+1 for Starmie, I'll mention that it's what speedrunners use. People who unlock all 4 regions on tons of accounts do it by using a level 20 starmie to start on each region, and teach it Thunderbolt and Ice Beam via TMs (which does cost 45k, but you make up for that from the time you save in the run) and then you just cruise through the storyline with a single pokémon. The main thing is the high SpA + the high Speed + the super-effective moves, or neutral at worse. It's not something you can do on your first region, unless you have a 60k+ just sitting around, but if you've already finished one region and you want to unlock the other three as fast as possible, Starmie is probably the best way of doing it.
Another thing is that you actually get Thunderbolt in 3 of the regions, so you can just use it for your next Starmie. In Hoenn, Watson gives you one after you save New Mauville. In Sinnoh there's one in Valley Windworks and in Unova there's one in the P2 laboratory. These last two are post-E4, but if it's your main account, you're already doing the post-game any way to unlock everything.
As someone starting the game tonight, this tells me to pick a fire starter in every region due to oddish covering grass and shelder/starmie covering water. But no fire coverage.
mostly because you don't really need it Fire is effective against: Bug, Grass, Ice and Steel. But for all of those, there are alternatives: Ice - Weak against from Rock and Fight (Scrafty, Starmie, Krookodile) Steel - Also takes from Fight and Ground (Scrafty, Krookodile) Grass - Ice and Flying (Starmie, Cloyster, Gyarados) Bug - Flying, Rock (Starmie, Gyarados) and since most bugs also are Flying... Electric and Ice from Starmie and Cloyster But hey, Typhlosion is my favorite fire starter aswell, you have a 6th free slot anyway, so go for it!
PSA for all moxie gyarados enthusiast like me: you can breed a cheap 2x31 magikarp/1x31 nat (whichever you find cheaper) then breed it with a hidden ability magikarp/gyarados regardless if it's male or female since the child will inherit the hidden ability for being same species :)
If you want a single pokemon that will solo any storyline without any effort, use ONE move only, and is fool proof unlike the ones in the video, then there's only one pokemon in the game. This pokemon is Porygon-z. This pokemon is beyond broken for seven reasons. Tri attack. 135special attack(the same as ALAKAZAM), fast, decent defences, normal typing, doesn't require ANY tms, and adaptability. Let's look at the most popular storyline pokemon, starmie, it has 4 coverage moves that deal 180% power as long as they hit for super effective damage. That seems great right? Well no, adaptability porygon-z with a silk scarf ALSO deals 180% power with tri attack... but on EVERYTHING, and for HARDER. Starmie is also very weak to SIX very common attack types, while porygon-z only has 1 weakness to the uncommon fighting type moves. But why's normal so good besides the fact that you can't hit them super effectively? Well, nothing really resists it, and the ones that do in the storyline, rock/steel, usually have sturdy anyways, making them a two hit regardless. But even then, they still just die in 1 hit, because cutting a 180 power move in half is still 90 power, the same power as something like psychic or thunderbolt. What does this mean? It means this pokemon will NEVER encounter a roadbump. Nothing can stop it's tri attack spam except ghost types, and we got thunderbolt/psychic/w/e else for that, and once you finally reach elite four in any storyline, all you have to do is nasty plot a single time, then continue to roll your face on the keyboard with tri attack for a free win. Absolutely disgusting, and the most faceroll storyline pokemon i've ever used, and I have used 31spatk modest starmie, skill-link cloyster, dragonite, moxie gyrados, and moxie krokadile for past runs. The problem with all those pokemon is the fact that they have weaknesses, they can't always solo by themselves without a secondary pokemon helping them. Porygon-z will NEVER need a secondary pokemon helping him in any storyline, period. Edit: If you are curious, this is the set I run, tri attack, psychic, recover/thunderbolt, and nasty plot. With tri attack, you can finally give up using your brain for good, so throw your psychic-thunderbolt-surf-ice beam starmies in the gutter, and get a real storyline pokemon.
@@christaylor2403 Late reply for sure, but for anyone looking for the exact answer, I have decided to go on Smogon and see its preferred abilities and nature. And thus came to my conclusion that the abilities recommended for you to use are Adaptability (S.T.A.B. DMG became 2x instead of 1.5x) or Download (Atk/SpAtk raised by 1, depending on the foe's defense), while the nature is Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk). Not to mention your EVs should be looking a little like this: 80 HP | 252 SpA | 176 Spe. While this dude's held item should be either Lum Berry (cure from any status) or Life Orb (increase damage dealt at the cost of having recoil damage per turm), according to this comment, Silk Scarf (boost normal-type move by 20%) is good for Porygon Z, which I tried and it does. Smogon set: Porygon-Z @ Life Orb Ability: Adaptability EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe Modest Nature - Nasty Plot - Agility - Tri Attack - Dark Pulse If this helped some of you, please do not forget to like this reply, even though it is not forced.
Alakazam is usually a single calm mind away from sweeping in my experience, hard carried me through my first two regions. 135 SpA at level 16 is no joke
Facts. And breed it down with an extra IV from the money you’ve got from the base game and bam! A 5 31IV’d level 1 Abra to perfect EV to start post game with
I got 6 so a perfect one but i spent a lot of time farming them with oddish next to nugget bridge until I had a 31. Then bred another after every game but did have to farm towards the end game for the money to buy my last 2 mons to breed.
I just started playing this game 2 days ago and I’m totally addicted is my favorite Pokémon experience ever my favorite part is battling people that are progressed as much as me
Sometimes throughout the game certain pokémon just start becoming the one that gets used and leaned upon whether it's talked about very much or not and quite honestly, a lot of them can do a pretty good job if you have around enough assortment of moves and a good enough bulk type pokémans
You are not kidding about early game pokémon and late game pokémon! I'm working on a Dragonite right now and of course you have to be like level 52 to get it there and I think I'm at like 40 right now I've got XP share on him Dragonair and working on getting him to his final stage. The guys I have in my lineup right now are Alpha Pidgeot, Gyarados, Ninetales, Venusaur, Alpha plusle, and Dragonair needing 12 more levels for Dragonite
Thank you for the tips, i follow the tips to speedrunning through the story for my alt acccount and pokemon like gyarados (without moxie) scrafty,Krook,Starmie x2 and dragonite for hm, only with 57 hours i can complete all region, but i know that's not fast but i think it's decent amount of time than my main thanks to this video, thank you.
I think thts incredibly fast compared to the average, all storylines completed takes most players 200-300 hours from what ive seen. Theres just so much upkeep, box management, grinding, xp training, hordes, etc. random MMO stuff that extends pokemmos storylines on top of the extra difficulty, in short, Congrats on the great run and time dude! And im honored to think my content could help even 1% but im sure it was all you gamer. Enjoy your journey on PokeMMO!
I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm just starting getting into PokeMMO. I am having problem with Elite Four and I saw your tips & tricks video using a Steelix due to it having Sturdy ability and can use to set up the move Stealth Rock. Since the Onix line is pretty weak, is the Geodude line a good option as they also can have Sturdy ability and use Stealth Rock? Could be a more useful Pokemon down the line. Appreciate your videos and everything you have taught me regarding PokeMMO. Take care and keep up the great work.
ye golem would be great! Essentially anything with sturdy and stealth rock will do :) Thanks for the love and im just happy to hear the videos have been helpful!
im gonna be using mold breaker drilbur, grinding against sturdy geodudes is just annoying and mold breaker is better than double kick imo, great list for sure definitely using some of these
I am slowly playing through kanto story line and finally reached safari zone. Looking to go on that magikarp fishing grind. Then maybe go to unova to get scrafty and krookadile after gym badge 4
Finally reached E4 in Sinnoh after taking a break from Pokemmo for abou8 months, and I am taking on the E4 they are pretty much tougher than I was expecting, using items and coverage moves is something I forgot they have in game. Anyway, fun video thx
What do you mean by "Third story run"? You can rerun story with current mons? I've finished Kanto and I wonder if there is a way to do it again but with different build, without creating new character.
@@patrouski Ok, I thought so, but wanted to be sure. Thanks. Well, then I guess this video isn't for me, since I want to do every region with that region Pokemons. But still, nice informative vid. Thanks.
but wouldnt moxie salamence actually be useful for johto since opposed to there being 8 gyms just in johto you also have 8 gyms in kanto and by the time you beat e4 and champ the whole team is lvl 50? i never finished hgss but by memory i had lvl 50s by the end
The issue is bagon and shelgon are rly bad and dont have moxie so they are dead weight until 50 VS sandile and krorok or other options being good. Its not really a "storyline mon" if u dont use it until the E4, or atleast thats my reasoning/opinion :)
@@patrouski id argue that as long as bagon or even shelgon can outspeed it is worth it. they have 50 base speed so if you could get 31iv speed nature like jolly with a lot of ev investment into attack and speed, shelgon can easily carry through mid game since it has 90 attack and high defensive bulk plus dragon typing being only weak to ice and dragon and having huge resistances means it can switch in to a lot of moves. but just for johto in particular from what ive read that lances team is filled with lvl 70s after beating kanto gyms, salamence can just be a really great sweeper for that.
Swellow is not THAT good in pokemmo. Its good in traditional pokémon and in nuzlockes and it will work plenty fine in pokemmo but its soooo far down the list in comparison to other mons, this video explains: th-cam.com/video/DAqnB93tBlY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kuw2IerkVq738n99
"after he sets up those " "HEYWait wait let me have 2 turns to set up first! So ii can have a chance of winning.... " trainer - Kadabra..use psychic.. 1 SHOT, 1 turn. GG Scrubby.
+1 for Starmie, I'll mention that it's what speedrunners use. People who unlock all 4 regions on tons of accounts do it by using a level 20 starmie to start on each region, and teach it Thunderbolt and Ice Beam via TMs (which does cost 45k, but you make up for that from the time you save in the run) and then you just cruise through the storyline with a single pokémon. The main thing is the high SpA + the high Speed + the super-effective moves, or neutral at worse.
It's not something you can do on your first region, unless you have a 60k+ just sitting around, but if you've already finished one region and you want to unlock the other three as fast as possible, Starmie is probably the best way of doing it.
Another thing is that you actually get Thunderbolt in 3 of the regions, so you can just use it for your next Starmie. In Hoenn, Watson gives you one after you save New Mauville. In Sinnoh there's one in Valley Windworks and in Unova there's one in the P2 laboratory. These last two are post-E4, but if it's your main account, you're already doing the post-game any way to unlock everything.
I didnt knew that, thx a lot
Btw where did u see that?
@@alonesimplesmente I first saw it on MightyBoxer's storyline guide, he says this is how he does it. Then I tried for myself and it worked.
As someone starting the game tonight, this tells me to pick a fire starter in every region due to oddish covering grass and shelder/starmie covering water. But no fire coverage.
@@aznpholyfe6693 thanks
mostly because you don't really need it
Fire is effective against: Bug, Grass, Ice and Steel. But for all of those, there are alternatives:
Ice - Weak against from Rock and Fight (Scrafty, Starmie, Krookodile)
Steel - Also takes from Fight and Ground (Scrafty, Krookodile)
Grass - Ice and Flying (Starmie, Cloyster, Gyarados)
Bug - Flying, Rock (Starmie, Gyarados) and since most bugs also are Flying... Electric and Ice from Starmie and Cloyster
But hey, Typhlosion is my favorite fire starter aswell, you have a 6th free slot anyway, so go for it!
Good Luck on Kanto Charmander is by Far the worst starter
Managed to snag a moxie one yesterday. 31 atk 31spd 30 hp neutral nature for 68k! Thanks for the tip
Great list, would personally put starmie above scrafty but understand the choice moxie is just really strong
PSA for all moxie gyarados enthusiast like me:
you can breed a cheap 2x31 magikarp/1x31 nat (whichever you find cheaper) then breed it with a hidden ability magikarp/gyarados regardless if it's male or female since the child will inherit the hidden ability for being same species :)
Can you elaborate
You should breed HA first imo
Got confused said fuck it.
can you explain it like a child
If you want a single pokemon that will solo any storyline without any effort, use ONE move only, and is fool proof unlike the ones in the video, then there's only one pokemon in the game. This pokemon is Porygon-z.
This pokemon is beyond broken for seven reasons. Tri attack. 135special attack(the same as ALAKAZAM), fast, decent defences, normal typing, doesn't require ANY tms, and adaptability.
Let's look at the most popular storyline pokemon, starmie, it has 4 coverage moves that deal 180% power as long as they hit for super effective damage. That seems great right? Well no, adaptability porygon-z with a silk scarf ALSO deals 180% power with tri attack... but on EVERYTHING, and for HARDER. Starmie is also very weak to SIX very common attack types, while porygon-z only has 1 weakness to the uncommon fighting type moves.
But why's normal so good besides the fact that you can't hit them super effectively? Well, nothing really resists it, and the ones that do in the storyline, rock/steel, usually have sturdy anyways, making them a two hit regardless. But even then, they still just die in 1 hit, because cutting a 180 power move in half is still 90 power, the same power as something like psychic or thunderbolt.
What does this mean? It means this pokemon will NEVER encounter a roadbump. Nothing can stop it's tri attack spam except ghost types, and we got thunderbolt/psychic/w/e else for that, and once you finally reach elite four in any storyline, all you have to do is nasty plot a single time, then continue to roll your face on the keyboard with tri attack for a free win. Absolutely disgusting, and the most faceroll storyline pokemon i've ever used, and I have used 31spatk modest starmie, skill-link cloyster, dragonite, moxie gyrados, and moxie krokadile for past runs.
The problem with all those pokemon is the fact that they have weaknesses, they can't always solo by themselves without a secondary pokemon helping them. Porygon-z will NEVER need a secondary pokemon helping him in any storyline, period.
Edit: If you are curious, this is the set I run, tri attack, psychic, recover/thunderbolt, and nasty plot. With tri attack, you can finally give up using your brain for good, so throw your psychic-thunderbolt-surf-ice beam starmies in the gutter, and get a real storyline pokemon.
What ability and nature do you use?
I tried this with a 25+ spa and spd iv and neutral nature it was really great, only bad thing is 10 pp for tri attack
@@christaylor2403 Late reply for sure, but for anyone looking for the exact answer, I have decided to go on Smogon and see its preferred abilities and nature. And thus came to my conclusion that the abilities recommended for you to use are Adaptability (S.T.A.B. DMG became 2x instead of 1.5x) or Download (Atk/SpAtk raised by 1, depending on the foe's defense), while the nature is Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk). Not to mention your EVs should be looking a little like this: 80 HP | 252 SpA | 176 Spe. While this dude's held item should be either Lum Berry (cure from any status) or Life Orb (increase damage dealt at the cost of having recoil damage per turm), according to this comment, Silk Scarf (boost normal-type move by 20%) is good for Porygon Z, which I tried and it does.
Smogon set: Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Agility
- Tri Attack
- Dark Pulse
If this helped some of you, please do not forget to like this reply, even though it is not forced.
Alakazam is usually a single calm mind away from sweeping in my experience, hard carried me through my first two regions. 135 SpA at level 16 is no joke
Facts. And breed it down with an extra IV from the money you’ve got from the base game and bam! A 5 31IV’d level 1 Abra to perfect EV to start post game with
I got 6 so a perfect one but i spent a lot of time farming them with oddish next to nugget bridge until I had a 31. Then bred another after every game but did have to farm towards the end game for the money to buy my last 2 mons to breed.
I just started playing this game 2 days ago and I’m totally addicted is my favorite Pokémon experience ever my favorite part is battling people that are progressed as much as me
Sometimes throughout the game certain pokémon just start becoming the one that gets used and leaned upon whether it's talked about very much or not and quite honestly, a lot of them can do a pretty good job if you have around enough assortment of moves and a good enough bulk type pokémans
You are not kidding about early game pokémon and late game pokémon! I'm working on a Dragonite right now and of course you have to be like level 52 to get it there and I think I'm at like 40 right now I've got XP share on him Dragonair and working on getting him to his final stage. The guys I have in my lineup right now are Alpha Pidgeot, Gyarados, Ninetales, Venusaur, Alpha plusle, and Dragonair needing 12 more levels for Dragonite
Great video, thanks for the helpful info
You are only missing a sturdy-stealth rock for gym and elite 4
Sheer force Nidoking, especially if you can afford life orb.
ooo thts a cool option i didn’t think of :o
Thank you for the tips, i follow the tips to speedrunning through the story for my alt acccount and pokemon like gyarados (without moxie) scrafty,Krook,Starmie x2 and dragonite for hm, only with 57 hours i can complete all region, but i know that's not fast but i think it's decent amount of time than my main thanks to this video, thank you.
I think thts incredibly fast compared to the average, all storylines completed takes most players 200-300 hours from what ive seen. Theres just so much upkeep, box management, grinding, xp training, hordes, etc. random MMO stuff that extends pokemmos storylines on top of the extra difficulty, in short, Congrats on the great run and time dude! And im honored to think my content could help even 1% but im sure it was all you gamer. Enjoy your journey on PokeMMO!
Love this; I have a BADASS moxie gyarados, blaziken, Dragonite with almost all perfect IVs. Crazy stuff. Haha
I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm just starting getting into PokeMMO. I am having problem with Elite Four and I saw your tips & tricks video using a Steelix due to it having Sturdy ability and can use to set up the move Stealth Rock. Since the Onix line is pretty weak, is the Geodude line a good option as they also can have Sturdy ability and use Stealth Rock? Could be a more useful Pokemon down the line. Appreciate your videos and everything you have taught me regarding PokeMMO. Take care and keep up the great work.
ye golem would be great! Essentially anything with sturdy and stealth rock will do :) Thanks for the love and im just happy to hear the videos have been helpful!
im gonna be using mold breaker drilbur, grinding against sturdy geodudes is just annoying and mold breaker is better than double kick imo, great list for sure definitely using some of these
mold breaker definitely super underrated!
Bullet seed
Man you help so much you are underrated as fuck. You made me find pokemmo and i started before the start of the new years n holy crap im in love
Ok can you do “Top 5 Pokémon to use in seasonal events” and maybe “top 5 Pokémon to use in dungeons” as a preimtive guess ?
13:37 Jesus you read my mind
ayooo thats crazy how all of pat followers feel like family ahah i never saw that
What EV’s would you give gyarados, krook, scrafty … etc
And how would you go about deciding which EV’s to train on certain Pokémon
Hitmonchan:
Drain Punch/ Electric Punch/ Fire Punch/ Ice Punch
Item: Expert Belt (boost super effective)
I guess I should get a moxie pokemon for johto
I just evolved a bellosom at level 21 and it didn't learn quiver dance?
I am slowly playing through kanto story line and finally reached safari zone. Looking to go on that magikarp fishing grind. Then maybe go to unova to get scrafty and krookadile after gym badge 4
i did precisely this...farming route 4 in unova gave me a lot of money and a very good scrafty and krook
why not flame orb swellow guts with facade?
So Moxie Gyarados over Krook?
How do you get a rattled magikarp
Ok so how do you get a moxie gyarados then other than on the gtl?
You cannot anymore, they were only available during a limited time event. Maybe they will return someday.
Pretty sure your last list had Gyarados and boy do I like my sea snake
is there some way i can control nature of pokemon i breed ?
everstone
@@dandy4577so i should give everstone to pokemon whose nature i want to keep?
yes!
@@patrouski ok thanks
yo yo pat good mornin
Me with my ha cincinno against jhoto
Finally reached E4 in Sinnoh after taking a break from Pokemmo for abou8 months, and I am taking on the E4 they are pretty much tougher than I was expecting, using items and coverage moves is something I forgot they have in game.
Anyway, fun video thx
What do you mean by "Third story run"? You can rerun story with current mons? I've finished Kanto and I wonder if there is a way to do it again but with different build, without creating new character.
third story run just meaning your third region
@@patrouski Ok, I thought so, but wanted to be sure. Thanks. Well, then I guess this video isn't for me, since I want to do every region with that region Pokemons. But still, nice informative vid. Thanks.
I am going for nostalgia. Being to prepared might ruin the experience. 😅
Ay if thts ur goal more power to ya, have fun!
The Sinnoh elite 4 is brutal! Yanmega! Rip!!
Is Moxie still available to find on Pokémon?
Yes! Any specific mon u were concerned about?
but wouldnt moxie salamence actually be useful for johto since opposed to there being 8 gyms just in johto you also have 8 gyms in kanto and by the time you beat e4 and champ the whole team is lvl 50? i never finished hgss but by memory i had lvl 50s by the end
The issue is bagon and shelgon are rly bad and dont have moxie so they are dead weight until 50 VS sandile and krorok or other options being good. Its not really a "storyline mon" if u dont use it until the E4, or atleast thats my reasoning/opinion :)
@@patrouski id argue that as long as bagon or even shelgon can outspeed it is worth it. they have 50 base speed so if you could get 31iv speed nature like jolly with a lot of ev investment into attack and speed, shelgon can easily carry through mid game since it has 90 attack and high defensive bulk plus dragon typing being only weak to ice and dragon and having huge resistances means it can switch in to a lot of moves. but just for johto in particular from what ive read that lances team is filled with lvl 70s after beating kanto gyms, salamence can just be a really great sweeper for that.
What does ‘Start’ mean beside the Pokémon move? Will they automatically learn that move once they r evolved to that Pokémon?
yes exactly!
What you mean not wasting money on story, what would I want to do after that
The game begins once you beat all storylines, its an MMO. Think of it as leveling to 60 in Classic WoW
Isn't Moxie Gyarados's hidden ability? So it's not nearly as easy to get as all those places you can catch Magikarp.
i mentioned this in the video i believe.
You did guts swellow dirty by not even giving it an honourable mention :(
Swellow is not THAT good in pokemmo. Its good in traditional pokémon and in nuzlockes and it will work plenty fine in pokemmo but its soooo far down the list in comparison to other mons, this video explains: th-cam.com/video/DAqnB93tBlY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kuw2IerkVq738n99
Chose kanto first and I'm stuck on e4
i just bought that gyra you are showing it was on sell by you XD
"after he sets up those "
"HEYWait wait let me have 2 turns to set up first! So ii can have a chance of winning.... "
trainer - Kadabra..use psychic.. 1 SHOT, 1 turn. GG Scrubby.
i lost my save for some reason so sad, fml D:
swellow flame orb facade though...
not that good in pokemmo, better in traditional games. Its still fine but these are better for pokemmo
Cool
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