect proyectiles
Resume:
Lucas need more skill than just using side B
YEssss
So true
@@jamjam1019 ness mains don’t do that
@@jamjam1019 it’s little kids who pick up ness for one match
Lucas has three kill throws at varying percents. Backthrow killing earliest, followed by upthrow and then forward throw.
Also good to mention that if Ness' thunder is hit offstage he'll die but Lucas can still recover.
It's so cool that Nintendo made these characters pretty different. They could've easily gone the route of so many other characters and just made them close to identical, with only a couple of differences, but instead we got two fairly distinct characters despite Lucas essentially having the same body as Ness.
I do think that they could be a _bit_ more unique though. Mother 3 has a PSI ability exclusive to it - PK Ground. It would've been nice for Lucas to take advantage of it, most likely as a final smash seeing as it is pretty expensive and powerful in Mother 3. Now if only it had a more satisfying name... Even "PK Earthquake" would be better.
Furthermore, the defining gameplay role of both Ness and Lucas in their respective games (as well as Ninten in his) is support. They can't actually use the offensive abilities that are PK Fire, PK Thunder, and PK Freeze. Their spell list mostly consists of healing, shielding, buffing, countering, and status-inducing spells. They have so many different ones that it's a pity none of them are represented. Either Lucas or Ness could have PSI Magnet replaced with something like Shield (a shield that you can move with?), Counter, Paralysis, Hypnosis, OffenseUp, DefenseUp, or LifeUp.
Also shouldn't Lucas' PK Thunder be yellow? The visual effect for PK Thunder is yellow in Mother 3.
Ness is more annoying, while Lucas is actually cool
Ness can bw cool when it isnt a spammer
@@frogoyes7611 exactly
Lucas get longer by pk fire in the air
Me and my late brother Mained ness and Lucas and the differences between them for us was our strongest advantage.We we’re so in sync it was nuts.
It's nice to know that two brothers from onett are so different I wish more smash characters where like them.
They’re not even related
@@kuma6572 Hey look! You see the joke? No? Because it went over your head.
What are you talking about? There wasn’t a joke in the original comment at all.
@@kuma6572 well the comment is not edited and the joke was how people who never played mother always are like Ness and Lucas are brothers living in Onett.