Revisiting the Stephen Strasburg Shutdown

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  • @formulahank1250
    @formulahank1250 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    It sucks as a contract, but if you look at it as a parting gift for his time with the team, it’s ok. He did what no one had done for nearly a century and led a Washington baseball team to a title

  • @OH_MY_DOGGG
    @OH_MY_DOGGG ปีที่แล้ว +95

    You never truly know if a guy is going to be remembered as a World Series MVP. That's just what I think. Anyone who has that award deserves a lot of credit. Like Mike Lowell really comes to mind

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve Pearce got it in 2018 but David Price really deserved that

    • @OH_MY_DOGGG
      @OH_MY_DOGGG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@warlordofbritannia
      I reflect on Pearce all of the time because it was never going to change the outlook on his career. There would be something Poetic and gratifying about Price winning it that is agreeable.
      If they split the award amongst Eovaldi, Price....and most reluctantly Sale (only for recording the last 3 outs ultimately)
      I think that would cause people to associate the roving starting pitcher concept with the 2018 Red Sox more intrinsically. I would like that.
      I guess like the 2001 Diamondbacks it has to be an exceptional case to split up the award.
      I think it is better than Pearce marginally. But going back to my original commentary. I didnt think Pearce was that special.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OH_MY_DOGGG
      Those are all good, intelligent thoughts I wouldn’t disagree with. To me, the poetic nature of Price winning it outweighs them ‘s all.

  • @thatgingermatt
    @thatgingermatt ปีที่แล้ว +60

    One of my favorite players ever and in my opinion should be up there with the “what-if” modern greats like David Wright, Tulo, Pedroia, and Lincecum. If these five never got hurt, man I’d love to see that.

    • @stopsheeping
      @stopsheeping ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Not trying to rain on your parade, but....DeGrom too!

    • @enthusiastofcute
      @enthusiastofcute ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lincecum’s pitching style and heavy workloads early in his career pretty much guaranteed injuries

    • @adamd5849
      @adamd5849 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't forget Mark Prior

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@adamd5849 throw in Kerry Wood too
      I would also say Michael Fulmer for the list as well

    • @thatgingermatt
      @thatgingermatt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stopsheeping very true though for some reason my mind puts him slightly after those guys even though I’m including Strasburg. Couldn’t even tell you why.

  • @RyanMariners
    @RyanMariners ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I'm not even a Nationals fan, but I can totally feel their pain.

    • @dogshxtgames3257
      @dogshxtgames3257 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What pain? They won a chip, that'll cover all the pain.

    • @stopsheeping
      @stopsheeping ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dogshxtgames3257 Beat me to it.

    • @baseballblaster7090
      @baseballblaster7090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dogshxtgames3257yea but we wasted so much on him we’re paying him 35m to not even play

    • @dogshxtgames3257
      @dogshxtgames3257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@baseballblaster7090 yea but your team spent hundreds of millions of dollars from 2005-2018 to not get a ring and now you have one!

    • @TarmaanProductions
      @TarmaanProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dogshxtgames3257but like we’re trying to see our next era of baseball and this is going to hurt it plus we’re wanna see him healthy

  • @CharmCityGamer
    @CharmCityGamer ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Man I'd give ANYTHING to see Stras healthy again. Poor guy... thanks Mike/SRS!

  • @ticnatz
    @ticnatz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having paid Strasburg $140 million since 2020 (to go 1-4 with an ERA approaching 10.0), and an additional $105 million still to come, the rational state of mind of the Nats instantly comes to mind (they did pay him over $38 million in 2019, so that worked out).....

  • @midsummerKNlGHT
    @midsummerKNlGHT ปีที่แล้ว +19

    eh
    sucks for their payroll but flags fly forever and 2019 was an excellent world series
    there are plenty of other bad contracts without a ring. in time, the contract will run out but the championship is going nowhere.

  • @jalenking810
    @jalenking810 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    IS THST MLB POWER PROS MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND????? YOU SIR ARE THE GOAT, A MAN OF CULTURE

  • @grumpyrock
    @grumpyrock ปีที่แล้ว +13

    EDITED: The 2019 World Series was such a great series to watch. Great video, just disappointing it glosses over his game 6 start that brought the entire team back from the brink of death. Especially after Scherzer was scratched from game 5, which they then lost.

    • @jawbone78
      @jawbone78 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was game 5 that Scherzer missed - Joe Ross pitched instead.

    • @grumpyrock
      @grumpyrock ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jawbone78 ah you’re right. To which they lost game 5 and it out their backs against the wall and Stras had to come up big.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember looking at the matchups and thinking “wow, the road team could actually win each game here”
      I’ve had some crazy accurate predictions before and since but I don’t think anything like that lol

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What people fail to realize is the Nats only promised strasburg 145,000,000 more than the 100,000,000 they had to pay him. There is no sports franchise who would not pay 145 million for that sports championship

  • @goldeneagleboy3
    @goldeneagleboy3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a nats fan what's most painful is how bad i feel for stras- dude has done all he could but just has terrible injury luck. that being said he'll always be known as the 2nd best nats pitcher of all time (behind max scherzer imo) and always be a DC legend.

    • @jrose7381
      @jrose7381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The sec he flapped his arm you knew right away that wasn’t good

  • @qshot9848
    @qshot9848 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    While it is painful, it was all the way worth it. We got our ring with the final last grasp of our window in an series that will be told for legends.
    And honestly, with his injuries, I knew it would always be a game of Russian Roulette with his contracts so when the contract was signed, I had a gut feeling time was up but I didn’t mind with how he balled out and put us on his back constantly (2017 Flu Game - Game 4)
    So while we’re picking up the pieces like the Habs are similarly like us, Rizzo playing the long game may have been the piece we needed through Strasburg to be healthy just long enough for us to grab the ring we yearned for our team’s existence.

  • @spoogtastic
    @spoogtastic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's very clear that the human body can't sustain throwing so hard for entire seasons. Back off the speed, important your movement and all these incredible pitchers won't be blowing out their arms and shoulders constantly.

    • @eugenegreen2285
      @eugenegreen2285 ปีที่แล้ว

      how come 20 years ago they could, 30 years ago they could, 40 years ago etc etc etc but they cant now?

    • @autkev7112
      @autkev7112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eugenegreen2285 Steroids.

  • @jimmymosierjr.7530
    @jimmymosierjr.7530 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It worked, I was not happy when they shut him down, but watching Stras dominate in 2019, it was worth it. Such a great WS performance. The guy was nails.

  • @dangeejr
    @dangeejr ปีที่แล้ว

    4:00 background music on point !!

  • @bryantsteury8910
    @bryantsteury8910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you said you'd get a generational ace for 14 years 400 million and a WS out of it, I think most people take that deal

  • @valantheflame0193
    @valantheflame0193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah i wouldnt change anything either if i was getting 245M for doing nothing. Seems like a sweet gig, glorified coach for 35M a year.

  • @jrose7381
    @jrose7381 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, that phone call where you are called up for the big show must be fkn awesome.

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 2019 Nats championship run got me back into baseball

  • @Reathety
    @Reathety ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Nats fan I'm not mad that they payed Strasburg even though he may never pitch at a high lvl again. In fact I think he deserves it for what he did for this team.

  • @ode2491
    @ode2491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Syracuse native. It was awesome seeing him pitch here several times

  • @awesome123306
    @awesome123306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the suber megabasrball clip

  • @jamesgoss1860
    @jamesgoss1860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember this well as it opened the door for a championship. The Nats owned the Giants that year, 5-1 I think. I thought it was absolute bonkers that they shut him down. Without him, the Nats blew it to the Cardinals, who then blew it to the Giants.

  • @elyfel1183
    @elyfel1183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking back... maybe opting for a 6-man rotation would've been a better way to manage his innings.
    But hey, it all worked out in the end.

  • @johnpatriots21
    @johnpatriots21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ik this is a sports channel and all but the music choices you use for the background are AWESOME I see ya over there with the Jeff Buckley good sir 🙏

  • @jamman950
    @jamman950 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesssss all the good TH-camrs are dropping on my b day

  • @d.b.andrew3663
    @d.b.andrew3663 ปีที่แล้ว

    The initial montage makes me think y'all got a music budget now. Movin' on up gang! You're in the Big Leagues now!!

  • @willv5671
    @willv5671 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Am I crazy or is that MLB power pros music in the background at 2:43

  • @SmoothCriminal12
    @SmoothCriminal12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Admittedly when Rendon and Strasburg were up for new deals, I thought they should've prioritized Rendon. Mostly since hitting and bullpen was a bigger concern going forward, especially with Corbin and Scherzer still going strong at the time.

    • @Sumner1028
      @Sumner1028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now both deals look like an albatross for both Strasburg and Rendon. I think Rendon got his bag and said screw baseball. He even admitted baseball wasn't even his favorite sport. The Nats should have let Stras walk due to his injury history. I figured they would get 3 good years and then the decline would come. I was certainly wrong on that one

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But the Nat still have Victor Robles! Even though they should have kept Michael Taylor. But Dylan Crews will be in a Nat uniform by 2024 sometime

  • @Fantasyremix
    @Fantasyremix ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always thought if they were that concerned about hitting a hard limit, they should have started his season later or given him extra rest, not shut him down early.

  • @MrBendylaw
    @MrBendylaw ปีที่แล้ว

    It's just the way it cooks out with pitchers. I'm tempted to say the first part of the draft evaluation should be 'Did he throw rocks at things from the age of four? Was there ever any discomfort?'. But when you are throwing 95+...

  • @Extinguisher10
    @Extinguisher10 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's been injured nearly every year of his career that his innings weren't artificially suppressed.
    I'm not sure the shut down worked.
    Could it have been worse if they didn't? Possibly!
    But it's certainly not a definitive success.
    You used 130 innings and 22 starts are a floor for his "healthy stretch" that's only about two thirds of a season. Sure that's a wild success for Jacob DeGrom, but for anyone else that's not saying much. 🤪
    Anyway, great video! :)

  • @benk6153
    @benk6153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PowerPros music 😍

  • @CatchCraftInc
    @CatchCraftInc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can’t believe you cut out the “I live in a world made of cardboard” part

  • @yukikimura8204
    @yukikimura8204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video about the 2014 Angels? The only time Trout made it to the postseason.

  • @CodeDonut
    @CodeDonut ปีที่แล้ว

    okay but at 15:19 altuve just looks hilarious being there xD

  • @bluebellysports
    @bluebellysports ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing promise. "What could have been."

  • @Damuthafuccka
    @Damuthafuccka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, but what I liked the most was the music that you used in it. Around 14:10 in the video, this music came on that sounds like the original "Nightmare on Elm street". Who was that?

    • @Damuthafuccka
      @Damuthafuccka ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the running man isn't it

  • @stuffbenlikes
    @stuffbenlikes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The JLU analogy brought tears to my eyes.

    • @rackstraw
      @rackstraw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard. Always taking constant care not to break something. To break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control, even for a moment, or someone could die."

  • @enthusiastJD
    @enthusiastJD ปีที่แล้ว

    Nationals fan here, absolutely wild last decade and a half and there’s no team Id rather root for. The curly W will be back and there will be whole lotta red

  • @cullendougher-7224
    @cullendougher-7224 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do not speak for us nationals fans, 1) soto and tendon had nearly just as much affect on our World Series win as strausberg yet we were ok with letting them go so the whole here’s 200+ million for a ws win is bs. 2)we gave a super max contract to a aging injury prone player. 3)we gave him the vast majority of our payroll while allowing younger more profitable players leave or be traded for crumbs, sure let’s take the injury prone aging pitcher over a generational prospect and multi year all star shortstop. I love strausberg but giving him that contract was the most idiotic decision we could have done

  • @aaronsteindler3245
    @aaronsteindler3245 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't disagree with limiting a young pitcher's workload, but idk how you can shut down your best pitcher during the playoffs. Nats should have limited his workload in September and save him for October. They could have possibly won 2 rings that decade instead of 1.

  • @paulgroeger33
    @paulgroeger33 ปีที่แล้ว

    And now he's called it a career injuries suck

  • @Mervalon1
    @Mervalon1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep tellin ppl this tho, Stras was good in his college days, but his mechanics had the dreaded Inverted W, and outta sync, which suprised me how he could touch 100-102 with that, more than likely it was more synced up but the W never went away. If he got his foot down earlier he could’ve touched higher velo maybe, but also have less stress and potentially better command

    • @Mervalon1
      @Mervalon1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want Stras to come back tho, I hope maybe a role and a recovery could happen

  • @OshiZlebaseball
    @OshiZlebaseball ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MLB Life soundtrack from MLB Power Pros

  • @michaelroche4960
    @michaelroche4960 ปีที่แล้ว

    @13:26 is definitely meant to be 209 innings and not 109.... Cmon guys I caught that on the first watch and I'm not a Nats fan whatsoever... Nobody is leading the team in innings for a playoff team at 109..... Not sure how that one was missed...

  • @Vic-cx8zb
    @Vic-cx8zb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a Nats fan and this sucks

  • @davidbernier5782
    @davidbernier5782 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video! But what’s with the creepy ambient music?

  • @ItsTank_
    @ItsTank_ ปีที่แล้ว

    As some Washington fans like to say, he sacrificed the rest of his career for the Nats to win the World Series

  • @thedude3065
    @thedude3065 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The man sacrificed his future to ensure that it would be spent with a World Series ring

    • @eugenegreen2285
      @eugenegreen2285 ปีที่แล้ว

      i wish i could make $35M a year to work 10 days at my job, I would make that sacrifice.

  • @3xzsucof
    @3xzsucof ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a video on Bryson Stott

  • @joshm.5340
    @joshm.5340 ปีที่แล้ว

    God damn I miss Joba.

  • @JoseJimenez-vc7we
    @JoseJimenez-vc7we ปีที่แล้ว

    3:41-4:09 what's the song??? I'm trying to look for it

    • @StarkRavingSports
      @StarkRavingSports  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there’s almost always a soundtrack link in the descriptions of our videos :)

    • @JoseJimenez-vc7we
      @JoseJimenez-vc7we ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarkRavingSports oh ok thank you I loved the montage

  • @donney-
    @donney- ปีที่แล้ว

    Just one of the many terrible contracts of the last decade

  • @matthewdanahy9411
    @matthewdanahy9411 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's with the all pink? Blinded my eyes

  • @reginald1106
    @reginald1106 ปีที่แล้ว

    SDSU legend 💯 standup 😎😎

  • @Gamer_Tanks
    @Gamer_Tanks ปีที่แล้ว

    Strachburg ain't never coming back

  • @enthusiastJD
    @enthusiastJD ปีที่แล้ว

    Eh its like by time we are good again Strasburg's contract wont really matter

  • @kaffarashortskabhi
    @kaffarashortskabhi ปีที่แล้ว

    s/o livy dunne

  • @YogGroove
    @YogGroove ปีที่แล้ว

    75 years? WTF you talking about? There were (new) Senators there in 1970.

  • @chriscreaturo8809
    @chriscreaturo8809 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember watching that series with my dad and both of us thinking how dumb this was

  • @wyattmeyer4509
    @wyattmeyer4509 ปีที่แล้ว

    DO I HEAR MLB POWER PROS MUSIC?!?!?

  • @Moth665
    @Moth665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video about how the Pittsburgh Pirates suck again?

  • @VaCRAYtion
    @VaCRAYtion ปีที่แล้ว

    3rd video on the guy in 6 months. And they are all very similar…

  • @PoeticProphetic
    @PoeticProphetic ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to think Stephen Strasburg doesn’t wash his hands because he’s evil 😈

  • @georgepress1261
    @georgepress1261 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imo, the nats still mess up the shutdown. They won 98 games and was the best team in the nl. You figure strasburg would had started games 1 and 5. The nats had a 6-0 in that game, I would like to imagine he wouldn’t blow that. Also they could had use him as a reliever.
    But the 2012 shutdown didn’t protect him from injuries. He was hurt a lot. Grant it no tommy John but would 5 to 7 starts a year. He pitch 200 inning 2 time ( 2014 and 19).
    Funny you show strasburg greatest then they actually let him pitch in 2019. But because hecc be won a World Series mvp in 2019, doesn’t mean that the shutdown work. It didn’t it cost the nats a championship, and I’m a Phillies fan saying this

  • @fernandourcuyo4357
    @fernandourcuyo4357 ปีที่แล้ว

    W

  • @ccsportscollectables8248
    @ccsportscollectables8248 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @chriscampbell3417
    @chriscampbell3417 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who lives in STL… I was ecstatic when Strasburg was shut down 😂

  • @HutchIsOnYT
    @HutchIsOnYT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me as a Pirates fan when Skeenes on screen: 😁
    Me as a Pirates fan when you showed Strasburg’s debut: 🫥

  • @CornyVR.
    @CornyVR. ปีที่แล้ว

    Strausburg’s career reminds me of Lightning McQueen fading career.

  • @annoyingrat3710
    @annoyingrat3710 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, another content creator promoting gambling to children… oh where has the dignity of some people gone…

  • @tommyallen5761
    @tommyallen5761 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not even going to make a mention of all the Astros' cheating in the 2019 WS?

    • @ederlikessoccer
      @ederlikessoccer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They lost all home games. If they cheated they would of won at least one game.

    • @fuktrumpanzeeskum
      @fuktrumpanzeeskum ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't that 2017 that they cheated?

  • @BrettShadow
    @BrettShadow ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool editing with the highlights oversaturated in various hue... it's nice to not be able to see anything while listening to shifty royalty free music with no narration.

  • @Sumner1028
    @Sumner1028 ปีที่แล้ว

    That a hole dylan crews not wanting to play for the pirates ticked me off as a nats fan. Maybe if he wasn't a brat, the nats could have gotten skenes. Skenes will be a stud and crews a bust. Players who say they refuse to play certain places are prima donnas and the only who had a legit beef was john elway

    • @diggsfather
      @diggsfather ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pirates being a cheap organization and crews' likely record setting signing bonus is a more likely reason to me

    • @Sumner1028
      @Sumner1028 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diggsfather Yeah well unfortunately the Nationals are suckers when it comes to Borass clients. They shouldn't give him a dime over slot. F Dylan Crews. He's overrated. Much rather have had Skenes

    • @fuktrumpanzeeskum
      @fuktrumpanzeeskum ปีที่แล้ว

      The Pirates are a garbage franchise that struggle to properly develop pitchers and aren't gonna pay them when the time comes. I can't blame the man, i wouldn't want to be drafted by the Pirates either.

  • @DamienVee-nw7te
    @DamienVee-nw7te ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a really fat pebis