Robert Nelson They had a WW2 Russia esc mentality, they used weapons that were good enough instead of the best of the best. That helped with costs and supply during the war and would've won it if the Clone Wars wasn't part of a Master plan.
+Robert Nelson It helps that the AAT was produced as a commercially available product first, meaning it had to be able to accommodate organic operators. This is also why I loved the B1/OOM series battle droids so much, as they were a basic grunt that could be asked to do anything an organic infantryman could do.
But the AAT is awful. It has a giant weakspot right in the middle of it in the form of the giant and useless frontal hatch, plus the terrible rocket launchers that are positioned in such a way that both compromises the frontal armor by having giant cut-outs in it filled with explosives and are completely ineffective as a weapon since they are fired from the lowest point of the tank and would immediately detonate if they came across debris or hills (which in battlefields kinda happens a lot). And that's not even mentioning the pointless fixed laser cannons or the idiotically tall and wide profile. It's a terrible design of a tank.
The AAT's main gun is nimble enough to track and down Naboo N-1 Starfighters as they tried to leave the Theed Hanger. Another plus, many modern MBTs are vulnerable to air attack, so it's nice to have a tank that can bite back.
NoobyWarfare 606 This is why attack helicopters are pretty much always moving. They are designed to take quite a beating and most tank crews would be concerned with ground threats leaving anti-air defense to other units, flak guns and the own air units. I haven't even mentioned the A-10 which is a tank-hunting beast and every bit as nasty and tough as the Warthog it's named after. 50 cals won't bring that down!
During Desert Storm Apache Helicopters destroyed over 200 tanks and other vehicles with the loss of one helicopter to an RPG. In Afghanistan Russian Hinds took stupid amounts over fire to take down, including American Stinger Missiles.
Even worse, so many are fixed. Like not even in the sense of only traversing forward but in the sense they can literally only be pointing straight on where the whole vehicle is with no way of going up or down.
It goes to show that in the star wars verse, while they are technologically more advanced than us, but military wise they are lacking, mainly due to experience and doctrines. AAT is in my opinion one of the best star wars tanks, however even then it has the weakness of being geared towards "Full forward assault" with the only one weapon capable of rotating intependently.
I say the AAT and Saber tank are both effective from opposite sides of the spectrum. Though saying one is better than the other is a bit of a stretch, I can see why you favor the AAT but I would say it's a tie between the two. Despite that I respect your opinion
Michael Hanson the AAT is the primary tank of the separatists. The ATTE is the republic's main tank. They both have heavy cannons, so the SABER is nimble and can take care of fast targets
I would use the AAT in rials of assault attacking fortified positions I would use the saber tank for escorts and general mayhem attacks both have their uses
Great analysis as always 👍🏼 I think AAT deserves the win. They should show it using its other weapons more often in canon material because the amount of assets it has is absurd, much like the K-Wing.
nope. The Saber Tank has a much more reasonable profile, energy shielding, better mobility, and decent firepower. AAT is arguably nothing more than a small improvement on modern Earthling tanks. The only thing the AAT really has on the Saber Tank is firepower and artillery capabilites, but why would you need those when you can speed up to the enemies and give them a concussion missile right in the kisser?
@@emirwattabor6991 I'm very late to the party, but I completely agree. Playing the old Clone Wars game, where you played as a Jedi piloting a TX-130, those things were extremely agile and fast. TX-130s could lock onto their targets, then blast away with the heavy laser cannons, and rockets until nothing was left. Because of their incredible maneuverability, (and the fact thaat they were being piloted by Jedi with pre cognition and force sense abilities of course), TX-130s could take on far more heavily armed vehicles than just AATs. In the game, TX-130s could take on Proto-Dekas, which had missile racks similar to hailfire tanks, with enormous, rapid fire laser cannons, and a shockwave weapon, as well as far more armor than an AAT.
+Andrew Nicholson Actually it WAS going to be a Hover Tank in the movie, they just couldn't pull off the visual effect and just said "Fuck it, leave the treads in."
Jake Pelletier I honestly think the AAC would function better as an anti-Air gun. It’s lightly armored, fast, and doesn’t possess weapons suited for a main line tank, but the missile battery on top would make a very effective SAM.
Jake Pelletier It was actually my least favorite of the vehicles, I thought it was at a disadvantage against the Imperial TX-130 unless your gunner could actually hit the target.
Glory to the Confederacy!!! You've made me very happy as of late, Eck! Giving credit where it's due!!! Too bad I was too late to mention the AAT's Anti-Air capabilities against N1's...
I'm late to the party, but I completely agree. Those things were incredibly fast, maneuverable, and were more than capable of taking on very heavy vehicles. While not as heavily armed as ATTEs, or AATs, the TX-130 was more than capable of taking on far heavier vehicles like Protodekas when piloted by a Jedi. I personally think that the rockets and heavy laser cannons would be more than enough to destroy an AAT, while the TX-130 could avaid the mass majority of anything firing back at it.
The republic had the ARF and ARC troopers...I think the imperial scout trooper has a negative competency level when compared with even the standard Stormtroopers. If we are going by the amount of times they were handily trounced in rebels, for example
So many good memories with the Saber Tank. I've had so many teammates shot out of the beam turret.The AAT on the other hand, I used its main cannon to snipe enemies (particularly laser turrets, spider walkers, and enemies not paying attention) from almost across the map. Plus, the AAT didn't get its missile launchers until BF2. Regardless, they were still both fun to pilot.
In Star Wars: Force Commander (1999) the Rebellion gets the YT Hover Tank, which was also specialized for anti-infantry like the T2-B, but also had an anti-air flak gun. Pretty cool idea for a tank that you don't see very often.
I think that for imperials you should have used one tank from the line of "imperial-class repulsortank" where you find the 1-L, 1-M and 1-H (ligth, medium and heavy). For example the ligth one is similar to the rebel t2-b but is faster, better armed (one medium blaster Canon) but without shields.
When you think about it, the TX-225 seems more to fit the role of an assault gun, meant to bolster the firepower of the infantry around it as well as providing support against more hard enemy positions, or even light to medium armor (considering what it did to that building in Rogue One, those cannons does seem to slouch in term of power). It's like the various Stug models fielded by the Germans in WW2, and when you look at the TX-225 from this angle, it actually becomes a rather good design for an infantry support assault gun.
The occupier could be really good if it had a configuration where instead of cargo space it has an armored tank turret. Imagine that, six front facing laser cannons plus a proper tank turret. With that modification I would be an absolute beast
lol if it had the same units and armor and weapons as in the old republic then the CIS would have been screwed, like cmon the old republic seems to do literally everything better than the clone wars republic, even the Jedi were better, and the enemies were way better.
Anyone remember the old vehicles only Clone Wars game that let you drive all these tanks and more, as well as a few missions in campaign that was on the ground or in the air?
Once again, the CIS prove to have some brilliant designs. I love the bastards. Just wondering, please can you do some stuff about the Old Republic? Like, old, old Republic. 400 bby or before, maybe?
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Another great video, good job. Also a bit of advice for your next factions compared recap episode, you should avarage each faction based on how many episodes they've been in so you can include more episodes even if they don't include the 4 main faction's.
I think overall the TX-130 is the more effective vehicle. As you said, it is a very fast vehicle and its armament is effective at engaging both infantry and vehicles. That means that it is capable of easily outmaneuvering enemy units, allowing it to effectively strike vulnerable areas while still being effective in direct combat. The AAT has the advantage in firepower but the difference in speed means that opposing forces have much more time to react and maneuver against them. Obviously in the case of direct assaults against heavily fortified positions the AAT may be a better choice depending on opposing force capabilities, but in terms of large scale conflicts the TX-130 would be a much more viable option because it is able to be more effective across a wider range of scenarios. I think that the AAT is a good option for direct assaults and fortification of strategic positions. The TX-130 however, is much more practice for maneuver warfare. The TX-130 would also prove a much more effective choice in irregular warfare because of how quickly it would be able to react to hit and run tactics while also being able to effectively conduct hit and run strikes itself.
Hey, there's something I would urge you to look at at some point that's pretty interesting called the Protodeka. It was featured in the old Star Wars: The Clone Wars video game that I used to play on the original xbox (man, those were some great days in my childhood). It was basically a very large hovering weapons platform that served as a boss fight in at least two places in the game, if memory serves. Here's a link to the wiki page: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Protodeka Should help you get started if you ever deem it worthy of being featured in a vid. I'm sure there's a few youtube videos floating around of it as well. Love your channel and content! You seem like the kind of guy who would be fun to have lunch with and talk Star Wars for a few hours.
The Republic's TX-130 tank was also used in the Star Wars: Clone Wars video game on Playstation 2 and the original Xbox, if I'm remembering that correctly. Easily one of my favorite tanks.
My favorite Star Wars tank of all time is still the TX-130 tank. I thought it was badass back when I first got 2002's Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and I still think that today. You're right about it's main advantage being speed, the Battlefront games had to weaken it for balancing issues but I remember it could easily go toe to toe with most CIS tanks, I think it's main rival was the Homing Spider Droids, just because those didn't need to turn around to shoot you. It's interesting you compare the tank to a Jedi, because I'm pretty sure in the booklet for The Clone Wars it's compared to the "Jedi Starfighter of the ground" for it's speed and maneuverability. Great video, keep it up!
Everyone that plays Star Wars commander knows the Tx-225 is the best tank , that think is bunker buster , it destroys everything in its path. The problem with this comparisons is that all of this vehicles have different roles . The saber tank is clearly a tank destroyer with all of its missiles and medium weapons is fire everything retreat look for another attack angle hit them everything and retreat and start the process all over again. The AAT is a main battle tank . Heavy armor , good all around fire power with some some weak spots like the turret ring that can be exploited by a thermal detonator or rocket , the power cells and the back that can be taken out by fast nimble vehicles like the AT RT or BARC speeder. The Tx-225 is like a land battleship from ww1 relatively slow good frontal sloped armor, good against rockets and blaster fire and big weapons to clean a path over enemy positions, like buildings or streets. The rebel tank shows the alliance lack of vision, I mean a tank designed to take out infantry and maybe some low level flying fighters. Two departments where the rebel Alliance really doesn’t need help specially because the tank is susceptible to proton torpedoes, rockets , and even heavy blasters like E-web blasters.
I dunno what you mean with the rebel tank. Stormtroopers are lethal against rebels, so a tank dedicated to killing them is well worthwhile. Its not like the rebels have a chance of defeating the larger walkers with ground armor, so it would be a waste to build a tank focused on killing heavy armor. The anti-personnel tank with high speed makes alot of sense for that purpose, avoid enemy armor and kill enemy infantry.
Here's what you should do, EckhartsLadder. *1. Imperial II Star Destroyer (Star Wars) vs Lucrehulk-class Droid Control Ship (Star Wars)* *2. Imperial II Star Destroyer (Star Wars) vs Romulan D'deridex-class, B-type Warbird (Star Trek)* *3. Tempest Shadow (My Little Pony: The Movie) vs Darth Vader (Star Wars)* *4. Darth Sidious/Palpatine (Star Wars) vs Mewtwo (Pokemon)* *5. Leatherhead (TMNT 2003) vs Wampa (Star Wars) aka "Could Leatherhead protect Luke against a Wampa?"* *6. What if Master Splinter (TMNT 2003) was a Jedi?* Please do these ones.
Thunderbolt Starfury from Babylon 5 vs the Sabre from Halo Reach. VF-1S Valkyrie variable fighter from SDF Macross (not Robotech) vs the Union Overflag from Gundam 00. Talgeese from Gundam Wing vs the Grimgerde from Gundam IBO.
Wasn’t that rebel alliance hovertank featured in Star Wars rogue squadron on the n64 in one of the levels? The level where you have to fly cover against fighters while the tanks were providing cover for supply transport hover vehicles?
Ever since I have really got into Star Wars (at around 8 or 9), I think the AAT was my favorite tank, out of ANY SHOW OR ANYTHING THAT EXISTS/EXISTED, I just LOVE the AAT, the design, the armament, the effectiveness, almost EVERYTHING.
I love the T2B. It was an excellent scout and spotter for artillery strikes and bombing runs. The shields also made it unbeatable against regular infantry unless there were 4 or more infantry squadrons, where their damage per second overcame the T2B's ability to recharge shields. One strategy in multiplayer was to make use of the "Hunt" ability, which splits up the 5-tank squadron and lets them all operate independently. They seek out and destroy any targets, though more likely they'll just fight and hold their opponent in place. If you do this with several squadrons of tanks, the enemy will be overwhelmed on multiple fronts as you manually control your heavier tanks. I've had multiple people quit on me when I use this strategy. It's not as effective against AI since the AI can multitask.
I wholeheartedly agree with the choices/places on the list. Being the 'tank nut' I am, I have to note that many Early WW2 Russian Heavy Tanks (KV Series) had rear turret machine guns, and the idea was scrapped because (as you said) if used with supporting infantry it would be fine, not to mention the additional storage for ammo and the maintenance. Also the AAT is lightly armored in the back with all it vital systems there, can't argue with that, but there really is no other place to put them (can't put in center since all the crew are there) + heavy armor on the back of a tank is usually not beneficial for speed, and cost since it rarely is used. Sorry for the rant. Love your channel!
From what I can tell, the AAT was designed to be fielded in large set piece battles in lines or in close spaces where it can funnel enemies in front of it, therefore negating its weak spot. Only what I can tell tough
The AAT has to be my favorite. Idk why but that big cannon on the top just makes that tank look like a mobile artillery unit. Plus the large mortar tubes in the front give it a nice anti armor roll. If there was a droid on top with a repeating blaster it would be a far mor perfect tank. Im glad we agree on this being our fav, 2 great minds think alike lol Loved the video and how you included that crappy rebellion tank. Keep it up
The TX-130 fighter tank was first introduced in the young Boba Fett novel and the 2002 Clone Wars Video game prior to the original Battlefront and Battlefront II.
I always looked at the T2B as more of a APC rather than a tank just because it has always been my belief that it was more effective in mechifinzed infantry rolls
Hey Eckhardt, you should consider doing some comparison videos with the factions from the Starcraft universe, I feel like there could be some really cool matchups, like the Terran military vs the empire or UNSC, especially since while the Terran's would be at a numbers disadvantage the basic marine is essentially a nerfed Space Marine from Warhammer 40k. And the Protoss would be cool to look at because while they would really suffer a numbers disadvantage I don't think there is a single faction you've talked about so far that even approaches their level of technological advancement. Anyways just thought you might find the idea interesting, love the videos and keep on keeping on!
High Templar(Starcraft) vs Jedi/Sith Hyperion(Starcraft) vs Admiral Ackbar’s Home One/The Raddus Raynor's Raiders(Starcraft) vs Resistance Terran Dominion(Starcraft) vs Galactic Republic/New Republic Spear of Adun(Starcraft) vs Snoke’s Mega Star Destroyer Protoss(Starcraft) vs Covenant Zerg (Starcraft) vs Empire Protoss(Starcraft) vs CIS United Koprulu Sector(Starcraft) vs United Star Wars Galaxy 88th try. I WILL NEVER GIVE UP!
I think the AAT, and maybe the Sabre, could serve as good basis for a cheap ground vehicle, being able to be modified for your needs with minimal additions, like changing the turret to fit a lighter variant of a massdriver, as mounted on the AT-TE, or an assault gun variant, with an extended back section, and a forward mounted heavy cannon, to bust open fortifications or large formation, and two rear and sides covering independent turrets to fend of infantry and light vehicles.
Hyperspace suicide runs aside, from what I'm aware the Supremacy is primary a command center and mobile shipyard/manufacturing area, while the Viscount was designed specifically to counter other star dreadnoughts like the Executor-class. Shittons of turbolasers, ion cannons, armor, and Mon Cal shielding. So just one Viscount would probably win against the Supremacy.
That's more of a troop/cargo transport than a tank. It might be faster than the Occupier Tank Eckhart's went with, but it's weapons are very limited. The Empire would still probably be in last place with either choice.
I really love the AAT. As a military enthusiast and historian (in training) what always annoyed me was the use of the casemate style of vehicle (no turret). Not only does this create blind spots on over 75% of the vehicle but it makes it almost useless in urban combat. The amount of weapons is useless if they can only be used to engage one target at a time. What you really want is to place the weapons in such a way that they can engage multiple targets at different angles at once. Also, it is very possible that the AAT's anti personnel guns can swivel 360 degrees and fire on targets to the rear. Another thing that annoys me is that they do not make use of remote control turrets like we have today. You don't need someone sitting outside the tank when you could simply rig up a remote firing system to the gun.
I just thought of this, the AAT's shell launchers can't be aimed independently right? But the shells can still be fired in an arc if the entire tank is angled upward, which it can do because it hovers.
As a Republic lover, I am putting Republic Hover Tank on the first spot. The design looks neat. It's small but quite fast and it has got two powerful cannons. Sure, the armour is not strong but I still love it. AAT is good too but what I don't like on it is that the turrent can't go down fully. Sure, it can take out starfighters but ground forces, not much. At least in the close encounter.
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EckhartsLadder , I will have to agree with you on that, the aat is a great tank.
You forgot about the T3 tank from the original battlefront 2.
Good video
Technically the "Turret" in that comic is more of a pintle mount.
EckhartsLadder hmm one legends vehicle and the one canon. The rest is multiuniversal 🤔 ekharts can you stick with one or the other
“You’re so biased for the CIS!!!” -No one ever. But it is nice to see it’s been getting some love recently! Keep up the good work!!!
The CIS tended to use cheap, mass-produced weapons, but they did have some good quality ones as well.
Robert Nelson They had a WW2 Russia esc mentality, they used weapons that were good enough instead of the best of the best.
That helped with costs and supply during the war and would've won it if the Clone Wars wasn't part of a Master plan.
Yeah I know, so the fact the AAT was ranked number 1 hovertank is pretty sad for the other three factions.
A beloved faction born as a pawn on a chessboard.
+Robert Nelson It helps that the AAT was produced as a commercially available product first, meaning it had to be able to accommodate organic operators.
This is also why I loved the B1/OOM series battle droids so much, as they were a basic grunt that could be asked to do anything an organic infantryman could do.
The way you describe the aat in the number 1 slot really shows how it is very similar to modern tanks
Shows how effective our modern tanks are then.
I think the AAT may in part be inspired by the disk like shape on the Russian T-90 tank turret or alternatively the Obj. 279
@@RaeSyngKane lol actually they based on the t 72/ t 55 turret in the design phases.... So you are accurate
But the AAT is awful. It has a giant weakspot right in the middle of it in the form of the giant and useless frontal hatch, plus the terrible rocket launchers that are positioned in such a way that both compromises the frontal armor by having giant cut-outs in it filled with explosives and are completely ineffective as a weapon since they are fired from the lowest point of the tank and would immediately detonate if they came across debris or hills (which in battlefields kinda happens a lot). And that's not even mentioning the pointless fixed laser cannons or the idiotically tall and wide profile. It's a terrible design of a tank.
@@joaogomes9405 compared to literally every other tank in star wars, it is a godsend.
The AAT's main gun is nimble enough to track and down Naboo N-1 Starfighters as they tried to leave the Theed Hanger. Another plus, many modern MBTs are vulnerable to air attack, so it's nice to have a tank that can bite back.
NoobyWarfare 606 This is why attack helicopters are pretty much always moving. They are designed to take quite a beating and most tank crews would be concerned with ground threats leaving anti-air defense to other units, flak guns and the own air units. I haven't even mentioned the A-10 which is a tank-hunting beast and every bit as nasty and tough as the Warthog it's named after. 50 cals won't bring that down!
I think it was pre-positioned in an almost perfect angle.
During Desert Storm Apache Helicopters destroyed over 200 tanks and other vehicles with the loss of one helicopter to an RPG. In Afghanistan Russian Hinds took stupid amounts over fire to take down, including American Stinger Missiles.
Though to be fair the aircraft were barely taking off... Then again it was being piloted by droids so yeah... Good tank.
Cheap droids at that...
Ahh the fact that most star wars tanks don’t have a 360 armored turret. Is disturbing.
I agree, it makes no sense.
Even worse, so many are fixed. Like not even in the sense of only traversing forward but in the sense they can literally only be pointing straight on where the whole vehicle is with no way of going up or down.
Because it's easier to make the toys that way. :^)
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It goes to show that in the star wars verse, while they are technologically more advanced than us, but military wise they are lacking, mainly due to experience and doctrines. AAT is in my opinion one of the best star wars tanks, however even then it has the weakness of being geared towards "Full forward assault" with the only one weapon capable of rotating intependently.
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I say the AAT and Saber tank are both effective from opposite sides of the spectrum. Though saying one is better than the other is a bit of a stretch, I can see why you favor the AAT but I would say it's a tie between the two. Despite that I respect your opinion
well in terms of tactics, i believe the AAT has more utility than the Saber.
Michael Hanson that could be true, just a silly opinion of mine
Michael Hanson the AAT is the primary tank of the separatists. The ATTE is the republic's main tank. They both have heavy cannons, so the SABER is nimble and can take care of fast targets
I would use the AAT in rials of assault attacking fortified positions I would use the saber tank for escorts and general mayhem attacks both have their uses
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Great analysis as always 👍🏼 I think AAT deserves the win. They should show it using its other weapons more often in canon material because the amount of assets it has is absurd, much like the K-Wing.
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nope.
The Saber Tank has a much more reasonable profile, energy shielding, better mobility, and decent firepower.
AAT is arguably nothing more than a small improvement on modern Earthling tanks. The only thing the AAT really has on the Saber Tank is firepower and artillery capabilites, but why would you need those when you can speed up to the enemies and give them a concussion missile right in the kisser?
@@emirwattabor6991 Battle of Ryloth, Star Wars the Clone wars?
@@emirwattabor6991 I'm very late to the party, but I completely agree. Playing the old Clone Wars game, where you played as a Jedi piloting a TX-130, those things were extremely agile and fast. TX-130s could lock onto their targets, then blast away with the heavy laser cannons, and rockets until nothing was left. Because of their incredible maneuverability, (and the fact thaat they were being piloted by Jedi with pre cognition and force sense abilities of course), TX-130s could take on far more heavily armed vehicles than just AATs. In the game, TX-130s could take on Proto-Dekas, which had missile racks similar to hailfire tanks, with enormous, rapid fire laser cannons, and a shockwave weapon, as well as far more armor than an AAT.
The original Battlefront 2 was great 👍👍
Tim Bartsch and nods made it even better
Nodding really adds to the experience yeah
Different mods I see
It IS great.
Back when everyone started out at equal power in multiplayer and nothing you did the rest of the game gave you an advantage other than experience.
The cis tank looks cool.
The true criteria for winning
i like how the first one has tracks
*_really_* like that
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There were 2 variants, I think the tracked version was for reference
The tracked and repulsor ones are exactly the same. The only reason the repulsor one exist is cuz LEGO thought it was a hover tank, not a tracked one
+Andrew Nicholson
Actually it WAS going to be a Hover Tank in the movie, they just couldn't pull off the visual effect and just said "Fuck it, leave the treads in."
I love the AAT. It's good at its job and sports an iconic feature of a tank: A large main gun.
This is the factions compared that I’ve been waiting for! Thanks for this!
though a great choice for the alliance, i would have loved to see the Alliance AAC-1 or AAC-2 instead of the T2B
Jake Pelletier I honestly think the AAC would function better as an anti-Air gun. It’s lightly armored, fast, and doesn’t possess weapons suited for a main line tank, but the missile battery on top would make a very effective SAM.
CC-22 -5133 thats actually what it is, i just think it would have been a better and more effective choice. It was pretty good in OG Battlefront 2
Jake Pelletier It was actually my least favorite of the vehicles, I thought it was at a disadvantage against the Imperial TX-130 unless your gunner could actually hit the target.
CC-22 -5133 I always played with a buddy, but i know the pain and I agree that the saber is better
Yeah, a Saber-AAC 1v1 almost always went to the Saber pilot.
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Glory to the Confederacy!!! You've made me very happy as of late, Eck! Giving credit where it's due!!!
Too bad I was too late to mention the AAT's Anti-Air capabilities against N1's...
The tx130 was fun in battlefront but if you've ever played it in Star Wars the Clone Wars(the 2002 game) you know how much of a badass that tank is.
This, with a Jedi behind the controls it was the Rambo of tanks.
The Republic TX-130 is nice and all, but what about the droid attack in the Wookies?
@@AndyIli It was there.
I got an Xbox for christmas in 02 or 03 and it came with clone wars in a bundle. Amazing game!
I'm late to the party, but I completely agree. Those things were incredibly fast, maneuverable, and were more than capable of taking on very heavy vehicles. While not as heavily armed as ATTEs, or AATs, the TX-130 was more than capable of taking on far heavier vehicles like Protodekas when piloted by a Jedi. I personally think that the rockets and heavy laser cannons would be more than enough to destroy an AAT, while the TX-130 could avaid the mass majority of anything firing back at it.
Do which faction has the best scout or sniper trooper
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That would be a great video 👍
Yes!
I think the empire might finally be number one for that one
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What about the Republic
The republic had the ARF and ARC troopers...I think the imperial scout trooper has a negative competency level when compared with even the standard Stormtroopers. If we are going by the amount of times they were handily trounced in rebels, for example
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So many good memories with the Saber Tank. I've had so many teammates shot out of the beam turret.The AAT on the other hand, I used its main cannon to snipe enemies (particularly laser turrets, spider walkers, and enemies not paying attention) from almost across the map. Plus, the AAT didn't get its missile launchers until BF2. Regardless, they were still both fun to pilot.
In Star Wars: Force Commander (1999) the Rebellion gets the YT Hover Tank, which was also specialized for anti-infantry like the T2-B, but also had an anti-air flak gun. Pretty cool idea for a tank that you don't see very often.
I think that for imperials you should have used one tank from the line of "imperial-class repulsortank" where you find the 1-L, 1-M and 1-H (ligth, medium and heavy). For example the ligth one is similar to the rebel t2-b but is faster, better armed (one medium blaster Canon) but without shields.
When you think about it, the TX-225 seems more to fit the role of an assault gun, meant to bolster the firepower of the infantry around it as well as providing support against more hard enemy positions, or even light to medium armor (considering what it did to that building in Rogue One, those cannons does seem to slouch in term of power). It's like the various Stug models fielded by the Germans in WW2, and when you look at the TX-225 from this angle, it actually becomes a rather good design for an infantry support assault gun.
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Canderous Assault Tank laughs and destroys everything. Seriously, that unit is blasted OP.
Until it meets the T4-B heavy tank
Good lord yes, zann has some op shit
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great vid man may the force be with you
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The occupier could be really good if it had a configuration where instead of cargo space it has an armored tank turret. Imagine that, six front facing laser cannons plus a proper tank turret. With that modification I would be an absolute beast
the alliance would have really suited the sabre would love to see more rebels using clone wars tech great video as always
They did. Just isn't shown very often.
What if the Republic had a standing army at the beginning of the Clone Wars like it had in the old republic days?
CC-2224 Commander Cody
The clone war would be a different outcome
Tim Bartsch wonder how Palpatines plan would change?
CC-2224 Commander Cody
It would back fire meaning Order 66 wouldn't happen and the Jedi would survive
lol if it had the same units and armor and weapons as in the old republic then the CIS would have been screwed, like cmon the old republic seems to do literally everything better than the clone wars republic, even the Jedi were better, and the enemies were way better.
Thyre Radim agreed
Anyone remember the old vehicles only Clone Wars game that let you drive all these tanks and more, as well as a few missions in campaign that was on the ground or in the air?
5:45 "Armored Assault Transport" come on Eckharts, you almost got it right!
The T2B was crazy quick though. Instead of a rear laser cannon on the Separatist tank I’d put a way to deploy mines.
Fancy that the AAT is also my favorite hovertank as well
Once again, the CIS prove to have some brilliant designs. I love the bastards.
Just wondering, please can you do some stuff about the Old Republic? Like, old, old Republic. 400 bby or before, maybe?
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The Tank at 3:09 is also in a Star Wars video game called Clone Wars (2002) In the middle of the booklet was a diagram of the tank.
Another great video, good job. Also a bit of advice for your next factions compared recap episode, you should avarage each faction based on how many episodes they've been in so you can include more episodes even if they don't include the 4 main faction's.
The rouge 1 tank could be a great chassis to build a large variety of units.
Light artilary, Medium tank, tank destroyer, AAA, etc
YES THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH ECKHART. BEEN ASKING FOR A WHILE
Perfect! Totally what I was looking for. Thank you for making this.
best speeder ex barc, stap, 74 z, ect
X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (the Legends version)
2 years later he made this vid
I think overall the TX-130 is the more effective vehicle. As you said, it is a very fast vehicle and its armament is effective at engaging both infantry and vehicles. That means that it is capable of easily outmaneuvering enemy units, allowing it to effectively strike vulnerable areas while still being effective in direct combat. The AAT has the advantage in firepower but the difference in speed means that opposing forces have much more time to react and maneuver against them. Obviously in the case of direct assaults against heavily fortified positions the AAT may be a better choice depending on opposing force capabilities, but in terms of large scale conflicts the TX-130 would be a much more viable option because it is able to be more effective across a wider range of scenarios.
I think that the AAT is a good option for direct assaults and fortification of strategic positions. The TX-130 however, is much more practice for maneuver warfare. The TX-130 would also prove a much more effective choice in irregular warfare because of how quickly it would be able to react to hit and run tactics while also being able to effectively conduct hit and run strikes itself.
Hey, there's something I would urge you to look at at some point that's pretty interesting called the Protodeka. It was featured in the old Star Wars: The Clone Wars video game that I used to play on the original xbox (man, those were some great days in my childhood). It was basically a very large hovering weapons platform that served as a boss fight in at least two places in the game, if memory serves.
Here's a link to the wiki page: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Protodeka Should help you get started if you ever deem it worthy of being featured in a vid. I'm sure there's a few youtube videos floating around of it as well.
Love your channel and content! You seem like the kind of guy who would be fun to have lunch with and talk Star Wars for a few hours.
That game is the first appearance of the Saber, too. Neat little title I got with my first xbox.
Everybody gangsta until the yanks start hovering
Thank you for finally doing this Eck
The Republic's TX-130 tank was also used in the Star Wars: Clone Wars video game on Playstation 2 and the original Xbox, if I'm remembering that correctly. Easily one of my favorite tanks.
Nebula class vs. Resurgent class
Great video, keep them coming please, I love watching star wars videos like this.
You know it's a good video when the first frame is from the original star wars battlefront 2
Now that you have done a video on which faction has the best corvette you should do a video on which faction has the best frigate.
What about the imperial 1-H, 1-L or 1-M hovertanks? these are legends but were porbably the coolest imperial hovertanks
Wasnt the t4b in battlefront renegade squadron aswell?
Your awesome love you vids, keep up the good work :)
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My favorite Star Wars tank of all time is still the TX-130 tank. I thought it was badass back when I first got 2002's Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and I still think that today.
You're right about it's main advantage being speed, the Battlefront games had to weaken it for balancing issues but I remember it could easily go toe to toe with most CIS tanks, I think it's main rival was the Homing Spider Droids, just because those didn't need to turn around to shoot you.
It's interesting you compare the tank to a Jedi, because I'm pretty sure in the booklet for The Clone Wars it's compared to the "Jedi Starfighter of the ground" for it's speed and maneuverability.
Great video, keep it up!
I love the occupier, such a great looking design.
Everyone that plays Star Wars commander knows the Tx-225 is the best tank , that think is bunker buster , it destroys everything in its path. The problem with this comparisons is that all of this vehicles have different roles . The saber tank is clearly a tank destroyer with all of its missiles and medium weapons is fire everything retreat look for another attack angle hit them everything and retreat and start the process all over again. The AAT is a main battle tank . Heavy armor , good all around fire power with some some weak spots like the turret ring that can be exploited by a thermal detonator or rocket , the power cells and the back that can be taken out by fast nimble vehicles like the AT RT or BARC speeder. The Tx-225 is like a land battleship from ww1 relatively slow good frontal sloped armor, good against rockets and blaster fire and big weapons to clean a path over enemy positions, like buildings or streets. The rebel tank shows the alliance lack of vision, I mean a tank designed to take out infantry and maybe some low level flying fighters. Two departments where the rebel Alliance really doesn’t need help specially because the tank is susceptible to proton torpedoes, rockets , and even heavy blasters like E-web blasters.
I dunno what you mean with the rebel tank. Stormtroopers are lethal against rebels, so a tank dedicated to killing them is well worthwhile. Its not like the rebels have a chance of defeating the larger walkers with ground armor, so it would be a waste to build a tank focused on killing heavy armor. The anti-personnel tank with high speed makes alot of sense for that purpose, avoid enemy armor and kill enemy infantry.
Eck you are doing really original ideas 👍🏻
my fav is the Republic Fighter Tank.
always is, always will be.
the other tanks aren't bad, as well.
Here's what you should do, EckhartsLadder.
*1. Imperial II Star Destroyer (Star Wars) vs Lucrehulk-class Droid Control Ship (Star Wars)*
*2. Imperial II Star Destroyer (Star Wars) vs Romulan D'deridex-class, B-type Warbird (Star Trek)*
*3. Tempest Shadow (My Little Pony: The Movie) vs Darth Vader (Star Wars)*
*4. Darth Sidious/Palpatine (Star Wars) vs Mewtwo (Pokemon)*
*5. Leatherhead (TMNT 2003) vs Wampa (Star Wars) aka "Could Leatherhead protect Luke against a Wampa?"*
*6. What if Master Splinter (TMNT 2003) was a Jedi?*
Please do these ones.
2:12 That guys private spot got shot ｘｄ
10th try (help me out here guys): UNSC Infinity vs the Supremacy, Legends New Republic vs First Order, and Yuuzon Vong vs Clone Wars Republic
Thunderbolt Starfury from Babylon 5 vs the Sabre from Halo Reach.
VF-1S Valkyrie variable fighter from SDF Macross (not Robotech) vs the Union Overflag from Gundam 00.
Talgeese from Gundam Wing vs the Grimgerde from Gundam IBO.
Wasn’t that rebel alliance hovertank featured in Star Wars rogue squadron on the n64 in one of the levels? The level where you have to fly cover against fighters while the tanks were providing cover for supply transport hover vehicles?
Keep them coming beast
Ever since I have really got into Star Wars (at around 8 or 9), I think the AAT was my favorite tank, out of ANY SHOW OR ANYTHING THAT EXISTS/EXISTED, I just LOVE the AAT, the design, the armament, the effectiveness, almost EVERYTHING.
You don't know how much I want to try the AAT in a war thunder/world of tanks style game. The specs are amazing.
I love the T2B. It was an excellent scout and spotter for artillery strikes and bombing runs. The shields also made it unbeatable against regular infantry unless there were 4 or more infantry squadrons, where their damage per second overcame the T2B's ability to recharge shields. One strategy in multiplayer was to make use of the "Hunt" ability, which splits up the 5-tank squadron and lets them all operate independently. They seek out and destroy any targets, though more likely they'll just fight and hold their opponent in place. If you do this with several squadrons of tanks, the enemy will be overwhelmed on multiple fronts as you manually control your heavier tanks. I've had multiple people quit on me when I use this strategy. It's not as effective against AI since the AI can multitask.
You should've used the T3B for the rebels. It was more than a match against most of this list
T4-B or bust
The t3b is a wheeled vehicle.
EckhartsLadder there was a repulsorlift version ,not the t3bh
T2-B instead?
Sorry, T1 I mean't.
the next factions compared video should be : best ground troop carrier
I wholeheartedly agree with the choices/places on the list. Being the 'tank nut' I am, I have to note that many Early WW2 Russian Heavy Tanks (KV Series) had rear turret machine guns, and the idea was scrapped because (as you said) if used with supporting infantry it would be fine, not to mention the additional storage for ammo and the maintenance. Also the AAT is lightly armored in the back with all it vital systems there, can't argue with that, but there really is no other place to put them (can't put in center since all the crew are there) + heavy armor on the back of a tank is usually not beneficial for speed, and cost since it rarely is used.
Sorry for the rant. Love your channel!
I know this is an old video but the empires 2-M Hover Battle tank would have completely outdone the separatist main Battle tank.
Completely agree. The AAT is my favorite star wars ground vehicle besides the AH6.
501st operator: "Score one for the Separatists, danm."
The Empire has an AAT-type hover tank, which we see in the canon comic firing at a hijacked AT-AT.
I was expecting the AAC-1 speeder tank, I've never heard of this Rebel vehicle, but only its treaded cousin.
Which faction used the most death sticks?
From what I can tell, the AAT was designed to be fielded in large set piece battles in lines or in close spaces where it can funnel enemies in front of it, therefore negating its weak spot. Only what I can tell tough
This is the third time I’ve seen this saber tank clip
The AAT has to be my favorite. Idk why but that big cannon on the top just makes that tank look like a mobile artillery unit. Plus the large mortar tubes in the front give it a nice anti armor roll. If there was a droid on top with a repeating blaster it would be a far mor perfect tank. Im glad we agree on this being our fav, 2 great minds think alike lol Loved the video and how you included that crappy rebellion tank. Keep it up
The TX-130 fighter tank was first introduced in the young Boba Fett novel and the 2002 Clone Wars Video game prior to the original Battlefront and Battlefront II.
I always looked at the T2B as more of a APC rather than a tank just because it has always been my belief that it was more effective in mechifinzed infantry rolls
It seems like the Republic ground forces would mostly be fantastic at blitzkrieg style warfare with the exception of some of the larger walkers.
The New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels mentions there are AAT variants that were sheilded.
6:46 I have that book, it's awesome
Hey Eckhardt, you should consider doing some comparison videos with the factions from the Starcraft universe, I feel like there could be some really cool matchups, like the Terran military vs the empire or UNSC, especially since while the Terran's would be at a numbers disadvantage the basic marine is essentially a nerfed Space Marine from Warhammer 40k. And the Protoss would be cool to look at because while they would really suffer a numbers disadvantage I don't think there is a single faction you've talked about so far that even approaches their level of technological advancement. Anyways just thought you might find the idea interesting, love the videos and keep on keeping on!
However, what about S-1 Fire Hawk? These were really successful and powerful heavy tanks. And they were not based on Saber-class tank series.
High Templar(Starcraft) vs Jedi/Sith
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Raynor's Raiders(Starcraft) vs Resistance
Terran Dominion(Starcraft) vs Galactic Republic/New Republic
Spear of Adun(Starcraft) vs Snoke’s Mega Star Destroyer
Protoss(Starcraft) vs Covenant
Zerg (Starcraft) vs Empire
Protoss(Starcraft) vs CIS
United Koprulu Sector(Starcraft) vs United Star Wars Galaxy
88th try. I WILL NEVER GIVE UP!
I think the AAT, and maybe the Sabre, could serve as good basis for a cheap ground vehicle, being able to be modified for your needs with minimal additions, like changing the turret to fit a lighter variant of a massdriver, as mounted on the AT-TE, or an assault gun variant, with an extended back section, and a forward mounted heavy cannon, to bust open fortifications or large formation, and two rear and sides covering independent turrets to fend of infantry and light vehicles.
2 viscount stardefenders vs the supremacy
Darth Revan one viscount makes a suicide lightspeed jump and destroys the Supremacy
Sheev Palpatine ouch. Tlj really ruined space battles in star wars because now you can just say “suicide jump to lightspeed ecks dee”
Hyperspace suicide runs aside, from what I'm aware the Supremacy is primary a command center and mobile shipyard/manufacturing area, while the Viscount was designed specifically to counter other star dreadnoughts like the Executor-class. Shittons of turbolasers, ion cannons, armor, and Mon Cal shielding. So just one Viscount would probably win against the Supremacy.
RC -1138 yeah that's true
Softis Neleris ouch
What about the tank sort of thing in season 1 of Rebels
That's more of a troop/cargo transport than a tank. It might be faster than the Occupier Tank Eckhart's went with, but it's weapons are very limited. The Empire would still probably be in last place with either choice.
I really love the AAT. As a military enthusiast and historian (in training) what always annoyed me was the use of the casemate style of vehicle (no turret). Not only does this create blind spots on over 75% of the vehicle but it makes it almost useless in urban combat. The amount of weapons is useless if they can only be used to engage one target at a time. What you really want is to place the weapons in such a way that they can engage multiple targets at different angles at once.
Also, it is very possible that the AAT's anti personnel guns can swivel 360 degrees and fire on targets to the rear.
Another thing that annoys me is that they do not make use of remote control turrets like we have today. You don't need someone sitting outside the tank when you could simply rig up a remote firing system to the gun.
I just thought of this, the AAT's shell launchers can't be aimed independently right? But the shells can still be fired in an arc if the entire tank is angled upward, which it can do because it hovers.
Eckhartladder, why didn't you use the 2-M hover tank for imperial forces? They are kinda good and rocket resistant.
The Empire has two horses in that race
well, the Republic TX-130 is nice and all, but what about the droid attack in the Wookies?
As a Republic lover, I am putting Republic Hover Tank on the first spot. The design looks neat. It's small but quite fast and it has got two powerful cannons. Sure, the armour is not strong but I still love it. AAT is good too but what I don't like on it is that the turrent can't go down fully. Sure, it can take out starfighters but ground forces, not much. At least in the close encounter.