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Launching a console isn't easy, It's incredibly easy to mess things up, to the point some manage to do it so badly it ends up severely damaging or in some cases totally destroying the entire company, Larry takes a look at five such examples!
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I won a nintendo wii in a contest and was supposed to receive it on launch day in November. I got it in March lol.
That's awful, but congrats nevertheless!
John Shreve Technically you could have slapped the promoters with a lawsuit then.
Poison yes
Richie Sahlin they had no control. they were promised stock, nintendo didn't deliver.
It was a 7-11 Slurpee contest if I remember right.
4:31 the Atari 5800. Larry, you never told us you had the secret Atari console the kids on the playground are talking about.
Fun Fact
the shell-mould of the Atari Jaguar was reused for Dentist equipment
And if the Falcon 040 had made it to production, the PS2 would have looked rather different.
@M J The Falcon 030 was released. It was sold for about a year, but they removed it from sale to focus on the Jaguar
I still spit in my jaguar after brushing my teeth
yep. I saw it when i got a tooth pulled. It was white though.
@M J have not heard of that
R.I.P. to the histories world's greatest game console known to all man
DREAMCAST
:(
I loved that thing too.
Got me right in the feels, bro.
Yeah no. The Dreamcast might be tied with the Genesis as Sega's best system. But it does not compare to the OG Xbox or even the PS2.
Igorowan neither of which can casually chat or browse the internet........ come on now don't be ignorant just say you don't know what you're talking about
+igorowan
Eh, OG Xbox was garbage IMO especially the original controller, but you have a point with the PS2, but that's like comparing a good sandwich to an elegant high price filet mignon.
Sony - "300$" *drops mic. Walks away* Legendary
Larry delivers the quality facts again
Mr. Googly 599 US dollars
What a shame, they started with a mic drop worthy win and then fucked it up in 2006 with the 599 bullshit.
idiots.
Actually took place in ancient Japan
LeviathanRX Complete with “real-time weapons change” and giant enemy crabs!
SkyTech RTS they did it right with the PS4 price though.
Every time he says "Hello you!" he makes me feel so special
Warrior Dawg Hey, he's talking to me!😲
He's talking to everyone
Warrior Dawg I know, I was joking.😂😂😂
I think it might be a reference to a UK sitcom called 'Extras'
Hello, you!
... yeah, I know that's not the same...
It's a true shame that Larry doesn't have more subs. I do understand he doesn't produce enough content to draw in a steady stream of new viewers and subs, but his overall content is truly interesting and original
Every time I hear his “hello you!” I SMILE SO WIDE.
I think no list of botched console launches is complete without the 3DO Interactive Multiplayer. The thing came out in the US in 1993 with a price of $699 ($1,074.93 adusted for inflation) and had only one game (Crash & Burn) on the shelves at launch!
not as botched as the Saturn's launch.
In fact, it did crash and burn!
... I know the chief engineer for that
You could literally buy both a genesis and SNES along with some of their games with that money
It ain’t no Mario 64
What a fantastic concept for a Fact Hunt video, Larry! I love how the game says "Perfect!" when the guy breaks his TV. Lolz.
I feel like I've seen you on a livestream somewhere
Nvm it was on The Completionist's Bubsy video.
Hmmm...I've only livestreamed once last weekend. It was a 24 (26 with bonus time) stream for a charity called "Extra Life." Raised almost $500 for children's hospitals! :)
Edit: Ah yes, I referenced the stream in my comment on The Completionist's video on Bubsy simply because it was my highest donation to STOP playing that game, ha!
You must be cool though since we have the same taste in TH-camrs! :)
That Bald Gamer I do hate to see tech killed...unless it's a iphone
That Bald Gamer That's a really cool thing to do. Great that it raised so much money. 👍
FishySquidMan And while not necessarily prompt with replies, you're a really cool chap yourself ;D
I love when that guy kills his TV with the Wii remote. LOL
PERFECT
Seriously, who does that? Even if you're not using the wrist strap, have people never held anything before?
I love how he seems to be crying "Ma!" and then patting the TV as if it can somehow get better. 🤣
The disastrous launch of the Saturn would not spell the end of the problems for the poor system. From what I heard, the Playstation was actually struggling when it first launched in the U.S. This was thanks to having Bernard "Bernie the Bastard" Stolar at the wheel, who would abuse his veto power to deny localization of various Japanese games, most notably RPGs, and pushing sports title instead, a genre that was getting rather unpopular at the time. In fact, the Playstation almost never got Final Fantasy 7 because of him, but Sony Computer Entertainment executives acted quickly and were able to oust him before he ruined everything. A gang of yakuzas breaking into his office and broken knee caps may or may not have been involved. So where did Bernie go after he was rightfully kicked out at Sony? Well, coincidence of all coincidences, Kalinsky just so happened to have left SEGA of America at the time, leaving his post as CEO vacant. So what did SEGA do? Why, they put the guy who got fired from Sony in charge of their company, of course, where Bernie proceeded to do the exact same thing he did at Sony. Veto a bunch of Japanese games, mostly 2D games, in favor of sports titles, completely failing to take advantage of the system's greatest strength.
And that's not getting into the communication problems that were happening between SEGA of America and SEGA of Japan at the time, which were a giant mess in and of itself. I'm not entirely certain, but from what I hear, part of the problem was because the CEO of SEGA of Japan was jealous of how the American branch was able to make the Genesis such a success in the west, when he repeatedly failed to make the Mega Driver a proper contender for the SNES in its home market.
Really, you could make an entire episode detailing everything that went wrong with the Saturn.
It's a shame, because it was actually a great system with an excellent library of games. I have fonder memories of playing on the Saturn than any console before or since.
to be fair, the Saturn couldn't do 3D that well
@@GiordanDiodato Yes, but 3D games from its time have mostly aged much worse than the 2D ones.
@@MicroChirp nah the stolar hate is because loudmouth idiot Victor Ireland had a spat with the guy
@MicroChirp And your point is? 3D was the future and the PS1 could do it better.
There's something comforting about how I can safely hope there will be a potshot against Peter Molyneux
It's amazing when you remember that the PS3/Xbox/Wii are a whole decade old now.
I grew up in the 7th generation with my family having owned all three major home consoles and the DS at one point or another. I loved my Wii... how much I would give to have another one.
Tyler Larsen They're extremely cheap now! Dunno about getting extra cables + remotes but the loose console is only like $15! C'mon and mod it and play some CTGP too!
@@idontcheckmynotifications I assumed they meant what they wouldn't give to have the feelings associated with playing the Wii for the first time.
Because the alternative does sound a tad silly considering how common they are. :P
Now 15
Damn... I stop counting how much the original Atari company refused to pay someone on your show :/
Dreamcast had very shoddy distribution in Sweden, me and a buddy went from store to store asking until we finally found a couple of units in an obscure toy store. So even before we forked over the cash we knew the machine was bound to become a failure, but it had some great games. Totally worth it.
It's worth noting the 5200 controllers were self centering... sort of. The rubber boot was supposed to keep things centered, and when it's secured and in good shape it *does*, but over time, much like the rest of the controller, it doesn't hold up well.
I know this is an old post but do you know how long the 5200 controllers would have stayed functional when new? People act like the controllers broke after an hour of play but I doubt that is the case.
Nothing like hearing about Sega Japan tanking their company because of international jealousy. It really should be taught as a cautionary tale for all MBA students. "If you hire experts, don't get all butt hurt when they do expert things, cause you'll cause a 'can't-lose' brand to fold." Then again people will ignore it cause Sega didn't really die, it just started the drought they never recovered from. Glad this one was number one.
SEGA of Japan did NOT tank their country.
Nice catch, edited that. Holy crap was that a dumb use of auto correct. Sorry about that.
Probably because the Saturn was outselling the PS1 in Japan (at least until a little game called Final Fantasy VII was released). So... I dunno why they would have jealousy.
SEGA: ...the Sega Saturn will be $399 at retail stores!
*Later*
Sony: $299
Audience: *Cheers*
$299 with no games or memory cards
@@GiordanDiodato
$399 for a console that would be dead within a couple of years.
Same reason the 360 was by far the most successful Xbox and console in America that generation. I'm glad Sony turned around the PS3 and has dominated with the PS4 like they did with PS1 & 2. I really liked the 360, but Sony just has the exclusives!
even with the Ps1's own shortcomings, this was one hell of a power move that immediately showed Sega "You guys fcked up."
history on this wil lalso note that it wasnt sony that killed the Saturn..Sega of Japan did.
@@bubblegumxo pretty sure the Wii was way more successful
Larry had to change the thumbnail after people assuming that the Nintendo Switch would be mentioned here.
You could say that this video's upload was... 'botched'.
every time you put up peter's face, his mouth appears smaller and smaller...eventually I expect it'll be just a dot by next year
It's to silence his lies
And he'll must scream...
More lies.
That is the real Doomsday Clock.
I saw this comment and had to go back and double check, I never even noticed it. I think my brain has just come to accept that is how he normally looks now.
evolution in action
I think that the Wii shortage really fed into the 360's initial success. Tons of parents in the United States couldn't get a Wii for their kids and didn't want to shell out the cash for the then expensive PS3, so a lot of families settled for a 360. I was one of them. I remember sitting in overnight line after overnight line trying to get my hands on a Wii. Every time I went to the shops they would only stock like 3-10. The lines were also insanely long so even being towards the front of a huge line wouldn't exactly guarantee you a Wii. So my family settled with the Xbox 360. Which honestly was a terrible decision. We didn't have an HD television yet so playing the games was a challenge sometimes (looking at you DeadRising) and the early consoles for 360 were terrible. By the end of my two year manufacturers warranty, I had already shipped the Xbox to Microsoft 3 times for Red Ring problems. It even took like a month for the whole process to go through with all the shipping. They then extended my warranty for another two years and I still had to send the Xbox back in an additional two times (not including the time they shipped me back a non working console). Oh and did I mention it would disc burn games? Almost every game I owned I bought at least twice because the disc drive would leave this weird ring around the center of the discs that would render them completely useless.
In the long run, the 360 had a great run and produced some pretty great consoles that would last for years, but in my experience the early launch consoles were terrible and it really wasn't worth the grief.
TLDR: Still salty I didn't get a Wii.
Cool story bro
DeNiro Morales Thanks for the sarcastic compliment my dude. Means a lot coming from you.
Damn that terribly sucks. Very bad decision indeed 😫
I didn't get my Wii until the year after release, but I didn't know it existed lmao so I got in the hype a little late
wasn't the 360 a few years old by the time the wii dropped?
wow, makes me feel lucky I started out with a Wii then :P I believe my parents actually just somehow managed to get one for that christmas. I still have it, it's just sitting in a box :P
I know they always say GameCube was a failure but I absolutely loved my GameCube and games such as Viewtiful Joe
Samee! Gamecube was my childhood so i have an attachment to it lol
Me, too. I think a big part of why it didn't sell well was just that the PS2 came out around the same time, I guess? Idk.
@@jackhammer4499 This. In terms of sales, the PS2 destroyed everyone else. And it's STILL the top selling console of all time.
I'm sorry, theres a company named Areola Soft? Was Nipple Works already taken?
Actually yes, there is an enterprise in Detroit named Detroit Nipple Works, which is a supplier and manufacter of pipes for sewers
@@DarkAnon100 XD That's hilarious.
"I LOST THE CONSOLE LAUNCH TO RNG, DUDE!"
"VTF!!??"
"BUGGY RETAIL MECHANICS!"
Damn you, Larry. I was fixing to go to sleep.
No sleep for you >:D
Get back in my R&D department, you old fuck
Trying living on this planet xD
Finna sleep
Areola Soft has got to be a WatchMojo plagiarism trap.
It's Ariolasoft, look it up.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Something something
Peter Molyneux
Roses are red,
violets are blue,
who gives a shit about
Peter Molyneux?
plasticbutler Roses are red
Violets are blue
I came for the Peter Molyneux joke
And so did you
It's not an episode of fact hunt without a jab at Peter molyneux
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Giant floppy dild0
Peter Molyneux
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Who’s a big piece of shit!
Peter molyneux
I was kinda hoping XBOX One would be on here. I mean sure it's a success, but I remember all the shit they got for announcing there'd be no physical copies of games, backwards compatibility wasn't supported, the Kinect would be recording the room it faced at all times, and the cherry on top? It required internet access 24/7 in order to verify "ownership" of games for its system (I quote that, because with no physical copies, Microsoft openly stated that gamers were buying licenses to play the game, and did not own the game itself).
I mean a lot of these issues have been resolved, but the shit storm it created was brilliant. Plus at E3 the PS4 totally blew XBONE out of the water with its presentation.
vjm3 Yeah, although it is kind of better than having Xbox 360 fry itself to death.
CovertBrony Like my slow Toshiba laptop with a recalled battery!
don't forget that most of Europe had to wait and extra year until it was finally released.
vjm3 Sega Master System Europe launch was a success too with a botched launch so I think Xbox One should be on this list.
Personally I feel like they botched that launch real badly with the announcement.
Well, considering how you have to download the entire 40-50 GB game to your hard drive the moment you put in the disc does kind of discourage the "used games" aspect of the Xbox one, suppose Microsoft was going somewhere with that one. :P
...
Also, an update for the controller.... fucking really?!?
Remember when the PS3 was originally going to be jet silver with a crescent moon shaped controller? Basically it was going to be Marvel Moon Knight themed console if you think about it.
I've never heard people describe it as a crescent moon. Everyone just called it the banana controller. I kind of wish they released the controller as a joke. Not standard in every system, just something you can buy off store shelves. I would've loved to get a feel for it.
Fuck, I remember that like it was yesterday.
I was like 11 or 12 when those early ideas were being shown off and I was worried that the games would be hard to control with that controller shape. (though by that point I was an N64 veteran so...)
Really? I always heard it being called 'the boomerang'
I would have loved to have seen them too. I'm not a fan of the Playstation controller, and each new one seems like a minor variant of the last.
I get why they dropped it, but it would have been fun to mess around with. And maybe it'd even let me see if what I hate about playstation controllers is the shape, or something else about them.
(after all that PS3 design still had all the same buttons, and is still Sony... But the shape is vastly different.)
Yup I remember it
+felman87 A 3rd party company actually did make a controller with the same exact design as the unreleased ps3 controller, but for the ps2.
"to anyone in France everytime they say yes". OMFG
That was super hilarious xD
I actually have fond memories of the 7800. It was my first console (not counting the hand-me-down generic pong from my uncle). My grandmother bought us one sometime around 89/90, they must have been desperate to sell them as it came with 5 or 6 games packed in.
Congrats on 300k subs, well deserved
Thanks dude, finally got there in the end!
took too long given how much work he puts into his vids.
Wow... I never really looked at that. Larry deserves a lot more.
Oh hey you know him
oh yeah, been a larry fan for a long time
Holy Moly.. every time I see you post a vid, everything else gets put on the backburner... LBJ is the Ultimate Treat
Aw, bless you!
That awkward moment you try to figure out whether "LBJ" is referring to President Lyndon Baines Johnson or LeBron James, and then it's neither. That said, I enjoy a lot of the videos too.
That first story should have been titled "The Beginning of Atari's Downfall."
The beginning of their downfall was when Jack Tremiel bought the computer/console division. Guy was a cheapskate whose stinginess led to a number of poor decisions and ultimately the company's failure to adapt with the computer market. If Tramiel was a bit less tight-fisted, the Jaguar may have even ended up not being a flop
@@BroadwayRonMexico I had a jaguar and jag cd. I liked it but eventually moved on to playstation.
I recalled after waiting on hold all day being shocked they had no C compiler.
@@BroadwayRonMexico didnt he join Atari after getting kicked out of Commodore
@@DestinyZX1 yeah. The ST's design was even pretty much stolen from Commodore on his way out
Blame on Hayao Nakayama for rushing the SEGA Saturn to America.
If it weren't for him, Tom Kalinske would still have been president of Sega of America, and Bernie Stolar (who was only there because of Nakayama's arrogance) wouldn't even be there at all.
Do an episode where the entire thing is just an extremely long Peter Moleneux joke
Funny you should say that... :D
That would be a *great* April fools joke!
Top 5 Fake Molyneuxs
Isn't that already the entire series?
Could do an entire movie on his fable promises.
Larry you absolute maniac, the comments are going to be in flames over the thumbnail choice for this video!
I still have my Wii that I bought on launch day and I'm in the UK :)
Barely any games though...
The Wii U could have literally been called the Wii 2 and it would've done SO MUCH BETTER.
maybe.
The Wii U was poorly advertised to the point that most people thought it was an add-on.
Third party support would have been far better. Gotta love the stupidity of EA on that one. They ported Mass Effect 3 after it was already released on other systems and everyone kept going with their original console because they could transfer their character.
So the game tanked, EA blamed Nintendo, and then stopped supporting them.
4:32 "The Atari 5800." Now I want to see that console.
"Atari 5800?! NEW ATARI CONSOLE NAME LEAKED!"
I noticed that.
What the hell did you do to his lips?
He ate a whole tube of hemorrhoid ointment.
Probably some image warping that's available on his movie editor. I know that kind of tech is available on most more-complicated-than-Microsoft-Paint image editors. Look up "Woll Smoth" for a reference on how image warping can work.
Heh, I knew that... it was just an jokingly exaggerated reaction aimed towards pointing out that we, the viewers, have noticed and found it amusing ;) Thanks for the info anyway! Cheers!
Looks totally normal for Moly to me
Reminds me of my cats arse.
I was happy to see you actually pointed out the Panther. What you missed was that the Panther hardware was the foundation of the Jaguar, which meant the Jaguar developers had to debug not only their new systems, but those of the predecessor as well!
When Hasbro bought Atari, they released the Jaguar custom chip files, and I studied them in detail, discovering that the memory controller, blitter and GPU cache controller all were from the Panther. This lack of debugging of the Panther was a critical failure, as the forementioned memory management unit did not work, at all, resulting in the GPU and sound DSP being unable to access the system memory directly. Had the Panther been released (late 1991 likely) they would have fixed this system breaking bug long before Jaguar had to deal with it. And, you guessed it - because the Jaguar had the Panthers custom chips, all Panther games would have been 100% backwards compatible. So, the Jaguar had backwards compatibility for a console that never released.
Thank you Larry. Had an awful day today and this cheered me up!
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What game is at 00:43?
Larry Bundy Jr if there's a game version of this wild arms must be on the list... solid rpg, a pioneer of the full motion camera, and had it's own series, but not many would remember it. If it wasn't released a week after final fantasy 7, it might of been big...
Geo Belmont Wild Arms was actually released first in Japan on December 20th 96, FF7 released on January 30th 97. Even in the NA, Wild Arms released April 30th 97, and FF7 released on September 7th 97...
Wild Arms wasn't promoted as heavily by Sony however, and once FF7 did come out, it definitely overshadowed it in both countries.
DoctorZack huh, was i always wrong about that? ok, my bad. however, i am referring to the pal releases as i am from the uk and wild arms wasn’t released here until october 1st 1998. this was still 11 months after pal ff7 (and it’s not lost on me that i probably miss read 1 year as1 week). people probably saw the 3d battles and were put off by the then dated 3d characters.
wild arms pal release date from vgchartz.com btw
Xbox One launch was also a failure in most European countries. It was November 22, 2013 in some countries but September 2, 2014 in the rest.
"I'm bored asf right now." Checks youtube, Larry Bundy Jr has me covered XD
Thanking you kindly :)
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I remember SEGA signing a deal with Standa here in Italy, the biggest department store company in the country at the time, and getting huge coverage on the onwer's TV channels, Mediaset, with famous actors and football players regularly featuring in the commercials for the Master System, Game Gear and Mega Drive.
New upload from Larry at 3:15am? Fuck sleep, fact hunt important!
Ampharosite what exactly is the mineral composition of Ampharosite? Please give me your knowledge
Jade Tortoise It is composed of electricity. Electricity and glorious hair.
Ampharosite ah ok, i thought so, thank you, i feel enlightened. That hair is dope though😍
So Nintendo failed to understand the concept of supply and demand leading to shortages and scalpers ramping up prices.
Shocker.
Considering both times happened after the relative failure of a console, it's an easy mistake to make. Why invest so much in making tons of units before getting any feedback when the last console just didn't warrant that much supply? It's perfectly reasonable for them not to take a major risk like that.
YokusaHHart Nintendo understands the concept of supply and demand, they're just really bad at predicting supply - which is not as easy as you might think.
Remember that overproducing the consoles is not something a company wants either. They got burned badly with overstocks during the Virtual Boy.
SonicSP Same thing happened with the Wii U after launch. They actually had to store Wii Us in their own warehouses for a while.
with how many people criticize them, I'm surprised they even buy Nintendo systems
Conspiracy theorist think that Nintendo intentionally under produces their product in order to create more demand.
I love how this poor chap want to fix his tv by tapping top of the tv. Priceless.
Love the cameo by Hiroshi Fujioka (Takeshi Hongo/Kamen Rider 1) in the final spot!
Aren't "bad luck" and "factors that are totally outside your control" the same thing?
Jack M Not necessarily. Factors outside control does not denote whether it's good or bad.
$399 on the Saturn’s US release and since the dollar at the time was worth between £0.5 and £0.75, they decided the UK release price would be... £399. Inexcusable (and yet manufacturers still do it even now).
and Sega of Europe hated Sega of Japan for doing that.
And more or less gave Sega of America (and Sega of Japan) the middle finger since they published Shining Wisdom and Dragon Force as first-party titles (rather than having Working Designs publish it) and changed the music to Shinobi Legions when all 3 games came over to Europe.
We had a Sega Saturn before we got a PS1. I absolutely love the Saturn and wish my console still worked. “Mr. Bones” is one of my all-time favorite games.
Larry, you are one of the best at what you do! Another fact-filled, badass video. Can't believe the Master System sold so poorly here in the US. I remember one time my mom bought me Altered Beast for the master system at a yard sale but It would not work on my Genesis and I had no clue why.
Sega of Japan: We need more time for the Saturn!
Kalinske: Okay, I get it.
(Later, at the first E3)
Kalinske: Surprise! We're doing it now!
Everyone: Excuse me what the fu-
On the contrary. Kalinske wanted more time, but the order to launch came straight from big boss Hayao Nakayama.
Hey Larry, good to have you back.
Thanks bud, I said I'd be back :D
Larry Bundy Jr Seen a Kosdff's old video, and seen your 2 year old comment.
Nice job using the Segata Sanshiro theme music at the final entry Guru Larry! It fits as much as it could! Also, I like you showed a clip from one of the SEGA Saturn advertisement comercials in Japan featuring Segata Sanshiro! Rest in peace Segata Sanshiro...you'll always be remembered by us...
9:59 "Ooh, yeah, that disaster, I wonder what he'll say about-"
10:03 "KITTY!... what was I talking about again?"
sega santshiro is sega's kiru kazama of the yakuza series even they join up in project X zone 2 on 3ds
*Segata Sanshiro.
You're cool Larry! These videos are fun! It sucks that Sega had to launch the Saturn too early because our Walmart and other big name stores didn't sell the Saturn, and developers didn't want to make games for it, since wasn't selling well and hard to program.
I will never get tired of that one gag where he makes fun of Peter.
I'm sure you could do a sequel to this. There's the Amiga CD32, Panasonic 3DO, Sega Dreamcast, and probably a couple more that I can't think of.
I got a Saturn this Christmas. I love it to death and I wish I had more games for it. It had so much potential, but couldn't do anything with it.
Nice, You can buy a cartridge adaptor for it now that lets you play import and copied games for the saturn now!
It did get far more hate than it deserved.
Well, I’ll be looking forward to the follow up to this vid.
We all know about the buggered-up release of the Switch, and the less said about the Wii U the better.
It's 2023 and I have still never played a Saturn - the closest I ever got was a Crazy Taxi arcade cabinet and even that was probably more like Dreamcast-era hardware. None of my friends had a Saturn, until years later one guy got into collecting and finally bought a Saturn in... 2012.
That was the same guy who travelled 30 miles for his Wii, got there, was told lolsorry we don't have one, he was like eh are you having a laugh... and they found one for him. I know another guy who went down to Gamestation with his mates after a night in the pub and basically camped out trying to get one.
I was in the front lines for the Saturn launch. My first job in highschool(and part of college) was at Babbages. I knew about the secret release a day early when my boss asked me to stay late to get the displays setup and even pretended to be my dad and called me in sick from school the next day so I could work the whole day. I think we sold one system that day(not counting the one my manager bought me as a thank you for the hard work and ditching school for him).
I'll be really fair. This is one Fact Hunt I never thought you would cover but I'll be honest, never expected this. It's still well done and I love every bit of it.
#5: Atari were the ones that became household names and were also responsible for the video game crash, sort of. Had the 7800 been released then maybe, just maybe... the gaming industry would recover but nope. Incompetence is to blame. Go figure.
#4: I didn't get my Wii until months after it came out. The surprising thing is that it was by pure luck. And that clip... oh my god. That idiot who broke his own TV. Perfect choice. Anyway the Wii was a hit but then it was filled with shovelware up the wazoo.
#3: I never owned a Master System but I had absolutely NO idea that in Europe, the launch was a massive bomb. Geez Louise! I wonder if that was the sign that SEGA would slowly go downhill.
#2: The Jaguar. No wonder it was such a bomb and the fact that the console couldn't even make it be a 64-bit console. Shoddy advertising, poor console support and it pretty much was the end for Atari as a console manufacturer. Tramiel and his family wanted out and Atari merged with JTS, a hardware manufacturer.
#1: SEGA done fucked it up bad! Let's also not forget that they had so many consoles released that well, they oversaturated their own market, despite the Saturn being a hit in Japan. They had the Saturn, Master System, Pico, 32X, Genesis, Game Gear, Nomad, Sega CD... good god. 8 systems. Saturn's botched launch not only did a lot of damage to SEGA as a whole but it also ended the lifespans of almost every single console they made. And let's not forget Bernie Stolar and his bs draconian policies. Fuck that guy. No wonder he got fired a month before the Dreacmast's release because SEGA knew the guy was a bad egg.
"Atari were the ones who started console gaming". Nope. That was the Magnavox Odyssey, in September of 1972.
I know that. I made an edit.
Yeah Bernie Stolar is the reason we didn't get street of rage 4 and also was a no third party, no 2D game kind of guy. Because of him America (as well as Europe) didn't get some of the best games on the system.
Yep. They should have truthfully fired him sooner when SEGA knew they were fucking up badly with the Saturn.
the pico shouldn't even be mentioned as it was never a gaming system, just a sega product. it's clear evidence you're stretching to make a point that doesn't exist. the nomad was a portable genesis and had no actual releases, the 32x and segacd were addons and not systems. you could have included the CDX as well... you're talking about hardware that enabled different experiences like they were just the same shit in a different package.
nintendo had the same or better number of systems if the criteria are so lax. include stuff that never made it to market, but was at the trade shows and in the mags, and nintendo was worse... at least sega delivered.
shit moved fast back then, you can't judge the 90s market by today's standards... hell, even we have ps4 pros and xbox one xs, and those benefits are FAR less pronounced.
>6:00
>Must-new have item
Notice how we never see Larry and Superman in the same place at the same time...really makes you think doesn't it.
I knew the Saturn would be number one on this list. I was actually working for Software Etc at the time that it launched, and I remember how dismal sales were. Despite this, it's still one of my favorite systems. Some great games were released on that console, and I spent many happy hours playing it. I really would have preferred to see it do better. But them's the breaks, I guess.
Oh my god my brother has actually broken a TV that way. Except he threw the Wiimote out of rage after losing a game.
I can't really blame Nintendo for understocking the Wii at launch. It's the exact same scenario as what happened to the Switch. The previous console was a relative failure, so why would they go all in on producing tons of the next console just in case it's a hit?
Yep. Better to the underproduce than overproduce and be left with unsold stock.
Investors and stock holdes prefer an empty stock over thousands of units laying around.
So all this time, Nintendo was playing it cautiously and cleverly?
@@chaoscontroller316 I wouldn't say clever. They'd get more if they had more manufactured to sell. But their caution in both cases was pretty understandable with the poor reception of the Wii U and the Gamecube.
Even if it's sad news, anything said while the Segata Sanshirou song is playing sounds so motivating.
That Sega Saturn story was so heartbreaking. If only they had more time to promote it, and make deals with retailers, it would've had a fighting chance. I mean the N64 came out much later, and it still did well.
Looking good with those 300K subscribers.
Nana-Kyoto Looking horrible with that profile pic.
Drake Well, that's a first.
Hi again
Nana-Kyoto Yikes that was a bit rude...by the way, I've seen you around in the comments on a lot of TH-camrs I like...You must be pretty cool if we have the same tastes! ^_^
"I have a DreamCast"
-- Martin Luther King Junior.
Keep it tacky.
/replays "Hello You" over and over again after last week, taking a shower in Larry's soothing amicable voice to wash away Dan's tartish hooliganism.
Wow, I never knew the 7800 had outsold the SMS in North America, that sounds so weird...
Also, I kind of expected the TurboGrafx-16 to be on the list somewhere... I mean its delayed and poorly marketed launch pretty much did the console in, because of the disappointing early sales NEC of Japan gave up on the system in North America, and it unfortunately never stood a chance again...
Lol, glad Atari lost to Sega and Nintendo. Otherwise we'd keep holding the controllers wrong.
(When the trash comments that say "never clicked on a video so fast in my life!" actually apply)
I know, right?
This still seems like a trash comment trying not to seem like a trash comment
Son of Tiamat i realized it as soon as i commented, should have put more emphasis on how cringy it is
Yeah, it is pretty cringey. And I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I hate seeing the same comments
Never clicked on a video so fast
I was just about to go to bed
I stopped watching porn/jerking off for this
*random, disgusting sexually provocative comment*
First
/notification squad
The Jaguar was made in computer factories that had never made consoles before? That explains SO much.
Oh Jesus the Peter cameo KILLS me every time. That's comic timing there folks.
mostly accurate video haha - covering monster fuck-ups is the Larry Bundy Jr special :D
but.. putting the switch in the thumbnail is massive clickbait, switch launch was pretty great
Sato Actually it wasn't. The first consoles had huge problems with connection to the controllers, both physical and wireless, and the screen seemed to be a poor material.
There was a small batch of left joycons that had issues syncing with the Switch (that Nintendo replaced for free if you sent them in) and some screens had dead pixels (Nintendo dropped the ball with their support statement on this).
The problems however were overblown (much like with an console launch) and were not nearly as widespread as people and the press made them out to be. This was no red ring of death.
James Alexander True, but you are forgetting two problems a lot of people brought up that I can remember
1 joycons literally getting stuck into components when put in backwards, without much indication that it was backwards.
2 deep screen gouges from the mount
I don't doubt this was relatively minor, but my friends and I knew immediately we would not be getting one for a long while.
SgtKOnyx Ah yes, the joycon straps. Putting them on upside down is a hard thing to do they don't slide right on backwards you have to force it in and there are markings on the straps that line up with the plus/minus buttons. Also why the hell would the wrist strap itself be on the top of the of the controller if your wrist is on the bottom? If you do manage to put it on incorrectly don't fret, simply grab a toothpick and undo the locking mechanism. A kid figured this out and made a video on it.
As for your screen scratches, that had to do with a small batch of docks that came bent. It's the same deal as with the left joycon just send it into Nintendo and they'll give you a new dock. I do have to question how widespread this issue was though seeing as a lot of the videos on the screen scratches had horizontal scratches when you dock the switch in vertically. I will say that since the screen is plastic (so it won't shatter like glass since kids will be using it) a screen protector may be a good option for you. I personally don't have one though and my screen only has one scratch (from when I dropped my switch on concrete).
Edit
I missed the last bit of your comment. Now I just feel like an ass somewhat. I guess I gave you some valuable information if you ever get a switch though.
Rachel Mazurek No I've never heard of that issue. The Switch has an emergency shutoff temperature of roughly 70°C. That's way to low to do any harm to the system. The plastic that the switch uses won't even soften at that temperature.
How's the top 10 worst game theory videos by matpat video coming?
JoeTheSchmoe I'm sure Larry will say this is all for good fun.
Me in University:
-Need to write an Essay
-Need to sleep
-Need to write book reports
-It’s 2:07 AM
-New episode of Fact Hunt is uploaded.
-Cancels all plans and sleep to watch video.
6:48
In 2007, Sacremento California, a woman named Jennifer Strange was so desperate to win a Wii she participated in a water drinking contest. She drank so much water trying to get the impossible to find system that she died. She didn't even win, she had came in second place in the contest.
Determination, indeed.
I swear to God someone should make a compilation of Larry's Peter Molynoux jokes.
8:30 did you say areola-soft? areola as in the ring of skin around a nipple...?
Areolas? Wasn't he a brazilian goalkeeper?
I was working at Gamestop in 2007 when the Wii came out. I was there, Gandalf...the day the strength of men failed...
We had people threatening us, offering us money under the table to save them one, FOLLOWING UPS DELIVERY TRUCKS. We had to start locking our doors when the UPS delivery would come to make sure they weren't followed around by people. It was awful.
This was great! I knew a few of the facts but the majority was news to me, great list! Really looking forward to the Dreamcast episode! :)
Surprised you didn't mention the Wii U, for the name which confused consumers, the 8 to 32GBs of internal storage, lack of SD card support, and for the tablet gamepad which jacked up the price and made it comparatively powerful to the Xbox 360.
Actually, the Wii U's launch was probably the best part of its entire sales cycle. If I recall correctly it sold really well its first holiday, but then fell off afterwards.
Edit: For those wondering I looked it up. According to IGN (maybe not the most reliable) the Wii U sold close to 2.5 million to 3 million units in its first couple months.
Clbull118 I would say Wii U was a bad console as opposed to a bad launch. Some of the consoles here were good but had horrendous mistakes made at launch.
SonicSP A bad console? Arguably yes, especially when comparing specs and utility to that of the competition, but I surprisingly had more fun on my Wii u this past generation than on my Xbox One.
Annoying Frenzy
To be considered a good console you need some quantity of actual games for it.
Sam Leslie Haha, I get it, but I don't care so much about how many games the console had, just that it has games I actually enjoy. Which it had in spades.
And this is why Brit youtubers are hard to follow. It's 11 PM and I have to watch as soon as the notification gets.
12pm here
try harder
you from Newfoundland and Labrador?
The old dude busting his TV was too funny. They had wristbands for a reason!
One from overseas for you:
Dreamcast launch in Australia. The Dreamcast launch in Australia was organized through Australian importer Ozisoft. Due to their incompetence, launch day duly arrived and consumers were able to buy a Dreamcast console, but nothing else. All of the software and additional peripherals were sitting in a customs warehouse awaiting customs clearance. In addition, although branded on the box as internet ready, Ozisoft hadn't finalised the deal with the dominant Telco for internet connections, so even if customers had access to games, at launch they couldn't go online to use any online capability. Unsurprisingly launch sales were abysmal, given that customers could buy a console but couldn't use it until an unknown time in the future when the games would clear customs and then be distributed to retailers. Dreamcast sales in Australia never really recovered from this initial disaster and were always poor across the consoles lifespan.
"Ooooops, we underproduced our console AGAIN despite knowing exactly how many preorders we have! Heaven forfend people want it more now because they can't have it! This is a tragedy for us, Nintendo, a bunch of twats who love money! We'll have to produce some more at our leisure for the cloying masses! And just in time for Christmas! This is awful for us, Nintendo!"
I think the PlayStation 3 should've been on this list. Especially when you consider:
1. The infamous E3 2006 event ("Giant enemy crab", anyone?).
2. The insane launch price of $599. Even then, Sony made a huge loss for every console sold.
3. Poor 3rd party support at launch, thanks in part to the Cell Processor being difficult to program for.
4. The XBOX 360 having a year head start.
The only saving grace for the PS3 at the time was that it was the cheapest Blu-Ray player at launch, killing Microsoft's HD-DVD in the process.
They were also really slow at getting out their exclusive AAA games. Especially compared to the 360. What saved them was bringing the price down and then pumping out all of the great games the PS3 is known for now. And at the same time MS stopped focusing on releasing good exclusives and started focusing on shitty Kinect games.
Didn't notice that before?
It was the first thing I said to my mom the day she brought our 7800 home!
We already had a 2600 and 5200, and I had figured out the "equation" before we even got a 7800!
I remember the European Wii drought of 2006... I remember wanting one so bad, and they being nowhere, that I took two busses and a train to buy a wii from someone who had one listed on a website but didn't trust mailing the thing. Now, 2nd hand electronic stores are so overstocked, they can't give them away.