Good to see a more substantial guard rail on the car top, as I feel car tops should have these, to lessen the risk of an engineer falling off the car top. I think there also should be grilles where the car top meets the counterweight. The guide wheel sounded like a small manic Dalek.
A great place to have lunch during a heatwave. 👍 That is a really impressive, clean and tidy motor room. I love how there is a PC to run dispatch, and how it can all be controlled like that.
Awsome lifts, interresting bit of software. Seems to run Windows XP on the laptop. Is it possible to change to the destination dispatch touch panel sound effects? I have worked in a building that had Schindler destination dispatch with that exact model of touchpad. Sadly the touchpads are of the resistive type which are not very good, you have press them quite hard to register. In the building I worked (a council office) you had to use a RF-id card to unlock the touchpad.
Most touch screens designed for the public to use are resistive. My guess is that its because people leave sweat and other debris on them, which would stop a capacitive screen working. Also as the people using the lift don't own the touch screen they are not so respectfull with it, so the screen needs to withstand abuse, which I am guessing resistive screens are better for this. Resistive touch screens are very inaccurate and need calibration all the time, so the user interface is always big and simple to allow for this. The most annoying thing is the temperature operating range is very limited. A lot of lift logics use computer programs that have not been updated in years. Some use win16 programs that don't work very well on vista onwards. Also the programs often need exclusive COM serial port access. To get these programs working we have to use a virtual machine.
@@benolifts 16 bit Windows programs... that brings back memories! It was just a shell ontop of DOS. Dos I hated back in the day (in the mid 90's) because it was damn difficult to get games to run properly at times, nowerdays I consider myself a DOS expert with optimizing Config.sys to have a much conventional memory as possible and still have mouse & cd-rom drivers work. There's a bit of an art to it, it's "High Loading" things into to the upper memory blocks.The simplicty and crudness of it has a certain charm, you can fit a functional OS on a single floppy disc.😁 The thing I hate the most at these resistive touch screens is that handwriting on them never works when you have sign for a parcel, those things are the worst. A capacitive screen with built-in Wacom digitzer works quite well.
In my office building here in bangkok I aslo heard the voice of the wheel rubbing too. Its feel awkward when you heard those noise, and because of this model was high speed elevator the cabin will move before the door completely closed at first time I ride I feel weird. 😅 Edit: sometimes the brake was heavy sometimes are light. Even no one was with me. However I love this brand cause it gives me smooth ride compared to others and I love their escalators too.
Come to the USA once the border reopens. We do have a few cheap lifts (3300, EcoSpace, etc.) but most are actually well built. The older (pre-2016) Gen2 has a proper chassis and runs at full speed with pre door. We also have the best generic lifts. For example, some companies still install the Hollister-Whitney geared machine, a design that is nearly 80 years old and will run forever as long as it is lubricated regularly.
At my office building the 7000 accelerates to either 4 or 6 m/s at the absolutely amazing rate of 1,35 m/s^2 😱 This lift really reminds me of them despite the fact they are not scenic.
Measured it with a accelerometer and verified with a Schindler mechanic there. Fastest accel with Car D and Car I (4m/s, a= 1.35 m/s^2), slowest accel with Car A and M (6m/s, a= 0.98 m/s^2). According to colleagues accel was reduced due to nausea of some passengers).
1 m/s/s is a crazy fast accel. In the UK you would never find a lift with such as fast accel. Even in Germany it is pretty much unheard of. It is because Schindler is the best lift company that they would set a lift to accel at such a fast rate, and not only that, the lift runs completely stable at 1 m/s/s. I can not think of any other models of lift that could completely cope with this, they either run slower despite reporting 1 m/s/s, or the lift becomes unstable and fails to level correctly. The only other lift that can achieve 1 m/s/s is Kone NMX series VF drives, but although these are very good, they don't have perfect intelligent leveling like the Schindler Miconic. So to answer your question, even though Schindlers can go up to 1.2 m/s/s, in practice they still don't accelerate faster than 1 m/s/s. As this is already extremely fast and the lifts already run perfectly, we felt no need to improve them.
@@benolifts That's fair enough, but it would be satisfying to see the general public have their leg strength tested (and their stomachs!). "Oh, here's my flo--- BEEEEEEEERKKK!"
@@benolifts Ok so it's simply me that did not get much luck when trying to install it on my PC... (Sure I did manage to get the software itself installed but without a license it was not going to work anytime soon) A chap online was asking for several hundreds of euros to give me a cracked unlimited license, which I've of course declined.
If Schindler didn't install shit like the 3300, generic companies would get all the contracts, or Otis would install a Gen 2. Developers shouldn't be allowed to install a 1.6m/s lift on a 30 floor building. If they aren't willing to spend money on a good lift, they shouldn't be building a 30 storey building.
All of the lifts I opened up in Shenzhen in China were crazy well built. They put English lifts to shame. But it was only recently I learnt how diverse Shenzhen is. I only saw the tourist areas when I was there. The non tourist areas would have been a very different story. I will have to return to there to have a proper look throughout the city rather than just seeing the luxury areas to impress visitors. For example, at Lo Wu (where the border crossing is) there are loads of tourists crossing the border but just a few streets away is an area where the cook dogs and sell the meat. To fully find out what a city is like, I like to discover both the good and bad things in a city.
Good to see a more substantial guard rail on the car top, as I feel car tops should have these, to lessen the risk of an engineer falling off the car top. I think there also should be grilles where the car top meets the counterweight. The guide wheel sounded like a small manic Dalek.
The faster Schindler 7000 which goes for 9 m/s is in Singapore which are the high-rise lifts at CapitaSpring.
Wow it even uses POE to power the destination dispatch panels that’s super cool
A great place to have lunch during a heatwave. 👍
That is a really impressive, clean and tidy motor room. I love how there is a PC to run dispatch, and how it can all be controlled like that.
Yes... cockroaches really love eating in dark and humid places.
Sheesh imagine a safety brake at that speed! Yikes😂
This is very good Ben! Keep the good work up!
Maraming Salamat Po Sa Inyong Lahat!
This video is already a year old!? I remember when it was brand new!
Awsome lifts, interresting bit of software. Seems to run Windows XP on the laptop. Is it possible to change to the destination dispatch touch panel sound effects? I have worked in a building that had Schindler destination dispatch with that exact model of touchpad. Sadly the touchpads are of the resistive type which are not very good, you have press them quite hard to register. In the building I worked (a council office) you had to use a RF-id card to unlock the touchpad.
Most touch screens designed for the public to use are resistive. My guess is that its because people leave sweat and other debris on them, which would stop a capacitive screen working. Also as the people using the lift don't own the touch screen they are not so respectfull with it, so the screen needs to withstand abuse, which I am guessing resistive screens are better for this. Resistive touch screens are very inaccurate and need calibration all the time, so the user interface is always big and simple to allow for this. The most annoying thing is the temperature operating range is very limited.
A lot of lift logics use computer programs that have not been updated in years. Some use win16 programs that don't work very well on vista onwards. Also the programs often need exclusive COM serial port access. To get these programs working we have to use a virtual machine.
@@benolifts 16 bit Windows programs... that brings back memories! It was just a shell ontop of DOS. Dos I hated back in the day (in the mid 90's) because it was damn difficult to get games to run properly at times, nowerdays I consider myself a DOS expert with optimizing Config.sys to have a much conventional memory as possible and still have mouse & cd-rom drivers work. There's a bit of an art to it, it's "High Loading" things into to the upper memory blocks.The simplicty and crudness of it has a certain charm, you can fit a functional OS on a single floppy disc.😁 The thing I hate the most at these resistive touch screens is that handwriting on them never works when you have sign for a parcel, those things are the worst. A capacitive screen with built-in Wacom digitzer works quite well.
@@dykodesigns
I wonder why modern day lifts still use something as old as this.
@@hariranormal5584 “why change it if it works,” that’s probably why
In my office building here in bangkok I aslo heard the voice of the wheel rubbing too. Its feel awkward when you heard those noise, and because of this model was high speed elevator the cabin will move before the door completely closed at first time I ride I feel weird. 😅
Edit: sometimes the brake was heavy sometimes are light. Even no one was with me. However I love this brand cause it gives me smooth ride compared to others and I love their escalators too.
this is awesome i think the motors are great. i would ride this lift all day.
When you said schindler is the best a smile appeared on my face
Come to the USA once the border reopens. We do have a few cheap lifts (3300, EcoSpace, etc.) but most are actually well built. The older (pre-2016) Gen2 has a proper chassis and runs at full speed with pre door. We also have the best generic lifts. For example, some companies still install the Hollister-Whitney geared machine, a design that is nearly 80 years old and will run forever as long as it is lubricated regularly.
That isnt suitable for a cheap flight to USA, also BENO has little to no money and only uses it to travel around the world as cheap as possible
@@KuwaitLiftsbyHalfaiProductions That's why he started the patreon
Andrew Heare | I believe US laws prevent lift surfing as it is not a civil offense there.
At my office building the 7000 accelerates to either 4 or 6 m/s at the absolutely amazing rate of 1,35 m/s^2 😱
This lift really reminds me of them despite the fact they are not scenic.
Maybe when you are dreaming it accelerates that fast
Measured it with a accelerometer and verified with a Schindler mechanic there. Fastest accel with Car D and Car I (4m/s, a= 1.35 m/s^2), slowest accel with Car A and M (6m/s, a= 0.98 m/s^2). According to colleagues accel was reduced due to nausea of some passengers).
@@benoliftsBeno did you look at the reply
You didn't wind up the accel?
WHY NOT?
1 m/s/s is a crazy fast accel. In the UK you would never find a lift with such as fast accel. Even in Germany it is pretty much unheard of. It is because Schindler is the best lift company that they would set a lift to accel at such a fast rate, and not only that, the lift runs completely stable at 1 m/s/s. I can not think of any other models of lift that could completely cope with this, they either run slower despite reporting 1 m/s/s, or the lift becomes unstable and fails to level correctly. The only other lift that can achieve 1 m/s/s is Kone NMX series VF drives, but although these are very good, they don't have perfect intelligent leveling like the Schindler Miconic.
So to answer your question, even though Schindlers can go up to 1.2 m/s/s, in practice they still don't accelerate faster than 1 m/s/s. As this is already extremely fast and the lifts already run perfectly, we felt no need to improve them.
@@benolifts That's fair enough, but it would be satisfying to see the general public have their leg strength tested (and their stomachs!).
"Oh, here's my flo--- BEEEEEEEERKKK!"
İs schindler 7000s without a Destination dispach has a original Schindler M series buttons?
beno, would you ever consider going to North America, when corona clears up(if it ever does).
Will McInaney He’s not going there anytime soon. He’s trying to do Asia first.
German Schindler Miconic. Epic
Schindler is Swiss.
@@johnmoore9862 he meant these were in Germany
im early and i love this channel
Ayos na sana, eh!
How much did you pay for the license to have CADI GC working ?
Is it a unlimited license ?
We paid £0.00
A lot of these lift programs are not at all secure. The work around was piss easy. I don't think I should say much more than that.
@@benolifts Ok so it's simply me that did not get much luck when trying to install it on my PC...
(Sure I did manage to get the software itself installed but without a license it was not going to work anytime soon)
A chap online was asking for several hundreds of euros to give me a cracked unlimited license, which I've of course declined.
Roughly how fast do you think the deceleration is? 1.2ms^-2 ?
It is also 1 m/s/s
Beno please can you block windows xpnt for spamming
20% faster than the max acceleration of a subway train
how are the motors so quiet?
Awesome!
If Schindler didn't install shit like the 3300, generic companies would get all the contracts, or Otis would install a Gen 2. Developers shouldn't be allowed to install a 1.6m/s lift on a 30 floor building. If they aren't willing to spend money on a good lift, they shouldn't be building a 30 storey building.
Nice!
AYOS!
hey austin this is guys
WHAT GUYS? I DON'T SEE ANY GUYS! JUST STOP!!!
Would you just shut up?
@@Internationalcartoons4063 missed the joke eh
HERE IS WINDOWS XPNT!! Your jokes are just boring. Why not get Covid-19.
hey guys, Austin is riding a lift with Kokone Fuwa.
The M-Series...
Eh, talaga ba?!
LakeshoreYT | Ok mina
Beautifuilllll
Wow 😮😍
PAANO MAKUKUHA SA COVID-19?
No hey Austin this is guys again
Tomorrow morning I reckon lol
hey Austin this is guys PA KAMO?!
WALANG GANUN, MARS!
Scammed. From Windows XPNT.
#shindleristhebest
Are German lifts lot more reliable than other lifts across the world. And not shit than Chinese lifts.
All of the lifts I opened up in Shenzhen in China were crazy well built. They put English lifts to shame. But it was only recently I learnt how diverse Shenzhen is. I only saw the tourist areas when I was there. The non tourist areas would have been a very different story. I will have to return to there to have a proper look throughout the city rather than just seeing the luxury areas to impress visitors. For example, at Lo Wu (where the border crossing is) there are loads of tourists crossing the border but just a few streets away is an area where the cook dogs and sell the meat. To fully find out what a city is like, I like to discover both the good and bad things in a city.
Beno I totally agree what you said. English lifts always breaks down I think.
Oy! May chinese lifts sa Germany at China, pati sa Pilipinas! Buti na lang, wala na ba?!
@@rsx-797drivelineinstitute8 OK? Still don't quite understand that. Maybe you need Babbel to help you out with your translation.
But Wait, There's More! Ang mga Chinese at German lifts, crappy generic talaga!
HAY! BER MONTHS NA NAMAN!
German quality i love it.
Schindler is Swiss brand
@@KaedeAnimation the lift was in Germany
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Alex The Not Great. 😂 better look next time