Kellie-Jay Keen says common sense is prevailing after Depp vs Heard

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  • Closing remarks in Johnny Depp and Amber Heard’s multimillion-dollar defamation lawsuit ended with both sides urging jurors to think about other victims of domestic abuse.
    Ms Heard’s legal team highlighted the message that a verdict in Mr Depp’s favour would send to others, while the actor’s representatives said her claims were “an act of profound cruelty to true survivors”.
    The actor is suing his former partner over a 2018 article she wrote in the Washington Post, which was titled: “I spoke up against sexual violence - and faced our culture’s wrath. That has to change.”
    The article does not mention Mr Depp by name, yet his lawyers say it falsely implies he physically and sexually abused the Aquaman actress while they were together.
    Following six weeks of evidence, which has seen testimony from both Mr Depp and Ms Heard as well as individuals including British supermodel Kate Moss, jurors have now been sent out to consider their verdict.
    Feminist Kellie-Jay Keen reacts to Douglas Murray's recent piece in The Times where he suggests that the public trial between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard marks the end of the #MeToo era.
    #MeToo #MikeGraham #Feminism #Feminist #Trans #TransIdeology #Gender #GenderIdeology

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  • @talktv
    @talktv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Do you agree with Kellie-Jay Keen on 'common sense'?

  • @seandelap6268
    @seandelap6268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Unfortunately common sense is not so common in 2022.

    • @Aerojet01
      @Aerojet01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We live in a crazy world!

    • @RinpochesRose
      @RinpochesRose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s very true 🙂😳😆

  • @catleugh
    @catleugh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Women should not always be believed, but they should always be listened to.

  • @hellsbells7271
    @hellsbells7271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It's not only men who have to think about the situation women are in, surely women also have to think about their own safety.
    I see young girls coming out of pubs absolutely rotten drunk, really short dresses on and can't put one foot in front of the other, they are putting themselves into harm's way.
    We all know it doesn't matter what women wear, how drunk they are, they should feel safe however, sometimes we all have to take responsibility for our own safety, and getting rotten drunk and walking home alone is not being responsible, because we know perpetrators look for vulnerability.

    • @sarahhardcastle2433
      @sarahhardcastle2433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I would agree, I was taught as a young girl how to look after myself, don’t get yourself in a state don’t accept drinks from men you don’t know, don’t go back to any mans house, because he’s not about to show you his stamp collection etc.

    • @hellsbells7271
      @hellsbells7271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sarahhardcastle2433 Sarah, you sound like a very level headed young woman. It's a pity all women didn't have your positive thought process around this.

    • @sarahhardcastle2433
      @sarahhardcastle2433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@hellsbells7271 not young anymore unfortunately as in my fifties, but educated my daughter on same things.

    • @hellsbells7271
      @hellsbells7271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sarahhardcastle2433 me neither, but we still have good heads on our shoulders which is the main thing, best wishes to you and your family.

    • @jamescollins3647
      @jamescollins3647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hellsbells7271 A lot of them do think like this, they don't appear in the news though. I wonder why.

  • @jesperthorsson3586
    @jesperthorsson3586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just imagine what London will be like for women when Sharia is put in place

  • @deborahmorris3962
    @deborahmorris3962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yes you do have to tell men that, especially young men from some foreign countries, look at what happened in Germany on new year's eve.

  • @elainekent3551
    @elainekent3551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love you Kellie 💕

  • @sonnyirish3678
    @sonnyirish3678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love Kellie Jay.

  • @peteblanco7640
    @peteblanco7640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    With a million immigrants this last year and more coming it is not so obvious to everyone that unnwanted touching is assault. Mike Graham seems oblivious to this and assumes everyone has his sense of morality.

  • @sadoldgit313
    @sadoldgit313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I cant agree that common sense is emerging! The latest nonsense by the Police College is to recommend that Rape Victims are not cross examined. In essence this is a return to the “must be believed” era. It is a tenant of British common law that an accused has a right to a fair trial and full disclosure! We have instances of women crying wolf, we see accused being paraded to the mob before any investigation! Rape is vile but it has to be treated as an offence compatible with any other transgression of the law!

    • @sarahlogan942
      @sarahlogan942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You only have to look at Johnny depp to know this

    • @sheilaoreilly6826
      @sheilaoreilly6826 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sarahlogan942 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you do realise he dragged her through the courts after signing a contract saying there was no mutual abuse and neither party would talk about it publicly. Then dragged her to the US to a televised trial to repeat repeat she'd said in a closed court in the UK, because she didn't want it to be made public. He used the courts to continue to abuse her. He's the exact example of why they want to stop allowing cross examining of women subjected to rape by these men.

  • @boogieboxmusic4331
    @boogieboxmusic4331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That sign.. ( unwanted touching is sexual harassment) is for our diverse brothers who come from cultures that don’t know ..

  • @Shanerosser239
    @Shanerosser239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He called Yvette cooper's son Joe balls😂

  • @joda6466
    @joda6466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I met my kids mother from cat calling so jog on with that one. (And it was her who whistled at me)

  • @valansley
    @valansley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We have many different cultures living in the UK and they all have different ideas on what an acceptable invitation looks like = BE SENSIBLE GIRLS

  • @johnbowkett80
    @johnbowkett80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    She's not a feminist .... She's too logical . 😜

    • @BanjoPixelSnack
      @BanjoPixelSnack ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a non-feminist woman, I agree with you!

    • @justafractionoftime1984
      @justafractionoftime1984 ปีที่แล้ว

      She says that she’s not a feminist lol

    • @Whysoserious648
      @Whysoserious648 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@justafractionoftime1984is she?

    • @grunge_surf_witch_uk9130
      @grunge_surf_witch_uk9130 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m a feminist and agree with KJK!! Seems many don’t understand feminism anymore!!

  • @abelovedsonofGodinwhomHeis35-6
    @abelovedsonofGodinwhomHeis35-6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What happened to Mason Greenwood was Me Too, as is his being forced out of Manchester United.

  • @petergouvignon8048
    @petergouvignon8048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The police did well with the grooming gangs

  • @christophermorrison8632
    @christophermorrison8632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The approach most often taken by the police now is the line of least resistance. Charge and let the courts decide. I think that's the only way they can navigate their duty in investigating often delicate situations but it's clearly got its risks in terms of potential miscarriages of justice.

  • @tonguepetals
    @tonguepetals ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Common sense is not so common.

  • @cwells5576
    @cwells5576 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, Sadly that sign is required in that train station, look what happened to all those women in Cologne train station on New Years Eve!

  • @kapstarkysocialpolitics7819
    @kapstarkysocialpolitics7819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got my differences with KJK, but she’s spot on here.

  • @karengayehammat4199
    @karengayehammat4199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that's inconsistent , lots of men do need to be made aware they're misogynistic especially my father .

    • @keving5235
      @keving5235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lots of women need to be made aware they are not all victims

    • @karengayehammat4199
      @karengayehammat4199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keving5235 I don't need you to tell me people don't care that's obvious and really sounds like you're just not empathetic , it's not gender specific . I'm not the only one who's life has been ruined by the worst alcoholic abusers as family (baby slapping dropping grandfather), terrorist neighbours and teachers , even a big red spongey nosed double standard hypocrite lawyer , police who don't follow thru on serious assaults harrassment property damage theft or pedophile reports .

    • @valentapaxman
      @valentapaxman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How does this apply to Amber Heard who was an abuser and the men AND women who have been the victims of female abusers ?

    • @Whysoserious648
      @Whysoserious648 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Victim mentality

  • @James_36
    @James_36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    unwanted attention? a man cant possibly know this in advance. A man has to go out there and try their luck in the first instance you cannot have it all your own way. Stupid statement to make

  • @verityledner3927
    @verityledner3927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Come on are we not going to talk about the elephant in the room. We have to have signs tell people about touching because we have people from other parts of the world living in the UK that see women as second class citizens, in their little brains women should all be grateful for their attention. I've actually made a real fuss on the tube when this has happened to me in the past. Thankfully I'm old and fat now so it's not happened for a while. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @janelliot5643
    @janelliot5643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The censors didn't like that I said this on a comment, so I'm saying it out here:
    Men, whining about not being able to know if attention is unwanted, just keep your hands (and the rest of your body) to yourself, and you'll be fine.

    • @valentapaxman
      @valentapaxman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How does that apply to Johnny Depp's situation though?

  • @ncorp2668
    @ncorp2668 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unfortunately, on JD vs AH, this is where Kellie is incorrect. Common sensec would tell you AH is the vicktem. She should know what it's like to be on the receiving end of a media campaign constructed to reverse offender and vicktem.

    • @ashbash635
      @ashbash635 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately you are the one who is incorrect. If you research this case all the way back to the beginning and all the public records and evidence is available online. Research it properly and you will find AH was a toxic narcissist who verbally, physically and mentally abused JD. She then launched a public campaign where she misrepresented herself as a victim. There are provable demonstrative lies from beginning to end from AH. There is a wealth of evidence that prove Depp was physically attacked and ended up in hospital and AHs own words prove her abusive behavior. Men can be victims too.

    • @ncorp2668
      @ncorp2668 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoever commented, TH-cam is hiding your reply.

  • @stevek4584
    @stevek4584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5'1 - small but lovely

  • @calstonjew
    @calstonjew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grooming gangs.

  • @petercharles2347
    @petercharles2347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s something hot about Kelly Jay Keen…soz.

  • @thetransagender2866
    @thetransagender2866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing better do do, says ole Kelz who flew to the USA to shout at a swimmer 😂

  • @rosaob5842
    @rosaob5842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has reminded me of the modern remake of Alice in Wonderland. It exemplifies the current obsession of sexualising everything. There was many shots of barely restrained heaving bussom, bum shots, adult sighing and more. If you want to watch porn, just watch it, but don't make everything sexual! Alice in Wonderland WAS a charming imaginative adventure purely to delight children, leave it alone!

  • @ravenraynesnest
    @ravenraynesnest ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Common sense is prevailing in the Depp vs Heard case. It's time that all abusers be held accountable regardless if male or female and in this case it happens to be a woman who abused a man. It happens. It's ridiculous to think women cannot be abusers.

    • @sheilaoreilly6826
      @sheilaoreilly6826 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's also ridiculous to think women are a significant group of abusers when the data shows men are consistently in the high 80% to high 90% of perpetrators of domestic violence and sexual assault/rape across most, if not all, countries in the world.

    • @Ash-gtr32
      @Ash-gtr32 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sheilaoreilly6826Ah the classic "men do X more therefore. . . " excuse to give abusive women a free pass.

  • @groomys67
    @groomys67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:20 Mike decides to bring skin colour into it - but don't worry it's just another reference to white people. Thought better of him.

  • @GlennYarwood
    @GlennYarwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was Posey just a name to hide her identity?🤔

    • @dragonfox2.058
      @dragonfox2.058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its' a trademark

    • @BlookbugIV
      @BlookbugIV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Posey Parker is a jokey play-on-words online handle derived from “nosey parker”. I’ve seen it cause a bit of confusion with some because it resembles the name of the American actress Parker Posey.
      Whether she initially used it because of the sensitivities surrounding her activism or simply because a colourful pseudonym is common practice online, I can’t say.

    • @GlennYarwood
      @GlennYarwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlookbugIV lol I had no idea

    • @monk3yboy69
      @monk3yboy69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A stage name ….. very common practice online.

    • @lindalaw5466
      @lindalaw5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it was an old social media name