Yes, you see that a lot in food products, like chip bags that are an ounce less for the same price. Just don't expect it to be so blatant by a well respected brand like Bosch.
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The old Bosch baseplate and ADBV is almost identical to the Blue Purolator ONE. So if you like that older design, that'd be my next move. The Wix is a great filter, but the standard wix had less filter media in the can. Though tried and true, the PureONE is probably the closest twin to the old Bosch design.
Thanks man. Appreciate the recommendation and info. The PurolatorOne filter is about the same price, but the quality looks to be way better. I'll give it a try.
@@LuckyVagabond absolutely! I've been a fan of them, and not for nothing but that new design looks like a Baldwin filter element and baseplate, which also have a good rep, but In my opinion, a downgrade from the old design.
@@Andrew__Smith I'm not slandering them, they seem fine, and as I mentioned, have a great reputation. But the construction has never really impressed me. Though you're right on the bypass. It looked good to me
I'm not sure you can blame Bosch here. Bosch Premium filters have been made by M&H Purolator in the US, Fayetteville NC to be exact. Excepting the sealing gasket material, they were very similar to the current Purolator One PL14610, made in same factory. Yes, the US made were excellent filters. It's quite possible though that Mann&Hummel (M&H) owner of Purolator decided to move production of the BP to Mexico. You are correct about the Mexican made BP, it's crap as compared to US made. Fwiw, I do believe adbv on the Mex made is silicone though. As for the Wix 57356 shown, it has the Wix type base plate design but Purolator type element design now. Wix used to use base end bypass, but M&H also owner of Wix, has moved to dome bypass like Puro. The upside to that is more media area because the Wix base end bypass took up significant space in the can. So, Mexican made Bosch Premium, no beuno.
Thanks for the great insight. I used to buy the Purolator filters back 10 to 15 years ago because of the great quality, but then they got kinda pricey. The Bosch Premium filter was a good sweet spot between price and quality.
When it comes down to it, what the box says doesn't matter. There's questionable-everything being sold as "made in america". Just so you know, certain Wix filters were made overseas. And its not just Wix.
The ADBV is silicone rubber on both. Nitrile is black. Orange means silicone rubber. True, if you can see glue inside, that is bad, since a chunk could break off and go directly into your oil galleys. Bosch rates a "Do Not Buy" now. Cleanest inside and out (far less excess glue) has to be O'Reilly Autopart's "MicroGard Select" line of oil filters. Fram Ultra tends to be pretty good inside and quality too (walmart, etc.). I'm having a couple of Purflux LS350 (crosses to Fram Ultra XG7317 for Honda) (France) oil filters shipped from Latvia ports to the U.S.(ebay) because they are clean inside and have about 50% more filter media surface area inside, and of course silicone ADBV, a must-have.
Great comment man. I just ordered some Denso filters to see what they look like. I like the Wix filters a lot, but want to see other options, especially at lower price points. Bosch is unfortunately, like you said, a DO NOT BUY.
@@LuckyVagabond Germany company Mahle makes most of the OEM Honda oil filters in Japan or Thailand, but they are built differently to Mahle-branded oil filters for the application. You can get Hengst or Mann too, good quality, but as you say they are more commonly OE on Audi or Mercedes and it's kind of strange to run it on a Honda. Anyway these are the part numbers: Honda (standard: 15400-RTA-003 (Mahle Japan), 15400-RAF-T01 (Mahle Thailand) S2000: 15400-PCX-306 (Mahle Thailand)), Mahle OC707 (made in Mexico or China), Mann W610/6 (made in Germany or ???), Hengst W90W25 (made in Turkey).
I cut open a new 3323 bosch filter…..the perforation of the filter media support is not made correctly….half of the perforation holes were NOT open,could not see light through them. Threw 6 new filters in garbage……
Very good point. Amazon is literally half "overseas storefronts' and sells hundreds of millions of dollars of stolen IP a year. If the OP bought the filter there or many other online stores it could very well be counterfeit.
Most companies are trying to milk their products, lower quality at higher price.
Yes, you see that a lot in food products, like chip bags that are an ounce less for the same price. Just don't expect it to be so blatant by a well respected brand like Bosch.
Thank you for allowing us to make informed decisions in regards to our vehicle parts. Excellent!
You bet!
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Wow, thank you
I agree I am not sure what going on I just bought three of them and they all had rust in them.
That's so crappy. C'mon Bosch! This is BS.
The old Bosch baseplate and ADBV is almost identical to the Blue Purolator ONE. So if you like that older design, that'd be my next move. The Wix is a great filter, but the standard wix had less filter media in the can. Though tried and true, the PureONE is probably the closest twin to the old Bosch design.
Thanks man. Appreciate the recommendation and info. The PurolatorOne filter is about the same price, but the quality looks to be way better. I'll give it a try.
@@LuckyVagabond absolutely! I've been a fan of them, and not for nothing but that new design looks like a Baldwin filter element and baseplate, which also have a good rep, but In my opinion, a downgrade from the old design.
@@kfat2290There is no need to slander Baldwin: they don’t make such shitty bypass valves as in the Mexican Bosch filter!!!
@@Andrew__Smith I'm not slandering them, they seem fine, and as I mentioned, have a great reputation. But the construction has never really impressed me. Though you're right on the bypass. It looked good to me
I'm not sure you can blame Bosch here. Bosch Premium filters have been made by M&H Purolator in the US, Fayetteville NC to be exact. Excepting the sealing gasket material, they were very similar to the current Purolator One PL14610, made in same factory. Yes, the US made were excellent filters. It's quite possible though that Mann&Hummel (M&H) owner of Purolator decided to move production of the BP to Mexico. You are correct about the Mexican made BP, it's crap as compared to US made. Fwiw, I do believe adbv on the Mex made is silicone though. As for the Wix 57356 shown, it has the Wix type base plate design but Purolator type element design now. Wix used to use base end bypass, but M&H also owner of Wix, has moved to dome bypass like Puro. The upside to that is more media area because the Wix base end bypass took up significant space in the can. So, Mexican made Bosch Premium, no beuno.
Thanks for the great insight. I used to buy the Purolator filters back 10 to 15 years ago because of the great quality, but then they got kinda pricey. The Bosch Premium filter was a good sweet spot between price and quality.
When it comes down to it, what the box says doesn't matter. There's questionable-everything being sold as "made in america". Just so you know, certain Wix filters were made overseas. And its not just Wix.
You are totally right. I bought a Wix filter for a Chevy Tahoe and it's a made Mexico piece of garbage. Overspray and rust spots everywhere.
The ADBV is silicone rubber on both. Nitrile is black. Orange means silicone rubber.
True, if you can see glue inside, that is bad, since a chunk could break off and go directly into your oil galleys.
Bosch rates a "Do Not Buy" now.
Cleanest inside and out (far less excess glue) has to be O'Reilly Autopart's "MicroGard Select" line of oil filters.
Fram Ultra tends to be pretty good inside and quality too (walmart, etc.).
I'm having a couple of Purflux LS350 (crosses to Fram Ultra XG7317 for Honda) (France) oil filters shipped from Latvia ports to the U.S.(ebay) because they are clean inside and have about 50% more filter media surface area inside, and of course silicone ADBV, a must-have.
Great comment man. I just ordered some Denso filters to see what they look like. I like the Wix filters a lot, but want to see other options, especially at lower price points. Bosch is unfortunately, like you said, a DO NOT BUY.
i allways recommend knecht/mahle,mann or hengst filters,they are oem parts.
I haven't tried any of those brands. Aren't they German brands? Would seem kinda odd on a Honda...
@@LuckyVagabond Germany company Mahle makes most of the OEM Honda oil filters in Japan or Thailand, but they are built differently to Mahle-branded oil filters for the application. You can get Hengst or Mann too, good quality, but as you say they are more commonly OE on Audi or Mercedes and it's kind of strange to run it on a Honda. Anyway these are the part numbers: Honda (standard: 15400-RTA-003 (Mahle Japan), 15400-RAF-T01 (Mahle Thailand) S2000: 15400-PCX-306 (Mahle Thailand)), Mahle OC707 (made in Mexico or China), Mann W610/6 (made in Germany or ???), Hengst W90W25 (made in Turkey).
Go with the FRAM
I hear they are pretty good ( he said with a smirk on his face) lol
Lol! I'm not sure how Fram has been able to sell such inferior filters for so many decades. Thanks for the laugh.
Friends don't let friends use Fram.
I cut open a new 3323 bosch filter…..the perforation of the filter media support is not made correctly….half of the perforation holes were NOT open,could not see light through them. Threw 6 new filters in garbage……
Incredible how Bosch let a great product go to complete trash. Ugh.
I just discovered this on a Bosch 3323 also, most of the internal support tubes opening are closed, this would have to impede oil flow.
Junk filter at this point.
@@LuckyVagabond I went with the Fram XG7317 , very well made filter.
@@spartus56996 can't do a Fram. Bad taste in my mouth from the crappy filters they made in the past. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Have you heard this word: *counterfeit* ???
I mean, is there really any money in counterfeiting a $5 oil filter. Not sure it would even be worth the effort to counterfeit.
Very good point. Amazon is literally half "overseas storefronts' and sells hundreds of millions of dollars of stolen IP a year. If the OP bought the filter there or many other online stores it could very well be counterfeit.
I gave up on Mexico garbage years ago. See if their is a Mann crossover. What a shame where corporate greed has become.
Yes, total shame they ruined this filter.
Do you repair honda cars?
Just my own
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@@eriksony6398 I use a cheap Bluetooth scanner and app.