MAJOR JEEP PROBLEM - How To Fix It?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ย. 2022
- If you've ever experienced a dead battery in your Jeep, especially if its a newer Wrangler JL or Gladiator, trust us when we say that you're not alone...AND, there's a fix. It's a known problem that newer Jeeps equipped with an auxiliary battery can leave you stranded with a dead battery. And since generally the cause is the auxiliary battery itself, rather than your primary battery, jump starting the vehicle like normal doesn't always work.
So we decided to finally make a video going over the dead battery issue, what to do if you find yourself stranded with a dead battery, how to fix it by removing the auxiliary battery from your Jeep, and the ultimate fix to make sure you're never stranded with a dead battery again - an Antigravity Battery.
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That stop-start feature needs to go away permanently from any vehicle. I realize I am an old fart who began driving 53 years ago but stop/start is as crazy as the 4-6-8 Cadillac engine was.
You probably don’t remember this, but about a year ago I was at your place, Chris and Bec were installing the rear locker on my JK and my buddy Andy was helping you with the coil overs on the Juggy. The juggy didn’t have a battery in it, but we were able to use my jump box to start it… that’s the jump box you should get. I love that thing and it’s saved more people that I can remember.
Well… I guess you don’t really need it now. LOL ❤😅
I have been having that exact problem with my 19 JL, thank you!!
Your channel is great
I literally within the last 4 days began having issues with my 2020 wrangler starting via remote start and this morning actually had to jump start it. I will be replacing the main battery and will look into deleting the auxiliary battery, as the auxiliary has not worked for the last year. Great timing on the video guys, thank you.
I solved my aux battery issues by installing the Genesis dual battery system. Absolutely love it!! That is how all Jeeps should come from the factory.
More info please!
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You guys are so awesome love this channel so much! Chris is one bad ass mechanic he needs hear it he is amazing!
Hello! I have the original main battery, and a 2nd aux battery on my 2019 JLU. Before the 2nd aux battery gave up I had installed a solar panel on the hood. It’s been a year now and knock on wood, my main battery has not died on me.
BUT this antigravity battery is a great upgrade! Thanks for sharing this info! More power to your channel! 🤜 🤛
You guys need more dirt bikers in your life. These are the only batteris we use. Im glad your lifestyles have afforded a Ferrari and toys to play. Congratulations on life changing supporters and dedication. Take care and blessings to you two.
Love your channel. I had to comment here. I have been a technical trainer for several European car manufacturers. On newer vehicles the module that controls the charging rate is programed for different batteries. For example a BMW can be programed for the earlier lead acid batteries (the ones that you have to check the water level) or the later deep cycle batteries. While the batteries perform fine, they can damage the alternator. I don't have experience with changing out a deep cycle battery with a lithium Ion battery, but it could wind up damaging the alternator or the module that controls the charging system. Keep up with the great videos!
I have to change my Jeep JL 2018 battery every 2 years exactly! It's so expensive and the aux battery is such a pain, so thank you for the tip!
I'm absolutely gonna get myself one of these Antigravity batteries that's so cool!
HUGE THANK YOU!!!!!!
I have been hunting for information on the Aux delete.
Thanks for the info!! Our 2018 aux battery is on the fritz. Will be following your advice👍
I've been running a lithium starter battery in my V6 Toyota for 3yrs now. Quarter the weight of the factory battery and more than double the CCA, they really are a game changer.
This was very helpful. Just had my buddy call me up with his 8 month old brand new JL. The battery was stoned and he tried charging and jumping it to no avail and couldn't start the engine. I used your suggestion and jumped it with my jump box to the auxiliary terminal and it fired right up. Guess the Stop/Start battery must be shot already. Thank You !!!!
Can you do a video on "How to delete your aux battery".. ? That would be great. 🙂
You pull fuse F42 and disconnect the aux battery lead from the main battery (the L-shaped one that sits beneath the flat one). Electrical tape the shit out of the aux lead and zip tie it out of the way. Done.
Guys I totally love you all and just so happened my battery kicked the bucket today so I was going to buy one of these batteries sounded awesome and just what I needed because my rig is on the heavy side but I think my idea of a little more expensive and yours is COMPLETELY different. 😅
Im glad yall covered this, just picked up my 2023 JL on friday!
Yall definetly did the most IN DEPTH on this now! This is all solid info!!!
So the caveat to this conversation is which engine you have because you may not have the small aux battery.
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@@kanenine5838 eTorque? if not then you'll have one if it's an eTorque then you won't
You two are a national treasure - thank you!
I love BMS LiPo batteries. I've done the Genesis Gen3 dual system for now, which does a quasi-battery BMS for the lead/acid batteries.
LOL just fyi I dont think any of us here follow you just for the rating of the products. Like me I think most of us just love your spirit.
Just 4 weeks ago I replaced the main battery in my JL. When it needs replacing I'll seriously consider the AntiGravity battery if the auto parts store does not honor the standard battery warranty. This is the third battery since 2019, so even at the higher cost for the Antigravity battery it will pay for itself if it truly lasts for 8 years. BTW, I do have a trickle charger on the new battery. Thanks for sharing
That's a cool battery! Thanks for letting us know about it! Happy Trails to both of you! Bummer, None for Ford PUs and Escapes! Damn! You weren't kidding that they're not cheap! Very costly!
First time viewer. I'm a carpenter and a mechanics son, so the 'that's what SHE said' jokes are great. I almost died laughing when Mrs. LB said it. Someone once called me a pervert, to which I answered: I am not! I have been doing this FAR too long to be an amateur... I am PROvert!
God Bless and be well.
Welcome to the LiteBrite Nation! Kevin and Brittany are awesome! As you start binge watching all their videos, you'll catch a lot more of that humor. And just wait until you meet Cricket! Have fun!
Got the Antigravity battery and the Battery Tracker for my JKU to track possible parasitic drains with an app.
Those of us who have used Lithium Ion batteries on our motorcycles know to turn the headlights on to warm up the batteries prior to starting to help the cold start issues.
Antigravity batteries are great, had one on my motorcycle, half the weight and ample power. Never had an issue with it.
I don’t own a jeep but I’m a fan and watch all your videos. I shared this video with my friend (he owns a Jeep) but it was a week too late. This just happened to him and it cost him the tow to the dealership and about $1300 just to get it to the original condition so it will happen to him again. He owns a Sahara and a Gladiator and I believe he is going to trade in the Gladiator for a Bronco. Btw really enjoy Brit on the last video climbing those walls
Your so tall, says Kevin like he only just noticed, keep these how to videos coming,
I'm sure there's a lot of owners who need a head's up, thanks guys 😋
My new 2023 Jeep JLR has less than 2,000 miles and is sitting in my driveway as dead as a door knob right now.
Going to try to jump it tomorrow using this method. Went out and bought a battery jump pack this evening but it needs charged. Not sure if the mini tazer process wasn’t done right after recalibrating for 37” tires or if it’s just a crappy battery.
Thank you very much for posting!
Was anyone picturing Brit falling over backward and landing on the Ferrari, dropping the battery through the front windshield?
No
Yep!😂
Me
Yes and I was worried for her rounded over back as someone who has thrown my back out way too many times in life lol
Haaaa... Thanks for the hook up! Thanks Lite Brite!
Just ordered the 94R for my 2021 Power Wagon. 90Amp battery with BMS and remote emergency starter and backup cell? Amazing! Expensive at $1000 BUT it's well worth it for when waaay off grid and the truck won't start.
Quite the fleet you guys have there!!!
A lot of good information I'm glad my jeeps are 1970 and below my newest addition is a 1970 jeep wagoneer God bless and Happy Thanksgiving ✝️🇺🇸 enjoyed watching ✝️
So Wise , Thank You for sharing . To bad I live in Northern Minnesota , I need something that can survive -55
Wow! this is golden! Great Job.
Great video guys!!! Thank you for sharing this, that would suck so bad if you was miles off the beaten path!!❤❤💯🤙
Very interesting I have been thinking about dual battery set up for my JKU BUT this is intriguing because of the smart battery technology of antigravity bonus of losing weight. TY
That is indeed a glorious sound coming from the Ferrari! Also, I'm totally amazed at the fact that we now have "smart" automotive batteries! See yall tomorrow LiteBrite!
You should get ahold of stradman and see if he has any hook up for some exhaust on the 488. You guys have a pretty bad ass assortment of rides. I love it
Thanks you two we just got our jl Rubicon 2020 love it. But hate the stupid auto start. Just a 4 banger turbo. Absolutely love our jeep way better than the 99 TJ.
Brit had the wife laughing, I have never seen wrists bend like that! Great tips on JL's. My F-150 is just like the JL's dies if not driven once a week for 30 + miles. I'm on my second battery in one year with a newer F-150 with all the whistles.
Thank you for the info, please keep us updated on how well it is working. How much do these batteries cost?
Just happened to me last night. That’s why I am here!🙈
Genesis offroad has a sweet dual matched battery setup. I've been running it for a couple of years now without issues. it isolates main battery from the other battery
2022 Jeep was dead this morning. Used the first post in the fuse box to jump. AAA employee said this was the first time she got a newer Jeep to start. Jeep started right up. She was amazed
Thanks
The anti gravity Battery was a nice tip
Could have hooked up your battery cables to an auxiliary power jump pack to retain your vehicles settings while swapping out your battery.
Hey, nice! Their HQ is literally right down the street from me in my hometown.
On my way to Merus watching this. See ya soon!
You guys are fantastic! How do we feel about the Genesys Duel Battery setup? I've been tempted to go that route, but this seems pretty great as well. Curious why you didn't go with Genesys' solution to the Aux battery issue.
I have always liked lithium batteries and have even had highly Insulated ones. I recommend them for motorcycles because most people don't ride in the freezing cold. But depending on how well they are insulated they drop power big time between 30 and 50 degrees. If temperatures get in the single digits I don't know of any lithium battery that would still start a car unless it had some kind of heating element with it like a tesla. It will be interesting to see how this battery performs this winter.
My Antigravity battery exploded after 2 weeks of use. The car was just idling. I had to file a warranty claim and am still waiting for reimbursement. It was 680cca smart version with bms which is much smaller but my truck only requires 640cca and wasn’t on their list. I hope you have better luck!
Y'all are awesome! I love how Y'all share what Y'all learn. Some Manufacturer, probly MOPAR, is gonna put a hit on Y'all tho.
Strongly stand behind antigravity batteries. I use them in my motorcycles and race cars. But I’m a physcopath and use the smaller ones that look like there meant for lawnmowers to power my cars 😅
watched.
saved for watch later,
IF and WHEN ever my JL actually gets built sometime this century
Good advice, please have Chris give us complete how to on aux bat removal
Hey kids..., another good vid. Cool battery tech. And I knew Brittany could get battery too! Good for her! Stay safe America...!
I have the auxiliary battery, and have had problems. When I had a problem ,you advised me to delete the auxiliary battery
So far, I have had no problems
I think that I will follow your advice
Maybe I can get Chris to upgrade my jeep
Wooo first comment! 😎 Love you guys, love the content and effort put in, thank you very much, be safe and have fun! MLR!
JINX! Watched this and two days later my aux battery failed spectacularly, taking the main out with it. We had a real cold spell an I hadn't run the jeep in a few weeks. Went to start her and the electronics went berserk. The wipers came on by themselves, the dash went nuts, every light was flashing, shifter locked - but no start. Had to disconnect the aux just to be able to start it with a boost box. (thanks to your vid!) I'm not convinced that the LiOn battery is the way to go though. Too many stories of them causing fires. Keep your fire extinguisher handy and don't park the stepchild in the garage! I'm going with an AGM - like an Optima. Curious to see how it works out for you. Hope to seen an update sometime.
Yo saw your corvette on drift week, can't miss it, tron like 👌👌
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this also happens on other newer model cars with the auto stop start. what i recommend is removing auto stop start. some vehicles literally just need the fuse removed. wires removed. its not just a jeep problem, its also a hybrid problem( often times its the alternator)
I understand it’s a lithium battery and you’re basically buying a jump box as well. But my god that’s a lot of money. Hope it works out well for you guys. I’ll keep watching and I’ll be waiting on that 10 year review
"Even a Britney can do it" 😆 You guys are awesome! Thanks for this info ..same thing happen to my gladiator but thank God it happen at home where we live in Big Bear and ended up getting a new battery! Gonna look into purchasing one though for peace of mind! Thanks guys! CHEERS!
These type of things are exactly why I went with the less technical JKUR instead of the newer JL.
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I’m so happy I don’t have this on my 392
787B still the best exhaust note ever
Sugar Honey Ice Tee, now you tell me! Oh I just missed this video and paid for a new Aux. And when your stuck, your so stuck. Good video guys!!
You guys rock! Do you miss Colorado Springs?
Hello Guys!!!! Smart video! Here’s a smart tip: buy a Halo Bolt. I’ve helped many motorists with dead batteries. With the Halo Bolt you can charge the battery. In addition, it fills tires with air too! Plus, charges cell phones and has a flash light too! Buy at Amazon or QVC. The Halo Bolt, my smartest buy ever!!!!
that's a cool battery. curious how much would that cost? Love you guys. take care a God Bless.
You might be having the plates in the battery breaking internally due to the jarring off-road . Also would it be possible to just move terminal for the aux battery to the other terminal for the main battery if the aux battery dies?
Great concept, which model number for the anti-gravity batter should we get for our Jeep JLs?
I saw video of you helping the guy at Pomona. I have looked all over for a Auxiliary Battery delete. No such luck. Can you and Chris do a video on how to do it?
Thank in advance...
Get a genesis off-road dual battery system gives you two full size battery’s which also helps when adding more lighting
Traded in my 2012 JKU Rubicon Call of Duty Jeep yesterday and got a 2022 Rubicon Gladiator. And it's a stick shift!! HAven't driven it enough to play with the auto stop/start, but I don't think that's a wise feature for my manual transmission. I love that new type of battery. But $1200 for a battery is a little pricey. But if it helps and lasts longer, and in your case you've already spent that much on new batteries, so this should take care of all your problems.
Living your best lives!
Dose a 2021 need to hook up the aux batter terminals or just tape them up? I have heard they need to be connected so that other stuff works too? Thank for all the info guy keep it up and see you out on a trail somewhere!
I have to disagree with your assertion about jump starting. I just bought a 2018 JL and one day it wouldn't start. I tried charging the battery ( which was a few months old) but it wouldn't hold a charge. Id only had it 3 weeks, so i called the dealer requesting a replacement battery, or to get them to locate a drain. They told me that it was the aux battery, which i didnt even know i had and to jump start it return it to them. I jumped it no problem just using the main battery terminals. The dealer told me that the main battery had been replaced but that the aux was the original, so they put a new one on. I have now disconnected it. Great vid and great channel. ( Maybe the UK version wiring is different?)
Love your stuff by the way
I think I will get one of these batteries. But my 2018 jl 2.0 turbos battery has not yet died in 50000 miles. Bit I think I will be proactive. Thanks for video.
One of my car doesn't like to not start for a week... that's seems to be a good fix :) Thx!
No it's not a good fix. You need to address the parasitic draw and correct it. This is simply a bandaid.
Very informative vide guys 👍
Ran into the dead aux battery while on a trip in our RV flat towing our Gladiator. Of course the Aux battery is only available at dealers, so we had to plan our route through Flagstaff to visit the dealer. Delete is next! Thanks guys for this video! By the way, Lithium Iron Phosphate, LiPo4, is not like Lithium Ion, A.K.A. Lithium Cobalt used in electric cars. Much more forgiving and no danger of run away heat. LiPo4 are the thing in off shore power in the RV world today. While the up front cost is high, they actually cost much less over their life.
Easier to say "Lithium Ferrous Phosphate" for those, so people don't hear "Iron" and think "Ion"
And while they're great, and substantially safer, the replacement for them is already coming, Sodium based batteries, which should drop the cost significantly, as Sodium is a lot easier to source and more plentiful.
Autozone sells the aux batteries as well.
The only drawback is the charge protection won’t allow the battery to charge in anything below 30 degrees. Keep us updated on how you tackle that challenge this winter. I may be ok in Utah. But Colorado that’s just a no go.
I thought of that as well but the heat from the engine once it’s running would heat it up over 32 degrees no problem
Battery blanket heat wrap?
I've had one for 2 years now here in Canada Where it gets -20c regularly in the winter. NEVER has it failed , never has it been weak. IT STARTS IN THE COLD BETTER THAN ANY OTHER BATTERY , AND IT WARMS ITS SELF as current flows thru it and allows the alternator to trickle charge even below 0 till it is warm enough to allow full charging. The heater fan and defrost run at 50% faster speeds than a lead acid battery as they get 13.4 V all the time even as it discharges, even at 20% charge it still has over 13 volts.
Thanks for the info
Pull the F42 fuse and disconnect the ground wire for AUX battery. That is the ground wire towards the fender, the smaller one on the post. That took care of all my problems.
Did doing this throw a code or light a light on the dash??
The must be a newer company. They don't have one for my Chevy Silverado. Only for Corvette and Camaro. Thanks for sharing.
My start stop stopped working 2 yrs in. Still under warranty. Jeep replaced both batteries. I’ll implement your solution soon.
Keep in mind that Lithium Batteries, ( lifepo4 too) do not like temps over 120DEG F, under the hood temps may cause issues with wheeling/crawling and heat accumulation. Likewise low temps either. They're rather temperamental temp wise.
I am concerned with battery fires. Lithium batteries have that reputation and like Magnesium fires, Lithium burns hotter when doused with water.
This is one reason (among many others), I went to genesis for their dual battery system.
All your lithium batts. have their own circuit board built in to monitor voltage per cell and temperature per cell. They are typically half the weight of what we are normally used to.
After seeing this video, I priced a group 35 battery for my vehicle. $835.00 in a non-starter for me. When they become affordable, I will consider them.
88th - Sorry I Was late, but I just found out the vibration problems I've been having with my Jeep WK is the transfer case innards have grenaded! Weeee! Just in time for Winter Jamboree! Any recommendations from LBN family would be appreciated. ?Chris? Love these technical videos - I've learned so much from y'all. Looks like you're heading into a great time - can't wait to see! LiteBriteNationRoar&Drift!
Great info! Is there any step by step guide on how to delete aux battery for "dummies"??
When you eliminate the auxiliary battery does it automatically eliminate the stop,start feature or do you have to disable it also? Thanks.
Great video thank you!
My six battery failure caused all kinds of electrical gremlins… service shifter, service 4 wheel drive, service auto start, no brake, no steering etc. new aux and reg battery fixed all problems
It will be interesting to see how this battery works out for you. I helped a friend hook in a lithium battery with a built in BMS into his jeep by wiring in a dedicated charger for it a few years back, and the heat trashed it in less than a year. The heat you'll probably subject yours to, but I doubt you'll be able to test it out in the cold end of the operating spectrum down there in Southern Utah. As always a great battery
I believe where they live it gets cold and they get plenty of snow. Atleast last years videos they had snow.
I looked up the battery specs for that exact reason. The manufacturer says operating temp range is 23-140f and not to charge outside of 33-113f. I don’t think that battery will last.
@@rjmcmanamy4337 Yeah I heard one of the reasons why lead acid or gel is better than LiFePh as auto batteries is the temperature limitations. In that you HAVE to make sure the battery is above freezing or else it can't charge. Perhaps they could work in the Ferrari which isn't likely to be outside in the cold too much anyway, and the placement will help it survive the engine heat a bit better.
Maybe Kev will have to get Chris to move the batteries into the cab and rewire it to accommodate that very idea. As the Stepchild is probably gonna be parked out in the cold, and working in the heat, quite often.
@@rjmcmanamy4337 cold temperature aversion was the first thing that I thought of. The numbers that you have listed are very consistent with other types of Lithium batteries. Will be very interested in the long term durability, as well.
These are a Lithium Iron Phosphate aka LifePO4. They do have some insulation built into them. I run a dual lithium battery setup in my FJ Cruiser, a lithium starting battery and a lithium deep cycle battery for running my fridge. Living in Wisconsin I am had my lithium starting battery since 2018 with no issues and have been running a deep cycle lithium under the hood for lack of interior space. Both batteries have not had heat or cold issues.