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En route to her judgment before the royal court, the Queen (Ana Torrent) stops to reprimand the Boleyn girls for their deceit and ambition.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
Adapted from author Philippa Gregory's historical novel of the same name, director Justin Chadwick's atmospheric period drama follows the fierce competition between sisters Mary (Scarlett Johansson) and Anne Boleyn (Natalie Portman) to win the affections of Tudor king Henry VIII (Eric Bana). Anne and Mary Boleyn are under pressure from their father and uncle to help maintain the family's rich legacy and ensure their further prosperity by winning the affections of none other than the king of England (Eric Bana). But life in the royal court is far different than it was in the countryside where these two sisters were raised, and before long their bid to earn the love of the king has transformed two once-happy sisters into bitter rivals. At first, it appears that Mary has triumphed in winning the king's favor by becoming his mistress and bearing him an illegitimate child. Despite her early success, however, Mary has underestimated just how clever and cunning her sibling can truly be. Not only does the relentless Anne manage to edge aside her sister in the eyes of King Henry, but she also succeeds in averting his gaze from his wife, Queen Catherine of Aragon, as well. Mary is driven by genuine affection for King Henry, while her sister Anne has only kept up the charade in a desperate bid to become the queen of England. Now, the growing chasm between two sisters is mirrored on a larger scale as England becomes divided more than ever before. As the consequences of their actions threaten to alter the course of an entire nation, these two sisters will ultimately discover that the only place they will find true strength and loyalty is in family, and that no matter what the consequences they will forever be bound by blood.
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Cast: Natalie Portman, Scarlett Johansson, Ana Torrent
Director: Justin Chadwick
Producers: Scott Rudin, David M. Thompson, Jane Robertson, Alison Owen, Faye Ward, Mark Cooper
Screenwriters: Peter Morgan, Philippa Gregory
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Catherine deserved a son, and Henry did not deserve Catherine
Iwan Egerström I’m related to Catherine of Aragon. She had a son but he died at one month old :( X
Lia Plunkett no you’re not lol and even if you were who cares?
Don’t Worry About it
1) I am
2) Who cares about ur opinion, so go away
Lia Plunkett no one seems to care about yours either
Don’t Worry About it Hitting me with them 2012 comebacks
I love the dignity of the Queen. One of the few things I liked about this movie.
na na naaa na na
I agree 10000%.
I agree. I think of the women in this movie, Queen Catherine was by far the greatest. Even when she was humiliated and banished and her husband stolen from her by the Boleyn's, she never once allowed her character to be stained. Walking past those who scorned her, she was still a proud and noble Queen. Of the two sisters, I think Mary was the better of the two. Yes she played her family's game and bedded the king, but she didn't allow power to corrupt her as Anne and her father and uncle did. She chose love over power, even though it meant casting aside the jewels and silks of her noble life and marrying a poor farmer. At least she and her children lived out their lives in peace and happiness while the rest of them died in disgrace. She was literally the ONLY one of all of them who got a happy ending. Anne wanted to be Queen and it destroyed her. Literally. Henry allowed lust and his desire for power to destroy him....EVEN when Mary gave him the son he so craved. The Uncle had 3 generations of his family damned after he died. The only ones who came out of it were Mary and Queen Catherine.
@@CeltycSparrow and Elizabeth, Ann's daughter. Her greatest triumph.
@@heathernikki5734 Indeed. Its truly ironic and sad.....Henry wished so desperately for a son, and destroyed his marriage, his kingdom and his faith to get a son, but even when he finally GOT the son he so craved, the child who would prove to be a worthy heir was NOT a son, but his daughter, Elizabeth.
They always made Catherine out to be ugly. She was actually said to be very beautiful, fair skin, and red hair.
The Spanish Princess portrays her accurately.
@Rowen Starchild No, she wasn't. And to the OP. So what? This isn't exactly an unflattering portrayal. She's one of the only good things about this movie.
Fair skin and red hair does not equal attractive.
She had just 5 years more than Henry, if she was old, so was him.
Pretty sure I read in David starkeys book she had blonde hair
I really dislike how Anne is portrayed in this movie, but I keep watching this clip because Catherine just exudes such poise and badassery
Her attitude towards Katherine is pretty spot-on.
This was probably accurate of Anne. She was conniving and spiteful. This is a woman who wanted Catherine's daughter Mary, executed...
@@Deborahtunes some historical writer like Philippa Gregory make Anne into the ambitious ruthless woman who would anything to reach her goals.( I don't read Philippa Gregory books ) but I don't think that Anne was ambitious I think that her family wanted the king favor they use their daughters to gained it
she was like this towards Kat though.
I think Anne was cunning but in the face of the Queen she would have acted like this if they indeed meet face to face - since Catherine herself is also a learned and formidable woman like her mother Isabella....
Queen Catherine was a Monarch with great dignity and authority. Long live the true Queen, Catherine.
I agree.her speech befitting a true queen.
Agreed.
Jacob Hanson: she wasn't monarch, just consort of monarch
Long live queen Catherine of Aragon
Yeah , and mature plus wisdom than her sister Juana !
"What upsets the king upsets me."What a little weasel
She didn't really say that
@@anastasiaisabella7354 oh really
@@allyluna8377 yes the real Anne Boleyn never say that .Philippa Gregory write her novel based on unfound rumors about Mary and Anne Boleyn
@@anastasiaisabella7354 i was being sarcastic
@@anastasiaisabella7354 but she did behave like that towards Katherine.
The actress who played Catherine wasn’t in the movie much, yet she stole each scene she had! Very captivating!
Exactly!
Hideous.
Yes she was a great actress!
Technically Catherine of Aragon did give the King a son...he just died shortly after his christening
Actually, he died when he was a month old.
agenttheater5 Wrong. I’m related to Catherine of Aragon and he died at 1 month old.
@@liarochelle5314 ?
He was of 52 days
colombia !! Yeah?
Say what you want, but this monologue is hard not to give a standing ovation to.
It so thoroughly portrays Catharine's strength, piety, and dignity.
She was; faithful, charitable, spirtual, intelligent, loving, the Infanta of Spain and the Queen of England, usurped by a power-hungry nobleman and his vein and ambitious niece.
"I am Catherine, Queen of England
Beloved of the people
And beloved of a King...
You have bewitched!"
What a line!
jobensky sarmiento That support and love from their citizens were passed down to her daughter Queen Mary. The boy king, Edward appointed his protestant cousin Lady Jane Grey to be his successor but people were rallying for the catholic Princess Mary who people strongly believed had more legitimate claim as she was royal through & through given she was the daughter of an infanta of Spain, Queen Catherine.
“Married for 24 years/ I’m a paragon of royalty/ My loyalty is to Vatican/ So if you try to dump me/ You won’t try that again.”
@@ezelfrancisco1349 six the musical lol
She will always be the true queen
@@jamesdadeer5345 YES
Anne: "What upsets the King upsets me."
Katherine: "Who do you think you're fooling? I know what you want."
+agenttheater5 It's what Anne's family wants not really Anne and her sister their family were greedy and selfish.
Tiffany Days
But Anne was ambitious. That in itself is fine, but not when it clouds your judgement of what the stakes are and what could result from it.
+agenttheater5 I understand completely
@@agenttheater5 in fairness no queen consort before her had been executed. She also wasn’t one of Henry’s later queens who could see how the earlier ones had been treated.
Queen Catherine was a real queen in all aspects, she was daughter of the catholic kings and infanta of the kingdom of Castilla and Aragon
She had more real claim to the Throne of Englan than Henry himself, because she was descendant of English royalty, while Henry was the son of the ursurper
@Omara Oliver Just copied from Wikipedia
She was descended, on her maternal side, from the House of Lancaster, an English royal house; her great-grandmother Catherine of Lancaster, after whom she was named, and her great-great-grandmother Philippa of Lancaster were both daughters of John of Gaunt and granddaughters of Edward III of England. Consequently, she was third cousin of her father-in-law, Henry VII of England,[11] and fourth cousin of her mother-in-law Elizabeth of York.
@Omara Oliver It's true, she had English ancestry. Trastámara dynasty had good relations with England.
@@vilwarin5635 Exactly. Felipa De Lancaster was the mother of 2 dynastic houses in Mediterranean: The Braganza and the Trastámara - where Isabella and Fernando were descendants... They had good relations with England.
As a curiosity, Catalina had the same ending as her sister Juana 'la loca' (I think she was not crazy). They both died locked between 4 walls ...
The only thing this movie has on the The Tudors series is historically accurate costumes
Not even that, they have a scene where the French hood matches each sister's dress when it was always black in the veil.
Unfortunately however both are historically inaccurate in almost every way. Big budget history movies / series tend to be.
And even then, the Tudor costumes look better and less constricting.
@@kiera6326 no, I think The Tudors Costumes are disgusting and very far from the reality (not accurate.
@@rebeccaisabella9721+ Really? I think (most) of the gowns are really pretty. Though they're not very accurate. I think the more historical, square-necked gowns combined with the headdresses and hoods are quite restrictive and unflattering. The style seems quite boring to me, but everyone has their own opinions.
K.O.A rocks the square dress style, though...
Catherine did everything right she was kind, loving, and obedient to the king. She tried to give him a son but instead she gave him a daughter it's better than having no heirs at all. She deserved better.
It is more tragic that technically she has given births to many sons but it is just that they didn’t survive for more than 1 year.
She ate that monologue up and left no crumbs.
The actress chosen to play Catherine de Aragon is lovely ❤️
@J. C. She lost her beauty after so many pregnancies and the stress of not bein able to have a boy
Yes, but historically incorrect. She was of a very fair complexion, had blue eyes and had a hair color that was between reddish blonde and auburn.
@@malegi29 exactly
malegi29 shes like Emma Stone I heard
She’s cool af.
You tell that bitch, Queen Catherine! I wasn't crazy about this movie either, but I like how Queen Catherine was portrayed. She was very strong and she stood up for herself and her rights.
Katiehale16173 years ago
I hate Catherine so much!
Your not the only one. I hate her too.
Anne Boleyn wasn't quite the bitch the way this movie and its novel portrayed her to be. It may be based off of historical events, but it is historical fiction and you should take the events of it with a grain of salt. For example, there is no evidence whatsoever that Anne ever slept or tried to sleep with her brother George. All credible Tudor historians discard that charge (along with all the others) against Anne Boleyn as being truth.
gazebo46 I love queen Catherine in this and I love Anne Boleyn in the Tudors. Both actors portrayed their characters perfectly.
Don’t believe all that crap put by Philippa Gregory’s book and movie.
Go watch The Tudors and Anne of the Thousand Days.
And “Anne of the Thousand Days” is even more accurate than The Tudors, showing that Anne was really the prey and avoided all the king avances instead of that of both Natalie showing up a home wrecker plotting with her relatives to marry the royal stalker. Read all his letters to her and that specific one in which he remembers that he’s the hunter and she’s the prey. Sent with a dead buck killed by him so that she would remember of the hunter while eating it.
The movie shows more characters like: her mother Elizabeth Howard and Henry Percy, the count whom with she betrothed, she loved and was loved back way before she met Henry. The movie shows how Henry separated the two by ordering cardinal Wolsey to annul their compromise.
I wouldn't trust The Tudors 100% either given that it combined both of Henry's sisters into one character to avoid confusion over names
I have always felt badly for Queen Katherine
me too 😕
I feel sorry for all of Henry's wives except Anne of Cleves. She made out like a bandit ;)
DenaInWyo Do you say this because she soon accepted Henry’s wish to divorce her and all the money and property that he gave her to keep her powerful Protestant brother quite and then avoid to provoke a destructive war with him?
The girl turned out to be the smartest and the one who survived all the others managing to deal with the bad temper tyrant. She’s a hero.
Annais Maia I feel she was unwilling and grudgingly to remain the throne (by fears) even Henry did want invailed the marriage ! The feeling of her just same as riding a tiger , so she could feel pleasure and blessed to divorced in peace with the “payments of the King”
Felt bad for Anne Boleyn too. She was just a puppet in the games of men. It was her dad and uncle who pushed her to become a mistress.
And it is not like she has the power to say No to the King pursuing her.
I believe that Henry was always jealous of Arthur. he was jealous that Arthur was the heir, he was their father's favourite, and finally that he had Katherine.
History remarks how everyone was blown away by Katherine's beauty when she came to England. Henry VII even wanted to marry her after the death of his son because of his lustful desires (plus the dowry). But Henry VIII was said to be in love with her, to have a school boy crush so to speak. He waited it out to marry her. I believe it was because he wanted to have the final thing or rather all the toys that his brother would never get to have, to further confirm to himself once and for all that he was always better than the sickly weak prince Arthur. He got Arthur's crown and his wife. He probably felt he deserved it all too.
fleurgi too bad though that when he was infatuated with Anne, Catherine was, according to diplomats, "as wide as she was tall". Henry was horny, and desperately wanted a son, and Anne was young and charismatic. I do agree though, Catherine WAS pretty though, considering she was from the house of Trastamara.
fleurgi just because he caught a disease doesn't make him weak...he was healthy to that point.
@@yamisoaegyeo She was also a descendant of Edward III through John of Gaunt. So she had some lancastrian blood in her veins.
Damn, this is awesome. Anna Torrent really nailed this role despite not being in the film that much. I wouldn't be too surprised if Catherine actually did say something like this to Anne in real life.
This scene you're watching right here actually did happen she had words with Anne just like this. Word for Word.
I hope Katherine did do something like that.
Katherine to Anne: "I did give Henry an heir. A boy, my own Henry. You're too young to remember him. He died, and the only child I've been able to hold in my arms has been my Mary. But don't pity me. Don't look me in the eye. And don't act the modest wench loyal to the king. Not until you know what it is to learn that the child you carried is dead. Not until you know how it is to hope for a child again and again only to learn that it died in your womb again and again. Not until you know what it is to be in fear for your position, to be in fear that your husband will hate you for being unable to give him a son, to be afraid. Not until you know what it is to hear that your husband has died and to fear that what you've been preparing for your whole life will be taken away and that you'll be sent home ashamed. Not until you know what it is to welcome each of his women to your court and to know it's to them that he goes at night while you wait for him and bear his children and praise his name. What, did you think that your sister was the first? Did you think that you will be the last? I learned to stop hoping that this one would be the last a long time ago."
agenttheater5 Did she really say that?
No, but it's what she would've wanted to say I bet. If not in real life, than in this scene. Her reign as Queen was longer than any of the other 5 wives, and she did put up with all his affairs for years. What she actually said to Henry right after this when she went into court was “Sir, I beseech you for all the loves that hath been between us, and for the love of God, let me have justice and right, take of me some pity and compassion, for I am a poor woman and a stranger born out of your dominion, I have here no assured friend, and much less indifferent counsel: I flee to you as to the head of justice within this realm. Alas! Sir, wherein have I offended you, or what occasion of displeasure have I designed against your will and pleasure? Intending (as I perceive) to put me from you, I take God and all the world to witness, that I have been to you a true and humble wife, ever conformable to your will and pleasure, that never said or did anything to the contrary thereof, being always well pleased and contented with all things wherein ye had any delight or dalliance, whether it were in little or much, I never grudged in word or countenance, or showed a visage or spark of discontentation. I loved all those whom ye loved only for your sake, whether I had cause or no; and whether they were my friends or my enemies. This twenty years I have been your true wife or more, and by me ye have had divers children, although it hath pleased God to call them out of this world, which hath been no default in me.
And when ye had me at the first, I take God to be my judge, I was a true maid without touch of man; and whether it be true or no, I put it to your conscience. If there be any just cause by the law that ye can allege against me, either of dishonesty or any other impediment to banish and put me from you, I am well content to depart, to my great shame and dishonor; and if there be none, then here I most lowly beseech you let me remain in my former estate, and received justice at your princely hand. The king your father was in the time of his reign of such estimation through the world for his excellent wisdom, that he was accounted and called of all men the second Solomon; and my father Ferdinand, King of Spain, who was esteemed to be one of the wittiest princes that reigned in Spain many years before, were both wise and excellent kings in wisdom and princely behavior. It is not therefore to be doubted, but that they were elected and gathered as wise counsellors about them as to their high discretions was thought meet. Also, as me seemeth there was in those days as wise, as well-learned men, and men of good judgement as be present in both realms, who thought then the marriage between you and me good and lawful Therefore is it a wonder tome what new inventions are now invented against me, that never intended but honesty. And cause me to stand to the order and judgment of this new court, wherein ye may do me much wrong, if ye intend any cruelty; for ye may condemn me for lack of sufficient answer, having no indifferent counsel, but such as be assigned me, with whose wisdom and learning I am not acquainted. Ye must consider that they cannot be indifferent counsellors for my part which be your subjects, and taken out of your own council before, wherein they be made privy, and dare not, for your displeasure, disobey your will and intent, being once made privy thereto. Therefore, I most humbly require you, in the way of charity, and for the love of God, who is the just judge, to spare the extremity of this new court, until I may be advertised what way and order my friends in Spain will advise me to take. And if ye will not extend to me so much indifferent favour, your pleasure then be fulfilled, and to God I commit my case!" @@freedomgirl1542
@Pomeranian Queen I enjoy writing
@@agenttheater5 Wow, good stuff. U got some talent there. Totally thought you were quoting.
Her putting up with Henry’s affairs is one of the reasons I can’t respect her. I feel sorry for her but I don’t respect her
Anna Torrent was by far the best actor in this film. Portman and Johansson cannot even compete.
agree
She was a very strong and powerful woman, just like her mother Queen Isabella of Spain.
Curiosity: Once, one of Catherine's ladies started talking ill of Anne Boleyn, and Catherine told her off saying:
"Pray for her, because the time would come when you shall pity and lament her case"
Wow... you know that a woman is noble at heart when she actually stop others talking ill about the woman who stole her husband.
My favorite scene Katherine is both regal and a warrior
Even though Catherine was originally from Spain, she was loved by the English people. Even when Anne became Queen, many still regarded Catherine as England’s true Queen.
I am from Spain and I feel very proud of Ana Torrent 's performance as Katherine of Aragón. I interviewed her a few months ago when she played Madame Bovary in one theatre of my city, Seville. She told she was surprised by the good impression of people because of this film.
Wow, she really is the Queen! Such poise and dignity.
And class and strength! She fought not just for herself, but for her daughter, too. Catherine was a warrior, a fighter, just like her mother, Queen Isabella of Castile.
Anna Torrent rocks in this clip.
best scene in the movie. i understand thats not saying much but...
How amazing. The dignity and courage of this beautiful woman is inspiring.
Gotta give props to Natalie Portmen for her portrayal of Anne Boleyn (the fictional character based on the historical figure). Her subtle nervous breathing at around 1:13 is brilliant.
honestly the best acting in the entire movie
Even though Catherine addresses both Mary and Anne, I love how it's made obvious she is directly chastising and shaming Anne. Anne deserved it, she has no humility. Mary was respectful towards Catherine recognizing her still as the queen, even though Henry already slept with her and she felt ashamed for humiliating Catherine. I wish I had Catherine's determination, bravery, strength, and self-respect. Watching her humble Anne down to the ground to where she had trouble breathing...ohhh that was a sincere pleasure to watch. 👏👏👏 Bravo Catherine, bravo! 😎👸👏👏❤❤
While the movie version of Anne is quite scandalous and disrespectful, please don’t think this is how Anne truly was! She quite honestly never wanted to marry Henry, she actually was set to marry someone else but then Henry began to try to court her. Anne herself left court but Henry ordered her to come back. She was an intelligent graceful and witty woman who was trapped by a bad man.
@@mattlibra3139 THAT AND MORE was truly how Anne Boleyn had behaved . There are many many historical records of it. I'm started to get sick of thos sugarcoating of Anne. If you love her so much own up to her with cons and pros dening the kind of person she was is not respecting her.
Say it with me people “Long live the queen, Queen Catherine of England!!!”
Why
I've always loved how Strong She was . Always spoke with wise words and just very independent
I love Ana Torrent's portrayal of Queen Catherine of Aragon.❤❤❤ She is my favourite character in this movie.
Ana Torrent is so brilliant an actress that unfortunately Nathalie Portman and Scarlet Johansson (who, I will admit, were not at their best) cannot compete, even though they have the entire film to prove themselves. Ana Torrent has been a class act since the age of seven, and I cannot recommend the films with her as a child (such as "El Espiritu de la Colmena" and "Cria de Cuervos") enough.
I really like Ana in this film, though her role was only some minutes.
Though this movie is historically inaccurate I loved how Catherine Of Aregon was portrayed so strongly. Where as the Tudors tv series portrayed her as feeble & intimidated by Anne. Yes Catherine was known to be kind but that show made her into a "push-over"
She was the TRUE Queen and that's a fact!! LOVED this scene and I Stan her. Long live Queen Catherine, the true Queen of England 🙏🙏🙏
Ana Torrent is awesome. So amazing that little Ana from Spirit of the Beehive grew up to play such a powerful role so perfectly. Powerful as a 6 year old craving understanding in her world and powerful as a 42 year old craving stability in hers. If youve never seen Spirit of the Beehive go see it now.
I love Catherine's speech ;)
Anne wasn’t an angel, but she definitely did not deserve execution.
Anne was innocent of the crimes she was accused of but yes she was no angel
@@helend7542 that’s bullshit. It’s proven that she was innocent, learn history before commenting lies and misinformation.
@@helend7542 Though most historians believes that she was innocent of ALL them. Henry wanted to get rid of her, and in order to do so without causing another divorce scandal he decided to execute her which was easier if she was accused of being a witch, an adulteress, a traitor, and an incestuous monster, and found guilty of being all of those things
i wish they realized not having a male heir was the biggest blessing, becuase of this for the first time in english history a female Elizabeth the first was able to be queen without getting married.
The queens dignity captivated me
If looks could kill! Gotta love Katherine. Such a strong woman.
Its hillarious to think so many women were fighting over the ugliest man of the universe.
It wasn't his looks that drew them: it was his power, money and influence. Shows how rarely that works out
When Henry was young he was described as quite handsome, however later in life he became fat and ugly.
Actually Henry was very handsome in his youth and was handsome roughly around with him cheating with Anne. He became the obese king we know today after his jousting accident during his marriage with Anne.
Catherine: I am Catherine, Queen of England
Me: whooooo 😍🕺
*randomly weaves arms in the air*
“Daughter of Queen Isabella and King Fernando”, Infanta of Spain and Queen Consort of England.
AN: I don’t hate Anne or her her sister Mary. I find them intriguing and I believe that they were powerful woman well ahead of their time
I’ve always loved Catherine such grace even such a time as this she was truly Henry’s equal
I just hate this movie, it doesn't follow the true historical story in any way. Mary Boleyn and Anne Boleyn weren't rivals, because King Henry VIII was already done with Mary Boleyn after a few years and when they were busy Anne was back in France being the lady-in-waiting of the Queen of France. When Anne Boleyn returned was the moment Henry was done with Mary and left her alone while she was pregnant of him. So Mary could't even be in this movie because she was with the rest of her family send away from court and married William Carey. Queen Catherine didn't maybe like the idea of Henry having Anne as mistress, but she never called her a 'whore' because when Catherine was even sent away from court and a few years later she was laying on her deathbed she even pitied Anne. The Reason why she pitied her because there was news that Henry's eyes were turning away from Anne.
We know that, it was based off a fictional book with tweaks to the story
Emile, I'm not sure that Catherine didn't call Anne a whore. All of England used to call her a whore as did the Imperial Ambassador to England and Catherine's staunch ally, Eustace Chapuys. She was also called the concubine and a witch.
Don’t believe all that crap put by Philippa Gregory’s book and movie.
Go watch The Tudors and Anne of the Thousand Days.
And “Anne of the Thousand Days” is even more accurate than The Tudors, showing that Anne was really the prey and avoided all the king avances instead of that of both Natalie showing up a home wrecker plotting with her relatives to marry the royal stalker. Read all his letters to her and that specific one in which he remembers that he’s the hunter and she’s the prey. Sent with a dead buck killed by him so that she would remember of the hunter while eating it.
The movie shows more characters like: her mother Elizabeth Howard and Henry Percy, the count whom with she betrothed, she loved and was loved back way before she met Henry. The movie shows how Henry separated the two by ordering cardinal Wolsey to annul their compromise.
Emiel Warnier But it’s a fictional book...
Also, Mary was the eldest Boleyn child.
Is it just me or am i in love with Catherine's accent?
It’s too bad Catherine didn’t inherit the Spanish throne instead of her crazy sister Joanna. She would have been a great queen like her mother.
Joanna wasn't really crazy, but she had a terrible husband who took the chance to make people believe that... And a father that preferred to see her daughter locked to be able to maintain his kingdom in peace
@@Micaerys l thought she had mental problems that went bad after the death for her kids?
@@lucindayumikane8567 I don't think so. All of their children became adults and monarchs of their own kingdoms (either for birthright or marriage), and only one of them, Isabella, died before her. Joanna had the reputation of mad because she was very passionate and impulsive, and even though she was very well learned, she wasn't at all prepared for the political manipulation that her parents and husband had going on. The latter was the one that started creating the rumour, since he treated her poorly, and when she reacted badly, he would take notes of each action and then talk about it as "Omg, this crazy Castilian took scissors and cut this maiden's heir FOR NO REASON" (when the reason was that Philip was cheating on Joanna with said maiden)
@@Micaerys Oh, l see. Thank you for the lesson 🥰
@@lucindayumikane8567 You're welcome, it's a pleasure. I learned about all of that just recently because one of my friends is a huuuge fan of Joanna as an historical figure, and I can understand why. She was really misunderstood 😢
If Katherine of Aragon so cruel, she can deposed Henry with help from Spain and Holy Roman Emperor (who was her nephew) and became queen regnant (female king). Katherine actually had stronger claim to the England throne than her own husband.
exactly , henry only was the second king of a bastard dynasty......meanwhile Katherine was descendant of Edward III by her mother through her great great grandmother Constance of Lancaster
Honestly that's what I was thinking, but Catherine didn't want to cause the King her dear husband and the country she so loved and that adored her anymore suffering
No, she didn't really. The right of conquest is how William the Conqueror, mind you the persons Edward III traces his legitimacy to in terms of actual historical kings, got the throne. The right of conquest trumps any blood right to the throne as what use is it to be some other guys descendant if you don't have an army to back it up. And still, if Catherine really did have a stronger claim do you really think Ferdinand and Isabella would have had them marry; an act that acknowledged the Tudors as legitimate rulers. And if the Tudors were so illegitimate why would Mary, Queen of Scots have based her claim to the English throne on the fact that she was a descendant of Henry VII, a Tudor, or why would a French King marry Mary Tudor, Henry VII's daughter, and Henry VIII's sister? Saying that Catherine had a better claim is just dumb because clearly if people thought she had a better claim people would have tried to put her or Charles V on the throne; people tried that with the pretenders during Henry VII's reign and later with the male descendants of James II/VII of England/Scotland.
Very very powerful clan behind Catherine so why did they let H8 get away with things? T.T
@@sliverscreencritic What Isabella? Was she italian ? No,she wasn,t.
It is Isabel! Isabel and Fernando.
Catherine was magnificent in this scene, she showed everyone that she is the true Queen.
They did her so dirty 😢
U can see the pain in her eyes
Yeah, good actress... And she leaded English armies to defend England against Scottish invaders during the Battle of Flodden... She was a badass queen regent when Henry VIII was fighting in France. If she would've been raised in a ghetto, I bet she would be the leader of a mafia or something. lol.
One of the most awesome scenes EVER!!! 👑 🏰 👸🏻 Catherine actually had a stronger claim to the British throne than Henry 8th, himself.
That is very true. Honestly if Catherine and her family wanted to they could have taken England from the Tudor family not from the claim to the throne, but also Catherine and her family were more politically and militarily connected then the Tudor family.
That was some speech she gave them.
How can this movie be out in 2008? I remember seeing this crying my heart out on a flight from heathrow to jfk my freshman year of college on spring break. My friends and I enjoyed our trip so much sophomore year we went on a international cruise followed by a week in Puerto Rico! Amazing times!
Catherine:I am Catherine,Queen of England.
Me:MY NAME’S CATHERINE OF ARAGON-
WAS MARRIED 24 YEARS IM A PARAGON OF ROYALTY
Look at how terrified Anne is at this moment 1:13
Queen Catherine always speaks with wisdom
The Queen held her own and by refusing to grant him the divorce, she made sure Henry had to leave the Catholic Church. All in all, she made sure her daughter Mary ruled the throne.
Ana Torrent has the most amazing face ever since she was a child - why she never became a huge star is odd.
Her finishing lines here beat "My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius" for me.
Wow she was a true queen !
Everytime Catherine says “no”, “not”, etc. I can only think of one thing...
“N-n-n-n-n-n-no way”
These two women are the Mothers of England’s toughest Queens and it shows.
Katherine's portrayal in this movie was pretty much the only thing I enjoyed about this movie.
Everybody praising and pitting Anne Boleyn in the comments without knowing how bigger queen Katherine of Aragón's accomplishments were way before Boleyn even existed. Had queen Katherine been able to bear an heir either with Arthur or Henry , history would have certainly been different today.
Catherine of Aragon was mistreated and given a raw deal. I hope Henry suffered for all that he did to her and his many victims.
Queen Catherine was a Monarch with great dignity and authority. Long live the true Queen, Catherine. Catherine was the true queen of England,the true wife of Henry and mother of the true heiress of throne
So basically Catherine of Aragon said :
*You wanna replace me ? Baby there's no no no no no no no way!!*
You must think that I'm Crazy. You wanna replace me, baby there's no no no no no no no way...
Great scene and hands down for finally casting a Spanish actress to play this role!
She looks nothing like Catherine of Aragon who was a blue-eyed redhead
Raymond Nolan Scott eh, who cares. She does the role very well.
@@fomalhauto and what about the blue eyes or her red hair????? What is the point to show that in Spain are blond, ginger blue eyes people? Off course, they are, a very few, but are, but the important thing here is the actress make her job well.
My name's Catherine of Aragon.
Was married twenty-four years.
I'm a paragon of royalty.
My loyalty is to the Vatican,
So if you try to dump me -
You won't try that again.
Queen's dignity makes her a true queen
She really said "No way"
Well, you know what they say about the victor writing history. When Mary died, her sister's faction wrote the history and slandered Mary. Granted, Mary was a failed monarch, but she wasn't the bloody monster that she was depicted to be. Elizabeth I and Henry VIII killed more people, yet, they were spared the epithet of "bloody."
Queen Elizabeth l 💋💋💋💪💪💪
Elizabeth has killed more people but she still killed less people per year than Mary has. Bloody was added mostly because her religious zeal didn’t help her case when burning Protestants. She has done wrong but it is still the majority the fault of Henry of why Mary became the way she is.
Lol Elizabeth and Henry ruled a lot longer than Mary.
I don’t think Mary deserves the epithet bloody but she doesn’t deserve her modern fan club either.
@@wengercleopatra2150 True, they ruled a lot longer than Mary, but in proportion to their many years on the throne, they still killed more people than Mary. Henry for instance is said to have killed 72,000 people!
I still get chills listening to Catherine of Aragon since she really was that Queen!!! I’ve always had mixed feelings on Anne Boleyn since she was also victimized by Henry, but at the same time she still betrayed a woman who was nothing but kind to her in the royal court. I think Shakespeare would have loved to write a drama about Henry VIII’s reign, but out of respect (and possibly fear) for Elizabeth I, he kept that tragedy to himself 😅
Actually, Shakespeare and John Fletcher collaborated on a play entitled "Henry VIII", which deals with the fall of Wolsey, Anne's rise, Katherine's hearing before the king and his courtiers, the rise of Cromwell, and the treason trial of the Duke of Buckingham. The play was produced about 10 years after Elizabeth I had died, which was probably prudent for the reasons you have noted.
Catherine had nothing to envy of the Boleyn sisters, she was a beautiful woman full of knowledge and loved by the English people.
Lady Di = Catherine of Aragon
Camilla Parker = Anne Boleyn
Is history repeating itself?
Lady Diana=Catherine Howard (Henry's 5th wife)
Camilla=Katherine Parr
Interesante elección. Ha tenido tantas esposas que hay por donde escoger jajaja
you seriously need to think before you post coming
you seriously need to think before you post coming
I thought of that too, but Princess Diana had two sons so not so much... But it's true in terms of popularity.
Queen Catherine is always the favorite!
What A Real Women! A Great Woman From A Great Family. Anna Got What She Deserved, Matter Of Fact She And Her Uncle Set There Faith Long Before They Thought Of Making Her Queen!
She lost her head. She got what she deserves. "muh Elizabeth"... Elizabeth ruined crown's budget and caused so many civil wars in England... And she never rewarded those soldiers who fought against the Spanish Armada... Queen Elizabeth allied with Moroccans in an attempt that they could reconquest Granada... She allied with enemies of Europe; she hired pirates... She was a mess.
Anne Boleyn never had the regal grace, dignity, or strength that Catherine possessed.
In real life she did, Anne actually did a lot more for England, especially the poor than Catherine did. Anne was regal, dignified, and strong as well and set up political movements against some heavy hitters in the English court. they were both amazing women, but Aragon is not as perfect as people wish she was.
Such a deeply iconic & powerful woman!! So much more then her husband ever was, she taught him everything & then he turned & disrespected her so deeply.
Notice how each of the girls treat Catherine. Anne foolishly considers herself superior to Catherine and behaves arrogantly to the queen without any respect. Mary rightfully is frightened of Catherine and respects her, feeling humbled and shameful for her actions.
Great foreshadowing to their fates. Anne's arrogance would play a part in her demise while Mary's humility would lead her to finding happiness.
Lol not really. That’s a very modern understanding of what happened.
Mary lived in poverty and disgrace. Just because she didn’t get beheaded doesn’t mean she had a good life.
Catherine of Aragon: the king’s one true wife
The rest of his wives: Rude!
I love Anne, but can’t help loving Katherine too. Her unbending conviction for what was rightfully hers.
You can love both of them, in real life they weren't enemies and they didn't hate each other
@@lexiright5609 Technically they are enemies because they realize that the other was the downfall of each other. This is especially apparent when Mary Tudor actively wished for Anne Boleyn’s misfortune which does come true.
@@KL-ki8db ??? They weren’t the downfall of each other. Anne was killed for unrelated reasons to Mary and Mary was sent away due to her mother being divorced. You need to stop getting your info from tv shows
caqtherine was the true queen
This is a cautionary tale on why it’s important for us women to stick together
No man is worth this
If I were a woman, I would never ever stick up with my husband's lover and viceversa. Leave that to Beyoncé and Shakira's 2007 duet beautiful liar but not me. One must have dignity and respect for oneself (men and women equally. @Star Cherry
@@edouardpiccoli3123 I used to think this way until I decided to see the perspective that the man is just playing with both of us. It's best to just take him down all together before he can cause more harm
Funny how in those days it was the womans fault when there was no child. I wonder how Henry would take it if he knew it was his fault.
Such a powerful scene
LOL ! Deep inside Henry knew the only queen was Catherine, that's why he's taken 5 "disposable" wives after her. Catherine's lineage cannot be compared with the "others"... Catherine's mother sponsored the expedition that lead to the "new world" in 1492.
Long live queen Katherine!!
I think Anne peed in her pants facing Katherine here
You want to send me to a nunnery? Honey, there's no way.
Natalie does a decent sneer as Anne Boleyn. The Gable Hood were quite good! I had issues with the French Hoods, however.
Catherine is a true royal blooded princess that is why she is demure and well mannered.
Catherine didn’t even look like this. She deserved so much better
She does dress like. The movie is very accurate with the clothing as Anne shows her hair but Catherine doesn’t. The only thing that doesn’t match about Catherine is that Catherine in real life is a redhead but nevertheless this movie is pretty accurate of how Catherine is.
I can't imagine England if her Son lived a full life and not fell victim to infant mortality.
Scarlett Johansson and Natalie Portman have both come such a long way in their careers. I love them so much! 👏🏾😍