www.mazdaforum.com/forum/mazda-rx-7-33/joe-maddox-super-rare-1-100-1989-fc3s-gtus-rx7-2jz-gte-vvti-build-43602/ I have found and saved the rarest Mazda FC RX7 ever made! Now this car is rare. Really rare! Let me break this down really quick... Ever heard of the rare 100 GTUs rx7s? Only 40 have ever been claimed and only 7 are confirmed at the time of this posting! Here are the rarest rx7 FC3S models: 1500 10AE Turbo models 1400 infini 1000 winning limited 150 final edition convertible 100 GTUs... out of that 100: 83 red on black 10 black on black 7 white on blue There was only 100 GTUs models created between 1989 and 1991. If you own one of these rare models sign your car up to the registry list here on any of the rotary forums!
Yeah, no joke!! Literally, and I mean literally, every single video I have watched today has had double unskipable ads. And it's always Trading 212 & Amazon Audiobooks!!
At least they put the yellow bar under so I know how much to skip ... but I think they should do more like running on the bottom ones or some shit like tv lol
The EJ engine design is 32 years old this year with the STI Legacy RS RA being 31. That is an antique by today’s standards. It is great that Subaru is finally using a new engine.
i own two 1993 legacy turbo sport sedans and have a 1990 legacy sport sedan aswell. ej22t with 5speed awd. the grand daddy to the sti. ill contemplate doing a fa swap in one of the 93's. 400hp is good enough in those, lol guess i can push the bar a bit with a new setup
You've came such a long way in a very short time. I honestly couldn't get on board with you, but now you're just genuinely awesome. Sorry for my doubts.
I’m too old to accept the words 4 cylinder and rumble in the same sentence. Just purchased a 2024 Forester Wilderness, so far it is fun to drive but no noticeable rumble. Good video, thanks.
@@Donut Jereboy can you add more animations how specific engines work? Like Bart used to do There are plenty of engines to look through, for example RBs
@@Dethmeister I know. Today we're gonna talk about Subaru's new motor (basically a lengthy commercial...I hope we're getting a kick back from Subaru?) But 1st a word from our sponsor that's not Subaru. Ok back to your commercial that you actually chose & wanted to watch...now here comes the good part BAM ad. Times 3-6 throughout your lengthy video commercial. ;)
The chassis of the BRZ, FRS, 86, is soooo good to work with. More power can definitely be added and minor adjustments made to make the chassis handle the extra power with ease.
People are mad about this? At least it’s still a boxer. It’s not like they’re throwing the old engine out in favor of an inline four or (worse) an electric motor. Choose your battles guys, we should be happy that they’re sticking with ICE at all at this point.
I think most are just mad about the UEL headers being d/c on FA24. I'm personally excited to see what Subaru does in fact roll out for the next gen sti regardless of no EJ.
Hello. I work at a dealership and I cab promise you the engine is going to be an issue child. I can say all of the non public issues about it, but when you dig into the FA24 things just don't look so good for it...
Thank you for crediting us in your video @DonutMedia We're glad we could provide helpful content that adds to the enthusiasm of car fanatics everywhere!
I recently picked up a 2023 wrx and couldn't be happier. The engine is more durable, stronger and most importantly, more powerful. Specially can handle a bit more tuning from stock then the ej.
Dude, the term "edutainment" was invented with you in mind. Never saw anything near as informative and easy to digest like this (and many other of your videos)... huge kudos!
If they don't address the carbon build up with the FA 24, I'll never buy one. I have to run top engine cleaner in my 2016 forester style at every oil change so it doesn't become a dog. Definitely an issue they need to address.
Subarus are already bad about top end deposit buildup. Without a catch can (even on NA models) you're going to need to de-coke your intake pretty frequently to prevent problems.
@@andrewsoltis459 same. I've got a 2018 WRX and I'm not buying another until they really fix the issue, and I don't consider walnut blasting my car's innards a viable solution.
The USA doesn't have a STI for 2022, just the 2.4 in the WRX with 271hp 258 lb ft. The ascent has a 260 hp and 277lb ft. NO STI, the new rumor is an electric STI
Honestly, what I hope for the most is that Subie are still gonna stick to their rally roots and not just make yet another highway runner that cries at the sight of a pothole. If it's better in the dirt than the last model, then I'm happy. I have faith in their new FA engine. Sad with the unequal header noise gone, but at this point there didn't seem to be realistic ways of saving it. The classic subie engines will go into the hall of fame along with the Dorito engine. Old legends that served their time and now earned a well deserved retirement.
The old EJ20s are the best in my book. The EJ207 in particular which has thicker cylinder walls and a semi closed deck block. Also has AVCS which is like Subaru's version of VTEC bby
I think just v7 forward have the fancy heads. I have EJ207 v6 in my wagon and I am pretty sure they have fixed timing (less complicated ECU work for a swap).
Most of the EJ engines in the WRX and STI are semi-closed deck blocks... Only a select few early ones had actual closed deck blocks. Also, AVCS until 2008 was only on the intake cam, from 2008 onwards in the EJ257, it has been dual AVCS. Makes a massive difference... You are on point about the thicker cylinder walls, though.
@@VeliRajasaar Yes there were a few fully closed deck blocks but I believe those were race only motors and I thought all of them were given to Prodrive for the WRC championship. There is a company called subi performance in Deutschland who will convert open deck blocks into semi-closed or fully closed deck
There are reasons why that old engine became an icon, so there are more things to ask for, like the rumble sound for starters, a great manual transmission, in a way to keep the tradition of the brand that kept people fascinated with the STI for so many years.
You forgot to mention port injection also helps keeping your intake valves clean, on the other hand direct injection doesn't, but yeah it is way better overall than port injection, especially if your aim is power and efficiency. Get your catch cans ready...
New wrx has shown to consistently do 350whp with an intake and a protune (conservatively). And MUCH more with an e85 tune (which the stock fuel system can take) .. there is your “sti”
Well at least it's an engine that wont blow by 3k miles, I have 3 different friends that have had an engine blow before 8k miles. Subaru finally got their shit together I'm excited!
I really hope they put dual port injection in the car, direct injection has too many downfalls. And I don't care if unequal length headers cause less power I want them!
Veterror yes! I own a 2020 WRX and I’m disappointed with the sound of not having the UEL headers. Hope Subaru keeps the UEL headers regardless of what is more efficient and makes more power!
@@ZFA1738 wouldnt a not-poor person have just bought an STI? Just kiddin, but yeah respect so long as you got passion - just ask yer tuner what you should expect in the long run. Curious if ringland failures would plague the new WRX again if UELs are used.
I just hopped on to this series this episode, and this style is so good for new car people or people that don’t know some stuff. If someone didn’t understand the engine codes for some cars, they’d have to look everything up themselves, but in this series, it’s explained to the basics and then brings the main topic, and I love it!
I'll be honest, at first I thought you weren't going to make a good host but the more I watch you the more you own this show. Great vid Jeremiah, looking forward to next week :)
0:55 if I remember correctly that's a long stroke engine built for torque. Also this implies that the WRX and the sti will have different engines from now on ...
@@natesmith9007 In '06-'07, the STI had the EJ257 while the WRX had the EJ255. They were practically the same engine, with slightly different pistons. I think the 257 was dished more? But practically the same engine.
Donut, please, PLEASE give mad props to the person who makes the animations. All those little details make the videos even better. Also, Jeremiah is a cool cat! I really enjoy him as a presenter. 😎👍
People love to shit on Jeremiah but you can tell dude is putting his heart and soul into making this series not only accessible and friendly. but fun as fuck too. Love this guy. Somebody buy him an FA Subie
If you don’t already understand the core values of cars like the BRZ, no amount of explaining we do will help, so feel free to stop asking. You’ve made up your mind that the WRX is better, but I don’t think it’s too much to ask that people just appreciate all the cars we have to choose from before they go away. Pizza’s an excellent and extremely versatile food, but so is a Stromboli.
@@jdmking4776 lol, my 93' makes over 400 with the ej22t factory engine. with over 190k on the odometer its been a good family car. glad i have another 93' and a 90 aswell. the sport sedan legacy model was by far a hit, as was the svx.
@@constitutionalrepublican1611 Yeah my setup makes about 550whp on e85. 350 on pump gas. I run a stroker ej205. I'm at 249,XXX miles right now. The GC8 is a good chassis.
It’s pretty fun at first to 2nd but after that it it’s mellower but that also means the car isn’t smooth to drive normally half of the time no matter who you are, point is fun but you have to want it 😅
It's like Mazda has done with their entire fleet in recent years. They all use the same 4 cyl engine, some are 2.0l others are 2.5l, they have different tunes + turbo according to the job they're supposed to do, and engine placement in the bay (some are facing sideways, others are forward) and that's how they get different power.
Most of nowadays engines are built this way, that's why an ECU remap is so effective, sometimes the only difference between two models is the electronic configuration.
That’s what Subaru used to do. The problem is engines that are made to do everything usually don’t do any one thing particularly well. The EJ is a great example of that. There’s also a reason you don’t find aftermarket turbo kits for current Mazda engines, and there aren’t a lot of bolt ons for the current Miata: the engines aren’t made to handle that.
Well Im sold.. Im going to sell my Focus ST and put it towards a new subi i want 2022 with this new FA engine.. Bolt ons and a tune and im over 400HP without having to really do any major work.. hell yeah.. I want white with red or black accents and manual trans..
Subaru keeps making the STI better and better. I currently own an Outback 3.6r cause I need the DadWagon. But as soon as my kids are off to college I will be getting an STI. With all the improvements I am happy to wait for that day!
I really hope they somehow find a way to keep UEL headers for the new STI's, because that sweet subie rumble is the best car sound to ever exist imo. There's no other sound like it. If the new ones don't have it, I'll stick to old ones.
@@That-guy0801 yes they are but the guy just said they might do direct or ported injection, maybe both just like the brz. I'd say do direct because its efficient but less durability on it
Direct Injection has also bad side , at cold temperatures the gaz can by-pass the piston rings and drop into the oil pan, mixing Oil / Gaz for oil dilution. This was a MAJOR issue in Honda's GDI "Earth Dreams"
I'm glad I subscribed to your guys' channel now, not only do I understand why the new Subaru STI motor is better than its predecessor, I also have a much better understanding on how a motor works in general. Props to you guys at Donut!!!
I have had my 2019 BRZ Limited for a year now and I gotta say it is so much fun to drive everyday. Trying to pay it off fast so I can just garage it and have it be my fun weekend or just summer car. Its going to be a classic for sure.
Man the Donut Videos are getting better and better not only the content but the ANIMATION and EXPLANATIONS too! ALL RESPECT FOR THE TEXT EDITORS AND ANIMATORS OF DONUT MEDIAAAAAAA MOH PAWA BABIEEEEEEEEEEEEEYEAAHAAHHA
i just picked up my 8th car of my life the 2006 Subaru Impreza 2.5i. I dont want to drive it hard till i get it on the lift tue but all i can do is watch Donut till then.
All subarus share a variation on a similar block The ea series (pre ej) had a 1.6 and a 1.8 version and a 6 cylinder version of the ea called the ER27 then you had the ej series that had a range of sizes with the same block just cylinder bores ranging from 1.6L to 2.5L You can take turbo heads off of a 2008 wrx and put them on your 1.6L 1992 impreza block and it will run with an ecu flash or a dohc spec computer and the computor will think it's just business as usual lol. I have an 99 outback sport and it only ever came with a ej16/ej18/ej22 and i have a 2.5L ej253 in my outback sport running on the stock ecu because almost every subaru engine is the same as long as they have the same type of heads (sohc or dohc) Saying that the wrx and the Forester have the same motor is the same as it has always been. Just different internals, manifolds, heads, and other minor stuff.
People are having conversations about the videos, Subaru’s, and cars in general all over. I get the sentiment, but this is FAR from the worse channel for that. stradman comments are often memes. Non car channels are even worse.
The reason Toyota uses Port and Direct injection is to also clean the backside of the valves that get massive carbon build up. Direct injection's fuel never comes in contact with the back of the valve thus over time the valve getting carbon and soot built up that reduces efficiency. Port injection's fuel gets sprayed onto the back side of the valve thus cleaning it with the built in fuel detergents. Just ask VW how they cheated the EPA because their direct injection engines became less efficient rather quickly due to direct injection. VW/Bosch had the ECU to lean the fuel mixture out when the ECU sensed the emissions system being plugged in.
An often made mistake is to consider Boxer and flat engines one and the same, when they aren't actually. In a flat engine (not a boxer), a pairs of pistons share a crankpin. In a true boxer engine, every piston has its own crankpin. The result of the boxer motor’s use of individual crankpins is that the pistons on either side move opposite one another, which helps to cancel out engine vibration. The back-and-forth motion of the pistons resembles the punches of a boxer, which is where the engine gets its name.
What are your thoughts on the switch to the FA24? Should they put it in the BRZ?
Only if they keep the redline above 7k- I love wringing out mine above 5k! Feels so good!
Yep
www.mazdaforum.com/forum/mazda-rx-7-33/joe-maddox-super-rare-1-100-1989-fc3s-gtus-rx7-2jz-gte-vvti-build-43602/
I have found and saved the rarest Mazda FC RX7 ever made! Now this car is rare. Really rare! Let me break this down really quick...
Ever heard of the rare 100 GTUs rx7s? Only 40 have ever been claimed and only 7 are confirmed at the time of this posting! Here are the rarest rx7 FC3S models:
1500 10AE Turbo models
1400 infini
1000 winning limited
150 final edition convertible
100 GTUs...
out of that 100:
83 red on black
10 black on black
7 white on blue
There was only 100 GTUs models created between 1989 and 1991.
If you own one of these rare models sign your car up to the registry list here on any of the rotary forums!
What about solenoid valves?
no i think they just need to add more torque to the current FA20. it's fine as it is.
I dont know if anyone else have said this, but, the animators for the channel are great and deserve more respect
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The best - Jeremiah
Donut Media thanks Jeremiah , appreciate you, keeper goin
totally agree
Jeremiah the GOAT ❤️
I'll be honest, I didn't give this show a chance but this guy really won me over and now I can't get enough of these. Keep it up bro👍
Same
I had the same mindset
Still miss science garage
@@Classic_Workshop me too
He is a bit of a crackhead but he's cool
TH-cam getting way to comfortable with these double ads.
Yeah, no joke!!
Literally, and I mean literally, every single video I have watched today has had double unskipable ads.
And it's always Trading 212 & Amazon Audiobooks!!
😂
Sometimes I get 30 second double ads
At least they put the yellow bar under so I know how much to skip ... but I think they should do more like running on the bottom ones or some shit like tv lol
ublock origin...
The EJ engine design is 32 years old this year with the STI Legacy RS RA being 31. That is an antique by today’s standards. It is great that Subaru is finally using a new engine.
i own two 1993 legacy turbo sport sedans and have a 1990 legacy sport sedan aswell.
ej22t with 5speed awd. the grand daddy to the sti.
ill contemplate doing a fa swap in one of the 93's.
400hp is good enough in those, lol guess i can push the bar a bit with a new setup
@@constitutionalrepublican1611 Can't really go wrong with the EJ22T though
@@bradd4664 nope def cant
Rolls Royce (later Bentley) V8 was in production for 61 years, from 1959 to 2020. 31 years of EJ look nothing compared to the RR V8.
Subaru dropped out of WRC in 2008, who even cares what engine they dump at this point?
"Linear motion to rotating motion; it's all an engine does"
*Angry rotary noises*
@Phillip Aubin
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th-cam.com/video/ocZ0veZjiBs/w-d-xo.html Just as you said.
As a Wankel engine, I beg to disagree.
Uhhhh.... No
@BEST More like, ꜰᴀᴀᴀᴀᴀᴀʀᴛ
You've came such a long way in a very short time.
I honestly couldn't get on board with you, but now you're just genuinely awesome.
Sorry for my doubts.
Thanks for sticking in there with me - Jeremiah
Agree 💯
eh.
He's such a good teacher
@@darkproject3368
Yeah, definitely.
We need to show more love to the editors. They do such an amazing job on these vids that they don't get enough attention
Love our editors, they’re so good - Jeremiah
@@Donut thats great!!
Cant lie Jeremiah's energy makes this show SOOOO enjoyable...the cars are cool too😂😊
He's way better than anyone else on here now. (But I miss Bart from Science Garage 😭)
PS. New most hated word "herse-pers"
literally. hes a beast.
@@strucep happened to everyone
"One of the most iconic automotive sounds out there" -Does not allow the sound to be heard
Edit fail
Yes the sound of a VW Beetle
Sound could be copy written
The sound is from unequal exhaust headers, change the headers to tuned/equal length and it sounds like a lancer
I’m too old to accept the words 4 cylinder and rumble in the same sentence. Just purchased a 2024 Forester Wilderness, so far it is fun to drive but no noticeable rumble. Good video, thanks.
Subie fans: "Subaru needs to just give us a new engine, this engine is just so out dated."
Subie fans when Subaru gives in: "I don't want that."
eats oil like a motherflower. Not good!!
@@gickygackers *Laughs in rotary.*
Its nt a subie without the rumble
@@georgejones5019 *me laughing after rotary swapping my sti*
Mom engine!
Day 36 of asking donut to do an b2b on their cars or maybe an up to speed or d-list
A D-list of donut employee cars would be cool
A b2b on their cars would be awesome
I think Jeremiah did one on his Camaro and it was hella schweeeet
Or maybe up to speed on James's Dad or gf
for 1 sec i thought its the return of science garage when i see thhe word SCIENCE! i miss bart!
luv u too Jeremiah!
Love you too! - Jeremiah
@@Donut Jereboy can you add more animations how specific engines work? Like Bart used to do
There are plenty of engines to look through, for example RBs
Just don't have a baby...
@@ernankortes7107 I'm pretty sure he doesn't do the animations. Donut has a big crew of writers animators, editors and hosts.
@@jsplit9716 sure Bart didn't do but Jeremoo could use other people's animations to talk about specific engines for example
2019 car that every you tuber got: mk5 Supra
2020: C8 Corvette
2021: new sti
Darth Bandit nah 2021 will be the new Nissan 400z
@@gkb 300z*
nah 2021 will be the new M3 with lung grille
@@bigchunkydude4278 350z => 370z => 400z
gkb
I vote 420Z
‘Whats new on the engine, lets take a look! Whooo!-
BAM! HIT YOU WITH AN AD
I think I got 6 video ads. 1 at the start, 3 during the video and 2 at the end.
@@Dethmeister I know. Today we're gonna talk about Subaru's new motor (basically a lengthy commercial...I hope we're getting a kick back from Subaru?) But 1st a word from our sponsor that's not Subaru. Ok back to your commercial that you actually chose & wanted to watch...now here comes the good part BAM ad. Times 3-6 throughout your lengthy video commercial. ;)
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@@curtissdesigns stop being broke and get premium
@@adanflores4523 Just boycott the advertisers, and be sure the advertisers know it.
The chassis of the BRZ, FRS, 86, is soooo good to work with. More power can definitely be added and minor adjustments made to make the chassis handle the extra power with ease.
"direct injection is better for your engine"
dirty intake valves: "am I a joke to you?"
That’s exactly why the Toyota D4S system has both. Toyota does not place their reliability reputation at risk.
@TehChickenPie my brothers FA spun a bearing at 70k miles it was so much work to split that block and put it back together.
@@RidgelineJames really!? That's crazy! Are they worse than the regular EJ to split!?!?
Had to put a catch can in my car.......as mine is all direct injected :(
just clean then 4Head
When is the second season of Hilo coming to TH-cam?
Yo. I neeed.
July!
@@Donut cant wait
Donut Media it’s gonna be with the Tacomas isn’t it, as teased by James? Tacoma fanboy here lol
Aye!! I’m so excited, next they’re doing tacos
Picked up a 2022 WRX 2 months ago and after seeing this video I love my car even more
If only all these rumors about the 2022 Sti turned out to be true😢
People are mad about this?
At least it’s still a boxer. It’s not like they’re throwing the old engine out in favor of an inline four or (worse) an electric motor. Choose your battles guys, we should be happy that they’re sticking with ICE at all at this point.
Both would be awesome. High revving NA-Boxer and a 100ish hp eletric motor for the low rev-range
I think most are just mad about the UEL headers being d/c on FA24. I'm personally excited to see what Subaru does in fact roll out for the next gen sti regardless of no EJ.
Hello. I work at a dealership and I cab promise you the engine is going to be an issue child. I can say all of the non public issues about it, but when you dig into the FA24 things just don't look so good for it...
Thank you Jeremiah for reminding what day if the week it is
"You know the thing people use for honey you - I actually have one, I can show em."
Me: *intrigued to see*
*Nothing comes*
Me: *sad*
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Your animations make it really easy to understand what you're saying, and your explanations are also clear and simple. Great job!
This guy is so good at keeping my attention I didn’t even realize I hadn’t skipped the keeps commercial till it was over lol
got here fast bc I drifted home downhill in my subie... first must have been whoever was in that damn 86!
WAS THAT A PANDA TRUENO!?!?!
@@JTENJOI380 nah, just some speedy speed boi
Thank you for crediting us in your video @DonutMedia
We're glad we could provide helpful content that adds to the enthusiasm of car fanatics everywhere!
Thank you guys for doing what you do!!
This channel has tought me so much about cars in the 2 months I've been watching this channel
I recently picked up a 2023 wrx and couldn't be happier. The engine is more durable, stronger and most importantly, more powerful. Specially can handle a bit more tuning from stock then the ej.
Dude, the term "edutainment" was invented with you in mind. Never saw anything near as informative and easy to digest like this (and many other of your videos)... huge kudos!
I should get my ex a new Sti since she gave me multiple STI’s :(
I was slow for a second
Yadeen kabir you just had to build boost
Yadeen kabir turbo lag in the brain 🧠
lmao that’s a good one
Don't, get them an up badged bottom line imprezza
When are we going to get a Jeremiah Bike tour!!!!
As a motorcycle fan myself i would love to know about his babies in the back!
Hell yea
Donut hates bikes.
@@Moracycle Are you sure about that? th-cam.com/users/DonutMediaTVsearch?query=motorcycle
yx xy hayabusa*
@yx xy they made one out of how many videos? Shot, They made more videos about Nascar then about bikes.
sheesh that fa24 is so strong that the evo might come back XD
That would he the day!
It’s coming back now .... as a crossover smh
@@joseeduardo4327 a crossover... damn..
@@MJT-DA a crossover electric hybrid..
@@joseeduardo4327 Say sike right now!! Please :(
I hope they are sold as crate engines, I would love to swap an old forester.
I was thinking the same thing
I’d love to buy an FR-S or BRZ used and put this engine in there.
@@gtmike916 same I wanted to do that either for a brz/86 not sure they'll ever be a crate engine but there's gotta be salvaged acents around lol
@@gtmike916 boy have I got some news for you...
@@yummyhershey5902 what’s up?
Hello from 2022 where the New WRX has been released and the STi cancelled
As much as i love this episode, long live the EJ!!!!
500hp crosstrek, goals. but this has made me excited about getting a new STI in two-three years
getting passed on the highway by an 500hp crosstrek would be an experience.
Meaning I’d like to see it run not a glance at it for a few seconds like we got here lol
They should have port and DI, to prevent carbon buildup
Was about to say Dual injection is best.
If they don't address the carbon build up with the FA 24, I'll never buy one. I have to run top engine cleaner in my 2016 forester style at every oil change so it doesn't become a dog. Definitely an issue they need to address.
Subarus are already bad about top end deposit buildup. Without a catch can (even on NA models) you're going to need to de-coke your intake pretty frequently to prevent problems.
Frank Pickett I’m gonna have to check mine out then, I’m not having any performance issues, but who knows? I’ve got an FA20
@@andrewsoltis459 same. I've got a 2018 WRX and I'm not buying another until they really fix the issue, and I don't consider walnut blasting my car's innards a viable solution.
The USA doesn't have a STI for 2022, just the 2.4 in the WRX with 271hp 258 lb ft. The ascent has a 260 hp and 277lb ft. NO STI, the new rumor is an electric STI
Honestly, what I hope for the most is that Subie are still gonna stick to their rally roots and not just make yet another highway runner that cries at the sight of a pothole. If it's better in the dirt than the last model, then I'm happy. I have faith in their new FA engine. Sad with the unequal header noise gone, but at this point there didn't seem to be realistic ways of saving it. The classic subie engines will go into the hall of fame along with the Dorito engine. Old legends that served their time and now earned a well deserved retirement.
The old EJ20s are the best in my book. The EJ207 in particular which has thicker cylinder walls and a semi closed deck block. Also has AVCS which is like Subaru's version of VTEC bby
I think just v7 forward have the fancy heads. I have EJ207 v6 in my wagon and I am pretty sure they have fixed timing (less complicated ECU work for a swap).
Vtec is variable valve timing and variable valve lift. While AVCS is just just valve timing.
Most of the EJ engines in the WRX and STI are semi-closed deck blocks... Only a select few early ones had actual closed deck blocks. Also, AVCS until 2008 was only on the intake cam, from 2008 onwards in the EJ257, it has been dual AVCS. Makes a massive difference... You are on point about the thicker cylinder walls, though.
@@justinranes3351 that's ivtec
@@VeliRajasaar Yes there were a few fully closed deck blocks but I believe those were race only motors and I thought all of them were given to Prodrive for the WRC championship. There is a company called subi performance in Deutschland who will convert open deck blocks into semi-closed or fully closed deck
This show has really evolved with jeremiah...I loved it before and I love it more now😃😃
Here 4 years later as an owner of a new Ascent waiting for the STI still 😅
Currently watching this in my 23 WRX sad there is no STI.
There are reasons why that old engine became an icon, so there are more things to ask for, like the rumble sound for starters, a great manual transmission, in a way to keep the tradition of the brand that kept people fascinated with the STI for so many years.
I'm just mad that the Outback got the FA24, and the Forester just got a "sport" APPEARANCE TRIM while losing the FA20.
Same here bro. I'd be willing to trade in my fozz for a turbo model if they came out with a new one
Yea they need to bring back the fxt with the new engine
Lol ikr
Needs POWAH BABEH
Does sound like the 2022 model will be adding a turbo....just watch them only put it in a Wilderness trim
You forgot to mention port injection also helps keeping your intake valves clean, on the other hand direct injection doesn't, but yeah it is way better overall than port injection, especially if your aim is power and efficiency. Get your catch cans ready...
New wrx has shown to consistently do 350whp with an intake and a protune (conservatively). And MUCH more with an e85 tune (which the stock fuel system can take) .. there is your “sti”
I Have one. Can confirm the engine is incredible.
i love the way you guys broke this down and made it educational instead of just stating the facts
That little “Woo!” at 3:15. 😁
[Everyone liked that]
the length of the timing chain in that engine gives me anxiety
It's very tin, it's going to stretch
Well at least it's an engine that wont blow by 3k miles, I have 3 different friends that have had an engine blow before 8k miles. Subaru finally got their shit together I'm excited!
@@wlteemo2734 They do proper break in? Drove it somewhat normal?
It’s two chains. One chain for one head another for the other head.
@@justinranes3351 TWO CHAINZZZZ!!
When is science garge coming back? I miss it so much.
Bart had a kid and left, he probably won't be coming back
I really hope they put dual port injection in the car, direct injection has too many downfalls. And I don't care if unequal length headers cause less power I want them!
If it don't come with unequal length headers then the first aftermarket parts will be unequal length headers.
Subie Rumble 4 Life!
Veterror yes! I own a 2020 WRX and I’m disappointed with the sound of not having the UEL headers. Hope Subaru keeps the UEL headers regardless of what is more efficient and makes more power!
@@ZFA1738 just buy the aftermarket uel headers for like $700 then waste another few hundred on a tune for less power.
Zach Hovey I just might for the sound! It’s not a waste of money to me! I’m not poor lol only poor people can waste money.
@@ZFA1738 wouldnt a not-poor person have just bought an STI? Just kiddin, but yeah respect so long as you got passion - just ask yer tuner what you should expect in the long run. Curious if ringland failures would plague the new WRX again if UELs are used.
I just hopped on to this series this episode, and this style is so good for new car people or people that don’t know some stuff. If someone didn’t understand the engine codes for some cars, they’d have to look everything up themselves, but in this series, it’s explained to the basics and then brings the main topic, and I love it!
I'll be honest, at first I thought you weren't going to make a good host but the more I watch you the more you own this show. Great vid Jeremiah, looking forward to next week :)
0:55 if I remember correctly that's a long stroke engine built for torque. Also this implies that the WRX and the sti will have different engines from now on ...
@G M97 my 08 wrx has the 2.5 liter
@G M97 EJ25 for the North American market only as of recently.
@@gen1c8rs88 The STI has the EJ25, the WRX has the FA20 in the US
The wrx only had the same engine from 08 to 14. Thats the only time they have shared an engine in the us market I believe
@@natesmith9007 In '06-'07, the STI had the EJ257 while the WRX had the EJ255. They were practically the same engine, with slightly different pistons. I think the 257 was dished more? But practically the same engine.
I feel like after watching these B2B episodes I could go take the final exam of an mechanical engineering class and nail it.
Finally remembered who the host reminds me of. It is the singer of blink 128 lol.
I haven't drove a turbocharged Subaru but my wife's 2019 Outback has a 3.6R flat 6 and I luv that motor.
to the engineer out there creating cad models for B2B shows, respect!
It’s great to see Tom DeLonge (ex Blink 182) doing stuff again. Keep it up mate.
Oh boy, the good old days when we thought we were getting an STI...
We still got the engine at least
Donut, please, PLEASE give mad props to the person who makes the animations. All those little details make the videos even better. Also, Jeremiah is a cool cat! I really enjoy him as a presenter. 😎👍
This is great, from an FA20DIT owner we asked for an upgrade in power and boy did we get one
People love to shit on Jeremiah but you can tell dude is putting his heart and soul into making this series not only accessible and friendly. but fun as fuck too. Love this guy. Somebody buy him an FA Subie
Sooo they gonna put this engine in the BRZ? Or they gonna still try and find a way to justify charging the same amount for a BRZ as the WRX
I’d buy a BRZ with this engine in it - Jeremiah
Different chassis, different purpose
If you don’t already understand the core values of cars like the BRZ, no amount of explaining we do will help, so feel free to stop asking. You’ve made up your mind that the WRX is better, but I don’t think it’s too much to ask that people just appreciate all the cars we have to choose from before they go away. Pizza’s an excellent and extremely versatile food, but so is a Stromboli.
Current rumors are they will put this engine in the new BRZ sans the turbo. If it proves true, the hate will be tremendous.
That last engine they put in the BRZ😬
The HP quoted for any of those models is not to the wheel, expect about 22% loss from drivetrain
Yeah neither is literally ANY Subaru's cars. The STI doesn't make 300ish either. Its closer to 220 or 240
All cars power ratings are in the crank( BHP), if it's on the wheels it's WHP.
@@jdmking4776 Pretty sure thats exactly what he said....
@@jdmking4776 lol, my 93' makes over 400 with the ej22t factory engine.
with over 190k on the odometer its been a good family car. glad i have another 93' and a 90 aswell. the sport sedan legacy model was by far a hit, as was the svx.
@@constitutionalrepublican1611 Yeah my setup makes about 550whp on e85. 350 on pump gas. I run a stroker ej205. I'm at 249,XXX miles right now. The GC8 is a good chassis.
great video, sad subaru let us down.
People that dislike this video need to take up their complaints with Subaru
Donut media did an amazing job on this video. 🤙
My family just bought a new Ascent. The car pulls like crazy and it weighs 4,600 lbs. I cannot begin to imagine what that would feel like in a WRX.
It’s pretty fun at first to 2nd but after that it it’s mellower but that also means the car isn’t smooth to drive normally half of the time no matter who you are, point is fun but you have to want it 😅
Anyone else really want that sleeper crosstrek 👀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Also a sleeper Impreza...
That would be awesome :)
Not with the crappy CVT.
It's like Mazda has done with their entire fleet in recent years. They all use the same 4 cyl engine, some are 2.0l others are 2.5l, they have different tunes + turbo according to the job they're supposed to do, and engine placement in the bay (some are facing sideways, others are forward) and that's how they get different power.
Most of nowadays engines are built this way, that's why an ECU remap is so effective, sometimes the only difference between two models is the electronic configuration.
That’s what Subaru used to do. The problem is engines that are made to do everything usually don’t do any one thing particularly well. The EJ is a great example of that.
There’s also a reason you don’t find aftermarket turbo kits for current Mazda engines, and there aren’t a lot of bolt ons for the current Miata: the engines aren’t made to handle that.
Day ♾️ of asking for what everyone is asking for aka: up to speed on your cars.🙂
Well Im sold.. Im going to sell my Focus ST and put it towards a new subi i want 2022 with this new FA engine.. Bolt ons and a tune and im over 400HP without having to really do any major work.. hell yeah.. I want white with red or black accents and manual trans..
Subaru keeps making the STI better and better. I currently own an Outback 3.6r cause I need the DadWagon. But as soon as my kids are off to college I will be getting an STI. With all the improvements I am happy to wait for that day!
except for the exterior.
I really hope they somehow find a way to keep UEL headers for the new STI's, because that sweet subie rumble is the best car sound to ever exist imo. There's no other sound like it. If the new ones don't have it, I'll stick to old ones.
Are people actually mad about this evolution? It's still a flat four. Still has character.
I'd say it's an upgrade but I hope they put bigger cams tho if they want to make more power for the sti
Janrey Siano sti heads r ported
@@That-guy0801 yes they are but the guy just said they might do direct or ported injection, maybe both just like the brz. I'd say do direct because its efficient but less durability on it
#BringScienceGarageBack
Maybe with Jeremiah or however it's spelled
Bart was cool
I love Bart but its time to move on. 😥
Welp, Jerewhoever is kinda doing the same thing but I'd like to see him do it more as Bart did
J Z you’re comment is the sad truth
Direct Injection has also bad side , at cold temperatures the gaz can by-pass the piston rings and drop into the oil pan, mixing Oil / Gaz for oil dilution. This was a MAJOR issue in Honda's GDI "Earth Dreams"
I'm glad I subscribed to your guys' channel now, not only do I understand why the new Subaru STI motor is better than its predecessor, I also have a much better understanding on how a motor works in general. Props to you guys at Donut!!!
My favorite 4 banger is the V4 from the Porsche 919
Mine is the V4 from the Lancia Fulvia. :)
That power is not "to the wheels" it's engine output. The 2022 will be close to 400 output, probably more like 330 to the wheels
Which is still amazing for a factory whp number
@@patio6 yeah
B2B is great to watch when you wanna take a break James screaming at the top of his lungs
I have had my 2019 BRZ Limited for a year now and I gotta say it is so much fun to drive everyday. Trying to pay it off fast so I can just garage it and have it be my fun weekend or just summer car. Its going to be a classic for sure.
Just gotta say I really appreciate the progress bar for the endorsement/advertisement.
I’m so excited to see what the Sti comes out with
Little did you know the "ej" engine was first released in a legacy not WRX
"THE MORE YOU KNOW"
And an H6 is an ej design with a couple of extra cylinders-pistons
Imagine
If donut media races carwow and doug demuro
That would be sike
Okay I now have the 2018 STi and as soon as the new STi comes out with this engine IM GETTING IT
Man the Donut Videos are getting better and better not only the content but the ANIMATION and EXPLANATIONS too! ALL RESPECT FOR THE TEXT EDITORS AND ANIMATORS OF DONUT MEDIAAAAAAA MOH PAWA BABIEEEEEEEEEEEEEYEAAHAAHHA
You have really come into your own as a presenter, and this science segment is a perfect match.
Congratulations Subaru. You've finally made an engine that's just as strong as my 30 year old 6bolt 4g63t.
I dont know why im so in Cars. Im only 14 but this feels alive to me :,)
Thank you Donut.
i just picked up my 8th car of my life the 2006 Subaru Impreza 2.5i. I dont want to drive it hard till i get it on the lift tue but all i can do is watch Donut till then.
All subarus share a variation on a similar block
The ea series (pre ej) had a 1.6 and a 1.8 version and a 6 cylinder version of the ea called the ER27
then you had the ej series that had a range of sizes with the same block just cylinder bores ranging from 1.6L to 2.5L
You can take turbo heads off of a 2008 wrx and put them on your 1.6L 1992 impreza block and it will run with an ecu flash or a dohc spec computer and the computor will think it's just business as usual lol.
I have an 99 outback sport and it only ever came with a ej16/ej18/ej22 and i have a 2.5L ej253 in my outback sport running on the stock ecu because almost every subaru engine is the same as long as they have the same type of heads (sohc or dohc)
Saying that the wrx and the Forester have the same motor is the same as it has always been. Just different internals, manifolds, heads, and other minor stuff.
Finally someone who knows something about subaru. YT comments are full of people who have no idea what they are talking about.
Literally non of the comments are about the video.
“Awesome video guys” , “great animation guys”, “liking this new show guys”
Smh.
Uhh yeah about that... i think there are a lot of comments about the show
People are having conversations about the videos, Subaru’s, and cars in general all over. I get the sentiment, but this is FAR from the worse channel for that.
stradman comments are often memes. Non car channels are even worse.
Kills me everytime I hear about the boxer engine without mentioning vw.
FLAT 4 FOR LIFE BEBEH!
VW for the air cooled flat 4, Alfa Romeo for the water cooled flat 4. Both got forgotten to an extent sadly
Kids these days, with their flat-4s that are still in production
@11:03 i thought he was going to really go get that drip thing for the honey. Much sadness ):
The reason Toyota uses Port and Direct injection is to also clean the backside of the valves that get massive carbon build up. Direct injection's fuel never comes in contact with the back of the valve thus over time the valve getting carbon and soot built up that reduces efficiency. Port injection's fuel gets sprayed onto the back side of the valve thus cleaning it with the built in fuel detergents. Just ask VW how they cheated the EPA because their direct injection engines became less efficient rather quickly due to direct injection. VW/Bosch had the ECU to lean the fuel mixture out when the ECU sensed the emissions system being plugged in.
An often made mistake is to consider Boxer and flat engines one and the same, when they aren't actually. In a flat engine (not a boxer), a pairs of pistons share a crankpin. In a true boxer engine, every piston has its own crankpin. The result of the boxer motor’s use of individual crankpins is that the pistons on either side move opposite one another, which helps to cancel out engine vibration. The back-and-forth motion of the pistons resembles the punches of a boxer, which is where the engine gets its name.