After the Burial does it better though. ATB grooves like no other. I'd much rather listen to literally any ATB album than this Wage War album. It's not a good sign if the best track on the album sounds like a different band entirely.
It even sounds like the same not haha. I don't think it was intentional, it was probably one of those things where you're so influenced, you don't even realize how much until you inadvertently create something similar to your influence haha.
Ever since I opened Wage War, I'm a huge fan. I can agree that they sound pretty typical for metalcore but for me they've mastered it. I really like the blend of calm and banger songs every album. Experiments are good, but some times you need some good old metalcore, that where Wage War perfectly fits in for me.
Yes but tbh it is almost impossible to top either of these first albums..they are basically perfect to me and I think I'd say the same thing if Manic had been their debut.
@@Ryl0o For sure, man. I don't mean to disrespect or anything. Just wild that I didn't expect many ppl to like the song and now i feel to be in the minority hehe.
I remember reading on Reddit or Twitter that Wage War sticks to the "metalcore formula" because they make it work and they're good with it and I believe this record proves that. I really enjoyed it, though I agree some songs sound really similar but when you take it for what it is, it's a fun metalcore album.
perfectly put, there’s not a bad song on there and they all have enjoyable bits to them, it’s just their first 2 albums prove they’re capable of much more
Honestly, I love the album. Not one song i do not like but i am more into the generic feel. One thing i will say though is that i generally do not listen to songs that only have screams. I usually like the poppy cleans and so on but Death roll i just cannot stop listening to. There is just something about that song that gets me going. Along with High Horse. But for me, well done Wage War. It is generic but i am into that very much like Memphis May Fire. Very generic and very predictable but... bands like wage war and MMF are the best at this type of generic sound in my opinion so i will gladly accept and play on repeat. I respect your opinion though. I think most of your viewers will and should accept that this is just not your thing so keep doing what you do. It is great content.
I definitely agree with your review. Death Roll was by far my favorite. And it’s not the fact it’s heavy, but it just feels so much more metal than the others. I’m personally not a fan of the forced-in poppy choruses with the simple cookie-cutter structures. Just looking at the lengths of the songs tells you about all you need to know, unfortunately.
Man I'm honestly surprised you called this album bland haha I found every song to be different and original and honestly has grabbed me as there best album because of how every song is different
Pleasantly suprised by this album. Every song is good, like this is not a half good/half bad like Pressure was to me. Relapse, Death Roll, Godspeed and True Colors are bangers, and even the softer are good. They used to be on of my favourite band 5 years ago and they are clearly climbing back up
Yo bro you listen to Dying Wishs debut album that dropped today? If not you gotta and let me know what you think about it. I love it! It's a banger! Every single song is so good, theres NO fillers no skips.
I personally like the album very much. Why? I think the band just continued to develop the last album "Pressure", although I think this album is even harder than Pressure. The album has really cool neck breakers Death Roll, High Horse and also very good metal ballads like Slow Burn and Never Say Goodbye, which still have good break downs. But honestly, what do you expect from Wage War? Great breakdowns, beautiful melodies and songs that jump and pop in your face. And that's exactly what this album has. We clearly have a further development of the band from the last album, which I personally found very awesome. What also fascinates me about this band is that the two singers complement each other perfectly and just do a great job. You can still find comparable cool things at Bury Tomorrow. I would therefore like to hold up the flag for this album and just tell you that the album is great fun and that you can access it without hesitation. Greetings from Germany.
Was actually pleasantly surprised by this album. Had it on repeat all day. Don't understand how people can rave about spiritbox and then call this bland. Maybe I'm just crazy.
I agree. Spiritbox is amazing but other than Yellowjacket I don’t find myself repeating it at all fr but this album from wage war is so damn good and I’ve had it on repeat
I also feel that Wage has been in the game longer, in terms of what people deem as the flagships of metalcore. By no means am i undermining the success of either band. Though it is Spiritbox’s first album, one that got a lot coverage and a lot of people like. Doesn’t happen often. I feel Manic is not as bland metalcore as some are saying. You can see where they want to diverge in terms of production and even some song writing. I don’t feel like it was quite enough to impress people. Wage has done most of this before, and I feel like that’s why people are deeming it “bland.” My literal biggest criticism on the entire album is just the choruses. Not that they’re objectively badly written, but they cookie-cutter them so much. High Horse, Manic, and Death Roll step away from those choruses and you see most often those are the highlights for people. Just an interesting point in my eyes
Wow, you can't even pick one spiritbox song and call it generic, from their first ep to now, not even a generic, bad song.all bangers, But ever since wage war released pressure they've been on a downward spiral. Too much mainstream, too much generic.
People are calling generic but honestly so many bands are experimenting lately, it's less often you find an album like this one. I really like this more than the past one
At a certain point, you have to know that these guys write music that has a pretty predictable structure and take it for what it’s worth. That’s their style and they are damn consistent about it. So expecting something else is disingenuous imo. Respect your opinion though. Fun, solid metalcore in my opinion. Can’t wait to see them live.
As a new viewer I appreciate you commentary on the album...Gets me to see a different perspective. I kept my expectations in check for this album and went in expecting something similar to Pressure and I feel personally I was pleasantly surprised. After 3 listens through I would easily give this album at least a 9 in my opinion.
Blueprints and Deadweight are 2 of my favorites, but I’m so glad they took what they learned from Pressure and made the “wage war” sound instead of just being great modern metalcore
I think I heard the same riff about 6 times when listening to this album (like you basically said). But damn their breakdowns are cool! Maniac (the song) will be on my playlist for a while I think. :)
agree, They have had the same sound since blueprints, don't really get these people saying they wish they were heavy again. The guy who does cleans is my favorite part of this band.
I don't understand this guy. He enjoys the whole album, he smiles, he says the breakdowns are great and then he says he doesn't like it HAHAHA The inconsistent guy!
I’m sad you didn’t like this album more. To me it’s done a great job of keeping a theme all the way through while expressing some very painful experiences in new and clever ways.
Loved the album, some songs felt kinda similar (way more than necessary) to their previous work but there's a few highlights like Death Roll and Manic. Overall it was a really great experience!
Honestly nice to get others opinions on the music, personally loved the whole album from start to finish. Gonna be on repeat for the next few weeks. Honestly, Manic is the track that I least liked..but still liked it. TBH, not really hated anything Wage War have released over the years.
This album makes me sad, cause this band had the components to be amazing. Briton has phenomenal harsh vocals. Cody’s voice is beautiful. The drums are punchy, and the guitars are beefy. But most of what they compose is straight out of a formula, one that I don’t think they’ve done better since Blueprints
I think you have a very valid point. They used to be so cutting edge at the time of Blueprints and them being fresh really helped them. But them putting out the exact same record four times is kinda old. And don't get me wrong, I love every single song they've put out. There's not one miss. But when it all sounds so similar all the time for 5 or so years it gets kinda repetitive. I feel like they'll really start to fall off if they don't bring something new and great and innovative with their next record. *Don't get this mixed up cause Wage War is literally like Top 3 bands of all time for me and I've been a fan since literally the day Blueprints came out and I saw them on Warped in 16 so there is absolutely no hate in this comment*
I got to say that this album got me on curve, I was not that excited for this album but what a nice surprise was to listen to it without expectations, for sure a very solid modern metalcore album and a solid way to keep Wage War very relevant and still amazing in the actual scene!
"Breakdown city" throughout this entire record, and I've said it before, but as predictable as their song structure is in songs this entire record is a step up from "Pressure". Plus, "Death Roll" in my opinion is their heaviest track to date. Awesome job WW!!!
i actually wasnt expecting anything from wage war since pressure but they surprised me A LOT in this album theres some really solid tracks but i agree with Hard Core, i feel like ive heard those songs hundred times (when i first heard the main riff in Death Roll i thought it was a fucking Slaughter to Prevail song really sick song) also we have to remember that this is the type of music Wage War aim for, kinda generic and moshy they've been this way since Blueprints (that generic metalcore formula only worked for them at Blueprints and Deadweight cause basically at that time Metalcore was kinda evolving into Prog)
Wage war seems to kinda RIP off many bands. In my opinion. I know bands do similar things such as riffs and songs themselves but wage war seems to literally RIP off riffs and songs. My opinion tho
Just listened to Dying Wish's debut album which is FIRE!!! No skips, no filler- all bangers!! Absolutely fire album. About to start Wage Wars album now, but checked this out first to hear a teaser of the album and see what you thought about the album!
Holy shit that riff in Relapse is reminding of how memeable the riff in Low was. Don’t know if its me but I can’t get over how Tom Searle and Josh Middleton it is (Also i know its super generic but the bit right at the end of Death Roll reminds me of Ordinary Extinction)
I was very much surprised by this album and genuinely liked it through and through. Listened to it about 3-4 times yesterday. After Pressure, I genuinely thought I wasn't going to like another Wage War album again but they proved me wrong thankfully!
I fully understand that there are people who like the heavier songs rather than melodic and lyrical rock songs even if there are heavy metal guitar riffs and breakdowns within them. But I also believe that it adds a level of comfortability for people who aren’t as experienced in a rock genre. It’s not that bands are getting softer it’s just that bands are trying to appeal to a much bigger Audience like they should. Look I live in Chicago and I haven’t met a single person who listens to this kind of music. It’s a dying genre atleast in my eyes so if a major change like melody needs to be introduced then why not. I think this album was a huge fucking success through and through. I’ve personally experienced this album seem somewhat of substance to people who Mainly listens to rap or edm
To me it’s a step up from Pressure, but still not creative enough writing for my taste. Death Roll, If tomorrow never comes, and Relapse are big highlights for me
I've had this album on repeat and not one song gets skipped. Wage war are masters at what they do. Every song brings out a stink face and a chorus you can belt out. If I was to build the perfect band, it wouldn't be far from wage war
So my favorite tracks are Godspeed and If tomorrow never comes, but I love the album on a whole. Oddly enough when I heard Death Roll it didn't even phase me, but reading everyone's comments and giving it more thought on second it's growing on me a little bit. Which brings me to this: love this little community and channel, I don't have metal friends really and don't get to get vairing thoughts/opinions on stuff like this so it's a lot of fun for me. Take care everyone! Rock on
It's pressure 2.0 but way better imo. It still has the radio rock influences but their also not holding back on the screams and breakdowns. Deadweight is still their best album but this is up there.
I love your honesty, man! A lot of these review channels are a little more apprehensive to give their unapologetic opinions and to see you do it, props brother! 🤘
Agreed. Too many reactions channels just pretend to like everything so they can get as many followers from different fanbases as possible. So annoying. This channel and metalbirb are among the few that give honest and sincere opinions
I’m honestly super late to the party but I discovered this album today and had to know what you thought about it. I agree this is generic metalcore and not ground breaking by any means, but I genuinely jammed it all day because it’s still high quality imo :) If tomorrow never comes hits that sweet spot of nostalgia damn
i love how two of the best albums this year in my opinion are This place Will Beckme Your Tomb and Manic. he didn't really like either haha. to each their own i guess 🤷♂️
This is a step in the right direction compared to Pressure, but I think they needa start thinking more outside the box because their formula can only be fresh for so long
Honestly, what we need is another album like Blueprints or Deadweight, mostly Blueprints because it’s the BEST album from Wage War (in my opinion), this was a pretty good album, but nothing as good like Deadweight or Blueprints
I feel they would improve a lot if the unclean vocalist had more range with gutterals and such, and less verse chorus structure. Like 4 choruses in a song is too much, only 2 is really needed. Like their song Alive only had one clean vocal section and it was perfect.
based on a lot of these comments it seems like if you werent a long time fan of this band this album is more likeable- def feels that way for me because i love it and this is my first introduction to the band
Wage War is going through the stage of a lot of metal bands rn. They're going for some commercial success and are trying to grow their fanbase it looks like. I think it's a good album, but I think unless they go full butt rock, this is will probably be the poppiest album they put out. Beartooth and A Day To Remember are doing it as well. Plus I think I'd prefer they go for more catchy hooks ever so often since hooks are definitely what get you more radio play these days. Just my opinion. It's a good album.
My favorite songs are songs that take you for journeys throughout with what happens musically, so I gravitate toward bands like ABR, Periphery, Currents... but hey my music knowledge isnt all that expansive so throw me bands that make each song a journey!
The worst thing about Death Roll is it single handedly proves that WW are still super capable of writing top tier metalcore. Yes it’s heavier, but High horse is also heavy but isn’t anywhere near as good (i still enjoy it, it’s catchy af but in terms of writing, Death Roll is levels above) I also thought Manic was a very good song tbf, is fresh and stands out a lot especially vocally, also that groove at the end is so much like Loathe - New faces in the dark, just can’t not love it
Here’s the thing about this album: it’s been done. Hear me out though, please. You were right about feeling like you’ve heard some of the songs before even if you hadn’t. That’s because they have fine tuned that particular style of metalcore. It’s different than the example I’m abo to use, but it reminds me of the way within the ruins sounds exactly the same every album. Like I swore they were reusing the same riffs. Now I know WW aren’t, but that’s the feel. With that being said, it’s still one of the best albums I’ve ever heard bc of how talented they are. I wish they did a little more funky stuff like manic the song. More new metal style of metal core. It’s still a 92/100 tho. Incredible. Took a big turn from the approach of pressure and I find that weird. I expected this one to be trash even tho pressure was phenomenal for a mainstream approach. I just figured they’d keep slipping down that slope but they didn’t. They went heavier. I find that awesome. I can pick a quistad riff out of a bag of a thousand riffs when it comes to his signature style. Love them though, they’re killing it. And I can’t wait to see them live for the third time and hear them crush this album.
I think my biggest issues with Wage Wars latest albums are just how much "filler" is present. IMO they rely too much on the breakdown to carry the song and make it memorable which leads to quite a large amount (although not all) of the main riffs and hooks ending up quite samey. I'm not trashing on them, it obviously works for a large amount of people or they wouldn't be as popular as they are. But for me, if the breakdown doesn't end up a certified banger, the song gets lost in a sea of triplet chugs and nasally hooks. I wouldn't say they have many, if any, bad songs but they've got a lot of generic songs. It might just be nostalgia but when I go back to their first two albums, they feel so much more impactful and I can almost instantly identify the song when shuffled or on a playlist with hundreds of artists. Compared that with Pressure and almost 3 years later, I still struggle to distinguish any track other than Low.
Doubted about this album since teeth....and It just melted my mind Guys if you see this comment...just know that you have blown me away in a way I never thought possible..... Stongest continder for AOTY for 2021 Production.... give it to drew fulk
You pretty much summed up my opinion of the album. Like, Wage War makes some very solid tracks, but like you said....they all kinda sound the same. I get that bands have their own sound, but when I heard Teeth after Relapse, I would of believed that it was just another part of Relapse. The mainstream elements is also a factor too. Normally I'm totally okay with mainstream metalcore, but with Wage War, it just feels a bit too mainstream with a majority of the songs. Which is fine, it's not like bands HAVE to be unique, it's just what you prefer listening too. The guys are ridiculously talented, and I hope they keep making the music that they enjoy making. All that being said, I didn't hate the album, there were a few songs that I did really enjoy, but overall....aside from Manic, none of the songs really stood out to me. Death Roll was different, but wasn't for me personally (maybe a few more listens will change that). The softer songs were good, but sounded very...I don't wanna say 'standard', but that's the best word I can think of. 6/10 album for me.
I'm gonna have to give this a listen on my own time because the breakdowns are CRUSHING but I'm not a 2009 13 year old. The "I wanna be Rush" emo vocals may fully sour it for me.
The album is super meh to me. Death roll, high horse, relapse, and if tomorrow never comes were the standouts to be. I actually hate the title track. Idk what it is but it's just... Weird. Also the production on this album is strange. The guitars sound programmed, almost like a synth and not a guitar.
Death Roll is just pure After the Burial lmao
The pinch riff I see what you mean. But I don’t think it’s a copy cat.
@@cameronhill64 I've listened to the pinch riffs one after the other and I think it's like 2/3 same progression
After the Burial does it better though. ATB grooves like no other. I'd much rather listen to literally any ATB album than this Wage War album. It's not a good sign if the best track on the album sounds like a different band entirely.
@@jacksonislegend I'm not gonna argue against that
It even sounds like the same not haha. I don't think it was intentional, it was probably one of those things where you're so influenced, you don't even realize how much until you inadvertently create something similar to your influence haha.
Ever since I opened Wage War, I'm a huge fan.
I can agree that they sound pretty typical for metalcore but for me they've mastered it. I really like the blend of calm and banger songs every album.
Experiments are good, but some times you need some good old metalcore, that where Wage War perfectly fits in for me.
Perfectly said. Sometimes you gotta go back to the basics.
For me, this album is way better than pressure, but doesn't hit the same level as blueprints and deadweight.
Thought the exact same thing
definitely agree with that
agreed
Personally disagree, this probably my second favorite album, my first being Pressure
Yes but tbh it is almost impossible to top either of these first albums..they are basically perfect to me and I think I'd say the same thing if Manic had been their debut.
I'm really glad the breakdowns are grooves and not chugs like usual
Some of them are very Lee Malia
@@tangentdark Lee is such an underrated composer, his riffs have such an unique sound.
Solid record overall, but “Death Roll” just blows everything else out of the water IMO
That song is gonna be mosh pit city at concerts
Crazy. I thought that's the worst song just because the harmonics are so annoying, haha.
@@TheFiXNormal hm I mean everyone has their likes and dislikes
@@Ryl0o For sure, man. I don't mean to disrespect or anything. Just wild that I didn't expect many ppl to like the song and now i feel to be in the minority hehe.
@@TheFiXNormal all good I'm pretty sure I gave myself minor whiplash at 4 in the morning headbanging to death roll
I remember reading on Reddit or Twitter that Wage War sticks to the "metalcore formula" because they make it work and they're good with it and I believe this record proves that.
I really enjoyed it, though I agree some songs sound really similar but when you take it for what it is, it's a fun metalcore album.
perfectly put, there’s not a bad song on there and they all have enjoyable bits to them, it’s just their first 2 albums prove they’re capable of much more
The album is just fantastic "comfort food" metalcore. Not even attempting to reinvent the wheel, but a pleasant listen.
The first part aged so bad...
This album is a grower. 3-4 times spin, you'll find yourself singing along to the songs
💯💯 spot on
Same
Wage war really upped their breakdown game this album
Death roll and Manic caught me off guard when I first heard them, they’re both absolutely unreal songs
Death Roll is an experience. Looking past a lot of parts that are kinda default, there's some interesting diversity in this album.
The riff at the start of Death Roll literally sounds like After the Burial holy shit.
Honestly, I love the album. Not one song i do not like but i am more into the generic feel. One thing i will say though is that i generally do not listen to songs that only have screams. I usually like the poppy cleans and so on but Death roll i just cannot stop listening to. There is just something about that song that gets me going. Along with High Horse. But for me, well done Wage War. It is generic but i am into that very much like Memphis May Fire. Very generic and very predictable but... bands like wage war and MMF are the best at this type of generic sound in my opinion so i will gladly accept and play on repeat. I respect your opinion though. I think most of your viewers will and should accept that this is just not your thing so keep doing what you do. It is great content.
I definitely agree with your review. Death Roll was by far my favorite. And it’s not the fact it’s heavy, but it just feels so much more metal than the others. I’m personally not a fan of the forced-in poppy choruses with the simple cookie-cutter structures. Just looking at the lengths of the songs tells you about all you need to know, unfortunately.
Yeah, the lengths of the songs I was so surprised about. They are pretty much all 2 minute to early 3 minute songs. I wanted them longer.
Man I'm honestly surprised you called this album bland haha I found every song to be different and original and honestly has grabbed me as there best album because of how every song is different
Same
I got goosebumps with that opening in Death Roll. imo it's a smart album, recollects all they have done and I'm loving it
This surprised me! I was hyped for it after Circle the Drain but it blew my expectations out of the water. The title track is just amazing
Pleasantly suprised by this album. Every song is good, like this is not a half good/half bad like Pressure was to me. Relapse, Death Roll, Godspeed and True Colors are bangers, and even the softer are good. They used to be on of my favourite band 5 years ago and they are clearly climbing back up
Yo bro you listen to Dying Wishs debut album that dropped today? If not you gotta and let me know what you think about it. I love it! It's a banger! Every single song is so good, theres NO fillers no skips.
Watching this first then I'm about to listen to this album, I've heard like 3 songs earlier plus 2 singles. But now about to fully listen through
@@forevermarked5826 Try the new Frontierer album
@@forevermarked5826 i heard a couple but i really did not liked them so i didn't diged dipper but if you recommend it, i'm giving it another chance
I’ve never been a Wage War fan (I’ve enjoyed a few songs here and there) but this album is definitely gonna push me into major fan territory.
I personally like the album very much. Why? I think the band just continued to develop the last album "Pressure", although I think this album is even harder than Pressure. The album has really cool neck breakers Death Roll, High Horse and also very good metal ballads like Slow Burn and Never Say Goodbye, which still have good break downs. But honestly, what do you expect from Wage War? Great breakdowns, beautiful melodies and songs that jump and pop in your face. And that's exactly what this album has. We clearly have a further development of the band from the last album, which I personally found very awesome. What also fascinates me about this band is that the two singers complement each other perfectly and just do a great job. You can still find comparable cool things at Bury Tomorrow. I would therefore like to hold up the flag for this album and just tell you that the album is great fun and that you can access it without hesitation. Greetings from Germany.
Grüße aus Deutschland zurück lol. Werde diese Album heut noch probieren
Absolute breakdown-fiesta, diggin' this one much better than Pressure.
Was actually pleasantly surprised by this album. Had it on repeat all day. Don't understand how people can rave about spiritbox and then call this bland. Maybe I'm just crazy.
I agree. Spiritbox is amazing but other than Yellowjacket I don’t find myself repeating it at all fr but this album from wage war is so damn good and I’ve had it on repeat
I also feel that Wage has been in the game longer, in terms of what people deem as the flagships of metalcore. By no means am i undermining the success of either band. Though it is Spiritbox’s first album, one that got a lot coverage and a lot of people like. Doesn’t happen often. I feel Manic is not as bland metalcore as some are saying. You can see where they want to diverge in terms of production and even some song writing.
I don’t feel like it was quite enough to impress people. Wage has done most of this before, and I feel like that’s why people are deeming it “bland.” My literal biggest criticism on the entire album is just the choruses. Not that they’re objectively badly written, but they cookie-cutter them so much. High Horse, Manic, and Death Roll step away from those choruses and you see most often those are the highlights for people. Just an interesting point in my eyes
@@calebboik909 I feel like relapse could fall under the others to to me that’s the one song Cody does perfectly with his cleans
@@noahharper8943 Yeah, I agree.
Relapse for sure among those others
Wow, you can't even pick one spiritbox song and call it generic, from their first ep to now, not even a generic, bad song.all bangers, But ever since wage war released pressure they've been on a downward spiral. Too much mainstream, too much generic.
Hears the first two: Meh i've heard these already.
Hard Core: *Hears Manic* ~surprise pikachu face
This album may be generic but I really enjoyed this album and Death Roll is an absolute banger
People are calling generic but honestly so many bands are experimenting lately, it's less often you find an album like this one. I really like this more than the past one
At a certain point, you have to know that these guys write music that has a pretty predictable structure and take it for what it’s worth. That’s their style and they are damn consistent about it. So expecting something else is disingenuous imo. Respect your opinion though.
Fun, solid metalcore in my opinion. Can’t wait to see them live.
As a new viewer I appreciate you commentary on the album...Gets me to see a different perspective. I kept my expectations in check for this album and went in expecting something similar to Pressure and I feel personally I was pleasantly surprised. After 3 listens through I would easily give this album at least a 9 in my opinion.
Death Roll’s first breakdown is easily the nastiest, most hectic breakdown and I think it could be my favorite breakdown I’ve heard in a while
Blueprints and Deadweight are 2 of my favorites, but I’m so glad they took what they learned from Pressure and made the “wage war” sound instead of just being great modern metalcore
Not the AOTY but a good album ! High Horse, Manic and circle the drain are my favorite 🔥
Bro but Death Roll Tho Too
@@destinwinders6761 yes it’s true 👌
I think I heard the same riff about 6 times when listening to this album (like you basically said). But damn their breakdowns are cool! Maniac (the song) will be on my playlist for a while I think. :)
they do generic stupid metalcore really well, if you go in looking for anything more than that you’re gonna be dissapointed. i liked it
agree, They have had the same sound since blueprints, don't really get these people saying they wish they were heavy again. The guy who does cleans is my favorite part of this band.
I don't understand this guy. He enjoys the whole album, he smiles, he says the breakdowns are great and then he says he doesn't like it HAHAHA
The inconsistent guy!
Once again the cleans/generic choruses bring this band down but on the other hand they really stepped up some of the breakdowns in terms of creativity
personally, i absolutely fucking LOVE this album. i respect your opinion on it, but this is honestly one of my top five albums of last year.
I’m sad you didn’t like this album more. To me it’s done a great job of keeping a theme all the way through while expressing some very painful experiences in new and clever ways.
Loved the album, some songs felt kinda similar (way more than necessary) to their previous work but there's a few highlights like Death Roll and Manic. Overall it was a really great experience!
Honestly nice to get others opinions on the music, personally loved the whole album from start to finish. Gonna be on repeat for the next few weeks. Honestly, Manic is the track that I least liked..but still liked it. TBH, not really hated anything Wage War have released over the years.
This album makes me sad, cause this band had the components to be amazing. Briton has phenomenal harsh vocals. Cody’s voice is beautiful. The drums are punchy, and the guitars are beefy. But most of what they compose is straight out of a formula, one that I don’t think they’ve done better since Blueprints
I think you have a very valid point. They used to be so cutting edge at the time of Blueprints and them being fresh really helped them. But them putting out the exact same record four times is kinda old. And don't get me wrong, I love every single song they've put out. There's not one miss. But when it all sounds so similar all the time for 5 or so years it gets kinda repetitive. I feel like they'll really start to fall off if they don't bring something new and great and innovative with their next record. *Don't get this mixed up cause Wage War is literally like Top 3 bands of all time for me and I've been a fan since literally the day Blueprints came out and I saw them on Warped in 16 so there is absolutely no hate in this comment*
I got to say that this album got me on curve, I was not that excited for this album but what a nice surprise was to listen to it without expectations, for sure a very solid modern metalcore album and a solid way to keep Wage War very relevant and still amazing in the actual scene!
Actually I really like this album more than their past records. I love all the choruses, and they still know how to be heavy
"Breakdown city" throughout this entire record, and I've said it before, but as predictable as their song structure is in songs this entire record is a step up from "Pressure". Plus, "Death Roll" in my opinion is their heaviest track to date. Awesome job WW!!!
i actually wasnt expecting anything from wage war since pressure but they surprised me A LOT in this album theres some really solid tracks but i agree with Hard Core, i feel like ive heard those songs hundred times (when i first heard the main riff in Death Roll i thought it was a fucking Slaughter to Prevail song really sick song)
also we have to remember that this is the type of music Wage War aim for, kinda generic and moshy they've been this way since Blueprints (that generic metalcore formula only worked for them at Blueprints and Deadweight cause basically at that time Metalcore was kinda evolving into Prog)
Wage war seems to kinda RIP off many bands. In my opinion. I know bands do similar things such as riffs and songs themselves but wage war seems to literally RIP off riffs and songs. My opinion tho
@@forevermarked5826 i know what you mean but i dont think they do that on purpose man 💀
Dying Wish new album is an absolute MUST for being broken by breakdowns
It’s some of the best gymcore and I’m here for it. 👌🏻
If tommorow never comes is so underated thats a sick ass song
Yet here i am, listening to it every day 😄
You really gotta go through this again man.
Death Roll and If Tomorrow Never comes are probably my two favorite. Thought this was a pretty damn solid album.
Just listened to Dying Wish's debut album which is FIRE!!! No skips, no filler- all bangers!! Absolutely fire album. About to start Wage Wars album now, but checked this out first to hear a teaser of the album and see what you thought about the album!
Fully respect your opinion man. I enjoyed this album personally but I see where you’re coming from.
Death Roll is just the gift that keeps on giving. Definitely top favorite of the album.
Holy shit that riff in Relapse is reminding of how memeable the riff in Low was. Don’t know if its me but I can’t get over how Tom Searle and Josh Middleton it is
(Also i know its super generic but the bit right at the end of Death Roll reminds me of Ordinary Extinction)
Death Roll is nuts and out of no where so good! Great album as well!
Manic and death roll had me full stank face and I love it
I was very much surprised by this album and genuinely liked it through and through. Listened to it about 3-4 times yesterday. After Pressure, I genuinely thought I wasn't going to like another Wage War album again but they proved me wrong thankfully!
That breakdown in relapse reminds me of the alarm that goes of in the imperial ships in Star Wars if that makes sense haha
I fully understand that there are people who like the heavier songs rather than melodic and lyrical rock songs even if there are heavy metal guitar riffs and breakdowns within them. But I also believe that it adds a level of comfortability for people who aren’t as experienced in a rock genre. It’s not that bands are getting softer it’s just that bands are trying to appeal to a much bigger Audience like they should. Look I live in Chicago and I haven’t met a single person who listens to this kind of music. It’s a dying genre atleast in my eyes so if a major change like melody needs to be introduced then why not. I think this album was a huge fucking success through and through. I’ve personally experienced this album seem somewhat of substance to people who Mainly listens to rap or edm
To me it’s a step up from Pressure, but still not creative enough writing for my taste. Death Roll, If tomorrow never comes, and Relapse are big highlights for me
“Never said goodbye” and “True Colors” tracks reminds me of All that Remains older music, but I love Wage War they play some great workout music
I've had this album on repeat and not one song gets skipped. Wage war are masters at what they do. Every song brings out a stink face and a chorus you can belt out. If I was to build the perfect band, it wouldn't be far from wage war
That fade out on If Tomorrow Never Comes reminded me a lot of Spiritbox's Constance
Death Roll is just gojira, trivium, and classic wage mixed into one beast
So my favorite tracks are Godspeed and If tomorrow never comes, but I love the album on a whole. Oddly enough when I heard Death Roll it didn't even phase me, but reading everyone's comments and giving it more thought on second it's growing on me a little bit.
Which brings me to this: love this little community and channel, I don't have metal friends really and don't get to get vairing thoughts/opinions on stuff like this so it's a lot of fun for me.
Take care everyone! Rock on
It's like they smoked some of what Darko was having, but didn't inhale.
I feel like they brought the good aspects of pressure and kinda mixed it with deadweight. Imo
It's pressure 2.0 but way better imo. It still has the radio rock influences but their also not holding back on the screams and breakdowns.
Deadweight is still their best album but this is up there.
I love that you straight up fucking died at 4:13
I hope for their next album, they go back to a Blueprints/Deadweight type of album.
I love your honesty, man! A lot of these review channels are a little more apprehensive to give their unapologetic opinions and to see you do it, props brother! 🤘
Agreed. Too many reactions channels just pretend to like everything so they can get as many followers from different fanbases as possible. So annoying. This channel and metalbirb are among the few that give honest and sincere opinions
I’m honestly super late to the party but I discovered this album today and had to know what you thought about it. I agree this is generic metalcore and not ground breaking by any means, but I genuinely jammed it all day because it’s still high quality imo :) If tomorrow never comes hits that sweet spot of nostalgia damn
i love how two of the best albums this year in my opinion are This place Will Beckme Your Tomb and Manic. he didn't really like either haha. to each their own i guess 🤷♂️
This is a step in the right direction compared to Pressure, but I think they needa start thinking more outside the box because their formula can only be fresh for so long
Loved this album 9/10 imo not a single bad song
I absolutely love this album and its literally aoty for me, been on repeat since its release!!
Btw, Matty Mullins wrote True Colors with Cody.
Can't wait to listen to this soon!
I swear if Code Orange - Swallowing the rabbit whole and ATB - Behold the crown had a baby it would be Death roll.. i love it..
ladies and gentlemen, i present...buttcore
Honestly, what we need is another album like Blueprints or Deadweight, mostly Blueprints because it’s the BEST album from Wage War (in my opinion), this was a pretty good album, but nothing as good like Deadweight or Blueprints
I feel they would improve a lot if the unclean vocalist had more range with gutterals and such, and less verse chorus structure. Like 4 choruses in a song is too much, only 2 is really needed. Like their song Alive only had one clean vocal section and it was perfect.
based on a lot of these comments it seems like if you werent a long time fan of this band this album is more likeable- def feels that way for me because i love it and this is my first introduction to the band
This album really surprised me with some really good tracks! Better than the singles in my opinion except for High Horse
Wage War is going through the stage of a lot of metal bands rn. They're going for some commercial success and are trying to grow their fanbase it looks like. I think it's a good album, but I think unless they go full butt rock, this is will probably be the poppiest album they put out. Beartooth and A Day To Remember are doing it as well. Plus I think I'd prefer they go for more catchy hooks ever so often since hooks are definitely what get you more radio play these days. Just my opinion. It's a good album.
I actually really dug this album,it is a huge improvement from pressure (even though I’m one of the few people that like pressure).
My favorite songs are songs that take you for journeys throughout with what happens musically, so I gravitate toward bands like ABR, Periphery, Currents... but hey my music knowledge isnt all that expansive so throw me bands that make each song a journey!
Its funny to me, because after listening to all the wage war albums, i think this is my favorite album but thats just me.
Would love to see him react to Humanity's last breath
Probably not his type of music I guess
I find them boring
They're awesome
The worst thing about Death Roll is it single handedly proves that WW are still super capable of writing top tier metalcore. Yes it’s heavier, but High horse is also heavy but isn’t anywhere near as good (i still enjoy it, it’s catchy af but in terms of writing, Death Roll is levels above) I also thought Manic was a very good song tbf, is fresh and stands out a lot especially vocally, also that groove at the end is so much like Loathe - New faces in the dark, just can’t not love it
Here’s the thing about this album: it’s been done. Hear me out though, please. You were right about feeling like you’ve heard some of the songs before even if you hadn’t. That’s because they have fine tuned that particular style of metalcore. It’s different than the example I’m abo to use, but it reminds me of the way within the ruins sounds exactly the same every album. Like I swore they were reusing the same riffs. Now I know WW aren’t, but that’s the feel. With that being said, it’s still one of the best albums I’ve ever heard bc of how talented they are. I wish they did a little more funky stuff like manic the song. More new metal style of metal core. It’s still a 92/100 tho. Incredible. Took a big turn from the approach of pressure and I find that weird. I expected this one to be trash even tho pressure was phenomenal for a mainstream approach. I just figured they’d keep slipping down that slope but they didn’t. They went heavier. I find that awesome. I can pick a quistad riff out of a bag of a thousand riffs when it comes to his signature style. Love them though, they’re killing it. And I can’t wait to see them live for the third time and hear them crush this album.
I've always been a bit meh towards Wage War but after watching this I'm absolutely gonna be blasting this album shortly
I think my biggest issues with Wage Wars latest albums are just how much "filler" is present. IMO they rely too much on the breakdown to carry the song and make it memorable which leads to quite a large amount (although not all) of the main riffs and hooks ending up quite samey.
I'm not trashing on them, it obviously works for a large amount of people or they wouldn't be as popular as they are. But for me, if the breakdown doesn't end up a certified banger, the song gets lost in a sea of triplet chugs and nasally hooks.
I wouldn't say they have many, if any, bad songs but they've got a lot of generic songs. It might just be nostalgia but when I go back to their first two albums, they feel so much more impactful and I can almost instantly identify the song when shuffled or on a playlist with hundreds of artists.
Compared that with Pressure and almost 3 years later, I still struggle to distinguish any track other than Low.
Doubted about this album since teeth....and It just melted my mind
Guys if you see this comment...just know that you have blown me away in a way I never thought possible.....
Stongest continder for AOTY for 2021
Production.... give it to drew fulk
You pretty much summed up my opinion of the album. Like, Wage War makes some very solid tracks, but like you said....they all kinda sound the same. I get that bands have their own sound, but when I heard Teeth after Relapse, I would of believed that it was just another part of Relapse. The mainstream elements is also a factor too. Normally I'm totally okay with mainstream metalcore, but with Wage War, it just feels a bit too mainstream with a majority of the songs. Which is fine, it's not like bands HAVE to be unique, it's just what you prefer listening too. The guys are ridiculously talented, and I hope they keep making the music that they enjoy making.
All that being said, I didn't hate the album, there were a few songs that I did really enjoy, but overall....aside from Manic, none of the songs really stood out to me. Death Roll was different, but wasn't for me personally (maybe a few more listens will change that). The softer songs were good, but sounded very...I don't wanna say 'standard', but that's the best word I can think of. 6/10 album for me.
I'm gonna have to give this a listen on my own time because the breakdowns are CRUSHING but I'm not a 2009 13 year old. The "I wanna be Rush" emo vocals may fully sour it for me.
Death roll sounds identical to behold the crown
We Butter The Bread With Butter - Das Album!
I feel like if they went more experimental and followed manic and dead roll in an album it would be huge
god i loved this album never said goodbye was the only song i was meh about but i didnt hate it!! 8.5/10
I really like Relapse, Manic, Death Roll and the singles. The rest I'm very meh about.
The album is super meh to me. Death roll, high horse, relapse, and if tomorrow never comes were the standouts to be. I actually hate the title track. Idk what it is but it's just... Weird. Also the production on this album is strange. The guitars sound programmed, almost like a synth and not a guitar.
For me, (Death Roll-Manic-High horse) is listenable. the rest of the album is just similar music back and forth
It's absolutely mental you didn't like that.