Totally agree! I'm one of those many people who wouldn't buy a vehicle that did not have a spare tire. Means nothing until you need it, and then it can mean a whole lot.
Alex, You could equip your cat 3:40 with a camera to provide unique under chassis perspectives while saving a fortune on the cost of buying a hoist. 😸😸
I love the idea of having a Toyota hybrid in Mazda. But rather than doing a cost cutting, Mazda should have focused more on luxury (better interior quality,, touch sensitive bigger screen, wireless car play), handling (independent rear suspension), ride quality (wider tires and bigger discs) and practicality aspects (more legroom, bigger wireless charger) etc.,. I love to see Toyota's hybrid system in bigger full size vans(like Mercedes sprinter or Ford transit) which campers usually prefer. The hybrid will give more mpg and 110V outlet practicality. But at the same time, I would love to see a Toyota/ Lexus car with Mazda's 3.3L inline six engine with Toyota's hybrid.
It's not an aftermarket thing to enable the carplay touch while in motion. It is in the settings on every trim that allows it to work with the touch screen while driving
The price is excellent for that size and power. I am definitely a Subaru guy but I can respect a decent Mazda. I've been watching your channel for years due to the amount of info you give. On Mazda I definitely think a touch screen would be beneficial but being one of the few car brands who use the dials for their infotainment system, I can respect their wanting to be different. The gauges in that are very user friendly and simple. I like that. The hybrid model getting 39 mpg is awesome for sure while keeping the Mazda "fun to drive" aspect. Speaking to a non car person is always fun because you see how they view the car world and all the gadgets. I have spoke to several while working at a large multi-brand dealer and most people don't ask for a hybrid, most want just the gas version. Just my experience. All in all I always like your reviews and even though I may not agree with some statements, I respect what you do. Thanks for another great video!
Wow, impressive!! As long-time Toyota owners who have been disappointed in the lack of an upscaled interior, this might be a subcompact to consider! Up until now I had decided on a Tucson Limited hybrid or PHEV because of all the features, improvements for ‘25 and backseat leg room, but may have to reconsider and go test drive the Mazda CX-50. Thanks for all your great reviews!!!
I don’t know if I’m in the minority here but I really dislike this. It doesn’t have CX-50’s off road chops and ground clearance which is why I would buy a CX-50 over a CX-5. I feel like this is better suited for the CX-5 than the 50.
@@samuelm5140there should be a Signature version of CX-50 like CX-5. Meaning NO cladding at all. It looks ok on the blk color. Dk blu as well. But ugly as dog poop on any light colors.
I have a Honda Element. I would love for the Honda Element to be brought back into production with this Toyota hybrid system. They would sell like crazy.
@@AAutoBuyersGuideWhy? Honda has gone its own way with their hybrid which operates MUCH more like an EV. I’m happy to have to different choices that are both excellent.
Other Auto reviewers have said that you can use Android auto and Apple carplay as a touch screen when the car is in motion. Who is right ? . Great review and information 👍👍. Keep up the great work! 🙂
The cost of the higher trim compared to my RAV4 Hybrid XSE is the same. However, I have a 360 degree camera and digital mirror. Both of these are not offered on the Mazda.
Mazda design is way over the rest of its competitors, and their interiors can't be beat as far as elegance, simplicity and use of materials, Their mechanical and electical systems are top notch.
I find the CX-50 Hybrid rather interesting. I currently lease a 2024 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid, but my last car was a 2015 Mazda 3. So something that combines the best of both worlds has my interest. There are things I miss about the Mazda. I actually really liked the infotainment system and the controller and found it easier to use while driving than trying to use a touch screen. I actually miss that. I also miss having a dedicated compartment for my sunglasses. The interior materials were also superior in the Mazda with a wonderful mix of soft touch materials in several places that are now mostly hard plastic in the much more expensive Toyota. The Mazda was also a joy to drive in terms of handling. The Toyota isn't bad, but it rides much higher so it's not going to handle getting thrown into turns in general. Your video is the first I've seen on the CX-50 that has anything negative to say about the handling, but most of the others aren't taking it out on winding mountain roads. Thank you for that input. Overall, I still like what I'm hearing. The Toyota hybrid fuel economy is amazing and I get similar highway fuel economy and always better city fuel economy in the larger and heavier Corolla Cross than I did in the Mazda 3. I waited for years to Mazda to bring over the Skyactiv-X engine or even a mild hybrid CX-30 like they have in other markets, but they never did. I had been wanting to get a hybrid for awhile, but Mazda just wasn't bringing an affordable one out in the US. I was considering the CX-30, but when I came across a Corolla Cross Hybrid XSE with most of the features I wanted and in the color I wanted, I jumped on it. But there are certainly things I miss from Mazda. All that said, if I had to choose another model that I would like to see a Toyota hybrid system in, I would LOVE to see the Mazda CX-30 get the 5th Generation 2.0L hybrid out of the Corolla Cross and Prius. That would probably be my ideal vehicle. I'm curious to see the next Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid as well. I prefer the smaller cars and crossovers than the CX-5 or CX-50. We'll see what happens in the next couple years.
The detail here is very helpful, especially comparison with the CRV and RAV4. Looks like the RAV4 is the toughest competitor and you cover a few details that could be the deciding factor. The effectiveness of the AWD might be different- any ideas? In snow the clearance a tires might be decisive?
I still think the CX-5 is still the looker of the segment even if it's already the oldest. Honda CR-V comes second then the CX-50. I do think the CX-50 is more handsome than the new RWD Mazdas, which look awkward.
@5:24 LED signal lights are now designed not to just blink on/off but to emulate the slow on/off of incandescent bulbs. Seeing that incandescent bulbs cost a fraction of LED lights and are much easier to service, one has to wonder what problems were we trying to solve in switching to LEDs in cars.
LED’s use a fraction of the wattage of incandescent lamps for similar brightness. Sure, turn signals alone are minor, but the philosophy behind hybrids (and EV’s) is efficiency, so LED’s for all lamps are consistent with that. Making them fade on and off is a style choice to appear more elegant. Meh. I’d love to claim they last longer, but we’ve all seen bars of LED’s with inoperative elements.
I only wish that there was a true base Select trim that doesn't include a slow power lift gate that you're forced to buy with the current CX-50 hybrid trims. Actually, what I really want to see is a CX-30 hybrid because this CX-50 hybrid is 4000 pounds and really pricey. Black headliner for both the CX-50/30 would be way more luxurious than the current tacky greige headliner.
I also had a 2015 Mazda3 and kept wanting that too. I got tired of waiting for Mazda to bring over Skyactiv-X or the mild hybrid system that they have in the CX-30 in other markets. I ended up getting a 2024 Corolla Cross Hybrid. Fuel economy is fantastic, but I miss a lot of things from the Mazda3. Interior quality being a big one. I also liked Mazda's infotainment system. Even something as simple as the dedicated sunglasses compartment is something I miss. If Mazda borrowed the 5th Generation Hybrid system from the Corolla Cross and Prius and crammed it into the CX-30, I think it would be amazing.
Toyota said this powertrain was available to license forever ago. They said theyd have no qualms of people using it in the name of reducing emissions, and this was back in the gen 1 prius days
Spot on in this review video. I'm leaning towards a new Camry or Civic Hybrid only because they are hybrids, but this CX 50 hybrid looks awfully tempting.
The rav4 is officially finished. It’s history There’s no need for it to exist anymore. Why would anyone buy a rav4 that’s poor quality overpriced, noisy etc when they can get a Mazda that’s more attractive inside and out, and better to drive, quieter and more refined, and likely a lot cheaper than a rav4?
@@ALMX5DPhow can there be a place for both if the rav4 is a lot more expensive, its interior, materials and build quality are far worse, it’s a lot noisier on the road, it drives far worse, etc.? The Mazda is simply better in every way and cheaper too. You’re not getting thousands of dollars more reliability or quality on the rav4 vs the Mazda
@@naveenthemachine similar price and as I mentioned in the other comment you injected your bias into, the ride has its pros and cons so that’s a wash too.
@@ALMX5DP on paper they’re similar but remember the rav4 hybrid has a base model that’s nowhere near as nice as the base cx50 hybrid. Even the xle hybrid is nowhere near as nice. You’d have to get a limited trim to be nearly as nice as a cx50 but that model is significantly more expensive. And considering how difficult the rav4 hybrid is to find without markups at least where I live the rav4 will likely be even more expensive in the real world
I am in the market for one of these. Having looked at a RAV4 hybrid and Kia Sportage hybrid, and having a last generation Mazda3, which I love, I can see getting one of these. But the things I love about my Mazda3 are not liked in your review, so I think Mazda missed me in their market targeting. Thinking strongly now about Hyundai Tucson hybrid because of 6 speed trans and more space. If the interior of the CX-50 isn’t much bigger than my Mazda3, then why get it?
Alex, I love your vids, I am from Canada and I pretty much watch your reviews, Motor Mouth, Kirk Kreifels, Savagegeese and Car Care Nut exclusively. But it really hurts my ears when people from the US of A say "Mozda" or "Nisson". I don't understand why, there is no "o" in either name, and there is also no short "o" sound in the Japanese language at all (I have been going there coming up on 35 years). By the way, I own and love a 2019 CX5 GT Turbo but I am waiting to see what the new CX5 hybrid will end up being. The CX50 is great for exterior styling but I hit my head every time i get into one (test drove one when they first came out and had one for a week long rental when staying in Houston recently) as well the 1980s Chevy citation rear suspension is really a joke, this is not the Mazda way of doing things... USA assembly is a major red flag for me, there are already quite a few people getting new transmissions at around 7000 miles and other warranty issues coming from the Alabama plant assembly. I also had interest in the Corolla Cross until I heard where it would be made. I hope the CX5 will continue to be made in Japan where every Japanese vehicle should be made.
The premium Mazda is very well placed in between the upper mass-market Toyota and the entry luxury Lexus, the only real competitor being the Crown line of Toyota. But Mazda clearly wins through the better handling and nicer design, helped niw also by the hybrid system from its minority shareholder, Toyota. However, people interested more in the comfort and the physical buttons would be happy in Crown.
I'm wondering about the lower ground clearance, I think I would just opt for the gas version because of this. Plus it's not a PHEV, which is even less attractive.
What about something like a Miata...? I know the CRZ tried but this would be RWD, over 200 hp and have more torque than a Civic Si/GR86. I know it is far from a possibility especially if it hurts 86/BRZ sales but I think that could be an amazing pairing. Otherwise for a more mainstream car, I think Toyota themselves have created the best options...think having different and more exiciting models with this powertrain would be icing on the cake.
I'd like the Toyota hybrid to go after fleets with a Rav4 pickup/van. I know CAFE won't allow that but maybe if they can figure out their Prime production they can.
Wrong, it’s not exactly like CX50 Gas model you stated in your opening. The hybrid is raised up 2” and the black wheel cladding are enlarged to balance the difference in height between it and the gas model. This also affects the rear seating position meaning less headroom for passengers.
Is ecvt transmission exactly same as rav4 as well. Does anyone still remember Pontiac vibe, the same Toyota Corolla or matrix drivetrain with gm Pontiac body on it. I guess this cx50 is in the same way.
Why does every reviewer saw it looks exactly the other CX 50s? Look at the space between the tires and wheel wells, I can clearly see it sits higher. I think it tones down the station wagon look a little.
My concern would be getting it serviced. Would you take it to a Toyota dealership? Due to the greater popularity of the RAV4, I'd guess that model is a better prospect if you're planning to keep the vehicle more than 5 or 6 years.
@AAutoBuyersGuide, have you asked why Mazda doesn't try to ameliorate some of the handling deficiencies of the torsion beam rear end with a Watts link? I'm fairly sure that Chevrolet and Buick do that with their cheaper offerings (Trailblazer, Envista, etc.) to improve their handling despite their inclusion of a torsion beam rear suspension. Couldn't Mazda do that on the cheap, too?
Its nice but I have some "huh" moments about Mazda's decisions. Interesting the drive mode is called "Power" in the display, but on the shifter it still has an "S" for Sport. I THINK there's an option, rather buried in settings to allow touch screen in motion, if its anything like some other Mazda software. No 360 view camera is a bad decision. In fact I find the backup camera quality very lacking and absolutely NO trajectory? What year is this again? I'm kinda curious why Mazda didn't borrow the full LCD gauge cluster from the CX70/90 in the higher trim CX-50 Hybrids. They could have used it to bring that "wow" factor and showcase the technology (it is a hybrid after all). It would also give them screen real-estate to show where the power is coming and going (EV / Combustion Engine, Regen Brake, etc...). It would have been a great time to revise the rear suspension to multi-link since they had to adjust the chassis a bit to fit the Toyota power train. Missed opportunity here. I'll wait to see what the next year brings. Maybe they are saving some features for 2026 MY to say there are some improvements. Things like 360 degree camera, better reverse camera with trajectory, Full LCD Gauge cluster, larger phone charging area, rear camera LCD rear-view mirror, lane keep assist, etc... Overall nice start, I just think it can get better from here. I would say this is just a first draft, and I'm a little disappointed it took this long to get to this point, but this is still going to sell like hotcakes. I'm gonna hold off to see if they add some of those other features in the next model year.
Incorrect comment about not being able to use the touchscreen while vehicle is in motion… You can disable that in the settings, allowing you to touch the screen while the vehicle is in motion
Watching your review of the turbo cx50 and this one has me pretty split…it seems to take a significant hit in handling, which seems like it would kill the main selling point for the cx50? Even without the fastest powertrain if it handled like a Mazda it should still feel sporty, but it seems like that’s lost here. Feels like a miss.
With bigger claddings its certainly lost that elegant look from the side. I bet its the same feeling riding 1.4 inch higher. So given the two, I rather go Rav4 for the higher mpg. Perhaps and hopefully Mazda has time in coming years to refine this hybrid. Unless they plan to introduce that refinement in the new CX5.
Really sad to hear it still has a cheap torsion beam setup in the rear. Interesting that the RAV4 with IRS is lighter than the CX50. I find the interior of the CX50 to be a downgrade compared to the CX 5. The vertical vents look wrong with the horizontal theme
I agree it is one of the best looking smaller SUVs. They definitely need to overhaul the rear suspension and get rid of the torsion beam. I'm guessing they prioritized a miniscule gain in rear cargo space and beaN counting over better suspension design.
CX-50 isn't small IMO. It's too large for my taste just like the CX-5. The CX-30 is just the right size & a true compact SUV (just like its Mazda3 platform non-SUV sibling).
Alex, why do you never talk about the complete invasion of privacy that comes with modern cars? Tracking your face, your voice, your location, selling data to insurance companies, to law enforcement, trying to tell you ads in your car... Car content creators are complacent in this. If all you spoke out against it they would stop what they are doing.
Mainly because it is often overblown if pure myth. There is zero evidence of car companies selling data to law enforcement. There is also zero evidence of car companies face tracking and storing that data. The face tracking systems currently around are isolated to the vehicle and driver attention monitoring only. Location tracking and other data collection is something you have to agree to in the system to operate certain functions. All Google based cars have an extensive privacy policy available that you have to agree to in order to use the systems. Buyers should always read the privacy details if they are concerned. This is a case of caveat emptor.
No it wouldn’t. The next gen RAV4 has no chance to compete. Because Toyotas not known for being truly competitive anyway because they don’t even know how to compete
Subaru uses Toyota’s basic building blocks but stuffs them inside a unique Subaru case designed around a “RWD layout” with the transmission mounted longitudinally rather than transversely. Mazda just uses the Toyota system without modification.
The head restraints suck. In fairness, so do the head restraints on the Crown Signia, RAV4, Tucson, CX-90, CX-5, pretty much every new car except the 2024 Lincoln Nautilus.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide The 2024 Nautilus has a 4-way adjustable head restraint, so does the 2024 Lincoln Corsair. Everything else I've sat in or test driven recently has only two-way (up and down) and the headrest is set too far forward for me, so much so that it can take the muscles in my upper back a day to recover from the painful torture. The Corsair can be adjusted to be better than the others, but the Nautilus can be adjusted to be RIGHT for me. I've only sat in the 2024 Nautilus thus far, I'll be test driving one soon. I've test driven the 2022, no bueno on the headrest it's 2 way. I'm less than pleased that I may end up having to spend $15k more just because some friggin' bureaucrats in the government and almost all the bean counters at the car makers think that one-size-fits-all is acceptable. Their "safety" feature causes ME injury in everyday use, no collision required. I'm not unique in this, about 10-15% of the population doesn't fit the one-size. It's not actually even a size issue. It's posture. Most head restraints force me to hunch over.
It really is a shame that Mazda didn't use some of the length for the passenger compartment. I'd love to get one, but the back row is a hard no with kids in car seats.
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I just love that we have more hybrid options with a real spare tire and not just an inflator kit
Totally agree! I'm one of those many people who wouldn't buy a vehicle that did not have a spare tire. Means nothing until you need it, and then it can mean a whole lot.
As a mobile tire tech, I've yet to see a Mazda that didn't have a spare tire. That's a rare thing and a huge bonus to me
@@holmd90Yes, a spare is a bonus.
But I don't have one on my Miata ND2 RF (not that I ever needed one).
Alex, You could equip your cat 3:40 with a camera to provide unique under chassis perspectives while saving a fortune on the cost of buying a hoist. 😸😸
She’s way, way, way too lazy for that…
@@AAutoBuyersGuide 🙀
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The hybrid version of the CX-50 is the only one to consider IMO. I'm waiting for the smaller CX-30 hybrid version, if it ever happens.
I love the idea of having a Toyota hybrid in Mazda. But rather than doing a cost cutting, Mazda should have focused more on luxury (better interior quality,, touch sensitive bigger screen, wireless car play), handling (independent rear suspension), ride quality (wider tires and bigger discs) and practicality aspects (more legroom, bigger wireless charger) etc.,.
I love to see Toyota's hybrid system in bigger full size vans(like Mercedes sprinter or Ford transit) which campers usually prefer. The hybrid will give more mpg and 110V outlet practicality. But at the same time, I would love to see a Toyota/ Lexus car with Mazda's 3.3L inline six engine with Toyota's hybrid.
It's not an aftermarket thing to enable the carplay touch while in motion. It is in the settings on every trim that allows it to work with the touch screen while driving
Yup, in my 25 CX-5, it's in the Bluetooth connectivity settings for your phone. Makes a big difference!
Enough ground clearance to fit a cat under
Essentially a Toyota with Mazda Style and a Mazda Price Tag. Cork FTW!
The price is excellent for that size and power. I am definitely a Subaru guy but I can respect a decent Mazda. I've been watching your channel for years due to the amount of info you give. On Mazda I definitely think a touch screen would be beneficial but being one of the few car brands who use the dials for their infotainment system, I can respect their wanting to be different. The gauges in that are very user friendly and simple. I like that. The hybrid model getting 39 mpg is awesome for sure while keeping the Mazda "fun to drive" aspect. Speaking to a non car person is always fun because you see how they view the car world and all the gadgets. I have spoke to several while working at a large multi-brand dealer and most people don't ask for a hybrid, most want just the gas version. Just my experience. All in all I always like your reviews and even though I may not agree with some statements, I respect what you do. Thanks for another great video!
The internet needs more people like you
Still scratching my head, why Mazda gave 360 camera and parking sensors for Canadian trims only. It's ridiculous
Wow, impressive!! As long-time Toyota owners who have been disappointed in the lack of an upscaled interior, this might be a subcompact to consider! Up until now I had decided on a Tucson Limited hybrid or PHEV because of all the features, improvements for ‘25 and backseat leg room, but may have to reconsider and go test drive the Mazda CX-50. Thanks for all your great reviews!!!
You need to check out the venza
Comparing a Top 10 (in fact a Top 5) Reliability and Low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) Japanese performer with a Korean clunker is pointless.
The Mazda over the Rav4 just on the much better interior.
I don’t know if I’m in the minority here but I really dislike this. It doesn’t have CX-50’s off road chops and ground clearance which is why I would buy a CX-50 over a CX-5. I feel like this is better suited for the CX-5 than the 50.
37 MPG and sexy looks and a high quality interior? TAKE MY MONEY 💰 🤑 💸
The CX50 looks so much better than the CX5.
Too much plastic cladding around the wheels for my taste
@@samuelm5140there should be a Signature version of CX-50 like CX-5. Meaning NO cladding at all. It looks ok on the blk color. Dk blu as well. But ugly as dog poop on any light colors.
Best in class imo.
74db cabin noise in the Integra is 'atrocious' but CX50 cabin noise at 71db is pleasant. Is that much of a difference?
I have a Honda Element. I would love for the Honda Element to be brought back into production with this Toyota hybrid system. They would sell like crazy.
I wish Toyota and Honda would get together on hybrid development, but it seems Honda is uninterested.
@@AAutoBuyersGuideWhy? Honda has gone its own way with their hybrid which operates MUCH more like an EV. I’m happy to have to different choices that are both excellent.
I have both hybrid systems and find Honda’s system more refined but both reliable
I wish Honda would have made an EV or hybrid Element.
Man I would buy that in a heartbeat-always wanted an Element
Other Auto reviewers have said that you can use Android auto and Apple carplay as a touch screen when the car is in motion. Who is right ? . Great review and information 👍👍. Keep up the great work! 🙂
Good perspective of what we have here with this Mazda CX 50.
There’s a setting in the screen that enables the touchscreen capability while you’re driving.
The cost of the higher trim compared to my RAV4 Hybrid XSE is the same. However, I have a 360 degree camera and digital mirror. Both of these are not offered on the Mazda.
Mazda design is way over the rest of its competitors, and their interiors can't be beat as far as elegance, simplicity and use of materials, Their mechanical and electical systems are top notch.
Unpopular opinion: Mazdas are only fine looking, I don't think they look at all fantastic. They're not beautiful at all, but not ugly.
I find the CX-50 Hybrid rather interesting. I currently lease a 2024 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid, but my last car was a 2015 Mazda 3. So something that combines the best of both worlds has my interest. There are things I miss about the Mazda. I actually really liked the infotainment system and the controller and found it easier to use while driving than trying to use a touch screen. I actually miss that. I also miss having a dedicated compartment for my sunglasses. The interior materials were also superior in the Mazda with a wonderful mix of soft touch materials in several places that are now mostly hard plastic in the much more expensive Toyota. The Mazda was also a joy to drive in terms of handling. The Toyota isn't bad, but it rides much higher so it's not going to handle getting thrown into turns in general. Your video is the first I've seen on the CX-50 that has anything negative to say about the handling, but most of the others aren't taking it out on winding mountain roads. Thank you for that input. Overall, I still like what I'm hearing. The Toyota hybrid fuel economy is amazing and I get similar highway fuel economy and always better city fuel economy in the larger and heavier Corolla Cross than I did in the Mazda 3. I waited for years to Mazda to bring over the Skyactiv-X engine or even a mild hybrid CX-30 like they have in other markets, but they never did. I had been wanting to get a hybrid for awhile, but Mazda just wasn't bringing an affordable one out in the US. I was considering the CX-30, but when I came across a Corolla Cross Hybrid XSE with most of the features I wanted and in the color I wanted, I jumped on it. But there are certainly things I miss from Mazda. All that said, if I had to choose another model that I would like to see a Toyota hybrid system in, I would LOVE to see the Mazda CX-30 get the 5th Generation 2.0L hybrid out of the Corolla Cross and Prius. That would probably be my ideal vehicle. I'm curious to see the next Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid as well. I prefer the smaller cars and crossovers than the CX-5 or CX-50. We'll see what happens in the next couple years.
The detail here is very helpful, especially comparison with the CRV and RAV4. Looks like the RAV4 is the toughest competitor and you cover a few details that could be the deciding factor. The effectiveness of the AWD might be different- any ideas? In snow the clearance a tires might be decisive?
I still think the CX-5 is still the looker of the segment even if it's already the oldest. Honda CR-V comes second then the CX-50. I do think the CX-50 is more handsome than the new RWD Mazdas, which look awkward.
Hands down... this is the car...
@5:24 LED signal lights are now designed not to just blink on/off but to emulate the slow on/off of incandescent bulbs. Seeing that incandescent bulbs cost a fraction of LED lights and are much easier to service, one has to wonder what problems were we trying to solve in switching to LEDs in cars.
LED’s use a fraction of the wattage of incandescent lamps for similar brightness. Sure, turn signals alone are minor, but the philosophy behind hybrids (and EV’s) is efficiency, so LED’s for all lamps are consistent with that. Making them fade on and off is a style choice to appear more elegant. Meh. I’d love to claim they last longer, but we’ve all seen bars of LED’s with inoperative elements.
I only wish that there was a true base Select trim that doesn't include a slow power lift gate that you're forced to buy with the current CX-50 hybrid trims. Actually, what I really want to see is a CX-30 hybrid because this CX-50 hybrid is 4000 pounds and really pricey. Black headliner for both the CX-50/30 would be way more luxurious than the current tacky greige headliner.
If Mazda keeps bringing the hybrid system to their other models then it'd be hard for me to resist trading in my 2015 Mazda3 for a CX-30 hybrid
I also had a 2015 Mazda3 and kept wanting that too. I got tired of waiting for Mazda to bring over Skyactiv-X or the mild hybrid system that they have in the CX-30 in other markets. I ended up getting a 2024 Corolla Cross Hybrid. Fuel economy is fantastic, but I miss a lot of things from the Mazda3. Interior quality being a big one. I also liked Mazda's infotainment system. Even something as simple as the dedicated sunglasses compartment is something I miss. If Mazda borrowed the 5th Generation Hybrid system from the Corolla Cross and Prius and crammed it into the CX-30, I think it would be amazing.
Toyota reliability? That's a generous statement these days...
Toyota said this powertrain was available to license forever ago. They said theyd have no qualms of people using it in the name of reducing emissions, and this was back in the gen 1 prius days
Spot on in this review video. I'm leaning towards a new Camry or Civic Hybrid only because they are hybrids, but this CX 50 hybrid looks awfully tempting.
Great review, thank you.
The rav4 is officially finished. It’s history
There’s no need for it to exist anymore. Why would anyone buy a rav4 that’s poor quality overpriced, noisy etc when they can get a Mazda that’s more attractive inside and out, and better to drive, quieter and more refined, and likely a lot cheaper than a rav4?
There seems to be a place for both in my view, and I suspect in the view of many typical customers.
@@ALMX5DPhow can there be a place for both if the rav4 is a lot more expensive, its interior, materials and build quality are far worse, it’s a lot noisier on the road, it drives far worse, etc.? The Mazda is simply better in every way and cheaper too. You’re not getting thousands of dollars more reliability or quality on the rav4 vs the Mazda
Same price as RAV4 Hybrid in CA. No mention if it picks up the Toyota 10 yr battery, 8 yr Hybrid system warranty. Non starter if not.
@@naveenthemachine similar price and as I mentioned in the other comment you injected your bias into, the ride has its pros and cons so that’s a wash too.
@@ALMX5DP on paper they’re similar but remember the rav4 hybrid has a base model that’s nowhere near as nice as the base cx50 hybrid. Even the xle hybrid is nowhere near as nice. You’d have to get a limited trim to be nearly as nice as a cx50 but that model is significantly more expensive. And considering how difficult the rav4 hybrid is to find without markups at least where I live the rav4 will likely be even more expensive in the real world
To enable the touch functionality with apple carplay or android auto you need to make a change in the settings
I am in the market for one of these. Having looked at a RAV4 hybrid and Kia Sportage hybrid, and having a last generation Mazda3, which I love, I can see getting one of these. But the things I love about my Mazda3 are not liked in your review, so I think Mazda missed me in their market targeting. Thinking strongly now about Hyundai Tucson hybrid because of 6 speed trans and more space. If the interior of the CX-50 isn’t much bigger than my Mazda3, then why get it?
To answer your question at the end....Crown Signia
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I'm glad you survived, Alex. 🦎
That looked like a wild cat , so be glad you were not attacked. Great videos!!
Alex, I love your vids, I am from Canada and I pretty much watch your reviews, Motor Mouth, Kirk Kreifels, Savagegeese and Car Care Nut exclusively. But it really hurts my ears when people from the US of A say "Mozda" or "Nisson". I don't understand why, there is no "o" in either name, and there is also no short "o" sound in the Japanese language at all (I have been going there coming up on 35 years).
By the way, I own and love a 2019 CX5 GT Turbo but I am waiting to see what the new CX5 hybrid will end up being. The CX50 is great for exterior styling but I hit my head every time i get into one (test drove one when they first came out and had one for a week long rental when staying in Houston recently) as well the 1980s Chevy citation rear suspension is really a joke, this is not the Mazda way of doing things... USA assembly is a major red flag for me, there are already quite a few people getting new transmissions at around 7000 miles and other warranty issues coming from the Alabama plant assembly. I also had interest in the Corolla Cross until I heard where it would be made. I hope the CX5 will continue to be made in Japan where every Japanese vehicle should be made.
So would you be better off servicing this car at a Toyota shop vs. a Mazda shop?
I always knew this channel could provide detailed catscans...
Meow
Hopefully there is a PHEV version as well at some point. And hopefully Toyota starts building their PHEVs in higher volume for the US.
The premium Mazda is very well placed in between the upper mass-market Toyota and the entry luxury Lexus, the only real competitor being the Crown line of Toyota.
But Mazda clearly wins through the better handling and nicer design, helped niw also by the hybrid system from its minority shareholder, Toyota.
However, people interested more in the comfort and the physical buttons would be happy in Crown.
Give me a Mazda with the interior packaging efficiency (and roominess) of a Honda.
I'm wondering about the lower ground clearance, I think I would just opt for the gas version because of this. Plus it's not a PHEV, which is even less attractive.
What about something like a Miata...? I know the CRZ tried but this would be RWD, over 200 hp and have more torque than a Civic Si/GR86. I know it is far from a possibility especially if it hurts 86/BRZ sales but I think that could be an amazing pairing. Otherwise for a more mainstream car, I think Toyota themselves have created the best options...think having different and more exiciting models with this powertrain would be icing on the cake.
it would be the best if it had indepent rear suspension..how does it compate the ticson hybid?
I'd like the Toyota hybrid to go after fleets with a Rav4 pickup/van. I know CAFE won't allow that but maybe if they can figure out their Prime production they can.
Wrong,
it’s not exactly like CX50 Gas model you stated in your opening.
The hybrid is raised up 2” and the black wheel cladding are enlarged to balance the difference in height between it and the gas model.
This also affects the rear seating position meaning less headroom for passengers.
Rear suspension is disappointing, I will probably wait for the 2026 RAV4 hybrid
Liked for the cat! :)
Is ecvt transmission exactly same as rav4 as well. Does anyone still remember Pontiac vibe, the same Toyota Corolla or matrix drivetrain with gm Pontiac body on it. I guess this cx50 is in the same way.
Are they going to use the same system in a CX30?
It doesn't look like it.
Why does every reviewer saw it looks exactly the other CX 50s? Look at the space between the tires and wheel wells, I can clearly see it sits higher. I think it tones down the station wagon look a little.
I wonder how the rear torsion beam suspension is at higher speed driving in terms of sure-footedness.
Mazda is better than Toyota in 2024. There, I said it.
Anything is better than Toyota in 2024
Mazda needs to stick to there own engine and transmission with these hybrid setups.
It will come in time
No question this would be my choice.
My concern would be getting it serviced. Would you take it to a Toyota dealership? Due to the greater popularity of the RAV4, I'd guess that model is a better prospect if you're planning to keep the vehicle more than 5 or 6 years.
No, it would go to a Mazda dealer for service. After warranty, any shop should be able to work on it
Actually on this vehicle you can use touchscreen while in motion.
Is this 4th generation Toyota hybrid system or 5th Gen??
fourth gen
@AAutoBuyersGuide, have you asked why Mazda doesn't try to ameliorate some of the handling deficiencies of the torsion beam rear end with a Watts link? I'm fairly sure that Chevrolet and Buick do that with their cheaper offerings (Trailblazer, Envista, etc.) to improve their handling despite their inclusion of a torsion beam rear suspension. Couldn't Mazda do that on the cheap, too?
The cat appearance I'm sure was scripted ;-)
More cat cameos please 😂
Does it have lane centering?
no
Its nice but I have some "huh" moments about Mazda's decisions. Interesting the drive mode is called "Power" in the display, but on the shifter it still has an "S" for Sport. I THINK there's an option, rather buried in settings to allow touch screen in motion, if its anything like some other Mazda software. No 360 view camera is a bad decision. In fact I find the backup camera quality very lacking and absolutely NO trajectory? What year is this again? I'm kinda curious why Mazda didn't borrow the full LCD gauge cluster from the CX70/90 in the higher trim CX-50 Hybrids. They could have used it to bring that "wow" factor and showcase the technology (it is a hybrid after all). It would also give them screen real-estate to show where the power is coming and going (EV / Combustion Engine, Regen Brake, etc...).
It would have been a great time to revise the rear suspension to multi-link since they had to adjust the chassis a bit to fit the Toyota power train. Missed opportunity here.
I'll wait to see what the next year brings. Maybe they are saving some features for 2026 MY to say there are some improvements. Things like 360 degree camera, better reverse camera with trajectory, Full LCD Gauge cluster, larger phone charging area, rear camera LCD rear-view mirror, lane keep assist, etc...
Overall nice start, I just think it can get better from here. I would say this is just a first draft, and I'm a little disappointed it took this long to get to this point, but this is still going to sell like hotcakes. I'm gonna hold off to see if they add some of those other features in the next model year.
Incorrect comment about not being able to use the touchscreen while vehicle is in motion… You can disable that in the settings, allowing you to touch the screen while the vehicle is in motion
Watching your review of the turbo cx50 and this one has me pretty split…it seems to take a significant hit in handling, which seems like it would kill the main selling point for the cx50? Even without the fastest powertrain if it handled like a Mazda it should still feel sporty, but it seems like that’s lost here. Feels like a miss.
I don't know why everybody still say "zoom-zoom" when they don't use it anymore.
It’s iconic
Great review. I love Mazda, but I would blindly buy an Outback with a Toyota hybrid system.
Why dont you mention the Ford Escape hybrid or plugin hybrid as the competition?
Because Ford has announced the end of Escape production already, 2025 is the last model year.
With bigger claddings its certainly lost that elegant look from the side. I bet its the same feeling riding 1.4 inch higher. So given the two, I rather go Rav4 for the higher mpg.
Perhaps and hopefully Mazda has time in coming years to refine this hybrid. Unless they plan to introduce that refinement in the new CX5.
Now if the CX-5 got this powertrain too...
3:36 your kitty? pretty grey color.
27:37 cx-50 hyb same price as rav4 hyb --- cx-50 winner! :)
Why would you buy a fake Toyota over the real one?
May be because it''s 10% cheaper?
But its not.
The real Toyota is worse in every way 😂 from the design to NVH to overall quality
@@naveenthemachine OK. I wouldn't argue because I drove neither of the two.
May be Alex helps with this dispute.
Did not have you pegged as a Bloodhound Gang guy… 15:18
Really sad to hear it still has a cheap torsion beam setup in the rear. Interesting that the RAV4 with IRS is lighter than the CX50. I find the interior of the CX50 to be a downgrade compared to the CX 5. The vertical vents look wrong with the horizontal theme
I agree it is one of the best looking smaller SUVs. They definitely need to overhaul the rear suspension and get rid of the torsion beam. I'm guessing they prioritized a miniscule gain in rear cargo space and beaN counting over better suspension design.
CX-50 isn't small IMO. It's too large for my taste just like the CX-5. The CX-30 is just the right size & a true compact SUV (just like its Mazda3 platform non-SUV sibling).
I think it’s probably the top pick in the class now and has the looks. Btw, Alex you are looking like a total snack. 🥵
What a wasted opportunity! There is so little headroom in the rear seat!
Alex, why do you never talk about the complete invasion of privacy that comes with modern cars? Tracking your face, your voice, your location, selling data to insurance companies, to law enforcement, trying to tell you ads in your car... Car content creators are complacent in this. If all you spoke out against it they would stop what they are doing.
Mainly because it is often overblown if pure myth. There is zero evidence of car companies selling data to law enforcement. There is also zero evidence of car companies face tracking and storing that data. The face tracking systems currently around are isolated to the vehicle and driver attention monitoring only. Location tracking and other data collection is something you have to agree to in the system to operate certain functions. All Google based cars have an extensive privacy policy available that you have to agree to in order to use the systems. Buyers should always read the privacy details if they are concerned. This is a case of caveat emptor.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide My comment keep getting deleted... Google "Mozilla car privacy not included" to learn more about the issue with modern car privacy.
At this point it might be better to wait and see next RAV4....?
No it wouldn’t. The next gen RAV4 has no chance to compete. Because Toyotas not known for being truly competitive anyway because they don’t even know how to compete
You gotta pet that kitty cat!
What is the Subaru twist for powertrain 1:28
Subaru uses Toyota’s basic building blocks but stuffs them inside a unique Subaru case designed around a “RWD layout” with the transmission mounted longitudinally rather than transversely. Mazda just uses the Toyota system without modification.
The NVH of the Toyota system when the 2.5L has to kick in is awful.
The head restraints suck. In fairness, so do the head restraints on the Crown Signia, RAV4, Tucson, CX-90, CX-5, pretty much every new car except the 2024 Lincoln Nautilus.
Why the Nautilus?
@@AAutoBuyersGuide The 2024 Nautilus has a 4-way adjustable head restraint, so does the 2024 Lincoln Corsair. Everything else I've sat in or test driven recently has only two-way (up and down) and the headrest is set too far forward for me, so much so that it can take the muscles in my upper back a day to recover from the painful torture. The Corsair can be adjusted to be better than the others, but the Nautilus can be adjusted to be RIGHT for me. I've only sat in the 2024 Nautilus thus far, I'll be test driving one soon. I've test driven the 2022, no bueno on the headrest it's 2 way. I'm less than pleased that I may end up having to spend $15k more just because some friggin' bureaucrats in the government and almost all the bean counters at the car makers think that one-size-fits-all is acceptable. Their "safety" feature causes ME injury in everyday use, no collision required.
I'm not unique in this, about 10-15% of the population doesn't fit the one-size. It's not actually even a size issue. It's posture. Most head restraints force me to hunch over.
Toyota, it's time to resurrect FJ cruiser with modern hybrid system.
Suzuki Jimny & Fisker Ocean with Toyota Hybrid.
Mazda's infotainment will forever make me not want any of their products
I wouldn’t buy it because of the infotainment system dial
Damn I want one
Venza limited looks more like Lexus and has the same drive.
I expect it's not going to be as noisy ride as the RAV4.
Giant compromise for fuel company.
It really is a shame that Mazda didn't use some of the length for the passenger compartment. I'd love to get one, but the back row is a hard no with kids in car seats.
Agree! Great looking vehicle though. That length goes straight to the longer hood for those great looks. I still like it over the CX-5.
Wonder the resale would be Like a Toyota
upcoming Sportage refresh prob a better overall package than this. Sportage Hybrid made in Korea.
Put a Toyota hybrid in an xt6.