@@jordandavis4058 Every song of Lost in the waves is different, every song of this album is different of who they used to be, stop trying to make up things. This is not progress. Same thing with Thornhill, stop please please.
God i hate this sound, i hate this poppy architectcore badomencore garbage with user friendly breakdowns and riffs soundings like they playing under a bathtub, i miss the furious heavy and punchy loud production metalcores from 2013 with actual good riffs and actual creativity in the genre.
Which sucks because concrete jungle is not even a good song. Bad Omens is as popular as it is due to TikTok being thirsty over Noah, the music is hardly of importance. Their heavy songs now are really soulless and uninspired, so it sucks to see other bands "following their success" which had nothing to do with music.
@@paytonbusteed6457 idr care about cheesy ass lyrics considering i bump deftones which has nonsensical lyrics sometimes but honestly i like YW more but barely because at least the singles were decent, wasnt a high point for them for sure and there were some bad tracks but stigma is just... boring as shit, octanecore crap that sounds incomplete, fuck sakes the songs arent even like more than three minutes. The only good track is Tombstone and thats pretty much their "Last Chance to Dance" moment in this album. Then again, ADTR actually was more unique in their prime than wage war ever was, theyve always been just a metalcore band that had two great albums then tried to be radio rock (except their only decent songwriter is Cody and even then he writes tracks for all the big bands like FIR and MMF and bro country dudes like Hardy)
Yeah it feels like shittier version of true power Edit: not to say true power is bad. I think it’s an 8/10. But they took that and gave to a shitty producer and ghost wrtwittee
@@chriskenyon6519 for who? Wage war? I don’t think so but the music sounds like it. I prevail doesn’t, Bryan and rest of guys write all of their stuff with their producer from trauma and true power.
The Show’s About to Start - Miracle by Bad Omens Self-Sacrifice - Artificial Suicide by Bad Omens Nail5 - Holy Roller by Spiritbox Blur - Make Believe by Memphis May Fire Happy Hunting - Any dancey Korn song In My Blood - Gossip by Sleeping with Sirens Is This How It Ends - Circle the Drain by THEM
I agree with you completely. Definitely the best reviewer, you are honest and real and can back it up with your respectable takes. Keep doing you bogdan
Huge candidate for the "most meh aoty" Definitely Deadweight was their peak for me, Pressure is just ok and Manic has some good riffs and enjoyable groovy songs
Watched another person react and they said it best. It’s just soulless. It hits all the checkboxes and has some experimental aspects but there’s just nothing else there. It’s metalcore pop
@@sharing64tacosthere is no problem with really liking metal pop, this is just where subjective differences in opinions when it comes to music butt heads. In my personal opinion, I feel this album has no substance, but finding meaning in music is up to the individual.
also, this album has no direction. like there’s poppy tracks like magnetic or blur, mixed in with heavy breakdowns that feel like they were only added to fill a quota
This is like the Path. Songs who are either boring heavy and very repetitive, or Octane Core songs with very basic structure. I miss when they felt metalcore songs with mostly screams and an epic chorus like Twenty One, Youngblood, Basic Hate, Desperate, Witness. Even Manic had Relapse, If Tomorrow Never Comes. In this one, there is none.
I overall like the album, but I agree with what you’re saying. Relapse, Teeth, True Colors, If Tomorrow Never Comes. Those songs had a great mix of heavy and melodic choruses. But I can see why they’d be tired of writing those types of songs
I gotta be real Relisten to The Path, it grows on you. It's still got heart, and the positive, encouraging message does help carry, and makes The Path a solid motivational piece. Funnily enough, years after it's release, it's an album I listen to it i need the mental boost. Nowhere near as good as Dark Skies, but it definitely ain't bad.
@@minecraftsteve2504 i totally get that ! And I live the soft singles of The Path ! This is so similar to this album, a few great soft song, a forgettable half and 1 or 2 good heavy songs. But this is still fun and easy to listen !
To me, Manic was THE song of the last album. It showed that something new could happen in metalcore, and this album feels like them trying to realize the potential of that new sign. I think this album falls with its compressed mastering and guitar tone. If they did this album with the same things as last album and had some more time to find inspiration I think this could've been new and interesting and perhaps their best. I think the popularity of last album got to them too much when making this. I think it had lots of potential, but unfortunately fell short a little.
You know me bro, I’m the biggest wage war simp. This album just doesn’t work. I hate when they say it’s their best work and they have lyrics like “Side to Side, Wall to Wall” just unacceptable. I do appreciate them trying something new, but even in trying, you’re gonna fail. This is a fail on Wage War’s part.
I noticed a bit of experimentation compared to Manic, but I feel like they need to get out and far of their comfort zone going forward. This album felt too close to their previous work at times, but not as good. That's how I feel at least
They didn’t say it was their best work, they said they had the most fun making it. Just be happy for them. Yes it’s music for us to listen to but it’s also for them too.
I feel like the problem with the album is that it just seems forced. Like they were just like “oh crap we haven’t released anything in 3 years” but didn’t really have any creative drive behind the new songs, which leads to the formulaic “Octane-core” stuff that will bring them success to the masses without doing anything special.
Overproduced production is what totally kills it for me, riffs on albums like these doesn’t sound like riffs they sound ChatGPTs idea of what a metal riff sounds like
After listening to this album for a while, my three favorite songs might be THE SHOW'S ABOUT TO START IN MY BLOOD HAPPY HAUNTING Man, I like Wage War, but this album is just... not hitting the mark. It's not bad, it's fine, and I guess that's enough? I'm sure people will llike it, and I can see why, good for them. I, however, would love to see the band experiment wildly with their sound moving forward, Anything different would be a nice change.
I like the album pressure and I do like this album, didn’t care for their last honestly but this album is like easy listening to me. Just chill while I’m driving if I’m not looking to hear the heaviest breakdowns in the moment.
They said that MANIC (the song) was an absolute hitpiece and I swear to god, their label probably pushed them into that direction. But on the way they lost ther technicality and intensity; I just listened to pressure after that and even though the album has some black sheeps - there is just something about the older ones that feel more vibrant. Here just endlessly repeating choruses and power chords and they barely scratch the 3 minute mark with most songs. A few bangers, but the whole album is over so fast, its crazy, i felt NOTHING.
Thanks for the reaction! I just commented yesterday asking for this video. Tombstone's Slayer riff is sick and is the best heavy song on the album. Happy Hunting sounds like Rob Zombie. In My Blood wasn't good at first, but it grew on me and has great potential played live. I prefer if they went Manic mixed with Slayer riffs. If they have softer songs, they have to hit emotionally. Blur has the best production overall even if it is very poppy. Hellbent is a classic Pressure Wage War song, and it does alright. This album is all over the place in terms of style. It does well with some songs, but others are a complete miss. I'm not a fan of the Five Finger Death Punch corny lyrics in the heavy songs. Is This How It Ends had a lot of potential emotionally, but they just throw the final chorus in without any build-up or suspense to captive anyone. Imagine a quiet part in that song similar to Youngblood. The outro is emptiness when it should've had clean vocals to properly wrap up the song. The album should've been longer and they could've cut out some ideas they had to strengthen a specific style for this record.
I really didn't like Manic on first listen, but it grew on me drastically, and i love it now. This album is not going to be like that. It feels like it was made in a factory.
I'm new to wage war so I thought this album was kinda decent until I decided to check out their previous albumsm I now understand why people really disliked this
I for one am incredibly surprised you vibe with In My Blood, especially with the Swampcore breakdown🤣 I like Blur and Is This How It Ends for Cody's vocals, I really enjoy his cleans. This album is sooooo all over the place. Forced breakdowns in songs where it's very unnecessary, breakdowns that don't really fit the rest of the songs. Overall its like a 6/10. It's fine.
This was my first Wage War album, and I actually really liked it. Definitely not my favorite of metal music (Nothing More, I Prevail, From Ashes To New, and We Came As Romans are some bands I love a lot). However, I did enjoy a pretty large amount of the album, and I can definitely hear the potential behind their sound.
Like you said, my individual judgment/opinion on the new work doesn’t matter that much. It’ll be probably do just fine in popularity and streams, and I’m glad for them for that. But to me, these new songs don’t feel genuine at all. Of course you can’t expect them to make Blueprints 2 or Deadweight 2.0, but this does not bring any of the feelings I have had with previous WW songs.
Dude, this review is just so on point with how I feel. Like, not only with this album but with the band as a whole. Blueprints? Banger. Deadweight? Banger and probably my favorite from them. Pressure? Mid and the new direction was being taken. Manic? For me, an uptick from Pressure but with songs I’d skip. But this? Holy fuck, this is the worst, most uninspired collection of songs they have ever released. Just add em to the list with Architects, Parkway Drive, and The Ghost Inside because we’re probably done getting quality metal releases from them.
I don’t understand why metalheads get their panties in a twist when a band dare step out of the norm for the genre; it’s like they get offended because the band went outside the imaginary box they set for them. I love all genres, metal happens to be the one I lean towards the most. This album has a good mix of everything, Manic is still my favorite but this is growing on me.
What I learned about this album and what Wage War is doing is that you have to give it time and get used to it. After listening to the album about 3 times I learned to like some of the songs like hellbent and in my blood.
Unfortunately for me WW are like The Word Alive. Peaked in the first two albums , put out another 5 after that and never got close after which is a real shame.
i actually enjoy this album because my sense of taste is fucked but what pisses me off the most is Briton is trying some different cool vocal shit like a few gnarly highs and actual gutturals and then the album sounds like this
I actually like it much more than the 2nd and 4th album. I like this experimental fast forward rock.....I know I know not.much metalcore....but what they did there instrumental wise is so fresh....and some punchlines are incredible and the songs are catchy after one and a half days.
@@Travis-y2w I'm not a fan of Wage War at all, I like them thanks to songs like Youngbloods or Twenty-One at the first place, but yes I don't mind Blur. I'm not ruining anything, music is subjective, and if I'm not mistaken I think that they are doing this for them before everyone else, since it's a consensus within the band that it's their best work to date (and for what it's worth : I don't think that it's indeed their best album at all) Anyway, let people like what they want without telling them that they are ruining a band for one or another reason, there are way more important things to worry about rn ;)
@@Travis-y2w when I said that I just wanted to let you know that I think it's pointless to bother a person this way just for a musical opinion, you should focus on your own stuff. I'm down to discuss about music because I love that, but you seem very close minded to be honest. Again, Blur is like the only song on the album with Tombstone that I can say I liked, and for Blur, is just because of the chorus that I find great (yes, even if it's poppy af). This album and all of these songs are NOT what I love at all ! I'm just trying to be positive and open minded when I can because there are always good elements to catch. For exemple, I tried (very hard) to catch things I can like concerning the new Architects album and I found nothing, and it's okay ! I don't think that when a band make a disappointing album it's the end, there are plenty of exemples of bands that came back with a better album, maybe it will be the case for Wage War. Anyway : cheers 🥂
Where did the sudden hate for Wage War come from? I've not seen many reactions to this album, yet, the MOMENT KL or BMTH release, there's dozens of reactions up within 2 hours. Makes zero sense did Wage War do something that warrants the hate?
To me, the issue is the copy and paste song structures and the mix on the last few albums. Heavy breakdowns and clean catchy choruses aren’t the problem (that’s actually my preference) but these seem robotic and generic. There is a little variety, but most songs on Manic and Stigma have had the same structure, down to the chorus outro being the literal song title being sang/screamed into the riff. Riffs are cool, Breakdowns are heavy, choruses are catchy, but they all sounds the same and the mix is so overproduced that nothing is unique and it all sounds the same. Throwing the same things into every song doesn’t fit. Deadweight stylistically was unique. It had breakdowns and catchy choruses and nice riffs, but it had personality and grit without being overproduced. Every song sounded different yet cohesive. The “I don’t feel anything” is spot on.
Theres some notably good parts in some of the songs but they aren't enough for me to to listen to the entire song again for. Theyve gone too "radio safe" for my taste unfortunately
Real musicians want to change and continue to make new and different music, I think that this album has its flaws, but is still great, I also think that this style is a precursor to something better to come.
Same, when it dropped I really liked it actually, and I'm someone who obsessed over the first two albums, I think this album is either a hit or miss depending on your taste, you like it or you hate it. I will admit there are a few songs on the album that kind of mush together in my mind when trying to remember them but I still enjoy them. Was so surprised when I got online and saw the hate but I can understand it tho.
We have some differing opinions when it comes to all of your new wage war reactions. What are some new music you actually do like? Maybe some suggestions.
A issue i have is i feel like the lyrics were created around the title of the songs. Instead of writing songs and then comin up with a title, its like they came up with the title first with the added a stipulation that they need to include the title in the lyrics of the song and then created the lyrics and then song. I'll listen to the album maybe here and there but i was more surprised the album when i finshed the album instead of being hooked on by songs. The mid break down in "In My Blood" was the only repeatable thing for me
This is why for years I’ve been telling people that nothing will ever top the 2008-2013 metalcore era, not only the productions were way more punchy and heavy but it was also the peak creativity in metalcore without everone doing the exact same architectcore badomen core garbage.
I do kinda agree with production feeling a bit stale and most songs feeling... mmm... not generic per se, but kinda boring nonetheless, despite having elements I'd usually enjoy? But I actually do enjoy HAPPY HUNTING a lot - it's pretty fun, catchy and kinda reminds me of banger racing soundtracks. But that's pretty much the only track I see myself coming back to throughout the year. I also thought that Magnetic, Tombstone and In My Blood are quite alright. Nail5 I liked initially but now don't feel much abt it. And I didn't really vibe with anything else off that record. This might've worked better as a short EP tbh, because although it's not horrendous - it kinda lacks personality and cohesion imo.
I think the album is ok. First of all, it is hard to beat the expectations after Manic. They tried to explore the new sound established in Manic, but it didn't really hit the spot. Another thing which is significantly different from Manic is the number of catchy songs/choruses/riffs. I listened to Stigma today and it kinda hard to recall anything except the intro with its "wall to wall" and chorus to Magnetic and la-la-la song. With Manic, each or at least almost every song had an identity. Relapse, Teeth, Manic, True Colors, High Horse, etc. As I said, not bad, but there is a lot of room for improvement and I am curious to see what comes next.
I think if they went with that more Industrial metal sound on the first 2 songs then it would've been a more cohesive listen, the main issue is they try mixing a newer sound, with the more ballad type songs, while still trying to be stupidly heavy and it doesn't really work imo
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they should have called this album ''Dissociative identity disorder'' because this is all over the fucking place
They did say every song was different lol
@@jordandavis4058 Every song of Lost in the waves is different, every song of this album is different of who they used to be, stop trying to make up things.
This is not progress.
Same thing with Thornhill, stop please please.
And 90% of it sounds like a Bad Omens rip off
God i hate this sound, i hate this poppy architectcore badomencore garbage with user friendly breakdowns and riffs soundings like they playing under a bathtub, i miss the furious heavy and punchy loud production metalcores from 2013 with actual good riffs and actual creativity in the genre.
it feels like every band in the genre is trying to emulate bad omens sound because of the success of concrete jungle and no one can
It's the Bring Me The Horizon effect all over again. So many bands tried to copy Sempiternal for years and were never able to.
How on earth does this album sound anything like bad omens? Lol
@@jamyjet It has a lot of Bad Omens electronic and production elements.
@@jamyjet Lol the first song on the album literally sounds like Miracle and NAIL5 is a cheap copy of ARTIFICIAL SUICIDE.
Which sucks because concrete jungle is not even a good song. Bad Omens is as popular as it is due to TikTok being thirsty over Noah, the music is hardly of importance. Their heavy songs now are really soulless and uninspired, so it sucks to see other bands "following their success" which had nothing to do with music.
This feel like A Day to Remember all over again when they released Youre Welcome
At least that album was better than this train wreck 🤧
@@arisemercyy3224That's like trying to compare dog poop to cat poop lol
@@arisemercyy3224How is you’re welcome better then this? That album is poppy and filled with cheesy lyrics
@@paytonbusteed6457 I agree this is so much better than that
@@paytonbusteed6457 idr care about cheesy ass lyrics considering i bump deftones which has nonsensical lyrics sometimes but honestly i like YW more but barely because at least the singles were decent, wasnt a high point for them for sure and there were some bad tracks but stigma is just... boring as shit, octanecore crap that sounds incomplete, fuck sakes the songs arent even like more than three minutes. The only good track is Tombstone and thats pretty much their "Last Chance to Dance" moment in this album. Then again, ADTR actually was more unique in their prime than wage war ever was, theyve always been just a metalcore band that had two great albums then tried to be radio rock (except their only decent songwriter is Cody and even then he writes tracks for all the big bands like FIR and MMF and bro country dudes like Hardy)
The ending breakdown to “the shows about to start” was the best part of the album
Bro this is absolutely true. The rest is absolute garbage
yes, first track is the best track
Feels like a weird mix between I Prevail and FFAK. Self Sacrifice is the only song I liked.
Yeah it feels like shittier version of true power
Edit: not to say true power is bad. I think it’s an 8/10. But they took that and gave to a shitty producer and ghost wrtwittee
And dayseeker
@@WouldYouKindly-jp2uy do they even have a ghost writer? I thought Cody wrote all their stuff. Which makes this even worse. lol
@@chriskenyon6519 for who? Wage war? I don’t think so but the music sounds like it. I prevail doesn’t, Bryan and rest of guys write all of their stuff with their producer from trauma and true power.
Facts
The Show’s About to Start - Miracle by Bad Omens
Self-Sacrifice - Artificial Suicide by Bad Omens
Nail5 - Holy Roller by Spiritbox
Blur - Make Believe by Memphis May Fire
Happy Hunting - Any dancey Korn song
In My Blood - Gossip by Sleeping with Sirens
Is This How It Ends - Circle the Drain by THEM
Not Blur, Hellbent- it's Memphis May Fire, for real
The riff in blur - doomsday by architects?
Big facts lol
happy hunting sounds like dragula from rob zombie LOL
Tombstone's Breakdown - Reaper by Fit for a King
I agree with you completely. Definitely the best reviewer, you are honest and real and can back it up with your respectable takes. Keep doing you bogdan
The entire album got me questioning if I wasn't listening to ADTR by mistake
Huge candidate for the "most meh aoty"
Definitely Deadweight was their peak for me, Pressure is just ok and Manic has some good riffs and enjoyable groovy songs
Watched another person react and they said it best. It’s just soulless. It hits all the checkboxes and has some experimental aspects but there’s just nothing else there. It’s metalcore pop
That's bad why? I honestly really like pop metal and rather listen to this than most metal being produced today
@@sharing64tacosthere is no problem with really liking metal pop, this is just where subjective differences in opinions when it comes to music butt heads. In my personal opinion, I feel this album has no substance, but finding meaning in music is up to the individual.
@@jumbler2 understandable, that's a good point
@@sharing64tacos poppy metalcore can be really good as long as it's done honestly, this just feels like box checking
@@rzultypies that is true, I do feel like this album isnt really album but just a deluxe of Manic. I personally really loved Hellbent
Your critique was spot on with this one bro.
I knew you were going to hate this 😂
This sounds like metal you would show to people who don’t like metal
💯, If i listen to a metalcore Album and think to myself "huh, i could Play this with my girlfriend around" then its probably Not metalcore 😂
Yeah, if you want them to hate metal
also, this album has no direction. like there’s poppy tracks like magnetic or blur, mixed in with heavy breakdowns that feel like they were only added to fill a quota
This is like the Path. Songs who are either boring heavy and very repetitive, or Octane Core songs with very basic structure. I miss when they felt metalcore songs with mostly screams and an epic chorus like Twenty One, Youngblood, Basic Hate, Desperate, Witness.
Even Manic had Relapse, If Tomorrow Never Comes. In this one, there is none.
I overall like the album, but I agree with what you’re saying. Relapse, Teeth, True Colors, If Tomorrow Never Comes. Those songs had a great mix of heavy and melodic choruses. But I can see why they’d be tired of writing those types of songs
I gotta be real
Relisten to The Path, it grows on you. It's still got heart, and the positive, encouraging message does help carry, and makes The Path a solid motivational piece.
Funnily enough, years after it's release, it's an album I listen to it i need the mental boost.
Nowhere near as good as Dark Skies, but it definitely ain't bad.
@@minecraftsteve2504 i totally get that ! And I live the soft singles of The Path !
This is so similar to this album, a few great soft song, a forgettable half and 1 or 2 good heavy songs.
But this is still fun and easy to listen !
Let’s just hold on until Phinehas releases a new album. We all they are true to staying heavy and saucy.
If Phinehas drops it's automatically AOTY for me
Are they working on something currently ? I don’t have any social media anymore so I’m out of the loop until I see something pop up on Spotify haha
I did not have "Wage War sounding like a less fun Powerman 5000" on my 2024 bingo card.
I been searching everywhere for a powerman reference. Thank you lol😅
Bahaha this hurts, but in the right way lol
Straight up Happy Hunting
Actually...Push It by Static-X
I honestly felt like this what you would hear at a shitty strip mall Laser Tag/Arcade place in the 2000s.
It’s so bad i can’t even sugarcoat it.
You better off listening to the other 2024 Metal album that contains 10 tracks, with yellow cover art and produced by Drew Fulk.
I'd call it more green, but yes
my fav part of the album is the cover art
To me, Manic was THE song of the last album. It showed that something new could happen in metalcore, and this album feels like them trying to realize the potential of that new sign. I think this album falls with its compressed mastering and guitar tone. If they did this album with the same things as last album and had some more time to find inspiration I think this could've been new and interesting and perhaps their best. I think the popularity of last album got to them too much when making this. I think it had lots of potential, but unfortunately fell short a little.
You know me bro, I’m the biggest wage war simp. This album just doesn’t work. I hate when they say it’s their best work and they have lyrics like “Side to Side, Wall to Wall” just unacceptable. I do appreciate them trying something new, but even in trying, you’re gonna fail. This is a fail on Wage War’s part.
I noticed a bit of experimentation compared to Manic, but I feel like they need to get out and far of their comfort zone going forward. This album felt too close to their previous work at times, but not as good.
That's how I feel at least
@bruhmomentseverywhere That lyric was very tongue in cheek tbf
BLU-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R
HP Baxxter level of lyrics on this album
They didn’t say it was their best work, they said they had the most fun making it. Just be happy for them. Yes it’s music for us to listen to but it’s also for them too.
Blur was definitely meant for octane radio
personally, its my favorite off the album
I feel like the problem with the album is that it just seems forced. Like they were just like “oh crap we haven’t released anything in 3 years” but didn’t really have any creative drive behind the new songs, which leads to the formulaic “Octane-core” stuff that will bring them success to the masses without doing anything special.
Album's fun, I dig most tracks. Then again, I had no expectations.
The 'side to side, wall to wall' breakdown was sick, but my favourite part of the album probably shouldn't be the first bit
This album deserves many awards for being the most boring and over-produced almost metal album of the year
Overproduced production is what totally kills it for me, riffs on albums like these doesn’t sound like riffs they sound ChatGPTs idea of what a metal riff sounds like
Couldn’t agree more…
Listen to it more than once, it’ll grow on you. I wasn’t blown away either, but self sacrifice is such a banger imo. Makes me go nuts lmao
After listening to this album for a while, my three favorite songs might be
THE SHOW'S ABOUT TO START
IN MY BLOOD
HAPPY HAUNTING
Man, I like Wage War, but this album is just... not hitting the mark. It's not bad, it's fine, and I guess that's enough? I'm sure people will llike it, and I can see why, good for them.
I, however, would love to see the band experiment wildly with their sound moving forward, Anything different would be a nice change.
They're getting paid. That's all they care about at this point.
Shame on them for trying to make a decent living doing what they love instead of making the same album over and over and over again. Bunch of a-holes!
@@beausmith9066 they... Are.. making the same album over and over..
@@_ForzaIf that we’re the case this would sound exactly like blueprints
Well boo
Manic was too peak to follow
Their 3rd best album
Blueprints and Deadweight were too peak to follow.
@@FloFranzenthose albums are boring as fuck lmao
@@nickdotjpg undoubtably terrible take
@@nickdotjpg blueprints is the most creative this band has ever been
Listened to it in the gym today and I know for a fact I'll never listen to it again. So boring and empty.
hope you still got a good pump
@@gafuraskarov2814 not the best 😄
@@ben_angel 😔
like the others albums from this band
I feel the same... an empty album and for me I think that this album is like many others of any generic band
In my blood was the song that I think needed a breakdown. But they save the quick little part for the end
I honestly feel like you could slide in a day to remembers "Feedback" between a track and it would fit perfectly
this is Wage War's You're Welcome
100% it is
I like the album pressure and I do like this album, didn’t care for their last honestly but this album is like easy listening to me. Just chill while I’m driving if I’m not looking to hear the heaviest breakdowns in the moment.
"Happy Hunting" is literally just a worse "Out For Blood" by Code Orange
They said that MANIC (the song) was an absolute hitpiece and I swear to god, their label probably pushed them into that direction. But on the way they lost ther technicality and intensity; I just listened to pressure after that and even though the album has some black sheeps - there is just something about the older ones that feel more vibrant. Here just endlessly repeating choruses and power chords and they barely scratch the 3 minute mark with most songs. A few bangers, but the whole album is over so fast, its crazy, i felt NOTHING.
Thanks for the reaction! I just commented yesterday asking for this video. Tombstone's Slayer riff is sick and is the best heavy song on the album. Happy Hunting sounds like Rob Zombie. In My Blood wasn't good at first, but it grew on me and has great potential played live. I prefer if they went Manic mixed with Slayer riffs. If they have softer songs, they have to hit emotionally. Blur has the best production overall even if it is very poppy. Hellbent is a classic Pressure Wage War song, and it does alright. This album is all over the place in terms of style. It does well with some songs, but others are a complete miss. I'm not a fan of the Five Finger Death Punch corny lyrics in the heavy songs. Is This How It Ends had a lot of potential emotionally, but they just throw the final chorus in without any build-up or suspense to captive anyone. Imagine a quiet part in that song similar to Youngblood. The outro is emptiness when it should've had clean vocals to properly wrap up the song. The album should've been longer and they could've cut out some ideas they had to strengthen a specific style for this record.
Happy Hunting reminds me of MIW Red White & Boom, just sped up a little lol
I really didn't like Manic on first listen, but it grew on me drastically, and i love it now. This album is not going to be like that. It feels like it was made in a factory.
Dude as soon as you said holy roller on Nail5 I was like That’s what it sounds like! Lol
Listened to this album 3 times and still don't know how I feel about it lol
3 times? I admire your patience!
Foreign Hands album reaction coming?
Im happy sticking with Blueprints and Deadweight (and Death Roll)
"we're still heavy guys pls don't leave us :("
Happy Hunting gave some strong Five Finger Death Punch vibes and the intro to it made me think of Follow the Wolves by Demon Hunter
I'm glad i wasn't the only one that had these exact reactions, IS THIS HOW IT ENDS? is the only song I honestly enjoyed
I felt the same way when I first listened to it. Some of the songs definitely grew on me though. I wanted more but it’s not terrible
Honestly didn't think it was terrible, not the best album, but there are some good songs. Blur is sick.
That chorus is nails on a chalkboard lol, horrendous
@@impulsefade3041 you’re so edgy
@@zedehsea1525nah man, it’s just garbage
So glad they released an album comprised entirely of octane slop
I'm new to wage war so I thought this album was kinda decent until I decided to check out their previous albumsm I now understand why people really disliked this
I for one am incredibly surprised you vibe with In My Blood, especially with the Swampcore breakdown🤣
I like Blur and Is This How It Ends for Cody's vocals, I really enjoy his cleans. This album is sooooo all over the place. Forced breakdowns in songs where it's very unnecessary, breakdowns that don't really fit the rest of the songs. Overall its like a 6/10. It's fine.
This was my first Wage War album, and I actually really liked it. Definitely not my favorite of metal music (Nothing More, I Prevail, From Ashes To New, and We Came As Romans are some bands I love a lot). However, I did enjoy a pretty large amount of the album, and I can definitely hear the potential behind their sound.
I can't believe this is the band that made Blueprints
Like you said, my individual judgment/opinion on the new work doesn’t matter that much. It’ll be probably do just fine in popularity and streams, and I’m glad for them for that.
But to me, these new songs don’t feel genuine at all. Of course you can’t expect them to make Blueprints 2 or Deadweight 2.0, but this does not bring any of the feelings I have had with previous WW songs.
Dude, this review is just so on point with how I feel. Like, not only with this album but with the band as a whole.
Blueprints? Banger. Deadweight? Banger and probably my favorite from them. Pressure? Mid and the new direction was being taken. Manic? For me, an uptick from Pressure but with songs I’d skip. But this? Holy fuck, this is the worst, most uninspired collection of songs they have ever released.
Just add em to the list with Architects, Parkway Drive, and The Ghost Inside because we’re probably done getting quality metal releases from them.
I actually really enjoyed this album, got me groovin
I agree
I don’t understand why metalheads get their panties in a twist when a band dare step out of the norm for the genre; it’s like they get offended because the band went outside the imaginary box they set for them. I love all genres, metal happens to be the one I lean towards the most. This album has a good mix of everything, Manic is still my favorite but this is growing on me.
@@Nero-Forte99there's a difference between different and meh
All my favorite bands dropping balls on albums this year.
"Happy Hunting" sounds like "When Worlds Collide" by Powerman 5000
What I learned about this album and what Wage War is doing is that you have to give it time and get used to it. After listening to the album about 3 times I learned to like some of the songs like hellbent and in my blood.
I’m grateful for honest reaction
7:46 has me in tears. 😭😂
Unfortunately for me WW are like The Word Alive. Peaked in the first two albums , put out another 5 after that and never got close after which is a real shame.
I honestly think this album rips. it's so good
It sounds like modern day hair metal, it feels kinda goofy to listen to.
It’s terrible
The title of this video alone...same brotha', same.
Liked the album, decent in my opinion. Appreciate the transparency in your review. Kudos!
i actually enjoy this album because my sense of taste is fucked but what pisses me off the most is Briton is trying some different cool vocal shit like a few gnarly highs and actual gutturals and then the album sounds like this
I actually like it much more than the 2nd and 4th album. I like this experimental fast forward rock.....I know I know not.much metalcore....but what they did there instrumental wise is so fresh....and some punchlines are incredible and the songs are catchy after one and a half days.
The fact you think this shit is better than deadweight is so fucking brain dead it’s insane
Blur is actually pretty good, it grows on me quite fast, great chorus
@@Travis-y2w I'm not a fan of Wage War at all, I like them thanks to songs like Youngbloods or Twenty-One at the first place, but yes I don't mind Blur. I'm not ruining anything, music is subjective, and if I'm not mistaken I think that they are doing this for them before everyone else, since it's a consensus within the band that it's their best work to date (and for what it's worth : I don't think that it's indeed their best album at all)
Anyway, let people like what they want without telling them that they are ruining a band for one or another reason, there are way more important things to worry about rn ;)
@@Travis-y2w when I said that I just wanted to let you know that I think it's pointless to bother a person this way just for a musical opinion, you should focus on your own stuff. I'm down to discuss about music because I love that, but you seem very close minded to be honest. Again, Blur is like the only song on the album with Tombstone that I can say I liked, and for Blur, is just because of the chorus that I find great (yes, even if it's poppy af). This album and all of these songs are NOT what I love at all ! I'm just trying to be positive and open minded when I can because there are always good elements to catch. For exemple, I tried (very hard) to catch things I can like concerning the new Architects album and I found nothing, and it's okay ! I don't think that when a band make a disappointing album it's the end, there are plenty of exemples of bands that came back with a better album, maybe it will be the case for Wage War.
Anyway : cheers 🥂
This entire album was so lifeless. I’m pretty shocked about this coming from WW
As someone who does not enjoy Wage War at all, this is actually really good imo
It seems like Briton Bond is holding back, he should do a side project and really let his screams shine.
Anybody remember blueprints? That was peak. Pepperidge farm remembers
happy hunting is giving rob zombie
I'd go back to MANIC. I can listen to more songs off that album that still hold up.
Not a SINGLE blegh on the whole album. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
I really like Self Sacrifice, Blur, In My Blood (from the new songs)
Wage war has hit the fit for a king phase
No this is that architectcore badomencore garbage that became trendy in 2021
Where did the sudden hate for Wage War come from? I've not seen many reactions to this album, yet, the MOMENT KL or BMTH release, there's dozens of reactions up within 2 hours. Makes zero sense did Wage War do something that warrants the hate?
I think manic is their best album but don’t shoot me lol
I think manic was the album they fitted best with and yeah I agree.Doesnt stop blueprints and deadweight from being gold though
To me, the issue is the copy and paste song structures and the mix on the last few albums. Heavy breakdowns and clean catchy choruses aren’t the problem (that’s actually my preference) but these seem robotic and generic. There is a little variety, but most songs on Manic and Stigma have had the same structure, down to the chorus outro being the literal song title being sang/screamed into the riff.
Riffs are cool, Breakdowns are heavy, choruses are catchy, but they all sounds the same and the mix is so overproduced that nothing is unique and it all sounds the same. Throwing the same things into every song doesn’t fit.
Deadweight stylistically was unique. It had breakdowns and catchy choruses and nice riffs, but it had personality and grit without being overproduced. Every song sounded different yet cohesive. The “I don’t feel anything” is spot on.
Theres some notably good parts in some of the songs but they aren't enough for me to to listen to the entire song again for. Theyve gone too "radio safe" for my taste unfortunately
Manic was a huge banger of an album for me, I was really expecting something from this album. I am disappointed for sure x)
Real musicians want to change and continue to make new and different music, I think that this album has its flaws, but is still great, I also think that this style is a precursor to something better to come.
This is their St.Anger.
St. Anger is at least original and "unsafe", but I partially understand it, metallica then also tried to show some "heavy"
interesting comparison
It's very different, and I like it. But I can understand how people don't like it.
I’m not an elitist that needs every album to sound the fucking same, so I’m fine with the change, I enjoyed the album so same haha
@nicholasblessing1907 enjoy your trash
Same, when it dropped I really liked it actually, and I'm someone who obsessed over the first two albums, I think this album is either a hit or miss depending on your taste, you like it or you hate it.
I will admit there are a few songs on the album that kind of mush together in my mind when trying to remember them but I still enjoy them.
Was so surprised when I got online and saw the hate but I can understand it tho.
We have some differing opinions when it comes to all of your new wage war reactions. What are some new music you actually do like? Maybe some suggestions.
A issue i have is i feel like the lyrics were created around the title of the songs. Instead of writing songs and then comin up with a title, its like they came up with the title first with the added a stipulation that they need to include the title in the lyrics of the song and then created the lyrics and then song. I'll listen to the album maybe here and there but i was more surprised the album when i finshed the album instead of being hooked on by songs. The mid break down in "In My Blood" was the only repeatable thing for me
Doom and Sleep Token has done irreparable damage to the creativity of the metal scene
Further proof that the big dogs of the metalcore scene are slowly losing it.
We must return to the underground to search for fresh new sounds.
Try Still Stayer, No Eye Has Seen and What Lies Below (just to name a few). I really like their work (Still Stayer especially)
Basically what Thrown is doing. Those dudes are killing it right now.
This is why for years I’ve been telling people that nothing will ever top the 2008-2013 metalcore era, not only the productions were way more punchy and heavy but it was also the peak creativity in metalcore without everone doing the exact same architectcore badomen core garbage.
@@saltyshrimppastawhat lies below is beyond incredible
I agree Thrown is good, try Bleed From Within! Their my favorite band in years.
Most repetitive album I've ever seen bro😭 When Bogdan said he was not a fan of Self Sacrifice I was like bro. You will NOT like the rest😂💀
Blur sounds like a starset song😂😂
I do kinda agree with production feeling a bit stale and most songs feeling... mmm... not generic per se, but kinda boring nonetheless, despite having elements I'd usually enjoy? But I actually do enjoy HAPPY HUNTING a lot - it's pretty fun, catchy and kinda reminds me of banger racing soundtracks. But that's pretty much the only track I see myself coming back to throughout the year. I also thought that Magnetic, Tombstone and In My Blood are quite alright. Nail5 I liked initially but now don't feel much abt it. And I didn't really vibe with anything else off that record. This might've worked better as a short EP tbh, because although it's not horrendous - it kinda lacks personality and cohesion imo.
It's like they took all modern metal-core elements and try to squeeze everything into one album.
I think the album is ok.
First of all, it is hard to beat the expectations after Manic. They tried to explore the new sound established in Manic, but it didn't really hit the spot.
Another thing which is significantly different from Manic is the number of catchy songs/choruses/riffs. I listened to Stigma today and it kinda hard to recall anything except the intro with its "wall to wall" and chorus to Magnetic and la-la-la song. With Manic, each or at least almost every song had an identity. Relapse, Teeth, Manic, True Colors, High Horse, etc.
As I said, not bad, but there is a lot of room for improvement and I am curious to see what comes next.
I expected to hate this and while it isn’t the worst thing ever it feels like no enjoyment was had making it lol
I think if they went with that more Industrial metal sound on the first 2 songs then it would've been a more cohesive listen, the main issue is they try mixing a newer sound, with the more ballad type songs, while still trying to be stupidly heavy and it doesn't really work imo
I also feel like a more industrial sound would suit the band. At least it would be more interesting than this.